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Speaker 1: Way are back. It is Colts Corn with myself, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Bow and Eddie Garrison is with me. It is a

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Speaker 1: late Thursday night, very late for Eddie, so appreciate him

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Speaker 1: joining us here on this Friday morning. We are going

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Speaker 1: to recap Colts and Ravens preseason opener. What was the

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Speaker 1: final score? Twenty four to sixteen? Was it that?

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Speaker 2: I think so? By the way, I love that the.

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Speaker 1: NFL now it just ends preseason games and ties. That

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Speaker 1: is awesome to see. The Colts avoided that, but it's

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Speaker 1: one of the games last night and in a tie.

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Speaker 1: A ton to get to on today's pod. Obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot from last night and really unfortunate rookie injury news,

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Speaker 1: so we'll hit on that as well. Eddie, good morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, and I appreciate you being appreciative of me.

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Speaker 2: But I think we're equaling the same boat here, just

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Speaker 2: because you know, you host a morning show at seven am,

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Speaker 2: and that game did not really end early into the

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Speaker 2: night last night for you either, so we're probably, you know,

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Speaker 1: Never been a big fan of the primetimers, but no

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Speaker 1: one wants to care about that. They would like to

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Speaker 1: hopefully hear a little bit of analyzing I guess from

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Speaker 1: last night. So let's get into it. We'll start with

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Speaker 1: our regular season mode of hey, what did I like?

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Speaker 1: What did I not like? But let's start with the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and obviously begin with Anthony Richardson. I guess there is

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Speaker 1: part of me that, you know, feels the need to

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Speaker 1: look at the three passes that he did throw. He

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Speaker 1: was two of three last night, Eddie, and you know

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Speaker 1: the screen to WARRENIM it seemed like, and I think

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Speaker 1: the injury play also plays into this, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: more again, that's kind of simple. Get to third and seven,

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Speaker 1: You have a chance to convert and seven. I didn't

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Speaker 1: And it nearly was. He nearly gets picked off there

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Speaker 1: but in the regular season, I'll eat it. That's probably

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Speaker 1: giving him too much credit, but that's when you got

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Speaker 1: been obviously knocking you out of field goal range in

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Speaker 1: all likelihood there. So I guess that is the extreme

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Speaker 1: overreaction to three snaps of him. But obviously let's go

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Speaker 1: to the play that he gets injured on. The injury itself,

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Speaker 1: by all accounts, doesn't sound to be too severe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so against Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Yeah, the cultural practice

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Speaker 1: and that hit itself, like you know, we have this

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Speaker 1: Nothing last night Eddie changed my thought on that, Like

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Speaker 1: summarize it all, Eddie. It doesn't sound like his absence

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Speaker 1: It's got to be Richardson for a quarter and a

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Speaker 2: The end of it. So but.

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Speaker 1: The injury itself, the injury prone narrative, none of that

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Speaker 2: Well, he did lose it, yeah, and he got it back. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that could be catastrophic in a road environment

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Speaker 1: pretty much everything I've got on Richardson Eddie.

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Speaker 1: I thought he's I thought he's better than the stat

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Speaker 1: But then like, if I I watched whatever Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: It's like yesterday, I'm playing in this golf at and

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Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, Kevin, how but if you be the

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Speaker 1: It's just like Daniel Jones playing quarterback. It's like, well

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Speaker 2: Do you have the precision like a Greg Maddox? Kevin,

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Speaker 1: I guess Matt Gay had that big hook going last year,

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Speaker 1: whereas I guess he'll kind of a slight one last

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Speaker 1: night for those that watch to miss kick, but great

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Speaker 1: opportunity kick for field goals last night. I think he's

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Speaker 1: the leader. I think he'll be your kicker and then

435
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Speaker 1: you just kind of wait and see his season moves along.

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Speaker 2: Hit one from fifty three right, Yes, had plenty of

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Speaker 2: leg left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean leg is no, I mean no, leg

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Speaker 1: is no issue. This is not hot rod where you're like, wait,

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Speaker 1: does he have the leg or does he not of

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Speaker 1: the leg?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, he he can boom it. It's just

444
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Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen when it all gets real.

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Speaker 1: And you know the one he missed last night. They

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Speaker 1: threw him out there kind of in a two minutes.

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Speaker 1: You know, probably the more pressure packed kick and you know,

448
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Speaker 1: snap and hold looked good. But you know, you kind

449
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Speaker 1: of ran them out on the field and all of that,

450
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Speaker 1: so I assume he will be your kicker.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into Twitter questions, the remaining camp schedule

452
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Speaker 2: will practice Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and then they're off until thirdday, right,

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Speaker 2: and that'll be the final training kit practice with the

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers at Grand Park. And that one is

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Speaker 2: a three o'clock and I think I know Saturday and

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Speaker 2: Sunday or four o'clocks. I can't remember. Monday.

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Speaker 1: Monday is as well, So yeah, they're done with the

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Speaker 1: morning practices. Yeah, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. As you said, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: four o'clock each day. I would guess Saturday is a

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Speaker 1: little light and then Sunday and Monday would be a

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Speaker 1: little bit more ramped up. Tuesday and Wednesday or off,

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Speaker 1: so then you recharge the batteries for like you said,

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Speaker 1: that green Bay joint, it sounded like on this broadcast

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Speaker 1: last night, Kenny Moore kind of hinted at like he's

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Speaker 1: going to get out there for the Green Bay game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that was just him talking or

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Speaker 1: if that's real, because Shane's always been like, if we

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Speaker 1: have jointed practice we're not going to play those guys,

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Speaker 1: right and they sat. I think I did the math

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Speaker 1: last night and I'll use this quotes Eddie. They had

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Speaker 1: three defensive starters a lot too, and Quity pay played

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Speaker 1: a series and then cammer Groan right now, is listen

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Speaker 1: as a starter? Offensively? If you call Richardson a starter,

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Speaker 1: you had four I think Richardson, Tyler, Warren, hannerh Bordolini

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Speaker 1: and Mackenzlvos. So you played about six ish starters there.

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Speaker 1: You know me, I've always been a believer that you

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Speaker 1: play more of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not holding my breath at all.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into Twitter questions because our first one, uh

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Speaker 2: pertains towards the offensive line. This is from Claude KB.

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Speaker 2: Was Anthony Richardson at fault for that sack or the organization?

483
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Speaker 2: Should he have been out there with the second unit?

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Speaker 2: Or is that a blown protection? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean, by all accounts, it was blown by Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 1: If you watch that play, I think the other tens

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Speaker 1: seem to be pretty much on the same page, you know,

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Speaker 1: Is any of this Hanner, BORDERLINI, Anthony Richardson not on

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Speaker 1: the same page, you know? Yeah, is the center controlling

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Speaker 1: that and or is that just something that you just

491
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Speaker 1: id and you don't even communicate it together, you know, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we have to be on the same page. We don't

493
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Speaker 1: need to have a dummy check or whatever. A call

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Speaker 1: to the line that gets us on the same page. Again,

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Speaker 1: I pointed out, if you look at it, the three

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Speaker 1: rookies on that playoff seem to know what they're doing there,

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Speaker 1: and you know Richardson doesn't there, so you know, organizationally,

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Speaker 1: I guess Claude's kind of hinting at do you play

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Speaker 1: your frontline guys? Again, I don't think that all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden cures that play.

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 1: Outside of Taylor, I probably wouldn't have too many issues

503
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Speaker 1: playing anybody else offensively. I mean, guys can get rolled

504
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Speaker 1: up on at any moment.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I mean Rashaun Slater loses the season yesterday in practice, Yep,

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Speaker 1: you know it.

508
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Speaker 2: Just see CJ. Gardner Johnson looks like the same. Yeah,

509
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Speaker 2: you just never know.

510
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Speaker 1: And Joe Wright, who you heard on the broadcast last night.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's always said this, He's like, you got

512
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Speaker 1: a spar as an offensivelignment, Like you have got to

513
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Speaker 1: get into those settings and experience it, so you know,

514
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Speaker 1: we will see. If I don't know, do you what

515
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Speaker 1: do you think they do week three of the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Let's say they throw Richardson out there quarter and a

517
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Speaker 1: half green Bay. What do you think they do for

518
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Speaker 1: that Cincinnati game? No joint practice before Cincinnati, you're done

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Speaker 1: with training camp. What do you do that Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: final preseason game?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. I would assume that it would

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Speaker 2: hope that you would play the entire starting unit at

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Speaker 2: least for a series or two and then let Richardson

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Speaker 2: go out there with whatever you want the second unit,

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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: Do you name a starter after the Green Bay game

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Speaker 1: a week from Saturday and you dress rehearsal that dude

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Speaker 1: in that final preseason game? No, so you carry the

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Speaker 1: competition out through the Cincinnati game.

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Speaker 2: I would, yeah, just because look what happened last night,

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Speaker 2: Like you can name richard and the start of going

532
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Speaker 2: into that Cincinnati game for week one and then he

533
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Speaker 2: gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be very curious see what Shane Second does

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Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 2: Twitter. Question Number two is from Wakespy. Hypothetically, if Anthony

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Speaker 2: Richardson doesn't paint out and Daniel Jones doesn't pan out either.

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Speaker 2: Wake Spike says, really big stretch there. What three cults

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Speaker 2: do you think the organization would try to trade ahead

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six, assuming they hold richardson no matter

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Speaker 2: what for next season.

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Speaker 3: Look's got a loaded one.

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Speaker 1: With a new GM. Everybody's on the table, right yep,

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Speaker 1: I mean the immediate ones that would come to mind. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: anytime you get a running back of Taylor's age and

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Speaker 1: making that money, Yep, that'd be a contract year for him.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken. A Pittman would also be in

548
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Speaker 1: a contract year. We've talked about the wide out future,

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Speaker 1: especially if Mitchell shows you something. I think you largely

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Speaker 1: you know those the old line guys. Obviously Braden Smith

551
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Speaker 1: would be a free agent, but Nelson, and I guess

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Speaker 1: Nelson might be doing an extension.

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Speaker 2: But you know, certainly Ryman isn't Nelson want to be

554
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Speaker 2: in a contract year next year as well? I remember

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Speaker 2: him being like an underrated guy could get Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now I think you would want I mean you theoretically,

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Speaker 1: if you're having a new quarterback, I think you'd kind

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Speaker 1: of want a solid offensive line. So I'd say Taylor Pittman,

559
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Speaker 1: and then defensively, really all those guys are kind of

560
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Speaker 1: in the same boat. Buckner up there in age, Grover

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Speaker 1: up there in age, I are up there in age,

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Speaker 1: Kenny up there in age. Obviously various value. Get Ward,

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Speaker 1: yeah he is, he's one as well. So yeah, i'd

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Speaker 1: say Taylor, Pittman, and then I don't know, Buckner, probably Nette,

565
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Speaker 1: although he's in his thirties. Ward probably net a good amount.

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Speaker 1: But I am I mean, I'm always pretty much a

567
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Speaker 1: believer that I answer the phone on anybody just to

568
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Speaker 1: get intel. But who would be safe, you know again,

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Speaker 1: outside of winning, probably a solid offensive line for that

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Speaker 1: next quarterback. I could be talked into a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm assuming the players that you would deem

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Speaker 2: as safe would be Warren Downs and Ryman. Down's probably lesser,

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Speaker 2: the lesser of the three, just because I mean, I

574
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Speaker 2: feel like slot receivers ones too, and.

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Speaker 1: I think Nelson. I mean, like again, I i'd want

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Speaker 1: some continuity behind that or in front of I guess

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Speaker 1: I should say that quarterback there, But boy, if you

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you gave me the right asking price, yeah,

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Speaker 1: hell yeah.

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Speaker 2: Neil would like to know KB if Ady Mitchell still

581
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Speaker 2: has an underwhelming season. Is he going to be another

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Speaker 2: Paris Campbell, another high draft pick that is a dud?

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Speaker 1: No? No, first off, Unfortunately, the Paris Campbell thing has

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Speaker 1: been well at least here was largely injured related. I

585
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Speaker 1: saw just got cut by Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I think he got hurt. Did he get hurt? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then he got cut.

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Speaker 1: He was he Philly recently with Sirianni.

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Speaker 2: He was. Yeah, he was a arrest in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: As wild as that sounds, yeah, I think it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's injuries for Campbell largely compared to whatever with Mitchell,

592
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Speaker 1: and like, can we pump the breaks on this Mitchell thing?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I've gotten these sorts of

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Speaker 1: questions several times. It's like, guy, he's been lead for

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Speaker 1: one year. I mean, you're letting Jelanne Woods play out

596
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Speaker 1: of his rookie contract. Mitchell is not going anywhere. And

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Speaker 1: you know, again, he's doing the he's arguably doing the

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Speaker 1: hardest thing that there is to play receiver, and that's

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Speaker 1: get open. And this is kind of, you know, popped

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Speaker 1: in my mind. I don't know, Eddie, maybe once we

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Speaker 1: get through the preseason, we can kind of dedicate a

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Speaker 1: segment of a future podcast before the season starts to this,

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Speaker 1: how do the twenty twenty five Colts make the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: That general question. When that question is asked, you would

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Speaker 1: immediately probably point to two areas, if not both better

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Speaker 1: quarterback play and better defensive play. And again the thought

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Speaker 1: of quarterback is Daniel Jones' arrival. Richardson makes year three strides.

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Speaker 1: The thought defensively is investments in the secondary like you've

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Speaker 1: never had. And Lou and Rumo, I'd say third on

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Speaker 1: that list is better pass catching. You brought up downs

611
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Speaker 1: in Pierce earlier. They make you sleep just fine at night.

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Speaker 1: They were good individual players for you last year. Now

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Speaker 1: go to the next part of the pass catching group.

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Speaker 1: To me, I look at three areas. One is does

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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior not look like me with his back? Okay,

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Speaker 1: that could be one healthier Pittman and.

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Speaker 2: He's still caught what seventy balls or eight hundred yards exactly?

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Speaker 1: Two? Does Ady Mitchell have growth? And then three is,

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Speaker 1: of course the man we saw last night number eighty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his pure presence. So those are three different areas Pittman, health,

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Speaker 1: Mitchell growth, Warren's arrival. If you get one or two

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Speaker 1: of those, you had none of them last year. If

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Speaker 1: you get one or two of them of the three,

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Speaker 1: that's a better pass catching group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So again that is another part of Okay, how do

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Speaker 1: the Colts become a playoff team?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Some people might be skeptical quarterback wise, fine, some people

630
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Speaker 1: might be skeptical defensively.

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Speaker 2: Fine.

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Speaker 1: The pass catching thing, I can you know, if you

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Speaker 1: are Chris Ballard and you say, Kevin Bowen, sit down

634
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Speaker 1: and let me tell you why we're going to be

635
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Speaker 1: a better team this season, and he laid out the

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Speaker 1: pass catchers like that, I think I'd walk away from

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Speaker 1: that same. That makes a ton of sense. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: can see where you're coming from on that. And again,

639
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Speaker 1: my eyes have watched Mitchell. Pittman kind of been quiet,

640
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: but I've watched Mitchell, and I've watched Warren, and I

641
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: see where you're going from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was talking with somebody on the sidelines that

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Speaker 2: you know that one of those practices I was at,

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Speaker 2: and they're just I was like, hey, how's Pittman looked?

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Speaker 2: You know, he's he was last years the back he goes,

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Speaker 2: I mean he hasn't really done a lot, like he

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Speaker 2: hasn't flushed. I was like, yeah, that's also true because

648
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: Pittman's a gamer. He's not gonna be a guy that's

649
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: camp wowser. I mean his flash, Yeah, to your point,

650
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: his flash. He's more of a you out of the

651
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: box sports end of the game and you're like, oh wow.

652
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Speaker 1: Or honestly, he flashesn't make him like a physical plays

653
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Speaker 1: like yeah, did you see that hit he took.

654
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's gonna add it. I forget. So move along

655
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: to Mark's question or questions. I should say, how did

656
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: Juju Brins look prior to his hamstring injury? Kevin, what

657
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: is your level of confidence with the secondary? Seems like

658
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: the Colts have their top three corners and justin Wally,

659
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: Chevarius Word and Kinney Moo right now unfortunately for while

660
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: he is out for the season. Uh to have Juju Brince,

661
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: Samuel Wilmack and Jalen Jones whenever Jones returns his quality

662
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: depth In Mark's opinion, curious to hear your thoughts. Love

663
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Speaker 2: the pod and I'm happy we're back. We're almost here.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, Mark, less than a month away. How about we

665
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: get three top ten matchups in college football on opening weekend.

666
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: I thought I heard that was the first time ever

667
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: one versus two. Of course stateon Texas you'll get LSU Clemson,

668
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: and then you'll get the old fighting Irish against Miami.

669
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Speaker 1: There the top five team, a top ten, top ten,

670
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: top ten. Pretty sure, double check me on that if

671
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Boy, I've always liked Jalen Jones man, and

672
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: I thought Jalen Jones was having a nice little camp. Yeah,

673
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: put all these little sticker things.

674
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, she's gonna get mad that you're peeling it off.

675
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I thought he was making some plays. Now again, he's

676
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: a little different corner than Wally. Him and Juju are

677
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: different than Wally mm hm. So you know, Juju maybe

678
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: a couple of plays there, But I think the Bummers

679
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: just on paper, you have created real debt. Now, Like

680
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Speaker 1: let's say Jones and Brent show up for you and

681
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: they're healthy. Boy, Samuel Womack, you know the lottery numbers

682
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: on for me. If if Juju Brents is staying.

683
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: Healthy, Samuel Woman is your fifth corner. That's an improvement

684
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: from last year. And you got Chris Lamon still right, Yeah.

685
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: They re signed Lamon. Are they about Lamon's back? Last week?

686
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: We got a couple of those guys that came over

687
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: from Jerome Henderson with the Giants as well, Trey Herndon. Yeah,

688
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: but they I mean they barely Duke Shelley. I think

689
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: they barely played last year. And we mentioned Alex Johnson earlier,

690
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: Jonathan Edwards earlier. So you know, corner again, do you

691
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: do the same thing you did last year? Is it

692
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: a cut down position? Remember Walmack was there one waiver

693
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: claim last year, So is that something that you dabble

694
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: in again? But yeah, I will be very curious to

695
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: see when do Jones and Brents get back because that's needed.

696
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: And you know Ward has been kind of off and

697
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: on in terms of his availability here. You know, is

698
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: that just kind of management this time of year? And

699
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: well you really need him and Kenny to play. If

700
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: we've redid indispensable colts. What did I have was my list?

701
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Speaker 1: Ryman Zaire? Did I have a corner that hot? Maybe

702
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I did have Ward that high. Yeah, you can make

703
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: an argument to put Ward and Kenny both in your

704
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Speaker 1: top five.

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00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a little different than you

706
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 2: I have I remember having a law too. I had Bernard,

707
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: I had Nelson. I can't remember if I put Braydon

708
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Speaker 2: on there or not.

709
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Final questions from Josh. We often talk about

711
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson having a high ceiling but a low floor.

712
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm curious what you actually think his ceiling looks like

713
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 2: after a couple of years. Obviously, all the physical tools

714
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: are there and health is a concern, but I think

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Speaker 2: I'm most curious about your opinion on the mental and

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00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: intangible side of Anthony Richardson. Is there any precedent for

717
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: a quarterback developing that to a championship level later on

718
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Speaker 2: after a couple of years in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think in regards to like growth

720
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Speaker 1: from maturity standpoint, Yeah, I mean, I I there probably

721
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: is a little bit of precedent. They are. The problem

722
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: with Richardson, Josh, is that's like one layer. There's seven

723
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: layers to him. There's Monday through Saturday, there's accuracy, there's turnovers.

724
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Speaker 1: There is how much are you running it? How much

725
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: are you not running it? Obviously can you stay healthy?

726
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: It's like there's just so much to the parlay that

727
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: has to be hit. Now having said that, like in general,

728
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: with him playing football, you're not asking him to be

729
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: Drew Brees accurate or Philip Rivers accurate. If he could

730
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Speaker 1: get to fifty eight percent in my opinion, at the

731
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Speaker 1: level of if fifty eight percent is met with a

732
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: respectable turnover number, you can win with that. Yep, you

733
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: can win with that, And right now, that's probably the

734
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Speaker 1: highest I can go with his.

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Speaker 2: I think Chapel had him at fifty eight percent in

736
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: eleven on eleven team periods, right.

737
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: Which, again, in camp you need to be much higher

738
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: than that, like you need to be to me, you know,

739
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: you almost knock off ten percent from camp to a game,

740
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Speaker 1: because last year I think he was north of sixty

741
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken in camp there. So that is

742
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Speaker 1: kind of how I would baseline it. The problem with

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Speaker 1: defining his ceiling or like people that are like, hey,

744
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: he's got such a high ceiling and all that, we

745
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: sit here right now and we've yet to see him

746
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: play truly good to great football.

747
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 2: Yep.

748
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: Ever ever collegiately, you know, again Chris Ballard makes the

749
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: comparisons to Baker Mayfield and Sam I was like, wait

750
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: a minute, Baker Mayfield on the Heisman Trophy.

751
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 2: Yep.

752
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: Sam Donald threw for four thousand yards at one of

753
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: the best schools in college football. Yep, No, we can't

754
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: go there.

755
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: And so Jared Goff went to a Super Bowl or

756
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: he got traded to Detroit, right, So.

757
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: That's what I think makes it challenging. Of yes, there

758
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: are these just tantalizing elements to him, but it's largely

759
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: still yet to be ever seen collegiately, especially which I

760
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: think again kind of adds to all of it there.

761
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: But again, Josh, even if you don't want to say whatever,

762
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: that's an all pro level. If you can just live

763
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: in a what if he got to fifty eight percent,

764
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: which is not that ludicrous of an ask, No, if

765
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: he got there, and again, the turnovers were not as

766
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: problematic as they were last year. The Colts very well

767
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: could be a playoff team very well. So that's kind

768
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: of how.

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Speaker 2: You let me ask you this In conclusion here with

770
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: the way that Chris Ballard was aggressive in helping out

771
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 2: Louis and a room on the secondary with the selection

772
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Speaker 2: of Tyler Warren, and you mentioned the players that are

773
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: in doring a contract year next year if things don't

774
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: paint out with Daniel Jones or Anythingy Richardson this year,

775
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: are we going to see another situation where the next

776
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: general manager sees what we are currently discussing. They have

777
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: these guys that can make place, They have the foundation

778
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: to be a good team. We just need a you know,

779
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: a veteran quarterback in there. And we're back to the

780
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: endless cycle that was of band aid after a band

781
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: aid after band aid. Stop it.

782
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Speaker 1: Now, that's a sick thing to end on that. You

783
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: just drop that on me. No, no, I no, And

784
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: this gets you know, I debated a little bit. I

785
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you and I did, Eddie, but like

786
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, people right now are bringing up Michael Parsons

787
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: and Terry McLaurin. You know, those are the two big

788
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: names that people bringing up right now, and hey, insert

789
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: team here or should they enter that mix?

790
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: I thought we talked about it last week. Did a

791
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: Twitter question about it? Yeah, okay, Well just to reiterate it, the.

792
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Speaker 1: Colts are frozen.

793
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: Yes, you can't do that stuff.

794
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: You can't entertain that stuff without it. So whatever, Drew

795
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: Aller and Arch and Mendoza and the Carolina Yeah, that's

796
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: not like Leonora Sellers whoever, you want to dream about

797
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: Club Nick, you gotta be frozen. You just can't do it.

798
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate. It's a bummer, but that's the reality

799
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: that you are currently in right now. But no, no,

800
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: you no band aid it not stop that. I'm just

801
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: saying you imagine Jacoby Brissett quarterback in this team. Oh no,

802
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking like Carson Wentz out of retirement. Yeah, now

803
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Car's done. My brother sawm at Kroger the other day.

804
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just remember, by the way, what

805
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna mention earlier that I forgot. You said, uh,

806
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: avenue for the Colts to make the playoffs. You mentioned

807
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: a better quarterback play, better defensive play, and then an

808
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: underrated one was better pass catching a number four. They're

809
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: in the a S South.

810
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's the gift that keeps giving, baby, you know

811
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: what I say, God bless the AFC South.

812
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: And as we wrap up KB, I know people are

813
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: going to start wondering when we're doing the Fantasy Football

814
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: League and the pick'm that stuff coming out soon. We're

815
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: kind of finalizing the details on how we want to

816
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: give away the spots to the Fantasy Football still open.

817
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: Suggestions from people. We have debated a few Eddie's come

818
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: up with what I think is a pretty good idea,

819
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: but we're still open, so yeah, we'll probably provide that

820
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: info for you on an upcoming pod or two. So yeah,

821
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: slide into either of our dms for that if you

822
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: have any thoughts. He is Eddie Garrison. I am Kevin Bowen.

823
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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Colts Corner with Kevin Bowen.

824
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you probably Tuesday ish. Recap and a

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Speaker 1: trio of Colts Practice