1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Lie from the hartbind and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: If the media isn't lying about what's taking place in Minneapolis, 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: they're not talking about it. 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: I mean, there's you know, the everyday nonsense that's going on. 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: And the people like Representative Vargas who believe that the 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: problem with all things in the world. 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Is ice and ice alone. 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: They couldn't have more money at all. In fact, mediency 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: shouldn't continue as it is. They really have to drastically 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: and we're going to fight for that. We're finding out 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: drastically reduce the amount of me and so they only 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: go after murderers, and they only go after rapists. 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, what they're doing. 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: They're attacking families. 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: No, no, don't know. 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 1: They are removing people are in the country illegally, Congressman. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: But how interesting it is we were discussing this legislation 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: the congressmanship Roy this. 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: Amendment that he wanted to add that would reduce. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: The funding to activist judges like Judge Bosburg out of 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: DC and Republicans voted with Democrats to nix the idea. 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: All we can't lower their funding, but lower the funding 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: for ice oh, absolutely, that has to happen. 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: I said it. 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: When they have the power, they'll do anything. When you 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: have the power, How dare you think you can do anything? 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, good 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: to be with you find everything over at Tony Katz 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: dot com. But this has become the new sensation. The 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: conversations all having to do with though, oh, this terrible ice. 32 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: They shouldn't even exist, and look how they're violating the law, 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: and well, what kind of people are they anyway? 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: There's also a landscaper whose caregiver to a nine year 35 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 4: old son with cerebral palsy who was swept up. He's 36 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 4: been in this country for twenty years. What is the 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 4: effect on people, individual families that I think maybe can 38 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: get lost when we're seeing so many arrests in such 39 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: a short amount of time, and simultaneously the effect on 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 4: a broader psyche. 41 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: That's not journalism, that is why don't you feel bad? 42 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: We engage this conversation constantly, these people who want to 43 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: think that their emotions should run our lives. Why do 44 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: we have laws if the laws make us feel bad? 45 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: If we listen to this ms NOW host, it's okay 46 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: to deport people, but not so many at once. What 47 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: about the man who's been here for twenty years and 48 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: is the caregiver to their nine year old son with 49 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: cerebral palsy. Yeah, you're absolutely right, man. That is not 50 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: an easy road to hoe right there. That's difficult stuff. 51 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: He is here illegally. 52 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: What now do we. 53 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: Do well, because you have a nine year old son 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: with cerebral palsy. 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: We do nothing. We do nothing. What do you mean 56 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: we do nothing? 57 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: If you want to argue that we need to have 58 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: these moments where there are circumstances extenuating, and that we 59 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: should want these people into the country, well that would 60 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: be a lot easier of a conversation to have if 61 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: you're a fellow brethren of the political left. Weren't attacking 62 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: ICE agents in Minneapolis doing their job, if you weren't 63 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: interested in shooting ICE agents in Dallas, if you were 64 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: actually interested in border security and telling people who broke 65 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: the law, who are providing no value and engaged in violence, 66 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: they're not welcome. 67 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: But you don't even do that on the political left. 68 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: You argue that every instance is proof that this should stop, 69 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: and that the people here illegally should be allowed to stay, 70 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: and should be allowed to profit, and should be allowed 71 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: in some cases to be violence criminals. Because no, not 72 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: everybody who's come across the border as a violent criminal. 73 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: But if we stopped the people coming across the border, 74 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: we would stop violent criminals coming across the border. 75 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: Which is why I favor the moves that we've made 76 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: on the border. 77 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: It's why I favor the idea of ice and the value. 78 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: That they provide. 79 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: You provide me this example, and I could provide you, well, 80 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: here are the illegal immigrants who've got about killing people 81 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: like Lake and Riley in a host of others. 82 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: I can't notice that. 83 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: The answer is first let's find out who's in the 84 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: country illegally, and then let's put them in custody. We 85 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: can have a conversation if you know what, they've been 86 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: here for twenty years in there taking care of their 87 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: their nine year old kid with tebral palsy. 88 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: What do we want to do about that? Oh, that 89 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: guy's a murderer. Bye. 90 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: Oh that guy isn't a murderer, but isn't taking care 91 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: of a nine year old to teble palsy? 92 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Bye? 93 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Would you favor that political left no, you won't even 94 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: engage that. Instead, you give me Eddie Cloud with conversations 95 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: like this. 96 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Right, I think you know. 97 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 5: I mean people are terrorized, people are deeply afraid, focus 98 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 5: are depressed. There's a sense that people feel hopeless and 99 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 5: in sometimes they're angry. 100 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: That is how the political rights and independence have felt 101 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: for years, while the left has allowed people into the country, 102 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: and while the political right didn't do enough to keep 103 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: those who shouldn't be here out of the country for 104 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: four years under Joe Biden. 105 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: The fear you want to talk about the anger? Can 106 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: we talk. 107 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: About the families of those women who've been raped and killed, 108 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: those men killed, attacked, harmed by those here legally. Again, 109 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: this isn't a rational conversation from Princeton University professor Eddie Cloud. 110 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: This is emotional problem. Can't run a country this way, 111 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: and they think that they are the only people connected 112 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: to it. 113 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: They think they're the only ones who should be allowed 114 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: to have I don't know, some. 115 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Kind of feeling about this, that their emotion gives them 116 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: some type of well they're already a leader, some type 117 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: of moral superiority. That's the word I was looking for. No, none, zero, 118 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: You ain't special and you don't care more. 119 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: Why don't you stop it? 120 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: You are not special And this argument that you're making 121 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: is nonsense and childlike. 122 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 6: And they want to strike out. They want to figure 123 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 6: out how do they, in so many ways say no 124 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 6: to what is being done in their names. 125 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: We need to be clear. 126 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 7: I think the country faces a choice. 127 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: It's a moral choice. 128 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 6: In some ways, with political implication about who who we're 129 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 6: going to be. And these folk are acting in the 130 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 6: name of the country. 131 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: No, they are not. 132 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: The people attacking ICE agents are not acting in the 133 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: name of the country. 134 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: They are acting to put an end to it. You 135 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: want a. 136 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: Debate again, I say to you, how much more do 137 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: you have to hear from these people until you understand 138 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: that they believe they have moral superiority and they should 139 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: have dominion over you. 140 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: Here he is excusing the violence. 141 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: As you may know by now, there was a shooting 142 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis that took place. 143 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 2: This shooting involved an ICE agent. 144 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: If you were to listen to the press, the press 145 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: would tell you that ICE shot another innocent person. First 146 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: things first, Renee Good was not innocent. I didn't say 147 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: Renee Good should have been shot. I'll take an investigation 148 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: for that renee Good was not innocent. That's what I 149 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: say said. Here's Ice. They're just out of control. They're 150 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: shooting everybody. The story, if you haven't, if you haven't 151 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: heard it by now, is that ICE was targeting someone 152 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 1: in the country illegally who happened to be from Venezuela, 153 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: and ICE tried to stop this person in their car. 154 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: They drove off and they ram their car into another vehicle. 155 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: They then this suspect gets out and runs. ICE pursues, 156 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: an ICE agent tackles him, and they're in a struggle 157 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: because why would you listen to an ICE agent? 158 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: Why renee Good. 159 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't listen to law enforcement and somehow she's a hero. 160 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: Ice agent doesn't. I have to doesn't shouldn't think that 161 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: this illegal immigrant is going to listen. That's not happening. 162 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: The fight ensue. Two people come out of a house 163 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: and attack the ICE agent with a shovel and a broomstick. 164 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: The suspect gets free, and the suspect starts hitting the 165 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: ICE agent with a shovel and a broomstick. The ICE 166 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: agent pulls their weapon and fires at the suspect, hitting 167 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: him in the leg. The three of them retreat back 168 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: to the house. Ice is not able to get into 169 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: the house, and they are arrested. How does the press 170 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: discuss this? The press says, Ice shoots, Ice shoots a protester. 171 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: It's an obscenity. They lie, they refuse to tell the story. 172 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: They want to engage in an emotional manipulation, and all 173 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: of it is wrong, and we're not going to fall 174 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: for it for a second because they have no moral superiority, none, 175 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: and we should be people who follow the law. The 176 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: press briefing is beginning. I'll bring it to you when 177 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: we come back. Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today. 178 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 8: Thanks to absolutely and as you know Riley, who administration 179 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 8: already has done so, we've taken action in a number 180 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 8: of fronts against these states who are failing to uphold 181 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 8: the President's executive orders, in this administration's policy of simply 182 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 8: protecting women in women's sports and in women's private spaces. 183 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: The question came from Riley Gaines, who of course made 184 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: her bones as being someone who said, Hey, Leah Thompson's 185 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: a man. 186 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: Are we all crazed? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good 187 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: to be with you. 188 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: I've interviewed Riley gaines myself. She has become the champion 189 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: on this subject, becoming unbelievably effective. Was talking about how 190 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court heard two different arguments just yesterday or 191 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: day before regarding this idea of boys and girls sports 192 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: and protecting women in women's sports, and what will the 193 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: White House did Trump administration do if states refuse to 194 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: follow along with where the court may go considering the 195 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: The indications of right now in her view, are that 196 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: they're going to agree that there are there is a 197 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: way to separate regarding sex and it is not discriminatory. 198 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: So the White House briefing is going on. Caroline Levitt 199 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: talked a lot about healthcare prices. Let's take it to 200 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: some of the questions that they that the press are 201 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: asking to underway. 202 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: We'll can share about that. 203 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 9: And then also the President said yesterday that Delsia Rochuritez 204 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 9: spoke a ter Richard person. Does the President trust the 205 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 9: relief the remaining members of the Nadero regime? 206 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 7: I will say to your first question. 207 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 8: The meeting was about to begin as I was stepping 208 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 8: out of the Oval Office moments ago. 209 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 7: So my understanding is that it's underway right now. 210 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 8: I know the President was looking forward to this meeting 211 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 8: and he's was expecting it to be a good and 212 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 8: positive discussion with Ms. 213 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 7: Maschado, who is really a. 214 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 8: Remarkable and brave voice for many of the people of Venezuela. 215 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 8: So the President looks forward to obviously talking to her 216 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 8: about the reality on the ground in the country and 217 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 8: what is taking place. As for Miss Rodriguez, the President 218 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 8: did speak with her directly. 219 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 7: This week, as you know. 220 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 8: He revealed that to all of you yesterday in Secretary 221 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 8: Rubio and the administration have been in constant communication with 222 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 8: Miss Rodriguez and other members of the interim government in Venezuela. 223 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 7: You're extremely cooperative. 224 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 8: They have thus far met all of the demands and 225 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 8: requests of the United States and of the President, and. 226 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 7: I think you have all seen that play out. 227 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 8: We obviously had a million dollar excl that was struck 228 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 8: in large part because of the cooperation from Miss Rodriguez 229 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 8: Venezuela and Miss Rodriguez have also confirmed that they will 230 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 8: be releasing political prisoners from Venezuela. There were five Americans 231 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 8: who were recently released this week as well. So the 232 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,479 Speaker 8: President likes what he's seeing and we'll expect that cooperation 233 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 8: to continue. 234 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 9: And I'm regarding the investigation into the movie that the 235 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 9: President referenced yesterday. What does the administration's position on the 236 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 9: Washington pust reporter the Post has replaced that she was 237 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 9: told she's not a target of the investigation. Does the 238 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 9: administration believe she did anything wrong? And also, what is 239 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 9: the administration's position on the Pentagon Papers case from the 240 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 9: nineteen seventies that affirmed reporter's right to publish classified information 241 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 9: under certain circumstances. 242 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 8: Well, since this is an active investigation, I don't want 243 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 8: to comment on it to much more than what we 244 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 8: did yesterday to obviously confirm the investigation, and I can 245 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 8: confirm what the Attorney General stated and the President as well, 246 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 8: which is that the individual, unfortunately a contractor at the Pentagon, 247 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 8: chose to unlawfully leak classified, in very serious information to 248 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 8: this Washington Post reporter. 249 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 7: Hence why the reporter's home was looked into. 250 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: By the way we got into that yesterday, that the 251 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: reporter was not the member of the subject of the investigation, 252 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: but rather this leak and this moving of classified information. 253 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: But to get back to what was said being said 254 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: prior about Trump's meeting with Mashado, the Nobel Prize winner, 255 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: the opposition to Nicholas Maduro. That meeting is happening, as 256 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: she said right now. The release of prisoners is always great, 257 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: and the release Americans of Americans is always fantastic. Absolutely, 258 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: But this is the first time I've heard anybody refer 259 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: to Delsea Rodriguez, the vice president of Venezuela, the number 260 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: two to Nicholas Maduro as the interim was the interim 261 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: regime or interim leadership. It is the first time I 262 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: have heard that terminology be used. So the question is 263 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: if it's interim interim to what another election will we 264 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: be the election observers to the guy who won the 265 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: previous election, Gonzales being installed to a decision that the 266 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: United States will make with almost unilaterally, to say, okay, 267 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: ma shadow, you're the opposition leader. 268 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: Now it's here. It is. 269 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: It's the first time I've heard interroim and indrom means well, 270 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: something has to be coming. 271 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: What will that system be? 272 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 8: Back to the present, DTV broadcasting an implicit threat to 273 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 8: the president's life. 274 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 7: It was images of the assassination. 275 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 8: Attempt in Butler the message this time it will not 276 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 8: go wrong. 277 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 7: I have not seen that. 278 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 8: To be honest with you, Jackie will take a look 279 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 8: and I'll let the President and his national security team 280 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 8: examine that footage to ensure its legitimacy. Again, I haven't 281 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 8: seen it, so I can't comment on it. What I 282 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 8: will say with respect to Iran is that the President 283 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 8: and his team have communicated to the Iranian regime that 284 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 8: if the killing continues, there will be grave consequences. And 285 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 8: the President received a message, as he revealed to all 286 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 8: of you in the whole world yesterday, that the killing 287 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 8: and the executions will stop. And the President understands today 288 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 8: that eight hundred executions that were scheduled and supposed to 289 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 8: take place yesterday were halted. And so the President and 290 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 8: his team are closely monitoring this situation and all options 291 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 8: remain on the. 292 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 7: Table for the President. 293 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: I hope that's look. 294 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 8: It's true that spoke with Prime Minister net Yahoo, but 295 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 8: I would never detail details about their conversation without giving 296 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 8: the expressed approval by the President himself. 297 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 7: O cha think, Caroline? 298 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: Is it still the president's assessment that it would be. 299 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 8: Very hard for Miss Machado to leave Venezuela because he 300 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 8: says she lacks the respect and support in that country. 301 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 7: And will he raise that with her too. 302 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 8: I think the president's assessment that you just pointed out 303 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 8: was based on realities on the ground. It was a 304 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 8: realistic assessment, based on what the President was reading and 305 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 8: hearing from his advisors and national security team, and at 306 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 8: this moment in time, his opinion on that matter has 307 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 8: not changed. 308 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 2: I also said that. 309 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: So this has been the argument that here goes Maduro, 310 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: he gets captured, and the government didn't fall, and the 311 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: people didn't say we want Machado to lead us, and 312 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: the military didn't move. 313 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: Everyone kind of everyone kind of stayed right where they are. 314 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: And the argument was that where was the movement to 315 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: a Machado, to this other guy Gonzales, Where was the 316 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: movement to something new? None of the players that would 317 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: have to move moved, And maybe you'd have to cajole 318 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: those people in a way that we were not prepared 319 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: to do at the moment, and maybe that while Mashado 320 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: is a force for the opposition, she may not be 321 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: the force to lead the nation. 322 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: So that's that. 323 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: Seems to be the conversation now, and that's what Trump said. 324 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: So now that they're meeting today, well, I don't know 325 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: how that goes right. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're 326 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: doing incredible work and you won the Nobel Prize and 327 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: rightfully so, but yeah, you can't do this, Like, I 328 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: don't know how that comes together. 329 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is Mashadow is going to 330 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 2: say to him in that meeting. But again, I go 331 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: back to it. 332 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: If you want to enable the idea or agree with 333 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: the idea that Trump is bringing back the Monroe doctrine, 334 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: the Monroe Doctrine which wanted to limit European influence in 335 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: the Western hemisphere, and we want to use it today 336 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: to limit Russian and Chinese influence in the Western hemisphere. 337 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: Well then you have to get. 338 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: Rid of the Majoria regime. And that's everybody because they're. 339 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: All communists and Russian and Chinese influence. Were fresh conference 340 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: coming up. I'm Tony Kats and the. 341 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 8: Plan is put in place, every single American who has 342 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 8: healthcare in the United States will see lower costs as 343 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 8: a result, they will see more transparency. All of these 344 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 8: proposals that are within the Great Healthcare Plan are incredibly 345 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 8: popul with the American people and they will impact everyone, 346 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 8: not just a small fraction of those who are within 347 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 8: the healthcare marketplace. But every single American will continue to 348 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 8: see their costs go down. 349 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 7: And I will note that they already are. 350 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 8: With respect to prescription drug prices. But you look at 351 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 8: what the President has done with most favored nations. You've 352 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 8: seen these big pharmaceutical companies in the Oval Office saying 353 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 8: that this president and his team were NonStop around the 354 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 8: clock pressuring us and negotiating with us to lower the 355 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 8: cost of prescription drugs for Americans. And we are already 356 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 8: seeing that to the tune in some cases of more 357 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 8: than five hundred percent. And that Trump oar X website 358 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 8: is something that the administration will be formally not launching 359 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 8: very soon, so Americans will have access to those lower 360 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 8: costs of drugs. 361 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: Lower costs should come via regulation and not via force. 362 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: But neither here nor there, Tony Katz, Tony Katz. Today, 363 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: it's the White House Press Briefing. That's Caroline Levitt who 364 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: is speaking. I'm not sure familiar with everything in this 365 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: legislation idea, but when it comes to pricing, and hey, 366 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: here it is, it's written out, it's transparent, it's it's 367 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: totally accessible, and you're knowing what things are going. 368 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: To cost immediately. That is something that's popular. 369 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: That is something that people do want, I think across 370 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: the board, regardless of party. 371 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: That's something for sure that people want. 372 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: Government engaging force and saying you'll do this and you'll 373 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: do that, and not looking at maybe the regulatory environment 374 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: that has caused these issues. I think that's a great problem. 375 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: That's just me. 376 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: But it's going to be popular doesn't mean I think 377 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: just because something is popular doesn't. 378 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: Mean it's a good idea. 379 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Captain credit card rates, interest rates a ten percent terrible idea. 380 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: Wildly popular, but terrible idea. Let's bring a bract to 381 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: the press briefing if we can. 382 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 8: It is like with all decisions, it's a decision for 383 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 8: the president to make, and he said to Reuter's in 384 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 8: that interview last night that he thinks he'll be finally 385 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 8: making that decision in the next couple of weeks, so 386 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 8: we will see very quickly. 387 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 10: There's been some criticism from other governments about that rock 388 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 10: and XAI, the Twitter AI bought and things that's been 389 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 10: doing to manipulate images, including whether that would violate the 390 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 10: Taken Down Act, and the first lady to support or 391 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 10: being not heard from this administration on it. Elon Musk 392 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 10: says that they've disabled that. But I wanted to ask 393 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 10: you whether the administration has a position and whether that's 394 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 10: something that he will be pursuing at Whether the President 395 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 10: is talking to mister Musk about that. 396 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 8: Yes, I will talk to the Office of Science and 397 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 8: Technology and we will get you a firm statement and 398 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 8: answer on exactly where the administration stands. I don't want 399 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 8: to speak on that without speaking with the experts on it. 400 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: Yes, just a follow upon the health care career. 401 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: Mind the thing about acting as. 402 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 7: Registrate existing conditions? 403 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 6: Is there any discussion or inclusion on that issue in 404 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 6: the President's support. 405 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 8: The President's plan that he outlined today will have no 406 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 8: impact on individuals in this country with pre existing conditions. 407 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 8: Obviously that's a continued conversation that the White House will 408 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 8: have with Congress. But that's not the president's intention with 409 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 8: the Great Healthcare Plan. 410 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 7: Sure, go ahead, thanks Caroline. 411 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 11: Two questions on Minneapolis, and then go ahead, two questions 412 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 11: on Minneapolis and turned on the ICE. 413 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 7: Agent to the other. 414 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 11: On the rioting, I believe last night there were protesters 415 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 11: or rioters that rifle through an FBI cards with weapons. 416 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 11: We had a reporter in bed with ICE who said 417 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 11: that she saw a constant grassman all evening. Can you 418 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 11: speak to the rhetoric we're hearing from Democrat politicians, whether 419 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 11: they're causing violence against ICE, as well as some of 420 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 11: the headlines we've seen, not including the full story. 421 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean to your first point, I think I've 422 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 8: addressed that that these Democrat governors and mayors in not 423 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 8: just Minnesota, but in states across the country are essentially 424 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 8: you know, they've referred to ICE agents, who again are 425 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 8: brave men and women. And I would encourage everyone in 426 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 8: this room, and I would encourage Governor Walls and other 427 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 8: Democrats who are demeaning law enforcement to sit down and 428 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 8: have a cup of coffee with an ICE agent or 429 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 8: a Border patrol agent. 430 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 7: These are great, patriotic. 431 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 8: Men and women who have families, who put on the 432 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 8: uniform every day and are following our nation's immigration laws 433 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 8: at the direction of their bosses and again at the 434 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 8: direction of the law. They are simply trying to enforce 435 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 8: the law. And the Democrat Party has demeaned these individuals. 436 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 8: They've even referred to them as Nazis and as the Gestapo, 437 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 8: and that is absolutely leading to the violence we're seeing 438 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 8: in the streets. If you look at some of the 439 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 8: images out of Minneapolis last night. 440 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 7: Look at this vehicle, look at what it says. It 441 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 7: says f ICE. 442 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 8: You have these individuals who are putting their middle finger 443 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 8: proudly so at the camera. Another ICE individual a vehicle 444 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 8: that was vandalized last night by these left wing agitators. 445 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 8: People don't do this without encouragement from people in power 446 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 8: who make them feel like it's okay. Here's another one. 447 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 8: And I'm pretty sure this car you can't see. It 448 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 8: said the best agent is a dead agent, or something 449 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 8: to that effect. 450 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 7: This is despicable rhetoric that we're seeing. 451 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 8: And the media is absolutely complicit in this violence, because 452 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 8: if you look at the headline from CNN protests erupt 453 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 8: after federal agent shoots man in Minneapolis. 454 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 7: That is not the story. That is not the truth. 455 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 7: If you actually want to know the truth, you can 456 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 7: look at what the. 457 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 8: Department of Homeland Security released, which is that this ICE 458 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 8: agent was executing a targeted operation against a Venezuelan, a 459 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 8: legal alien who was unlawfully present in the country, who 460 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 8: fled by car and then fled by foot and When 461 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 8: this ICE agent tried to detain the individual, three more 462 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 8: of his comrades came rushing out of a house and 463 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 8: started ambushing and attacking the ICE agent. They used a 464 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 8: shovel or broom to smash his face in, and so yes, 465 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 8: that agent had to use self defense and take up 466 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 8: his weapon. 467 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 7: To protect his own life. 468 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: That is what's. 469 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 7: Happening on the streets of Minneapolis. That's what's happening on. 470 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 8: The streets unfortunately of these Democrat runs cities and states 471 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 8: where you have elected officials who are encouraging such. 472 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 7: Violence against our brave men and women. 473 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely the fact. First follow up on I'm going 474 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: to get back to this x story really quick because 475 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: the story about x Twitter is how Europe does not 476 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: in any way value free speech and cure. Starmer, the 477 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, has shown himself as 478 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: absolutely opposed to it. He wants social media to be stopped, 479 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: He wants to be able to have access to people's 480 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: cell phones. He does not believe that you have any 481 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: right to encryption. It is the UK that tries to 482 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: get Apple to invent back doors into the phone so 483 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: the UK can get into them, which would affect every 484 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: Apple user around the globe. And I do believe that 485 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: the United States has to be proactive in pushing back 486 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: and saying you have no right to the data of 487 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: States citizens and will fight you if we have to. 488 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: But this thing about. 489 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: X and it's Ai GROC and the images it can create. 490 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: So it came out the other day that you can 491 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: certainly with AI and with the groqu Ai, you can 492 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: create images, and you can create images that are suggestive. 493 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: And I said, I'd well, what does this mean. 494 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: Well, people were creating images of female politicians and bikinis. 495 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: And I said, okay, hey. 496 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: Grock, do you see this as a problem, like these 497 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: images could be used to harm the reputation of the 498 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: subject of the images. And Groc responded on paraphrasing here 499 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: with basically, someone could do something like that, but we 500 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: don't think that. We don't think Rock should be limited 501 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: in its ability to create them. I said, so you 502 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: could create an image of and I mentioned an image 503 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: and like yeah, And I said, and you don't see 504 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: that as a problem, And they were like, no, I 505 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: think that we should be. 506 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: Asking ourselves whether or not that's a problem. 507 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: And so when it was referenced the first lady and 508 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: to take it Down Act, which is the idea of 509 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: things like revenge, porn and a whole host of subjects 510 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: where people are creating imagery or taking private videos and 511 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: posting it and how this affects people's lives. 512 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: First, we have to address. 513 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: It from just a rational viewpoint of what kind of 514 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: people are we? 515 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna We're gonna utilize. 516 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: AI to destroy people, to create images of them and 517 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: in provocative ways that they never were, to try and 518 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: humiliate or demeanor or really destroy reputation, destroy opportunity to 519 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: destroy reputation. That's that is madness that we would think 520 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: that we should make that easier to do. 521 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: But do we want to be in the business of limiting. 522 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: Parody, because isn't that also it we've determined that parody 523 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: is allowed. 524 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if we're discussing parity here. 525 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: If it's a named the Politico in some stage of undress, 526 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: in some specific scene, I think that the question is 527 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: a real one, And that question is far different than 528 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom saying you can't 529 00:29:53,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: say things we don't like. If I say something about 530 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: pick the politico, Nancy Mace Congresswoman South Carolina. If I 531 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: say something about Nancy Mace, I can say anything. If 532 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: I create the imagery of Nancy Mace in some type 533 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: of situation, Am I known law? Is that still free speech? 534 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: Or am I engaging in asland or a libel, a 535 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: reputation destruction that's actionable. I think they're two different things. 536 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: If I state that Islamists have no place in a 537 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: civil society or Western civilization. Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister 538 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: of the UK, thinks I'm the problem when I've engaged 539 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: in something factual or at least an opinion. He wants 540 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: that removed. He wants you not to be able to 541 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: enter the country, and he has said this to people. 542 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: He has told people, no, no, no, it's the UK has 543 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: decided you're not entitled. 544 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: To a visa. You're not good for you are not. 545 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: A valuable piece of the public good, or you cannot 546 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: increase the public good, so we're not going to have 547 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: you in the country. That's nuts because I mentioned that 548 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: Islamists are danger the world's over because I mentioned that 549 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: the UK has been overrun by Islamists. Because I've stated quite. 550 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: Clearly that Prince William it will be King. 551 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: William will be the last king of England if he 552 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: doesn't do something about this. For that, twelve thousand people 553 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: who have posted things like that if you will on 554 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: social media are in jail or are dealing with the 555 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: police coming after them, But the Islamist themselves, nothing happens. 556 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: That's a problem. That's an ugly guy. The UK needs 557 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: to send. 558 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Him on his way. 559 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: But should we say to the technology, yes, you can 560 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: create imagery that will damage and ruin reputations, ruin lives, 561 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: denigrate and demean in that way. I do not know 562 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: if we should do such a thing. I think we should. 563 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: I think we should be shying away from such things. 564 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: And maybe the answer is, Tony, if you're asking societally 565 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: what we should do, maybe you're right. But maybe you 566 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 1: can't stop the technology from being the technology. Maybe you 567 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: can't decide what it is that people do with it. 568 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: Maybe that is the answer. We will continue that conversation, 569 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: keep it here. I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Kats. Today, 570 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: Virginia decides not to stick. 571 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: With more of the same. Regarding Glenn Youngkin. 572 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 1: Of course, he was not able to run again and 573 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: win some earl Sears runs for the Republican side, and 574 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: as I learned later, man, they did not run good 575 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: races in Virginia, and the Democrat, Abigail Spamberger wins and 576 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: she will be the next governor of Virginia. Tony Katz, 577 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, great to be with you. And we 578 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: already know that Democrats have been able to get hold 579 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: of the state legislature. 580 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: There and what are they doing now? 581 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: A new bill would prohibit public schools in the state 582 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: from describing January sixth, twenty twenty one as a peaceful protest. 583 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: Democrats have filed legislation. It would require any public school 584 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: district that wants to teach you about January sixth to 585 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: describe it as quote an event unprecedented, violent attack on 586 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: the United States democratic institutions, infrastructure, and representatives for the 587 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: purpose of overturning the results of the twenty twenty presidential election. 588 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: It used to be that abortion was the religion of 589 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: the left. No, it's January sixth. It was such a 590 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: violent action that the police let people in and they 591 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: walked between the velvet ropes. I didn't say they weren't 592 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: violent people. I said to explain it as they want 593 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: to explain. It is not to tell the whole story. 594 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: But the whole story is not what they want. The 595 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: story that they want to tell is what they want, 596 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: and they're hell bent on doing it, hell bent on 597 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: only giving one side, like they did in the hearings 598 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: that were together for prime time by a television showrunner 599 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: with no rebuttal. And then where are the records, where 600 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: are their notes? Where is what they did? Did that 601 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: stuff really get destroyed? You're watching a gaslighting operation happen. 602 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: There are people who engage in violence. They should be 603 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: in jail. There are people who did nothing wrong. They 604 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't be in jail. It was a riot, it wasn't 605 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: an insurrection. Minneapolis is an insurrection that it's not prove it. 606 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: I can prove to you that January sixth was a 607 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: riot and I opposed it. Then we're attacking law enforcement, 608 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: disregarding the laws of the lands, and proudly getting support 609 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: by members of Congress. Insurrection in Minneapolis. Change my mind. 610 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. 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