1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: I have never ever asked anyone to agree with my politics. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Certainly I've never forced it. I may have asked it, 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: but it's okay. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: If you disagree with me, you gotta just disagree rationally. 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Can't disagree with emotion. You can't say to me if 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: I bring up a subject. But what about the children? 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's just that's problem, that's noise. You're dismissed. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: It's a silly thing to say. Tony Katz, Tony kats today. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: Good to be here, good to be with you. 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: What's the matter? You don't want clean air and clean water? 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: You should not be allowed to operate heavy machinery. It's 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: that kind of ridiculousness I want no part of. So 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: this about James Carvill is not about whether you agree 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: with me politically. This is a conversation about being a 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: political observer. Does this make sense to you? Is this 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: a rational cogent argument? James Carvell is the longtime Democratic strategist. 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: James Carvill became, if you will, famous to extend amongst 19 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: political circle's household name. Maybe it was earlier than Bill Clinton, 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say it was Bill Clinton. 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: And it's the economy stupid. 22 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: What was the messaging, what was the targeting, what was 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: the focus? 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: It's the economy. 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: It's always the economy, that's all. 26 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: So that's what he focused on. 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: And James Carvill, who is married to a Republican strategist, 28 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: which is a very weird relationship, but hey, who am 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: I to judge. Go live your lives and go be happy. 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: He has been this voice for leftism and he every 31 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: now and again will engage a rational argument and that 32 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: will be countered by absolute madness trying to attract the 33 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: most liberal elements to his side. 34 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: He is the guy. 35 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: Who has said things like listen, defund the police is ridiculous, 36 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: and then has also said Trump has syphilis. No, I 37 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: cannot make that up. I'm not making it up. I 38 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: would have no way of making it up. 39 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: So he is. It's what he said. And and yeah, I. 40 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: Do not know if if if James Carvell has symphilist 41 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: or not. 42 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor. 43 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: I have looked at him, though, I have seen his face, 44 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: and whatever that disease. 45 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: Is, I'm just glad I don't have it. 46 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: What He can just say things and no one else 47 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: can say things. 48 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, maybe be nicer. James, that's it. 49 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: James Carvill is on his podcast and he is saying 50 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: that in order to win the midterms, there are two 51 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: subjects that have to be avoided. And he starts by 52 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: saying that we are not as disciplined as they are. 53 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: And I think that they know their crap is unpopular, 54 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: so they got to be more disciplined and how they 55 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: portray things. I would take huge umbrage with that statement 56 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: from Carvel, the idea that Republicans are what's the word 57 00:03:49,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking for, disciplined? Oh my gosh, that is that 58 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: is that is a compliment. But that's also not true. 59 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a false narrative right there. If he 60 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: really believes that exactly how messed up is the Democratic 61 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Party because we often discuss when it comes to being elected, 62 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: they are in lockstep and a goose step with each other. 63 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: There is no variation at all Republicans. 64 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: You put five Republicans in a room, they can't figure 65 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: out where to go to lunch, and four of. 66 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: Them are running for president. That is such a good joke, 67 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: how Darry honest? Really? Nothing, my gosh, but their crap 68 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: is so unpopular. 69 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I I would ask what you're referring to what is unpopular. 70 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: The capture Majuro is not unpopular. The security of the 71 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: border is not unpopular. The fact that there is no 72 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: UH plan to get rid of Obamacare. Well, that's what 73 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: they just put out right, the Great Healthcare Plan. 74 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: I think that's what they're calling it. I haven't I haven't. 75 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: Dug in yet, I haven't read yet the full thing. 76 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: But they're now talking on the political right about healthcare, 77 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: about providing better, about engaging in a lot of ways. 78 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I'll share with you some of the things that were 79 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: set at around table today about rural healthcare. Trump is 80 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: in lowering the drug prescription drug costs if you want 81 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: to take an ozembic type drug, and certainly other things 82 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: that are going to happen. I don't even like the 83 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: way he's doing it, but you can't deny that he's 84 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: doing it, that he's engaged in this conversation about healthcare. 85 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: So I don't know what he says is unpopular. 86 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Ice no, no, no, no, no no no no no 87 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: no no no no no no. 88 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: That is not true. 89 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Although I could see America saying, man, couldn't this go easier? 90 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: Couldn't this be more focused? Like, I couldn't see that 91 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: that's different than unpopular. And he says the two subjects 92 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: that we have to stop talking about. The Democrats, he says, 93 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: have to stop talking about is they have to stop 94 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: talking about defunding law enforcement agencies. And they have to 95 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: stop talking about transgender athletes competing in women's sports. 96 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: James, are you stupid you think, James? 97 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy, Jimbo, Jimboberino, Jim Can I call you, Jim James? 98 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: You think you can. 99 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: Get the Democratic Party to stop talking about defui law enforcement. 100 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: There is a whole new crop. 101 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Of Democrats that are talking about defunding ICE right now. 102 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: They are aggressively discussing the ideas that they should be 103 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: shutting down ICE, defunding this this was just last week. 104 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: Funding. If it doesn't restrain ICE. 105 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: I think Democrats need to use every tool that we have, 106 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: including funding mechanisms, to rein in what's happening now with 107 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: ice across this country. 108 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: That was last week. Jimbo, you can't get them to 109 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: stop talking about this. This is the policy. 110 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Defunding the police, getting rid of police is the policy 111 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: of the progressive nay communist left that your party has become. 112 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: You may not like it, you may. 113 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Know it's political suicide, but no one's listening to you, 114 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Boo. 115 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: They left you behind. 116 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: You're the old man now, Jim, and you aren't staying current. 117 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: You aren't staying with it. This is what they want. 118 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: And you think hearing these cases in front of the 119 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: Supreme Court is going to take this off the table. 120 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: He actually said those words. I said, what the hell 121 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: is wrong with this guy? He actually said right here. 122 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: But I think the Supreme Court is probably going to 123 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: rule on this transathlete issue, which will probably take it 124 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: off the table a little bit more than it was. No, 125 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: that's just the opposite of what's going to happen. They 126 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: just heard the cases this week regarding Idaho and West Virginia, 127 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: and so we're clear the left got walloped. The left 128 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: got their butts handed to him. They got ripped apart. 129 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: They did. 130 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: The lawyers looked for. The lawyers wouldn't bring a definition 131 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: of what a woman is. They refused to define it. 132 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: But they think a man can be a woman and 133 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: play in women's sports. They won't define what a woman is. 134 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: But the other part they want. They got ripped asunder 135 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: the solicitor General from West Virginia in a spectacular statement 136 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: of two minutes and forty seven seconds. 137 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: I believe that I heard it said. 138 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: If this is the case that men could say they're women, 139 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: then we are not in a society that thinks that 140 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: we have to separate out men from women. And if 141 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: that's the case, what's the point of Title nine? Title 142 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: nine exists to create a space for women in sports. 143 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm glad some other things it was built for that purpose. 144 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: What this case is. 145 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Saying is is that there are no women. 146 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: There's no need for women. 147 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: This is my paraphrase, of course, and therefore there's no 148 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: need for Title nine. 149 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: Is this what the court wants to rule on? 150 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: When this case comes to fruition and the decision comes 151 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: out in the summer sometimes I don't know if it 152 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: be June or July, and. 153 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: The vote is seven to two, I think Kagan. 154 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: Could go, but Sotomayor and Katanji Brown Jackson they'll stay, 155 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: and Katanji Brown Jackson will write some absolutely maddening descent 156 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: that won't make any sense whatsoever. 157 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: The subject's gonna come back in full. 158 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: Look what Trump's Supreme Court has done. Look how Trump's 159 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court is trying to destroy children and glee children 160 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: to suicide. Look at how Trump's Supreme Court doesn't recognize 161 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: these people are people and human beings. If you are 162 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: understanding of what Marxism wants to do and the eradication 163 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: of norms, you don't give this up, You triple down. 164 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the problem, James. You don't understand what's your 165 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: party is all about. What your party's all about. You 166 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: don't understand what your party is doing. You don't understand 167 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: what the plan is. 168 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: Man. You want to win. They want to destroy the country. 169 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: Do you not get it? Do you really not get 170 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: that that's the case. How many more times and in 171 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: how many more ways do they have to show you. 172 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: They don't want police on the streets, They want lawlessness. 173 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: They attack ice because they want illegal immigrants to remain, 174 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: and they want women to be erased. They want to 175 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: be able to say there are no standards and allow 176 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Western civilisation to fall. 177 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: You're not gonna stop talking about these two things. This 178 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: is who they are. This is Tony Katster today.