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Speaker 1: just terrible Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, between the free

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Speaker 1: secondly they're fools. This is not a time for Nevill

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Speaker 1: So I hate that talking point. Just enough of it already.

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Speaker 1: It's a personal thing. Maybe you feel the same way.

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Speaker 3: It was said, millions of people are dead, many many soldiers.

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Speaker 4: You know, last month they lost twenty seven thousand soldiers

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Speaker 4: thing for you. You know, this doesn't affect us. Our

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Speaker 4: country is no longer paying any money. It was a

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Speaker 1: The farmers are gonna get twelve billion dollars. Oh okay,

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Speaker 5: Delighted to announce this afternoon that the United States will

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Speaker 6: They took advantage of us like nobody's ever seen. Our

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't have tariffs. Should be sitting here losing your share.

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Speaker 3: But we're taking in billions. We're really taking in trillions of.

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Speaker 3: And we love our farmers, and.

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Speaker 1: I love our farmers too, But I was told that

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Speaker 1: Now it's going to farmers. I'm not anti farmer. At

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Speaker 1: tariffs are taxes. I'm not a fan. Prices have gone up. Now,

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Speaker 1: And you could call me sinister all you want for

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Speaker 1: I want successful farmers, but tariffs's policy like this non valuable.

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Speaker 7: Today, you ask any working person in the state, do

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Speaker 7: Be again the party to tap into that anger. We

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Speaker 5: We inherited a mess affordability. But you can call it

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Speaker 1: Show me where where my life is better. Show me

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Speaker 1: that happen, and that's where I get my insurance from.

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Speaker 1: And if I understand it right, I'm still reviewing. My

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Speaker 1: premium is up thirty twenty percent. So let me see

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Speaker 1: if I can this right. Let me see if there's

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Speaker 1: a calculator for this percentage spread? Right? Maybe, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: that's the way to look at it. Rate spread calculator.

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Speaker 1: There's a calculator for everything, for absolutely everything. So if

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Speaker 1: I you know, when I take a look at this,

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Speaker 1: I start at one place and I get to another place,

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Speaker 1: it's like, all right, that's thirty percent. I just do

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Speaker 1: basic math. That's what people are experiencing. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there is a calculator for everything. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: do the math yourself. People have already figured it out.

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Speaker 1: Just plug in the numbers. But if you want to

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Speaker 1: do the math, I say, good on you. Remember algebra

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Speaker 1: was actually important and people are experiencing this all over

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Speaker 1: the country. And the increase in percentage sounds large. But

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Speaker 1: let's say you say an increase could be three hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars a month, and you're like, yeah, it's just three

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month. That's where you immediately lose people.

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Speaker 1: You can't tell somebody it's just three hundred dollars a month.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with everybody? It isn't just three hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: a month. It's there three hundred dollars a month, and

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Speaker 1: they're three hundred dollars a month now can't be spent

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Speaker 1: on other things. There is a boss yat that which

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Speaker 1: is seen and that which is not seen Frederick Bostiat.

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Speaker 1: If you go to bossiacht dot Org, it's it's it's fantastic,

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Speaker 1: which you know, at the broken window and all of

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Speaker 1: these things. And so the concept of that which is

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Speaker 1: seen and that which is not seen is the idea

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Speaker 1: of saying, and it's done in a parable there's a

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Speaker 1: I may have explained this before, but some people are

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Speaker 1: new the show and welcome I'm glad you're here. There's

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Speaker 1: a ShopKeep he's got a I don't know, he's got

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Speaker 1: a shop. And he's there on the on the town

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Speaker 1: square and he's got a shop. And some kids are

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Speaker 1: outside playing ball and someone hits the ball and boom,

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Speaker 1: goes to the window, breaks the window. The ShopKeep is

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Speaker 1: infuriated and he comes out screaming and yelling and look

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Speaker 1: at what you've done. My gosh, Now I have to

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Speaker 1: get this repaired. Now. People come to the ShopKeep and

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Speaker 1: they say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's not be so

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Speaker 1: angry with these children. I mean, yes, they broke your window.

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Speaker 1: But now the window guy, he's got business. Thank goodness.

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Speaker 1: Look at what he's done. They've done. Now this guy

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Speaker 1: has business. Now, you know as well as I do

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Speaker 1: that that's a criminally insane thought, because if breaking windows

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Speaker 1: led to economic viability, well, then Antifa would be the

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Speaker 1: greatest jobs program in the history of America. But it

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Speaker 1: didn't create jobs in Minneapolis, or in Seattle, or in

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Speaker 1: Chicago or anyplace else where these ruinous, violent bastards were.

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Speaker 1: So that's not what happens. What is seen, as Basciott explains,

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Speaker 1: is the money that now goes into the hands of

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Speaker 1: this other business owner to replace the window. What is

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Speaker 1: unseen is the where that money could have gone. What

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Speaker 1: is unseen is all the other things that could have

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Speaker 1: been done because that window was broken. If the window

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Speaker 1: wasn't broken, the shop keep still has the money in

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Speaker 1: his pocket, and he could use it for marketing. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he could have hired somebody, Maybe he could have bought

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Speaker 1: a new piece of equipment, maybe gone on vacation. The

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Speaker 1: unseen is a really, really important part of a conversation,

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Speaker 1: and it's the one that people refuse to have because

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Speaker 1: they're so busy trying to convince or embarrass or shame

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Speaker 1: to get their point across, to get their thing across,

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Speaker 1: to get their so called value systems across, that they

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Speaker 1: don't recognize how other things are harmed and hurt. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just three hundred dollars. It isn't just three hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about this in terms of an insurance

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Speaker 1: premium increase, which the vast majority of us would say

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Speaker 1: that's nuts. I'm not getting three hundred dollars a month

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Speaker 1: more worth of care, right, But we can apply it

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Speaker 1: to any cost structure where you'll see often people on

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Speaker 1: the political lips say, oh, it's just three hundred dollars, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you can afford it. They're always going after the rich,

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Speaker 1: going after the oh you can afford crowd, which is

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Speaker 1: a lower and lower number all the time. But they

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Speaker 1: don't see and they refuse to recognize what is unseen,

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Speaker 1: what that money could have been used for and if

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Speaker 1: anything else, regardless of what it's used for. The overarching

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Speaker 1: is it's all about you. You're the one who got

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Speaker 1: to decide when they charge a tax, when it premium

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Speaker 1: gets increased, These things that you have to have in life,

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Speaker 1: in society, you lose your choices. And when you lose

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Speaker 1: your choices, you know what that leads to anger. That's reality.

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Speaker 1: Our argument here has been going out to dinner. My

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Speaker 1: theory is, and I say this about men. I do

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Speaker 1: not know if working women have this theory or not.

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Speaker 1: I believe this about working men, and I welcome the

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Speaker 1: feedback here, agree, disagree, Maybe you've got an add on

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Speaker 1: to it, etc. When you cannot, as a man, as

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Speaker 1: a father, as a husband, take your family out to

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Speaker 1: dinner on a Friday night after a long week, I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about the most expensive place in town. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about Texas Roadhouse. There was I have nothing against

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Speaker 1: Texas Roadhouse. My father, rest his soul, loved Texas Roadhouse.

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Speaker 1: In his wallet after his passing was a gift card

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Speaker 1: to Texas Roadhouse. I still have it somewhere. It's somewhere

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Speaker 1: on my desk right now. There was a while there

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Speaker 1: when you took a look at the economics and you

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Speaker 1: realize that quick serve was falling off, right. Quick serve

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Speaker 1: restaurants were falling off because the prices have gone up

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Speaker 1: so much that they said, well, if I take my

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Speaker 1: family of four too, I'll say Chipotle, just to name

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Speaker 1: a place not engaging in any type of accusatory language

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Speaker 1: towards them. And the family of four and everyone got

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Speaker 1: a burrito, and everybody got a drink, and we got

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Speaker 1: some extra guacamole, and that was, you know, forty five

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Speaker 1: fifty bucks. Well, why don't we just go to Texas

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Speaker 1: Roadhouse and I can have a steak. Well, it's not

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Speaker 1: a steak steak, no, I agree, but it is an

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Speaker 1: eight ounce rabbi And there's gonna be roles, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have a salad, and someone's gonna fill my drink

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Speaker 1: for me. I don't have to go get up and

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Speaker 1: get my own refill. And you know when I get

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Speaker 1: to sit down and my wife gets to sit down,

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Speaker 1: and I feel human. And so they actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: shifted up a little bit because they saw the quick

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Speaker 1: service not having a value. Well, if the economics becomes

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Speaker 1: so that the pricing is so great and the money,

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Speaker 1: the three hundred dollars that we've been talking about is taken,

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Speaker 1: that that guy after that week can't afford to take

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Speaker 1: his family afford out to dinner, and just feel like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's all worth it. Here's a bit of normal. Here's

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Speaker 1: how I was able to treat my family. Here's how

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Speaker 1: I was able to treat myself. See, we're living the

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Speaker 1: American dream. We are getting somewhere. I can't afford this.

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Speaker 1: I can't afford that. I can't afford to take my

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Speaker 1: family out for a acceptable stake a burger? What am

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Speaker 1: I working this hard for? You know what? That leads

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Speaker 1: to anger again. I'll start, I'll continue now where I started.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I want is angry democrats. Because when

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Speaker 1: democrats get angry, people get killed and they get violent.

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Speaker 1: Cities burn. But let's all get with the program when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the anger that people are really experiencing,

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Speaker 1: really feeling, when it comes to costs, and yes, four

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Speaker 1: years of Biden disaster and Democrats are gonna tell me, well,

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Speaker 1: this is all Trump's fault. Honey, cut that out. But

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Speaker 1: I will say this on a Part two conversation about tariffs.

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Speaker 1: They don't help, at least they haven't helped yet. I'm

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. No, I cannot

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Speaker 1: prove it. Yes, I absolutely believe that Ilhan Omar, the

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Speaker 1: congress Roman from Minnesota one thousand percent married her brother

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Speaker 1: to allow him to stay in the country and get

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Speaker 1: him paperwork. I absolutely believe it. I always have, even

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Speaker 1: before the Daily Mail put out the story, the exclusive

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Speaker 1: that a Somali leader is saying, indeed, you bet she

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Speaker 1: married her brother. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to

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Speaker 1: be with you. I don't have the concrete proof. I

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Speaker 1: simply said I believe it. I make no accusation. I

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Speaker 1: allow any investigation to go forward. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: there should be an investigation. Ilhan o Mar certainly not

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Speaker 1: with America's best interest at heart. I don't believe she

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Speaker 1: is somebody who believes in her oath, and I want

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Speaker 1: her investigated in this connection to the Somali nationals and

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Speaker 1: the others who were involved in the fraud in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: which could have cost billions of dollars. Saying, oh, we're

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Speaker 1: feeding children during COVID. How many are you feeding? Eighteen

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Speaker 1: thousand a day? That's impossible. You give us the money

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Speaker 1: for eighteen thousand a day, or we'll call you racists.

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Speaker 1: Here's your check. Please don't call us racist. We love you.

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Speaker 1: We can't find your country on a map, but we

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Speaker 1: love you. That's the Minnesota government. I was doing the

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Speaker 1: impression of right there. It was pretty accurate. The story

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Speaker 1: is she was married, then got divorced, and then married

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Speaker 1: on the paper her brother to make sure he had

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Speaker 1: the papers to stay in the United States. Now do

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Speaker 1: you go to jail for that? I'm pretty sure you

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Speaker 1: go jail for that. Do you get thrown out of

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Speaker 1: Congress for that? Absolutely should be thrown out of Congress

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Speaker 1: for that. Do I have the proof? No, I don't

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Speaker 1: have the proof. Do I believe in an investigation? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Do I believe the story just as a matter of

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Speaker 1: anecdotal ten thousand percent, because there is nothing about ilhan

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Speaker 1: Omar that I have seen that shows me she is

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Speaker 1: somebody of high standards. I don't even see that she

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Speaker 1: likes them. Find everything at Tony Katts dot com. Tomorrow, everyone,

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Speaker 1: take care,