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Speaker 2: Yes, it is a fun, fun by product of living

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Speaker 2: Not often. It seems like it happens whenever I'm trying

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Speaker 2: but I don't like taking Tenth Street, because then you

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Speaker 3: I run into the hospital congestion traffic in front of

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Speaker 1: That's what that's my work around.

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Speaker 1: Well, you found out that it's going to last a

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Speaker 1: the rotten thing.

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Speaker 2: We need to grill him up.

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Speaker 1: That is Ethan Hatcher who's filling in today. My name

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Speaker 1: is Kasey Daniels.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about what's going on with Nancy Guthrie.

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Speaker 3: Of course, she's the eighty four year old mother of

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Speaker 1: So at this point, what are.

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Speaker 3: We thinking, because it's been since Saturday, Saturday night she disappeared.

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Speaker 1: Can I give my honest thoughts here is that it's

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be ghoulish, and we're certainly, you know,

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Speaker 2: a Lindbergh Baby situation.

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Speaker 1: And what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: The Lindberg Baby, of course, one of the most famous

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Speaker 2: the infant was slain not long after he was kidnapped.

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Speaker 2: The ransom was delivered, but the child was not returned.

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Speaker 2: I suspect a similar outcome here. If Nancy was allowed

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Speaker 2: identify the perpetrators. And there is an incredible likelihood that

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Speaker 2: this is an individual, if not directly related, then somehow

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Speaker 2: the case with crimes of this nature, It is somebody

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Speaker 2: for them not to release her back to the family. Now, obviously,

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Speaker 3: The FBI assisting in the case, and they have offered

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Speaker 3: a fifty thousand dollars reward for credible information. Multiple ransom

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Speaker 3: notes had been reported by media outlets, and authorities say

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Speaker 3: they are investigating them all. One impostor was in fact

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Speaker 1: Somebody faking Yeah a.

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Speaker 2: R What kind of scumbag do you have to be.

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Speaker 1: Right to take advantace trying cash in on the situation?

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Speaker 3: So, here is a special agent with the FBI talking

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Speaker 3: The As far as we know, I think three ransom

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Speaker 5: Are they all different?

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Speaker 2: Who think there's different authors?

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Speaker 6: Behind all of them.

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Speaker 5: Or so, the one that went to the media is

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Speaker 5: the one. We are currently investigating and working on. The

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just low someone trying to cash in.

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Speaker 2: hold an individual for ransom. Aren't we past this at

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Speaker 2: the stage in society? I guess, I guess not. Well.

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Speaker 3: Fortunately, what you don't want to see happen is more

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Speaker 1: This is taking place more often is it just me.

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Speaker 2: Or just fifty thousand dollars seem like a low threshold

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Speaker 3: For a tip, I don't think it's low. For the

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Speaker 3: it's interesting. People are saying, well, Savannah Guthrie's got lots

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Speaker 1: They sent these ransom notes, but there's.

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Speaker 3: No way for them to go back and forth, which

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Speaker 2: You've got to assume that the FBI is at this

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Speaker 3: So Guthrie has stepped away from her NBC duties, including

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Speaker 3: but the kidnappers in their minds, if they were taking

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Speaker 2: Bad mobility, Which is another reason why I say that

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Speaker 3: And the other part of it that I find interesting

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Speaker 1: All of it it seems to be evolving.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that it will. The last I had heard,

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Speaker 3: There are ransom messages included specific bitcoin wallet addresses and

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Speaker 1: The second deadline had a more dire warning. So why

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Speaker 2: Well, because they believe that there is a veil of

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Speaker 2: But everything, when it comes to technology leads leaves behind

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Speaker 3: The Save Act would require proof of citizenship to register

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Speaker 2: And you can't say that. See, it used to be

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Speaker 2: So, Leader Schumer.

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Speaker 7: This talk about election security has revived discussions of the Save.

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Speaker 7: Proponents of it say that it's you know, to have ID,

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Speaker 2: There's a new Pew Research poll that ninety five.

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Speaker 2: Like this idea. So why do you not.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So voter ID doesn't prevent people from voting, It

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Speaker 1: That's the whole point of it.

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Speaker 2: He has to use rhetorical language like calling it Jim

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Speaker 1: That's the key word there.

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Speaker 2: We go are being discriminated against, or being able to,

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Speaker 3: So you've got Senator Ted Cruz and he came out

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Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WYBZ.

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Speaker 2: Of course he did old glory hound duke of spending Berg.

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Speaker 3: Well, in regards in regards to Todd Young, just really

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. If you actually want to accomplish something

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Speaker 1: It's very much a me too.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I think that is an acceptable

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what the longest record for a single

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Speaker 2: of the Senate. Well, hey, you make the work for it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's it exactly, he said.

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Speaker 8: Senator Cruz, how confident are you that we can get

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Speaker 6: Look, I very much hope so I can tell you

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Speaker 2: And that's the case I'm trying to make to my college.

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Speaker 8: Well, we appreciate that. Why do you think it's so

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Speaker 6: Look, I will say that the conference is discussing it actively,

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: So, no more silent votes.

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Speaker 3: Make them stand there, make them read the bill, make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that that's part of the process. The Senate

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Speaker 2: And look, if you want to stall the process, if

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Speaker 3: So you've got the Vice President of the United States

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Speaker 1: Election integrity here at Yes, there's a bill.

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Speaker 9: Right, the Save Act.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the Save Act. No, what's going to happen

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Speaker 10: Well, we're working very hard right now to get the

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Speaker 10: The House would approve it to. Now, that would require

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Speaker 10: I think some Republican Senators who maybe they're a little

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Speaker 10: We want the sovereignty to be with the people who

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Speaker 2: They'll say, well, if you look at this.

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Speaker 10: fundamentally the Democrats argument. By the way, it's like an

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Speaker 10: eighty five to fifteen issue. Most Democrats want voter ID

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Speaker 10: because they want to protect their own.

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Speaker 2: Vote elected leader.

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Speaker 10: Elected leaders don't because they know that the more control

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Speaker 10: they give to the people who are counting the ballots

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Speaker 10: as opposed to those who are casting the ballots, the

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Speaker 10: more control they will have.

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Speaker 1: Because this is.

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Speaker 3: So valid ID required in democracy. I don't understand why

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Speaker 3: anybody would be against this.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's a it's a very simple issue.

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Speaker 2: I think the Vice president is correct when it's one

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Speaker 2: of those eighty twenty issues or in his case, e

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Speaker 2: eighty five fifteen.

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Speaker 3: We're popular than legalizing marijuana here in Indiana, and that's

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Speaker 3: pretty popular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. However, he was one of those that's dancing

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Speaker 2: around the idea of the nuclear option and making bills

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Speaker 2: pass through a simple majority and trying to downplay defenders

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Speaker 2: of Senate procedures being married to you know, these byzantine

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Speaker 2: old ideas, and that is the wrong approach in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I think the procedure and safeguarding procedure is the strength

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Speaker 2: of our constitutional form of government, and the more you

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Speaker 2: try to tinker with that the further away you go

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Speaker 2: from the intention and design of our government at its founding.

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Speaker 2: This was something that we used to criticize the Barack

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Speaker 2: Obama administration for when he would refer to the car Institution. Oh, well,

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Speaker 2: the Constitution is not sacro saying it is a living document.

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Speaker 2: You can change and tailor it to your needs at

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Speaker 2: any given time. And you know, it's a good impression,

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Speaker 2: by the way, thank you, It's one of my best impressions.

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Speaker 2: But when you were tinkering with the Constitution, when you

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Speaker 2: were tinkering with that structure, you were taking as further

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Speaker 2: away from the country as it was founded. And look again,

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Speaker 2: the Senate was designed to be a deliberative body, and

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Speaker 2: so if you take this nuclear option, you are ultimately

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Speaker 2: going to create a situation whereby the system can be

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Speaker 2: weaponized against Republicans and ultimately weaponized against the American people. Correct.

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Speaker 2: If you take those safeguards away, take away the safety rail.

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Speaker 2: And that's why the Senate was designed to be a

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Speaker 2: deliberative body.

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Speaker 3: If you do it to somebody else, guess what, when

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Speaker 3: they're in power, they can do it to you.

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Speaker 2: Bingo. That's how that works.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got sen A majority leader John Thune.

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Speaker 3: He said yesterday that demands made by Democrats for new

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Speaker 3: restrictions on federal immigration officer are unrealistic, and he warned

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Speaker 3: that there could be another partial shutdown next week if

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Speaker 3: they don't work with Republicans and the White House.

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Speaker 1: So here we go again. They're going to go back at.

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Speaker 3: This discussion budgetary issues over ice.

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Speaker 2: And that's the problem how the budget and funding the

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Speaker 2: government has been used, especially in the last several years,

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Speaker 2: where they are almost incentivized to create this artificial crisis

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Speaker 2: by not continuing to do the basic work of funding

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Speaker 2: our government. And I would be highly supportive of a

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Speaker 2: constitutional amendment like we have here in the state of

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Speaker 2: Indiana that requires legislators to put forth a budget. We

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Speaker 2: need to get this over with. It should not be

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Speaker 2: this complicated to simply fund the mechanisms of the government

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Speaker 2: and not funding the government should not be weaponized because

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Speaker 2: it's you ever notice they never suffer. It's not the

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Speaker 2: elites who suffer. It's not the lawmakers or the bureaucrats

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Speaker 2: who ultimately suffer. The American people who suffer.

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Speaker 3: Because I noticed that Ethan, Hello, Yes, So the current

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Speaker 3: DHS funding It's said to expire around February thirteenth through

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Speaker 3: the fourteenth, and that raises the prospect that the agencies

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Speaker 3: could lapse without new appropriations. The shutdown could affect TSA

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Speaker 3: airport screening, also FEMA and Homeland Security functions.

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Speaker 1: If not resolved.

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Speaker 3: But just two days ago, Donald Trump, when he was

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Speaker 3: interviewed by NBC, he was talking about this and he

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Speaker 3: was asked, which cities are next?

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Speaker 9: Which cities are you headed to next? We have five

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Speaker 9: cities that were looking at very strongly, but we want

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Speaker 9: to be invited. We will sometimes call the governors.

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Speaker 2: Like Chicago, Philadelphia.

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Speaker 9: We could straighten out the crime in Chicago. We've already

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Speaker 9: brought it down twenty five percent just by being there.

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Speaker 9: We could have Chicago be a safe city, just like

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Speaker 9: DC is a safe city, just like all of these

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Speaker 9: places that we've gone to and I look for. You know,

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Speaker 9: I didn't campaign in that. I campaigned on law and order,

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Speaker 9: but I didn't think I'd be going into individual cities

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Speaker 9: and making him say anything else.

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Speaker 2: You can tell us about the five cities.

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Speaker 6: The five cities, so Americans are ready to be announcing

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Speaker 6: them very quickly, waiting announcing them that doesn't sound like

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Speaker 6: a great idea.

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Speaker 1: He's waiting to be invited.

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Speaker 3: Keep in mind, they're talking about shutting down funding and

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Speaker 3: yet Donald Trump is plowing forward.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think he's having to back down a little

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Speaker 2: bit going by how the ICE has acted in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's not always been easy easy sailing.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think the interaction with Alex pretty

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Speaker 2: does merit some investigation because he was a lawful carrier

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Speaker 2: of a firearm and he is allowed to exercise his

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Speaker 2: Second Amendment Second Amendment rights that are afforded in the Constitution.

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Speaker 2: Unless there was some direct evidence that he was proposing

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Speaker 2: a threat to officers, then I'm not sure in that

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Speaker 2: case that deadly forths was was necessary. And then look

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Speaker 2: at the enormous political fallout that we have had from

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Speaker 2: that interaction, because it's ginned up a lot of animosity

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Speaker 2: to these ICE law enforcement officers that I think shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be there if their use of force was more judiciously exercised.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Donald Trump actually came out and he said that

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Speaker 3: they're going to need.

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Speaker 1: A softer touch because of that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're listening to ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: I like what you called it fluff stuff, something a

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Speaker 1: little lighter.

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Speaker 2: That's what segment four is good for.

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Speaker 3: Doberman pincher named Penny was crowned vestin show at the

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fiftieth annual Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show,

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Speaker 3: took place in Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 1: Penny beat more.

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Speaker 3: Than two thousand, five hundred dogs two hundred breeds from

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Speaker 3: seventeen different countries.

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Speaker 2: How are we feeling about Doverman's because I kind of

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Speaker 2: have some flashbacks about Dover's back from my Jehovah's Witness

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Speaker 2: days when I used to evangelizing in the door to

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Speaker 2: door ministry. Well, yeah, those things are rotten. They were nasty, mean,

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Speaker 2: And it's not the dogs themselves, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 2: how they're trained and how they're used. But it seems

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Speaker 2: like people who buy Doberman's want to use them as

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Speaker 2: like guard dogs. Dogs guard dogs. Yeah, man, they are mean.

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Speaker 2: You see a Doberman in the door and you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, way.

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Speaker 1: Back up, way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I get nervous around big dogs, regardless of the breed,

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Speaker 3: but especially a dope.

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Speaker 2: You feel that way about like huskies or labs, Not.

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Speaker 3: So much those, but like a German shepherd, sure, a

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Speaker 3: well trained German shepherd. That's why I had a little

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Speaker 3: you know, a little dog, not quite as terrifying looking.

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Speaker 2: I prefer cats overall, but if I were ever to

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Speaker 2: get a dog, I would like I would like a

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Speaker 2: big dog because I feel like big dogs have a

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Speaker 2: lot of personality. You know, you can't go wrong with

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Speaker 2: a lab those friendly get little guys, or a husky.

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Speaker 2: Can't go wrong with a husky.

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Speaker 1: A lot of exercise.

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Speaker 2: Bull Mastiffs, I think are are pretty cool, you know,

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Speaker 2: also intimidating just because of their their sheer size, but

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Speaker 2: usually of a pleasant disposition. Golden Retrievers obviously known for

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Speaker 2: being uh you know, like Fred from Scooby Doo. Of

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Speaker 2: all dogs. Yeah, just good natured, good, good natured guys,

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Speaker 2: just a just a good time.

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Speaker 3: I had a mini Schnauzer. Now you had mentioned that

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Speaker 3: you had five you have five cats.

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Speaker 1: I have five kiddies.

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Speaker 2: I am I am the Crazy cat Man.

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Speaker 1: And the names of them are awesome.

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Speaker 2: I have three boys and two girls. The boys are Kuppa, Joe,

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Speaker 2: Mocha and French Roast, and the girls are Decaf and

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Speaker 2: black Bean. And I have been chosen many times over

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Speaker 2: my life by the cat distribution system. You've been picked, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I have been picked like Kuppa Joe. He just showed

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Speaker 2: up on the front porch one day. I opened the

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Speaker 2: door and he just walked in and said, I live

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Speaker 2: here now, I live here. Now, you have no choice

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Speaker 2: about this. That's that's just what's what's happening, uh, black bean.

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Speaker 2: She came into my life actually a pretty rough time.

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Speaker 2: My kitty, Pumpkin Spice had traded passed away very tragically.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get into the circumstances of what

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Speaker 2: happened there, but he died way too young. And I

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Speaker 2: was coming home from a maintenance call at one of

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Speaker 2: my properties and I see this little black shadow crossing

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Speaker 2: the alleyway and I, you know, get out of the

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Speaker 2: car and I say, here, Katy, Katy, and that cat

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Speaker 2: circled back around and ran up and jumped right up

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Speaker 2: on my shoulder and said.

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Speaker 1: Your mind now, yep, I select you. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Cats are great like that. I I love cats.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three w IBC Good.

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Speaker 11: Morning, get Away.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't seem to be