Speaker 1: Why from Vall Heartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.
Speaker 2: We're talking low key ladies and gentlemen, which may or
Speaker 2: may not be different than a war on the down low.
Speaker 2: I don't actually know if there is a difference. I
Speaker 2: do know that a low key war is not actually
Speaker 2: a thing. I mean, if you just want to sit
Speaker 2: there and keep up the economic sanctions and slowly starve around,
Speaker 2: you can. But these are people who are fine with
Speaker 2: being starved. They're fine with waiting you out. They've actually
Speaker 2: said they're fine with waiting you out. Maybe that's their
Speaker 2: whole plan, the belief that they can, the belief that
Speaker 2: it's no problem, no issue, they can last because the
Speaker 2: United States can't last. Isn't that their game? Isn't that
Speaker 2: their approach? The United States can't handle the idea that
Speaker 2: somehow oil prices will go up.
Speaker 1: I think we can. I just think you have.
Speaker 2: To sell people on the idea, something that President Trump
Speaker 2: did not do. It's amazing the amount of things that
Speaker 2: could have been thwarted in all of this if the
Speaker 2: White House had just done the basics. But dear Lord,
Speaker 2: we actually think that low key is a thing. And
Speaker 2: if it is a thing, exactly how does it work.
Speaker 2: I'm a man with questions. And while Axios is talking
Speaker 2: about low key, how about the Wall Street Journal with
Speaker 2: a story that doesn't connect at all.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break this down for you.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you, guys.
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Speaker 2: Tony Kats Tony Kats Today and get in there, get
Speaker 2: in the chatroom. Good to see everybody. As everything's building
Speaker 2: up and people are piling in. Axios reported that President
Speaker 2: Trump's plan is to be low key. We are only
Speaker 2: seven negotiating with them. We are just watching around with
Speaker 2: its huge inflation and the fact that they have no money.
Speaker 2: Their economy has been in bad shape for forever. It
Speaker 2: hasn't stopped them from engaging in bombings of US bases.
Speaker 2: Can the strategy, the siege mentality actually work, Sure it can,
Speaker 2: of course it can. But anytime the Iranian regime feels uppity,
Speaker 2: are you okay with taking a series of bombs in
Speaker 2: a series of drones to a base in Jordan or
Speaker 2: to an area in Kuwait or somewhere in Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 2: et cetera. That's the question. Low key, that's what you said.
Speaker 2: If that's so low key means okay, that's low key
Speaker 2: all of this. So you can possibly keep the strait
Speaker 2: somewhat open. As long as oil is under seventy five
Speaker 2: dollars a barrel, everything's going to be all right.
Speaker 1: That's not the right approach, mister president.
Speaker 2: By the way, oil is at eighty one dollars and
Speaker 2: fifteen cents a barrel, So again, not the right approach.
Speaker 2: And I know what you're saying, Tony. You got to
Speaker 2: give the president time. You don't understand he's playing nine
Speaker 2: D chess. Sometimes the man can just be wrong. Can
Speaker 2: I help you?
Speaker 1: The people out there are like Senator.
Speaker 2: Chris Murphy and others, these progressives who want to see
Speaker 2: America lose. They're amongst the most disgusting people on planet Earth.
Speaker 2: The President isn't approaching this right, and you got to
Speaker 2: stop pretending that he is. You got to stop loving
Speaker 2: on him so much, doting on him so much that
Speaker 2: you don't look at reality.
Speaker 1: Would you cut it out?
Speaker 2: I get the argument the press never notices when their
Speaker 2: guy is falling apart Joe Biden, as Hunter Biden describes,
Speaker 2: it has prostate cancer and it has spread. It should
Speaker 2: be understood that Democrats were willing to lie to let
Speaker 2: that guy be president. He'd be dying in the Oval
Speaker 2: Office right now. They didn't care. They didn't care near
Speaker 2: a tandent and caringe John Pierre and all the rest.
Speaker 2: They didn't give a good HOLI damn you think Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris gave a damn. They needed that debate to happen
Speaker 2: more than oxygen to move him out. They would have
Speaker 2: let this happen to the country anything for power reason
Speaker 2: number nine.
Speaker 1: But Jillian, why, I'm not one of them.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be somebody who looks at the way
Speaker 2: Trump is handling this war and say, hey, he's got
Speaker 2: he's got a maneuver in a plant.
Speaker 1: You just watch how this all works out. I'm watching.
Speaker 1: It's not working out the way I would like.
Speaker 2: Hey, look, if the president wants to continue to go
Speaker 2: down this road, he can. You want to deal with
Speaker 2: an idea of economic pressure and low key, you knock
Speaker 2: yourself out, go right ahead, But don't tell me about
Speaker 2: negotiations anymore.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me about any of it.
Speaker 2: Don't put Scott Besen out there to lie, to mean,
Speaker 2: don't put jd Vance out there to be ridiculous on
Speaker 2: when it comes to foreign policy, don't do it. I
Speaker 2: want to see you win. I don't know why you
Speaker 2: don't want to see you win. I don't know why
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: This this way. We should be clear that there are
Speaker 1: no deals to be made.
Speaker 2: So if you keep telling me, old man, they want
Speaker 2: to make a deal so badly, it's a lie.
Speaker 1: Stop lying. Stomp it.
Speaker 2: How dare you, tony? President Trump is the guy who
Speaker 2: makes the deals. That's what he does. He makes deals.
Speaker 2: There's no deal to make. Why not grow up? Stop
Speaker 2: being ridiculous, Stop being in the cult, stop buying into
Speaker 2: the klan. No better than all these lefties who told
Speaker 2: me that Joe Biden was of good health. Same garbage.
Speaker 2: Not interested in the garbage. There's no deal to be made.
Speaker 2: There's no one to make a deal with. I have
Speaker 2: been somebody discussing that when you were talking about the
Speaker 2: Iranian regime. These are people who want the caliphate right,
Speaker 2: they want they are Islamists and they want to see
Speaker 2: a total take over, total control. Somebody had written it
Speaker 2: was a really really good piece about the idea that
Speaker 2: and I can't remember they're on substack and I can't
Speaker 2: remember their name. It's killing me that what if it
Speaker 2: isn't about that. It is about power, but a different
Speaker 2: kind of power. It's about staying in power for survival.
Speaker 2: That if we were to take a look at the
Speaker 2: Iranian regime and see how fractured it is, there's nobody
Speaker 2: making decisions there. And we've already discussed this because the
Speaker 2: people making the decisions are the members of the IRGC,
Speaker 2: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Court. But the IRGC is not
Speaker 2: working in tandem and concert with each other. They're their
Speaker 2: own factions, their own fiefdoms. That seems obvious too that
Speaker 2: what we have had happen here is that because of
Speaker 2: the bombings that we have done, which have been successful,
Speaker 2: let's not kid ourselves. Don't believe the Chris van Hollins
Speaker 2: or the Chris Murphy's or any of these beta male progressives,
Speaker 2: we have done great damage to Iran. To say otherwise
Speaker 2: is laughable in its ignorance. And what we have done
Speaker 2: is we have eliminated the ability for a singular person
Speaker 2: to be a person of power, and so Therefore, the
Speaker 2: idea of a leader or leadership as a whole has
Speaker 2: been replaced by what I guess one could call faction.
Speaker 1: We're dealing with a group of IRGC members.
Speaker 2: Over here, in a group of IERGC members over there,
Speaker 2: and on, then there's this group over there, and then
Speaker 2: there's that guy over there.
Speaker 1: He's just nuts.
Speaker 2: Nobody even talks to that guy, and they're all acting
Speaker 2: in their own best interests to be able to create
Speaker 2: their own wants. Some of these wants are about power
Speaker 2: and control and money. Some of these wants are about power, control, money,
Speaker 2: and the caliphate. Not everybody may be connected on that
Speaker 2: ideological tip when it comes to survival, so they all
Speaker 2: act in independent.
Speaker 1: Ways in order to best achieve this.
Speaker 2: Then there are those parts of the IRGC that are
Speaker 2: working with those outside of Iran to be able to
Speaker 2: move sanctioned oil to them to get sold, as we
Speaker 2: saw from someone in Turkey making millions of dollars that way.
Speaker 1: A lot of people working.
Speaker 2: In a lot of different areas, all for their own interest,
Speaker 2: and none of those interests involved making a deal with
Speaker 2: the United States.
Speaker 1: Who cares about that money's made the other way, the
Speaker 1: other side that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Matter, especially if you're gonna calculate that Trump's gonna be
Speaker 2: all low key on the thing and nobody is going
Speaker 2: to wake up to find that they've been bombed to death.
Speaker 2: No beepers are gonna go off, no buildings are gonna explode.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be no guided missiles or drones from the Israelis.
Speaker 1: Nah.
Speaker 2: Now, there's no pressure at all. There's money to be
Speaker 2: made until there's not until they are stopped, until they
Speaker 2: are thwarted. There is no doubt that the Iranian desire
Speaker 2: is the end of the United States and Israel. But
Speaker 2: if we get a little more granular, they could argue
Speaker 2: that the desire is to get rid of the United
Speaker 2: States and Israel, or certainly US or Israeli power in
Speaker 2: the region, so they can be the power in the region.
Speaker 2: And when you're the power in the re and you
Speaker 2: can set your own price for everything. If you think
Speaker 2: Iran is a problem without a nuclear weapon, imagine them
Speaker 2: with a nuclear weapon. Which is why when we go
Speaker 2: back to Tucker Carlson, or we go back to Marjorie
Speaker 2: Taylor Green or Thomas Massey, none of them are America. First.
Speaker 2: They're so full of crap it's to be believed. They're
Speaker 2: full of it. They're not America first. If you don't
Speaker 2: believe in ending this regime, you are non America first.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know how other people define America first.
Speaker 2: I define it as us over the terrorists. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that that was such a huge stretch. But Oran
Speaker 2: never did anything to us. We shouldn't bother with them.
Speaker 1: This is a forever war.
Speaker 2: That is Marjorie Taylor Green is the Karen of her generation.
Speaker 2: She might as well be a leftist wine mom from
Speaker 2: the suburbs. Oran never did anything to us. It is
Speaker 2: an argument too stupid to actually be taken seriously. Taking
Speaker 2: out the regime matters. It's my take. I don't think
Speaker 2: low Key does that. I think it actually allows them
Speaker 2: to figure out other ways.
Speaker 1: To profit and to be a problem.
Speaker 2: Now we could take in another direction and we could
Speaker 2: discuss the fact that their economy is cracking. They have
Speaker 2: massive problems. We do have huge economic sanctions. We've applied
Speaker 2: massive economic pressure. Maybe we shouldn't have given them any
Speaker 2: money when we signed the memorandum of understanding. And certainly
Speaker 2: we can't listen to the Wall Street Journal when they say, oh,
Speaker 2: the Iranians want one hundreds of billions of dollars in
Speaker 2: order to reopen the straight.
Speaker 1: This is their argument.
Speaker 2: This was the Wall Street Journal headline, and it read
Speaker 2: Trump thought opening the Straight of Hormuz was imminent. Iran
Speaker 2: had other plans. Start with the baseline. Don't you ever
Speaker 2: take an article from the Wall Street Journal at face value,
Speaker 2: especially an article that only discusses sources. Senior AIDS, I
Speaker 2: don't know what their sources are. I must tell you
Speaker 2: that I don't know what their sources are. For weeks,
Speaker 2: President Trump has been laying the groundwork to declare victory
Speaker 2: in Iran should Tehran fully reopen the Strait of Hormuz,
Speaker 2: even floating the idea privately to Senior AIDS that he's
Speaker 2: willing to walk away without a nuclear deal. At that moment,
Speaker 2: I stopped. I have always known, like you've always known,
Speaker 2: the President Trump could declare victory at any time. He'll
Speaker 2: call anything he wants victory. This is nothing new. We
Speaker 2: are people who understand the two rules of Trump. The
Speaker 2: first rule of TRUMPSM is Trump wins. The second rule
Speaker 2: of TRUMPSM.
Speaker 1: Is that a deal can always be made as long
Speaker 1: as it adheres to the first rule of trump Ism.
Speaker 1: We know this, We're all down for this, we understand it.
Speaker 1: Walk away without a nuclear deal. But he can't do that.
Speaker 2: He said, uh Aaran will never have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: This is a legacy he's talking about here. He's willing
Speaker 2: to tarnish the whole legacy by allowing them to enrich uranium.
Speaker 2: So we're clear, he leaves the area and they start
Speaker 2: enriching uranium, legacy, shot to hell, John, I don't care
Speaker 2: what his supporters say.
Speaker 1: I don't care what he says. I would laugh in
Speaker 1: his face.
Speaker 2: No legacy if they enrich uranium, if they rebuild a centrifuge.
Speaker 1: None. So, no, he can't be willing.
Speaker 2: To leave even if they have a nuclear weapon or
Speaker 2: the ability to make a nuclear weapon. Now you say
Speaker 2: to me, Tony, I thought he obliterated their nuclear capability
Speaker 2: at Naton's at Fourdeaux and Isfahan.
Speaker 1: That's what he said.
Speaker 2: Words coming back to haunt him because he couldn't keep
Speaker 2: his powder dry on the subject. Oh please, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong in my frustration, don't get me wrong in
Speaker 2: my pleasure of seeing those three areas bomb da hell.
Speaker 1: Making it more difficult. This is a good thing. I
Speaker 1: supported it, then I support it now, and I say bravo.
Speaker 2: But don't say obliterated and then come back to the
Speaker 2: idea that you got to keep doing it. Don't double
Speaker 2: speak and triple speaking and talk about deals and all
Speaker 2: the jazz. You just sound ridiculous and you're making yourself
Speaker 2: look look weak. You are, you are, But I am
Speaker 2: not about to buy into these The story this reporting
Speaker 2: from the Wall Street Journal that Iran has got all
Speaker 2: the cards and they want hundreds of billions of dollars
Speaker 2: in the US to pull out and then they'll open
Speaker 2: the straight Because Trump is so desperate for lower oil
Speaker 2: prices that'll do anything going into the midterms. I could
Speaker 2: argue that he's willing to let things sit for a
Speaker 2: few months until the midterms are over and try and
Speaker 2: have fairly okay oil prices.
Speaker 1: They could argue that's even a strategy.
Speaker 2: I could argue that the low key and just waiting
Speaker 2: them out economically is a strategy. It's not a strategy
Speaker 2: for the long term. Walking away is not a strategy.
Speaker 2: Low key is not a strategy for the long term.
Speaker 2: In the end, the deal doesn't have to be made
Speaker 2: with Iran. The deal has to be made with Saudi
Speaker 2: Arabia and Bakrain and the UAE and Jordan. They are
Speaker 2: the ones who have to get this problem done with
Speaker 2: because it's theirs. Just like we made Russia NATO's problem.
Speaker 2: We have to make Goran the Middle East problem. They
Speaker 2: have to handle it. We were discussing this last week
Speaker 2: and I'm more and more convinced that this is the
Speaker 2: right course. You have to get them out, you have
Speaker 2: to get the regime out, and that's the deal that
Speaker 2: the President has to make. But if he walks away
Speaker 2: with them being able to even think about a nuclear weapon,
Speaker 2: that is legacy shattered and not Trump's want.
Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today.
Speaker 2: I'll keep it in the military family and talk about
Speaker 2: this leaker, the story of this secretary where the Pentagon
Speaker 2: has accused the former Secretary of I believe Secretary of
Speaker 2: the Air Force of leaking information about Air Force one,
Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today an absolute pleasure. Sean Park
Speaker 2: now as Pentagon spokespersons that effective immediately, the Department of
Speaker 2: Wars revoked former Secretary of the Air Force Frank Kendall's
Speaker 2: eligibility for access to classified information and his ability to
Speaker 2: hold any sensitive position. This action follows his unauthorized disclosure
Speaker 2: of classified information regarding Air Force one's capabilities to a
Speaker 2: media outlet. Safeguarding classified information is a non negotiable duty. Well,
Speaker 2: that's correct, that is absolutely correct. Now this goes back
Speaker 2: to Trump and the administration putting out a subpoena for
Speaker 2: New York Times journalists because the New York Times, remember
Speaker 2: we talked about this at the press conference when the
Speaker 2: President was in Turkey, he was in Achora, and we're like,
Speaker 2: are they trying to get him killed by talking about
Speaker 2: Air Force one? And why aren't you doing this? And
Speaker 2: why aren't doing that? What's wrong with Air Force one?
Speaker 1: What were they doing?
Speaker 2: Because they reported that the new seven seven gifted by
Speaker 2: Katar was swapped out because of security precaution, and then
Speaker 2: the reporters were like, well it wasn't retrofitted with sufficient
Speaker 2: security measures, and then there are questions about whether it
Speaker 2: had the proper missile defense systems and other modifications. If
Speaker 2: that information was leaked out, yeah, goodbye, and I think
Speaker 2: it should be jail time. And then of course we
Speaker 2: asked the question, It's one thing to have the information,
Speaker 2: it's another thing to report the information. Yes, in a world,
Speaker 2: in a nation of free speech, not a world of
Speaker 2: free speech. The reporter can report they didn't get it
Speaker 2: through any illicit mean got the information?
Speaker 1: Should they? Well, that's a conversation for a bourbon.
Speaker 2: But it's not enough to just take away the classified
Speaker 2: opportunities of the leak or they've got to be charges.
Speaker 2: They got to be put through hell and then some
Speaker 2: in a very very large scale way. Leaking information is
Speaker 2: just not acceptable on any level, and we need to
Speaker 2: go after leakers with everything in us. And they have
Speaker 2: to suffer. They have to suffer terribly. Absolutely, they have
Speaker 2: to suffer, and so they should. Oh, we never should
Speaker 2: have taken the plane from Qatar, and the idea that
Speaker 2: we would fly at air Force one that doesn't have
Speaker 2: all the proper safety protocols criminally insane.
Speaker 1: If indeed that's the way it flew. Uh representative of
Speaker 1: COSU Cortez wants to change the game. Keep it here.
Speaker 1: This is Tony KX today.
Speaker 2: Nothing says everything is going super well for the political left.
Speaker 1: Nothing says everything is going super well. That's not what
Speaker 1: I wanted.
Speaker 2: Nothing says, as things repeat themselves, everything is going super
Speaker 2: well for Tony. Tony Katz today, guys, a pleasure, Sorry
Speaker 2: about that. Uh, nothing says everything is going super well
Speaker 2: for the political left, like Joe Scarborough on MS now
Speaker 2: screaming at Democrats.
Speaker 3: But please, I don't need people telling me, oh, you
Speaker 3: have to just turn a blind eye to people saying
Speaker 3: that women getting rate on October seventh didn't matter in
Speaker 3: the grand scheme of things that no Americans aren't going
Speaker 3: to support that.
Speaker 4: This is not about me. This is about the Democrats
Speaker 4: once again fumbling.
Speaker 1: The football on the two yard.
Speaker 4: Line when they have a chance to make great gains
Speaker 4: but being so woke.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to.
Speaker 4: Call it woke one, woke two, or woke three, but
Speaker 4: being too woke to call out the obvious.
Speaker 3: I swear to God, it's really it's crazy that we're
Speaker 3: even having this conversation.
Speaker 2: He's yelling, and I think he's yelling because he understands
Speaker 2: that the madness is coming from inside the house and
Speaker 2: it's going to cost them the midterms. Now, I'm going
Speaker 2: to dig into this in a little bit, what the
Speaker 2: numbers say versus what the reality says.
Speaker 1: But what is he talking about? Woke one, woke two,
Speaker 1: woke three? So glad you woke asked. This was Alexandria A.
Speaker 1: Cassio Cortes. She was on with Jonathan Carl on ABC.
Speaker 2: And it should be understood that this is, I believe,
Speaker 2: the first time she has done a sit down TV interview,
Speaker 2: network interview.
Speaker 1: I think in two years, you understand that she sees
Speaker 1: herself and it can't have been two years, could have
Speaker 1: been two years.
Speaker 2: She sees herself as a presidential contender. There's a twenty
Speaker 2: twenty eight conversation about alexandri Acasio Cortez. There's a Senate conversation.
Speaker 2: She could run against Chuck Schumer and send him packing.
Speaker 2: That much I believe could happen. I think the presidency
Speaker 2: thing is still kind of dreamy, which is to say,
Speaker 2: a dream for her, a nightmare for.
Speaker 1: The rest of us. But she said this. She's talking
Speaker 1: to Jonathan Carl on ABC and she said this, by.
Speaker 5: The way, just a quick definitional thing. What, in your
Speaker 5: mind is the difference between socialism and communism?
Speaker 1: Oh oh wait, wait, wait wait, I'll get to this.
Speaker 2: I will get to this, but I need to get
Speaker 2: to where she's talking about. Woke one, did you or
Speaker 2: did you not hear about this where she's talking about
Speaker 2: woke one point.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a true thing.
Speaker 2: Here here she is right here, and we'll play it all.
Speaker 2: I'll get to it, I promise. Let's start where we start.
Speaker 5: So you have Wisconsin coming up next, Francesca Hong, who
Speaker 5: is the Democratic Socialist of America supporting candidate for governor.
Speaker 5: Are you you haven't endorsed her? Are you going to?
Speaker 6: No, I haven't endorsed in that race. My focus has
Speaker 6: been in winning back to Congress, winning back the House,
Speaker 6: and positioning ourselves to have the best chance possible to
Speaker 6: win the Senate. So I've been focused on those legislative
Speaker 6: What do.
Speaker 5: You make of those controversial statements. I'm sure you've seen.
Speaker 5: I mean, she's you know, the Thanksgiving dust up, she says,
Speaker 5: she doesn't you know, still believe that. But you know
Speaker 5: the abolished prisons, abolished police, which is also positions that
Speaker 5: have been taken by a lot of the progressive candidates
Speaker 5: who have won. How do you get around that? Yeah,
Speaker 5: not positions that are by right.
Speaker 6: I mean I think that a lot of these races,
Speaker 6: even right now, they'll have a tendency to be nationalized.
Speaker 6: But these races ultimately are local and all politics are local.
Speaker 6: My understanding is that is that Francesca Hang has made
Speaker 6: clear her present stances.
Speaker 5: To her moved away from one, right, she's.
Speaker 1: Moved away from it.
Speaker 6: And I have a local city councilman that has this
Speaker 6: saying woke one was crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh my woke one?
Speaker 2: What is woke one? And what the bloody hell is
Speaker 2: woke too? And are we on woke tour? Are we
Speaker 2: on woke three or four? I can't keep up. First,
Speaker 2: all politics are local is a very true statement, right.
Speaker 2: We don't question whether or not we agree with the
Speaker 2: statement all politics are local? Was that Tip O'Neil who
Speaker 2: first said that who where does the I know where
Speaker 2: the quote come? I can picture it. But no one
Speaker 2: who's a member of the Democratic Socialist is dealing with.
Speaker 1: Any local anything.
Speaker 2: There are no local subjects thene whatsoever. Everything comes from
Speaker 2: on high, from a group of people who absolutely want
Speaker 2: to do away with the constitution, who wants to do
Speaker 2: away with prisons, and when confronted, cannot answer a single
Speaker 2: question on their own. They can't. They don't have any capacity.
Speaker 2: If you speak to these people, you check out what
Speaker 2: they are really about. They cannot answer a question on
Speaker 2: their own, they don't have it.
Speaker 1: When confronted, they just fall apart.
Speaker 2: These socialists are amongst the most nutty and the most
Speaker 2: dangerous and the most ignorantly stupid group of people who
Speaker 2: ever existed. This is the co chair of the dssay,
Speaker 2: in her own words.
Speaker 1: But we do believe in taxing the hell out of millionaires. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Well what is taxing the hell out of them? Mean?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: Again, I don't have like a solid but should I think?
Speaker 1: But shouldn't you?
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're the co chair, if you're the
Speaker 2: co chair of the DSA, shouldn't you be more specific
Speaker 2: than just taxing the hell out of something?
Speaker 1: What exactly do you mean?
Speaker 6: So again, it's democracy, right, and we have to look
Speaker 6: at what we need to spend and what we need.
Speaker 1: We don't want to depend on the existence of millionaires
Speaker 1: because that means people are still getting ex.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we need to look at what we need
Speaker 6: to pay for in the interim, what sort of tax
Speaker 6: base we need for that to happen.
Speaker 2: And she doesn't know what tax the hell out of
Speaker 2: the means because she's not willing to say we're going
Speaker 2: to put a gun to their head and we're going
Speaker 2: to take everything. The millionaire cannot exist because she just said,
Speaker 2: if the millionaire exists, somebody is being exploited. So we
Speaker 2: have to get rid of all the millionaires. Therefore, we
Speaker 2: have to take what is theirs, including putting a gun
Speaker 2: to their head, which is why we run to run
Speaker 2: for office so we can have the guns.
Speaker 1: We run for office so we can have the guns.
Speaker 2: To put it to their head, to be able to
Speaker 2: take their money because they don't deserve it. That's the
Speaker 2: point of the DSA. That's not all politics are local.
Speaker 2: That is their entire agenda. In a nutshell, they don't know.
Speaker 2: They can argue they don't know what they mean by
Speaker 2: tax the hell out of them, but what they mean
Speaker 2: is take everything.
Speaker 1: And after they get the millionaires.
Speaker 2: They'll take down the seven hundred and fifty thousand airs,
Speaker 2: and then they'll take down the five hundred thousand hours,
Speaker 2: and then the fifty thousand airs. They will take all
Speaker 2: the money. That's the goal. That's who they are. So
Speaker 2: is this now woke two point.
Speaker 1: Zero and what in the world is she talking about
Speaker 1: with woke one.
Speaker 2: Point zh woke one point oh? Notice what she's trying
Speaker 2: to do in this conversation. Notice what she is trying
Speaker 2: to say in this conversation about woke. Let me play
Speaker 2: this for you again for the people in the cheap
Speaker 2: seats in communist I.
Speaker 6: Think to me the fundamental difference.
Speaker 2: She's saying that Woke one point oh was yesterday. Now
Speaker 2: we're on to today. Why aren't you focused on today?
Speaker 2: That's the argument. Let's go back and listen to it
Speaker 2: one more time.
Speaker 6: Her present stances to her life.
Speaker 5: She's moved away from one, right.
Speaker 1: She's moved away from it.
Speaker 6: And I have a local city councilman that has this
Speaker 6: saying Woke one was crazy, And I think that what's important.
Speaker 1: Is and why is she smiling and laughing about it?
Speaker 1: She was part of it?
Speaker 2: What is with these radicalized communists and they're constant smiling
Speaker 2: while they look aggressively to take your rights in life
Speaker 2: from you.
Speaker 1: These people are creepy as can be.
Speaker 2: Mom, Donnie's always smiling as he's talking about ending a
Speaker 2: Western civilization.
Speaker 1: Woke one. You see.
Speaker 2: So if you're still talking about those things, you're living
Speaker 2: in past. Why are you talking about what happened yesterday?
Speaker 2: We're on to today. Why are you living in the past?
Speaker 2: Why are you re litigating that. Move on, tell them
Speaker 2: to move on from January sixth Our point is that
Speaker 2: we can't move on from Anthony Fauci. We just got
Speaker 2: the proof that he lied. You want me to move on.
Speaker 2: He's a liar and a fraud. Why isn't he in jail.
Speaker 2: He ruined lives? Move on from woke one point zero.
Speaker 2: You mean during the George Floyd ryots where you burned
Speaker 2: businesses to the ground, you destroyed lives, people got killed,
Speaker 2: and now we're supposed to be like, oh whatever, We're
Speaker 2: on to the new stuff, the new stuff. The old
Speaker 2: stuff was so damn murderous. What new stuff? These people,
Speaker 2: these people are horrifying in every way. You're not wrong.
Speaker 2: One point zero. She's trying to do away with the
Speaker 2: past while positioning herself as a leader. The Democratic Socialists
Speaker 2: are enable or incapable of explaining their positions. I mean,
Speaker 2: this goes back to where we started. You try and
Speaker 2: get a Cossio Cortes to explain the difference between a
Speaker 2: communists and a socialist.
Speaker 5: By the way, just a quick definitional thing, What in
Speaker 5: your mind is the difference between socialism and communist I think,
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 6: The fundamental differences. I mean there's many. One prevailing one
Speaker 6: is democracy, and I believe that democratic socialists are fundamentally
Speaker 6: pro democracy, and we believe in the ballot.
Speaker 1: Box fundamentally pro democracy. Let's take.
Speaker 2: They are fundamentally pro democracy, so they say as opposed
Speaker 2: to the communist.
Speaker 1: Can I ask if anybody believes.
Speaker 2: That if they were pro democracy, how come they're so
Speaker 2: supportive of working with the Islamists.
Speaker 1: Who doesn't believe in democracy at all?
Speaker 2: And never mind that all the socialism always leads to communism,
Speaker 2: which has nothing to do with democracy. What possibly is
Speaker 2: she discussing here? Who does this actually attract? Well, it
Speaker 2: attracts the.
Speaker 1: People who already believe, and certainly it might attract the
Speaker 1: twenty year old this is what we're up against.
Speaker 2: But this is Wilson, what America is seeing, and they
Speaker 2: seem to be to the point that Joe Scarborough was
Speaker 2: making turning against this is some maddening talk. We're going
Speaker 2: to further break this down and explain exactly how rough
Speaker 2: it's going to be for them in the midterm going
Speaker 2: down this road that's coming up. Keep it here, guys,
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today as
Speaker 2: I was reading that story about President Trump and.
Speaker 1: Iran and you know it's gonna be like a low.
Speaker 2: Key war, and I was like, oh, holy heck, low key.
Speaker 2: That's that is something else. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today
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Speaker 2: of them have snacks. I caught this story about Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2: Sanders calls for AI development pause, and I scratched my
Speaker 2: head a little bit and I said, only a low
Speaker 2: rent comie come up with that. Not Hey, have we
Speaker 2: taken a look at safeguards regarding the usage of AI.
Speaker 2: That's not that's a developments pause. You can't you can't
Speaker 2: unring the bell. You're not gonna stop companies from working
Speaker 2: on developing AI technology. You're not gonna stop them from
Speaker 2: dealing with an ever advancing China.
Speaker 1: What kind of thing is this? You want to stop
Speaker 1: that from happening. This is the kind of person.
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders are the kind of guy who would have
Speaker 2: stopped car manufacturers from making cars.
Speaker 1: He would have stopped the Wright Brothers Nope, you cannot fly.
Speaker 1: I need to make sure this is okay and figure
Speaker 1: out how we get money from it. That is that
Speaker 1: is my, That is my Bernie Sanders. It isn't great.
Speaker 1: It is a great but it's not bad. It's not bad.
Speaker 2: How are you gonna what would make government think they
Speaker 2: could do this? You didn't understand anything about the stuff.
Speaker 2: You don't understand anything about it. You're Bernie Sanders. You've
Speaker 2: never created anything in your life. You never signed the
Speaker 2: front of a paycheck. Your whole life is taking government
Speaker 2: money as an elected guy. You've never created anything. Why
Speaker 2: would I listen to you about AI development safeguards is
Speaker 2: a different thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a role for government in that development.
Speaker 2: Stay out of the way, Tommy, you don't know how
Speaker 2: to do anything.
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Kam