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Speaker 1: This is ninety three WIBC, The Kindel and Casey Show

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Speaker 1: with one less Kendall and Casey fill it in today

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Speaker 1: on January second, I'm Brad Clofenstein sitting next to me.

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Speaker 1: The voice you know well, Jerry Lopez, Jerry, Happy New.

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Speaker 2: Year to you, Happy New Year, Happy New Year. It

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Speaker 2: rolls through fast.

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Speaker 1: It does. So, uh, we get to do the Year

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Speaker 1: in Review show because prior to today there were no

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Speaker 1: shows to review a whole year.

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Speaker 2: There we got it should be. There was a lot

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Speaker 2: of things that happen this year, so I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to get into it and a lot of things look

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Speaker 2: forward to Hoosier's big win.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're gonna get We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: them in the ten o'clock hour. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of our listenership is getting up, maybe just a smidge hungover,

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Speaker 1: which and good for them. Yeah, I mean there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a new Hoosiers movie and it's going to

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Speaker 1: be for this team. Well, it was an amazing ride.

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Speaker 2: It's been and in complete disclosure, I told you I

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Speaker 2: still don't feel like a believer. I'm waiting for it

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Speaker 2: to come crashing down. I hope it continues, but geez,

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Speaker 2: It's it's been a wild ride, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: I think just people in Indiana that by nature is

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Speaker 1: the way we are. I mean, I'm I'm a Purdue fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm an unapologetic Purdue fan. And Purdue has been number

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Speaker 1: one in basketball here. You know, each of the last

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Speaker 1: three or four years, I went to the National Championship game,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, Purdue has probably been the consistently best

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Speaker 1: or so. And even then, I still feel like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that carries over to IU. I think it

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Speaker 1: carries over to Butler, to an under dame. That's just

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Speaker 1: who we are. It's time for us to have some swagger, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: There it is so which Jerry. In fact, I was looking,

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Speaker 1: what I'm wearing today is the closest I have to

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Speaker 2: That's that's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: So I have a died in the old Purdue guy.

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Speaker 1: But I have come around full circle this season simply

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Speaker 1: because if I you can do it, Purdue can do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean that might be a stretch, but I see

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Speaker 2: where you're going with whether.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I don't care if it's Minnesota or whoever.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing my blue. I'm a Notre Dame guy. I'm

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Speaker 2: still in mourning right now.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, ah, THEO.

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Speaker 3: How about Miami, Well, that's just it. Miami's still rolling, yep,

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Speaker 3: So kudos to them. So all right, I want to

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Speaker 3: talk to you. So given that we now can look

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Speaker 3: back on twenty twenty five, we have numbers for the

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Speaker 3: whole year, Jerry murders in Indianapolis were down forty five percent.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't I mean, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to say right now, it seems so random that that

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Speaker 2: and we've been talking about the homicides and the murders

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Speaker 1: It's a huge drop. Now, I noticed the numbers one

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Speaker 2: Was that some standard ground stuff maybe testified homicides?

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Speaker 1: Possibly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got self defense, Yeah, because that's still a homicide,

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Speaker 1: So that is probably the difference. But still so one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at this. So this is axios and

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Speaker 2: So did we just have no murders in December?

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Speaker 1: There were not a lot in December. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: We haven't done any of that stuff? I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I hope we can keep it up. I do too,

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Speaker 1: Now where do you live?

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Speaker 2: We side to take you on north side, Hamilton County?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you're Hamilton County. I'm up in the lawrence.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not. I don't know if it's simply

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Speaker 2: That's that's fair. So I used to work at a

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Speaker 2: And there's that road with that has the steak and shake, right,

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Speaker 1: No, So it's curious that they decided to close Circle

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Speaker 2: I mean, so am I crazy? I think half this

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Speaker 1: Some of it. If you've got cheap rent, then you

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Speaker 2: I feel like the same thing with malls these days,

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Speaker 2: right Castleton Square Mall is is it's all going away?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, and I noticed over the holidays, so my sister,

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Speaker 2: Followed the same thing at Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So yeah, fortunately we're in the north side

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Speaker 1: But sadly, there was a bunch of people that believed it.

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Speaker 2: And the problem with something like that is what happened.

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Speaker 2: If you cause panic and people get trampled, ors that

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Speaker 1: There are laws against that. Whether or not they're going

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Speaker 1: And so but yeah, some of these malls, like I

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Speaker 2: Exactly? How are you paying your rent? As Simon wants their.

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Speaker 1: Money, Yes, they have from the state House. That is

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Speaker 1: we go. We're talking about crime statistics everything, all right,

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Speaker 1: So obviously we hold Mayor hogs set of can dounible.

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Speaker 2: Whatever he's doing, then whoever's in charge, whether it's him,

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Speaker 2: let's keep it up.

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Speaker 1: So I noticed last night Ryan Meers was at some

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a prayer visual, but there was an intersider

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Speaker 2: I think if you asked me that he wanted to

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Speaker 2: wait to see what happened with redistricting, well, and I

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Speaker 2: say that because if redistricting would have went through, Andre

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Speaker 2: Carson would be the nominee and Andre Carson would be

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Speaker 2: your mayor of Indianapolis for the rest of your life. Right. Well,

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Speaker 2: since it's not redistricting, Mears can run.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that. Here A little bit

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Speaker 1: later in the show, who's going to be doing what

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Speaker 1: here in the next couple of years. Obviously we're reviewing

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Speaker 1: a little bit of twenty twenty five. Later on in

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Speaker 1: the show, I want to talk about your predictions for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, Jerry.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: So you're listening to the Kendall and Casey Show on

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Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC Brad Clofenstein, Jerry Lopez filling in. When

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Speaker 1: we come back, we will be talking about what's coming

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Speaker 1: up in twenty twenty six. We'll be right back ninety

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Speaker 1: three WIBC, Brad Clofenstein, Jerry Lopez filling in for Kendall

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Speaker 1: and Casey today. I'm assuming they'll be back on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming, so okay, we're gonna go.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go with that that they'll take back their

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Speaker 1: own show, be at their new studio. Jerry, what do

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Speaker 1: you think? This is kind of like having the keys

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Speaker 1: to a new Ferrari.

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Speaker 2: You know, I get to I get to get the

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Speaker 1: Actually, that is exactly what we're doing. They're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Right? I would never have low profile tires in this city.

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Speaker 2: On Meridians sometimes there are some that are just terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Now, they have always been a problem, but we are

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Speaker 1: They are which when I was a kid, Jerry So,

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Speaker 2: Now you know you're in Indianapolis when the roads look

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Speaker 1: Now. I feel like I'm doing a public service. I

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Speaker 2: There was there was when I would get on sixty

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Speaker 1: So I know that there's sometimes pain to get to

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Speaker 2: Well that and the increased traffic right the reroutes and

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, I don't know if you remember, but way

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Speaker 2: Now I've heard, and maybe people on the YouTube chat

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Speaker 1: Only if that pothole has been reported previously. So if

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Speaker 2: No, not a chance, not a chance.

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Speaker 2: There was there was one right there on on on

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Speaker 1: So now did you have to get a new wheel

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Speaker 2: The whole new thing?

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Speaker 1: How much set run?

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Speaker 1: Well? He had to.

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Speaker 2: I got lucky. I swerved around it and posted it.

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Speaker 1: So all right, talking about real challenges in Indianapolis public transportation,

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Speaker 1: Where are you on public transportation? Do we need more

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Speaker 2: I mean, so I feel qualified to speak on this

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Speaker 1: I almost violated that this morning.

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Speaker 2: I know the different projects they have that are I

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Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to public transportation, However, when you're taking

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Or alternatively, you could also just give them an Uber pass.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's absurd.

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Speaker 2: I would I would like to have a high speed

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Speaker 1: That would be Now that if I would have known

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here to get to the whole New countries in

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Speaker 1: Right, and yeah, here we have a train that goes

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Speaker 2: Ever, I've never taken a trade out of Indianapolis. The

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Speaker 1: That was it is that considered public transportation?

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Speaker 1: Took you know where you're going, Ye had dinner, came back,

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Speaker 1: which I know. Like So, Phoenix has some light rail

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Speaker 2: That would be cool. That would be cool.

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Speaker 1: That'd be and maybe that's what Indianapolis need to do.

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Speaker 1: It might just be a matter of marketing where you know,

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Speaker 1: say all right, here's how you can bar crawl.

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Speaker 2: But you know you like to drink beer yet take

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm already interested.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not something like ninety or I think

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Speaker 1: the writers. Heck, just make that thing free.

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Speaker 2: It's listen, They're gonna end up putting kids on on

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Speaker 2: that's what That's what it's gonna We're going to have

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Speaker 2: to increase the ridership somehow.

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Speaker 1: I at least they did. I know that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Obviously you wouldn't expect Lawrence Township to send a bus

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Speaker 2: Now that I support. Right, if we're going to put

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I want to talk to where are

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Speaker 2: Those two dang high everything's to day rent. Listen, the

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Speaker 2: home prices are high and the rent's even worse.

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Speaker 1: So I know that we're I.

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Speaker 2: Have a pretty good job. I don't see how some

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Reason magazine puts out a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of little videos that I've enjoyed here recently, and

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Speaker 1: there was the most recent one that I saw was

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Speaker 1: talking about how zoning and historic districts have a bigger

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Speaker 1: impact on increasing property values and rent more so than

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Speaker 1: anything else, just because it restricts the amount of supply

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Speaker 1: that you have in the housing market. That drives prices up.

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Speaker 1: And then as housing prices go up and it restricts

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Speaker 1: where you can actually put apartments in multi family dwellings,

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Speaker 1: and that raises the price too.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just feel like everywhere I look, there's new

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Speaker 2: apartments going up, and I don't know who the heck

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Speaker 2: is moving into all these buildings. It's a lot of

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Speaker 2: a lot of apartments.

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Speaker 1: Every time I drive through Hamilton County, where you're everywhere

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Speaker 1: I look around, I'm like, who could afford these places?

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Speaker 1: So somebody does, it's probably well Tony Katz lives up

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Speaker 1: there there you go. I'm surprised that Rob or Casey

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Speaker 1: doesn't live there. I mean we know that they're making bank.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's I love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you are listening to the Kendall Casey Show. Brad Clofenstein,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Lopez filling in. Jerry. When we come back, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Central Indiana hidden gyms. So you're a man

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Speaker 1: about town. You're a single guy. I know you like

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Speaker 1: to go out and throw darts and have a beer too.

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Speaker 1: Got some gems here we go, So all right, we'll

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Speaker 1: be right back. Let's turn it over to Jared Lewis

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Speaker 1: in the newsroom ninety three w IBC. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the Kindle of Casey Show. Brad Clofenstein, Jerry Lopez filling in. Now,

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Speaker 1: don't turn the dial. It's not gonna kill you. You can

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Speaker 1: listen to us for one day, Jerry, and how you

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Speaker 1: feel about it.

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Speaker 2: Listen. They're gonna have a lot of fun today, have

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Let us get you through your

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Speaker 2: rough morning, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be fun because technically we don't even

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Speaker 1: work here.

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Speaker 2: That is a fact. You had to ask me how

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Speaker 2: to get here. Where is the studio?

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Speaker 1: So here we are. So, yeah, it's a Friday, it's January. Second.

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Speaker 1: We're having lots of fun talking about stuff that interests

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Speaker 1: us that is really fit to central Indiana. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about Central Indiana hidden gyms. Jerry,

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Speaker 1: let's do it. You are a man about town. You've

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Speaker 1: lived here how long?

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Speaker 2: So I've I was born and raised here in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: but I left for a while there when I was

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Speaker 2: in a service. So I was gone from maybe two

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Speaker 2: thousand to twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so but still so pretty much your whole life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this has been your home base, so you knows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so natured outdoors? What is what is your go to?

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Speaker 1: If you want to go out outside and just clear

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Speaker 1: your head? Where do you go?

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Speaker 2: There is a great walking park in Westfield, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's I'm losing it right now, give me a second,

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Speaker 2: let me look this up.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I'm thinking like for me Fort Benjamin Harrison,

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Speaker 1: that's right behind my house. That's obviously no brainer.

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Speaker 2: I like Cool Creek Park. What is it? Cool Creek Park?

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Speaker 2: Cool Creek Park, so great place. I take my kids there, Man,

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Speaker 2: go walk on trails and hang out. It's really nice.

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Speaker 2: Easy walk. Yeah, people with their dogs. It's pretty nice.

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Speaker 1: Is it busy?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not. It's not overly busy. Plenty of places

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Speaker 2: places to sit and swing with your kiddos and walk

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Speaker 2: around and do whatever. Splash pad or yep, splash pad,

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Speaker 2: huge park, huge playground, so now actually it's free.

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Speaker 1: My daughter and son in law were here last week

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Speaker 1: for Christmas. We went to a place over just off

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Speaker 1: A thirtieth Street and German Church Road. Grassy Creek Park

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Speaker 1: I think was the name of it. Fantastic park for kids.

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Speaker 1: So they had like three different areas based on how

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Speaker 1: old the kids were and all this. It had like

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Speaker 1: the the soft padded I don't even know what it

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Speaker 1: was on making kids.

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Speaker 2: Soft these days exactly. None of these kill bruise themselves

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Speaker 2: out of their knees or anything.

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Speaker 1: Like nobody's gotta break an arm. These kids don't even

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Speaker 1: know how to be kids these days. Very cool park,

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Speaker 1: I know, like the Cocksaut gardens and Caramel is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: They do shows up there.

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Speaker 2: I mean they have concerts on the street out there

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Speaker 2: in Carmel. They post up all the time and those

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Speaker 2: it's something on Maine. It's like concerts on Maine or

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Speaker 2: something like that. Really great events. Yeah, always things going

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Speaker 2: down there. The Armobilia and with the car shows. I've

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Speaker 2: heard about that. Oh it's awesome. It's awesome and literally

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Speaker 2: just park and go walk up and down. They shut

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Speaker 2: down Main Street and do all kinds of things. Porch

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Speaker 2: Fest is another thing they do out there.

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Speaker 1: That is another one. I've been to that one time.

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Speaker 2: There's all kinds of events.

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Speaker 1: Now, are you a trail guy? Mon On Trail, nickel

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Speaker 1: Plate Trade.

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Speaker 2: I've been running on the mon On Trail, which is

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Speaker 2: not something I like to do, but I've been using

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Speaker 2: it more. Huh No, But listen, I'm happy you ask,

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Speaker 2: because that's what it would have been a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: I say, if you ever see me running post service

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Speaker 2: pick me up, I am not exercising.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what brought on the now running?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I think I hate running.

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Speaker 2: So I just went and did it, and then I

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Speaker 2: did it enough time for like all in love with

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Speaker 2: how I felt after I got done running.

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Speaker 1: It would be the opposite of that. When I was

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Speaker 1: in high school played soccer, I ran track, I ran

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Speaker 1: cross country, and I distinctly remember when I did not

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Speaker 1: make it out of sectionals and track my senior year,

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, this might be the last time

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Speaker 1: in my life that I'm going to be in shape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. For me, it's just like man in the Service,

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Speaker 2: you run so dang much. There were listen, this is

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Speaker 2: a true story, all right. We used to run. It's

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Speaker 2: around the airfield on Fort Lewis. We have this huge

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Speaker 2: airfield is like eight miles. Run it every Monday on

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Speaker 2: purpose on Monday to discourage you from being a complete

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Speaker 2: alcoholic during the weekend, because you're gonna get up and

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Speaker 2: run eight miles Monday. Me, my friends and I would

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Speaker 2: go park my car the night before two miles down

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Speaker 2: this street and we would sprint as fast as we

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Speaker 2: can to get so far ahead of the group behind us,

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Speaker 2: hop in my car, driver around the other six miles

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Speaker 2: park and they just sit there and wait for some

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Speaker 2: people to go and they just jump in and start running.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever get caught?

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Speaker 2: Never? Never? And it's actual limitations is up now, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: never got caught. That's how much I hate running. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Bob was in a service man. If you if you

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Speaker 2: chase me for two miles, no, I'm just gonna stop.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna fight. You know, I'm not gonna keep running.

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Speaker 1: Now, there's a group out there called the Hashers. Never

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Speaker 1: heard so there. They say that they're a drinking group

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Speaker 1: with a running problem. But what they'll do, and typically

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Speaker 1: they do this in the evenings, but they'll send a

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Speaker 1: couple of people out with a couple of cases of

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Speaker 1: beer and they will drop beers every so often to

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Speaker 1: make a trail. Well, then everybody else runs. And whenever

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Speaker 1: you get to a spot where there's like a beer

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Speaker 1: dropped and a case of beer sitting there, then everybody

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Speaker 1: has to stop pound a beer and then they run

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Speaker 1: onto the next time.

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Speaker 2: If anybody's interested in starting this up in Hamlin in County,

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Speaker 2: go ahead and start leaving beers on the mon on

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Speaker 2: for Jerry. I will pick those up.

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Speaker 1: We can, Jerry, how could people get in touch with you?

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Speaker 2: We can be the Hamco Hashers.

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Speaker 1: So see you you you were destined to be a

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Speaker 1: Hasher and you had no idea prior to this moment.

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Speaker 2: And this is the life I chose, right, it is

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Speaker 2: the life I chose.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hearing adventures with Jerry.

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Speaker 2: Now here you go.

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Speaker 1: So now do you look into any state parks.

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Speaker 2: So I've been to the dunes, which is very common

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Speaker 2: for people, but I went to it for the first

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Speaker 2: time two years ago and I absolutely love that place.

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Speaker 1: So it's in the last couple of years, and some

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Speaker 1: of it is my wife. Her job took her up

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Speaker 1: to around Lake Michigan, and she really embraced it. I

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Speaker 1: always thought it was kind of cool that, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've got great lakes one hundred and fifty miles hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty miles from it. I've always appreciated them. I've

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Speaker 1: never done a great job of embracing them. But here

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years we've been doing more like

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Speaker 1: little day trips up to There's a park in Gary

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Speaker 1: right by Miller Beach.

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Speaker 2: Sounds dangerous, Actually, it sounds very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It does sound dangerous.

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Speaker 2: You should not be going to Gary.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, I probably better.

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Speaker 1: I was one of the few only white guy.

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Speaker 2: I believe that.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to say it, but it's it is gentrifying,

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Speaker 1: like the whole area was suddenly like a bunch of

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Speaker 1: cool stuff is being built. That's right there on the

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Speaker 1: Lake Marquette Park. That's actually Marquette Park is the park

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Speaker 1: there in Gary.

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Speaker 2: Michigan City about is there's a prison right there.

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Speaker 1: I think they closed or closing that one and moving

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Speaker 1: everybody to Westville, which is up there. But Michigan City

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Speaker 1: has an awesome beach park. They got a lighthouse there.

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Speaker 1: We almost went up there last week when they are Monday,

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Speaker 1: when all the storms rolled through and we had all

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Speaker 1: the high winds. Apparently there's like twenty five foot waves

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Speaker 1: on Michigan and they were Wow. I would have loved

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Speaker 1: to have seen just all that blowing in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh so I'm a beach guy. Like I

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Speaker 2: put me on Miami and let me just roast. I

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Speaker 2: love that.

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Speaker 1: So when I when the reason you're a jogger you

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Speaker 1: trying to get shade here it is six pack.

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Speaker 2: I would go that far for the one kegger. But

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Speaker 2: when I go to dudes, I mean, it's pretty much

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Speaker 2: like the ocean. It is very real. Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: I had a fantastic time. I didn't know it was

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Speaker 2: going to be that fun. It was really good.

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Speaker 1: And so Indiana Dues there's actually two parks side by side.

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Speaker 1: You've got the State Park, which is run by the

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Speaker 1: state of Indiana and then the National Park, which obviously

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Speaker 1: is part of the National Park System. So if you

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Speaker 1: have a state park pass, you can go to the

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Speaker 1: Indiana side, and I know that they've got a cool

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Speaker 1: beach house there and place to grab lunch and dinner.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of that, do veterans get into state parks

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Speaker 2: for free or to any parks for free? I think

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Speaker 2: I've heard that somewhere. I don't know if it's true.

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Speaker 1: No, I would think maybe the National Parks or maybe

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Speaker 1: a discount. I know my mom got in on some

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Speaker 1: deal which she turned sixty five. The National Park System

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Speaker 1: offered a one time you buy a park a park

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Speaker 1: pass one time, and it's good for the rest of

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Speaker 1: your life, so it's a lifetime pass for tires. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they still have that program, but

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Speaker 1: I've been with her a couple of times when we're

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Speaker 1: out in like Vegas, and we just were wandered across

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Speaker 1: some National Park ground and she's like, yeah, we can

657
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Speaker 1: go in. I got my pass.

658
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: Your what's your hidden gym for food? Man?

659
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: I got I don't know it's hidden. The Rascaler is

660
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: pretty popular. I like going to the Rascaler, just getting

661
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: German food. Now there's a little place over on East

662
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: New York Street called the Great Divide, used to be

663
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: called Ralph's Great Divide. I like that. It's just a

664
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: place that's out of the way but convenient to downtown.

665
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: You can walk to it from the Circle if you want.

666
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: I like going to Barringer's Tavern down on South Meridian.

667
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: What are you? What are your hidden gym's food?

668
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: My go to is the Italian House. All my places

669
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: are going to be in Hamlinon County like well, of course,

670
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: so the Italian House is this little building. But the

671
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: food is fantastic. I mean, you have got to go there.

672
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: Where's that right off of thirty two thirty two, right

673
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: by the high school, kind of by the old high school.

674
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: They've now moved it a little bit up the block, okay,

675
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: but right on thirty two, little little building, best Italian

676
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: food you're going to get?

677
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: Now, did you say you live in Westfield? Yeah? Okay,

678
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: so you're you're in Westfield. I can remember in high

679
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: school Westfield, I always look forward to having them on

680
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: the schedule because that was a little school. Who's but

681
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: we could kick when we're playing them in anything. Now

682
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: now changed it has changed a lot. Now suddenly they're

683
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: they're the world beaters. So what else? Do you ever

684
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: go to sids in Noblesville?

685
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: No, I have not. I actually this could be a

686
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: whole right on the square. Yeah, I've ever been there.

687
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: This could be a whole separate dive bar discussion.

688
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: You.

689
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: I would think that you're somewhat of a dive bar

690
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: kind of guy.

691
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: I don't know how to take that.

692
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, I know you like to throw darts,

693
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: so you like that beer?

694
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have darts at nice Establishman's Bread.

695
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: They do well. You live in the Hamilton County. I

696
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: think by definition that's going to be hard to find

697
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: a true dive bar.

698
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: Well maybe maybe maybe if you.

699
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: Go to Sheridan. Now, don't get ticked off if you're

700
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: in shared of people. We're not We're not making fun.

701
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: We're just talking about reality. You are listening to this,

702
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: Brad Cloffenstein, Jerry Blopez, we are filling in for a

703
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: kid with Casey. Would we come back, Jerry, I would

704
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: to continue this conversation on dive bars and hidden gems.

705
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Ninety three WIBC. You're listening to

706
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: the Kendall and Casey Show, Brad Cloffenstein, Jerry Lowe, pezz

707
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: fill it in for the crew. Then we'll be back

708
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: on Monday. We get they gave us the quasi holiday shift,

709
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: Jerry and we are here to make the most of it.

710
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: That's right, Hey, start out with a bang. Start out

711
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: with the bang, first show. Give it to Brad and Jerry.

712
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: That's right. Well, I saw that we are number two

713
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: in the ratings now WBC is and we get to

714
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: drive the ship, so that we get we're driving the

715
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: ship and you and I are here just often enough

716
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: we can take credit for that. So all right, before

717
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: the break, we were talking about hitting gyms around Central Indiana.

718
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: H you're a single band, have a girlfriend. You have

719
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: a girlfriend, all right, So if you're looking for a date,

720
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: where do you take your Where do you take her?

721
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Where do you take her on your first date?

722
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: So what we have done and this is I mean

723
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: we've been together for almost three years, okay, So what

724
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: we got into because we played darts a lot, and

725
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: that's kind of like how we socialize with our friends.

726
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: But sometimes that turns into like we're not really hanging

727
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: out together, right, So she's always on TikTok and there's

728
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: a her algorithm turned into cool new restaurants in Indianapolis. Right,

729
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: So I would just have her pick one and we

730
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: would just hit that one up, right, So like, is

731
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: it Tom's watch bar? Yes, when we went there because

732
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: she saw it on TikTok. We went to some robot

733
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: sushi joint in Fissures because she saw it on TikTok.

734
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: I've heard about heard about that. Is it pretty good?

735
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean the food was good. It's interesting concept.

736
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: So do the robots make the sushi or just deliver it?

737
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: No, so they don't do either. Really, a robot will

738
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: bring you your your drinks like a little it looks

739
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: like a like Wally almost from the show.

740
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: Right.

741
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: He opens up and gives your drinks. And then there's

742
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: conveyor belts that go around between all the booths and stuff. Okay,

743
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: so you're just sitting there face to face eating as

744
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: this conveyor belt goes by and it has different sushi

745
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: rolls on. You just pick what you want, okay, So

746
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: it's all you can eat, just no, nothing, not all

747
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: you can eat, but it's encurzy. Eat fifteen plates because

748
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: if you put enough plates in this thing, they give

749
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: you a little sushi lego.

750
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: So, so do they charge you by the plate?

751
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: I bet they do? I bet they do.

752
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so this sounds like a a modern incarnation of

753
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: the pizza train. Yeah, Pizza King's out in Hendrick's County.

754
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: Do they have the train still at any of these?

755
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I haven't been to one in a long time. I

756
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: think they do. I would.

757
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: I would go to Pizza King if they had the train,

758
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: just for the nostalgia.

759
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so people need to hit you up on X

760
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: and say say yes or no.

761
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: Let me know if you know where Pizza King is

762
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: that has a train, let me know at Indiespannglish, We'll go.

763
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: There, you go. Okay, So, do you have any local

764
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: bakeries or you a bakery guy?

765
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: I am not a big bakery guy. I mean, nothing

766
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: beats Longs in my opinion. I've heard Titus is pretty good.

767
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: I've never been there. I've never had Jacks. I heard

768
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. But if I'm down like today, I

769
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: will probably go to Longs just because I'm down here.

770
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's close. Aren't they closing the sixteenth Street

771
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: bridge sometime soon? Like they're going to rebuild it. Oh wow,

772
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: you might not be able to get there from here.

773
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: Well, we'll figure it out. And it's cash only, so it.

774
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Is dope you brought cash, Yeah, don't. Now we'll have

775
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: to see if they take pennies.

776
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: Well, nobody's taking pities.

777
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So now one of my new favorites

778
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: riis and Roll.

779
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: I never heard of it.

780
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: It's Amish Bakery. They're out of like elk Carter someplace.

781
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: They've got a location of fishures and one down in Greenwood.

782
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: Pretty spectacular. So keep that. Put that in the back

783
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: of your mind. Is if you see a rizing roll,

784
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, Klopp was telling me that this isn't bad.

785
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: So speaking of cash home, like, do you ever go

786
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: to the working Man's Friend?

787
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: I've been there one time? Okay, yep, one time.

788
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: So that might be an after show place for us.

789
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: Really yeah, if you've only been there one time, yeah,

790
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: I have to check it out.

791
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: There's a What's what's the other one? Friendly something like

792
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: that in Zionsville.

793
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Oh, the Friendly Tavern's really cool? Yeah on main Street?

794
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 2: Wings? Right, the wings is what you go there for.

795
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: They give you like two pounds of wings or something

796
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: like that.

797
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: I always get the tenderloin. I guess I need.

798
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the tenderline shoes. The guy sitting next to me

799
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: had the tenderlin a massive yeah.

800
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: Uh old friend of mine Scott owns that. In fact,

801
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 1: I know he listens to the show. He's probably happy

802
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: that we're talking about it. A him getting gas a

803
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. It's like, eh, here, what the

804
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: I'd be c from time to time?

805
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: The wings are good?

806
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, there you go it. Head to the

807
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: friendly tavern and Zionsville Shapiro's Delhi. Did you ever go there?

808
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: I have been there before pretty good.

809
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know when I have friends from out

810
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: of town, especially the East Coast, they would have go

811
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: there because they're like, well, yeah, this is as good

812
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: as any East Coast Delhi. It's cheaper and they're actually

813
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: nice to you.

814
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: Well that's the different, Yeah, because it's not on the

815
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: East Coast. The bagel guys in line freaking out or something.

816
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cafe Heidelberg out in Lawrence. Have you ever been there? No?

817
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Never been there?

818
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: Okay, cool story.

819
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: The guys stayed north of the Mason Dixon line, or

820
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: as you guys call it, eighty sixth Street.

821
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, sometimes you got to venture south. No.

822
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: No, I grew up south of eighty six. I don't

823
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: want to go back.

824
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: But all the characters are down here.

825
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: I've been paroled, Okay.

826
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Cherry, I gotta tell you. I used to live not

827
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: three blocks from where we are right now, and so

828
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I moved down in nineteen ninety four over to Chatham

829
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: March and I just moved in. I was on my

830
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: front porch. I mean, I'm all proud. I had a

831
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: nice porch that looked at downtown Indianapolis. And me and

832
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: a couple buddies are sitting there having a beer, and

833
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: we see just a little bit of a commotion. We

834
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: see somebody pushing a shopping cart and it's got all

835
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: sorts of metal and stuff sticking at it, and they're

836
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: just walking down the street in front of us. And

837
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: I was like, man, you don't see that every day

838
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: in Carmel, in fact, you entire life, I never seen

839
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: that at all. This first guy gets about down to

840
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: the end of the block, and then about a block

841
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: behind him somebody else pushing a shopping cart full of metal,

842
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, are these two people are together? Not?

843
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: They're just far enough apart, like these could be two

844
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: random things, or does this happen? You'd never see that

845
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: in Westfield, not a chance. In fact, you go to

846
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: jail if somebody was doing this.

847
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: West Carmel locked up Jim Mersey, So they will lock

848
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: up anybody, all right, So don't be out there with

849
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: any of your nonsense. But that's why it's so nice.

850
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: It's so quiet. Great place is Midtown Plaza in Carmel.

851
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: They show movies on Mondays in the summer. There's sun King,

852
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: there's a whole fork in Ale. I think there's a

853
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: whole bunch of places right there out outdoor pong, outdoor

854
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: pool tables.

855
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: That's really cool.

856
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: And it's all free, Like you just show up and

857
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: bring your kids for a movie night walk around and

858
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: that's right off the monon.

859
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's kind of how you could take your

860
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: kids out. You can have beers, not be an alcoholic

861
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: with your family.

862
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: Boom and watch all the other dads that are drinking

863
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: with their kids too, and.

864
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: You're being a responsible parent. You've got this dialed in.

865
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: So you never walk downtown then, so you never do

866
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: like lockerby Square.

867
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure there's some cool stuff I've never even

868
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: been to like Irvington, Like people talk about Irvington, so

869
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: I've never been there.

870
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, there's Psalms has a new place, and it's

871
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: not new. I've been there a couple of years. But

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Speaker 1: they've got a little bar, good place out there. There's

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Speaker 1: another there's two or three other places. They've got a

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Speaker 1: Jack of Moo's piece out there. Yeah, Irvington's another little

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Speaker 1: hidden gym. I don't know that you'd go there every weekend,

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Speaker 1: but sure you could certainly spend a night out there

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Speaker 1: and enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I was gone for those years where

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Speaker 2: like you do things other than Broad Ripple, right, Like

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Speaker 2: whenever I came home, I was at that age where

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Speaker 2: it was just always on Broad Ripple, always on Broad Ripple,

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Speaker 2: And then I left and you come back and it's okay.

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Speaker 2: Now we're on the north side and this is everything

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Speaker 2: we're doing.

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Speaker 1: I get it well.

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Speaker 2: And it's built up so much in Hamilton County. I

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Speaker 2: mean every one of those cities has the Fishers Event

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Speaker 2: Center where they have legitimately Blake Shelton comes in and

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Speaker 2: performs there, right or Noblesville has now the Noblesville Boom

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Speaker 2: Basketball I went to a basketball game out there. It's phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: You have the palladium, you have all these different things.

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Speaker 2: You Westfield has the Disney World of few sports cool.

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Speaker 1: You were listening to Brad Clofenstein, Jerry Lopez filling in

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Speaker 1: for Kendall and Casey Jerry. When we come back after

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Speaker 1: the news, we're gonna do a would you Ever local addition?

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Speaker 2: Can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be a lot of fun. Don't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere, we'll be right back.