1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Live from val hartbind and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Well, hey to everybody, welcome back. I am Andrew Langer 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: in for Tony Katz today. So glad I can join you, 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: and you can join me, and we can join each other. 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: I want to spend a special shout out to my 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: friends Alexa and Jim out there in Indy, South Indy. 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 2: So glad you guys are tuning in. 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: You can drop me a note if you want Facebook 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: dot com slash Andrew Langer Show. You can also message 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Andrew Underscore. 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: Langer l A n g er. We got a great 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: hour coming up. 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Kent Strang from Americans for Prosperity is going to be 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: joining us in just a little bit. Rachel Moon, who 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: is a social media content creator at Jewish American Advocate, 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: She's going to be joining us as well to talk 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: about anti Semitism. 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: So I want to sum up a little bit more. 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we may come back to and play 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: what the President had to say at the Turning Point 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: event introduced by his son, but since we were talking 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: about Tim Waltz, I do love by the way, I 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: will say this again I think I've said these on 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Tony's airways before. I defy you. I defy you to 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: take a look at Tim Waltz and not immediately think 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: of a worried Fozzy Bear. If you're a Muppet fan. 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: By the way, Muppet's coming back, I believe in January, 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: Tim Waltz looks just like a worried Fazzi Bear. In fact, 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: I think I did that Ai art last summer. But 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: here is Vice President Vance and his remarks. It was 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: what they would call a stem winder, a barn burner 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: of a speech talking about Somalia. Let's play at number nine, and. 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: This is the moral truth we strive the center in 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: our work, in the Trump administration and in this great 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: movement of ours. 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: True Christian politics. 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: It cannot just be about the protection of the born 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: the promotion of the family, as important as those things 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: absolutely are, it must be at the heart of our 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: full understanding of government. Why do we penalize corporations that 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: ship American jobs overseas because we believe in the inherent 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: dignity of human work and every person who works a 44 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: good job in this country. Why why have we worked, 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: without the help of Congress to restricts h one BBSs, 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: for example, because we believe it is wrong for companies 47 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: to bypass American labor just to go for cheaper options 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: in the third world. 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 4: We help older. 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: Americans in retirement, including by ending taxes on. 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: Social Security, because we believe. 52 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 3: In honoring your father and mother rather than shipping all 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: of their money off the Ukraine. We believe in taking 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: care of the poor, which is why we have Medicaid 55 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: so that the least among us can afford their prescriptions 56 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: or to take their kids to see a doctor. And 57 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: it's why we are outraged at the injustice of Tim 58 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: Waltz allowing Somalian immigrants to defraud that program to the 59 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: tune of billions of dollars in ought to go to. 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: Americans, because that's who it's there for. Right. 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: It's not a zero sum game here, ladies and gentlemen. 62 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean, these things have consequences. So every dollar that 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: was shunted out of these programs in Minnesota to go 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: to Somalia, whether legally or illegally, is money that was 65 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: supposed to be used buying four Americans. That was what 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: the American taxpayers were paying for. Now, what I love 67 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: about this You know what I love. I love it. 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: I do genuinely. I love it when politicians have a 69 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: lack of self awareness. 70 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: I do. 71 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: You know it, call it the gallows humor, and me 72 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: call it a bit of shodenfreude, taking joy in the 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: in the pain of somebody else. We know what's happening 74 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, we know who's responsible for it. But guess 75 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: who's going to clean it up? Well, Tim Walls thinks 76 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: he's going to clean it up. Here is what he 77 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: had to say. Let's play kup number ten. 78 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 5: We look who's ever in charge? And I said, unlike 79 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 5: the President, I'm the governor. Now this Whether these programs 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 5: happened before we got here afterwards, it doesn't matter. We're 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 5: here now, we're the ones fixing it. You have my 82 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 5: guarantee on this is that I certainly will have this 83 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 5: thing fixed. And you see that we're on the front 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: end of it. 85 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: That's how this works. 86 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 5: And so would I have wanted to stop this? Would 87 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 5: I have gone out? You know, if you think the 88 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 5: governor goes out and checks somebody on Medicaid and that 89 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 5: they were there, No, but that's somebody in government needed 90 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 5: to do that. And if they didn't do that or 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 5: if there were loopholes in this and what we found 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 5: is these are poorly written and it left opening and 93 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 5: the goal was to get the money out. We'll fix that, 94 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 5: but yeah, I'll take accountability for it. But what if 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 5: you're seeing here is is you're seeing a weaponization. We'll 96 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 5: continue to fix it. They're going to continue to come 97 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 5: up with numbers that don't have it there and it's sensationalized. 98 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 5: I don't expect anything different from this administration, you. 99 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: Know, and do me a favor tonight, email me after 100 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: the show, Email me so that I can. 101 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: I can. I'm gonna I'm gonna actually take that. 102 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: And transcribe it that bizarre words. I'm serious, I watch it. 103 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: I will transcribe it the opening segment of the show tomorrow. 104 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna play this and we are going 105 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: to dissect specifically what Tim Walls had to say in 106 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: response to this. 107 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: Oh, you know, whoever was in charge, we were in charge. 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: Well if we were in charge when we were in charge. 109 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: Well maybe we were in charge of you know, this 110 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: is fraud, but it's not fraud because there's a loophole. 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: We'll close the loophole. No, governor, you were well aware 112 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: of this from from what I understand. And by the way, folks, 113 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: I do a weekly hit on the Twin Cities. Maybe 114 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: we'll also we'll try to get John Justice on. John 115 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: is a colleague of mine and Tony's John Justice does 116 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: the mornings in Twin Cities, and you know John's been 117 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, was talked about the fact that Tim Waltz 118 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: was made aware of this fraud that was happening and 119 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: did nothing about it. In fact, believe the whistleblowers were fired. 120 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: In fact, do me a favor, Lynda. We're going to 121 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: jump down here because here is a state representative, Patty 122 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: Anderson from Minnesota. She is is she is on TV 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: saying that the nine billion dollar figure is probably low. 124 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Let's play at number thirteen, that. 125 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 6: That fraud number that has been put out there by 126 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 6: the US Attorney and of course it's massive. 127 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: I got all of our attention this week talking you know, potentially. 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: Nine billion dollars or more. But the governor has said 129 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: he believes that's unfounded. 130 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 7: And what do you what do you say to that, 131 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 7: because it's still a could be. It's it could be, 132 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 7: and I think, you know, we're going to find out 133 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 7: that the employees at DHS that are doing all the 134 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 7: whistle blowing, they say that number is probably low, that 135 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 7: it's nine billion within just these fourteen programs, and then 136 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 7: there's all sorts of other programs where there's where there's 137 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 7: been a fraud that they've been trying to bring to 138 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 7: the administration. They've brought to the administration and again they've 139 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 7: been shut down. These are folks that are lifetime employees, 140 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 7: you know of DHS, people that want to do good, 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 7: that want to provide services, that want to be helpful, 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 7: and it's it's been really hard on them to you know, 143 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 7: essentially be shut down or were retaliate it well. 144 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: By the way, you know, here's a word to the wise. 145 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Any of you who are bosses who are out there, 146 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, managers of people, if you have people in 147 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: whatever entity it is, whether it's a for profit entity, 148 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: nonprofit entity, whatever you're trying to do, you know, one 149 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: of the one of the quickest ways to destroy an 150 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: organization is by finding ways to prevent people from just 151 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: doing their jobs. Most folks want to come and they 152 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: just want to do their job and they don't want 153 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: to have to deal with the monkey business. 154 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: Of some manager with an axe to grind. 155 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: You know, these folks, all they wanted to do was 156 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: serve the people of Minnesota and and do right and 157 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, discharge the trust that they've been left with. 158 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: And yet and yet they were being frustrated and prevented from. 159 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: Doing that job. 160 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, we'll come back at some point to this, 161 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: because we got Hakeem Jeffries. We're not gonna play right 162 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: now Landon, but Hakim Jeffries h called James Commer, Congressman 163 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: James Crmer Chairman James Commer a clown for wanting to 164 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: investigate the Minnesota Somali fraud. Comber responded to Jeffries, there 165 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: is the back and forth there at the end of 166 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: the day, these were Democrats and ministering programs that were 167 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: essentially created by Democrats. And they don't like the idea 168 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: that they are being investigated for malfeasance, for misappropriation of funds. 169 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: And guess what, Governor Waltz, Guess what, Congressman Jeffries. The 170 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: federal government, the Congress has every right and more importantly, 171 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: the responsibility to make sure that federal tax dollars weren't 172 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: being illegally shunted to a foreign nation, you know, illegally 173 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: funding terrorism. By the way, that's all lost in this. 174 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: When we return, guys, after the spots, we got Rachel Moon. 175 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking with her about anti Semitism. I'm 176 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: Andrew Langer. This is Tony Katz Today. 177 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: Well, welcome back everybody. 178 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: I am Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz today, so 179 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: glad I can join you. I thank you Wilford for 180 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: joining us here on the Tony Katz Radio Network. Joining 181 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: us right now is Rachel Muona. Had caused to meet 182 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: her last week. She is a social media content creator. 183 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: Really interesting stuff she's doing on social media. She is 184 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: a very strong advocate for Jewish Americans and Rachel, thank 185 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: you for coming on. 186 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 6: Hey, Andrew, thanks for having me. 187 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 2: It's good stuff. 188 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: You know. 189 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: You and I met last week, hung out a bit, 190 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: had lots lots and lots to talk about. But I 191 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: want to get your take on. 192 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: The different feedback out of Turning Point USA, but specifically 193 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: focusing on what Ben Shapiro had to say. I thought 194 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro did an amazing job at Turning Point. I 195 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts here and about this sort 196 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: of I don't even know why any of this is 197 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: a question anymore, but apparently we're having questions over anti 198 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: semitism in America. I thought this was settled law, but 199 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: apparently not. 200 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 6: You know, it is so I don't even want to 201 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 6: say shocking, because this has been going on for years, 202 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 6: and in some ways, I'm very happy to see that 203 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 6: the conversation is being had at places like Turning Point. 204 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 6: Years ago, I went on a podcast at Turning Point 205 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 6: to talk about the rise and anti Semitism and it 206 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 6: had only just kind of started to ramp up. And now, 207 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 6: you know, years later, post October seventh, we see what's 208 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 6: going on, especially here in the United States, and you know, 209 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 6: Ben Shapiro going on that stage and calling out the 210 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 6: really inappropriate and devisive rhetoric that's been going on. And 211 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 6: we can't even say that it's just the left anymore. 212 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 6: You know, we have the far right that is stealing 213 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 6: these old anti Semitic blood libels, and that has been 214 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 6: very shocking to me as someone who is a lifelong conservative. 215 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 6: I never ever thought that this would be something that 216 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 6: would be acceptable within the conservative movement meant and for 217 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 6: him to get on stage and call out his peers 218 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 6: on some of the things that they've been peddling or 219 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 6: shying away from calling out themselves. I thought he did 220 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 6: an amazing job. I thought he was very articulate. I 221 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 6: thought he did not hold back. And if you notice 222 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 6: any of the criticism that he's been getting has been 223 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 6: coming from these problematic people. 224 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that's that. That's that's very true. 225 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me because I was having a conversation 226 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: about sort of splits within the conservative movement with with 227 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: with an old friend of mine, long time friend of mine, 228 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: and and you know, we both were talking about who 229 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: benefits from this, and to me, there there to me, 230 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: there is, because. 231 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm a little bit older than you are. 232 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, this is again something that I thought was 233 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: long settled in these circles. We are well as we 234 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: are a long way away from the soft bigotry, the 235 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: soft anti semitism of the Richard Nixons and LBJs of 236 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: the world, right we you know, listen, we're not denying 237 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: that it happened. It certainly happened. But I thought, you know, 238 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: in the post Reagan world, we were well beyond that. 239 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: So me, I come back to the idea of the 240 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: question gets asked, who benefits, Well, you know there the 241 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Lord knows. The Russians have never been particularly friendly to Jews. 242 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: The Chinese certainly benefit from keeping us turned against each other. 243 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: And to me, there's no great mystery that so much 244 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: of this has come up in the wake of the 245 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: Russian War with Ukraine, and as America takes a much 246 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: stronger position towards China, they want to turn us more 247 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: against each other, don't they. 248 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 6: Absolutely? And anytime someone comes to me and they say, like, 249 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 6: how could this be happening? And people in America and 250 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 6: I say, look, we really need to zoom out, zoom out, 251 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 6: and pay attention to who's pulling the strings. Pay attention 252 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 6: to these foreign entities that are creating this. I know, 253 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 6: speaking personally, being someone whose job is on the Internet, 254 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 6: on social media, I know firsthand how foreign agents can 255 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 6: use bot farms against different accounts to silence you. It 256 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 6: happened to me many many times leading up to the election, 257 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 6: and I've seen it time and time again with anything 258 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 6: regarding Israel, anything regarding conservatism, And it's just it's very 259 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 6: obvious to me if you look into a lot of 260 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 6: these accounts and what people are saying online these they 261 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 6: are not even real people. So again zoom out and 262 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 6: pay it attention to who's doing this and think for 263 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 6: a second why. 264 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: Right, and and ask yourself the question who benefits? You know, 265 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm reminded of it was one of those things we 266 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: watched the Tea Party movement sort of get destroyed by 267 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: the grifter class coming in. 268 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 5: Right. 269 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: They saw this movement, they saw how vibrant it was, 270 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: so they moved in to try to destroy it through 271 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: a whole host of ways. And one of the grifters 272 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: who was involved in this, I know, right before January sixth, 273 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: right before the January sixth rally was taking place. It's 274 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: well documented this person got a massive influx of cryptocurrency 275 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: from outside the United States, and that sounds. 276 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: Like a conspiracy theory. But I'm not naming the name 277 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: right now. 278 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm happy to if you reach out to me privately, 279 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: happy to Unlike Cannas Owens, I'm happy to sort of 280 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: to sort of do this. 281 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: But you know, but that's just it. 282 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: You know, when we talk about foreign governments who want 283 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: to see us turn against each other, they are backing 284 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,119 Speaker 1: it with huge amounts of money, aren't. 285 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 6: They Absolutely and if you look at the last four years, 286 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 6: you can see how the Democratic Party that allowed a 287 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 6: lot of things to go unchecked, and we could talk 288 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 6: all day for the reasons why, how they and their 289 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 6: movement got completely demolished and exposed. And then the direct 290 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 6: response to that with the strengthening of the conservative movement, 291 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 6: tons of moderate Democrats leaving the Democratic Party and becoming 292 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 6: more conservative, and everybody kind of meeting in the middle 293 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 6: in this way of Okay, well, we align on our 294 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 6: basic beliefs of what we think that this country stands for, 295 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 6: and that is a very very very big threat to 296 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 6: our enemies. 297 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: No, without a doubt, I mean, God forbid, Americans actually 298 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: come together to solve problems. 299 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: You know, we act with we act with great resolve, right, 300 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's. 301 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: One of those things where in the wake of nine 302 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: to eleven, for instance, there was a moment where we 303 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: were all together and then within a couple of days, 304 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: because folks couldn't handle Americans actually coming together to face 305 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: a common foe, there were folks who wanted to turn 306 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: their attention, Oh, this is George Bush's fault. 307 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: What was George Bush doing? There's this, there's that you know. 308 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: Nine to eleven was an inside of all of those things, 309 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: which are all, by the way, related to the same people. 310 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Rachel. We're talking with Rachel Moon. 311 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: She is a social media content creator, strong advocate for 312 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: Jewish American values. Just turning our attention to the issue 313 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: of being a social media content creator, because the other 314 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: part of this is we've spent so much time and effort, 315 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: rightly so, making sure that the large social media platforms 316 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: don't shadow band conservative voices. Now we seem to be 317 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: doing it to ourselves. How have you been impacted by this? 318 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: I mean, are you one of those folks who was 319 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: caught in the wake of you know you YouTube devaluing 320 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: various platforms. I'm somebody who's my social media reach has 321 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: been very limited. I don't know if I'm shadow band 322 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: or just nobody likes me. Has it happened to you? 323 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 6: I yeah, absolutely, And I've had to kind of do 324 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 6: some deep dives on what's going on with social media. 325 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 6: I've been listening to a lot of podcasts with you know, 326 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 6: people at Meta and just various things to try to 327 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 6: figure out. Okay, I don't want to be someone that's 328 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 6: like just making it about me, Oh, I could to 329 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 6: be shadow band because I'm speaking out about October seventh, 330 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 6: or I must be shadow band because I'm pro Trump, 331 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 6: or I must so instead of that, let me see 332 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 6: what's really going on. And there's a couple of things. 333 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 6: One thing that social media isn't what it once was, right, 334 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 6: and we kind of knew that that was going to happen. 335 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 6: When people's attention spans went from a thirty second video 336 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 6: to a fifteen second video. You had to get them 337 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 6: within fifteen seconds. Now it's like if you don't have 338 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 6: that hook in two seconds, they're out. And so social 339 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 6: media started tracking these kind of metrics. How long does 340 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 6: someone stand someone's post, what kind of content are they 341 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 6: they into? 342 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: And really, you. 343 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 6: Know, a thousand lights on a post now it's one 344 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: hundred lights. 345 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Wow, Hey Rachel, Unfortunately we got we got to leave 346 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: it there, my friend. Thank you so very much. Listen, 347 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: happy hanak it to you. Look forward to having you 348 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: back at some point for having me. Take care, appreciate 349 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: it when we come back. 350 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: We got Ken Strang, he's a managing director of Americans 351 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: for Prosperity, so much want to come here on Tony 352 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: Katz today. 353 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Langer. 354 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: This is, of course Tony Katz today. 355 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: Well, welcome back everybody. 356 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Langer and for Tony Katz today on Tony 357 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: Katz Today. 358 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: Happy Festivus, So festive Us for the rest of us. 359 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: To all of you, Happy Honica, Merry Christmas. I'm here today, 360 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm here tomorrow. I always love sitting in for Tony here. 361 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: By the way, I was just out in India a 362 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago visiting a novartist facility. I want 363 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: to get somebody on there to talk about innovation and 364 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: the climate of innovation which relates to the issue of 365 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: affordability and joining us right now. 366 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: His name is Kent Strang. 367 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: He's a managing director at Americans for Prosperity. The website 368 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: is Americans for Prosperity dot org. You can catch him 369 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: on Newsmax every Thursday morning at nine thirty am. He's 370 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: graduated to those weekday segments. I'm still a weekend utility infielder, Kent. 371 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: I get called in on those random weekend segments where 372 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: they need somebody. But talking about affordability obviously a big, 373 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: big topic of discussion. The Vice President talked about it 374 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: at Turning point USA. Obviously on a lot of people's minds. 375 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's a made up word. 376 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a made up word. I think 377 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: it's important. But the Democrats are culpable. That was what 378 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: the President was trying to say, isn't it. 379 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: Trump was trying to say, and like, look, let's go 380 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: back in time, and Chuck Schumer is talking about how 381 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 4: he's going to have Democrats be laser focused on affordability, 382 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: but they have no business lecturing the American people on affordability. 383 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: Under Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer's leadership, they passed five 384 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 4: point five brillion dollars in new spending that cost forty 385 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: year high inflation, and that costs the average American family 386 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: eleven thousand, four hundred dollars more just to maintain their 387 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: current lifestyle. And if Schumer and his folks at their way, 388 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: Americans would be bracing for the biggest tax tike in 389 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 4: American history because they all opposed President Trump's extension of 390 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 4: the twenty seventeen tax cuts. And so I think they 391 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: were right not to not to fall into the trap 392 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: that this is a Republican unaffordability crisis. This is very 393 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 4: clearly a Democrat unaffordability crisis they created. 394 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, can let me ask you this because we were 395 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: talking about this in the first hour of the show. 396 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: As Joe Biden was leaving office. They they culled, they 397 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: ordered the killing of more than one hundred million chickens, 398 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: which led to poultry and egg prices to skyrocket. They 399 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: finally started coming down in the spring and summertime when 400 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: those those flocks began to began to come back. Have 401 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: the Democrats ever allowed market forces to actually bring down 402 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: the price of goods? They haven't. They've always stood in 403 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: the way of that, haven't. 404 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: They They do, and they think the government is there 405 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: to solve all of our problems, and they want the 406 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: economy defend it their will. And let's look at their 407 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: green new scam energy policies. Right, we see again, under 408 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 4: the Biden administration, electricity prices went up twenty percent, home 409 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: heating oil went up seventy percent. We all remember the 410 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 4: pain of five dollars gas under the Biden administration, and 411 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 4: with Republicans the President Trump are still climbing their way 412 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 4: out of those failures, not only from not only from 413 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 4: energy prices, but from their tax prices from their spending. 414 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: Everything they've done at the border they have to undo, 415 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 4: and it's taking a little bit of time to get 416 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 4: out of the whole of biydnomic right. 417 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it gets down to it in the same 418 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: way that you can chart the crime. 419 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: Statistics and the. 420 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: Urban areas that are run by Democrats, they have a 421 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: larger they have worse crime. 422 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just just the way it is. 423 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: You have pro criminal policies, you have anti gun policies, 424 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: it's going to lead to more crime in these areas. 425 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: The same thing can be said about states where things 426 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: like energy and gas prices are high. Gas prices are 427 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: higher in Democrat run states, aren't. 428 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: They Well, they certainly are. I mean, let's look at 429 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: where we are right now with gas prices. When we're 430 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: down to the national average of a gallon of gases 431 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: at two dollars and seventy nine cents. This is the 432 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 4: first time since May of twenty twenty one that national 433 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 4: average has been under three dollars. And to your exact point, 434 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: if you want to see what failed Democrat policies do, 435 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 4: look at California. What is their average right now? It's 436 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 4: four dollars and fifty one cents a gallon under the 437 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 4: failed policies of Gavin Newsom. I'll take that inexpensive gas 438 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 4: any day of the week over that. 439 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: No, without a doubt. I mean, these things matter, these policies. Mattery. 440 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Also, Hawaii is another prime in the Hawaii as an island, 441 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: but still Democratic run high prices there. You know Maryland 442 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: certainly when you had the gas tax rate hike. Here's 443 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: the thing that gets me right, Kent. And we're talking 444 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: with Ken Strang. He's the managing director of Americans for 445 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: Prosperity in Virginia. I know you talk about Chuck Schumer 446 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: in New York and Chuck Schumer and the Senate, but 447 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: in Virginia, during the twenty twenty five gubernatorial campaign, ban 448 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: Berger ran on this platform of pushing back against you know, 449 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: talking about affordability and essentially trying to blame the Virginian's 450 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: affordability crisis on Donald Trump and Republicans. And yet so 451 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: much of this is due to Democratic policies. 452 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 2: I'll add to what you said earlier. 453 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: You know, our colleagues, whether it's at sea, pack are 454 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity mercadis wherever CEI we know that regulatory 455 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: costs almost doubled in the four years of Joe Biden. 456 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: It went up to almost four trillion dollars annually. That 457 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: has an effect on affordability, doesn't it. 458 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 4: It certainly does, And I think it's really critical for 459 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 4: President Trump and the Republican Conference to take the affordability 460 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 4: stuff very seriously. And I think they need to do 461 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 4: two things. Number one is they need to talk about 462 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 4: what they have already done. They made the twenty seventeen 463 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 4: tax cuts permanent with the Working Family Tax Cuts or 464 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 4: the One Big Beautiful Bill, whatever we want to call it. 465 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: That doubled the standard deduction, which is going to make 466 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 4: people's taxes easier. It lowered energy costs, expanded energy production. 467 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: It delivered long term certainty for small businesses one hundred 468 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: percent of depreciation for equipment so businesses can reinvest, thrive, grow, 469 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 4: hire more people. It cut one and a half million 470 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 4: dollars in weights. But we can't just rest on our world. 471 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 4: They need to continue to go further to the regulatory point. 472 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 4: What Congress and President Trump should really be focused on 473 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: is permitting reform. 474 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: There is so. 475 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 4: Much red tape, there are so many rules. It takes 476 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: longer to get permits for projects than it those who 477 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: actually build the project, right, and so, and it's so 478 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: important not only for housing, it's important for energy transmission 479 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 4: lines and to deliver energy for Americans, but also it's 480 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 4: for the AI race that if we want to compete 481 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 4: with China and win the AI rates and be the 482 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 4: leaders of the next Internet, the next wheel, the next 483 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: industrial revolution, we need to be able to have permitting 484 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 4: reform to get those projects started. If we don't deal 485 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 4: with the regulatory state of the red tape or in trouble. 486 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, it's it's one of those things where 487 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: you know, I had a conversation. One of the issues 488 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: I've dealt with in the past is shipping, ship repair, 489 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: and ship building. And there's been a movement over the 490 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: course of decades to offshore America's shipbuilding. And there are 491 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: problems and we've got this, we got this Jones Act. 492 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: We can go back and forth about the logic of 493 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: the Jones Act, but the Jones Act was supposed to 494 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: protect American shipbuilding and American ship repair. I had a 495 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: conversation with somebody down near Newport News, Virginia, which is 496 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: one we're one of the still one of the last 497 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: remaining big shipbuilding plants is factories, is shipyards, and they 498 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: said the number one problem that they have is permitting. 499 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: You know, if you can't build new shipbuilding and ship 500 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: repair facilities in the United States because it takes decades 501 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: to get the permitting done, it puts America at a 502 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: fundamental disadvantage. You're right, a whole host of things. If 503 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: we want to make sure that America can grow leaps 504 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: and bounds. 505 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: On the area of AI, and we want to make. 506 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: Sure that America's electricity isn't siphoned off for this, the 507 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: only way you can deal with it is by building 508 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: more coal fire power, changing the permitting for nuclear power 509 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: so that maybe some of these data processing facilities, these 510 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: data centers can have you know, nuclear reactors on site. 511 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: This is what you're talking. 512 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 2: About, isn't it. 513 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 4: That's exactly what we're talking about, and it's across all 514 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: of our industry. 515 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: You were talking to shipbuilders. 516 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 4: I was in Louisiana a couple of weeks ago when 517 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: we were touring inland barges where they produced energy, and 518 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: we had a boat captain who has taken us inside 519 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: the Gulf of America and he showed us the facility 520 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 4: that was dead. It was it was gone and weeds 521 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: were growing up, and we said, hey, what happened to this? 522 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: And we did not prompt our boat captain he said, oh, 523 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: permitting killed this one. The government filled facilities and it's 524 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: a great example of like it. They could probably restart 525 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 4: it in a matter of days or months. I don't 526 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: know exactly how long, but it's like when permitting becomes 527 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 4: the problem, so you can't build anything. 528 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: Now. 529 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: Congress has been working on this. Just last week, the 530 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 4: House of Representatives pass what's called the Speed Act, so 531 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: they can have very specific timelines on these things, like 532 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: this is how long it's going to take to get 533 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 4: a permit, this is how long you have to review 534 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 4: all the legal challenges that can take place. Because of course, 535 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 4: we want it to be safe. We don't want to 536 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: destroy our environment or anything like that. We want projects 537 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 4: to be good and well thought out. But at the 538 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 4: same time we need that sort of certainty around how 539 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: long projects will take. Hopefully the Senate picks that up 540 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: when they get into twenty twenty six, but we need 541 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: permitting reform on a bunch of different fronts, whether it's 542 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: for shipbuilding, or whether it's for delivering energy for us 543 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 4: to be competitive. 544 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Jam before I let you go, because one of the 545 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: other great things that Americans for Prosperity has done, and 546 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: the website is Americans for Prosperity dot org. It's and 547 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: your Twitter handle can for America. Am I right? 548 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: That's right? 549 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, for America. 550 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: So let's talk about what they've done on the cafe standards, 551 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: a fuel economy standards, and making driving more affordable. Again, 552 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: it's not just gas prices, but the cost of cars 553 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: is going to start coming down, isn't it. 554 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 4: That's right. The President Biden set out a new standard 555 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: during his administration that was going to increase the number 556 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: of miles per gallon that new cars were required to do. 557 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: President and Trump came in and he rolled that back 558 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: because again President Biden wanted what he wanted to force 559 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 4: everybody into electric cars, and rather than letting the free 560 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: market choose the kind of cars we want to drive, 561 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 4: Biden and his administration wanted to force it. President Trump 562 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 4: administrations rolled that back, and that's going to save the 563 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: average American on a new car over a thousand dollars. 564 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: These are the kind of things to put money back 565 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: in Americans pockets that Republicans can continue to focus on, 566 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: and let's show the American people that these policies work, 567 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 4: they make life more affordable, and we move on from 568 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: the failures of Bidenautics. 569 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Hold on for Selja Kent because you never buy the 570 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: Here's I don't know how much you do. You do 571 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: news Max every Thursday morning? 572 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: You never do. 573 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how much you do radio. But here's 574 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: here's something you should know about radio. Should never do 575 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: math on the air. I'm about to I'm about to 576 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: go and do some math on the air. 577 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: Gas. You say, gas prices right now are two seventy 578 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: nine a gallon? That's right, all right, hold on for 579 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: a second. 580 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: So so so at two seventy nine a gallon, that 581 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: savings of one thousand dollars on the cost of a 582 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: car would right now buy. 583 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: You three hundred and fifty eight gallons of gas. 584 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: I'm here here. 585 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: You know that's almost a full year's worth of gas. 586 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: You beginning for free? I mean that's I mean these 587 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: we have to be putting these things in real world terms, 588 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: don't we. 589 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: That's right, And I think that's what's so important for conservatives. 590 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: The President to do right now, it's put this in 591 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: real terms. Let's talk about how tax cuts save people money. 592 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: Again. 593 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: If Democrats had their way, we would be facing the 594 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 4: biggest tax like in American history. The one big, beautiful 595 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 4: bill will save Americans over fifteen hundred dollars on average. 596 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 4: Policies like lower gas prices save Americans, Removing cafe standards 597 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: save Americans, unleashing American energy, we'll save Americans money. Let's 598 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: continue to tell that story so people people feel it 599 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 4: and we don't just have to talk to him about it. 600 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: All right, Well, Kent listen, thank you so very much. 601 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: As his his ax handle is Kent for America, Ken 602 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: Strang from Americans for Prosperity. 603 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so very much for joining us. 604 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having Merry Christmas. 605 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: And we'll talk a little bit more about affordability in 606 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: a moment. I'm Andrew Langer. 607 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today, by the way, talking with 608 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: Landing off the air about Tony and. 609 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm having a Christmas land and that Tony would be 610 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: proud of. 611 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 5: I'm not. 612 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm making making. 613 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: Two different cuts of beef for for making doing making 614 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: a try tip and doing a boneless rib roast. 615 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this. That's something something I love. 616 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he would, he would absolutely do that. I 617 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: don't know. 618 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: I got to talk to him. I don't know if 619 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: he's ever done on his E Drink Smoke show. I'm 620 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: not even sure we're allowed to talk about it, but 621 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: I will. I washed some bourbon. I know I've ever 622 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: heard about this, but that's where you essentially of you 623 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: steep some kind of flavorful fat. In this case, I 624 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: did a bacon a bacon bourbon, and I also did 625 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: a peanut butter bourbon based upon something that I'd seen 626 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: on it. 627 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: Both both of them were really good. That sounds awesome 628 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: about these things. 629 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: So anyway, I want to just stick a pin in 630 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: this right now, this issue of the economy and affordability. 631 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: Here is Kevin Hassett on the National Council of Economics. 632 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: Here he is on face the nation talking about the 633 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: terrificial let's play cut number twenty four. 634 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 8: I think that most of the tariffs that we have 635 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 8: passed us here have proven their metal. We've got still 636 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 8: high growth, which people said we couldn't if we had tariffs. 637 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 8: We have reduction in the deficit, reduction in the trade deficit. 638 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 8: Imports from China are the lowest they've been since China 639 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 8: entered the WTO. So there's a lot of success to 640 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 8: crow about in the tariff's face. But there are also 641 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 8: things that we're hearing when we talk to people like 642 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 8: trading partners and companies that trade a lot in the US. 643 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 8: There are also things that maybe could be adjusted. You 644 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 8: saw that we decided to exempt coffee, for example, because 645 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 8: we don't make a lot of coffee in the US. 646 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 8: And I think that if there's something that's not made 647 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 8: in the US at all, that there's an appetite and 648 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 8: Jamison Greer is leading the effort to study these matters. 649 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 8: There's an appetite to exempt things if they're really not 650 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 8: meant to be made in the US, because we get 651 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 8: end it there. 652 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, right, I mean, you know here 653 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: Steve Forbes talk about it. Not Steve Moore, but Steve Forbes. 654 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: The issue you know in flace gets caused by monetary policy. 655 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that's very complex. What 656 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: goes into it. 657 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: Now. 658 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: I'm someone who had predicted that the tariffs were not 659 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: going to really blunt our economic growth because at the 660 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: same time for me, you know the adage when your 661 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: hammer everything. 662 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 2: Looks like a nail. 663 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: I view things in terms of the issue of regulation 664 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: and regulatory cost. And so if the tariffs we're going 665 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: to quote unquote cost the American economy six hundred billion 666 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: dollars annually, well they would be offset by the idea 667 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: of not raising our regulatory costs by six billion dollars annually. 668 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: Right. 669 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: That's that's sort of a zero sum game there. I 670 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: had this conversation with Steve Moore about this a while ago, 671 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: the issue of how regulatory changes, and that's there's been 672 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: a regulatory posture just we're just talking about this with 673 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: with Kent. You know, the issue of off you if 674 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: you shrink the size and scope of regulations, or at 675 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: the very least you don't grow regulations, that produces economic benefit. 676 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: If you engage in permitting reform, it produces. 677 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: An economic benefit. 678 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: What we need to be striving for next is certainty. 679 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: This is the issue that we need to deal with. 680 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: So in the next hour, I speaking with certainty, we're going. 681 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: To be joined by shats, citizens against government. 682 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: Ways to talk about Medicare and medicaid and more. More Epstein,