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Speaker 2: There you go, Mark Dacton, it's like club Morning Show

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Speaker 2: this morning. I did that. How you doing. You're hanging

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Speaker 2: in there, buddy. You're a gamer. You've been called a

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Speaker 2: gamer on the text line. Gotta like that. Mark playing

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Speaker 2: a little hurt today.

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Speaker 3: Mark Puke and Rally Baby. I can't speak from experience.

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Speaker 3: I don't drink, but I heard a lot in college

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Speaker 3: and it's seem to work well with my friends.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Kevin, I was checking the text line. There are

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Speaker 2: a lot of people that are fans of Indiana basketball

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Speaker 2: looking longingly at Dusty May coaching Michigan last night, so

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Speaker 2: that in some cases, for example, example, Joe says with

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Speaker 2: sarcasm after watching Michigan beat down Perdue last night, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure glad I you kept Woody that extra year and

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Speaker 2: not go after Dusty May.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the thought? There a lot of the board

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Speaker 4: of trustees hanging on to what do you want of

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Speaker 4: their own? Maybe I just remember that there was a

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Speaker 4: sner element to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that there were always rumblings for fans,

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Speaker 2: mostly about man they should go after Dusty May. They

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Speaker 2: should go get that. And now Dusty May has rebuilt

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Speaker 2: Michigan into a monster at this point in time, and

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Speaker 2: they look like they are headed to the final four.

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Speaker 2: Looks like we'll be seeing them in late March early

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Speaker 2: April here in Indianapolis, is what it looks like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that there to me is no doubt who then

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Speaker 4: on one team is in college basketball right now, just dominant, dominant.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, can you imagine Scott Dolson pulling off a

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Speaker 4: and again, I don't know how much say he maybe

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Speaker 4: had on Mike Woodson getting a whatever that was a

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Speaker 4: fourth year. Can you imagine Kurtzignetty and Dusty May and Bloomington, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sure a lot of folks wearing red and white. The

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Speaker 2: Scotty's got his IU hatt and sweatdro on this morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he can imagine that quite well. Yesterday Rick

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Speaker 2: Carlisle met with the media to talk about a number

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Speaker 2: of different things over the practice facility as they get

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Speaker 2: ready to start the second half of the season coming

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Speaker 2: off that one hundred thousand dollars fine for tanking, and

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Speaker 2: we had talked about that a little bit yesterday and

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Speaker 2: for the most part in his comments. Initially he had said,

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better phrase, is no comment, you know,

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Speaker 2: not worried about it. But then you mentioned James that

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Speaker 2: he elaborated a little bit later on with some of

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Speaker 2: the Beat reporters on what the rest of the season

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Speaker 2: and what that situation looked like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Dustin Appierre, Tony East, the two

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Speaker 3: guys on the ground every day with that team. And

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Speaker 3: here is the statement that he later gave after practice

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Speaker 3: to those guys. I'm so proud of the way that

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Speaker 3: our players, organization, and fans are approached extraordinarily challenging season.

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Speaker 3: We have been very consistent with how we have approached

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Speaker 3: everything this year, and the NBA is aware of that.

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Speaker 3: Communication with the league office has been productive. We will

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Speaker 3: move forward with the same emphasis on competitiveness in development

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Speaker 3: that I talked about on Media Day September twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: I also saw that he talked a little bit about

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Speaker 2: he basically said they're progressing slowly but steadily, but doesn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, I kind of view it as, Okay,

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Speaker 3: how well can you prove that to the NBA because

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Speaker 3: you're gonna be under the microscope. I would say every

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Speaker 3: team is, but especially you because of the fine and

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Speaker 3: as long as you can prove that. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying that they're lying. I mean, you know, I am team.

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Speaker 3: Do whatever you can to get the best pick, but

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Speaker 3: sure you're you know, dot the i's and cross the t's.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, did you see Mark Cuban talking about tanking yesterday saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we did it once or twice in Dallas and the

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Speaker 2: fans appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought, Cuban, that's been interesting comments in regards

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Speaker 4: of responding to some Pacers fans going back and forth

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Speaker 4: in regards to tanking. And you know, I think we're

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Speaker 4: in a unique NBA market in that I believe, for

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Speaker 4: the most part, Pacers fans fully understand why the Pacers

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Speaker 4: the start of the year. They have tanked. I say

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Speaker 4: They're not like some of these other teams that you've

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Speaker 4: and so I think Pacers fans have a pretty good

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Speaker 4: best case to kind of point out there. I thought

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Speaker 4: but you know, he mentioned during some of the seasons

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Speaker 4: they actually had to stop that because the secondary ticket

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Speaker 4: which I guess is probably smart business by the secondary

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Speaker 4: he said the number was four thousand tickets for each game,

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Speaker 4: at least four thousand tickets were offered at nineteen dollars

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Speaker 4: of what we mentioned yesterday. I said to you guys, hey,

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Speaker 4: the season, what would you want to see? And you know,

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Speaker 4: is this something we see NBA teams start to do

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Speaker 4: believe Cuban, you know, I don't think he would openly lie.

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Speaker 4: But granted, it is Twitter, so you never fully know there.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think most fans sit there and say,

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Speaker 4: the league said the best chance to get elite talent

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Speaker 4: is to lose, increase your lottery odds. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 4: have to play the NBA's game, and that's to lose

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Speaker 4: because sports purgatory, as I say quite often, is not

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Speaker 4: sports sport purgatory at sports hell. Purgatory is not going

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Speaker 4: to get you. You are not getting out of that easily.

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Speaker 4: I would argue, it's easier to stay in it.

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Speaker 4: Look at the NFL team on the northwest side of Indianapolis,

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Speaker 4: and so the Pacers are playing the game.

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Speaker 5: I would say this too.

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Speaker 3: When I heard Adam Silver over the weekend talk about

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Speaker 3: insulting in my opinion for him to not acknowledge that

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Speaker 3: fans do indeed want their teams to lose in certain scenarios,

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Speaker 3: Like he was saying, Hey, we got to be making

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Speaker 3: but you can't tell me that it's that hard to

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Speaker 3: it him just acknowledging that part of it, because trying

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Speaker 3: we just got to put the best players out there

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Speaker 3: and you know, compete forty eight minutes and play our hardest,

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Speaker 3: that's not reality. And again, I think the Pacers have

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Speaker 3: it was honestly naive for a long time to not

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Speaker 3: look at it now, like all the like pearl clutching

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Speaker 5: I don't care unethical it looks.

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Speaker 3: I don't care if you're bending the rules to your

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Speaker 3: favor do whatever you gotta do to get better. Because

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Speaker 3: the part that Adam Silver just didn't mention was, Okay,

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Speaker 3: fans are willing to be terrible this year at least

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Speaker 5: So that's what you're sacrificing. In my opinion.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no one's mad at the Mavericks for not

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Speaker 3: one pick and then drafting Cooper Flag. So why should

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Speaker 3: the Pacers care about, you know, short term I guess

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Speaker 3: success versus the long term, bigger success of getting back

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Speaker 4: I think Cuban got into that. I thought was interesting

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Speaker 4: we've seen this new Hey, these are the luxury tax

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Speaker 4: the second apron. He mentioned it's now going to become

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Speaker 4: harder for NBA teams to have multiple guys on max contracts,

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Speaker 4: oh yes, and retain them and still build a team

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Speaker 4: interesting because that's kind of what Pritchard is fighting right now,

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Speaker 4: Like is it Kevin Pritcher's job to build a winner

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Speaker 4: that matter at all? I? I don't. Again, I think

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Speaker 4: his job is to build the championship team more than

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Speaker 4: just a bummer that you have to weigh part of that.

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Speaker 4: But again, that's their out of how the NBA has

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Speaker 2: I can kind of lean into that because my dad

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Speaker 2: and so I got to watch the Kentucky Colonels and

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Speaker 2: the Virginia Squires and all those teams. And I don't

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Speaker 2: I remember being able to watch Doctor j I remember

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Speaker 4: Because of the fine, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny. You know, before Rick released that

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Speaker 4: Again, Rick did make it clear yesterday Zubots and and

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Speaker 2: And again, five hundred thousand dollars for Utah that has

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Speaker 4: You know, is there some sort of second third offense

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Speaker 2: All right, so we'll keep an eye on that again.

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Speaker 2: The Pacers return to action after the All Star Break,

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Speaker 2: He was a guy, you know. He referred to himself

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Speaker 2: He'd talk about guys that he didn't like the way

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Speaker 2: later on he was completely exonerated for. Because of that,

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Speaker 2: and just they don't make characters like that anymore. James

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Speaker 2: just old school, fun guy, larger than life, big dude,

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Speaker 4: Fun are you Saying Mick cronan is Not.

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Speaker 2: Dougmo Mick cronan is Not Doug. Moo mick Cronin for

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Speaker 2: Michigan state last night as he was COACHING. Ucla, yeah he's.

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Speaker 3: Wild i'm just waiting for the update of when he's. Fired, honestly,

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Speaker 3: being bad to him throwing.

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Speaker 2: Tantrums so he had a player that you could say

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Speaker 2: That it didn't look like a particularly dirty play to.

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Speaker 2: Me WHEN i watched it. Back did you, Think, James.

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Speaker 5: NO i think That Mick cronan is a wild.

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Speaker 3: Coach And i'll say that, mildly but, YEAH i don't

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Speaker 4: AREA i, Have but, boy he's wildly. Entertaining he makes

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Speaker 3: Won, Sure Mick cronin doing all, that and you ain't

436
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 3: winning nothing if you tried that AT.

437
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 5: Iu these folks will run him out Of bloomington with.

438
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 3: Pitchforks please come on, now.

439
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: UH i think he did get To i'm looking it

440
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 2: up and now he's gone to The sweet sixteen a

441
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: couple of, times but it's been a couple Of.

442
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah what are they friend tournament team this? Year BUT

443
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 4: i think they threw up the graphic last. NIGHT i

444
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 4: think they Had indiana Maybe UCLA's tens left in the big.

445
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 4: TIME i am curious What friday night's gonna look like

446
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 4: inside Of. Maki, now you, know the urgency For purdue

447
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 4: after already losing an assembly hall and then kind of

448
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 4: where Is? Indiana you? Know at you, know obviously we

449
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 4: saw them Against illinois pretty much get handled that entire,

450
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 4: game but you, know they haven't played much outside of that.

451
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 4: Lately like where is a guy Like Nick? DORN i

452
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 4: mean he you, know the insertion of the starting, lineup

453
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 4: they find a little spark with, him and then he

454
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 4: hasn't you, know hit The frankli hit the side of

455
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 4: the backboard more than not here over the last three

456
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 4: or four. Games and it's just a quick turnaround For.

457
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 4: PURDUE i think a quick turnaround emotionally For. Purdue obviously

458
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 4: it's a rival you would hope and believe that you're

459
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 4: going to be ready Come friday, night but definitely curious

460
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 4: how that will go inside of MACIV i Think indiana

461
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 4: needs one more to feel, really really safe entering The

462
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 4: Big ten, tournament and that's you, know Obviously produce just

463
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 4: looking to beat their.

464
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: Rival All, right we'll talk about all of, that including

465
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 2: the game itself With michigan last night And purdue coming.

466
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: Up in just a, moment we'll look ahead of The indiana.

467
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: Game more of your thoughts as we check out the

468
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: text line at the moment at two nine ten. Seventy

469
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: you can call us up there as, well two three

470
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: nine ten seventy and we'll be happy to talk to

471
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: you right here at ninety three five and one seven

472
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: five the. Fan that was tough one last night up

473
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: at Mac. Arena as The Michigan wolverines come, in they

474
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: get off to a big. Start, actually the star was

475
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: okay For. Purdue they got off to a quick start

476
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 2: in the first four or five. Minutes, kevin it felt, like,

477
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 2: hey this is going to be a, knockdown drag out

478
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: all night. Long and then there was just that ten

479
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: minute period Where michigan just couldn't miss threes that were

480
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: getting offensive. Rebounds, uh nothing was going right For. Purdue

481
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: the next, thing you, know you look up and it's

482
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: a twenty Point Michigan.

483
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 4: League, YEAH i, MEAN i know on the score. Board

484
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 4: it WAS i guess back and forth if you want

485
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 4: to say, that for the first whatever five to seven.

486
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 4: Minutes but there were a couple of possessions early on

487
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: Where purdue fouled going after rebounds AND i was, like,

488
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 4: wow you just don't really see. That and it was

489
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 4: Because michigan was, BIGGER i guess is why they got

490
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 4: whistled for these. Fouls they tried to whatever kind of

491
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: go through that mission, size and even early ON i

492
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 4: thought The kaufman W ren efficiency wasn't really. Therest too

493
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 4: many bunnies. Came he really. STRUGGLED i don't know what

494
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: they layups. Were at one point it was five or

495
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 4: FOURTEEN i.

496
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 3: SAW i, mean you don't make. Layups you're not gonna

497
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: wind very many basketball games to any.

498
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: Level it sounds, like, guys and watching a little bit

499
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 2: of last, night sometimes you're playing those big teams and

500
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: you go a little bit quicker on those layups than

501
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: you normally, would or you try to like your.

502
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 5: Boy when we go play with Jam va and the.

503
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: GUYS i, mean anybody trying to come at me WHEN

504
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: i go to the, Basket i'm taking a business decision

505
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: and throwing it up a little.

506
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 4: QUICKER i, mean think About purdue starting. Line if they

507
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: Started Oscar cloff and Tre Kaufman. Ren by college basketball,

508
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 4: standards that's a big power forward and. Center, absolutely so

509
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 4: most teams they play are not responding with the same. Size,

510
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 4: yes they might have one guy that's that, big so

511
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: he's On. Cluff that Means Cofflan ren's got a smaller, Dude,

512
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 4: okay vice. Versa they put him On coutman ring because

513
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: he's more the score Then kluff is able to operate

514
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 4: a little bit. More, Michigan ain't That. Michigan, hell they

515
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: got the six a dude On Braden smith for part

516
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: of the. Game it just they're just a different. Animal

517
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: AND i thought their length bothered the hell out Of

518
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: purdue even, early even when the score was back and

519
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 4: forth there, so and Eventually, michigan you, know banged home

520
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 4: a bunch of threes like they don't usually. Do that

521
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 4: was their second best three point shooting.

522
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: Night of the.

523
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 4: Year so, yeah those are the two big takeaways from.

524
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: Me perdue was really bothered by length that usually they

525
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: have and the other team. Doesn't And michigan's a wagon

526
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: AND i would BE i don't say this about any

527
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 4: team in college basketball right. NOW i would be surprised

528
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 4: if they were not playing at Least saturday night inside

529
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 4: Of Lucasoa stadium In, april if Not monday.

530
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: Night they sure look the part last. Night it didn't

531
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: really affect the. Game but did you guys think That

532
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: kluff got hosed on that on that flagrant call in

533
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: the second half he got knocked looked at me like

534
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: he got knocked in to the to the Opposing michigan.

535
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 2: Player and they reviewed it AND i kept looking at

536
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: it AND i couldn't. See they said he had clamped

537
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: his leg around the. GUY i didn't see. THAT i

538
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: saw a guy that got just bumped into another. Player,

539
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: kevin do you see that? One?

540
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, No humbo came back and, said you, know maybe

541
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 4: cla you know, whatever he clamped it a little bit.

542
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: THERE i. DON'T i didn't see it to that. Degree

543
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: but it seems like nowadays with how they officiate that.

544
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: Stuff they're more willing to go to the, flagrant WHICH

545
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 4: i don't necessarily agree. With part of me, said have

546
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 4: we watched the fierce kid Of Michigan state and some

547
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 4: of the stuff that he gets away with?

548
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: Here but, honestly they've really been on him about some

549
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: of that stuff.

550
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: That he did, well not not early. On early, ON

551
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 4: i thought they let him get away with too much of.

552
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: IT i think lately they've done a little bit. More

553
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 4: but that's. Wrong but, YEAH i mean, AGAIN i think

554
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 4: that had absolutely zero bearing on the.

555
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 2: Game zach he eat attendance last? Night did you guys catch?

556
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 7: That?

557
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: NO i didn't see, him didn't recognize him at all

558
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: when he was walking by or anybody was walking by

559
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: kept saying The Zach edie.

560
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 5: GUY i was, like, man but it's taller than, that

561
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 5: a little short on the.

562
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 3: Screen BUT i did see, him and, honestly they could

563
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: use him right about.

564
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: Now AND i don't want to go that, far BUT

565
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 4: i GUESS i.

566
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: Will who cares this?

567
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: RADIO i do wonder if you know you have like

568
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: your shots in your or your your time to try

569
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: to go after national championship and a certain, era you,

570
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: know was that shot a couple of years ago when

571
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: you were in The National. Championship he just unfortunately ran

572
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: up against a Juggernaut yukon team that was on you,

573
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 3: know the back to back. Run because that team to

574
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: where they are, NOW i can't say they predue is.

575
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: Better you, know there are preseason number one AND i

576
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: can't sit sit here today and, say, oh, MAN i

577
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: feel very good about them playing in the final. Four

578
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: but at the same, time, well they have five losses this,

579
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: year AND i want to say three or four are

580
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: against you, know some of the top, teams top five

581
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: teams in the. Country so they're a good team in my,

582
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: opinion just not a great team at the.

583
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: Moment, WELL i think that's what last night probably Signed

584
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: purdue up. For you. Know Matt painter had a quote

585
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: after the game of you, know the final test is

586
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 4: the Nca, tournament and he's certainly right about. That and

587
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: Usually purdue is the. Reverse you, know Usually produce had

588
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 4: the great big ten runs and the great you, know

589
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: so many big ten, championships et, cetera et, cetera and

590
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 4: then you, Know march is different for. Them the last

591
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: night secured for, them you, know and obviously we'll see

592
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 4: how the bracket, unfolds but they likely will have to

593
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 4: BEAT i would say three of those types of teams

594
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 4: that you've mentioned they've lost to this. Year just look

595
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 4: at their home Losses Iowa, State, Illinois. Michigan it's very

596
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: rare For purdue to three home. Losses those are three

597
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 4: teams we all think could be here At Lucasolo stadium

598
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 4: in a few. Weeks but that's kind of the path

599
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: That purdue very well could have to go through to

600
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: win it. All you, know last night to me just

601
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 4: eliminates an all, likelihood the number one seed. Possibility you

602
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: went last, night you're still very much in that ballpark,

603
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 4: There so that's the. Question, obviously you've got to get

604
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 4: through whatever you're going to. Be let's call. It let's

605
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 4: Call purdue a two, seed, yeah you, know, fifteen and

606
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 4: then whatever the seven to, ten and then maybe the

607
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 4: three of the. Six and then if that one seed

608
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: pops up on the other side of the, bracket let's

609
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: call that one Seed Duke. Okay and then another region

610
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 4: let's call one seed, Whatever, arizona and then you, know

611
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: you could be looking at the other side of the.

612
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 4: Bracket SO i think that's what it kind of, secured of,

613
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 4: like all, right this, pathway if you're going to do,

614
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 4: it is going to be. Brutal and that's probably the

615
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 4: biggest difference from two years. Ago. James, yes obviously the

616
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 4: edy element is, there but in that year it Was,

617
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 4: Yukon purdue and everybody. Else, right this year is not

618
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: that at. All it's to, me It's. Michigan and THEN

619
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: i think you've got a core of about six to

620
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: eight teams that are all as good as That purdue

621
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: team from two years. AGO i mean when you look

622
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: at the top heavy nature to you, know Again duke

623
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: In illinois And, houston certainly the big twelve, Teams houston And,

624
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: arizona and you, know we'll see Iowall, state we'll see

625
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: exactly what The kansas situation looks. Like that to me

626
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: is like, legit you, know two to, seven two to,

627
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 4: eight which AGAIN i just don't remember that happening in

628
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: college basketball here in recent.

629
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: Years. Yeah Just i'm looking At Chill lonardi's latest, bracketology

630
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: and right now he would Have purdue playing in The

631
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: west and their first game would be again this is right,

632
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: now would be Against. Navy they win, that they'd get

633
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: the winner Of villanova In, georgia and then to advance

634
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: after the next, weekend they'd probably have to Play kentucky

635
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: Or Texas. Tech so that's just where we're at right.

636
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: Now And indiana sitting at a nine seed in bracketology

637
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: right now and actually at eight and seven of the conference,

638
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: record and maybe they'd have to Sweep perdue to get,

639
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: this but he says the highest projected seed that they

640
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: could possibly get would be, six but it feels like

641
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 2: they'd have to go on quite a run to move

642
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: up from nine to. Six james for, sure for. Sure,

643
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: yeah so there's college basketball in a, Nutshell. KEVIN i did,

644
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 2: one AND i did. Note you're wearing A tiger Is

645
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: BACK t shirt and A Tiger woods. Hat is that

646
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: anything to do with the fact THAT i read an

647
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: article yesterday Said tiger's not ruling himself out of The

648
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: masters this?

649
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: Year hmm. Hmmm Jeff, rickard were you valedictorian back in

650
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: the day out?

651
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: There and definitely, not definitely not?

652
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: Valedictorian mark a little under the weather, here was maybe

653
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: hoping for a little audio potentially With.

654
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 8: Tiger woods or what do you want?

655
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: Now he? Said he was asked very directly, right, yeah

656
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: if The masters is off the, table and he responded

657
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: with a, no, correct.

658
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 9: Right because an' the hosting his tournament this? Weekend, yeah The. Genesis,

659
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 9: yeah they're in Southern. California and he offered up a

660
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 9: nice smirk. Afterwards So i'm here for it if he.

661
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 4: Goes, Boy i'll tell you. What it sounded a little

662
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: bit Like ricola responding to me about The Notre Dame virginia. Trip,

663
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: there that's WHAT i heard. THERE i didn't hear it out, right,

664
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: No and, yeah it was very, reminiscent you, know back

665
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: in the. Day certainly not, recently but you, know back

666
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: in the. Day you may be text someone that you're

667
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: interested in and you're kind of sitting there looking at

668
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: your phone and then DID i see the three dots pop?

669
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: Up is she just?

670
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: Waiting is she?

671
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: Responding it's.

672
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: Possible wait a minute, here you're telling me there's a chance.

673
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: What was you would know what was the latest surgery

674
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: in how?

675
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: Long there's a chance that's HOW i fell? Yesterday two? Months,

676
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: yeah he had a Backst do you want to try

677
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: for a?

678
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 10: Fourth?

679
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 4: Easy, now we got to draw the. Line come on

680
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: that mark five months. AGO i think it was. Back

681
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: it wasn't An achilles like seven months.

682
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: AGO i MEAN i remember that The achilles.

683
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: Back he had more surgeries than you, know insert your

684
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: plastic surgeon joke about you know whoever. Here, yeah he's

685
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: had a lot of.

686
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: Them well it's, Possible, kevin but exactly what you, Heard,

687
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: jeff it's.

688
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: POSSIBLE i think he's gonna play, it AND i think

689
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: he's gonna.

690
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: WIN.

691
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 5: Kb can you give me your top three favorite athletes all?

692
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: Time Luke caroen go To tiger And Bonzie colson in some, order.

693
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: Going you gotta have A Notre dame guy on, There

694
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: Notre dame.

695
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: Basketbka we were talking About luke hearen go to the

696
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: other day To Notre dame guys on.

697
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: THERE i was, THINKING i haven't Heard bonzie's name mentioned

698
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: in a.

699
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: While, mark if you could find that question and answer,

700
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: CLIP i could use a little exciting jolt here on

701
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: This wednesday. Morning if you don't mind here Just tiger

702
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: responding to. That i'll do my.

703
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: Best coming up at the top of the, hour we're

704
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: gonna talk To Nathan brown about.

705
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: You forget that way when you saw the three, dots,

706
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: thinking oh, yeah.

707
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 7: What's it gonna, BE i wouldn't SAY, kb it's gone both,

708
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 7: away and then they would, stop the three dots would.

709
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: Stop i'm, like what the, Hell, Apple i'm not gonna lie.

710
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: Brother you, know you think the three dots are going one,

711
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: way you get the yeah.

712
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: Text, okay thumbs up turned into tell me or.

713
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: You get the you, know oh they're really upset, text

714
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: And i'm, like, ah you, Know and that's when my

715
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: three dots stopped.

716
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 4: Working three dots turned into a two or three, paragrapher

717
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: and then EXACTLY i wasn't, won and THAT i just

718
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: want to go.

719
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: Back i've been a very good, READER i would say

720
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: for the majority of my. Life but your boy does

721
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: not do very long text. Messages so has cost me

722
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: a past a little.

723
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: Bit with you in regards to your.

724
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Recovery is The master's off the table for? You?

725
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 7: NO i NEED i need a little more juice in.

726
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: That.

727
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 5: No no was a little well we'll.

728
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: Take it was. Pointed it was a definitive. No he

729
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: didn't hesitate.

730
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely so how does it work if you won The

731
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: masters before you automatically get a chance to play it?

732
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 4: Again you, know it's. FUNNY i RUN i Believe Mark

733
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: dykon's been an entriant. Before, mark you've done The master's

734
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: pool THAT i run, before have you? Not so you,

735
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: KNOW i was bored one night this week AND i was,

736
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: like you know, what time to dial up The master's.

737
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: Pool let's see who's in this year's field for twenty twenty.

738
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: Six And i'm scrolling through the invite to he's trying

739
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: to sign them to some groups here and you, know

740
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: it's alphabetically AND i start going down the list and sure,

741
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: enough Invitee Tiger.

742
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 11: Woods AND i thought to, myself wait a, Minute wait

743
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 11: a freaking, minute he has yet to say. No and

744
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 11: then you hear that and again it sounded Like Rick

745
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 11: carlisle responding to My Notre dame trip invite from a

746
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 11: couple of weeks.

747
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 4: AGO i THINK i.

748
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: HEARD i think there's a better.

749
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: Chance this wasn't the response that he gave you at

750
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: the trade deadline with the.

751
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: No don't you feel, Though, james it's a better there's

752
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: a better chance Of tiger playing at The masters this

753
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: year Than rick going to A Notre Dame virginia game With.

754
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: KEVIN i don't.

755
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 5: KNOW i THINK kb be holding out on.

756
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: Us you, know he's played golf with the commissioner, before

757
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: SO i Think rick CARL i will be like a

758
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: rung below.

759
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: That to be very, clear commissioner Is Roger, goodell the

760
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: most beloved commission in. Sports right, now.

761
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 3: People now Hate Adam Silver, WELL i would say right,

762
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: now as far As american, sports he has to.

763
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 5: BE i mean by default Because adam silver is.

764
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: Approved Riting manfred Brought manfred is the.

765
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: Worst, no he can't be in. There and THEN i

766
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: Saw i've read about the THE nhl guys from LB, a.

767
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 5: M L b P a like president or. Whatever, yeah he.

768
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: Was having an affair with his sister in.

769
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: Law that will be.

770
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: Well that and misappropriation of some funds, Perhaps, YEAH i

771
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: just make some of.

772
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: It let's make some Of tigers acts seem pretty normal.

773
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: HERE i don't know until we see a news breaking news.

774
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: Day you know there's a golf club stuck in the,

775
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: back you, know winshield of a.

776
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 5: CAR i don't.

777
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: KNOW i got some breaking. News caleb has stepped into

778
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: the control, room is about to Relieve Mark. Dyton we

779
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: we had to tap on the, uh the right arm

780
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: there and make a call to the. Bullpen So caleb

781
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: is going to take us home.

782
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 4: Today caleb is always unbelievable effort from. Him we appreciate

783
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: it on very very short. Notice AND i Hope Mark

784
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: dyton feels better amidst his fumbling through some audio.

785
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: There, yeah, yeah a rough. Morning this. Morning we were

786
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: informed That mark had to stop the car and.

787
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 4: If you project out on the, highway wouldn't you just

788
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 4: turn it? AROUND i can't believe he came.

789
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: IN i, Know i'm. Impressed playing.

790
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: Hard someone mentioned in the in the text, Line they're, like,

791
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: YEAH i would have turned, around and you would all

792
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: you all would have had to find your peacock sounds

793
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: on your.

794
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 5: Own very, true BUT.

795
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: I Appreciate mark coming in and, honestly as somebody who

796
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: missed a couple of shows what two weeks, AGO.

797
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 5: I can feel your.

798
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: Brother, yeah there's something going. AROUND i think my youngest

799
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: might have some of it, Too So, mark take care of,

800
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: yourself get better. Today he's leaving the control room as

801
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: we speak right, now but we certainly hope that he's

802
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: good to go and ready to get back at it.

803
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: Tomorrow SO i got to get him credit for coming.

804
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: In, yeah you stick around long enough to get the

805
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: cluster truck at the beginning of the, week and then

806
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: if you feel a little, ill you, know you bow

807
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 3: out gracefully later.

808
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: On there's A pto joke somewhere in, there but we'll

809
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: just let that so. THERE i am. Curious Nathan browns

810
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: going joint, us come a ut nine o'clock we'll talk

811
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 4: a Little colts. Again we're in now day two of

812
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: the franchise tag window combine coming up next. Week someone

813
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 4: brought up to me yesterday and there's a little bit

814
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: of a nerdy element to.

815
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: It so but.

816
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: Would The colts use it? All the transition?

817
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: Tag oh, man you've asked about this BECAUSE i went

818
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: down a rabbit hole and put out an explainer this.

819
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: Morning, wow, okay dogs work, well then you, go because

820
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 4: this is fresh on your. Mind can you explain in

821
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: the most elementary? Way AND i don't, know maybe we

822
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: should say this for eight, thirty but if you can

823
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: do it, here explain the difference between what we normally

824
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: refer to as a franchise tag versus what the transition

825
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: tag would be a little.

826
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: Cheaper, yes the transition tag is a little bit, cheaper

827
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: but there's less of an incentive to do with. Meaning

828
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: So i'll break it down real. Quick there's three type

829
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: of tags you can, do the non exclusive, tag the exclusive,

830
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: tag and the transition. Tag the exclusive tag or non

831
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: exclusive tag is the most popular because let's SAY i

832
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: Signed jeff to a.

833
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 5: Contract that means that, You.

834
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: Jeff if you're a non exclusive franchise tag, person you

835
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: can sign an offer sheet with.

836
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: Another team and you can match it AND.

837
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 5: I can match.

838
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: It but if you, LEAVE i am entitled to at

839
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: least two first round picks or some sort of draft

840
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: compensation if we agree to like basically like a signing,

841
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: trade if that makes, Sense and so that takes the,

842
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 3: salary like the salary of the non exclusive franchise tag

843
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: is the average over the last five years of the

844
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: highest paid players at your position or one hundred and

845
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: twenty percent of your previous year's, salary whichever one is.

846
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: Higher so Obviously Alec, pierce for, example one hundred and

847
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: twenty percent of his rookie contract is not going to

848
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: be anywhere near the max value or what he should be,

849
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: paid so he would get the average of the five

850
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: years of the highest paid players at the position over

851
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: that time. Spam so for the exclusive franchise, tag it's

852
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: a little bit. Different the biggest difference is that you

853
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: have no right to negotiate with another team IF i

854
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: sign you to a non exclusion or to excluse the franchise.

855
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: Tag the reason why it doesn't really happen is because

856
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: it's locked into the highest paid players at your position

857
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: for that previous, year not the last, five so that

858
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: could be actually. Higher and if you look at the

859
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: numbers and things like, THAT i think the last person

860
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: that got the exclusive tag Was Dak prescott in twenty.

861
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 5: Twenty it's very rarely.

862
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: Used and then.

863
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: When you look at the last one on the list transition,

864
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: tag this is the cheapest, one and this one takes

865
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 3: the average of the top ten salaries at your, position

866
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: and so in this, scenario it's obviously cheaper and it

867
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 3: works better for your. Team, however if you sign an

868
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: offer sheet with a new team AND i don't match,

869
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: IT i don't get a chance to get any draft,

870
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: compensation which is why teams don't do. It, like for,

871
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: EXAMPLE i could, say, hey we want to pay you,

872
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 3: this and then you're looking, like, Well i'm not Gonna

873
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: like why WOULD i agree to a transition tag or sign?

874
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: That why would you even offer me that IF i

875
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: could just up and leave and you don't get anything

876
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: in return for. Me so that's why teams rarely use,

877
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: that and they don't use it necessarily a positions that are.

878
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: Premium so that's as Plain english AS i can explain.

879
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: It it's a little more nuanced than, that But i'll

880
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: put out and explaining this. Morning actually as the athletic

881
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: you can go check that out and bread for. Yourselves

882
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: but that is the gist of, it and, honestly for

883
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 3: the purposes of conversations here on this, show we will

884
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: operate under the franchise, tag and we refer to that

885
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: term as the non exclusive franchise tag because that's the

886
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: one that pretty much every team has used, recently and

887
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: it's the only one that The colts have used during

888
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: The chris ballad, era which was With Michael Pitman.

889
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 5: Junior a couple of years.

890
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: Ago we Saw Kirk cousins get a couple of. Those

891
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: how many of those can a team give?

892
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 10: You?

893
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Two is that?

894
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: IT i believe it's, Two but again the price goes,

895
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: up so like.

896
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 5: There's nowhere in.

897
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: The world just.

898
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 5: You get tagged, again like you can't franchise.

899
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: Tag Daniel jones and transition back a.

900
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah but you. CAN i think What jeff was asking

901
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: was can you be tagged again in the future that you.

902
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: Can't it's gotten, exactly but it's very rare that you

903
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: do that because then again you're you're, basically if you

904
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: tag somebody twice two years in a, row you're guaranteeing

905
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: them two years of a fully guaranteed salary that is

906
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: at the pretty much highest price point in the. Market

907
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 3: so typically you want to try to strike a long term,

908
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 3: deal WHICH i do think if we see that happen

909
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: With Alec, pierce this wouldn't be a scenario of him

910
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: playing hardball and Saying i'm not gonna play on the.

911
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: TAG i think it's more so kind of like we Saw,

912
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: pittman where you use it to make sure you don't,

913
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: leave and then we come to the table and we

914
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: figure out what we can. Do and, honestly, GUYS i

915
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: was looking At pittman and the numbers from a few years.

916
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 5: Ago so when he.

917
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: Got, tagged and again that was a nine A scooster franchise,

918
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: tag his projected salary that, year fully guaranteed was gonna

919
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: be twenty one point eight million, dollars and now the

920
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 3: tag for wide receiver has risen to about twenty eight,

921
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 3: EIGHT i want to, say or somewhere in that. Range,

922
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: SO i, mean, boy great time to be on the open.

923
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: Market if You're i'm Not Michael, Pman i'm. Sorry if

924
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: You're Ally, pierce.

925
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah good for. Him all, Right, caleb you ready to.

926
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: Go you're in the, seat you're all settled, in and

927
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: he's got to start finding some.

928
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: Foods, man how about? That this looks like twenty twenty all.

929
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: Over it's good to see you about this for. Here

930
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: thanks for coming in on short. Notice we, appreciate no.

931
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: Problem all, right let's check it.

932
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: Down The Morning checkdown brought to you by The Barbosol

933
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: Horizon League Basketball championships Marsh Stars year The Barbarisol Horizon

934
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: League Basketball championships Leave march eight through, tens tickets and

935
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: more At horisonleague dot.

936
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: Com slashing Indeed michigan the number one team in the,

937
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: country knocking off for Duet macki last, night ninety one

938
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: to eighty the final. Score they had led by as

939
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: many as twenty in the first. Half and they were,

940
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: tough those big. Guys yesterday Today mara had ten, points eleven,

941
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: Rebounds Mares johnson twelve points and eleven, Rebounds Yaxell Linda

942
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: borg had thirteen point, points even hit a three out,

943
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: there seven, assists and Then Elliott cadeau was terrific at

944
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: point guard For michigan seventeen, points seven. Assists that was

945
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: enough to Overcome Trey Coffin ren's twenty seven, points twelve,

946
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: Rebounds Braydon smith's twenty points and six, assists but almost

947
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: all of Those Braidon smith. Numbers kevin the game has already.

948
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: Decided it was almost all in the second.

949
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 4: Half, yeah he was scoreless in the first. Half. Again

950
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 4: The michigan, LENGTH i just thought bothered the hell out

951
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: Of purdue much and honestly was indicative of What purdue

952
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: usually does to other. Teams even Tray Cofflin, wren you,

953
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: know the stat line the end of the night is,

954
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 4: great but the efficiency early, ON i thought he was

955
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 4: really really. Bothered kluff And jacobson were terrible in trying

956
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: to finish through some of That michigan. Length so that

957
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: was the, big big. Issue And michigan's a, WAGON i

958
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: mean they. Are i'd be hard pressed to find a

959
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: more dominant college basketball team in recent. YEARS i tried

960
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 4: to rattle off some of the stats yesterday just to. Reiterate,

961
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: One michigan now twenty five and. One that was their

962
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 4: twenty first win by double digits this, season twenty one

963
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: of twenty. Five and look at their non. Conference it's

964
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 4: not like they were shy in the non. Conference and

965
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: they're doing it in a year in The Big ten

966
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 4: where we talk about The Big, ten like we haven't

967
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: talked about the conference as a whole in quite some.

968
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: Time So Dusty may's got a team that should be

969
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: playing into the month Of.

970
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: April, yeah they are twenty five and, one they've won

971
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: eleven in a. Row they sit atop these standings in

972
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: The Big. Ten and that's all she wrote for a

973
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: regular season hopes For purdue Boiler makers to win the.

974
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: Conference As Matt painter pointed out last, night these.

975
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 12: Dudes ain't losing four. Games we got four. Losses they

976
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 12: ain't losing four. Games so that's just. That that's reality

977
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 12: when you've been in a league or over twenty five,

978
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 12: years that's reality when you face up to people like.

979
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 12: That that's why they're ranked the way they, are because

980
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 12: like you can be preseason number one in the. Country

981
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 12: that means, nothing but when you're in the middle Of

982
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 12: february and you're number one in the, country it means

983
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 12: a whole lot because you earned that. One they, earn

984
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 12: they earned what they've.

985
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: Gotten that Was Matt. Painter, obviously it Was Robbie, hummel

986
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: big night for him last, night and not was he

987
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: broadcasting On, peacock but they introduced The Robbie hummel, bobblehead

988
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: And Matt painter also pointed out that it had to

989
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: give him a bobblehead because they couldn't get him a.

990
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: Statue so there you, Go james fair.

991
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: Enough he's a great player for, them a lot of you,

992
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 3: know great talent has come through their.

993
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: Program college basketball later, Tonight butler At georgetown starts at

994
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: six thirty with the Tip our pregame begins at six

995
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: o'clock here at ninety three five and one on seventy.

996
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: Five the fan can watch it ON tv At Fox Sports.

997
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: One butler will be. Playing they have been playing for

998
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: a long time now without the Freshman jack. McCaffrey he's

999
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: going to get a red shirt. Now, kevin he've been

1000
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: out with an infection after having his wisdom teeth removed

1001
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: and coach said he had lost fifteen pounds and we

1002
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 2: haven't seen him play since really Early. December, right it's been.

1003
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 4: A, while. YEH i mean he's one of the slew

1004
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 4: of guys that are in street. Clothes The finley Biz

1005
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: jack injuries the bigger one for tonight six half point

1006
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 4: underdog Against. Georgetown it looked like sounded Like finley was

1007
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: close to Playing sunday Against Seaton, hall so outed a

1008
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 4: couple more days. Off Go Nation's capital tonight six thirty,

1009
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: again another six thirty tip here fs one For. Butler

1010
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: Butler xavier coming Up saturday. AFTERNOON i want to say it's,

1011
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 4: one one. Thirty should we go a little four?

1012
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: Pack let's do. It let's do it.

1013
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: Tax line, three, one, seven, nine ten. Seventy.

1014
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah Put butler in your text name. Email, yep good

1015
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: stuff and you got the. Connection you got the. Hookup

1016
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: for those, tickets, man you've been generous with those this.

1017
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: Year appreciate. That we can also tell you That Rick

1018
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: carlisle met with the media yesterday as The pacers get

1019
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: ready to return to action after The All star. Break

1020
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 2: they would play tomorrow night And friday night In washington

1021
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 2: against The, wizards both teams trying to keep that bottom

1022
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: four standing alive in the ULTIMATE nba, Standing so you

1023
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: can get a better chance at a lot of. Repick

1024
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: fourteen percent chance for the bottom four, teams that's equal,

1025
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: there but the fifteen is what twelve and a half,

1026
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: Percent kevin is not that much.

1027
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 4: Different, well and AGAIN i kind of look at the

1028
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: top four odds, better you, KNOW i think that's a

1029
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: little bit more. Indicative obviously the number one pick would be,

1030
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: great but you, know if you finish in the top,

1031
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 4: THREE i think it's a fifty two percent chance to

1032
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 4: retain one of those top four. Picks you start to drop,

1033
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: though it gets into the, thirties and THAT'S i, mean

1034
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: that's notable when you think about just purely odds. There

1035
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 4: so that's the question here of the final twenty seven,

1036
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: games and again we'll see exactly how things play out

1037
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: here of who, plays who Plays tomorrow, night and who

1038
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: Plays friday, night Because friday night's been the one the

1039
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 4: second night of back to backs where The pacers have.

1040
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: Rested coach was asked, Yesterday Coach carlisle asked to, win

1041
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: we might See zubatz And obi topping. Again he says

1042
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: it'll be a while on both of. Them they're progressing

1043
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: steadily but. Slowly James Boyd.

1044
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah and, AGAIN i think they're going to be under

1045
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: a microscope when it comes to their player participation because

1046
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: of the.

1047
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 5: Fine so what does that exactly look?

1048
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: LIKE i know zubats might be a well documented, injury

1049
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: but for some of those guys who GOT i guess

1050
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: docked by THE nba or kind of you, know red,

1051
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: flagged is that something that will make you have to

1052
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 3: play them when it comes to these, games in these?

1053
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: Matchups all, right by the, way welcome to the show,

1054
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: Again Caleb. Asoover will you be interested in THE usa

1055
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: hockey And? Sweden just after three o'clock this.

1056
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 6: Afternoon can't Say i've watched much of the, hockey But

1057
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 6: i've watched all the unique. EVENTS i just find it so,

1058
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 6: fascinating the big, air, skiing the, skeleton all that. Stuff

1059
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 6: that's What i'm more. Into SO i haven't kept up

1060
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 6: too much with the men's and women's.

1061
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: Hockey, Tea.

1062
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: Caleb you know they call Me Indiana. Bone so the

1063
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: skeletons something not kind of you.

1064
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: Know event TO usa will be. Starting connor hellibook in,

1065
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: goal so hopefully it gets hot and they can get

1066
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: on a. Run it's the. Quarterfinals they are the number

1067
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: two seed right. Now canada is seeded number. One sweden

1068
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: the number would have been should have been the number three,

1069
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: seed but they did not win their. Group that's how

1070
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: they ended up in the quarterfinals with The United states

1071
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: because they just didn't score enough points in the round

1072
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: robin to get up that. High so, unfortunately that's a

1073
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: tough matchup for The United. States showing you this, Yesterday Kevin,

1074
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: Canada sweden The United states all twenty five of their

1075
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: roster SPOTS nhl, players so.

1076
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 4: It's gonna Be so we got a bad draw. Here

1077
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: that's the quarterfinal game against a team full of THE nhl.

1078
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: Players, yep that's how it. GOES i don't like, that all,

1079
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: right anything else you guys want to throw in before

1080
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 2: we had to break?

1081
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: Here shout out To Miema ohio stretching that undefeated season

1082
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: another game last, night twenty six and zero over UMass

1083
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: eighty six seventy. SEVEN i forgot u mass was in

1084
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 4: THE mac until last night, there SO i thought this

1085
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: would be their toughest regular season game. Left So pete

1086
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: sooter once again twenty three points for The carmel product

1087
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: For Travis steele in. Company so five to go for

1088
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: Mayem ohio as they try to continue this undefeated. Season

1089
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 4: and AGAIN i think it's. Vital it seems like from

1090
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: a computer, standpoint to go undefeated in the regular, season

1091
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 4: give them a buffer if they lose short of THE Mac.

1092
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 4: TOURNAMENT i know it sounds, crazy BUT ptsd With Indiana

1093
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 4: state is alive and.

1094
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: Well all, right quick time out and we'll talk a

1095
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: little bit more, basketball both college AND nba in a

1096
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: moment here as we continue at two three, nine ten

1097
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: seventy is the text, line would love to hear from.

1098
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: You it's all coming up next at ninety three five

1099
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: and one oh seven five the, Fan good, MORNING i

1100
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: hope Your wednesday is going. Well Got olympic hockey later on,

1101
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: Today United states just after three o'clock quarterfinals Against. Sweden

1102
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: i'm on that a little bit later on in the.

1103
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 7: Meantime some boxing here in the studio as. Well, mann let's,

1104
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 7: go let's go to the, camera, rolling let's. Go i'll

1105
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 7: tell you what we do have.

1106
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: Though Nathan brown From The Indie star is on The

1107
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: Payless lookers hotline right, Now, Nathan Happy wednesday to. You

1108
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 2: hope things are going well for. You don't ever challenge

1109
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: your fandom Of Tiger woods with One Kevin. Bowen you

1110
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: will be rebuked. Immediately that's.

1111
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 10: FAIR i WILL i will keep note of.

1112
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: That all. Right we're obviously calling to talk a little

1113
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: bit about the cults. Today they got a lot of

1114
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: decisions to make in the next week or, two and

1115
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: then even more decisions after. That so for those just

1116
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: joining us this morning kind of set the stage and

1117
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: what the culture looking at right.

1118
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: Now, yeah so the.

1119
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 8: Franchise tag window opens. Yesterday colts now have two weeks to.

1120
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 8: Decide you, know this is a team that has rarely used.

1121
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 8: THIS i Think chris Or Chris ballard has often called

1122
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 8: this a. Tool he's only used it once in HIS gm.

1123
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 10: Tenure it was two years ago when they Tagged.

1124
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 8: Michael pittman junior before they ended up signing him to

1125
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 8: a longer term, deal which is oftentimes what. Happens but

1126
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 8: The colts now not only have to decide whether they

1127
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 8: use that or, not but probably more likely who they

1128
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 8: use it. On between Quarterback Dane Daniel, jones who THEY

1129
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 8: i think view as not only the short term few

1130
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 8: fixed at, quarterback but long term as. Well And Alex,

1131
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 8: pierce who really shined last year and came to the

1132
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 8: end of the fourth year on his rookie.

1133
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 3: Deal, NATHAN i love When i'm on the right track

1134
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think we wrote the same.

1135
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 5: Story, yeah.

1136
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 10: Drop my kids.

1137
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 5: OFF i do think, So, yeah that's what you.

1138
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 3: Know like it's the middle of the offseason and we're

1139
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 3: all literally trying to figure, Out, okay how do we

1140
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: not plays around each other because we're all saying the same.

1141
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: Things BUT i know you let out your reasoning and your.

1142
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 3: Piece but for those who haven't read it quite, yet

1143
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: which way would you lane when it comes to the

1144
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: franchise tag either being used For Daniel jones Or Alec.

1145
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 8: Pierce, YEAH i think a lot of this comes down to.

1146
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 8: RELATIONSHIPS i know you AND i think would probably agree

1147
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 8: that the you, know from talking To Daniel, jones talking

1148
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 8: To Shane steke And Chris, ballard it's really clear that

1149
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 8: even in one year In, Indianapolis Daniel jones has you,

1150
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 8: know created some really tight, relationships really really feels like

1151
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 8: a long time member of this. Team in many, Ways

1152
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 8: he's very close With Shane steiken AND i think if

1153
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 8: you if you, know if you're, Uh chris And shane

1154
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 8: and you really feel like in your heart of hearts

1155
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 8: that that that relationship from you, know the conversations that

1156
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 8: you've had with With daniel and his representation in the off.

1157
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 10: Season if you feel, like you.

1158
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 8: Know even if someone else comes in with a competitive,

1159
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 8: offer that you feel like you can hold on to

1160
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 8: him without, questions.

1161
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 10: THEN i think you probably go and Tag Alec.

1162
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 8: Pierce but, ultimately what it comes down to the you,

1163
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 8: know this team is not going to make the playoffs

1164
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 8: without a competent, quarterback and there just are not a

1165
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 8: whole lot of. Options it's kind of amazing to think

1166
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 8: about the fact That Daniel jones coming off In achilles

1167
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 8: injury is still the top quarterback in the. MARKET i

1168
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 8: THINK espn ranked them, is you, know one of the

1169
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 8: top five free agents out, there and then there's just

1170
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 8: such a steep drop off at, quarterback so you cannot

1171
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 8: afford to lose him this. Offseason so if it takes

1172
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 8: franchise tagging him THAT i think that's the move you

1173
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 8: have to, make and you just have to roll the

1174
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 8: dice With Alec pearson free. Agency BUT i think the

1175
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 8: best case scenario was his betting on the ability to

1176
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 8: work something out With daniel that is good for both

1177
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 8: sides and Tagging alex so you can ensure that you

1178
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 8: hang on to.

1179
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: Him, nathan DID i see you were up At Shane

1180
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: steikens speaking? Engagement was? It was it?

1181
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: Trying, yeah trying On saturday Evenings.

1182
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 4: Old Try west right up North.

1183
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 10: Yep, Yep angle just a couple of miles From.

1184
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: MICHIGAN.

1185
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 4: A how was that? Be what do you? Know like

1186
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 4: Why stichen was? There per?

1187
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 8: Se SO i asked him about that WHEN i was,

1188
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 8: there it sounded like it was kind of like a

1189
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 8: friend of a.

1190
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 10: Friend they were looking. Forward they have this.

1191
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 8: Annual scholarship gala where they try to raise money to

1192
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 8: hand out scholarships for students every year and have a keynote,

1193
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 8: Speaker and it sounded like a close friend of his

1194
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 8: had connections to the university and they asked him to

1195
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 8: do it.

1196
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 2: A couple of months, ago and he.

1197
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 8: Didn't know, that you, KNOW i think when he was

1198
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 8: asked at the, time the you know the, team it's

1199
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 8: still flying.

1200
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 10: High but they told him that it was a.

1201
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 8: Week after The Super, bowl so he knew without question

1202
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 8: that he would be free.

1203
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 10: And able to do.

1204
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 8: IT i mentioned to him that next, year three hundred

1205
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 8: and sixty five days from, them he probably hoped that

1206
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 8: he would be on a football, field because of, course

1207
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 8: The Super bowl is going to be played next year

1208
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 8: On Valentine's, day so we'll see what comes of. That

1209
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 8: but it, was you, know it was great to talk

1210
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 8: to him first time since the you, know the day

1211
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 8: after the, season That i'd gotten a chance to speak with.

1212
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 8: Him the one thing THAT i asked him THAT i

1213
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 8: didn't get a great answer on, was you, know one

1214
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 8: of the things that he mentioned in his end of

1215
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 8: season press conference just was the need to really go

1216
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 8: back and digest the film of the last seven weeks

1217
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 8: to try to get down to the heart of what

1218
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 8: happened and why that team collapsed and what made the

1219
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 8: difference in some of those close games rather than just

1220
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 8: being kind of in the heat of the. Moment and

1221
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 8: he said he was still going through that. Process didn't

1222
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 8: have a great answer on, that but otherwise he said

1223
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 8: he was happy that some of his coordinators got opportunities

1224
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 8: to interview elsewhere for some elevated, positions though ultimately happy

1225
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 8: as well that they will be coming back and those

1226
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 8: are two of the big things that we got into.

1227
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: Again and that's a voice Of Nathan brown covers The

1228
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 4: colts alongside Jol A erickson For The Indianapolis. Star, nathan

1229
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: do you Think Nick cross is in A colts uniform

1230
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty?

1231
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 8: SIX i think that that's one WHERE i think you

1232
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 8: would love to Have nick. BACK i think he had

1233
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 8: some really great, moments particularly this past, season but he's

1234
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 8: he's just not a. GUY i think you can afford

1235
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 8: to overpay when you are you, know when you look

1236
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 8: at the salary cap where The colts are, NOW i

1237
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 8: think some of the sites online have them somewhere around

1238
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 8: thirty five million dollars in cap, space and you know

1239
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 8: you've got to you, know find probably close to that

1240
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 8: amount to pay For Daniel. Jones you've got to find

1241
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 8: money to pay For Alec. Pierce you've got to go

1242
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 8: out and either trade for or sign an impactful edge,

1243
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 8: Sure AND i just don't know, that you, know if

1244
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 8: you Are Chris, ballard that you can afford, to you,

1245
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 8: know put a high price on someone who plays that safety.

1246
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 8: POSITION i think that'd be a great you, know so

1247
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 8: it probably comes down to what someone else in the.

1248
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 10: Market is willing to pay for.

1249
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 8: Him and and if someone else is willing to give

1250
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 8: him a top dollars, DEAL i think if you're the,

1251
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 8: cult you probably have to let him walk and try

1252
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 8: to replace that in free, agency or or look if

1253
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 8: and see if you can scoop someone else to fill

1254
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 8: in that role in the.

1255
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: Draft, again we're talking To Nathan, brown my Favorite colts

1256
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 3: indie star reporter joy ericson a close, Second, nathan you

1257
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: could tell HIM i said, that and then WHEN i

1258
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: talk to, Him i'll say the.

1259
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 5: Opposite so you, Know i'm you.

1260
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: Know you Got Kevin bowen sit over here, too you, know,

1261
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, Say, Star, Okay.

1262
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 3: Star you know me AND kb are like, brothers, MAN

1263
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: i told. Him and he's growing the hair. Out you,

1264
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: know we grow Here. Andy he's got the afro going pretty,

1265
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: soon so you know we we.

1266
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: Brothers but.

1267
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: There you.

1268
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: Go but on a more serious, note when we get

1269
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: a chance to talk To Chris ballard sometime at this

1270
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: point next, week what are some of the bigger, questions

1271
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 3: maybe non draft, related that you will have for him

1272
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: now that we're a few months removed from his end

1273
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: of season press.

1274
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 8: Conference, YEAH i, MEAN i Think the biggest thing THAT

1275
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 8: i want to know is if they feel like they

1276
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 8: are looking to make a big splash when they're looking

1277
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 8: at that other defensive end. Position you, know are YOU i.

1278
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 8: Don't they might not say this out, right but we

1279
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 8: can kind of read between the lines at. Times you,

1280
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 8: know do they see themselves wanting to go out and you,

1281
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 8: know make a trade for A Max.

1282
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: Crosby do, they.

1283
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 8: You, know see themselves in the running to sign a

1284
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 8: little bit younger guy Like Jalen phillips from The.

1285
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 10: Eagles who's the free?

1286
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 8: AGENT i know everyone loves to link The colts And

1287
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 8: trey Hendri Trey hendrickson from The.

1288
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 10: Bengals who you. KNOW i think there's maybe some.

1289
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 8: Line of thought out there that he could get franchise

1290
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 8: tagged for a second.

1291
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: YEAR i don't know if that ends up.

1292
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 8: Happening if those those two sides go their separate, ways

1293
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 8: their feet.

1294
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 10: Still ends up on The.

1295
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 8: Bengals you, know is is.

1296
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 10: He someone even nearing?

1297
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 8: THIRTY i think that they see as a as a

1298
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 8: viable option, THERE i, know right around that thirty year old,

1299
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 8: range especially for a guy who's had some injury concerns

1300
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 8: over these last couple of.

1301
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 10: YEARS i don't.

1302
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 8: Know if you, know if that's the right type of

1303
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 8: guy to go all in on when you really need

1304
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 8: someone that you can trust to have a, big big

1305
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 8: impact of this. Year but you, Know i'd be really

1306
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 8: curious to, know you, know just how aggressive and how

1307
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 8: big a fix they feel like they need to make

1308
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 8: in that.

1309
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: Spot, nathan we talk about The colts all the time

1310
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: and obviously right about all the, time and that doesn't

1311
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of. Secrets but is there

1312
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: anything low key that The colts are working on this

1313
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: this offseason that we don't talk enough.

1314
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 8: About there's, nothing nothing major on my, radar you, KNOW

1315
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 8: i know that WE i think it might come down,

1316
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 8: to you, know maybe who they, make you, know who

1317
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 8: they might sell for that defensive end. POSITION i don't

1318
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 8: know that any of us really, had you, know, say

1319
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 8: them Signing Sauce gardner on our radar at the trade

1320
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 8: deadline when they made that big, deal you, know with

1321
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 8: two first round picks and Throwing Ady mitchell into the

1322
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 8: mix to go and get. Him, SO i you, know

1323
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 8: they tend to be a team that's a little bit

1324
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 8: tough to parse out on just what direction or what

1325
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 8: big things they have cooking. There but as we've Seen

1326
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 8: chris get a little bit, aggressive more, AGGRESSIVE i guess

1327
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 8: you would say over the last year plus in free

1328
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 8: agency and at the trade, DEADLINE i wouldn't be surprised

1329
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 8: to see them go out and try to make a,

1330
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 8: splash especially to fill some of those holes that they

1331
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 8: have there on.

1332
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: Defense always good to talk to, you, Man thanks so

1333
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: much for checking in this. Morning we appreciate. That and

1334
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: now we know You're James boyd's favors over, There so

1335
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: there you. Go thanks for having me a h, right.

1336
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: Buddy he's very low key about.

1337
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 5: That, hey, man you KNOW i appreciate all the GUYS

1338
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 5: i work. With they're all my. Favorites, yeah like you

1339
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 5: all with your.

1340
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: Kids you can't pick a favorite, kid, right it's my

1341
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: Parents WHEN i go, Home i'm their favorite.

1342
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: Kid, well some day you can. Have, yeah it's day

1343
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: to day things. SOMETIMES i, mean you love them both the,

1344
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: same but there are days that you're less happy with

1345
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: one than the. OTHER i told, you IF i have more.

1346
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 3: Than two in the, Future i'm definitely ranking. Them if

1347
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: we get, three we gotta rank.

1348
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 4: Them oh, yeah he's got a mock, draft a big.

1349
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: Board he's got daily big boards here. Exactly speaking of,

1350
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 4: that it's See Daniel JEREMIAH Nfl combine again next. WEEK

1351
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 4: i want to say last year stiching a ballad talked On,

1352
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 4: tuesday which would be next. Week so we'll See Tuesday

1353
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 4: wednesday next, WEEK i believe for the two days we

1354
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 4: head coaches and. Gms but do you guns See Daniel

1355
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 4: jeremiah's mock draft by?

1356
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 7: CHANCE i haven't look at it BECAUSE i saw that

1357
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 7: it was maybe a first round monck AND i wasn't

1358
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 7: sure if he had chosen the teams with the second round.

1359
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 5: PICKS i look at.

1360
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 4: It, yes, again maybe not as much from a cult

1361
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 4: relevance in terms of the actual, pick but he did

1362
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: have seven edge rushers in round. One that to me

1363
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 4: is A i, mean think about, it that's about a

1364
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 4: quarter of the.

1365
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 5: Picks that's a.

1366
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 4: Big number for the pass rush. Position so it does

1367
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 4: sound like some of the early, chatter AND i Believe

1368
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 4: mark can confirm this when he comes, BACK i believe Next. Wednesday,

1369
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 4: well Have Dane Brugler, james your colleague gone with us

1370
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 4: live at the, combine AND i it seems like some

1371
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 4: of the early chatter in the twenty twenty six draft

1372
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 4: classes strong depth at edge, rusher which is not something usually,

1373
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 4: say and it would be very, BENEFICIAL i think to The,

1374
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 4: colts considering they don't pick until number forty seven. Overall so,

1375
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 4: yeah seven edge rushers in the first. Round he Had Ruben.

1376
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 4: Bain Certainly indiana fans remember hiving from national. Title he

1377
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 4: had Rubined bain going four overall to The. Titans also of,

1378
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 4: Note Jeremiah love going to The. CHIEFS i keep on

1379
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 4: forgetting The chiefs of a top ten. Pick Jeremiah love

1380
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 4: With Patrick mahomes.

1381
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: And lord knows they have been looking for a running

1382
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 3: back In Kansas city.

1383
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 4: And shout out To Westfield's Dylan. Theeneman he had him

1384
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 4: The Oregon safety form of produced, safety going eighteen overall

1385
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 4: to The. Vikings so THAT'S i think the Highest i've

1386
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 4: Seen theeneman here as a local.

1387
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: KID i like. That i'll ask you guys the same.

1388
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: Question is there any move that we haven't been talking

1389
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: about that The colts are working? On?

1390
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 3: WELL i probably go With chaveri's. WARD i don't know

1391
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 3: if it's working, on but you have to work to a.

1392
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 3: Conclusion will he be playing football for you in twenty twenty,

1393
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 3: six and if, not if he chooses to retire due

1394
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 3: to his repeated, concussions that CHANGES i think a lot

1395
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: of things for your offseason because suddenly you have another

1396
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 3: void you have to fill at cornerback because he is

1397
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 3: one of your. Starters and then you, know is that

1398
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 3: a draft need you have to? Address is that a

1399
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: free agency? Need and then, structurally when it comes to his,

1400
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 3: contract if he walks away from the, game what does

1401
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 3: that look?

1402
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 5: Like how does that help or hurt your cap? Situation

1403
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 5: and things like.

1404
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: That every situation when a player retire their deal is

1405
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: up is, different and people keep asking me about, it, like,

1406
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: hey if he walks, away what would that do to

1407
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: the cold salary cap? Situation it's very. Unique that's the

1408
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 3: only WAY i can play it right. Now BUT i

1409
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: do want to, know, well he played football again in

1410
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, six and have you come to that answer?

1411
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 3: Yet and that'll be certainly one of the questions THAT

1412
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 3: i or someone else will Ask chris ballor here in

1413
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: about a week or, So.

1414
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: KEVIN i ask you. THIS i, know obviously edge defensive,

1415
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: line we talk about, that but where that linebacker right?

1416
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 3: Now?

1417
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 4: Yeah you, Know Jermaine pratt is a free, agent so

1418
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 4: let's start there that that's the one order of, business

1419
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 4: and then Zaire. FRANKLIN i believe the cap hit For.

1420
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 4: Franklin he's out of contract for a couple of. YEARS

1421
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 4: i think it's like eight, million maybe SIX i want to,

1422
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 4: say coming up something along those. Lines it might be

1423
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 4: a little north of, that now THAT i say it out,

1424
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 4: Loud but, NONETHELESS i could listen to conversations of you

1425
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 4: bring back, neither you bring back, both or you only

1426
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 4: bring back. ONE i personally think you have to upgrade

1427
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 4: at least one spot at. LINEBACKER i don't know if

1428
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 4: you're in a date or you can upgrade both. Financially, now,

1429
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 4: Again Chris ballard has hit on linebackers in the draft. Extraordinarily,

1430
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 4: well probably that no offensive, line probably the two position

1431
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 4: groups he's hit on the best when it comes to draft.

1432
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 4: Picks but that was not the Lu anrumo. Defense so

1433
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 4: there's really no one kind of young waiting in the wings.

1434
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 4: There SO i would part of me, thinks YOU i

1435
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 4: get the disdain For franklin is, high AND i think

1436
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 4: a lot of it is really how he chirps off the. Field,

1437
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 4: frankly you, know him And Jermaine. Pratt as a, Player

1438
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 4: pratt maybe was slightly better this. SEASON i don't know

1439
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 4: IF i put too too much stock into that, there

1440
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 4: BUT i think you are you're bringing one of those

1441
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 4: two back Again pratt as a free, agent and then

1442
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 4: you're going out and you're trying to upgrade