1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: You were listening to the Best of the Fan Morning 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: the Fan, Good Morning. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Yes, we are now creeping up on game number one 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: in the National Football League for the Indianapolis Colts in 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: the year of twenty twenty five. They'll be taken on 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins and final I don't know. I never 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: want to say final fifty three man roster, but after 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: acquisitions and waivers and practice squad placements, it feels like 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: this is the group you have right now. And yesterday, 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Chris balladers he does every year after that takes place 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: met with the media and as you might have guessed, 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: almost all the conversation Kevin Bawen was about the quarterback situation. 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: Why Daniel Jones as a starter? Does this mean you've 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: given up on Anthony Richardson? What's the plan? How's this 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: look moving forward? What about this? What about that? And 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: so I don't know that anything. I don't know that 18 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: the conversation we had before yesterday was advanced any further 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: than it was when the day started, was it. 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably a good way to put it. And 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: I think we've just reached a point in time where 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, again, on field answers are gonna have to 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: happen for anybody's real thoughts to change wholeheartedly about whether 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: the cultar quarterback wise or you know, certainly how they 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: feel about Chris Ballard things like that. And again, maybe 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna take more than just one year of results 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: for that to happen. That remains to be seen. But yeah, 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: I I wanted to make sure that. Like when we 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: discussed the ballot press conference on yesterday's show, I didn't 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: think we dove real deep into it. Maybe I had 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: a general apathy towards it, but I just I wasn't 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: expecting much from him. And I think when you heard 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: the answers, it's you you get why I wasn't expecting much. 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: And again I'm gonna go back to the combine here 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: in two specific questions, why are you getting the ninth year? Okay? 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: His answer to that was more or less Jim Mersey 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: agreed to be patient with me, like we're gonna Rea 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: said in twenty twenty three, we're gonna draft Richardson, We're. 39 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: Gonna be or I told you Orsay said, fix this right. 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: But like agreeing to patients, like agreeing to a hard 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: reset up. Hey, first year head coach, you know, biggest 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: quarterback project whatever in the history of the NFL boom. 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: That's gonna mean you're gonna have a longer leash. Like 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: that was said, It wasn't something on the resume for 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: the reason why he was getting a ninth year. And 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: then again when you ask him, you know, what, do 47 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: you feel like your greatest accomplishment here is heading to 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: the ninth year. You know, you gotta go back to 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. You gotta go back to twenty twenty of 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: a playoff win or get into the playoffs in twenty twenty. Well, 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, this is twenty twenty five, and in the 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: NFL world, it's a long long time. So maybe we're 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: just prisoners of the moment and reacting to yesterday. But 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: I think we have generally seen this tone from Ballard, 55 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 1: definitely throughout twenty twenty five, and I would argue even 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: dating back to the last couple of press conferences twenty 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: twenty four or twenty twenty three, just kind of the 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: reality of where things are at with his state and 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: the franchise and the franchise as a whole. 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: What did you think when he said, you know, guys, 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: there are fifty one other players on the roster. 62 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: My initial thought was thinking number one, I understand where 63 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: you're coming from, because if I was in his shoes, 64 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: I'd be thinking the same thing. But then number two, 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: as I wrote my piece for the Athletic, the other 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 4: fifty one don't matter as much as those two. 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: It's just as simple as that. So I did get 68 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: a kick out of that. 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: And the one thing I will say, because I hear 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: fans often tell me this on social media and occasionally 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: in real life, I run into him like, man, you're 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: like you're so hard on ballad or man, he really 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: pushed back on you or Kevin or gave Stephen hold 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: of the business, And why is he so defensive? Look, man, 75 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: when you're sitting up there for thirty minutes taking a 76 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: beating from the local media, personally, I don't care if 77 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: you throw a few jabs back. I mean that's the 78 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: nature of the business. And I feel like if you 79 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: can't take some of that as someone who dishes it 80 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: and has dished it, then why are you in that field? 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: So I didn't think that he was super defensive or 82 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: he sat up there and gave us, you know, a 83 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: ton of nothing burgers. I think that, as Kevin said, 84 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: and as you said, Jeff, like, you're at a position 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: now where it's a cyclical or is that the right 86 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 4: word cyclical whatever the word is conversation because the same 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: things can happen a year after year, and you're the 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: same person year after year. So until something changes, what 89 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: else can I ask you? You know, what else can 90 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: really be broached of you when that is the same thing. 91 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the fifty one players comment, I was 92 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: struck by it a bit, and that was if my 93 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: math is correct, and listening back to the press conference, 94 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: I want to say that I was like minute thirteen 95 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: or fourteen, Yeah, about thirteen minutes in and it you know, 96 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: he was ready to move on to a different topic, 97 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: and you go back to the opening press conference, it's 98 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: not about one player in regards to quarterback. Good reference Kevin, 99 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: and if you watch his ten year play out, I 100 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: actually think this might have been not this year's combine, 101 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: but the combine prior. You know, when he sat down 102 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: with us, you know, I asked him, Okay, where why 103 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: don't you feel like your tenure has led to the 104 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: results that you would like and I thought, in a 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: very candid and again accurate manner, he described the constant 106 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: revolving door at quarterback and now you know here he 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: is wanting to move on from that quarterback question. And 108 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: again that was eighteen months ago he said that answer, 109 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: and here you are eighteen months later, and you can 110 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: make the argument the quarterback questions have only continued to 111 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: grow really in that timeframe, and go back to Quentin 112 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: Nelson expressing some frustration in his you know arrival lines 113 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: up just one year after Ballads arrival. So yeah, that 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: made me. I thought it was a very interesting comment. 115 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: I get why he probably wanted to move on at 116 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: that point, but the fluctuation of about the quarterback position 117 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: in his ten year is pretty wild. So yeah, that 118 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: was a line that definitely struck with me. 119 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: It's fan morning show KBJB, Jeff Mark Dyden over there 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: on the ones and two is playing Vanessa Carlton all 121 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: over the place today, which is fine with me. Two 122 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: three nine, ten seventy. The fan text line justin speaks 123 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: for a lot of folks. I mean, all this talk 124 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: and as you said, cyclical, it just goes round and 125 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: round and round. And we talked about maybe diminished attendance 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: up at Grand Park. We've talked about just a lack 127 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: of enthusiasm, the apathy for a lot of fans, and 128 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: I think Justin sums it up when he says, I'm 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: just ready for the daughters to put their stamp on 130 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: the team and push the button for a total reset, 131 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: find your quarterback of the future, rebuild the team. You 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: have a left tackle to start with a total reset. 133 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: I can get behind that. Find yourself as a quarterback. 134 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: You have a left tackle for the future. Clean house. 135 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: Looks if it was just as easy as going out 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: and finding a quarterback. Because even when you have that 137 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: number one overall pick. Look the Panthers a couple of 138 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: years ago, same draft, they're not quite sure they're optimistic 139 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: about Bruce Young after the way he finished last year 140 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: well in a really nice seven game finished last year 141 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: where I think he put up a lot of top 142 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: shelf numbers and came close within the thirty seconds to 143 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: beat in both Philadelphia and Kansas City. But the point 144 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: is is you just don't go find quarterbacks even when 145 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: you have the number one overall pick. It's kind of 146 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty proposition. 147 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: Yes, but I guess my pushback there, Jeff would be 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: when you get a pick of that magnitude in the 149 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: top five and you can choose a quarterback and you miss, 150 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: most people don't get a chance to choose a quarterback again, 151 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: and so that's the stakes of the game you're playing. 152 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: So I understand it's hard and it's not exact science, 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: and even looking back at certain players that were taking 154 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: over the years, you're probably more likely, as you referenced Jeff, 155 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: to miss on that pick. Then it's a hit and 156 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: find you know, a all time great quarterback or really 157 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: just a quarterback that will be very good for your franchise. 158 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: I can't say all time great because that's even rarer, 159 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean that's what you sign up for. 160 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: Though. 161 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: Yep, that's how it goes. But my point is, Kevin, 162 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: there are a lot of people who kind of feel 163 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: that way, like, let's just move on to what's next, 164 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: because this feels like doing the same thing again year 165 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: after year after year. 166 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Correct, it almost feels like going through the motions. 167 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: It's the final year of whatever. Tom Allen and Bloomington, 168 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: it's trying to think of a longer tenured coach because 169 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: Nate Bjorkrn isn't very apples to apples with the Pacers, 170 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: but you know that sort of Hey, we feel like 171 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: we've just got to get to the finish line and 172 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: see what happens here. And that's an awful feeling for 173 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: a fan base. You know, we have Pete Sampson on yesterday, 174 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: and I promise you I'm not trying to make this 175 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: about my fandom, but you know, he referenced or I 176 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: asked him about a story he wrote about how Marcus 177 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: Freeman has turned Notre Dame into a durable national title contender. 178 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: I think ultimately as a fan, Pretdue basketball fans are 179 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: feeling it right now. Help potentially Indiana football fans are 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: about to really feel it for the next handful of years. 181 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: To me, what you want more than anything is for 182 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: the team that you love to have that five to 183 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: seven year cycle where you know, annually we've got a chance. 184 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: We are in position right now to be a team 185 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: that's one of the last one standing. And again you're 186 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: not gonna do it every single year, but the thought is, 187 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: sooner or later, the more quality darts you get to 188 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: throw out the dart board, you're gonna hit bullseye. And obviously, 189 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: if you want to make it a predue basketball reference, 190 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: they got all the way to Monday Night a couple 191 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: of years ago, and they've had great Big Ten runs 192 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: and other great now you know, NCAA tournament runs, and 193 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: certainly for Notre Dame last year they were able to 194 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: get to the final game. Like that is what you want, 195 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: And right now it seems like you're so far away 196 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: from creating that window. 197 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 6: Uh. 198 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: You know, if you want to look at the Manning era, 199 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: think anybody you ask in the Manning era, they won't 200 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: say that six team, the Super Bowl team was their 201 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: best team. They'll point to five, they'll point to O seven, 202 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: they might point to nine. And yet it was that 203 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: team that got it done. But yet, when you give 204 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: yourself a five, six, seven year window, you're able to 205 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: break through. And I think ultimately to get there, you've 206 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: got to find the answer at the most important position 207 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: in sports. 208 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: They have a very high care factor. I was just 209 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: about the readiness and the togetherness. 210 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: Mentioned Nate york I feel it no idea is he 211 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: back with Toronto. For some reason, Portland popped into my head. 212 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: Also inspired by Graham from Avon, He and Mark were 213 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: on exactly the same page there. 214 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I like that. 215 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: So I do want to. I know, Mark pulled a 216 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: bunch of audio last night and I felt bad. I 217 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 4: was sending somewhere sex messages the ex for audio, and 218 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 4: I was like, here, you're getting audio by the and 219 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: I believe you have the question. Uh nah, not really, 220 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 4: that's the job, right, But I do think Kevin had 221 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: the question and correct me if I'm wrong. Kevin, you 222 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: posed it as do you think you all did the 223 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: right homework on Anthony Richardson? And I thought Ballard's response 224 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: was interesting and we can start to get into that. 225 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: But I do want to, you know, play it here 226 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 4: market you got a cued up to sort of react 227 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: to it live on the air. 228 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, we knew, we knew he was wrong, We knew 229 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 7: he was gonna take time. I think everybody knew. Yeah, 230 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 7: I think we knew, and I'm we knew it was 231 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 7: gonna be a little bit of a roller coaster. Absolutely. 232 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, just his history in college and 233 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 7: so that's just part of the growth. No, you gotta 234 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 7: sometimes you got to take a swing. We took a swing, 235 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 7: and look, I'm not ready to say that we missed 236 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 7: because I don't think we have yet. I think Anthony 237 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 7: has a bright future. 238 00:11:53,720 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: I believe that is it with the cults. That's the question, Kevin. 239 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Do you. 240 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: See where he's going or what he was trying to do, 241 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: because in my mind, I understand that he personally might 242 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: believe that, but from an organizational standpoint, I just don't 243 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 4: know again, where you go from here to give him 244 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: an opportunity to be that guy. 245 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know he described it later in the press conference, 246 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: and I'll paraphrase, but you know he says some of 247 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: the effect James of like there's one out there that 248 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: it's worked. Yeah, in reference to Alex Smith. 249 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the why should we believe this possible 250 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 4: question that I threw at him just because. 251 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: And like that little snippet to me, it just describes 252 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: trying to put it into betting terms, just how long 253 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: of a parlay that you're trying to hit here, I 254 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: mean to put it, you know, in some way shape, 255 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: or you're trying to hit whatever. Hey, I'm gonna bet 256 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: on all four eleven seeds to win their first round 257 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: game in the NCAA tournament. Like that's what it feels 258 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: like with the Richardson Parlay. I mean, there are so 259 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: many branches to the Richardson at this point failure two 260 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: and a half years into it. I'd say so much 261 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: of the root of it is in misevaluation, is whatever, 262 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: not doing enough homework in assessing him at Florida. 263 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: And but by that do you mean off the field 264 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 4: as well? Yes, yes, I mean both on and off, okay. 265 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: And then then to clarify there, I'm not saying Anthony's 266 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: some bad person. 267 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: He getsht A ton of trouble. 268 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: Is just the leadership qualities, their preparedness for games, that 269 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: sort of thing. 270 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that's where so much of 271 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: it lies. And on the field as well. And you know, 272 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: if you want to walk away from anything tangibly from 273 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: what Ballart said yesterday, a couple of things. One he 274 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: says we're not trading him, Okay, so there's your news item. Two, 275 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like James. And again these are public words, 276 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: but the Colts have also had public words in the 277 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: other direction about Richardson in the last couple of years. 278 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like the issues right now are Monday 279 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: through Saturday work ethic, quarterback standard, anything like that. And again, 280 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: we have heard them say that before, so I could 281 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: get where people quickly are saying, Hey, of course they're 282 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: not going to say that. They don't want to throw 283 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: the kid under the bus anymore, but at times they 284 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: have shared that. But right now that doesn't seem to 285 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: be the case with him exactly. 286 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: We heard a lot of that word operation. We like 287 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: the operation better with Daniel Jones right. 288 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Now, correct, I mean oftentimes, you know, when they praise 289 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. It is probably also a direct one to 290 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. 291 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: Cody Wright's kind of crazy thought before we even play 292 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: game one. But isn't this roster actually set up for 293 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: a young quarterback really well, supposed to be a good 294 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: line stud, tight end, possession wide receiver in pits, slotting downs, 295 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: deep ball guys, top five running backs, supposedly good play caller. 296 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: It's just the weird dynamic of time is up for 297 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: Chris and Shane to win. But they should be letting 298 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: their young quarterback develop with what seems like a really 299 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: solid supporting cast. Instead, they're relying on the cast to 300 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: elevate DJ and save everyone's jobs. 301 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: I think that's really well said. You go back to 302 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, you had an offensive line that was 303 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: the only the new left tackle. You obviously didn't f 304 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren. From a wide receiver standpoint, Pearce was not 305 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: yet Pierce and josh Awllens was a rookie. So I'm 306 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: trying to think was the Taylor contract drama was that 307 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three or twenty twenty four? 308 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: That was twenty twenty three, because remember Anthony started the 309 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: year month and was kind of promising, oh. 310 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, his only snap, he only played like one snap 311 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: with him, right exactly. Yeah, So then you had that, 312 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think that's a great point from 313 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Cody there. 314 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: I still to this day don't think that JT gets 315 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: that extension if ar does not look as good as 316 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: he did that first month of the season. I truly 317 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: believe they thought, wait a second, this guy is better 318 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: than we thought. Let's get our running back in there, 319 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: make his life easier. 320 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: Then you know, things change. 321 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: James, what you make of if I could transition away 322 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: from quarterback for a brief minute, I guess I'm Chris 323 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Boward here thirteen minutes in the Prescott. 324 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: Well, but said, hold on, now I'm the one asking 325 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: the question. 326 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: See positions of strength that he mentioned makes sense to you, 327 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: not makes sense to you. Would you throw any others 328 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: out there? Trenches, wide receiver, tight end with the positions 329 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: that he mentioned as what do you consider strengths? 330 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, the one that I would push back on a 331 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: bit is probably tight end because although everyone here is 332 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: high on Tyler Warren feeling good you know by the way, Yes, 333 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: I think that he elevates that room a lot, but 334 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: you didn't change anything else really outside of him, And 335 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: I get that Marley Cox, in my opinion, is probably 336 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: a better suited player for the role he'll be in 337 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: this season versus being your number one guy. But again, 338 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: you didn't really upgrade anywhere else. So I have questions 339 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: about that, especially because football, you know, you know how 340 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: this game goes. If Tyler Warren gets dinged up, you're 341 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 4: back to where you were before with the same tight 342 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: end room. So I have questions there. But I do 343 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: agree that wide receiver is really good for them, a 344 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: really healthy room. Do they have a bona fide star 345 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: like a Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson, No, but I 346 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: think they have a lot of really good players that 347 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 4: can contribute, especially in this style. Of offense that I'll 348 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 4: imagine with Daniel Jones is a bit more conservative. And 349 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 4: you have, in my opinion, a couple of wide receivers 350 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: and Josh Downs and my Gonna Piman Junior who can 351 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: really help you in the middle of the field short 352 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: yardage sort of like the in between games. So that 353 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 4: that to me is a plus. And I did love 354 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 4: and I'm not saying this casually. I mean this honestly 355 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: him giving a shout out to LaQuan tread Well because tread. 356 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Well not the practice squad. 357 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'll see what that means. I believe they 358 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 4: have three spots left. They announced fourteen, but they have 359 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 4: one player that was the international exemption. Have sixteen on 360 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 4: your practice squad, so they have three more that they 361 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 4: can feel. And the reason why could be seventeen is 362 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: you can have sixteen I guess American players and then 363 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: one international exemption. 364 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: So we'll see where that all shakes out. 365 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: But that's a guy who again on another team, he 366 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: might be the sixth receiver. 367 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 3: Is just here. They got too much talent that position 368 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: as of the side. 369 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: Someone asked kJ from Brownsburg wanted to know did we 370 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: hear anything on Mike Hilton being. 371 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: Brought in for a tryout yesterday. 372 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: No, no update just there just yet. I'm sorry, but 373 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: I will certainly check in with the ever so telling 374 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: sources to see what I can bring you. 375 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 3: Maybe they're in the show. We'll see it. 376 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: Sounds like they're going to work out a lot of 377 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: dudes here in the next few days. 378 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 379 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: I Adam Scheff rather report of Anthony Walker, former Colts 380 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: linebacker been in Miami most recently has started games in 381 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: the NFL. I think people will remember that name. So 382 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: Ballard definitely mentioned that Jeremy Foller from ESPN had Tyler Scott, 383 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: a wide out who I think spent time with the Bears, 384 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: drafted by the Bears. 385 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and signed fourth round pick Yea Rings the Bell. 386 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: They had him signed with the Colts practice squad. So 387 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: that would probably further push Laquon Treadwell away because that 388 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: would give him what three line or three wide outs 389 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: I think on the practice squad with that, So no, 390 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: also no Jason Bean on the practice squad for those 391 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: that care are curious if the fourth quarterback would be 392 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: there or if Jason Bean would hang around. So I'm 393 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: not surprised by that, but just thought our chair it. 394 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome into the Fan Morning Show. Along 395 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: with Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, I'm jeff Rickord, Mark Dyton 396 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: with us as well bombshell report from the Washington Post 397 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: this morning. Colts owner Jim Mersey spent his final years 398 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: in the throes of a relapse that was hidden from 399 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: the public. We'll talk more about that coming in a 400 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: few minutes. We're all reading through it and getting more 401 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: details as we speak, but scheduled to join us at 402 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: this time one of our favorite, Scott Agnes from the 403 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Fieldhouse Files on the Payless Lookers Hotline, is here to 404 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about the Indiana fever. Coming 405 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: off a big win at home the other night against Seattle, 406 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: getting ready to go on the road, take on the Sparks, 407 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: a team that currently is on the outside looking in 408 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: and chasing the fever in the playoff spot, and of course, 409 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 2: the never ending questions about the health of Caitlin Clark. 410 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Good morning, Scott Agnes, and welcome to the show. How 411 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: are you doing this morning? 412 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 6: Good morning, I appreciate it, doing just fun. How about you, guys? 413 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: We're doing very well. Is today the day that Caitlin 414 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: Clark gets the practice jersey on and makes it up 415 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: and down the floor with her teammates. 416 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would expect that they're out in LA and 417 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 6: we'll get the practice in out there, and they were 418 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 6: able to enjoy yesterday off. But I would guess if 419 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 6: you're Caitlin and you're chomping to get back to it, 420 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 6: I'm sure you were in the gym and getting a 421 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 6: workout session in as well. So you're talking about maybe 422 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 6: Jeff After today, she would have at least three, maybe 423 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 6: four workout sessions in and in getting to a number 424 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 6: in a number of situations where I think Stephanie White 425 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 6: would be comfortable continuing to move forward with all this, 426 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 6: And so I think that's the best thing because obviously 427 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 6: there's not much time left. You have four the next 428 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 6: five games on the road, in just six games left total, 429 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 6: and so clock is ticking. But I think there's an 430 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 6: opportunity right here for her to return, and it would 431 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 6: probably be early next week. 432 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: Scott, I don't care about Kaitlyn Clark. I care about 433 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: TJ McConnell. Knight. You were boots on the Crown, tell 434 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: me all about it that the crowds looked massive last 435 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: night of Victory Field for the backup point guard. 436 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, KB, I think it was an overwhelming success. As 437 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 6: TJ came out, they played a minute long montage on 438 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 6: the giant video boarding. I just looked around, panned around 439 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 6: the stadium. It was all TJ and Pacer fans. It 440 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 6: was remarkable. Let's go back to before gates open. Half 441 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 6: an hour before that, there had to be hundreds at 442 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 6: least outside of the Victory Field gates. Then they open 443 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 6: up the gates and TJ's going was signing in the outfield, 444 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 6: so kind of right where everybody came in, and I 445 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 6: kid you not, within two minutes there was a line 446 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 6: kind of down and back that was already sneaking in 447 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 6: just two minutes and something you just don't hear. Ever, 448 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 6: he set to his sign for about a half an hour. 449 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 6: The line was so long that it looked like there 450 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 6: was no progress made that he goes all, right, after 451 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 6: I throw out the first pitch, I'll come back and 452 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 6: sign more autographs, and he did for another half an hour. 453 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 6: There was supposed to be kb A pushing for him 454 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 6: at the bottom of the second inning. He was still 455 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 6: signing autographs even then, so I think he was a 456 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 6: massive success and more than anything. I think sometimes in 457 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 6: a giant field house it's hard to understand maybe the 458 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 6: fandom or whoevery wys and of course you have your superstar. 459 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 6: Pl look, TJ is a role player, crushes that role 460 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 6: in his fan base. I mean they really rallied around him, 461 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 6: and it was and it was remarkable too for me 462 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 6: to see the demographics of fans just ranged entirely. There 463 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 6: was there was adults, there was there was young kids. 464 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 7: Uh. 465 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 6: There was one guy that said, yeah, I drove four 466 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 6: hours from Kentucky to c TJ. So, uh, you saw 467 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 6: everything last night and I thought it was it went 468 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 6: over really well. 469 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: So you proving my theory. Mark Dyke in the TJ. 470 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: McConnell in this town is just as popular as Blue. 471 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: He is among adult males. I would wholeheartedly agree. 472 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 3: So, Scott, I know. 473 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: You do a lot of serious supporting, but you know, 474 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 4: along those same lines, I see here that you said 475 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: there was a slam dunk contest on a mini hoop 476 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: the out hustle TJ in Great Cliffs style cam with 477 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: photos of him. So yeah, of those three, which one 478 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 4: are which one are you? Because I would love to 479 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 4: see in a mini hoop dunk contest myself. But can 480 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: you explain what the out hustle TJ events or theme was. 481 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, so those didn't really involve him more just the themes, 482 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 6: but they were they were really fun. And again the 483 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 6: first one he was supposed to judge the slam Dunk contest, 484 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 6: but he was still signing autographs when that happened, so 485 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 6: he was not You would not want me in the 486 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: slam dunk contests. I'm much like Tye and such. I 487 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 6: much rather pass than set. 488 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: Up the basket. 489 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 6: But in terms of the outrun him, it was kind 490 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 6: of cool. They set up like a digital Oh I'm 491 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 6: gonna get yelled at, like a tech techmo or whatever 492 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 6: it is. That was a digital version on the out 493 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 6: outfield wall I think it's left field, and an individual 494 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 6: tried to out race that character. So that's what that. 495 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 4: Oh okay, I got you, I gotcha. This is like 496 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 4: in baseball? Was that the mister Freezer? 497 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah gotch okay? 498 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 4: Well on a more, yeou is no because I could 499 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: talk about this all day seriously with your Scott, But 500 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 4: looking at the fever, huge win obviously over the Seattle 501 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 4: Storm to put themselves in a great position down a 502 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 4: stretch here when we look at the playoff picture, what 503 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: do you think this team has shown despite all of 504 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 4: the injuries, yet they're still in this position to make 505 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: the playoffs for a second consecutive year. 506 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 6: I think they've shown exactly what they're made of. And 507 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 6: I think all these hardships pun intended here, with all 508 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 6: the hardship contracts, I think it's shown how close they are. 509 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 6: And I mean just you're watching the middle of these 510 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 6: games and several of them are not even a team 511 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 6: at the moment because they had surgery and their life 512 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 6: tweeting or hey I love these girls, or hey that's 513 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 6: you know whatever throughout the game or after a big 514 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 6: play or whatever. I think this is hardened this group 515 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 6: because all they have is each other as they see 516 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 6: one player after and they almost go down in this 517 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 6: trying season like any we've seen before, and so they 518 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 6: realize there's a lot of doubt that what they can do, 519 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 6: or who's available and such, and all we keep seeing 520 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 6: is is players from the outside shut again that it's 521 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 6: all about fitting opportunity right. Erry McDonald was phenomenal and 522 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 6: unfortunately she's out, and Odyssey Simms is the latest in 523 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 6: that situation, coming you know was available is a veteran 524 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 6: came in has played her role in the last game. 525 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 6: For example, you see here chipping twenty two points as 526 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 6: a starting point guard while the team keeps their turnovers 527 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 6: to twelve. I think that's been fantastic no matter who 528 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 6: they're playing there. And the fact there's sixth and certainly 529 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 6: vying for a playoffs spot to fight despite Caitlin only 530 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 6: playing in about a dozen games this season is incredible. 531 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 6: And so overall, I think you've just seen a lot 532 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 6: of a lot of culture being established, I think by 533 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 6: this front office, by the coaching staff, and then this players. 534 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 6: They've just made the most of their opportunities. 535 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: Again, Scott Agnesfield as files you can find its work. 536 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: He's with us here on the Payless Slickers hotline. Scott, 537 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: we're about six days removed from the story about Mike 538 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: winer Rick Carlisle. I guess you'd call maybe his top 539 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: assistant mutually parting ways. And I thought the press release, 540 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: and I mean, you've read plenty of mutually parting ways 541 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: press releases in your day, that one was one of 542 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: the more complimentary ones that I've ever read. Steven Simon 543 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: went to Twitter and called Mike Winer a rock star, 544 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I read it and it didn't 545 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: scream to me at all. This guy is just going 546 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: got a better job offer somewhere else, And honestly, when 547 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: I read it, I'm like, boy, I hope everything's okay 548 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: with Mike Winer and his family a month out from 549 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: the start of training camp. Anymore that you have found 550 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: out about Mike Winer and leaving the Pacers about a 551 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: month before the start of the season. 552 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree with what you said there, starting 553 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 6: with the press release in that and I even noted 554 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 6: this in my story that the press release for him 555 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 6: to them having this parting of ways longer than one 556 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 6: like three days earlier, about celebrating Rick Carlisle being signed 557 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 6: to this contract extension, which is obviously a huge success 558 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 6: and celebration, and so instead of just being a one 559 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 6: or two liner, No, they wanted to take a long 560 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 6: time with this, and clearly Rick Carlisle wanted to Charlot 561 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 6: to make sure to emphasize his contributions and him being 562 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 6: a winner. But right now, no, nothing more has emerged 563 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 6: from this situation. I know it was a challenging finish 564 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 6: for him family wise over the last several months and 565 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 6: to in the last this past season. But there was 566 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: no indication in my mind and from what I had heard, 567 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 6: that this might head this way or anything like this. 568 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 6: But right now it does seem more perhaps like a 569 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 6: family and personal decision for him to not be with 570 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 6: the team this year. 571 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: Scott, thanks for stopping by. 572 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: We always appreciate that you have to come men some. 573 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: Morning when you're downtown, have you It'll be fun, all right? 574 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: Not getting it. 575 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 3: I appreciate you waking up for the show. You can 576 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: do it from you know, from home. 577 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: I think Mark Dyton wakes him up. 578 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks Scott, you bet, thank you. 579 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: Here we are fully of the week one the college 580 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: football season. Got a top twenty five matchup later on tonight, 581 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: a couple of three what three top ten matchups coming. 582 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: Up over the weekend, Kevin Bowen, I'm looking forward to it. 583 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: IU gets back on the. 584 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: Field, Perdue gets back on the field, and I cannot wait. 585 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: We go to the payless Liquers hotline right now we 586 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: talk to our next guest who knows all about these things. 587 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: Tom Dinert from on three dot com kind enough to 588 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: join us here on the Fan Morning show. 589 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: It is that time of year. Are you ready for 590 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: some football? My friend? 591 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 5: I am c the what Hank Williams Junior. I guess 592 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 5: so much speculation, conjecture, what ifs talk talk talk, We're 593 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 5: finally going to see some action heres. I can't wait 594 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 5: for high newt on saddly oben ross a. 595 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: Tom I, if you don't mind, I kind of want 596 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: to go into the Devin Mockaby story. I was talking 597 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: about my buddies, a big Purdue football fan the other day. 598 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: I had almost forgotten that Maccabee stayed. You know, so 599 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: much of the team is obviously gone, and so much 600 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: of the headline guys went to frankly so Marquis schools 601 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. If we haven't maybe been glued 602 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: to the maccaby story over the years, why has he 603 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: chosen to stay through all of this? Because I think 604 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: a lot of athletes in his position in today's world 605 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: of college football would have been gone. 606 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, we sort of taken for granted at this point, 607 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 5: all the drama, all the roster tumult that took place 608 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 5: after the season, their sad Devin Mockaby right waiting patiently 609 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 5: see the head coach was going to be no hasty 610 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 5: moves and had to sit down with with with co 611 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 5: qotam and and I tell you that we asked him 612 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 5: about this over the winner, and I think he was 613 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 5: after he decided he was going to stay. Was he 614 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 5: really wants a Predue engineering degree. And I think he's 615 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 5: sincere about that. If you talk to him at all, 616 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 5: you know he's really into his car mechanics and and uh, 617 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 5: and it came to Pue to be an engineer. He 618 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 5: wants to be a Purdue engineer. So I think that's 619 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 5: a big part of it. I think he realizes the 620 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 5: legacy's guy here too. With a good season, I think 621 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 5: close to twelve hundred yards rushing, he could leave here 622 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 5: as the all time leading rusher. So you know, it's 623 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 5: setting up well for Devin Mockaby. He's become a beloved figure. 624 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you, just because he did decide 625 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 5: to stay. Well, so many players left you're talking about 626 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 5: will help going to Clemson, you know, and just online 627 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 5: ago it's dealing theme and going out to Oregon and uh. 628 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 5: But but you know what, Devin Mockaby stayed and he 629 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 5: has a chance to be the centerpiece of this offense 630 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 5: this year. 631 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I feel like that is proof 632 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: that God has favorites. 633 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 4: Because you're telling me you're playing Big ten football and 634 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 4: you want to get an engineering degree. 635 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 3: What do you mean like they one or the other? 636 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: Young man good big football? 637 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 3: Exactly? 638 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 4: No, that is that is awesome And so uh, I 639 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 4: do want to pivot a bit here too. You know, 640 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: got a new coach in town. How has Barry Odom 641 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 4: sort of injected a sense of confidence or a certain 642 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: standard with this team? Because we know obviously you're gonna 643 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: be judged by wines and losses. So in his mind 644 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 4: or what you've been able to gather, what do you 645 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: think will define success for this team this year? 646 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 5: You know, if you believe Las Vegas, I think the 647 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 5: over under win total was three and a half for Purdue. 648 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 5: It probably sounds about the spot on, honestly, three and nine, 649 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: four and eight. But and in a lot of ways, 650 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 5: I'm not sure you can totally judge the team just 651 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 5: on the win total. I know that sounds silly to 652 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 5: say that's really what matters at the end of the day, 653 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: But given what produced coming off of I think that 654 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: one and eleventh season not just a one and eleven season, 655 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 5: but a disastrous one and eleven season, a soft for 656 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 5: do not just lose, but often losing spectacular fashion. So 657 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: get your wins, get your three to four wins, but 658 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 5: also be competitive, right, don't don't embarrass the university. Look organized, 659 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 5: look buttoned up, look well coached, especially against your peer programs. Right. 660 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 5: I mean, you're gonna have Mischigan, Ohio State at the 661 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 5: heavyweights and Notre Dame Piers Doing not gonna have much 662 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 5: of a chance to match up with. But the other 663 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 5: peer programs, that's where peer's got to show the stuff. 664 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: Be competitive and win some of those games too. 665 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: Tom Dianar joining us on the payless Liquers hotline right now, 666 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: what would you say a successful season for Purdue would 667 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: look like at the end of the year. 668 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, again, a lot of that. Uh what I recap? 669 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 5: I think you know from a win loss standpoint three 670 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 5: and nine, four and eight. You know, these first two games. 671 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 5: You hate to call the first two games of a 672 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 5: season must win games, but I'm gonna go in and 673 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 5: call the must win games for Purdue. They got ball 674 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 5: staying here Saturday, and then they've got seven Illinois coming 675 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 5: in the next week for a night game. Peer's got 676 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 5: to win both those games. You need the momentum, we 677 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 5: need the confidence. You need the wins because the lifting 678 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 5: gets a lot heavier from there on out. You know, 679 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 5: USC comes here, so pre ope is a three home 680 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 5: games and the Trojans coming, guy, guys, that could be 681 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 5: very a fun, interesting game, right, Produce two and oh 682 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 5: here comes? Do I see all the way from the 683 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 5: West Coast to Westlafia for a three three o'clock kickoff? 684 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 5: Were on on Lincoln Rallies on the hot seat. We 685 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 5: on a lot of times the West Coast teams struggle 686 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 5: coming east, so I'm not saying it, but you never know. 687 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 5: It could be kind of a fun afternoon. But again, 688 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 5: you gotta be two. And I mean look at the 689 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 5: rest of the schedule. Right they have Rutgers for homecoming. 690 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 5: I think that's when you probably get there. At Northwestern, 691 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 5: I think that's why probably has to win as well. 692 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 5: And you know Indiana, Illinois and now Sudden the top 693 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 5: twenty five teams, they got to go to Minnesota as stuff. 694 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 5: You got to go to Washington to play Ryan Walters. 695 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 5: That could be tough. So I think I see upwards 696 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 5: of four winds on that on that roster. If I 697 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 5: if I look close enough and squint my eyes. 698 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: Tom d Hart, the voice right there on the Paylos 699 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: Stickers hotline covering Purdue for on three, Tom, I think 700 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: you know a large chunk of our audience certainly recalls 701 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: the Tyler Trent story. It was one of the more 702 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: or moving stories that we've seen here locally in quite 703 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: some time. Obviously, everything around that Ohio State game and 704 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: then sadly died of bone cancer that next year. But 705 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: that story seems to be again alive with his brother, 706 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: Ethan Trent, who I believe is going to start on 707 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: the offensive line for the Boilers. Could you share a 708 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: little bit more on that story. 709 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 5: Unbelievable and then just incredible that Tyler Trent's story has 710 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 5: another chapter to it. Here comes Ethan Trent. Do you 711 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 5: guys remember back in twenty eighteen, you know, they brought 712 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 5: Tyler up to football games and there was this kind 713 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 5: of little chubby kid pushing Ethan in the wheelchair. I'm sorry, 714 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 5: pushing Tyler in the wheelchairs. It was Ethan Trent. And 715 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 5: now he's your full growing obviously a red shirt, redshirt 716 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 5: sophomore's third year, Purdue committed to Indiana State out of 717 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 5: Carmel got to walk on offer to produce who came 718 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 5: here and this is his third year on campus, And 719 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 5: you're right, he's he's gonna start it right guard. I'm 720 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 5: pretty sure of that. And and it just not not 721 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 5: just a blossoming football player, but just just a great 722 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 5: young man. We had a chance to talk to him 723 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 5: several times. We did again yesterday, and I'm just blown away. Guys, 724 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 5: for somebody to be so young and seeming to be 725 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 5: so mature and and have their life and order just 726 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 5: really impresses me when I think where I think where 727 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: I was at as a twenty year old to produce. 728 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 5: So he's gonna be a fun guy to watch. Number 729 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 5: seventy six and you're gonna hear that story we told 730 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 5: every time produced on television a million times. Ethan said 731 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 5: he at first he kind of shrinked from that, wanting 732 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 5: to be in the spotlight because of it, He says, 733 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 5: now he embraces this. So it's gonna be fun of 734 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 5: watching him this year and continue to hear his story. 735 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, to kind of pick it back off of that. 736 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: I'm reading the quote here from him and in the 737 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 4: story by your colleague Dub jealouson and he was saying, 738 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 4: how you know he felt a bit ashamed. He says, 739 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 4: I was ashamed because I just didn't want to be 740 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 4: in his shadow while I was here. In a way, 741 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: that is a lot of pressure for a young person 742 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 4: to face when your brother is such a prominent figure 743 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 4: for positive reasons, obviously, but you want to be your 744 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 4: own person. So how have you seen him kind of 745 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 4: you know, maybe not carry that grief is like a 746 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 4: like a like a tag or something like that in 747 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 4: a way. Obviously it's always there, But how have you 748 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 4: seen him kind of you know, come in life and 749 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 4: be his own person and maybe not have to be 750 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 4: the first thing come in to mind people think of him. 751 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 5: I think just I think it comes from from the 752 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 5: way he carries himself. 753 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 7: You know, he. 754 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 5: He's growing up obviously. I think he's realized, you know, 755 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 5: the deacon do your not as a football player, but 756 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 5: other aspects of his life as well. So and he, 757 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 5: like I said, he's a kid that then it has 758 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 5: all this priority priority strand I know he's a very 759 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 5: popular teammate as well. It was a lot of fun 760 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 5: to spring to see him get rewardless scholarship by Barry Old. 761 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 5: I mean he and Ethan Trench sort of the count 762 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 5: on a story for us when when Odin first got here, 763 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 5: he he wanted to sit down meeting with with Burrio. 764 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 5: And this is tell coach to them, Hey give me 765 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 5: a chance. All they want is a chance. Let me 766 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 5: show you what I can do and bury you. I'm 767 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 5: that kind of guy. And here we are. He earns 768 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 5: a scholarship in the spring. And now we've been transpoised 769 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 5: to start on the offensive line on Saturllinge. 770 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 2: Outstanding story, outstanding stuff. And we look forward to the 771 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 2: build up of Purdue football and may it starts this 772 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: week against ball State. So thanks for stopping by, Tom. 773 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: We appreciate it as always. 774 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 5: Finally here, thanks for having me, fellows,