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Speaker 2: One of the first is in twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: It's unprotected from the Pacers, and then there's another one

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Speaker 1: from this year that does have protections. The Pacers wanted

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Speaker 1: I'll season, that's what this has been about. They scoured

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Speaker 1: the market searching for centers, whether it was Daniel Gafford,

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Speaker 1: a Visa Zubach, Jeeves Missy. There was a laundry list

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Speaker 1: to find someone that Tyres Haliburton was going to be

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Speaker 1: from his torn achilles But this Tyres Haliburton a Visa

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Speaker 1: Zubach pairing is something the Pacers are very excited about.

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Speaker 3: It is now time to meet the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 4: No one has scored more points or kicked more field goals.

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Speaker 4: Twenty four seasons, four rings, one at my expense and

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Speaker 4: now run bust in the halls of Kim Adam Vinitari.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if anything happened over the week, over

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Speaker 5: the last twenty four hours. Good morning, James Boyd, Good

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Speaker 5: morning Kevin Bowen. Mark dyked a nice job as always.

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Speaker 5: When last we left you, we had a lingering question,

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Speaker 5: yesterday as opposed to when we see them tonight against

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Speaker 5: Benedict Matherin is gone and Evan Zubik is here, and

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Speaker 5: that's where we're at.

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Speaker 2: So you got Zubacs.

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Speaker 5: Now you've got a center, and now you've got something

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Speaker 5: in all, now that you've waited almost I don't know,

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Speaker 5: sixteen hours to talk about it, what are your thoughts? Uh?

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Speaker 6: Boy? Quite the Friday show, to say the least, they're

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Speaker 6: A Viza zubats, I think the pronunciation is right on

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Speaker 6: My thoughts are I get it, don't love losing, Ben

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Speaker 6: mc matheren. I get it. I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 6: I get it. And oh boy, Mother's Day. We warned

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Speaker 6: you a few weeks ago when the lottery date was announced.

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Speaker 6: Hug your mom before the sun goes down on Mother's Day, folks,

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Speaker 6: because you need to have what is it the rabbit's foot.

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Speaker 6: You need to have whatever you believe in from superstition,

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Speaker 6: because you need ping pong balls bouncing your way. The

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Speaker 6: and I can hear the debate. I've heard people say, hey,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think honestly, like you, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 5: But to me, that's what would make this deal worth

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Speaker 7: We can go back to Mark's question from yesterday, right,

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Speaker 7: Now we got to make sure that everything's in order,

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Speaker 7: That's kind of how I look at the gamble here,

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Speaker 5: If you want to know how excited the Pacers were

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I was actually over at the Pacers practice yesterday

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Speaker 6: If said player eats my team alive, we probably are

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Speaker 6: more thing I'll add, and I know we'll get more

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Speaker 5: All right, and of course, the Hall of Fame announced

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Speaker 5: Morning and welcome into the Fan Morning show on a Friday,

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Speaker 5: getting ready for the Super Bowl on Sunday. But man,

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Speaker 5: We'll start with the NBA and the Indiana Pacers didn't

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Speaker 5: trading deadline day. They acquired Viza Zubacs and Kobe Brown

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Speaker 7: I like the move. It is very aggressive and as

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Speaker 7: Kevin pointed out in the opening of the show Mother's Day,

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Speaker 5: We need to take all the moms that can get there,

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Speaker 2: What do you think of Vin, I'm all in.

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Speaker 6: To be clear, I don't know the paternity leave rules

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Speaker 2: By the end of the show, we need to know that.

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Speaker 5: And if you would like to hear Rick Carlisle with JMV.

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Speaker 5: National Football League Dad NFL honors. Last night they announced

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Speaker 5: It will include Adam Vinteri, former Colts kicker Drew Brees, Perdue,

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Speaker 5: All right, here's the rest of the awards list from

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Speaker 5: last night. The most Valuable Player for twenty twenty five

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Speaker 5: The AP Offensive Player of the Year Seahawks wide receiver

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Speaker 5: Defensive Rookie of the Year, Rounds linebacker Carson Schwessinger, Offensive

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Speaker 5: did you see this? Joe Thuney of the Bears is

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Speaker 5: We've got college basketball coming up tomorrow Indiana player Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, Florida State at Notre.

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Speaker 5: The women's official training in Milano, Cartina also for ski

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Speaker 5: and one oh seven five of the fan Happy Friday,

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Speaker 5: as we move into a new.

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Speaker 2: Reality for the Indiana Pacers.

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Speaker 5: As Tyrese Haliburton continues to sit out with the recovery

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Speaker 5: and the center that they've been missing since Myles Turner

434
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Speaker 5: left last summer appears to be on his way, and

435
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Speaker 5: we're looking forward to seeing Aviza Zubats when he plays

436
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 5: probably next week at some point in time, James, he's

437
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 5: on paternity leave right now, so won't be with them

438
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Speaker 5: in Milwaukee tonight, but it'll be interesting to see how

439
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 5: Rick Carlisle plays all this down the stretch. Knowing that

440
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Speaker 5: you've got protected picks one through four this year, the

441
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Speaker 5: best go about playing well but maybe not winning so

442
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Speaker 5: many games.

443
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Speaker 7: So this leads me to my question I'm looking at

444
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Speaker 7: the NBA's low management rules that were implemented a couple

445
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Speaker 7: of seasons ago. How are you tanking? And is that

446
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 7: the best? The best approach to that? We talked about

447
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 7: it briefly, Kevin, like do you want to win and

448
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 7: kind of get yourself out of the like the top

449
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 7: ten spot. If you get to the you know, number ten,

450
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 7: you get to keep your pick, you know if you

451
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Speaker 7: land at the number ten spot in the lottery, or

452
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Speaker 7: do you just go all in on tanking? And again,

453
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Speaker 7: how you do that? Because look at the rules right here.

454
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Speaker 7: This is for a star players, like it has it

455
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Speaker 7: specifically written you have to refrain from any long term

456
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Speaker 7: shut down when a star stops participating in games or

457
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 7: appears only in a materially reduced role that could affect

458
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 7: integrity of the game. That sounds like Pascal Siakam, How

459
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Speaker 7: are you going to manage him? Does he go from

460
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Speaker 7: playing thirty something minutes to twenty to eighteen? Does he

461
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Speaker 7: have an injury like I saw with Malcolm Brogden a

462
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Speaker 7: few years ago, where I think he had like achillesonon

463
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 7: night is for forever? But I say injured in air

464
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 7: quotes because everyone knew he was not going to play

465
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Speaker 7: again for the team, So how do you do this

466
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Speaker 7: without having a league mandate come down and you Now,

467
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Speaker 7: I will say they benefit from a lot of these

468
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Speaker 7: restrictions because a lot of it has to do with

469
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Speaker 7: nationally televised games. N season tournament games. N season tournament

470
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Speaker 7: is over, the Pacers are not going to be on

471
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Speaker 7: very many national TV games the rest of the year,

472
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Speaker 7: I would imagine. But that's my question.

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Speaker 6: Okay, let's try and explain this in the most elementary

474
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Speaker 6: way possible, yes, which I think is very difficult to do,

475
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Speaker 6: So feel free to tell me I'm being too confusing

476
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Speaker 6: to Okay, try to make it sound simpler, because I

477
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Speaker 6: think it's really hard to explain. The Pacers are thirteen

478
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Speaker 6: and thirty eight. They have thirty one games left this season. Yes,

479
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Speaker 6: they have the third worst record currently in the NBA.

480
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Speaker 6: That means if the lottery was today, they would have

481
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Speaker 6: a fifty two percent chance at a top four pick.

482
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Speaker 6: So you have a fifty two percent chance to keep

483
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Speaker 6: your pick right. If you are one, two, three four,

484
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Speaker 6: that pick is the Indiana Pacers pick come June.

485
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Speaker 5: Right.

486
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Speaker 6: If it's five, six, seven, eight nine, it goes to

487
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Speaker 6: the La Clippers. If it's ten the rest of the way,

488
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Speaker 6: it is also a Pacer pick. So again the odds

489
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Speaker 6: start to shrink if the Pacers start to win a

490
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Speaker 6: little bit. For example, right now, if you look at

491
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Speaker 6: the odds, it's very the top six teams of the

492
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Speaker 6: worst record are separated by four games, so it's very

493
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Speaker 6: close one through six. If the Pacers were to be

494
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Speaker 6: that team in the sixth spot, aka three more wins,

495
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Speaker 6: the fifty two percent number that I just shared for

496
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Speaker 6: a top four pick it goes to about thirty seven percent.

497
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Speaker 6: So if they start to win, your coin flip now

498
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Speaker 6: become one in every three, right, and so this is

499
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Speaker 6: the risk that you get into. Now. I have heard

500
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Speaker 6: some people say, well, they should actually try to win

501
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Speaker 6: and get all the way to the bottom of the lottery,

502
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 6: because again, if they get to number ten, they keep

503
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Speaker 6: their pick no matter what. They could strike lightning in

504
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Speaker 6: a bottle and hit on the whatever four percent chance

505
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Speaker 6: of getting the number one pick a lah Dallas last

506
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 6: year with Cooper Flag, or the more likely scenario is

507
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Speaker 6: they just keep their tenth pick because again, based off

508
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Speaker 6: how the odds work, they couldn't get to five, six, seven,

509
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Speaker 6: eight or nine if they sat there with the tenth

510
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 6: best odds entering the lottery. Now, right now, the tenth

511
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 6: best team in the league has twenty three wins. That

512
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 6: would be Portland tenth worst team. I should say the

513
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Speaker 6: Pacers have thirteen. Well, thirteen to twenty three is a lot.

514
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Speaker 6: I don't care who you're playing.

515
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Speaker 5: Especially when what we've only got three months left in.

516
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Speaker 6: The thirty one games left in the season. So I

517
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 6: feel like that kind of covers everything you know. Right now,

518
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 6: if you look at the odds again, it's a fifty

519
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 6: two percent chance at a top four pick you would retain,

520
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 6: just based off all the simulations. Right now, the best pick,

521
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Speaker 6: the most likely pick the Pacers would have, is actually six,

522
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 6: which would go to La. So again, I and.

523
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Speaker 5: That changes a lot like week to week two right now, it.

524
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Speaker 6: Does, but not as much as like the NFL. The

525
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Speaker 6: NFL is purely off of record, purely off of record,

526
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Speaker 6: just reverse order. The NBA in trying to lessen tanking,

527
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Speaker 6: which we all can laugh at as James reads off

528
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Speaker 6: the tanking rules. I know idea that are a load

529
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Speaker 6: management rules till James's right them off. The odds they

530
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Speaker 6: do shift Jeff, But they don't shift like drastically unless

531
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Speaker 6: you know. But I think that really really win or

532
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Speaker 6: really really lose again, right now, teams one, two, and three, Sacramento,

533
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Speaker 6: New Orleans, and Indiana, they all have the same odds

534
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 6: of getting in the top four. They all have the

535
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 6: same odds of getting the first overall pick. It's fourteen percent.

536
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 6: Currently right now, the Pacers have a fourteen percent chance,

537
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 6: which is the best odds. So if this were the NFL,

538
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 6: the Pacers would sit there with the third overall pick.

539
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 6: No debate with the NBA, they technically have the same

540
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 6: odds as the second worst team in the league and

541
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Speaker 6: the first worst team in the league.

542
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 7: So again, comple fight or not? That I think was

543
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 7: a good explainer.

544
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 6: What will we miss?

545
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 7: I don't think you missed anything. But then my addition

546
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 7: to that is, how do you keep losing? So can

547
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 7: you tell players? You can't tell players, you can't do

548
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 7: a Chaanci bills and say, hey, you know, let's get

549
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 7: a little funny with how we perform.

550
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 6: So let's start there is the best case scenario to

551
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 6: keep losing? Do you believe in the try to go

552
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 6: for the tenth pick at all?

553
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 7: I don't because I don't think it's realistic.

554
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 6: I don't think you're ten wins.

555
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think you can climb that far. I

556
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 7: think the most realistic way to maximize the trade you

557
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 7: just made is to lose. And I think they know

558
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 7: that as well. But I'm asking how do you do that?

559
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 5: I think you see a lot of quad strains, a

560
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 5: lot of sowred groins. I hurt my back sneezing this morning.

561
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 5: I think you see a lot of things like that.

562
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 5: I don't know how you get a player onto the court.

563
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 5: Once a player gets on the court, he's gonna try

564
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 5: to win.

565
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 6: You said zubots might play next week.

566
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 5: Do you believe that whenever he gets back from paternity

567
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 5: they're gonna have put him in the line up at

568
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 5: some point?

569
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 6: Well, are you taking or not?

570
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 7: But that's my question, like not necessarily, Like how like

571
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 7: investigate this? I'm serious, Like how does the NBA look

572
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 7: they because they know, sure they're gonna look at the

573
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 7: situation and say, this is an obvious move to lose,

574
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 7: But how organically do you make it look? And how

575
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 7: invested will the league be? And looking into that, because

576
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 7: you can't just do like you did ten years ago

577
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 7: and just sit a bunch of dudes like you can't

578
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 7: look at Pascalciakam without a medical injury and say, and.

579
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 6: What are the penalty we're gonna shut you finds probably fine,

580
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 6: and if it gets not worse, I would think that

581
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Speaker 6: they they could.

582
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 7: I would imagine that is a penalty that they could

583
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 7: implement if it gets to that point. But I'm just

584
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 7: very curious to see how you do it and how

585
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 7: good do you make it look, because we all know

586
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 7: you're trying to lose, and I get it. You can

587
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 7: rest certain guys, and they certainly will. But my whole

588
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 7: thing is I just don't necessarily see a scenario where Passcalciakum,

589
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 7: for example, doesn't play the last fifteen games of the year.

590
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 6: And just to remind everybody, if the Pacers were to

591
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 6: lose their pick five, six, seven, eight, or nine and

592
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 6: it goes to the Clippers, then the Clippers would later on

593
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 6: get the twenty thirty one first round pick for the Pacers.

594
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 6: So twenty twenty nine, no matter what is going to

595
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 6: the Clippers, that's unprotected, So no matter where it is

596
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 6: in the twenty nine draft. Obviously, in twenty twenty nine,

597
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 6: you're thinking the Pacers are a high level basket ball team.

598
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 6: So that's just a reminder. So basically you're looking at

599
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 6: if you want to mock draft it out, Let's say

600
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 6: the Big four Darren Peterson, AJ Debantsa, Caleb Wilson, Cameron Boozer.

601
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 6: Let's say those are your first four picks. That means

602
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 6: if it happened five through nine, the Pacers would be

603
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 6: missing out of the opportunity to draft Woggler, James's boy

604
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 6: from Illinois, Kingston Flemings point guard from Houston. There's an

605
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 6: Arizona guard Barrios that I see. His name, Actually pretty

606
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 6: pretty impressed when I watch him play. Elijah Renas James,

607
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 6: who we saw the other night. Yeah, with USC. You know,

608
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 6: I think he's potentially a guy kind of in that

609
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 6: in that top ten. Not a lot of bigs, but

610
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 6: those are some of the names. Mark, you had eyes

611
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 6: on us, like you had something.

612
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Speaker 8: Well, No, I was just saying, like my thought was,

613
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 8: I don't think they really have to try that hard

614
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 8: to like tank, Like we've watched this team all season, right, Like,

615
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 8: I know you're adding some pieces, but like I still

616
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 8: think the losses are gonna.

617
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 6: Come market They'll just had their best month of the

618
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 6: season with that too.

619
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Speaker 8: They just think that this is going to be some

620
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 8: like the NBA's first of all, the NBA, if they're

621
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 8: worried about tanking, then they need to figure out their

622
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 8: whole draft compensation thing, because oh, this is protected. If

623
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 8: it's this and this, it's either treated like a regular

624
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 8: draft pick, where once you trade a first round pick,

625
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter where it is it's traded, instead of

626
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 8: having all these protections on it.

627
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 6: So that's how you get out of the hole. Are

628
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 6: these teams tanking or not on purpose? That's how you

629
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 6: would fix that right out of the game.

630
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 8: If the Pacers just outright traded their twenty twenty six

631
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 8: first round pick, it wouldn't matter what they did the

632
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 8: rest of the season. But because there's all these protections

633
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 8: now they have to try to game the system a

634
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 8: little bit.

635
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: You're three wins away from your odds decreasing by about

636
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 6: twenty percent to get a top four pick. And again

637
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 6: they just would they go in January five hundred.

638
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, they had their best month of the year.

639
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 6: So yeah, this is I mean, it gets if you

640
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 6: look at their back half of the schedule. They play

641
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 6: a lot of these teams around them in the tank standing.

642
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 6: So again, there are other elements of this trade. I

643
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 6: do want to get into Zubats, Mather and et cetera,

644
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 6: et cetera. But I did feel the need that we

645
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 6: will want to try to pen and paper actual tanking

646
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 6: odds and explain a little bit of what this trade

647
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 6: does look like right now and what it could look

648
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 6: like here in a few months. And again, the draft

649
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 6: lottery is Mother's Day night.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other part of that.

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Speaker 5: Here, here's the when you to your point, Kevin, the

652
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Speaker 5: starting five is not bad for this team right now,

653
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Speaker 5: Like right now, if you start Zubots at center, and

654
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Speaker 5: then you've got Pascal Siakam, you've got Andrew Nemhart, You've

655
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Speaker 5: got aaron Ne Smith.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Do you start Jeris Walker the rest of the way.

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Speaker 5: That's not a terrible starting five, James. It's gonna beat

659
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Speaker 5: a lot of bad basketball teams.

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Speaker 7: I'm very curious to see what happens ENTI games in

661
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Speaker 7: the fourth quarter. Everybody, come on and sit next to me.

662
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Speaker 5: You got Ben Shephard and Micah Potter and power pack

663
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Speaker 5: in jam Jones out there.

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Speaker 7: You exit, Yeah, I mean I'm very curious. I had

665
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Speaker 7: a few people who were tagging me and JAMV saying, hey,

666
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Speaker 7: you guys are ready to play, and I was sinking

667
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Speaker 7: I could definitely lose you some games in the NBA.

668
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Speaker 5: Let's check the fan text line and see what's up there.

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Speaker 5: Two three, nine, ten, seventy.

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Speaker 2: Ryan here.

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Speaker 5: This avoided the worst possible outcome for the Pacers in

672
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Speaker 5: the offseason. The worst would have been Matherin leaves, forces

673
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Speaker 5: the Pacers to match and go deeper into the tax.

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Speaker 5: You fall out of the top four in the draft,

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Speaker 5: you don't have an answer at center. The trade got

676
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Speaker 5: value out of Ben Benedict and solve the center problem.

677
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Speaker 5: The trade does not impact the pick. It either is

678
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Speaker 5: top four or not.

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Speaker 6: I think the first part of it, I can nod

680
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Speaker 6: my head at again, did Benedict Matherin want to be

681
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Speaker 6: here now? Again? He's a restricted free agent, so there's

682
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Speaker 6: only so much there. But I do think that is

683
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Speaker 6: a question. You know, when this week started, I said

684
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Speaker 6: to you guys, as much as I love Matherin, this

685
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Speaker 6: team cannot afford to let a second guy walk without

686
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Speaker 6: getting anything in return. And by sayo, me and Miles

687
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Speaker 6: Turner being the first, and that's what you did here. Now,

688
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Speaker 6: I think the trade bait and the pick debate Ryan's

689
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Speaker 6: not given enough credence too, because as much as we

690
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Speaker 6: sit here and say, oh, this draft's only a four

691
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Speaker 6: person draft, let's go through the history of NBA drafts.

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Speaker 6: There are a lot of random picks or picks on

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Speaker 6: draft night that you didn't really think was something. Look

694
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Speaker 6: at the Halliburton draft. He's a perfect example of it.

695
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Speaker 6: Where was he eleventh, twelfth? And now look at that redraft.

696
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Speaker 6: The NBA draft is such a crapshoot.

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Speaker 7: I will say this though. I mean we went through

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Speaker 7: this actually a few years ago with the Pacers when

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Speaker 7: they got the number six pick for Bendict Mather ironically,

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Speaker 7: and I did it for Indy Star with Matt Newell.

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Speaker 7: If you look at the amount of all NBA All

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Speaker 7: Star players that are outside of that top five, once

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Speaker 7: you get past five in the in NBA history, it

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Speaker 7: drops off considerably. So I mean, while you can say, oh, well,

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Speaker 7: you know, Giannis was I think a number fifteen, and

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Speaker 7: Steph might have been like number seven or something like that,

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Speaker 7: it is very very rare that you get a franchise

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Speaker 7: altering player outside of the top five.

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Speaker 6: Sure, but let's look at the Pacers starting lineup. We

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Speaker 6: think the Pacers have a championship level team, not a

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Speaker 6: single one of their starters a top ten pick. I

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Speaker 6: agree with that. It just it's and that's why I

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Speaker 6: do the Jordan shrug a little bit here, and I

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Speaker 6: should say the security guard shrug of like it's hard

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Speaker 6: to truly predict. I mean, Woggler is a great example

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Speaker 6: of it in college basketball. Yeah, you know, four months

717
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Speaker 6: ago he was a whatever, a top two hundred recruit,

718
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Speaker 6: and now he's you know, stealing the Big ten, and

719
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Speaker 6: you know he theoretically has risen to be a top

720
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Speaker 6: ten guy Halliburton. I mean, you look at his Iowa

721
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Speaker 6: State career. No one would have pegged him to be this.

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Speaker 6: So that's where I think this trade is so much

723
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Speaker 6: unnote and I'm fascinated by. I mean, you know, again,

724
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Speaker 6: I've not that I'm watching every Clipper game, but Zubots

725
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 6: has just own the Pacers in his career, and I

726
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 6: find that so fascinating. Of like, if he didn't, I mean,

727
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Speaker 6: he dominated Miles Turner and it's kind of funny how

728
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Speaker 6: like now he's here doing really the exact opposite. Now,

729
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 6: we've talked about rebounding for the Pacers for a decade.

730
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Speaker 6: I mean I can remember being at the Pacers golf

731
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Speaker 6: outing over the brickyard one year. Nate McMillan's talking to

732
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Speaker 6: season ticket members and corporate people and he's like rebounding,

733
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Speaker 6: rebound and rebounding, and that's what three coaches ago, and

734
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Speaker 6: that has been the constant, and that's what Zobots is

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Speaker 6: going to bring. He is going to be an elite

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Speaker 6: level rebounder. He's going to be a guy that can

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Speaker 6: finish around the basket, I would say, much more efficiently

738
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Speaker 6: than Miles Turner. Now, the flip side is he's not

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Speaker 6: going to stretch the floor. And you know, if you

740
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 6: do recall when they traded for Pascal Siakam, what was

741
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Speaker 6: one of the first things Siaka mentioned about playing here

742
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Speaker 6: in Indiana. I'm really looking forward to having Miles Turner

743
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Speaker 6: next to me because that's a five man that stretches floor.

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Speaker 6: That's not Zubots.

745
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 5: Now.

746
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Speaker 6: He does other things very well offensively. But you know,

747
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Speaker 6: those are some of the questions that I do think

748
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Speaker 6: you are curious about.

749
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Speaker 5: John m texting in can we get Haliburton's mom to

750
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Speaker 5: represent the pacers at the lottery show.

751
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: That might not be a bad way to go.

752
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Speaker 6: How about his dad.

753
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: Put them both out there. I like that, James Duncan

754
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: texting in with the pacers. Lucky you already know we're

755
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Speaker 5: going to be the fifth pick. I bet it right

756
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Speaker 5: now if I could. People are not optimistic.

757
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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I got this text from a source. In

758
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Speaker 7: the response that I got asking about just the protections

759
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Speaker 7: on the pick, is it will be an anxious lottery

760
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Speaker 7: night excamation point?

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Speaker 6: Should they I'm asking the question, not answering it. I'm asking.

762
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Speaker 6: I'm asking it, and then I'm running. Should they have

763
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Speaker 6: just resigned Turner? You would have cost more money than

764
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Speaker 6: zuobots about eight ishmillion, So yeah, I want to acknowledge that,

765
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Speaker 6: but you would Now, let's say math probably the tacks

766
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Speaker 6: too right, right, Let's say Matthern walks, but you're keeping

767
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Speaker 6: your future first plural lee.

768
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Speaker 7: So you're saying, basically, if they swapped it, like if

769
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Speaker 7: Mathern had walked and you kept okay and you kept

770
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Speaker 7: Miles turning, you kept your picks. If you're asking me

771
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Speaker 7: right now today, that sounds like the better option. But

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Speaker 7: can't go back in time, right last night.

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Speaker 2: I guess in the afternoon yesterday, Rick Carlyle, I don't know.

774
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Speaker 5: Was he cheating on us guys by calling JMV yesterday.

775
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Speaker 10: I don't know.

776
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Speaker 7: Rick's been good to me. I can't say he was

777
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 7: cheating on him. He was giving the people what they need.

778
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Speaker 6: Yeah, in the marketing, I know, if we've earned the

779
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 6: right for our partner to be faithful to us, well.

780
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Speaker 2: He's almost that guy, don't have He's not ruled out

781
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Speaker 2: a road trip with you, Kevin.

782
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Speaker 6: Let's be honest. Have you seen how Jambs look lately?

783
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: I mean he's right behind you or here on the screen.

784
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Speaker 6: There's some worse side pieces out there.

785
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Speaker 5: I'll let you ponder that while we let you listening

786
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Speaker 5: to Rick Carlyle calling into JMV the first sixty seconds

787
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Speaker 5: or so of the things he had to say about

788
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Speaker 5: the trade.

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Speaker 10: With the departure of Miles Turner, we desperately need a quality,

790
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Speaker 10: high level starting center. We believe Zoobots is the top

791
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Speaker 10: ten center in the NBA. Conversations on this deal went

792
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Speaker 10: on for many days, and I would assume longer. This

793
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Speaker 10: is a great opportunity for all players involved. Ben has

794
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Speaker 10: grown so much as a player, Isaiah the same. I mean,

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Speaker 10: these guys are homegrown Indiana Pacer products. One guy's been

796
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Speaker 10: in his fifth year, one guy's in his fourth year.

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Speaker 2: And I'm proud to say that right now.

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Speaker 10: You know, as we speak, these two guys are in

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Speaker 10: the best possible position that they could be in to

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Speaker 10: move on to the next opportunity and really flourish. And

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Speaker 10: that's what we hope for them, And certainly we hope

802
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Speaker 10: the trade goes through and everything works out, but we're

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Speaker 10: excited to get Zubots and Kobe Brown's a young player

804
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Speaker 10: that people don't know a whole lot about, but this

805
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Speaker 10: would be a great opportunity for him.

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Speaker 6: One thing to note, there were some reports nationally, James,

807
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Speaker 6: I know if you saw this, that the Pacers tried

808
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Speaker 6: to trade for Walker Kessler of the Utah Jazz. I

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Speaker 6: believe the report from Chris Haynes was two unprotected first

810
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Speaker 6: round picks. I don't know if Matheren would have factored

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Speaker 6: into that deal. Kessler probably known as one of the

812
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Speaker 6: better young elite RIM protectors, currently out for the year

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Speaker 6: with a I think it was a shoulder injury maybe

814
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Speaker 6: with Utah there, but clearly they had center on their mind,

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Speaker 6: and we're ready to give up a lot, not just

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Speaker 6: for zobots.

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Speaker 7: I think this also says a message to Tyre's Halliburn,

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Speaker 7: letting them know, look, we believe in you, sure and

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Speaker 7: sure when you are back ready to hoop. Weren't be

820
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Speaker 7: ready to hoop for something meaningful when you are back

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Speaker 7: on the court. So I have to respect that and

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Speaker 7: shout Halliburton as well. I forgot to mention that in

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Speaker 7: the checkdown. What he had is I believe high school

824
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Speaker 7: jersey retired yesterday at Oshkosh North in Wisconsin. So he's

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Speaker 7: had a hit.

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Speaker 5: A hell of a day. Big day for that because

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Speaker 5: I thought, uh, didn't Brownsburg honor You were talking about

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Speaker 5: it yesterday and they honored Gordon Hayward last night.

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Speaker 6: I retired his jersey.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, coming up at a moment, Greg rag

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Speaker 5: Straw stops by. We'll get his thoughts on the latest

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Speaker 5: news and also the Hall of Fame, and know he's

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Speaker 5: pretty keenly aware of what's going on there. It's all

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Speaker 5: coming your way next at ninety three to five and

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Speaker 5: one oh seven five the Fan, it's.

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Speaker 7: The one and only Go double D.

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Speaker 12: As you were listening to a Fan Morning show on

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Speaker 12: Sports Radio ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 12: The Fan You Know the West is.

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Speaker 2: Backball you Happy Friday. Things have changed with the Indiana Pacers.

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Speaker 5: We found out about some awards and Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: inductees last night, or at least electees at this point

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Speaker 5: in time here to talk about all of that, maybe

844
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Speaker 5: even give us a look ahead to what's happening here

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Speaker 5: in Indiana over the weekend. Our good friend Greg rake Straw,

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Speaker 5: you can hear just about anywhere, see on a game

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Speaker 5: just about any night, and he is always welcome on

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Speaker 5: the set and the show here. Good morning, mister Rakestraw.

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Speaker 5: It's been a busy twenty four hours. How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, gentlemen, and I look forward to hearing you

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Speaker 3: describe the military action of the Pacers in the next

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Speaker 3: two months.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about the military action of the Indiana Pacers.

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Speaker 5: How would you describe it? Looking ahead?

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Speaker 3: I would describe it as one of my favorite James

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Speaker 3: Gardner movies from the early eighties. I would describe it

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Speaker 3: as the nickname for former Indiana Pacers forward Lasal Thompson.

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Speaker 3: I would describe it as how summiable of an Irish

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Speaker 3: you know accent, maybe pronounce the word thanks. I think

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Speaker 3: you get what I'm getting at here. It is tank time,

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Speaker 3: you know. I heard that It's gonna be a little

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Speaker 3: while before that beats the Zubots makes his PACER's debut

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Speaker 3: because he is on Paterna leave. I think they should

864
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: schedule that through April to fifteenth, just through tax season,

865
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: just to be ready, you know, and and make sure

866
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: everybody is properly you know, taxed and and things of

867
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 3: that nature. Now it is truly a race to the bottom,

868
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: because it should be a rocket right back to the

869
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: top of his basketball team next year.

870
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 7: So rig don't get me sorry on tax season, brother,

871
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 7: easily and one of my least favorite times of the year.

872
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: But imagine getting a paycheck from nine different people. There's

873
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: there's a blood letting in the Raketra household there.

874
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what I got. I got a couple

875
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 7: of W two's that are waiting on me. But as

876
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 7: far as the Pacers go, when you look at the

877
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 7: I guess sappiness of the move because in theory, you

878
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 7: gave up your first round pick, but you also put

879
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 7: a lot of protections on it. How much do you

880
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 7: think Chad bu Cannon, Team GM and Kevin Pritchards, the

881
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 7: team president, have earned maybe some trust and some grace

882
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 7: here given what they've done in the past with other trades.

883
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think they've done that by

884
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: I've virtue of the Pacers were a game away from

885
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: winning the World Championship in June before things went awry

886
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: from an injury standpoint, repeatedly over the course of the

887
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: last nine months. No, listen, this was sending and you know,

888
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: an asset that you're going to get nothing back for

889
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 3: in the off season, you know, getting something in return,

890
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: knowing that the way the Miles Turner situation played out

891
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 3: in the summer completely blew up on you and you had.

892
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 5: To remedy that.

893
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: And so you went out and got a piece that

894
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: both from a skill standpoint and from a financial standpoint,

895
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: it's exactly what you are needing now. I think we

896
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: all kind of when we first saw the details the

897
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 3: trade and you hear that this year's first round pick

898
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: could be going to the Clippers if it doesn't meet

899
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: certain parameters, you kind of had to brace for impact

900
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: when you read that for the first time, and you

901
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: went back and said, all right, one through four stays

902
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 3: here ten past years, stays here, got it so clearly

903
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: the PACER's breast. I think the top four players the

904
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: draft are pretty special, and there is a cliff or

905
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: there is a tier that once you go, you know

906
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: from four to five. And so this is this is

907
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 3: potentially having your cake and eat it too, where you

908
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: get your center position fixed, you love the top seven

909
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: or eight players your rotation, and maybe, just maybe you

910
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: end up getting a remarkably dynamic young talent and a

911
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: draft that those that follow it closer than I do

912
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: think might be the best of the generation.

913
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 6: Greg Raigstraw, of course he's with us here. A busy

914
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 6: night for boys hoops. We'll get to it in just

915
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 6: a second. Last night girls got sectional. Hopefully the mother

916
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 6: nature issues well, I guess stays north of us, but

917
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 6: obviously unpeck some of the state here with some snow

918
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 6: this morning, I do want to shift gears over to

919
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 6: the Colts. Late last night rake out of an and

920
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 6: Terry does get into the Hall of Fame. Frankly, I

921
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 6: thought he should have been a first balloder, but nonetheless

922
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 6: he's in on the second ballot for a seventh straight year.

923
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 6: Reggie Wayne doesn't get the call, and it doesn't sound

924
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 6: like he's close. Mike Chappell reported he did not even

925
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: make the top ten after that initial cut down to fifteen.

926
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 6: Why do you think Wayne is viewed in such Again,

927
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 6: I say negative light. I mean that when we're trying

928
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 6: to cut down to an actual Hall of Fame class.

929
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 11: I don't have a good answer for that.

930
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 3: But obviously we're also biased about it because we saw

931
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: the entirety of Reggie's career here in Indianapolis. I think

932
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: in this case he's almost penalized, you know, play with

933
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: a great quarterback for the first you know, ten years

934
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: of his career, and you know, and then he got

935
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: Andrew Luck obviously for the last three. So I don't

936
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: have a good answer to it other than ignorance. And

937
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: oftentimes we blame, you know, conspiracy, when it's incompetence that

938
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: we should be blaming Reggie. Wayne is absolutely a Hall

939
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: of Famer. He may have to go now through kind

940
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: of the Senior Committee or whatever it is being called,

941
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: because again, as more new names get out of the ballot,

942
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that his name is going to be

943
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: called anytime soon. He seemingly had a run on wide

944
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: receivers for a while, and now there has been some

945
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 3: pushback on that. But again I'm biased because because not

946
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: only did I cover Reggie, but much like UKB, I

947
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: know him personally, and I'm a big fan of Reggieaying

948
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 3: the person as much as Reggie Waying the wide receivers.

949
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: So I'm all for him being a Hall of Famer.

950
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna take a little while for it happens.

951
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 6: Though, Okay mentioned busy night of boys hoop saw Matt

952
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 6: Painter was in the building there to watch Asaiah Hill

953
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 6: over Price some others over at Pike and Ben Davis.

954
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 6: I believe you had Carmel and Llen. Did I see

955
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 6: Fishers got a scare last night? Again they did.

956
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: They have to go to overtime, And it's the related

957
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: it's a long ago third kind of game that somebody

958
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: has played them close, you know, since mid December. And

959
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: the reason I give that line of demarcation is that's

960
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: when Jason Gardner Junior got hurt. Was the game against

961
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: Hambleton's South Eastern. So yes, Westfield played them very close

962
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: and took them to overtime with Fishers ended up winning

963
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: that game by two. So that game was of note,

964
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, I had Carmel and l N and you know,

965
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 3: Carmel had lost your three consecutive games at home, all

966
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: two teams ranked above them in the state of Indiana,

967
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: and finally Bucks that trend with their sixty to forty

968
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: three victory over Laurence orthanid.

969
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 5: Ago Greg Greg Shraw joining us on the Payloff Slickers

970
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 5: hotline right now. Thoughts on Gordon Ayward being honored last night.

971
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 5: It is high school alma mater, Brownsburg where he led

972
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 5: them to I think it was a two thousand and

973
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: eight state championship.

974
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: Correct, and I feel all that was eighteen years ago.

975
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: So goodan Brownsburg for recognizing Gordon. Obviously, he kind of

976
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: had to wait till his you know playing days for

977
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: over with to kind of get him back unless we

978
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: gonna do that, you know over kind of an NBA

979
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: All Star weekend. But one of the great moments of

980
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: Indiana high school basketball history the shot that he hit

981
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: on the on the long distance pass to get past

982
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 3: married in the four A Championship game.

983
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 7: I'll tell you this, Rake, when you look at some

984
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 7: of the talent around here and boys basketball this year

985
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 7: and the way Fishers just continues to roll, at least

986
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 7: with their regular season winning streak. I mean, I know

987
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 7: people accept them to bloo every team out, but to

988
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 7: win some of these games close fashion, What does that

989
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 7: say about what they have built as far as just

990
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 7: like kind of their mental fortitude, because you look at

991
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 7: who they have and yeah, they have a lot of talent,

992
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 7: but they're not like Greg Odin and Mike Conley, you

993
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 7: know what I mean, Like they have you know, a

994
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 7: different level of talent. It kind of reminds me in

995
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 7: a way, perhaps the Ben Davis team from a couple

996
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 7: of years ago.

997
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: Right, well, I had Fishers on Saturday night when they

998
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: won at Carmel by three, and it was the first

999
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: time I had had that is early December. And so

1000
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 3: in that time you added a player in Ethan Hillsman

1001
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 3: young man that transferred in from the Chicago area and

1002
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: started playing right around Christmas time. But what struck me,

1003
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: and it makes sense when you think about it, we're

1004
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: kind of what the guys say, four or five, six,

1005
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: seven at eight on the roster were able to do

1006
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: because when the season began, they had you know, Zachary

1007
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: and Gardner, the duo that seems like I've been there forever,

1008
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: but have now been a part of this three year

1009
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 3: run that are combined seventy eight and two. Then you

1010
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: bring in Ky McGrew from Lawrence Northy, like, hey, those

1011
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: are three phenomenal players and three kids that will be

1012
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: Indiana All Stars this year or next. Everybody else was

1013
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: very inexperienced, but guys like John John Lum and Levi

1014
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: Walker and the Breelan brothers all have stepped up and

1015
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: kind of up their game and just understandably so have

1016
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 3: kind of grown into roles where they were fringe rotation

1017
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: players last year. Our kids that were playing on the

1018
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: JV so in watching Fishers play twice early and then

1019
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: seeing them again in late January. It was what those

1020
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: other guys were doing that they weren't doing at the

1021
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: start of the season that really kind of caught my attention.

1022
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 5: Greg Hall of Fame announced last night for the twenty

1023
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 5: twenty sixth class Adam d and Tiri and Drew Brees

1024
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 5: in with some local ties. Nothing there happening yet for

1025
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 5: Reggie Wayne and Frank Gore. What are your thoughts on

1026
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 5: what you saw last night?

1027
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: You know, again we're we're getting to this this kind

1028
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: of uh, you know, back hall of players, because you know,

1029
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: this class had some pretty notables in terms of first

1030
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: time eliltiple guys, and next year you probably play say

1031
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: a similar thing. You know, it's it's interesting we have

1032
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: we have claimed Vin Terry having played more of his

1033
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 3: career here than he did in New England. But at

1034
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: the same time, you know, Frank Gore will get in

1035
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 3: at some point in time just because number, his numbers

1036
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: and his longevity are so staggeringly good. How much will

1037
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: Colts fans embrace Frank knowing that the time that he

1038
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: played here frankly Colts weren't very good, and so when

1039
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: he makes it in, it'll be very curious to see

1040
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: exactly the uh, the the level of hug that Central

1041
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: Indiana gives him to claim him as one of their own,

1042
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: knowing that you know, primarily his days in the National

1043
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 3: Football League or still be identified as more of a

1044
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine er than anything else.

1045
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 2: Always good to talk to you, buddy, Have a great weekend.

1046
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: And what's your schedule look like?

1047
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 11: Again?

1048
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: Remarkably a night off tonight because of the schedule changing

1049
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 3: because the girls the boys games are kind of featured

1050
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 3: on Thursday night and Saturday afternoon on Girls Sectional week.

1051
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: I will have the Sectional final from Carmel, likely HC

1052
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: against one of Carmel or Zion's will tomorrow night at

1053
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: seven o'clock.

1054
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: Sounds good, buddy, have a good one, enjoyant, stay safe

1055
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 5: and we'll talk to you soon.

1056
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 11: Thanks Ray, Thanks Bett, you got it, guys.

1057
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: Greg greg stra joining us on the pay Less Liquors

1058
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: Hotline right now.

1059
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you start, you start feeling older when you

1060
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 5: see like Gordon Hayward is out of the NBA now

1061
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 5: and it was two thousand and eight when he hit

1062
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 5: that shot for Brownsburg.

1063
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 6: Never good sign when you need to remind me of

1064
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 6: the year I graduated high school. James Boyd, I know

1065
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 6: you got to run here in a few the aspect

1066
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 6: to this trade you liked the most, and then your

1067
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 6: biggest question about the trade.

1068
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: I like that.

1069
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 7: The the player is only twenty eight, very durable, and

1070
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 7: the contract is very team friendly. I know NBA money

1071
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 7: is crazy now, so people look at the raw number,

1072
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 7: it's like, oh my gosh, he makes twenty million dollars

1073
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 7: too much for an NBA salary for a center of

1074
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 7: his caliber. That is a very fine contract. Over the

1075
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 7: next few years. And then the part that I probably

1076
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 7: don't like or gives me the most pause is obviously

1077
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 7: the possibility of not getting that twenty twenty six first

1078
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 7: round pick, because you basically made it a coin flip

1079
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 7: at least right now, to land the number, the top

1080
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 7: four pick, or to not have that pick. I think

1081
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 7: that's a big, big difference in how you, you know,

1082
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 7: go about your future. I mean, it's all great if

1083
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 7: you get that top four pick. If you do not,

1084
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 7: then obviously that's that's a blow to you for sure.

1085
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: Where are you ahead of this morning? You're doing something

1086
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: kind of fun and cool today, right, Yeah.

1087
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 7: Shout out to my guy, Bryson Hill over at Ben Davis.

1088
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 7: He is a young broadcaster. I have seen him at

1089
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 7: a number of games over the last couple of years. Actually,

1090
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 7: I did not go last night because watching NFL Honors,

1091
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 7: I was very tempty to neglect my responsibilities on the

1092
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 7: NFL side to go watch a good high school game.

1093
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 7: But yeah, he reached out wanted me to come on

1094
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 7: his radio show, and I told him I'll make it happen.

1095
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 7: And I was supposed to it last week, got sick

1096
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 7: and I told him on Man of my word, we'll

1097
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 7: be there, so I'll see him in about forty five

1098
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 7: minutes or so to discuss Super Bowl other things. I

1099
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 7: would imagine to mister John Easter as well at Ben Davis.

1100
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 7: A great human being and a dude that is a

1101
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 7: lot to I think encourage people to get into our field.

1102
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 8: Just shot it on by Rick Carlisle yesterday, cheot on

1103
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 8: by James Boyd today.

1104
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 6: Man, I'm just scoring left and right. Ill like go

1105
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,959
Speaker 6: that my dad used to teach Wayne Township for about

1106
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 6: thirty years. And what I see over there from May broadcast,

1107
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 6: I mean, and I'm going back to the collaboro Kevin

1108
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 6: Lee days. But what I see over there is awesome,

1109
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 6: so really cool for those students over the West Side

1110
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 6: to experience that.

1111
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 5: I just spent about half my saturday at Ben Davis

1112
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 5: this past weekend watching my son and he was in

1113
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 5: the state music competition with saxophone, which he did okay,

1114
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 5: but tomorrow and piano is where he's really looking forward

1115
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 5: to doing something. So yeah, it's been a Ben Davis nice,

1116
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 5: nice high school over there.

1117
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 7: Oh absolutely cool man.

1118
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 5: All right, that'll be fun, have a good time there meantime,

1119
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 5: before you get out of here for those just joining us.

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00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 5: Big trade yesterday obviously the Pacers pick up of each

1121
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 5: A Zubach and Kobe Brown from the Los Angeles Clippers

1122
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 5: for Benedict Mather and Isaiah Jackson and some draft pick

1123
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: possibilities before we go for the folks. Just tuning in

1124
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 5: your thoughts on the big guy coming over to be

1125
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 5: with the Indiana Pacers and how do they play this

1126
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 5: the rest of the year.

1127
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 7: James, Well, like I said, I like the trade. I

1128
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 7: think that it's aggressive, and I think beyond the implications

1129
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 7: of where the ping pong balls fall come Mother's Day,

1130
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 7: and lord knows, a lot of Pacers fans wanted to

1131
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 7: be in that top four. Beyond that, I think you

1132
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 7: sent a message to Tyres Halliburn and the rest of

1133
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 7: your team, tyree'se Pascal and others. Look, man, this was

1134
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 7: a one off year, going to go for it again

1135
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 7: as soon as Halliburton is healthy. So I know he

1136
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 7: asked you very excited about that opportunity. And I get

1137
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 7: that Zubots doesn't shoot the ball like Miles Turner a

1138
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 7: few centers actually do, but I still think the offense

1139
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 7: will be very, very good with Zubots considering how good

1140
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 7: of a screener he is, how good of a roller

1141
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 7: he is he's finishing around the basket. I just think

1142
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 7: it'll look different.

1143
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1144
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 7: Maybe the process isn't the same, Jeff, but when we

1145
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 7: get done cooking up in the kitchen, you'll like the meal.

1146
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 5: You think that Tyre's Halliburton is looking forward to the

1147
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 5: pick and roll possibilities with zbots right now.

1148
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 6: He yeah, wall, well you're not moving that, dude. Yeah,

1149
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 6: I mean from a picking yeah, it's pick and roll,

1150
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 6: you know. Again, it was picking pop with Turner and

1151
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 6: now it's the role with Zubots. So yeah, I do

1152
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 6: think there is some intrigue there, certainly, And you know,

1153
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 6: from a starting lineup standpoint, I mean again, the biggest

1154
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 6: thing he's going to bring is an actual paint presence

1155
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 6: with physicality, and I would argue it's been quite some

1156
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 6: time since the Pacers had that. Miles Turner is a

1157
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 6: very skilled individual, but he ain't that I mean, honestly,

1158
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 6: think a little old school. He was a little bit

1159
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 6: of a throwback center is what Zubats is. And again,

1160
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 6: from a rebounding standpoint, you know, creating extra possessions from

1161
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 6: an offensive rebounder. You know that is going to be

1162
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 6: an element to his game defensively. Is a guy that's

1163
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 6: been on some all defensive teams and you know he's

1164
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 6: not some you know whatever weak side shot blocker, crazy

1165
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 6: that type of presence, but just resistance and you know

1166
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 6: we Monday night to me was just so fitting. And James,

1167
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 6: you you hit the nail on the head very early

1168
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 6: Tuesday morning, Like you watch that game against the Rockets.

1169
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 6: Benedick Matheren has arguably the best game he's had in

1170
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 6: the Pacers uniform. And the Pacers also look like you know,

1171
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 6: Mark Dyton could have been playing center for them and

1172
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 6: offered the same amount of resistance against miss Mark.

1173
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 7: You got six fouls in your brother absolutely, how long

1174
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 7: do you think of how long do you think it'd

1175
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 7: take care.

1176
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 8: Of Mark's wrestling background? Hell yeah, have a bark in there.

1177
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 8: How many how many minute in the Boston Crab? How

1178
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 8: many minutes does he play before he fouls out?

1179
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 11: Though?

1180
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 2: Three?

1181
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 3: Four?

1182
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 6: With how some of the Pacers right on you there,

1183
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 6: So basically.

1184
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 5: One media time out to the next.

1185
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 6: You're not gonna get bullied like you got bullied on Monday.

1186
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 6: I mean you flat out got bullied. I mean, sending

1187
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 6: Good out a career game against you like that stuff

1188
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 6: is not going to happen.

1189
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: So he got thrown out of a game last night,

1190
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: didsh and Good? Yeah, he was well.

1191
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,479
Speaker 6: Him and Maddison got into it Monday night.

1192
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 5: Saying nasty stuff to one of the female referees and

1193
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 5: they threw him out.

1194
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 6: By the way, I will say, just an observation that

1195
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 6: had yesterday being at PACER's practice again, I'm not on

1196
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 6: the daily beat, Dustin to Pierre Ac Tony East aar

1197
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 6: and they did happen to see Isaiah Jackson walking out

1198
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 6: of the facility and just shout out to Isaiah Jackson,

1199
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 6: who went out of his way to go and talk

1200
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 6: to Dustin and Tony, and you could clear there's a

1201
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 6: very mutual respect with that and Isaiah Jackson. You know,

1202
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 6: we don't really talk about him. I mean that was

1203
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 6: a top twenty five draft pick. Yeah, it was a

1204
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 6: guy that was part of that Kentucky group that you're

1205
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 6: always kind of like, well, look at some of these

1206
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 6: Kentucky players and what they do in college or was

1207
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 6: what they do the NBA, and it's pulling opposite and

1208
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 6: obviously he dealt with the torn Achilles and Rick Carlisle

1209
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 6: was always very high on Isaiah Jackson there. So Ben

1210
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 6: mcmatheren is going to get plenty of opportunities to dominate

1211
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 6: the ball out there in LA. But Isaiah Jackson I

1212
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 6: don't pretend to know him well at all, but always

1213
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 6: seemed like a really good dude.

1214
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 7: I can speak to that for sure. Very solid dude,

1215
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 7: win lose whatever, always available to the meet, at least

1216
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 7: in my experiences covering the team, and someone who never

1217
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 7: really made it more than what it is. By that,

1218
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 7: I mean sometimes they can get a little you know,

1219
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 7: head buddy when it comes to the media and player

1220
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 7: that the frustrating losses or whatever the case, maybe even

1221
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 7: him an injury, but very good dude, I mean even

1222
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 7: throughout the whole finals run last year. Just assault the

1223
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 7: Earth guy.

1224
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 5: Here's one oddity that kind of demonstrates just how volatile

1225
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 5: the NBA can be sometimes with player movement and everything else.

1226
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 5: Kawhi Leonard is now the most tenured player on the

1227
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Clippers, been with that team longer than anybody

1228
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 5: else on that team.

1229
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 7: It is crazy to say, I guess has been a

1230
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 7: few years.

1231
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 5: May how long ago was it when Toronto and he

1232
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 5: and Pascal won that NBA championship.

1233
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I also wonder like, will he ever get punished

1234
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 7: for will the team ever get punished for circummitting the cap?

1235
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 7: I mean, well, that's a big story, but that never happened.

1236
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 6: I think, James, there are some people think this trade

1237
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 6: is an indicator that they believe they will get punished. Yeah,

1238
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 6: they will have to give up draft picks yeah, down

1239
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 6: the road, and so they're trying to stockpile them. Yeah.

1240
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 7: Interesting, But boy, I mean, how long does the investigation take?

1241
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 7: The man made the All Star team before he got punished?

1242
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 3: Well, what do we do?

1243
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 7: Where are these trees?

1244
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 12: Kawhi?

1245
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 7: Where are these trees?

1246
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 2: Mark?

1247
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 5: Let's check it down and let everybody know exactly what's

1248
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 5: going on if you're just tuning in the team.

1249
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 9: The Voiding shut Down brought to you by the Barbasol

1250
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 9: Horizon League Basketball Championships, Mars Stars Year, the Barbersol Horizon

1251
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 9: League Basketball Ship bnhgfs L turning its online March eight

1252
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 9: through tens, tickets and more at how Rising League dot

1253
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 9: com slashing Indeed, Oh.

1254
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: You've heard us talking about it all morning long.

1255
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 5: Here are the particulars Pacers make a trade yesterday prior

1256
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 5: to the trade deadline. They pick up Avicha Zubats from

1257
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 5: the Los Angeles Clippers, along with Kobe Brown for Benedict Matherin,

1258
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 5: Isaiah Jackson, a twenty twenty six first round pick that's

1259
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 5: protected for the Pacers one through four, unprotected five through nine,

1260
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 5: and the Pacers would get it back if it's ten

1261
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 5: or above. Also a twenty nine first round draft pick,

1262
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 5: and a twenty eight second round pick. What you need

1263
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 5: to know about Zubats fifth and rebounding right now in

1264
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 5: the NBA at eleven per game, a sixty one percent shooter,

1265
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 5: averaging fourteen point four points per game. Former second round

1266
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 5: pick jb in the midst of his second straight season

1267
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 5: averaging a double double.

1268
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, yeah, I believe it was all NBA Defensive

1269
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 7: second Team last year. So very good defensively, not really

1270
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 7: much of a shot blocker, but ya moving that dude either.

1271
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 5: You're not shooting from three point range unless the clock

1272
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 5: is winding down. He's a last attempted a three pointer

1273
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 5: Kevin in the twenty twenty one season. It's the last

1274
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 5: time even put one up.

1275
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 6: I did see on Instagram last night he was enjoying

1276
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 6: a nice glass of whiskey. Certainly whiskey is not in

1277
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 6: the bow in household and a cigar? Does that mean

1278
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 6: I'm celebrating my new traders? That mean I'm a four

1279
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 6: day old father.

1280
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: All of it probably have the cigars left over from

1281
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 2: celebrating as a father.

1282
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 6: He is officially out for tonight's game. I don't think

1283
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 6: that's a surprise. Honestly, if I don't think he was

1284
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 6: the recent father, I don't think he'd be playing anyways.

1285
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 6: But yeah, we'll see.

1286
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: What is it?

1287
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 2: Back to back?

1288
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 6: I want to say Sunday, maybe in Toronto. Then they

1289
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 6: got a back to back Monday Tuesday, four games before

1290
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 6: the All Star break here for the Pacers, all on

1291
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 6: the road, and we will wait what the approach is

1292
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Speaker 6: for the Pacers. Given the restrictions on that draft pick,

1293
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 6: and if you missed it earlier seven thirty segment, we

1294
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 6: try to educate as simple as we could the pick

1295
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 6: protections and what this trade currently looks like and what

1296
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 6: it could look like based off that.

1297
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 5: Matheren, by the way, drafted sixth overall by Indiana back

1298
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two. He'd been a mainstay for the Pacers,

1299
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 5: obviously just twenty three years old.

1300
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: These averaging career highs.

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01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 5: Right now, it's seventeen and a half points and three

1302
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 5: point shooting at thirty seven points seven percent. Rick Carlisle

1303
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 5: wanted to say really nice things about Benedict Matherin as

1304
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 5: they ship him out to LA.

1305
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 10: His last four games this past week and some of

1306
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 10: the best basketball he's played. He's grown as a guy

1307
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 10: that has adapted to a style that really is becoming

1308
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 10: v style in the NBA. You know, there have been

1309
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 10: ups and downs. There are ups and downs with all

1310
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 10: young players, but at this moment, I'm proud to say

1311
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 10: I just believe that he's the best equipped he's ever

1312
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 10: been for the next chapter. And it was very possible

1313
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 10: that chapter could have been here, but you know, this

1314
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 10: is an opportunity that neither franchise could pass on. And

1315
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 10: so you know, assuming everything goes well with the physicals

1316
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 10: and logistics, this will be a win win, do you

1317
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 10: knows it?

1318
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 6: All? Right?

1319
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 5: So that was Rick Carlisle meeting with the media right

1320
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 5: after that trade announced yesterday. Indiana's got the worst record

1321
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 5: in the East, number twenty two right now, and rebounds

1322
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 5: per game there're tied with Milwaukee tonight's opponent for number

1323
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 5: twenty eight in rebound percentage this season.

1324
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: That will obviously help them.

1325
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 5: There also Janni Santana Kupo from Milwaukee Bucks not going anywhere,

1326
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 5: staying put for now. You'll not see him tonight. He's

1327
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 5: still dealing with an injured calf in the National Football League.

1328
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 5: The Pro Football Hall of Fame announced that's inductees for

1329
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. Out of military, the former Colt Drew Brees,

1330
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 5: the former Purdue boiler Maker Larry Fitzgerald, the wide receiver

1331
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 5: running back Roger Craig, linebacker Luke Keikley have all gotten

1332
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 5: in the way continues for Reggie Wayne. Frank Gore feels

1333
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 5: like it's gonna be a while for Reggie Wayne.

1334
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. Mike Chapell joined us at nine to discuss more

1335
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 6: of this. But chap mentioned that Reggie Wayne wasn't even

1336
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 6: in the top ten. So basically there's fifteen finalists, they

1337
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 6: cut to ten, then they cut to seven vote on

1338
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 6: the seven. Off of that, So the four modern era

1339
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 6: names you just mentioned, Jeff Breeze, Fitzgerald, Veneri Keikley those

1340
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 6: year four. So Wayne didn't even get to the seven. Well,

1341
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 6: definitely the seven, and he didn't get to the ten either,

1342
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 6: so Frank Gore did for example. So Yeah, Unfortunately, I

1343
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 6: think it's gonna be a lot more time for Reggi Wayning.

1344
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 5: All Right honors last night Most Valuable Player Matthew Stafford

1345
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 5: just a few votes more than Drake May, Offensive.

1346
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 6: Players one vote more. I think I saw the closest

1347
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 6: since Steve McNair and Peyton Manning co MVPs.

1348
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: Breeze sixty six to three sixty one.

1349
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 9: Shu.

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Speaker 7: You asked Mike Chapel about that. He's still kind of

1351
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 7: mad because I believe Indianapolis did not have a vote

1352
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 7: that year for MVP when it came down to the

1353
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 7: top betweeny, Steve mcannaer, and Payon Manning. So if they

1354
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 7: had had one, that one person, being my chap well,

1355
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 7: I'd imagine that would have been paid Manny.

1356
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 6: Maybe he would have sold the villain then voted for

1357
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 6: Steve McNair.

1358
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 7: No, you never know with the with these Hall of

1359
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 7: Fame voters we have like.

1360
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: Rust and p Steve McNair Jackson.

1361
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 6: Had twenty four first police votes, Drake May twenty three,

1362
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 6: Josh Allen two, and then someone randomly gave Justin Herbert One.

1363
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: There you go.

1364
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 5: Always want in the crowd Jackson Smith and Jigba is.

1365
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 5: The offensive player of the Year Miles Garrett, the Defensive

1366
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 5: Player of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year is

1367
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey, and the Walter Payton NFL Man of the

1368
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 5: Year Bobby Wagner. So that's what's happening in the world

1369
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 5: of sports. We got a lot of college basketball coming

1370
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 5: up tomorrow. We'll start covering that with a chat the

1371
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 5: head coach the Butler basketball team, Dad Mada. Next, it's

1372
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 5: ninety three five and one oh seven five. There we go,

1373
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 5: coming out strong as we get ready to talk some

1374
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 5: college basketball and Butler basketball with head coach Tad Mada

1375
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 5: coming up in just a moment here, big day coming

1376
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 5: up tomorrow as we start, look, February is where you

1377
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 5: make your your seed or not. If you're in Indiana

1378
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 5: and you want to get in. If you're Purdue, you

1379
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 5: want to get above that four or three line. Now

1380
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 5: is when you're gonna start winning basketball games.

1381
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 6: Kevin, Yeah, and that produce is gonna be a massive favorite.

1382
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 6: Oregon has had an awful year, Wisconsin has started to

1383
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 6: play better lately, and you're kind of curious how Indiana

1384
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 6: will react to the first game back out west. So

1385
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 6: again that's noon, and then one o'clock we're doing an

1386
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 6: organ and then Butler at Marquette two.

1387
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 8: So I just talked to Fad model. He has got

1388
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 8: no voice, oh like literally zero, he was. He was

1389
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 8: struggling to even talk. I said, Coach, let's punt to

1390
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 8: next week. Rest the voice of this isn't life for

1391
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 8: death here.

1392
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 5: We could have we could have translated, we could have

1393
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 5: asked questions and translate was rough.

1394
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 6: I said, please rest your voice. We'll reconvene next week.

1395
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 6: I find it admirable from humans. Thank you. Thad made

1396
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 6: for that that, like come on our show. Yeah, you know,

1397
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 6: give up their precious time to do that. And then

1398
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 6: like I'm looking through the window and Mark's like talking

1399
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 6: with him for like a it over there. Yeah, it's like, Mark,

1400
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 6: did you want to end up and be like coach,

1401
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 6: I get it. You don't need to explain yourself whatsoever.

1402
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 6: Throw lozenger it up and safe travels to Wisconsin. Pretty much. Yeah,

1403
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 6: I was like, please rest up. We don't need you.

1404
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 8: I mean, we'd love to have you, but I mean,

1405
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 8: your voice is much more important for your team than

1406
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 8: us right now.

1407
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I suppose what they've got coming up, they

1408
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 5: play at Marquette tomorrow, and look, if they have any

1409
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 5: designs on trying to get something going, they do have

1410
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 5: Yukon at home coming up on the eleventh, maybe kickstarter

1411
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 5: a little bit of a run there. I don't know

1412
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 5: what they're they're gonna be like, but it kind of

1413
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 5: feels like Butler is kind of who they are right now, right.

1414
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the injuries starting a pilot you on one

1415
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 6: question I wanted to ask that was any update on

1416
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 6: Stink Robinson and that left wrist injury. We saw him

1417
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 6: miss the game against Providence over the weekend. By the way,

1418
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 6: Big East wives one of my favorite games of the

1419
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 6: year tonight Yukon against Saint John's. These two teams are hot,

1420
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 6: very hot right now. How much of that is just

1421
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 6: the rest of the Big East. How much of that

1422
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 6: is we know? Yukon I think could be playing right

1423
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 6: here in Indianapolis first week April. I think a lot

1424
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 6: of people thought preseason Saint John's could and now they're

1425
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 6: starting to play like that. So that's a great, great

1426
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 6: game coming up tonight, and in general, here we are

1427
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 6: February sixth. We have two undefeated teams left. Arizona May

1428
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 6: have a high I believe I saw the stat earlier

1429
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 6: this week. It's just a fifth time in the last

1430
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 6: thirty years we've reached at this point of the season

1431
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 6: and we've had two undefeated teams. Oh, did you see

1432
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 6: what Michigan did to Penn State last night? Did you

1433
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 6: see the final score?

1434
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 5: I did see the final score. I saw at like

1435
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 5: the halftime score, and it didn't pay much attention after that.

1436
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 6: One hundred and ten to sixty nine. Michigan is beating

1437
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 6: the breaks off of like teams that have pulses, like

1438
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 6: budget teams. Now the Penn State's got a big budget.

1439
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 6: But I mean they smoke Gonzaga earlier this year, they

1440
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 6: smoked Auburn earlier this year. Villanova they ran off the floor.

1441
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 6: I mean, Dusty May has got quite the squad up there.

1442
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 6: Last week Friday night game was awesome. Michigan Michigan State.

1443
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 6: Tonight we'll get Yukon and Saint John's the eight o'clock tip.

1444
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, you look at the Big East too,

1445
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 5: And this is one of the things I'm going to

1446
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 5: talk to Fat about the top two teams are in

1447
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 5: a different world right now. Yukon they've they're twenty two

1448
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 5: to one. They're looking really good right now. Saint John's

1449
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 5: has turned the corner. As you said, they're really starting

1450
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 5: to play well and they've only got one loss in

1451
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 5: Big East play. They're ten and one now and they're

1452
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 5: suffocating on defense. It's not out of the realm of

1453
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 5: possibility that Yukon and Saint John's could both get to

1454
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 5: at least the Elite eight.

1455
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 6: Oh for sure. Yeah, easily on that end.

1456
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: Easily.

1457
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 5: So it's not like, you know, the Big East does

1458
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 5: have some really good teams in Villanova's kind of they're good.

1459
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how good they are.

1460
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 5: But here's the crazy part at four and eight because

1461
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 5: largely because you can on, Saint Johns and Villanov have

1462
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 5: dominated the rest of the league. Butler at four and eight,

1463
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 5: they are only two games out of the fourth spot

1464
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 5: in the Big East right now.

1465
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 2: Seaton, Hall and Creighton are tied at six and six

1466
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: for the fourth spot.

1467
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 5: Right now, Butler is four and eight. It's not inconceivable

1468
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 5: that they could make a run to be in the

1469
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 5: top five in the Big East, which would be good

1470
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 5: for seating later on in that tournament, but you know

1471
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 5: it's clearly a two team race. Yukon Saint John's all.

1472
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 6: Throw the same question through to James. You like what

1473
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 6: the most about the Aviza Zubats.

1474
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 2: Trade rebounding and some toughness. That's the one thing.

1475
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 5: As mentally tough as the Indiana Pacers were last year,

1476
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 5: I thought they were missing some physical toughness. Not that

1477
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 5: they don't have guys that are tough but itself, but

1478
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 5: you need that. I think sometimes you need that big,

1479
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 5: immovable guy. I know he's not the shot blocker that

1480
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 5: Miles is going to be. I know he's not going

1481
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 5: to pull guys away from the basket on offense that

1482
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 5: Miles did. I like having somebody that can hold his

1483
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 5: own against a really good big man down low, and

1484
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 5: I think he's a guy that.

1485
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 2: Can, for the most part, hold his own.

1486
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 5: Take a look at how he played against Nikola Jokicz

1487
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 5: last year in the playoffs. Yes, Jokis is still Jokis.

1488
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 5: He's going to do his thing, but he was held

1489
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 5: below all of his averages in that series. Your biggest question, then,

1490
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 5: how much offense are you going to Actually, I know

1491
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 5: he's averaging fourteen point four points per game.

1492
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: He gets a lot of that around the rim.

1493
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 5: I'm excited that he'll have Tyrese Haliburton deciding when he's

1494
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 5: going to get the ball and how he does that.

1495
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 5: But you're not going to have those nights where Miles

1496
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 5: Turner had three or four three point shots and scored

1497
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three points a game, and that can.

1498
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: Help as well.

1499
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 5: But I think overall, as much as I'm going to

1500
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 5: miss mather and and we've talked about that, you and

1501
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 5: I both like him, I don't think the Pacers hurt

1502
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 5: themselves at all and may have helped themselves when Tyrese

1503
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 5: Haliburton gets back.

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd probably point more to the draft pick element

1505
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 6: to the trade. That would be my biggest question mark

1506
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 6: is you know, are you giving up again a pick

1507
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 6: that is in the top ten? You know one question?

1508
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 6: You know, when Haliburton does get back, where is he

1509
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 6: at Achilles wise? You know, I did the dumb video

1510
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 6: game analogy the other day of if you want to

1511
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 6: call Tyre's Haliburton a ninety four overall currently in his

1512
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 6: current state, what if post Achilles it drops to eighty

1513
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 6: eight and you know some way you're splitting hairs. But

1514
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 6: then what if you do the same thing with Pascal

1515
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 6: Siakam as he starts to get, you know, deeper into

1516
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 6: his thirties. Okay, do you need then more of the

1517
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 6: offensive load to go to some other guys and are

1518
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 6: you equipped to handle that? But certainly with Zubats I

1519
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 6: think you're spot on and his ability to again just

1520
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 6: be an actual physical presence. Like you said, lack of

1521
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 6: physical toughness or you didn't want to go down that path. No,

1522
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 6: you're right, they did. They did lack physical toughness.

1523
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 5: I just want a difference because that was a very

1524
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 5: mentally tough basketball team.

1525
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 6: From the center position they lack. I mean they got

1526
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 6: bullied by a lot of guys, not just Joel Embiid.

1527
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 6: They got bullied when centers of that ilk played against them.

1528
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 6: And again I'll come back to this with matherin of

1529
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 6: did he want to be here?

1530
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 5: I think at some point as he developed, you get

1531
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 5: into a logjam of guys that essentially play the same position,

1532
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 5: whether it's two or three with the Indiana Pacers, and

1533
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 5: he is a guy that I think Rick We heard

1534
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 5: Rick talking about him in the last update the fact

1535
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 5: that he's coming into his own and probably could be

1536
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 5: maybe the second scorer on the Clippers as they moved

1537
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 5: down the line.

1538
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and again, I've obviously carried the Matherin flag for

1539
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 6: quite some time, so I apologize for repeating myself. But

1540
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 6: I feel like there's this weird kind of like the

1541
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 6: part of the fan base like takes him for granted

1542
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 6: or doesn't maybe fully acknowledge what he's done. He's done

1543
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 6: things this franchise has never seen of a player twenty one,

1544
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 6: twenty two, twenty three years old. Again, he is as

1545
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 6: young as Andrew Nemhard was what they drafted Nemhard Like,

1546
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 6: he's a very young basketball player. Basketball players typically you're

1547
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 6: not hitting your prime un till mid late twenties even,

1548
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 6: you know, early thirties. And we talk about him like

1549
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 6: he's some finished product. And you know, again in the

1550
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 6: NBA Finals and the biggest stage in the NBA Finals,

1551
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 6: he was a massive reason why you won Game three,

1552
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 6: coming off the bench, scoring the most points any player

1553
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 6: of that age has ever scored in finals history. I

1554
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 6: mean that finals history. Like again, you know, people are like, well,

1555
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 6: he doesn't fit well. You know, if you want to

1556
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 6: get technical I don't know if Zubats fits exactly what

1557
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 6: you want offensively, but sometimes it's necessary to have guys

1558
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 6: that do other things well for your basketball team. And

1559
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 6: Matheren as a bucket getter and getting to the foul

1560
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 6: line on a routine basis, does that. And I think

1561
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 6: at times that is really taken for granted. I don't

1562
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 6: see Jarris Walker doing that. I don't see Johnny Furfrey

1563
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 6: doing that. I don't see Ben Sheppard whoever else is

1564
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 6: going to step into that role. So again I get

1565
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 6: the trade, but I think we are very quick to

1566
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 6: just kind of shoe Matherin in his skill set away,

1567
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 6: particularly if you are going to lose this draft pick

1568
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 6: coming up.

1569
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, and again you and I have always liked Benedict

1570
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 5: Matherin and where he is, and he's only twenty three

1571
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 5: years old. But the other part of it is you're

1572
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 5: going to have if you want to get something, you

1573
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 5: have to get something. And it is clear that there

1574
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 5: was a huge hole at that five spot for the

1575
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 5: Indeta Pacers, and if they want to truly reload and

1576
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 5: make a run when Tyrese Haliburton gets back, you were

1577
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 5: going to have to address that.

1578
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 2: I also agree with you, this trade is made or.

1579
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 5: Broken on whether or not they get one of those

1580
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 5: big players at the at the top of the draft.

1581
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 5: Is what it feels like at this point in time.

1582
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 5: History may look at it.

1583
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: A little bit different.

1584
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 5: Maybe they do pick seventh and somehow win a windfall

1585
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 5: with a guy that nobody saw coming. But you can't

1586
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 5: count on those things.

1587
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: Seventh well, LA gets it.

1588
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, my point being if you go all the

1589
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 5: way back to tenth, then we.

1590
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 6: Should probably on the other side, which probably explain it

1591
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 6: again because I think people are very confused. I my

1592
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 6: hand is raised one thing, exactly what are the pick

1593
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 6: per teenctions? We'll try to do that again and can

1594
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 6: we can we get zoo bots.

1595
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 8: In his introductory press conference to give a shout out

1596
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 8: to a local radio host, maybe like a Benedict Mathern did.

1597
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 7: Thank you for your support, herr. You a big fan

1598
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 7: in the faces I'm here, you know, supporting you, you

1599
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 7: support me, and I'm really excited and you know, I'm

1600
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 7: really excited for the season and looking forward to do

1601
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 7: some damage to get some wins.

1602
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1603
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 8: Should I send it over to LA so they can

1604
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 8: use that now mutual support right there?

1605
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't hear that every day? No, Now, have

1606
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 6: you seen mister zoboss pregnancy pictures?

1607
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 10: Oh?

1608
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, the missus. Boy, don't think the Bowen family was

1609
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 6: dialing up those sorts of pictures, you know.

1610
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: And now I got to go look for him.

1611
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if you want to do it

1612
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 6: on that not on a work computer.

1613
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 5: I would one more quick thing before we get too

1614
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 5: far away from it. You were talking about Tyree's.

1615
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 6: Locked in a bathroom stall for the next ten minutes.

1616
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 5: Okay, now I have to go check it out.

1617
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: But we were talking about Tyree's Haliburton.

1618
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 5: What I love about this sixteen months he'll be off

1619
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 5: of that achilles injury when he plays a regular.

1620
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 2: Season NBA game. Again, I love that.

1621
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 5: And then when you talk about when you really have

1622
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 5: to make in the NBA from after the All Star

1623
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 5: Game on, he should be getting pretty close to whatever

1624
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 5: one hundred percent is going to be at that point

1625
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 5: in time. So I like I like the timing of

1626
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 5: all this kind of coming together. We'll see how the

1627
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 5: traffick works out, all right.

1628
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 2: Coming up in a moment, we will get an explainer. Again.

1629
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 5: Kevin Bowen did a great job in the opening minutes

1630
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 5: of running down how this trade works. We'll hear it

1631
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 5: again for those of you who missed it next. It's

1632
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 5: ninety three five and one oh seven five F.

1633
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 6: You're listening to a fan morning show on Sports Radio.

1634
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 5: Ninety seven, Kevin As I look out the windows of

1635
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 5: the Radio one.

1636
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 2: Studio here on.

1637
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 5: The second floor in downtown Indianapolis, the snow has started

1638
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 5: to drop again.

1639
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 6: I think it's snowing a lot in the northern part

1640
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 6: of the state right now. So hopefully girls basketball sectionals

1641
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 6: in particular, I would think we got wrestling regionals tomorrow

1642
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 6: around the state. Hopefully we're good on that. You know,

1643
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 6: we got a game inside of Mackie Arena. I don't

1644
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 6: think we're gonna have any issue issues there. But safe

1645
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 6: travels to everybody out there this weekend.

1646
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 5: All right, check real quickly before we get some explaining

1647
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 5: out of you, DJ and Indy talking about is there

1648
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 5: an open roster spot for the Pacers still and if so,

1649
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 5: thoughts on James Johnson's signing after this move.

1650
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 2: A lot of people are wondering what the bottom of the.

1651
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 5: Roster starts to look like.

1652
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 6: Two out and two in, right, Yeah, so, Isaiah Jackson,

1653
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 6: Ben Nicmatherin out, Vitza Zubats and Kobe Brown in. So yes,

1654
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 6: I don't, Yes, I don't foresee that.

1655
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 5: Hey, one of the things real quickly too. Before we

1656
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 5: get your explanation, I had reached out to the winner

1657
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 5: of our fantasy football morning show league, Katie from the

1658
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 5: KROCKA Gators.

1659
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: We were going to have her on this morning.

1660
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 5: With all the things that happened with the trade and

1661
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 5: everything like that, we kind of ran out of extra

1662
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 5: time to do stuff like that. But I promise you, Katie,

1663
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 5: sometime next week we will honor you in the appropriate

1664
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 5: way and shower you with prizes and all that good stuff.

1665
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 5: But I had reached out to her earlier in the

1666
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 5: week via email, saying, Hey, we'd love to have you on, Katie.

1667
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 5: We haven't forgotten about you. It just got really really

1668
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 5: busy today, so we will get there. Just give us

1669
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 5: a day or two and then the super Bowl will

1670
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 5: happen on Sunday and we'll honor you along with the

1671
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 5: eventual Super Bowl champions. That sounded like a plan, Mark Dayton,

1672
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 5: Katie from the KROCKA Gator. So, by the way, dominated

1673
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 5: that dominated that league pretty much beginning to end didn't.

1674
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 6: She I don't know. I was worried about my team

1675
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 6: that didn't fare so well.

1676
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 5: All right, Kevin, you promised a little bit of an

1677
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 5: explainer on how the draft situation in this trade for

1678
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 5: zubots might work for the Indiana Pacers.

1679
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 6: Yes, and again, like I said in the seven o'clock hour,

1680
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 6: you guys nitpick, I'm going to try and simplify it

1681
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 6: as best I can. Even myself had to go over

1682
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 6: it five, six, seven, eight times last night, so I

1683
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 6: hope this is as easy to explain. But again, the

1684
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,919
Speaker 6: twenty twenty sixth draft pick will go to the LA Clippers.

1685
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 6: If that pick falls at five, six, seven, eight or nine.

1686
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 6: If it's one through four, the Pacers keep it. If

1687
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 6: it's ten through thirty, the Pacers keep it. Now, let's

1688
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 6: go over all those scenarios. So the draft lottery is

1689
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 6: Mother's Day night, whatever it is, May tenth, a Sunday.

1690
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 6: We'll find out what the ping pong balls indicate here. Currently,

1691
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 6: the Pacers have the third worst record in the league.

1692
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 6: That means right now they would have a fifty two

1693
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 6: percent chance at a top four pick. If they had

1694
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 6: the second worst current league, it would be the same odds.

1695
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 6: If they had the first horse record in the league,

1696
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 6: it would be the same ods. So right now, it's

1697
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 6: about a coin flip to keep that top four pick

1698
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 6: based off the permutations in all event, and this is

1699
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 6: more of a math question than anything right now, according

1700
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 6: to the tankathon dot com, the most likely pick they

1701
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 6: would have would be sixth or fifth, So that pick

1702
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 6: again would go to the Clippers if they are drifting,

1703
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 6: obviously that would be a team jumping them in the lottery,

1704
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 6: which we do see that on an annual basis here.

1705
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 6: So that is what they're looking at right now.

1706
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 10: Now.

1707
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 6: How much could these odds shift again, Currently they have

1708
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 6: the third worst record. If they were to be three

1709
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 6: games better right now, Jeff, if they were to have

1710
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 6: three wins better, that fifty two percent number for a

1711
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 6: top four pick that would shrink to the mid thirties.

1712
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 6: So if you would have just had a little bit

1713
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 6: of a better October or November or December right now,

1714
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 6: the coin flip would be like one in three chants

1715
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 6: at getting a top four pick. So that's what you

1716
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 6: could be fighting now the rest of the season. The

1717
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 6: more you win, the less that coin flip happens. Now

1718
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 6: hear me out here. I have heard of some people say, well,

1719
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 6: what if they really start to win, and what if

1720
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 6: they get all the way to like the tenth worst

1721
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 6: record or the eleventh worst record, Because if you enter

1722
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 6: the lottery with the tenth or the eleventh worst record,

1723
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 6: you're going to keep your pick because based off how

1724
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 6: all the ping pong balls work, the only chance you

1725
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 6: would have there is either striking lightning in a bottle,

1726
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 6: which is likely like Dallas did last year, getting the

1727
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 6: first or second overall pick, or the lottery will play

1728
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 6: out and your small lottery odds will keep you ten

1729
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 6: or eleven or twelve somewhere right around there, and again

1730
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 6: you would keep that pick. You're only losing it if

1731
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 6: it's five, six, seven, eight, or nine. So I think

1732
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 6: that explains everything. My thought is, you want to try

1733
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 6: to keep the coin flip oods. The coin flipbods are

1734
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 6: the best odds you can have. Again it's for the first, second,

1735
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 6: or third worst record in the league. Then those odds

1736
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 6: start to decrease, so based off that, I think you

1737
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 6: have to tank. I don't think there's any way around it.

1738
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 6: If you want the best chance to get one of

1739
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 6: the top four picks.

1740
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 2: Let's see a lot of I can't wait to see.

1741
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 5: I'm excited to see what the future looks like.

1742
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: Noble's bill voom. We're going to see a lot of

1743
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: boom players in the second half of the season.

1744
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 6: And one other thing I'll add, if the Pacers were

1745
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 6: to lose their pick again five through nine, then they

1746
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 6: would send a twenty thirty one unprotected pick to the Clippers.

1747
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 6: They know they're sending twenty twenty nine unprotected, And I

1748
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 6: can hear people out there say, hey, twenty thirty one,

1749
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 6: I probably won't even be around. Okay, that's fine, I

1750
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 6: get that that's really far out. But how do these

1751
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 6: trades happen? How did you get Pascal Siakam? How do

1752
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 6: you get a Vita Zubats? You get them with future

1753
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 6: first round picks. So it limits you in the the

1754
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 6: amount of these sorts of deals. And maybe they are done.

1755
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 6: Maybe this is it, and maybe we're looking at their core.

1756
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 6: And if they don't get that lottery pick next year,

1757
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 6: that's probably a true statement. We're looking at their core now.

1758
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 6: I think it's difficult to try and wheel and deal

1759
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 6: your way into other roster tweaking.

1760
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: All right, coming up at a moment, will take anything. No,

1761
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 2: I think you're good.

1762
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 6: I think you did a great job explaining that.

1763
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 5: There you go.

1764
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 6: I mean that ALTI I think you guys are lying.

1765
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: You feel better.

1766
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 5: No, that was what you did well.

1767
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: I didn't interrupt you, no corrections. She did great. It's awesome.

1768
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 2: Appreciate you taking the time to look into that for us.

1769
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 6: Take the compliment, I know.

1770
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 5: I mean, we're giving him compliments. And he's staring into

1771
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 5: the microphone.

1772
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 6: He's been burned before. That's why he's waiting for the

1773
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 6: other shooting exactly. I don't believe you, guys, final hour

1774
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 6: of the week. You can't be this nice.

1775
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk good. Oh, we got an hour ago.

1776
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: Mike Chappell is going to join us in a moment.

1777
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 5: He is a Hall of Fame voter in the Pro

1778
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 5: Football Hall of Fame selection and they made their announcement

1779
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 5: as to who will be inducted this coming summer. We'll

1780
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 5: get his thoughts on perspective on that next. It's ninety

1781
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 5: three five and one oh seven five The Fan where

1782
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 5: we worship at the altar of Kevin Bowen's trade.

1783
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 12: Nowlage, you were listening to about Fan Morning show on

1784
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 12: Sports Radio ninety three to five and one fan.

1785
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 5: A going back to the Super Bowl halftime Miami in

1786
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 5: the rain.

1787
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 2: Checking out the Hall of Fame inductees from last night.

1788
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 2: One former cult getting in.

1789
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 5: Adam Vinnettieri gets in, but also Purdue quarterback Drew Brees,

1790
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 5: who had the long career with the Chargers and the Saints.

1791
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 2: He's getting in fairly quickly. Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keikley.

1792
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 5: Also Roger Craig, running back from the San Francisco forty

1793
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 5: nine Ers glory days when they were winning Super Bowls

1794
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 5: with Joe Montana.

1795
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if he.

1796
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 5: Played in that season with Steve Young or not, but

1797
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 5: he was an amazing running back. Kevin Bowen, Jeff Rickard,

1798
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 5: James Boyd is off on assignment now and Mark Dyton

1799
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 5: is in as always the man in the box back there,

1800
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 5: and we welcome in Mike Choppel. Mike does a great

1801
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 5: job and has been here from the beginning for the

1802
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 5: Indianapolis Colts and a good friend of the show and

1803
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 5: from Fox fifty nine does a great job covering the

1804
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 5: Colts there and he is a voter on the Hall

1805
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 5: of Fame, and he joins us now on the Paylesslookers

1806
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 5: hot Line. Good morning, Chappie. Do you still go back

1807
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl? Whenever you hear Prince?

1808
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 11: Yeah, that was a great time, the wife and some

1809
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 11: kids witting down with us and Sonny because you can

1810
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 11: see from the press box that it was sort of

1811
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 11: a missing rain and the wife's out in the stands

1812
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 11: and he said, no, it was raining, And you know,

1813
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 11: I didn't appreciate that because I was in the warmth

1814
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 11: and the dryness of the press box. And but that

1815
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 11: was a great day, great night, and uh, it'll be

1816
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 11: part of that's that's the pinnacle of Colt Slore in

1817
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,759
Speaker 11: indie style. Uh. Since until they do something else.

1818
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 6: Chap, I'll uh, I'll buy you a lunch later this

1819
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 6: year for waking up with us today.

1820
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 5: Thank you for you know, you know, I just want

1821
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 5: you to know and you you not go back and

1822
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 5: forth on this.

1823
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 11: It takes like an important, uh work related thing, or

1824
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 11: or going to Fortville to watch my grandkids play football

1825
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 11: or basketball, or you guys for me to set my alarm.

1826
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 6: So you guys are special, Yeah, I said, I sent

1827
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 6: Chap along kind of double paragraph text asking him. I said,

1828
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 6: want to be respectul of your beauty sleep. His response,

1829
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 6: one word, sure, So I'm absolutely happy about.

1830
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: Great writers are men and the men of a few words.

1831
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 11: You need your you need and you need your sleep.

1832
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 11: You know when you go to bed at one o'clock

1833
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 11: in the morning like I do, because I'm an idiot,

1834
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 11: it takes a while to get it in the morning.

1835
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 6: Well, we did have to wait quite a while last night,

1836
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 6: but we did hear adamvin Terry's name announced. Very deserving.

1837
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 6: I felt like first ballot, to be honest with you,

1838
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 6: but I understand where we're at from a voting process.

1839
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 6: Let's move to Reggie Wayne. You mentioned it in your

1840
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 6: piece on CBS four Fox fifty nine that Reggie did

1841
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 6: not even crack the top ten. So you have fifteen finalists,

1842
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 6: you cut it to ten, then he cut it to seven.

1843
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 6: You vote from there. He did not get the cut

1844
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 6: to ten. Safe to say, Chap that, unfortunately we're going

1845
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 6: to be waiting quite a while for Reggie Wayne's name

1846
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 6: to be announced into the Hall of Fame.

1847
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 11: Well, we already had. This is seven years in waiting,

1848
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 11: and it, Yeah, it frustrates me. I'm the one. I'm

1849
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 11: the guy that you know, the local market guy, kind

1850
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 11: of presents each guy who's eligibol and I've done it

1851
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 11: with Boring and Peyton was pretty easy, but Edren and

1852
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 11: Freeny it's and we're not allowed to talk about what

1853
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 11: the debate in the room, so there's some things I

1854
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 11: can't say. But all I will say is nationally, Reggie's

1855
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 11: looked at as a really good player, but not a

1856
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 11: cut above. And I don't know where that comes from,

1857
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 11: whether whether other selectors hold it against Reggie that that

1858
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 11: he most of his career was with Peyton and Andrew Luck,

1859
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,759
Speaker 11: or or that they've already got a slew of guys

1860
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 11: in and you know by the way, you guys only

1861
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 11: won one Super Bowl for crying out loud, I don't know, uh,

1862
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 11: But the way that we've we won't go too deep

1863
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 11: in the weeds, but the way that we've cut it

1864
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 11: back from generally five guys getting in, uh to where

1865
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 11: last year was three, this year was four, which I

1866
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 11: was pleasantly surprised by the way we've We've we've changed

1867
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 11: the voting to we go from fifteen to ten to seven,

1868
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 11: and we used to go from fifteen to ten to

1869
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 11: five and then you voted just or knowing the guys,

1870
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 11: and they got in unless you had a real well,

1871
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 11: they got in because it would take eleven guys to

1872
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 11: say no. But now you cut to seven and then

1873
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 11: we vote, we only vote for five, so it's hard.

1874
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 11: It's really gonna be hard to get five in. I

1875
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 11: don't think we will because of the math doesn't work

1876
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 11: getting forward with good. But the problem we right into

1877
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 11: is when you get a couple of guys who are

1878
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 11: gonna gobble up a lot of the vote. I kind

1879
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 11: of think Breeze and Fitzgerald did that this year. It

1880
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 11: makes it hard to spread to other guys. Although again,

1881
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 11: two guys did get eighty percent for this group, so

1882
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 11: you're gonna get the I hate to use the word headliners,

1883
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 11: but those guys, you know coming up, we've got Tom Brady,

1884
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 11: we've got ground Cask, Adrian Peterson in people like that,

1885
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 11: they're gonna be like, oh, well, we're gonna vote for

1886
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 11: him because because well, that pushes those guys who who

1887
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 11: might be a rung below, you know, guys who certainly

1888
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 11: deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. But with

1889
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 11: I think it's Reggie, it's Tory Holt, it's people Willie

1890
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 11: Anderson from the Bengals Jeff Hobbson like me, he's going

1891
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 11: crazy trying to figure out new wayssent his guy. Uh,

1892
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 11: it's gonna be hard.

1893
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 5: It just is.

1894
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 11: I've I've had long talks with Reggie about it, and

1895
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 11: he's frustrated, almost to the point of that he's just

1896
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 11: he doesn't want to talk about it. You've been out

1897
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 11: there when we've talked to Reggie about the Hall of

1898
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 11: Fame and right, it's been less and less enthusiastic.

1899
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 6: And you you used didn't you use Belichick one year? Like?

1900
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 6: What wasn't Belichick really high in his Reggie Price? Oh?

1901
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 11: Remember, Yeah, that's where Reggie sort of ended. Remember he

1902
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 11: went to New England for English training camp in fifteen

1903
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 11: I think it was or whatever year it was.

1904
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 6: Uh.

1905
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, That's why I say there's this notion that that

1906
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 11: he really good, but he is. It's his numbers. If

1907
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 11: he saw Peter King's video the other day, I don't

1908
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 11: know whose podcast he was on. I don't callow him

1909
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 11: that close to but he just sort of said, you know,

1910
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 11: Tory Holton, Reggie Wayne, you know, very very good players,

1911
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 11: but they didn't have those signature moments and all that,

1912
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 11: and and I call bs on that. I'm still I

1913
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 11: still brestle over the fact that Andrey Johnson. We allowed

1914
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 11: Andre Johnson to jump the line, you know, a couple

1915
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 11: of years ago, several years ago, Calvin Johnson again, you're

1916
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 11: you're in the room, and you know, Marvin Harrison had

1917
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 11: to wait three years, which is ridiculous because you know,

1918
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 11: we had to get We got Andre Reid in his

1919
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 11: first year. The second year we voted in uh, Tim Brown,

1920
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 11: and then Marvin. That's ridiculous. But now we've got We've

1921
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 11: had Isaac Bruce, Tory Holton, Reggie Wayne, and we got

1922
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 11: Isaac Bruce in and then it was going to be well, next, next,

1923
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 11: and that's the way it works. And then well, Calvin

1924
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 11: Johnson was eligible. Well, Calvin Johnson was He was special.

1925
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 11: You know, you don't be called megatron just you're a guy.

1926
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 11: You're that good. So I understood that. But then Andre

1927
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 11: Johnson came up a couple of years ago. And I'm

1928
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 11: not dismissing Andre Johnson at all. His numbers are so

1929
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 11: similar to Reggie and and Tory Holt, but Reggie are better,

1930
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 11: and Reggie has the playoffs that are undeniable. And we

1931
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 11: voted Andrey Johnson in ahead of Reggie and Tory Holt,

1932
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 11: which I just didn't agree with. And I knew then.

1933
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 11: I knew then that it was going to be a

1934
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 11: tough haul for Reggie to get in, just because I

1935
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 11: know the process and I know the guys. The fifteen

1936
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 11: guys we put up every year are our upper tier players.

1937
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 11: I don't care what Deon Sanders says about we're letting

1938
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 11: too many guys, and it's easy to say that when

1939
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 11: you're already in. But I just I'm worried about Reggie

1940
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 11: getting in, and I am what he needs to do

1941
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 11: is and I know he's frustrated with it is because

1942
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 11: at some point he may say, just get me off

1943
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 11: the ballot, give me out. And if you guys have

1944
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 11: done that, which doesn't mean you're off the ballot, but

1945
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 11: but it's better to be one of the fifteen every

1946
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 11: year than to be than not to be, because then

1947
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 11: you're sort of forgotten and then everything moves on. John

1948
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 11: Lynch is Hall of Famer and he got in on

1949
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 11: his nineties in his ninth year, after ninth straight, in

1950
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 11: his ninth straight finals appearance. So but it's just hard

1951
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 11: to and and it's it's gonna be hard for those

1952
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 11: guys who aren't aren't the upper upper guys. And just

1953
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 11: because you're not one of the upper upper guys. And

1954
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 11: reggiees dog out of reggiees darned close to those guys.

1955
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 6: He is.

1956
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 5: He just is.

1957
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 11: Look at look at the numbers. I mean at the

1958
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 11: Kevin at our business. We can do a lot of

1959
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 11: things to numbers. We can make them sing, you can,

1960
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 11: but you can't. You can't dismiss Reggie's numbers. The one

1961
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 11: that I always used, dog got it is there's two

1962
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 11: players in NFL history that rank top eleven in yards

1963
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 11: and receptions in the regular season in the postseason, I

1964
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 11: mean their careers and is Reggie and Jerry Rice.

1965
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 10: So I it.

1966
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 11: Frustrates me, and I know it frustrates for Reggie and

1967
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 11: all you just you go back and try to get

1968
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 11: next year.

1969
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,640
Speaker 5: Talking to Mike Chapel, Fox fifty nine here on the

1970
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 5: Fan Morning Show in the Payless Liquors Hotline, a few

1971
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 5: words on Drew Brees getting in the former Purdue quarterback

1972
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 5: making a lot of folks in Indiana proud obviously put

1973
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 5: up staggering numbers during his career, but general thoughts on

1974
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 5: him in the Hall of Fame.

1975
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, he again, he's that cut above and he did

1976
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 11: it for a long time, and he did it at

1977
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 11: a high level. What is the second in yards? I

1978
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 11: think he's second in touchdowns.

1979
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 2: I play behind Brady is All and.

1980
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 11: I don't have all of his numbers because I do

1981
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 11: anything with him. But there's only a handful of guys

1982
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 11: that have thrown for five thousand yards of the season,

1983
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 11: and he's done it like a couple of times or

1984
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 11: three times whatever it is, seventy percent his completion percentage

1985
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 11: rolling out of bed. That wasn't a surprise, and it

1986
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 11: was funny. You think about time and place. Remember when

1987
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 11: he was with the Chargers and his last year there.

1988
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 11: As it turned out, he one of the last games

1989
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 11: he had that shoulder injury. He was tackled in the whatever.

1990
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 11: It was near the end of the season, and he

1991
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 11: had to rehab all off season. And that's before he

1992
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 11: went to the Saints. He had to try out a

1993
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 11: workout with Amami Dolphins and they wouldn't or didn't clary medically.

1994
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 11: So then he goes to New Orleans. Can you imagine,

1995
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 11: I mean, how things might have would have changed for Breeze.

1996
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:59,560
Speaker 11: Certainly but two franchises and if instead he instead of

1997
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,640
Speaker 11: going to the Sainty, goes to the Dolphins, so what

1998
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 11: a great career. I remember I met him. It was

1999
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 11: whatever the year he came out from Purdue with and

2000
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 11: going into the combine. I drove up to Westlafaiette and

2001
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 11: sat in the office and talked to him for a while.

2002
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 11: Such a I don't think he's changed much. Such a

2003
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 11: personal guy, and it gives he gives time. He knows

2004
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 11: there's a responsibility when you're that guy, whether it's the

2005
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 11: quarterback a Perdue or a quarterback with the Saints or

2006
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 11: a Hall of Fame guy. Jeff Duncan, the guy from

2007
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 11: New Orleans, the media guy that presented him and covered

2008
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 11: him in the Saints posted that you know how you

2009
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 11: know Breeze was in form last night. He did all

2010
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 11: the interviews on TV and you did all the local

2011
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 11: TVs from New Orleans that went there, and then he

2012
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 11: had time for each of the the individual media guys

2013
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 11: from the Saints that cover that cover him, that cover

2014
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 11: the Saints. And that's what those guys are. Our guys

2015
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 11: have been the same way. Our guys, I mean the

2016
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 11: Colts guys with with Ed Duran and and Freeney and

2017
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 11: I'm sure vinitarry our guys, Uh, Brett Bensleing and Chris

2018
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 11: Hagen talked with him last night. And that's how he is.

2019
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 11: That's how those guys are. Peyton was all. You know,

2020
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 11: you matter Peyton the same way. So, uh, those are

2021
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 11: special guys. The Hall of Fame is a special place.

2022
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 11: I know it got out of whack two weeks ago.

2023
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 11: But until until we come up with a better process,

2024
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 11: this is what we have and we'll work with it.

2025
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 6: Chap last one and again we we definitely appreciate the time. Again,

2026
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 6: Mike Chapall with us here CBS Force Fox fifty Now

2027
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 6: where can find his work? You mentioned a couple of

2028
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 6: weeks ago, we didn't see Robert Kraft get in. We

2029
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 6: didn't see Bill Belichick get in. One it sounded like

2030
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 6: you got a call from one of those individuals this week,

2031
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 6: if you don't mind sharing that story. And then two,

2032
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 6: how do owners get on the Hall of Fame ballot?

2033
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 11: They just have they just had. We we have subcommittees

2034
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 11: and you know contributors which are owners and it's uh uh.

2035
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 11: John Madden might have gone in as sort of a

2036
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 11: hybrid because of his the Madden stuff and TV or broadcasting,

2037
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 11: and he was a hell of a coach and then

2038
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 11: senior players and then and in modern era, so they

2039
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 11: whittled it down. Uh, And this was people were wrong.

2040
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 11: This was not Kraft's first time as a finalist. He

2041
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 11: was a finalist like ten years ago, I think it was,

2042
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 11: and didn't get in obviously, But then you know, we

2043
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 11: got Jerry Jones in, we got a lot of owners,

2044
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 11: are in, a lot of GMS, are in Bill Pollon.

2045
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 5: Uh.

2046
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 11: But no, I got it. Yeah. It's funny all the

2047
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 11: stuff happened with where I didn't vote for Belichick, and

2048
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 11: it was primarily Spygate. I mean, I think if your

2049
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 11: first ballot guy, a first ballot guy, it needs to

2050
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,919
Speaker 11: be your bio needs to be clean, as clean as possible.

2051
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 11: Peyton and Vinnie Vinni should have gone in last year

2052
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 11: in my mind, Brett Farr and those those type of things.

2053
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 6: Uh.

2054
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 11: And and Belchick at Spygate. And it's not like it

2055
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 11: was alleged. He was disciplined by the league for five

2056
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 11: hundred thousand dollars and and they were doctor first round

2057
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 11: draft pick.

2058
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 2: So that's why.

2059
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 11: And then I did vote for Craft. So last week

2060
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 11: I'm sitting there.

2061
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 5: No, it was this week.

2062
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 11: It was on Monday and I got it. I got

2063
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 11: a call with the New England area area code and

2064
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:30,719
Speaker 11: I was probably not up yet because it's like eight thirty.

2065
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 11: I called it back and it was it was the

2066
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 11: guy didn't answer, but it was the PR guy for

2067
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 11: the for the Patriot that thought, oh crap, somebody's got

2068
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 11: to call and read me their Riot Act. Well, they

2069
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 11: called me back two days ago and it was it

2070
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 11: was Stacy James PR guy. I said, yeah, I've got

2071
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 11: somebody want to talk to you. I get I'm thinking,

2072
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 11: oh crap.

2073
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 2: Well it was.

2074
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 11: It was a Robber Craft and we talked for ten

2075
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 11: minutes and he just wanted to thank me for his

2076
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 11: for the support, and he was what he was. Probably

2077
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 11: it was lobbying for the next time he's on the

2078
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 11: on the ballot, which is fine, which is fine.

2079
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 6: But he didn't have to do that.

2080
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 11: And I did tell him that, you know, yeah, I

2081
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 11: voted for you because you deserved it, and even though

2082
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 11: you are the overseer of the Evil Empire, I said, so,

2083
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 11: you know, I did. Let I didn't let that hold

2084
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 11: me back on voting for you, but you know it's

2085
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 11: it's that's where it gets hard is when you're when

2086
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 11: with this process, You're you're debating an owner of all

2087
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 11: these Super Bowls and a coach with all these wins

2088
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 11: and all these Super Bowls against against players. It's just

2089
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 11: I tend to lead towards players anyway. Just because it

2090
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 11: was a little different with Craft, I thought, and it

2091
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 11: will be next you with Belichick because he gets in

2092
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 11: next year. He does. I'm positive of that as positive

2093
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 11: I can be. But it was it was always cool

2094
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 11: to at least they they paid attention and I all

2095
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 11: of our votes are supposed to be secret. We can

2096
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 11: tell who we've for who you want. I'm really going

2097
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 11: to be curious if if I ever find out who

2098
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 11: the people who did not vote for Belichick are. And

2099
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:10,560
Speaker 11: we're going to have our meeting coming up in a

2100
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 11: couple of weeks to kind of rehash things, and I

2101
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 11: don't think they're going to tell us. I don't think

2102
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 11: people are going to admit who it was. I did

2103
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 11: mine just because I got tired of the backlash and

2104
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 11: some of the supporters, some of them selectors, well, I

2105
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 11: voted for Belichick and him not getting in with is

2106
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 11: an embarrassment, whether they're they're calling my my non voter

2107
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 11: and embarrassment and I didn't appreciate that, but we'll see.

2108
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 11: Uh it's again, like I say, it's a flawed system.

2109
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,759
Speaker 11: Every system is flawed. Uh, baseball and all that basketball,

2110
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 11: they're flawed. And until you've got a better idea, this

2111
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 11: is what we'll go with. But yeah, it's pretty cool

2112
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 11: talking to Robert Craft and you know, fortunately, and it's funny.

2113
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 11: I'm doing a follow up story on Vinnie today about

2114
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 11: how it began in New England and his first coach

2115
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 11: was Bill Parcells. There's a whole coach and I got

2116
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 11: a hold of him and talking to him about Vinnie,

2117
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 11: and Vinnie talked about how he was he was a

2118
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 11: scared rookie every time he went out there in ninety

2119
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 11: six because he thought he's gonna get cut. But it's

2120
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 11: interesting stuff and it's one of the things you get

2121
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 11: to do as a selector. You get to talk to

2122
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 11: some of these guys. Belichick called one time. I was

2123
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 11: watching TV late one night and it rings and it's,

2124
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 11: you know, a caller. He said, no, no caller, idea

2125
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 11: whatever it is. And I answered and he said, yeah,

2126
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 11: this is Bill Belichick. I thought, holy crap, and he

2127
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,759
Speaker 11: was giving me some good stuff on Reggie and and Edrin.

2128
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 11: He was a big fan of both Edron he really

2129
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 11: loved So it's kind of cool. But then then what

2130
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 11: you also come with the criticism, which is fine. They

2131
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 11: can criticize until they can do it better.

2132
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 2: Chappie, thanks for getting up early for us this morning.

2133
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 5: We appreciate that one.

2134
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 11: You know, you guys just you guys are special, Like

2135
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 11: I said, Oh, we're.

2136
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 2: Special, all right, but we appreciate you being here.

2137
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Speaker 6: Man, Thank you chat all right here he is my guys.

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Speaker 5: Mike Chapel, the dean covering the cults since the beginning

2139
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 5: here in Indianapolis from Fox fifty nine. Uh, you know,

2140
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 5: he brought up the fact that Viniti first started playing

2141
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 5: for Parcels. Think about a career in which you play

2142
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 5: for parcels. Belichick and Tony Dungee, it's not bad.

2143
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 6: Mark. Could you maybe mimic a Bill Belichick late night

2144
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 6: phone call? Here Belichick dialing you up as you're watching

2145
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 6: Law and Order. Hey, Champa, I just got a question

2146
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 6: for you. Why didn't I make the Hall of Fame?

2147
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 6: What do I gotta do? What's the guy I got

2148
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 6: to do here? How many Super Bowls do I need

2149
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 6: to one? Jordan? I don't want to watch you Real

2150
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 6: Housewives again? We already watched that episode. What is the

2151
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 6: Traders bill?

2152
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 2: Let's check it down.

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01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 9: The Moiing shut Down brought to you by the Barbosol

2154
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 9: Horizon League Basketball Champion.

2155
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 5: Chips marsh Stars.

2156
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 9: Here the Barbisol Horizon Leave Basketball Championshiffs LA Tournament is

2157
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 9: blah blah March eight through tens, tickets and more at

2158
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,560
Speaker 9: how Rising League dot Com slashing Indeed.

2159
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 2: Pacers, as you know by now, have made a trade.

2160
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:13,839
Speaker 5: They pick up i Eacha Zubats from the LA Clippers

2161
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 5: along with Kobe Brown for Benedict Mather and Isaiah Jackson

2162
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six first round pick that's protected of it's

2163
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,560
Speaker 5: in the top four for Indiana. It goes to the

2164
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 5: Clippers five through nine, then back to the Pacers if

2165
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 5: it goes past ten, twenty twenty nine first round pick,

2166
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 5: a twenty twenty eight.

2167
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 2: Second round pick.

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Speaker 5: But what does Rick Carlisle think about the trade. He

2169
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 5: called up JMV on his own yesterday to tell us

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01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 5: about Iviza Zubats.

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01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 10: With the departure of Miles Turner. We desperately need a quality,

2172
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 10: high level starting center. We believe Zubats is the top

2173
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 10: ten center in the NBA. Conversations on this deal went

2174
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 10: on for many days, and I would assume longer. This

2175
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 10: is a great opportunity for all players involved. Ben has

2176
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 10: grown so much as a player, Isaiah the same. I mean,

2177
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 10: these guys are homegrown Indiana pacer products. One guy's been

2178
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 10: in his fifth year, one guy's in his fourth year.

2179
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 10: And I'm proud to say that right now. You know,

2180
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 10: as we speak, these two guys are in the best

2181
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 10: possible position that they could be in to move on

2182
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 10: to the next opportunity and really flourish. And that's what

2183
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 10: we hope for them. And uh, certainly we hope the

2184
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 10: trade goes through and everything works out, but we're excited

2185
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 10: to get Zubos And Kobe Brown's a young player that

2186
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 10: people don't know a whole lot about, but this would

2187
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 10: be a great opportunity for him.

2188
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,839
Speaker 5: So that's Rick Carlisle calling into the ride with JAMV

2189
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 5: yesterday to talk about this, and for a moment, Kevin,

2190
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 5: you're a little upset that Rick called JMV automatically is

2191
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 5: usually our guy.

2192
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 6: Right, Well, no, I think I was Mark that texted

2193
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 6: us is Rick cheating on us? So Mark, you know,

2194
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 6: Mark's been all about integrity this week, from Jeff's cheating

2195
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 6: to essentially Rick Carlisle. Yeah, I've been bruised and battered

2196
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 6: this week. Former jes fire away.

2197
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 8: Rick's cheating on us. Boy, you're talking about bottles of bourbon.

2198
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 8: It might be hitting the sauce later today.

2199
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 5: Just to cope with my feelings, I had to file

2200
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 5: a protest with the NCAA because you know they'll ignored

2201
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 5: as much as anybody else, I suppose. So Also yesterday

2202
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 5: there was as we just got done talking about Adam Vini,

2203
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 5: Terry voted into the Hall of Fame, the former cult

2204
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,719
Speaker 5: getting in along with Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Roger Craig,

2205
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 5: Luke Keikley.

2206
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 2: Wait continues for Reggie Wayne and Frank Gore.

2207
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 5: And we'll see maybe a better shot down the road

2208
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 5: for Frank Gore than Reggie Wayne.

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Speaker 6: You think, yeah, I mean, based off what Chap said,

2210
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 6: you know, Reggie didn't even make the top ten Frank

2211
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 6: Gore did. I think you're going to see more albeit

2212
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:43,639
Speaker 6: Adrian Peterson next year. I think you're going to see

2213
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 6: more wide receivers having strong resumes. Tory Holt, I would

2214
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 6: say is still probably above Reggie based off everything Chap

2215
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,640
Speaker 6: has shared. So yeah, I think it's gonna If you

2216
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 6: want your next Colt, I would say, Gore and then Wayne.

2217
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 5: All right, well waiting.

2218
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 8: I was looking at like Hall of Fame classes in

2219
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 8: the future, like like star studied in these next couple

2220
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 8: of years, our star study got Brady, got all these

2221
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 8: other guys there. I was look and I hate to

2222
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 8: say this, for Reggie, I was looking like twenty twenty nine,

2223
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 8: twenty thirty seems at the time like it's clearing up

2224
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 8: a little bit. So maybe then, but the boy, that's

2225
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 8: a long way out.

2226
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,639
Speaker 6: I guess. Just remind everybody Chap said, you know, seventh

2227
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 6: year for Reggie, you can be on the modern ballot

2228
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 6: for twenty years. I want to say. John Lynch got

2229
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 6: in at like year nine or ten, so there is precedent.

2230
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 6: Not great, but just thought I mentioned him.

2231
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 5: NFL honors also announced last night for the twenty twenty

2232
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 5: five season. The most Valuable Player Matthew Stafford, who just

2233
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 5: got one more first place vote than Drake May in

2234
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 5: a very close race.

2235
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 2: In a race in which you said Justin Herbert got

2236
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 2: one first place vote. I understand that if that had

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01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 2: gone the other way, then Drake may would have won

2238
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 2: on points.

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Speaker 11: Correct.

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Speaker 2: I think that's how that worked last night either way.

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Speaker 5: NFLAP Offensive Player of the Year Jackson Smith and JIGBA

2242
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 5: Defensive Player of the Year Miles Garrett set the sack

2243
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 5: record for the Browns.

2244
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 2: Also Pro Football Hall of Fame class.

2245
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 5: We just talked about that and the Walter Payton NFL

2246
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:10,879
Speaker 5: Man of the Year Bobby Wagner.

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01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 2: That's always one of my.

2248
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 5: Favorite awards that they passed out, just people who continue

2249
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 5: to do great things in their community.

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Speaker 2: And we had a worthy guy nominated by the Colts

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Speaker 2: this year too.

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01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, shout out to Kenny more than second James. What

2253
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 6: a great piece on The Athletic about m Kenny on

2254
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 6: stage last night there, So shout out to that. Obviously.

2255
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 6: We got super Bowl coming up on Sunday. A couple

2256
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 6: of other items again, girls basketball, sectionals, boys wrestling. Hopefully

2257
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 6: Mother Nature will cooperate on that. Our college basketball slate

2258
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 6: is very afternoon driven tomorrow Indiana Wisconsin at noon. Wisconsin

2259
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:45,560
Speaker 6: has played a lot better lately here, so Indiana is

2260
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 6: still on their home floor. I think should win that game,

2261
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 6: but that's at noon Purdue. It gets lowly ore again.

2262
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:54,639
Speaker 6: They have been absolutely awful, just getting rolled by teams.

2263
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 6: So Purdue has had quite the byes here, if you will,

2264
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 6: with Maryland and Oregon, and then they've got a loaded

2265
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:04,639
Speaker 6: gauntlet starting next week. Butler up at Marquette. That's two o'clock.

2266
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 6: You can hear that right here on the fan tomorrow.

2267
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 8: The NFL is tweeting out videos of like reveals and

2268
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 8: stuff like Larry Fitzgerald finding out he's going to the

2269
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 8: Hall of Fame with Rady.

2270
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 6: Martin Anderson, Greedy, Adam and Tarry at the door.

2271
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 8: So they just released a Matt Stafford video. He thought

2272
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 8: he was watching for the Rams, and in sets his

2273
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 8: daughter's just talking about how awesome he is, and then

2274
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 8: they come out and give him a big hugs.

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01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,560
Speaker 6: As a girl, dad warms my heart. That is a

2276
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 6: very touching video. I do enjoy the Hall of Fame

2277
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 6: videos in particular. Did you see the Larry Fitzgerald Randy

2278
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 6: Moss one? You know, I thought that was a cool

2279
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 6: element to it. I enjoyed those videos more than the

2280
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 6: actual announcement. The reveal videos. Those are awesome. So yes,

2281
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:41,640
Speaker 6: if you're curious these Hall of Famers do know that

2282
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 6: they've gotten in, you know, a week or two before

2283
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 6: the selection happens.

2284
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:46,799
Speaker 2: If you're into videos.

2285
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 5: By the way, something I just stumbled across a couple

2286
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 5: of breaks ago when I was going through some social media.

2287
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,799
Speaker 2: There's on Twitter an account called ak Riley.

2288
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 5: Are you familiar with that account? Ak Riley basketball account

2289
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,799
Speaker 5: put together a four in an eight second video highlight

2290
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 5: reel of Dubats Zubats. Sorry about that if it's a Zubots,

2291
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 5: So there you go. If you want to check that out,

2292
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 5: you can see some of the things he's capable of doing.

2293
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 5: All right, coming up in a moment, Mark, we will

2294
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 5: take our first look at the Super Bowl and what

2295
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 5: we plan on the thinking is going to happen, betting

2296
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 5: things of that nature. We'll do it next ninety three

2297
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 5: five one O seven five.

2298
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 7: They not like us, They not like us, They not

2299
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 7: like us, They not like us, They.

2300
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 2: Not like us, no way shape or for Mark Dykan

2301
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:36,640
Speaker 2: are they not like us?

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01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 6: That's right?

2303
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 2: How that goes?

2304
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 6: Super Bowl theme all day long, Mark SUPERWL halftime themes.

2305
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 8: So I was very Fittings joining us, so prints a

2306
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 8: little bit earlier, and yeah, a little taste of what's.

2307
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 6: To come on Sunday. No Katy Perry this morning, and

2308
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 6: she didn't make the cut. Although I do enjoy Katy Perry,

2309
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 6: she did not like The Coke.

2310
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 5: Shark was an awesome halftime show.

2311
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 6: You have Gaga earlier, did I do? That was a

2312
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 6: great one.

2313
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 8: There was Doctor Dre and Snoop Dogg, which I personally

2314
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 8: think was the best halftime show. War My Heart, Tom

2315
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,560
Speaker 8: Petty in the Heart, When Minem came out, Rihanna, what

2316
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 8: was that?

2317
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 6: Was that? When Eminem came out?

2318
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 8: Yes, Eminem, Snoop Dog, Mary J. Blige, Kendrick Lamar and

2319
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 8: fifty that was just a.

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01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 2: Couple of years ago. Yeah, that was in La. Yeah

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01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 2: that was that was awesome. That probably was my favorite.

2322
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 5: I really didn't know anything about Katy Perry until that

2323
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 5: halftime show. I knew that she was a pop star,

2324
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 5: but anybody I was all in the second I saw

2325
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 5: somebody riding in on a thirty foot golden lion, I'm like,

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01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 5: this is what a super Bowl halftime show should start

2327
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 5: out as.

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01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 2: Right here, and then you had the left Shark, the

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01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 2: right Shark.

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Speaker 5: It was great.

2331
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 6: We had the.

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01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 8: Weekend that was during COVID when he got lost in

2333
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 8: the Hall of Mirrors. That was a fascinating one. Yeah,

2334
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 8: but yeah, there's some good ones lately.

2335
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 2: I like it all right.

2336
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 5: So we got super Bowl coming up. Marcus curated a

2337
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,560
Speaker 5: bunch of questions for us and based on what we

2338
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 5: think is our predictive abilities for the super Bowl coming

2339
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 5: up this weekend. James, of course is gone, so Mark

2340
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 5: had him write his answers down and put him in

2341
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 5: an envelope for us so we couldn't so I couldn't

2342
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 5: see it. Apparently, whoa, that's where we're at at the time.

2343
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 6: That's something to put it in an envelope. And then

2344
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 6: there was going to be some big reveal.

2345
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 2: I'm scarred now that's all that sounds secretive?

2346
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 6: Write anything down? Well, because you're here here, you're present,

2347
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 6: you know this is just because he's not here right now. Okay,

2348
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 6: So we get a big James Boyd reveal coming up here.

2349
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 5: We got we got an envelope that open up for

2350
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 5: the first question here, So, Mark, what are the questions

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Speaker 5: coming up for the super Bowl this weekend that you

2352
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 5: would like to be illuminated on.

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01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 6: Let's get some super Bowl music going here.

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01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 2: All right?

2355
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 6: How about this?

2356
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 8: This is always a favorite one on the betting scales.

2357
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 8: You guys are heads or tails? Guy on the coin flip.

2358
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 6: Heads Tail's never failed, never fails.

2359
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 2: All right, Let's see what James.

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01:54:58,160 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 6: I don't think he wrote that one.

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01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 2: I only asked him for some Okay, they can wait

2362
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 2: to open up the whole thing.

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01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't write that on his love letter to you, Mark,

2364
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 6: No no.

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01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 12: Blue.

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01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 6: I even like he handed away you pooh.

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01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 2: He handed it to Scotti Johnson. Scottie gave it to him. Said, hey,

2368
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 2: when you see Mark, let him know I wrote this

2369
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 2: down for him.

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01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 11: All right.

2371
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 8: A lot of people are saying the super Bowl might

2372
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 8: be a blowout. They think the Seahawks defense is just

2373
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 8: too good, and maybe the Patriots kind of lucked themselves

2374
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 8: into a Super Bowl appearance. The Patriots will keep this

2375
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 8: game close. How on Sunday start with Jeff got the blowout?

2376
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 8: Gotta win the turnover battle.

2377
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 5: If Sam Darnold turns the ball over, Kennath Walker drops

2378
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 5: it once or twice, then I think New.

2379
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 2: England's good enough to take advantage of that.

2380
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 5: I don't know that they can sustain a lot of

2381
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 5: offense up and down the field all day long. So

2382
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 5: I think it's their best chance is to win the turnover,

2383
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 5: get some breaks, maybe make some stops on fourth down.

2384
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm going to ask to you you super Bowl

2385
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 8: MVP momentarily.

2386
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 2: Hey, we got to go to get his answer the

2387
01:55:59,600 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 2: go ahead.

2388
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 6: Well, I just think New England can be old school.

2389
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 6: They can run it and they can play a little

2390
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 6: ball control. And yeah, I find this weird position I'm in,

2391
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 6: like all of a sudden, trying to prop up New

2392
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 6: England because I just all I hear is Seattle's gonna roll.

2393
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 6: Seattle's going to roll, and I just don't see that.

2394
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm trying to talk myself into an entertaining game,

2395
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 6: but I do not see that. I think Drake May

2396
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 6: is a far better quarterback than what we've seen here

2397
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 6: in some very inclement weather playoff games.

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01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm going to ask you guys your super Bowl

2399
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 8: MVP in a minute, But who is a dark horse

2400
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 8: MVP candidate? Then maybe you want to sprinkle some money

2401
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 8: on ahead of Sunday, maybe get some good value there,

2402
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 8: because this isn't just an MVP of like the league.

2403
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 8: You can get a defensive player, you can get a

2404
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 8: running back, can get a wide receiver.

2405
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 6: Whoever is a big game. Who is your dark horse MVP? Well,

2406
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 6: last time Seattle's in this game, Percy Harvin had a huge,

2407
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 6: huge game as a return man. So Rashid Shaheed is

2408
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 6: probably where I could sprinkle a little bit. Again, can

2409
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 6: you get outside of the box a quarterback? If Shaheed

2410
01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 6: had a big return via special teams, which certainly we've

2411
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 6: seen it this market, then that could be an area

2412
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 6: that I think you get some pretty good juice on.

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01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 2: I would probably go Kenneth Walker.

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01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 5: I don't know how much of what dark horse that is,

2415
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 5: but I think they are going to lean on him

2416
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 5: quite a bit in this football game.

2417
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 8: I've put money on DeMarcus Lawrence at plus nine thousand.

2418
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 2: Thought about that, Yeah, this could be like.

2419
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 8: One of those guys, DeMarcus Lawrence, somebody on the Seattle defense.

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01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 6: I feel like that could be a guy that maybe

2421
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 6: if they make Archis Jones had some big places then

2422
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 6: defensively this season, you know Julian Love in the second area. Yeah,

2423
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 6: so I could listen to that.

2424
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 8: Okay, your Super Bowl predictions? James did answer this question, Okay,

2425
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 8: who are you picking to win the game and your

2426
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 8: final score?

2427
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 5: Let's get James open this up here.

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01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 2: Look at that, Oh, Patriots twenty four twenty three.

2429
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 6: He says, there you go, twenty three to twenty one Patriots.

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01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 5: I think I made the prediction earlier this week. I'm

2431
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 5: stilling with it twenty three to thirteen Seahawks, and.

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01:57:56,600 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 8: I will take Seahawks thirty Patriots twenty four. That means

2433
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 8: your super Bowl MVP, not your dark horse. Your super

2434
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 8: Bowl MVP is.

2435
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 6: Just so easy to pick the quarterback, which I hate

2436
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 6: to do. You know, chrischigan Zalez is kind of intriguing

2437
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 6: one for me. Obviously made the huge interception there to

2438
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 6: ice the AFC title game. You know, could he make

2439
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 6: a play that changed his game? Marcus Shones is a

2440
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 6: return man for New England. I mean, I'll go May

2441
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 6: because I'm picking them, but I wish we would just

2442
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 6: get off only going to the quarterback and I go

2443
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 6: back to the cold Super Bowl Dominic Road should have

2444
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 6: been the MVP, not Peyton Manning.

2445
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Jackson Smith and Jigba. He has

2446
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 5: had an unbelievable year. Right now, he is playing better

2447
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 5: than any wide receiver in the NFL. They're going to

2448
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 5: lean on him and Kenneth Walker. I could see him

2449
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 5: with a big game and just because here's the thing, though,

2450
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 5: are a bunch of NFL riters that have been covering

2451
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 5: this sport forever and ever. If Sam Darnold, even if

2452
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 5: Smith and Jigba has two touchdowns on one hundred and

2453
01:58:57,120 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 5: fifteen yards receiving, if all that comes from Sam Darnald

2454
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 5: and he throws for three touchdowns in two hundred and

2455
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 5: sixty plus yards, are.

2456
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 2: They not going to give him the MVP after his career.

2457
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 6: That's the only thing is I would love to give

2458
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 6: it to Jason. I feel like if he puts up

2459
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:11,440
Speaker 6: big numbers, they're like, well, actually the guy who threw

2460
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 6: it to him probably should go. How does a wide

2461
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 6: out win it over a quarterback? They need the quarterback

2462
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 6: to have thrown an interception or.

2463
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 2: Two, or does almost all the yards go to the

2464
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 2: one guy?

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01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:21,880
Speaker 5: Maybe he has like nine catches for one hundred and

2466
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 5: thirty yards and ranking tackles and as a couple of

2467
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 5: scores or highlight reel things.

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01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, something like that. Maybe he's James White out of

2469
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:28,040
Speaker 6: the back.

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01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 5: I think Seattle wins, though the narrative is Sam Darnald here,

2471
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 5: he's come from his career to be a Super Bowl I.

2472
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 6: Guess trust Donald, I don't. I mean you guys picked, Yeah,

2473
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 6: I don't trust Donald.

2474
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 5: What is he giving you to not trust?

2475
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 2: In the last two years?

2476
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 6: This is a little different stage.

2477
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 2: He didn't play his best in the playoff game from

2478
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 2: Minnesota last year.

2479
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 5: I'll give you that, but he's been great the last

2480
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 5: two years.

2481
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 6: Still makes me a little shaky.

2482
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:57,600
Speaker 8: On the Super Bowl, Stay James selected gen Drake may

2483
01:59:57,680 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 8: as his Super Bowl MVP. By the way, I will

2484
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 8: go with I think it's a long shot, but I

2485
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 8: will I will take the odd situation on st JSN

2486
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 8: gets the MVP.

2487
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 5: Last thing for me, you guys that the over under

2488
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 5: on the anthem is exactly two minutes.

2489
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 6: It's our singer again. Did you say Charlie Pooth?

2490
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 5: Yep, Yeah, I like Charlie Poop, one of my son's favorites.

2491
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,840
Speaker 8: That's usually it's like two oh one, two minutes on

2492
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:28,400
Speaker 8: the on the even is I think I'll go under.

2493
02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:30,240
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go over because I think these guys at

2494
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl they like to really put some emphasis

2495
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:37,560
Speaker 5: on it and really belt it out, make it last.

2496
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 6: Take enjoy the spotlight while you got it. I guess

2497
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:41,840
Speaker 6: all right.

2498
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 5: Uh, that's what we've got so far for the super

2499
02:00:44,680 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 5: Bowl coming up on Sunday. Coming up at a moment,

2500
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 5: we will wrap up the week, get ready for what

2501
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 5: we'll be viewing tonight and tomorrow as well a lot

2502
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 5: of college basketball on tap. I will put James's picture.

2503
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 5: Should I keep these for posterity or do you like to?

2504
02:00:58,880 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 10: Sure?

2505
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 2: I'll just put them in my seal?

2506
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 6: What the he did?

2507
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 5: That was just for Kevin though, wasn't it? Coming up

2508
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:08,680
Speaker 5: at the moment, we'll wrap up.

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02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 2: The week for you. Ninety three five not damn a man?

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02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 8: Yo?

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02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 6: Sure?

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02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 12: Listening to the Fan Morning show on Sports Radio ninety

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02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 12: three five and one seven.

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02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:36,880
Speaker 5: Good morning. It's the last show before the Super Bowl

2515
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 5: is played in Santa Clara at the forty nine Ers

2516
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 5: home Stadium coming up on Sunday evening.

2517
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing the Seahawks and the Patriots.

2518
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:47,120
Speaker 5: And I don't know anybody around here can want the

2519
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:50,200
Speaker 5: New England Patriots to find any success whatsoever?

2520
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:53,440
Speaker 2: Did say your song?

2521
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 6: Did I do that correctly? Did pretty good?

2522
02:01:56,480 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 2: Say it again? Not bad? Very good.

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02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 6: You do the zubots pronunciation again of viza zubots?

2524
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 11: Is that right?

2525
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 2: Sound what I keep hearing?

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02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:08,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well that's not how it was spelled, isn't it.

2527
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 5: It's just in some of the European countries pronounced it

2528
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 5: just a little bit differently.

2529
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, and our language is perfect, right.

2530
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:20,160
Speaker 5: Yes, that's that always works, right. One reminder, we were

2531
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 5: talking about Super Bowl MVPs. There is a Super Bowl

2532
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 5: MVP playing in that game on Sunday. Remember Cooper Cup

2533
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 5: was the MVP when the Rams beat the Bengals.

2534
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 2: Was it really Yeah?

2535
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, he had a obviously decent performance.

2536
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 5: Then you know, he had eight catch I looked it up,

2537
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:41,600
Speaker 5: eight catches ninety two yards and two touchdowns because we

2538
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 5: were talking about uh Smith and Jigbit and what he

2539
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 5: might have to do. Well, there you go, there's a

2540
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,839
Speaker 5: wide receiver eight catches ninety two yards and two touchdowns.

2541
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 6: God, it was a great game, great game. Bengals had

2542
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 6: such such a chance to win that.

2543
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 5: So that's coming up on Sunday evening, and we got

2544
02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 5: the college basketball coming up tomorrow. I know that you'll

2545
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 5: be tuned into the Notre Dame game at four o'clock

2546
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 5: in the afternoon.

2547
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:06,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't wait. Florida State, come on now. Good

2548
02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 6: opportunity back at home. Season turns around, compet well at

2549
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 6: Louisville for quite a while. Seventeen and a half point

2550
02:03:12,040 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 6: underdog was humbling to see, but competed nicely there in

2551
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 6: the Yum Center.

2552
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 5: Be interesting to see Indiana coming off the loss to USC.

2553
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 5: But they'll be playing Wisconsin. Wisconsin has been playing better.

2554
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 5: It's at assembly haul. Indiana has been playing really well lately.

2555
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 5: Do they get back on the winning train against Wisconsin.

2556
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 5: I think they probably do.

2557
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to control home floor. You got Wisconsin tomorrow,

2558
02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 6: you got Oregon Monday. Again, Oregon's not good. That will

2559
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:41,200
Speaker 6: be the fiftieth anniversary honor into the seventy six team

2560
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 6: in the building on Monday. And then you get kind

2561
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:48,400
Speaker 6: of back into your more of your gauntlet here in February,

2562
02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:51,840
Speaker 6: and Purdue is kind of approaching the same level again.

2563
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 6: Purdue's got a really bad Oregon team. If you look

2564
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,440
Speaker 6: at the point totals some of these Oregon losses, it

2565
02:03:56,560 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 6: is absurd. And then after this starts quite the stretch.

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02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 6: I think they're at Nebraska, I want to say, coming

2567
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 6: up on Tuesday there. I believe it's in Michigan pretty

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Speaker 6: soon after that. So yeah, it gets very difficult here

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Speaker 6: as we get into February for these teams.

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Speaker 2: And chance for Purdue to start kind of getting back

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Speaker 2: in their groove too. They should have.

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Speaker 5: An easy time against Oregon. We'll see what happens over

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Speaker 5: the weekend there anything else you in particular looking forward

2574
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Speaker 5: to this weekend in the Super Bowl and you're gonna

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Speaker 5: be watching waste management open down in Phoenix.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean will be. I love it. The golf

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Speaker 6: season starts now.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I shout out to Joel Damon. I was nice scene

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Speaker 6: yesterday in the sixteenth when he chipped in, did you

2581
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Speaker 6: see Travis Kelcey's by the way, you know, nice swing?

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Speaker 11: Up to me?

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Speaker 6: It was Maddy Bowen. That's when I know it's reached

2584
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Speaker 6: quite the wow. I was like, you want to talk golf,

2585
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Speaker 6: but were about fourth kid right there. I thought, for

2586
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Speaker 6: a second, we're having to postpone the old tying of

2587
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Speaker 6: you know what here for a little while here.

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Speaker 5: Did you see that swing by Travis in a nice swing?

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Speaker 6: A Winteralympics opening ceremony two o'clock today and we are

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Speaker 6: an Olympic family, so we enjoy watching that, so I

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Speaker 6: know we'll definitely do that. The Lindsay Vaughn story is incredible. She,

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Speaker 6: I guess, did a training run this morning and finished

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Speaker 6: the training run forty I know is over there reported

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Speaker 6: that I think of the time she was like seventh

2595
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Speaker 6: of the eleven times she was eleventh. Right now for

2596
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Speaker 6: the times that we're we're finishing the run again torn

2597
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Speaker 6: acl right, which is insane. Her finishing it, I think

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Speaker 6: is probably more of the story. So definitely watch that

2599
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Speaker 6: and then Pacers tonight. I don't really care because Zubots

2600
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Speaker 6: has already been ruled out, but like, will they play

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Speaker 6: him at all? Before the All Star break? They played

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Speaker 6: Sunday afternoon against the.

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Speaker 13: Rapt'll give me some extended paternity leave, so will they

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Speaker 13: play you know, how quickly do they go tank or

2605
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Speaker 13: do they As crazy as that sounds, four games before

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Speaker 13: the All Star break.

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Speaker 6: So Sunday afternoon, that's the pastries. You'll get that before

2608
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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. If you're tired of the Super Bowl

2609
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Speaker 6: pregame show, you got Pacers Raptors three o'clock on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: All right, we're looking forward to that. It's going to

2611
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Speaker 5: be a busy weekend of sports. Obviously, we talk about

2612
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Speaker 5: Butler tomorrow. That will be heard right here on ninety

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Speaker 5: three five, one oh seven five of the Fan beginning

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Speaker 5: at one thirty with the airtime with Mark Minner and

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Speaker 5: Nick Gardner, and so we'll look forward.

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Speaker 2: To hearing that one as well.

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Speaker 5: Jake will be on from noon to three his thoughts

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Speaker 5: on the Hall of Fame and the latest on the

2619
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Speaker 5: trade that happened while he was on the air yesterday.

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Speaker 5: And then of course jamb comes your way at three

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Speaker 5: o'clock today. Other than that, enjoy your super Bowl weekend,

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Speaker 5: have a great time. Mark, get some rest. I know

2623
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Speaker 5: it's been a full week for you. We're glad to

2624
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Speaker 5: have you back. Thank you, Rest up and get ready

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Speaker 5: for next week. Here on ninety three five and one

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Speaker 5: oh seven five to the Fan,