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Speaker 1: Wow. I don't know if it's pronounced Year the Duke

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What I do know is that Steve Sock of Dunbarton

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Speaker 1: and Tobacco and Trust has an incredible palette and a

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Speaker 1: very weird sense of humor. It's eat, drink smoke. I'm

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy.

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Speaker 1: And this right here is the year of the Duke.

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Speaker 1: Now it's du que? Is that duke is a duque?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I did reach out to Steve to find out, and.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get an answer back before we recorded the show,

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Speaker 1: So blame him if I'm pronouncing it wrong. This right

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Speaker 1: here is a five by forty eight, which means it's

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Speaker 1: five inches long. Always makes fingers why laugh? And the

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Speaker 1: ring gauge is a forty eight. That's the diameter of

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Speaker 1: the cigar, or how thick it is around d again

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Speaker 1: with the laughter. That was a good one. Thank those

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Speaker 1: world class. So a sixty four ring gauge is a

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Speaker 1: full one inch around. So this is a short petit cigar.

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Speaker 1: This is the five inches the classic robusto a size

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Speaker 1: robusto U sokkah. So I was in Maryland last week

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Speaker 1: and I was a Capital Cigar Impathesda Capitol Cigar. Interesting

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Speaker 1: spot and enjoyed it quite a bit. And they carry

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Speaker 1: some Dunbarton and I got to have myself a Socca con,

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Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite smokes. I dig what

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Speaker 1: Dunbarton does. I liked what Steve did when he was

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Speaker 1: at drew A State. I consider the Feral Flying Pig

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Speaker 1: amongst my top five cigars. Ever, I can have one

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Speaker 1: anywhere at any time. Fingers the Feral Flying Pig.

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Speaker 3: Now, I have soccacn, Soccacan soccacn in my head right like,

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Speaker 3: but he changed because I'm a marketing genius.

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Speaker 1: Genius right there, and this has got the classic pigtail.

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Speaker 1: What makes this interesting is the the the collaboration or

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Speaker 1: is a Habano rosatto Ecuadorian rapper. So you would think

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Speaker 1: big spice, big punch, big hit, but it is Mexican

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Speaker 1: San Andreas in the binder, and the filler is Nica

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Speaker 1: Roguin and Pennsylvania broadleaf that's a lot happening, man, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of big that's a lot of very specific

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Speaker 1: is gorgeous, touch, touch of grit on the wrapper, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of oil on the wrapper, and it is

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Speaker 1: a gorgeous, gorgeous It's actually a modeled brown, but not

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Speaker 1: with blacks. Just there's a little hint of black like

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Speaker 2: Actually, you know what, I'm gonna take that back. It

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Speaker 1: It is much more of a leather brown here with

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful wrapper.

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Speaker 3: I would show my cigar, but I've got a band

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Speaker 3: aid on my finger for those that are watching us

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Speaker 3: on YouTube, and nobody needs to get a close.

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Speaker 1: Up of that.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you told anybody on the finger well,

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Speaker 3: they can see it, they can see it.

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Speaker 1: Nobody needs to hear about it.

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Speaker 3: Ea drink smoke on on the YouTube's But I'll.

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Speaker 1: Tell you, and I did do a cut on this

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Speaker 3: That's where I was just about to go, because usually

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Speaker 1: I was already in it with the cutter, and I

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Speaker 1: just decided to finish it. I wonder if Steve would

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Speaker 1: be okay with using a V cut on this, because

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Speaker 1: of the more you and worthy cigars that are out there.

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Speaker 1: I think that construction wise, everything has always been absolutely perfect,

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Speaker 1: but there's a he's He's really good at the marketing,

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Speaker 1: especially as he explains things. If you follow himlet's say,

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Speaker 3: Can we revisit what you just said about a V

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Speaker 3: cut on a forty eight ring gauge. Is that something

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't because at what moment am I having

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Speaker 3: I was expecting more of a pepper or spice hit,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't get that right away. It was more

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Speaker 1: It's starting to creep up on it. Yeah, what what

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Speaker 1: you're saying? Wow, I'm not there?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Was the richness? It wasn't a spice. Wow, it

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Speaker 1: was really rich off the front. There is a cedar

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Speaker 1: thing that's happening. Yep, for sure, but really really cheek

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Speaker 1: don't often get that. I happen to love that. I

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Speaker 1: sound really dumb. There is there is like a what

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Speaker 3: So like I said, when I first lit this, it

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Speaker 3: and I know it's a nitpicky, but again the cigar

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Speaker 3: band nice, beautiful, simple. I know it's ridiculous, but it's

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Speaker 3: And then second of all, even though it's you know,

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Speaker 1: Isn't it? Yeah? It does feel good, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Really that you know?

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Speaker 1: To give it that Asian flair because it's the year

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Speaker 1: of the Duque. Or is a duke named after Chris Duke?

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Speaker 1: Or is a duque who works there at a dunbart

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Speaker 1: We will get into that coming up. Also some fantastic

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Speaker 1: bourbon to try. Oh no way, I'm sorry Tennessee whiskey

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Speaker 1: fingers below. Are you looking for a freebie?

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Speaker 3: Who is it in this economy?

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Speaker 1: That was? It was well done, Thank you, well delivered.

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Speaker 1: Tee trick smoke come Tony Katz. That's America's favorite freebie

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Speaker 1: amateur drinker fingers, molloy. The people over there eat this,

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Speaker 1: not that I want you. Oh excuse me, I got

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Speaker 1: and a freebie. Eight chain restaurants for the best Birthday freebies.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever gone to a restaurant for the birthday

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Speaker 1: freebie after the age of twelve? Yes, Okay, you're a

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Speaker 1: You're a grown man, act like it. I'm a grown man,

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Speaker 1: grown man, what are you going to freebies for?

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Speaker 3: Because it's free and it's tasty. Because every once we

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Speaker 3: sometimes mazzarella sticks should be on the house.

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Speaker 1: You got my vote. These are eight places where you

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Speaker 1: can get something for free on your birthday, starting with

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Speaker 1: Red Robin. By the way, there is an amazing story.

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Speaker 1: Oh this wasn't in the Wall Street Journal. This was

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Speaker 1: a story about how Red Robin was dominating and how

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Speaker 2: And they said, you know what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get rid of bus boys. So they got

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Speaker 1: rid of bus boys, and what happened. It took longer

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Speaker 1: don't take care of the customer first, nothing else can happen.

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Speaker 1: And I would love to hear if someone from Red

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Speaker 1: Robin catches this show and then could say like, hey,

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Speaker 1: here's really what went on, or somebody knows it a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. I forget where I read it. It

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Speaker 1: was an amazing piece that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I mean not just the fact that you're not turning

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Speaker 3: and there's a half eaten burger just sitting there for

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Speaker 3: twenty five minutes, that's all right now, it grosses you out,

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Speaker 3: especially when you're spending sixteen seventeen dollars on a hamburger

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Speaker 1: I think Red Robin has gotten a little pricey. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that standard these days true.

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Speaker 2: But here are the deals you sign up for.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe they're app You get a free

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Speaker 1: appetiser with your first purchase. Then on your birthday you

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Speaker 1: got a free birthday milkshake. You don't even have to

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Speaker 1: make a purchase. But if you spend just ten dollars

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Speaker 1: throughout the year. You got a free birthday burger, so

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Speaker 1: you can go on your birthday, get a burger, get

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, jeez, what's your birthday like? If you can't

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm looking for in this world.

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Speaker 3: See but right there you criticize me, saying fingers, you're

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Speaker 3: your birthday. Red Robin is saying, listen, happy birthday, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Here's a burger and a milkshake, and if you request it,

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Speaker 1: No, that's only that's only McDonald's. And this is the

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Speaker 1: season we are officially. Can I get a little bit

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Speaker 1: of applause? We're in Shaymrock Shake season. This is the

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Speaker 1: the Shamrock Shake. I met my first wife drinking at

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Speaker 1: Please Starbucks, you have to be a Starbucks Rewards member

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 3: Wow, So you have to have your birthday the exact

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Speaker 1: Everybody's sharing everything the idea. Listen, we are the last

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Speaker 1: I don't want Starbucks knowing my birthday. That's it's an

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Speaker 1: American Starbucks. Are them knowing your birthday? You know what? Both,

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Speaker 1: that's what we thought. We guys. We know Starbucks is

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Speaker 2: We don't Firehouse Subs.

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Speaker 1: You like the Firehouse Subs, don't you? I do like

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Speaker 2: You like the Penn Station more than the Firehouse.

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Speaker 3: I like Penn Station. I like Jersey Mice. It's it's

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Speaker 3: really really hard to screw up a sandwich.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't believe that to be true. Wrong bread,

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Speaker 1: wrong condiments, not enough liquid to make the bread meat race.

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Speaker 3: Here, come together, I'm talking about a sandwich company. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you can screw up a sandwich, but I don't understand

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Speaker 3: They get a littleo big for the bridges. Do you

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Speaker 3: like Quizzos? I'm looking at you, Quiznos. I really like

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Speaker 3: Quiznos back in two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, they were the pets dot Com of sandwiches.

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Speaker 1: Firehouse free medium sub to members on their birthday. You

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Speaker 1: redemption window. What help, I'm out, Firehouse. Let it all

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Speaker 1: burn down. Redemption windows. Redemption windows not doing any work.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about.

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Speaker 3: By the way, that's what we're going to call people's

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Speaker 3: birthdays from now on here on, Eat, drink, smoke happy.

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Speaker 3: Redemption window way, way way too much work right there?

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Speaker 1: You lost me. Applebee's and I know you do love

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Speaker 1: the app Bees. You come in for a free birthday

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Speaker 1: treat a dessert on your birthday. If you're a member

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Speaker 1: of Club Applebee's, you will get a free treat and

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Speaker 1: a singing serenade from servers, I am also out.

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Speaker 3: Nope, can you read that last sentence again? Including Club

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Speaker 1: Who signed up for these clubs?

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Speaker 2: In advats, we'll get a free treats and a singing.

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Speaker 1: Serenade from the servers.

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Speaker 3: Hit it, it's Club Applebees.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, I thought you were gonna sing you were

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Speaker 1: doing the club Yeah, I was going doing the whole

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Speaker 3: But there is nothing worse. Ye, Well, there are plenty

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Speaker 3: weird uh birthday song at chain restaurants because they can't

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Speaker 3: actually sing happy Birthday. So you have like random servers

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Speaker 3: going happy, Happy, Happy birthday. It's your special day, Happy

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Speaker 3: happy birthday. It's your redemption window from that well oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: that old ditty redemption windows Pad.

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Speaker 1: Classic timeless, originally sung by Bing Crosby.

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Speaker 3: See I thought you were gonna go with Philip Glass.

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Speaker 3: Oh you can't steal your jokes. Now here's what I

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Speaker 3: did not know about it all McDonald's. What if you

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Speaker 1: As you have suggested many times, numerous times that with

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Speaker 1: the McDonald's app, all things are possible. Fingers got the

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Speaker 1: McDonald's app got him a point off his mortgage. So true.

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Speaker 1: McDonald's Rewards members get a free medium fry on their birthday,

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Speaker 1: no purchase required. That ladies and gentlemen free McDonald's fries.

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Speaker 1: And with the app you get twenty percent off all

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 1: You will get thirty percent off from the Crutchfield Catalog.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what that is, and have off

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Speaker 3: Montgomery Ward Montgomery Ward.

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Speaker 1: That takes me back. Wow?

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Speaker 3: Oh are you kidding? This show is a time machine from.

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Speaker 1: The Dark Catalog. Does no one else remember dak now?

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm one of the people who fell for that crab.

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Speaker 1: Oh you don't really remember the Dark Catalog? I have

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Speaker 1: no Was this an East Coast thing? Maybe? But mistakes

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Speaker 2: Eat Drink Smoke It is your cigar Bourbon Foudy extravaganza.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That's fingers from what you find everything

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Speaker 1: we do at Eat Drink Smoke show dot com. This

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Speaker 1: is the Year of the Duke or is it Duke?

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. From Dunbart and Tobacco in Trust

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Speaker 1: This five by forty eight Ecuadorian Habano Risotto rapper. You've

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Speaker 1: that's Nica Roguin and Pennsylvania broad leaf. There is a

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Speaker 1: it is, and it's been again. I know we've been

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Speaker 1: harping on this lately, but very low maintenance. Been able

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Speaker 1: we're cheering a little mateen. You're correct, that's true.

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Speaker 3: I just noticed recently saying in the last six months

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Speaker 3: some of those things are clearly not the follow to

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Speaker 3: the manufacturer. These things just happen sometimes. But this has

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Speaker 3: been wonderfully low maintenance for me. The wood is still there,

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Speaker 3: that a little hint of chocolate, some black pepper, and

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Speaker 3: This is a nice smoke.

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Speaker 1: So the I was looking at some of the things

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Speaker 1: Trust does the red meat lovers and is this does

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Speaker 1: it have that kind of feeling to it? And it does.

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Speaker 1: I mean that does have Nicaraguan and it does have

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Speaker 2: But I must say I've.

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Speaker 1: Seen people talk about getting a niece off this cigar,

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Speaker 1: getting raisin off this cigar and not a niece.

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Speaker 2: Now, raisin is an interesting way to.

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Speaker 1: Discuss certain levels of sweetness, and I don't since I'm

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Speaker 1: What I will say is is that if there was

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Speaker 2: But I don't get any spice hit.

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Speaker 1: I don't really feel pepper, really, no man, And I

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Speaker 2: I don't feel it.

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Speaker 1: Now. When you've got a five by forty eight, the

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Speaker 1: long forty eight ring gauge?

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Speaker 2: What did you eat today? What did you drink today?

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Speaker 2: What is the weather?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: You put that in your notebook, any notebook will do.

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Speaker 1: Just make it yours and then put it on the

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Speaker 1: and review later on in the years that go by.

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Speaker 2: What did you eat today?

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Speaker 1: What do you drink today? What is the weather that

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Speaker 1: It's first, third, second, third, final, third. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if it's a five inch cigar or Churchill, doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: when you try that cigar a month from now, six

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Speaker 1: box of fourteen? Okay? And this cigar is an MSRP

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Speaker 3: Boy, that's I was hoping you were going to say

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Speaker 1: Seventeen because it's a five by forty eight, that's why

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Speaker 1: answer the question, yes, it is in my humanor Okay,

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Speaker 1: so far, now I have a lot more of the

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Speaker 2: Of a few months to really know where you're at

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Speaker 1: And this is the kind of thing. It's unique. I

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Speaker 1: freaking digging the char man. I did not know that

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Speaker 1: that was my thing. I like coffee, I like richness,

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Speaker 1: The char thing is working for me in a very

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Steve would agree or disagree about

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Speaker 1: the red Meat Lovers. It does what it throws me

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Speaker 2: I like this cigar and a box and once in

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Speaker 1: Sure. Now, could I do this weekly right now? Based

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Speaker 3: I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. This has nothing

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Speaker 2: Jeez, it makes you say.

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Speaker 3: It has everything to do with this is a value conversation,

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Speaker 3: the size of the gar. I'd have to think about it,

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Speaker 3: and I have to get through the rest of the

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Speaker 3: smoke before I would make a final decision on it.

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Speaker 1: But you are, and I can appreciate if it's not

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Speaker 1: right what it's not even a question of Hey, I

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Speaker 1: can appreciate what it is, but I can also appreciate

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Speaker 1: it's not mine right this. I don't know why this works? Week?

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you?

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Speaker 1: I was in Florida January. In Florida in January and

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Speaker 1: I was in a burn rocky hotel's place burned down

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Speaker 1: in Naples, and they had the Padrone fifty year. I

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Speaker 1: love the fifty year, not the Jose Padernes, not the

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Speaker 1: eighty years or other thing. The Padrone fifty year is

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Speaker 1: to me everything. And they had some and I was

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Speaker 1: gonna get a cup, and I said, do you have

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Speaker 1: a box? And the guy looked at me like I

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Speaker 1: had nine heads. He goes, you want you want a box?

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Speaker 1: Like if there's a box discount, I want a box. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's not a cheap cigar. I took out a second mortgage.

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Speaker 2: I flew home with.

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Speaker 1: A box of fifty of the fifty year. Oh go

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Speaker 1: look in there. They're gorgeous and it's there's a natural

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Speaker 1: and there's a maduro, both of them. I all day

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Speaker 1: if I could make the if I had, you know,

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Speaker 1: that kind of money me I'm in radio, I would

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Speaker 1: smoke that cigar every day. It would be the only

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Speaker 1: thing I smoked. We reviewed that didn't Oh, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you absolutely have.

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Speaker 2: I don't know I can smoke this every day, but

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Speaker 2: I am absolutely digging the daylights out of it.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: The wood mixed with the char really interesting.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I am not disagreeing with you on any of your points.

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Speaker 3: It's just when you start getting to eighteen seventeen, eighteen

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Speaker 3: ninety dollars yet, you know, I have to think about

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Speaker 3: it a little bit more. But you know, before you

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Speaker 3: asked me that, I started talking about how wonderful the

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Speaker 3: smoking experience has been so far, and it feels like

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Speaker 3: it's getting more difficult sometimes to be able to find

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Speaker 3: stick that so that are a little maintenance. So maybe

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Speaker 3: I could talk myself into this.

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Speaker 1: You now, you have brought this up more than once.

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Speaker 1: You brought up the band, which I think is just

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Speaker 1: just funny how bitter and angry you are. But you've

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Speaker 1: brought up more than once the maintenance thing. Are you

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Speaker 1: finding that your humid door is letting you down? Are

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Speaker 1: you finding that cigars you think they've been isshumatic?

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Speaker 3: I really can't say when it comes to my humid or,

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Speaker 3: because I've had one cigar out of my humid or

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Speaker 3: in the last three months because of the weather.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I just have not, oh right, been wanting to go

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Speaker 3: outside in twenty degree weather and smoke a cigar. I've

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Speaker 3: just noticed from whether I'm going to lounges or you know,

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Speaker 3: someone hands me a cigar and I have one, there's

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Speaker 3: been a lot of you know, having to relight it

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Speaker 3: and I don't. I'm not one you've seen me. I

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Speaker 3: smoke way too quickly. It's I don't put my cigar

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Speaker 3: down for ten minutes and then pick it up and

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Speaker 3: get upset that it's that's not uh not still lit.

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Speaker 3: So and a lot of plug plugging issues. Uh so

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Speaker 3: lately that's been a thing for me.

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Speaker 1: I can appreciate it. If listen if if the if

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Speaker 1: the answer is I can't. I I just don't want

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Speaker 1: to spend seventeen dollars. It's a fine answer, but you're

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Speaker 1: you're right if if you can spend a little bit

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Speaker 1: but know that you're going to have more quality time

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Speaker 1: with the cigar, let's work with it. Now. You've got

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Speaker 1: to ask yourself where your value is in the flavor

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Speaker 1: or in the experience?

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Speaker 3: Right, that's a which can make this a yes?

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Speaker 1: As that by the way, that's a that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Where is the value? This, Fingers Maloy is a stupid story.

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Speaker 1: You'll have to be more specific. Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: That's Fingers Meloy. Find everything we do at e Drink

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Speaker 1: Smoke Show dot com. And don't forget our books. Let's

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Speaker 1: Go Bourbon and Let's Go Bbq available at Amazon dot com.

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Speaker 1: Let's Go Bourbon, the Bourbon Reader You've always needed and

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Speaker 3: Both of those books have been reviewed online and have

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Speaker 3: been at quote. The review has been not a stupid

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Speaker 3: story for both of them.

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Speaker 2: Not stupid story over there at Tom'sguide dot com.

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Speaker 1: This was the headline. And sometimes you realize that these

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Speaker 1: these websites that only we talk about.

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Speaker 2: How are they making any money? This must all be AI.

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Speaker 1: This can't be. Someone actually wrote this can't be. I

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Speaker 1: have no idea.

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Speaker 3: What Listen, you and I have talked previously, have I

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Speaker 3: about how I've been having problems with sleep lately?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: And whenever I need sleep advice, I go to Tom's

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Speaker 3: guide because Tom is an excellent sleeper.

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Speaker 2: It's the same time from MySpace.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had a lot of time on his hands,

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Speaker 3: he takes lots of naps.

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Speaker 1: Here's the headline. I swear to you stop waking up

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Speaker 1: at three am. I asked five doctors for their best

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Speaker 1: sleep hygiene tips, and hear what they Here's what they said,

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Speaker 1: what sleep hygiene? Stop waking up at three am? Do

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Speaker 1: they mean? Like?

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Speaker 2: What if you have to go to work?

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Speaker 1: Like? What if you have to get up at three

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Speaker 1: am to go to work?

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Speaker 3: Now, I think what they're saying is you wake up

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the night and you can't sleep.

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, that makes sense sense. This woman claims that

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Speaker 1: she has cut through the clutter and track down the experts.

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Speaker 1: But there's a catch.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're about to share. None of them are quick fixes.

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Speaker 3: Oh, are we even allowed to share this on the air?

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Speaker 1: I think we are. You want to look around, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't let the mattress people know. Here the key takeaway

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Speaker 1: step one. Lots of Beta.

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Speaker 3: Drill Oh talk about making the complex simple.

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Speaker 2: Right, and they say the key is to wash it

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Speaker 2: down with niquil.

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Speaker 1: At this moment, our lawyers would like to remind you

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00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: that we are not medical professionals and you should not

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Speaker 1: take medical advice from Eat Drink Smoke nor anybody associated

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Speaker 1: with Eat Drink Smoke. We're a silly show that talks

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00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: about cigars, bourbon and lifestyle and we like to enjoy

556
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Speaker 1: ourselves with a little bit of ran the humor. Eat

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Speaker 1: Drink Smoke is not for medical diagnoses. Please check with

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Speaker 1: your doctor, pharmacist, or Google, because Google really understands how

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Speaker 1: to take care of you.

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Speaker 3: And you know how he's serious. You know how you

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Speaker 3: can tell We get all of our medical advice from

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Speaker 3: Tom's guide.

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Speaker 1: We sure do, so.

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Speaker 2: Here are the takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Go to bed at the same time every night because

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Speaker 1: your body learns when it's time to sleep. You do

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Speaker 1: this right. No, you're in bed every night seven to

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Speaker 1: fifteen pm. I wish that were the case, but No.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, as you know, I get up at two am

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Speaker 3: every morning for one of the eighteen gigs I have.

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Speaker 3: I'm exaggerating, but I do get up at four thirty

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Speaker 3: in the morning. You are an early riser as well,

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Speaker 3: because I have.

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Speaker 2: A morning radio show that is accurato.

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Speaker 3: So unfortunately, I don't know if you do this, but

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Speaker 3: I've gotten accustomed to getting up early, out the work

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Speaker 3: for the day and then getting home and I can't

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Speaker 3: help myself. I take a nap, which I do not.

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Speaker 3: I used to meditate, and that would get you used

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Speaker 3: to the transal meditation, yes, yes, and you're a believer, yes,

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Speaker 3: And it used to get me through. And then I

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Speaker 3: got into this awful habit of taking a nap which, oh,

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Speaker 3: fifteen twenty minutes, I'll feel great, and next thing you know,

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Speaker 3: I look and it's two and a half hours.

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Speaker 1: So what it walks us through? The TM? The well,

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Speaker 1: it's transcendental.

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Speaker 3: So the TM it's tough because to do true TM

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Speaker 3: you have to get with their people.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yes, and go through a series of training. And I

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Speaker 3: know that the TM people right now are going to

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Speaker 3: be screaming at the radio.

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Speaker 1: Uh. When I explained it, But is that true. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they give you.

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Speaker 3: A mantra, a word that you repeat over and over

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Speaker 3: and again, and it helps clear your head because you're

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Speaker 3: focusing on that world word and that one word alone,

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Speaker 3: and it will help push all of the outside Is

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Speaker 3: this a known word? Is this a word that exists?

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Speaker 1: Souage? Here's the deal. It could.

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Speaker 3: It's a gibberish nonsense word. But you can't give it

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Speaker 3: to your you know, you can't. Technically, you're not supposed

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Speaker 3: to get it yourself because you'll relate to how you

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Speaker 3: got that word other than the way the TM people

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Speaker 3: do it, which is they assign you so your your

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Speaker 3: whole thing. And I know people are going to be

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Speaker 3: screaming right now because uh, you know, the TM people

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Speaker 3: are gonna be like.

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Speaker 1: That's not exactly the way it is.

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Speaker 3: But basically, you don't want to associate that word with

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Speaker 3: anything because that can start to bring outside worldly thoughts.

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Speaker 1: In one second, the lawyers will eatdrink smoke. Want you

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Speaker 1: to know that we know absolutely nothing about transcendental meditation.

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Speaker 1: Everything fingers from Away is said is probably made up

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Speaker 1: from a fever dream for not going to bed at

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Speaker 1: the same time every single night. Please do not pay

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Speaker 1: any attention to what we're talking about regarding transcendental meditation.

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Speaker 1: This is just fingers with some ideas about how you

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Speaker 1: might be able to better relax your minds. We're not

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Speaker 1: trying to insult anybody. Please don't sue us. We don't

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Speaker 1: have money. We're podcasters, so anyway, Tama, we are not

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan style podcasters. We're the other podcasters, thank you,

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Speaker 1: or weekend radio hosts who happened to offer the radio

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Speaker 1: show in podcast form after it hits a radio station

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Speaker 1: near you. The Eat, Drink, Smoke lawyers would like for

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Speaker 1: me to apologize for calling us a podcast and not

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Speaker 1: a radio show. Clearly, we are a radio show first

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Speaker 1: that is also available as a podcast. We would hate

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Speaker 1: for anyone to think that we would think of ourselves

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Speaker 1: as lowly podcasters, because all those people are losers.

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Speaker 2: The lawyers would.

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Speaker 1: Eaturing them done. I think I've done with the gig.

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Speaker 1: I was really hoping.

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Speaker 3: I was really hoping you were going to throw in

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Speaker 3: a patent pending for no reason whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: But you found that it worked. Yes, I found that

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Speaker 1: it worked for me.

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Speaker 3: But then I stopped because I decided to take a

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Speaker 3: nap and now I'm in this vicious cycle where I

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Speaker 3: come home from work, take a two hour nap, and

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Speaker 3: then I'm up till midnight and then have to be

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Speaker 3: up at four thirty in the morning. So basically what

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Speaker 3: I do is I take two naps every day, which

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Speaker 3: is exactly the opposite of the advice that Tom's Guide

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Speaker 3: gives us.

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Speaker 1: Healthy man, that is not healthy.

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Speaker 3: And you look, and I know people look at me

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Speaker 3: if you're watching us right now on YouTube, and they're

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Speaker 3: saying to themselves, he looks like he's in picture perfect health.

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Speaker 1: How is this possible? Can we talk about your mullet?

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with my mullet? You're envisioning me right now?

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Speaker 3: You're guiding a white stallion on a beach.

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Speaker 2: You God, hold, I just gotta get that image out

654
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Speaker 2: of my head.

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Speaker 1: Try some TM.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you uh you you chose the mullet.

657
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Speaker 3: No, the mullet chose me, right, Yes, exactly.

658
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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to grow out the back of my

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Speaker 3: uh my hair for a long time because I've never

661
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Speaker 3: had long hair. At one point, Tony, you had you

662
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Speaker 3: had it down, dude, that the belt waist. Wow, not see,

663
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Speaker 3: I've never had that my hair has thinned considerably, so

664
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Speaker 3: now my hair I can actually grow it long instead

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Speaker 3: of but you still have like the solid hairline. Oh yeah,

666
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Speaker 3: it's just thinned before. You know, twenty thirty years ago,

667
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Speaker 3: if I tried to grow long hair, it would turn

668
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Speaker 3: into an afro. It would croll right up, especially in

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Speaker 3: this humidity.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you I do a lot of TV

671
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Speaker 1: stuff and a lot of video stuff, and lately it's

672
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Speaker 1: all about up up. Look at the hairline, dude, I

673
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Speaker 1: go bald. I could care less. I know. It doesn't

674
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Speaker 1: mean it doesn't move me. I don't think about it.

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Speaker 1: And when I look at it, like yeah, it's it

676
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: is a little higher than it used to be. I

677
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Speaker 1: still have all my hair.

678
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Speaker 2: Fine, go bald, and go bald.

679
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Speaker 1: What do you want me to do? Get upset by it?

680
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Speaker 1: And that's that's what the trolls are like, Oh, that's

681
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Speaker 1: the what's what we're gonna mock him? Good lord? Yeah,

682
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Speaker 1: I don't really care about that sort of thing. You know.

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Speaker 3: I may come in here next week and I'll shave

684
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Speaker 3: my head and I'll be completely bald, or I'll have

685
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Speaker 3: a mohawk right now for the first time in thirty

686
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Speaker 3: five years, it's Mullettown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about I don't

688
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Speaker 1: know how I feel about my towns.

689
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Speaker 3: Just like a like a shampoo commercial.

690
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just trying to let it.

691
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Speaker 1: He's trying to like throw his hair back like he's

692
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Speaker 1: a he's a nineteen year old onngenue trying to impress

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Speaker 1: the college quarterback.

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695
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696
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Speaker 3: hair back like I'm.

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Speaker 1: So there. I was over the weekend and I was

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Speaker 1: hosting an event for a few hundred people, and I

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Speaker 1: was doing a presentation. And in the presentation, I incorporate

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Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of bourbon bourbon for everybody. And the

731
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Speaker 1: people who supply me the bourbon, Mike and Jim, they

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Speaker 1: they said, hey, we got something for you for your table.

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Speaker 2: And walks over, walks over a box.

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 1: I got it right here, I got walks over with

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Speaker 1: a box. Nice sniss. Is the Jack Daniel Sinatra te

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Speaker 1: drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's America's favorite amateur drinker,

738
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Speaker 1: fingers maloy. And yes, it's a it's a lovely, lovely

739
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Speaker 1: box in the interior with the little book and the

740
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Speaker 1: story of Sinatra, and then the place for the bourbon.

741
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: It's a one liter bottle. Ladies and gentlemen coming in

742
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Speaker 1: at ninety proof, no applause, But it is the Sinatra. So,

743
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Speaker 1: oh my God, he makes the exception. Luck be lady,

744
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Speaker 1: two nights shut chat, shut cha, Sammy, bring the car around,

745
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Speaker 1: which I'm pretty sure God said, I'm just going to

746
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: say that right there. Uh. The Sinatra is like for

747
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: some people the Holy Grail. There is a real, real

748
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: love of what this is. And this isn't bourbon, of course,

749
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: this is Tennessee whiskey because it is Jack Daniels eighty

750
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: percent corn, eight percent rye twelve percent malted barley are

751
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: just just say, twelve percent barley aged five to seven years.

752
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: And there's a whole style in which how they do

753
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: the barrel.

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00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: They kind of cut these grooves into the middle of

755
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: the barrel and then you know after I think it's

756
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: after the char and so you have different types of

757
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: wood hitting the juice right here. But it is it

758
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: is the rarer fined. The Jack Daniel sinatra is one

759
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: of the rarer things. And and it's it is this.

760
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean that is just a deep, a deeper orange

761
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: right there. It's almost apple juice color. Is where we

762
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: are with this. And what's weird is, you know, normally

763
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Speaker 1: Jack Daniels, is that banana knows right, that banana flavor.

764
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: It's it's so outrageously distinctive, but it's I don't get

765
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Speaker 1: it from this. So it's a little breadier, it's a

766
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Speaker 1: little richer, a little a little fuller, a little more.

767
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Speaker 1: It's a little more cake for me than it is

768
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: more fruit banana. Okay, I guess is the way to

769
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: put some the banana is there for me, but it's fainter. Also,

770
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: you get some oak, a little bit faint oak, and

771
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Speaker 1: for me vanilla.

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00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, a touch of vanilla, touch of vanilla. By the way,

773
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Speaker 2: this groove idea.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to get yourself a bottle of

775
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Speaker 1: Jack daniel sinatchra, we'll go over cost in a minute.

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Speaker 1: According to the people at the Bourbon culture dot com,

777
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Speaker 1: the same barrel process is used on Cooper's craft, the

778
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Speaker 1: one hundred proof, and we have had that bourbon before

779
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Speaker 1: because it's made by Old Forrestore, which is Brown Foreman,

780
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Speaker 1: same group of people as Jack Daniels. But it's the

781
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: nose does not overwhelm. No, it's flavorful, but it doesn't

782
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Speaker 1: have any particular punch to it. I can't say that

783
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting a great bit of oak on it. I

784
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: could argue there's a little bit of a citrus kind

785
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Speaker 1: of kind of movement going on there, but that's that

786
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Speaker 1: is really it.

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to worry that I'm getting the cold that

788
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Speaker 3: you had a couple of weeks ago.

789
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Speaker 1: You're not picking things up.

790
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Speaker 3: No, I'm starting to get a little stuffed up. I

791
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: I to the point where it makes me want to sneeze.

792
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: But I can still pick things up, but it's weird

793
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: that banana hits me first. But I don't know if

794
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Speaker 3: it's just because I've got Jack Daniels on the brain,

795
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: and yeah, you know this is all just psychological. But

796
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Speaker 3: once you get in there, it's the first hint is banana.

797
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Speaker 3: But it's not nearly as strong as what I would

798
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Speaker 3: expect from Jack Daniels.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's the the it's it's it's more cake.

800
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Speaker 1: There's more of a citrus right going on, But you

801
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Speaker 1: know what it's it's enough a sniff and fingers from Oy?

802
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Speaker 1: Are you ready for this?

803
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Speaker 3: I've been ready for well, for Sinatra. I've been ready

804
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Speaker 3: for this all my life.

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Speaker 1: The Jack Daniels Sinatra right here, the Sinatra select Bold smooth,

806
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Speaker 1: Classic Tennessee whiskey. Fingers from Oy is doing what's known

807
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: as the Kentucky chew, moving the juice around the palette,

808
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: really trying to get a feel for it. I'm a

809
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Speaker 1: believer in the two SIPs methodology. The first up to

810
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Speaker 1: set the taste buds, the second tip to really get

811
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Speaker 1: an idea of the flavors. What say you, fingers, Well,

812
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: there's definitely I would say what that banana as if

813
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: you happen to be Inhaling as you take it. Uh,

814
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: you know the taste, Uh, you'll get that, but there's

815
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Speaker 1: no real banana flavor on the palate. It's a i'd

816
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: say a little bit of baking spice. Uh, there's some oak,

817
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: maybe some cherry. Uh.

818
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Speaker 3: It's yes, it's very good. It's it's it's it's very good.

819
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Speaker 3: And uh I'm going back and forth. Maybe a little

820
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: bit of brown sugar.

821
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're you're giving the sweet a name. Yeah,

822
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Speaker 1: all right, I'm going in, going in. He's the Sinatra

823
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Speaker 1: from Jack Daniels to Your Health, To your Health.

824
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Speaker 3: He's going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what

825
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 3: we like to call the sagon a swish. Maybe some

826
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Speaker 3: cinnamon on the finished Sinatra swish. Ah, the sinatra swish

827
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Speaker 3: there is.

828
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Speaker 1: I'm going back.

829
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Speaker 3: I'll good for you once again, going in and he's

830
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 3: doing the Memphis munch. I had a rat pack row

831
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: ninety proof, huh ninety nice little bit of sting on

832
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Speaker 3: the tongue.

833
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it plays bigger than ninety I do.

834
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Speaker 1: Uh. I think you're right about are you right about cherry?

835
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Speaker 1: You might be it's it's a it's a big fruit.

836
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of depth to the to the fruit.

837
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Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's going on there. It's it has

838
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of spice and that that certainly stays

839
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Speaker 1: so the middle tongue going back U in only now

840
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: do I get any kind of warmth in the chest?

841
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: There there is a sweetness that's kind of.

842
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Speaker 1: Like a that's not dark chocolate, that's not chocolate. Is

843
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: that chocolate?

844
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: There are?

845
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: There are a couple of different layers of sweetness that

846
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: are going on. I'm wondering, is that that's not nutty either?

847
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: And you do you do get a little bit of

848
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: vanilla in there? There is I think a little bit

849
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: of that kind of working its way through. It's got

850
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of mouthfield to it, a little bit

851
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: of richness in the cheek. Did you get any cinnamon?

852
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Unfinished it all? No? No, no, no, no, you must

853
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: have a problem. Probably it could be you. It probably

854
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: it could probably be you my issue. Because I've had

855
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Speaker 1: this snatcher before. I appreciate what Jack has done here.

856
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Fingers moy, Is this in your liquor cabinet? For one

857
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five dollars now, absolutely not. Now it's

858
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: a leader, not a seven fifty. No. Yeah. So I

859
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: like what they've done here, and it is a a

860
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: unique presentation, but man, is it not my speed? It

861
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: has never been my speed. And when they brought it

862
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: to me for the event, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna try,

863
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: of course, because I was happy to give it another go.

864
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Speaker 3: Nope, Oh listen, I like this one hundred and fifty

865
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: dollars a bottle. I love Sonati, I love Sinatra, I

866
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 3: love the rat pack. It would look cool on a mantle.

867
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: But man, for the juice one hundred and fifty dollars.

868
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: Now fifty five dollars?

869
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: Oh well, definitely No.

870
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: I think there are other jack things I'd want to do.

871
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: I really, I really do. But we're gonna put it

872
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: on a cube and find out. Let us talk about

873
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: the state of tipping, which, as we have discussed and

874
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: you have experienced in your life, has become freaking ridiculous. Yeah,

875
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: drink smoke? Ops? Oh no, to okay, you can say yes, whoops, yes,

876
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: drink smoke. We should have had rehearsal. I'm Tony Katz.

877
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: That's America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers with lloy because there

878
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: was a story over there from Fox News that we

879
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: found on the New York Post five most and least

880
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: generous tipping states. Right who's good at tipping? Who is

881
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: terrible at at at at at giving the giving the tips?

882
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: Right there? And it turns out South Carolina is the

883
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: top of the tipping world, giving twenty point seven to

884
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: one percent, the only state to pass the twenty percent threshold.

885
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 2: And then after that it's Wisconsin, Connecticut, Maryland.

886
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: And Nevada. But on the other end you go to Illinois,

887
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: then Alaska, New York, Virginia, and then Oregon as the

888
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: least generous state right there at only thirteen percent, is

889
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: what it is. They tip. You can play a lot

890
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: with this and talk about the politics of the state,

891
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: and you can do the whole sorts, do the whole

892
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: thing you could. You could play politics with this all

893
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: you want. Well, I would want.

894
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 3: Let's take the state of Oregon. We don't know what,

895
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: off the top of our heads, what the wage laws

896
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 3: are there as far.

897
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: As the minimum wage higher. Yeah, And then some.

898
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 3: States, I believe, or at least some cities have enacted

899
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: where you have to pay you know how some you know,

900
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: weight staff. A lot of times the will only make

901
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: three or four dollars an hour, and then they make

902
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 3: most of their money on tips. Some restaurants, maybe some

903
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 3: states have made companies go ahead and four them to

904
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: pay a higher wage. So people are saying, well, the

905
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: tip is folded into the bill already, so I'm not tipping.

906
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: As much, so that that could be it as well.

907
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: By the way, in Oregon, the new laws come and

908
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: effect July twenty twenty six, where the standard rate will

909
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: be fifteen dollars and five cents an hour. That's the

910
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: minimum wage. Non urban counties are fourteen dollars and five

911
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 1: cents an hour, and then in Portland, the Portland metro area,

912
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: it's sixteen dollars and thirty cents an hour, which that

913
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: alone ends the conversation of this living wage thing, because

914
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: they're saying you can get less money in non urban

915
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: areas because it costs less to live. So therefore there's

916
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: no such thing as a as a a living wage, right,

917
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: It's all mythology. But the real issue here is that

918
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: we have destroyed tipping by demanding tips everywhere, always a machine.

919
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Do you want to leave a tip? Do you want

920
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: to leave this only that, and the answer is no.

921
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Yet none of these people have learned that it's damaging

922
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: to the customer, and I can only conclude that the

923
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: only reason they haven't learned is that people are tipping less,

924
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: but they're tipping more often. So the percentage no to

925
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: your point, right, you make a good point. I'm going

926
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: in a different direction. The percentage could be down, but

927
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: the amount of tipping is up because every damn machine

928
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: kiosk nonsense for cock.

929
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: The craziness is saying, would you like to leave a tip?

930
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: Do you care?

931
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: Or are you low life scumbag?

932
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: Huh? Everybody's watching.

933
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: Well, And what makes it worse is when the cashier

934
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 3: will not to cash here, the waiter or waitress cashes

935
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: you out and has the machine right there. Oh, the

936
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: machine is going to ask you a question, but I'm

937
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: not looking what the answer is. But they got one

938
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: eye on the machine looking what the answer is. I'm

939
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: gonna tip you anyway, but it's like you're they're standing

940
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: right over you as you're writing what the tip is

941
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: going to be.

942
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: So that's it's a violation. Yeah, But the reason for

943
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: that is that it's about card safety. Right, You're no

944
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: longer giving your card to a total stranger who you

945
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: also trusted to bring you food that wasn't spit in,

946
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: or we can go full South Park and and and

947
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: then they walk away with the card and you're like, well,

948
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: what did they do in my card? Where'd they take

949
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: my card? Which is that with my card? And so

950
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: this way the card is safer because it's never out

951
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: of your eyesight or possession.

952
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 3: Then print a receipt for me to be able to

953
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: fill out the rest of the information necessary to pay

954
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: my bill instead of you standing over me with the

955
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: tablet in my hand looking to see what I'm tipping.

956
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: And you've only given me three options, two percent or mortgage.

957
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: That's the you're You're you're not You're not wrong about that.

958
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: The the tipping culture is a problem, and I do

959
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: think it's it is abusive, but I don't see an end.

960
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: And I, by the way, you hear crazy stories where

961
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: shop owners keep the tips. Have you heard these? Oh? Yeah,

962
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: that stuff is so messed up. I'll tell you another thing.

963
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: You need to start looking at too, our fees that

964
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: are added to a bill that you don't know what

965
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: they are. And I'll give you an example over the

966
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: weekend that was at a hotel and spent the night

967
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: and then charged a meal and some drinks from the

968
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: bar to my room right And I woke up the

969
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: next day and I looked at the folio industry lingo

970
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: and there was a thirty dollars service charge from the bar,

971
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: and I said, I don't know what this is. What

972
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: a thirty dollars? Just said the name of the bar,

973
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: service charge thirty dollars. And I said to myself, I

974
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: have no idea what this is. And if I would

975
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: have just you know, a lot of people when they

976
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: stay at a hotel, they'll just leave and not check out,

977
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: not get the bill, and be surprised later. And well,

978
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: I called the front desk, I said, what is this

979
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 3: thirty dollars service charge? They put me on hold for

980
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: about two minutes, came back and said, we don't know

981
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 3: what that service charge is, so we will wave it. No. Yeah,

982
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 3: So they waved the thirty dollars service charge and I said,

983
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: thank you very much, since you don't know what it is,

984
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: it's nice of you to wave it. And I walked

985
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 3: away happy. But if I wouldn't have looked at the

986
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: folio and then called down I would.

987
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Have been charged thirty.

988
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: The front desk said, we don't know what it is.

989
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 3: Yes, we don't know what it just says the restaurant

990
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: the bar service charge and we're like, we don't know

991
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 3: what this is. And being that the bar wasn't open

992
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: because it was eleven thirty in the.

993
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: Morning, assuming it's the bar giving itself the tip for

994
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: the server, because as you charged it.

995
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 3: To the room, but I left a tip, they still

996
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: give you paperwork to fill out. And I filled out

997
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: the paperwork when I paid my bill, and I put

998
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: my name in my room number and the tip and

999
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 3: the total and it wasn't thirty dollars on the nose.

1000
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: It was very strange. But thank you to that hotel

1001
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: for waving that fee that they imposed on me. That

1002
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: they didn't know what it was.

1003
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: That is that's interesting. I have not seen that.

1004
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: We hear about that in Vegas too, Brando, Vegas can

1005
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: kiss off and a lot of people are saying Vegas

1006
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: can kiss You discuss that many times. But there are fees,

1007
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 3: mystery fees where you can ask the restaurant what's this fee,

1008
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 3: and a lot of times they'll wave It's it's crazy.

1009
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: The fees that are added in Las Vegas. So look

1010
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 3: over your bill whether it is the tip that's That's

1011
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 3: the other thing too, when there's an automatic tip added

1012
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: to your bill, and if you're not paying attention, you're

1013
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: gonna tip.

1014
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: On top of the bill and the tip that was

1015
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: already added to begin with. But those are places where

1016
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: you're expecting to tip. I don't want to be asked

1017
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: for a tip at a kiosk where I had to

1018
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: do all the work. It's not it had. It does

1019
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: have to stop. It is a be and the only

1020
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: reason I can come to is that it hasn't stopped

1021
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: is that people still do it and somehow the places

1022
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: they're making money off of this. It's our new normal, Tony. Yeah,

1023
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: you can do it, your new normal.

1024
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 4: Tell you off the air, you do it, your normal,

1025
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: Eat drink smoke it is your cigar bourbon, footy extravaganza.

1026
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz.

1027
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: That's fingers from why you find everything at Eat, Drink,

1028
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: Smoke show dot com. You're of the duke or is

1029
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: it duquet? From Dunbart and Tobacco and Trust right here

1030
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: this five by forty eight with the Habano Rossatto Ecuadorian

1031
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: rapper of Mexican San Andreas and the binder filler that's

1032
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: nick A Rogwin and Pennsylvania Broadleaf. All right, I got

1033
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: a little on even of a burn here. It's probably

1034
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: my fault more than anything else. It's not a big deal.

1035
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: Into the final third here, five by forty eight, smaller

1036
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: a cigar. You have no problem with the burn whatsoever. Yeah,

1037
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: you've talked me into it.

1038
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: Just because of my experiences lately with cigars and a

1039
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: lot of them being high maintenance. This has been a

1040
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: delight to smoke. The flavor profile is nice. At seventeen

1041
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 3: dollars a stick, I'm probably in. It's wood, there's a

1042
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 3: little bit of cocoa, there's pepper. You mentioned it's getting

1043
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: more tobacco forward as I go into the final third

1044
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: of the cigar, and.

1045
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: No, I'm getting a little more spices. I go into

1046
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: the cigar.

1047
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: It's wild. So yeah, I think I'm in. I would

1048
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: not buy a box of these, but I think I

1049
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: would have a couple in my human doory.

1050
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 5: But if I buy a box of these and then

1051
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 5: we split it, okay, I do that. Yeah, I'd do that.

1052
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 5: It's a nice stick.

1053
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: It is uh and and dunbar and Steve Soccer, well done,

1054
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: well played with this. It's it. It's it's not as

1055
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: spice forward as I really thought it was going to

1056
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: be with the Habano Rosato Rapper, but it's it's now

1057
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: at least present. It's there. But that initial with the char,

1058
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: and I keep going back to this, which remind me

1059
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of of The Meat Lovers, the Red

1060
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: Meat Lovers that he does Steve Soccer, Dunbart and Tobacco

1061
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: and trust. I like that. I I I I'm gonna

1062
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: start searching that out. Can I find cigars that have

1063
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: this little bit of char? And You're like, Tony, do

1064
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: you mean burnt?

1065
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 2: I wish I had a better way to kind.

1066
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: Of explain it to people and and and present it

1067
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: to people, but this is this is a nice it's

1068
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: a nice stick. This is.

1069
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was The Red Meat Lover's a limited release

1070
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: or can you still get I think you.

1071
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: Can still get it? If I remember, Red Meat Lovers

1072
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: was something that was only going to be available. It

1073
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: was for an event that he was doing. I don't

1074
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: know if it was in New Hampshire, where their home

1075
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: base is or somewhere else. And then so many people

1076
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: liked it. He introduced it out right.

1077
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: It was it was Was it for an event on

1078
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Speaker 2: a battleship.

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Speaker 1: I think it was where they serve steak this and

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00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: meet that and and everything else, And so I think

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00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: it was for that. And we are drinking the Jack

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: Daniels Sinatra coming in at ninety proof right here. Now,

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00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: I got a cube where I'm gonna dump it in.

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00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: It's it's it's It's got a lot of fruit to it,

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00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of that traditional banana on the nose.

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Speaker 2: It's there. There's nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 1: It's just not my flavor profile as it is neat.

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00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: But I moved into a cube. You added a little

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00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: bit of water to yours. Let me let me go

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Speaker 1: in here.

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Speaker 3: He's going in, ladies and gentlemen. He's doing what we

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00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: call this week the Sinatra swish.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Yeah, it smoothed out a little bit, right,

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00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: It's definitely got a little bit smoother. I keep saying,

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00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: is that chocolate that I get dark chocolate? You said, Cherry,

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00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: I think there's something too there. I'm a little more

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00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: just fruit in general going on. There's a little bit

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00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: of richness, a touch of mouthfeel. But in the end

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Speaker 1: and by the way, the ice on the cube a

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Speaker 1: little more oak, which I appreciate. This is not my

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00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: flavor profile. This is not my flavor profile. And one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five dollars a bottle. It is a

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00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: one leader, but one hundred and fifty five dollars a bottle.

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00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: There are jack products for thirty two bucks. The triple

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00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: mash is what I'm thinking of. I would I would

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Speaker 1: absolutely do over this.

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Speaker 3: I just listen. I like this, but we're talking one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars. I mean, I guess it's one

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01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: of those splurge bottles. It's it's cool to have. The

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01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: box is cool to have, yeah, you know, on your mantle.

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01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: But that's that's just it's two orch for my blood.

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01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 3: But now I'm gonna go in. I took my eye

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01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 3: drop it, and I took a couple of drops of

1114
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: cool water, and I did not use a drop or

1115
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,959
Speaker 3: stop lying to people.

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01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: Stop that. Now, water will bring down proof. That's what

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01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: water does, and same thing with a cube. But what

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01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: it does is some flavors more pronounced, some heightened, some

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01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: a little more subdued. And that's why you gotta try it.

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Speaker 1: And all the ways to see bourbon that doesn't work

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01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: if unique could work for you on a cube and

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 1: vice versa.

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Speaker 3: It brought out a little bit more that kind of

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01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 3: that baking spice, and to me it enhanced the sting

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Speaker 3: even more. Really yeah, which I wasn't expecting. There's oak there,

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01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: a brown sugar, like a cherry, like a dark cherry. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I like it, I really do. This is just all

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Speaker 3: a value conversation. And when you could buy five bottles

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: of Jack for one bottle of this, I I just

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01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: can't do it.

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Speaker 1: There it is, That's all there is to it. Yeah,

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01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: for me, it is it is. There is a dollars conversation,

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01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: but it's just it's just not my it's not my juice.

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01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: And I feel bad. I feel bad, but it.

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Speaker 3: Honesty above everything. This isn't going to get back to Sinatra,

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 3: is it?

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: Well, he's watching right now. It's time fingers with LOI

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Speaker 1: for News of the week.

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Speaker 3: So I have a story from CNBC Tony that makes

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01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: absolutely no sense to me at all. Okay, because we

1141
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 3: have been talking for months now about the affordability crisis

1142
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: and how people are struggling to pay their bills and afordability. Yes,

1143
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: that's what people are saying. And yet CNBC reports that

1144
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 3: there's research done by the Black Rock Foundation and Commonwealth

1145
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: that says since twenty twenty, the number of low and

1146
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: moderate income investors has increased one hundred and sixty seven percent.

1147
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: Wait stop, walk me back through it. This is from CNBC. Yes,

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01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: and this story reads that what now, since twenty twenty,

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01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: the number of low and moderate income investors has increased

1150
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty seven percent. Okay, that's not data.

1151
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: Data has to come from the follow up question. I

1152
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: do not know if it's in the article. I actually

1153
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 1: just pulled it up. What age group? What age group

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01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: are we talking about here? Because low and moderate income

1155
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: investors who are gen Z and just starting out in life,

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01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: this is very very interesting that they see.

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01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: Their economic future having.

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01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: One and they're seeing what the markets can do, whether

1159
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: they're finding stuff on YouTube or on Instagram other places,

1160
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: TikTok videos where they're getting advice, ideas, etc. Or Is

1161
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: this is this gen X and boomers trying to engage

1162
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: in some level of catch up thinking that they're going

1163
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: to live for freaking Ever.

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Speaker 3: It does not have from what I see here, a

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01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 3: breakdown as far as the age of the investors. But

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 3: what it does say is the reasons why there is

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 3: much more information out there for people to make intelligent

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01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: decisions on investing. And then on top of it, there

1169
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 3: are many more avenues on which to invest, particularly through apps.

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01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 3: They get much easier for people to invest.

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01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: But it's been easier for the last twenty years the

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01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: apps have been there. Fifteen years they've been there, it

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01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: has been easier. So you had said something to me

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Speaker 1: the other day that you think maybe people are starting

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Speaker 1: to have a little more faith in the economy, that

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01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: maybe some things have turned a quarter now. I think

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Speaker 1: that what has happened with Iran changes all that. We

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01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: should get into what's going on with Iran, and certainly

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Speaker 1: we can only give you the information we have now

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01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: and no information that might change. And this is a fluid,

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01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: fluid situation. I would like to think that that's true,

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: because that's that's a nice sign. I don't know if

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01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: it necessarily is true, but I would like to think

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Speaker 1: that that it's true. Do you I buy that Do

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01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: you see certain apps?

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Speaker 3: And I don't have the information on what apps they

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01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: are off off the top of my head or in

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: front of me, but they'll even take when you make

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Speaker 3: a purchase, they'll round up and then take that money

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Speaker 3: and invest it so it may only be thirty cents.

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01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 3: You know, you spend six dollars and seventy cents on something,

1192
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 3: they'll take thirty cents, roll it into an account, and

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01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: over you know time. You know, it's a little bit

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01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: of money here, a little bit of money there. But

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01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 3: if you are making several purchases a day, a week,

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Speaker 3: and a year, that does add up and accounts.

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Speaker 1: If you're not teaching your kids about compounding, start with

1198
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: anything and just keep at it. That's all you gotta do.

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: Just keep at it. Don't look at it every day.

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01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: Just let it cook. Life will be.

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01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 2: Good down the road.

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01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: It will.

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Speaker 2: We do Eat Drink Smoke to avoid the politics.

1204
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: We started it this way. We both do political radio

1205
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: myself in Indianapolis with a morning show here and a

1206
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: nationally syndicated radio show Fingers Maloy in Michigan, and we

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01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: wanted Eat Drink Smoke to be the break and the

1208
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: escape from that. But we also talk about what's being

1209
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: discussed in the cigar lounge, and the war in Iran

1210
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: is something that's being discussed in the cigar lounge. So

1211
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna get discussed here. It's eat, drink, smoke. I'm

1212
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: Tony Katz. That's America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. So

1213
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: this was early last weekend, Saturday morning, the United States

1214
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: in Israel engaging in this coordinated attack against the Iranian regime.

1215
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: You then had the announcement from President Trump video announcement

1216
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: the Israeli state absolutely we are involved in this. You

1217
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: had forty high level members of the Iranian regime taken out,

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: the Ayatola, the Iola, Kamane, what was killed. You had

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: Iran pushing back and firing at neighboring countries like Kuwait

1220
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: and Qatar, countries that would normally possibly be on a

1221
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: rand side. Well, that ended, That is over. This has

1222
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: continued in the days ahead. Now as we are talking

1223
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: to you, we only have limited information. It's only been

1224
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: a few.

1225
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Speaker 2: Days, so things absolutely can change.

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Speaker 1: But the real as we bring this part of the

1227
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Speaker 1: story is not whether or not we agree or disagree.

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Speaker 1: If I'm asked, I'll tell you what I think and

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01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: if you ask me, I do agree. But we can

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Speaker 1: discuss that part of it later. Oil prices immediately shot

1231
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: up immediately shot up. The markets went all sorts of cattiwampus,

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01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: and it's kind of amazing that you take a look

1233
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: at I think it was a Tuesday.

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01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 2: The Dow went down.

1235
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: Twelve hundred points immediately, and then it came back and

1236
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: it closed four hundo points down.

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Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, four unto points down is

1238
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: a real down.

1239
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: But I think the story here is that there's still

1240
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: these these fluctuations, there's still this kind of feeling it

1241
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: out what it means. The oil prices went up per barrel.

1242
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Speaker 1: The Brent crude was at eighty dollars a barrel. I'm sorry,

1243
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: the Brent crude was at eighty seven dollars a barrel

1244
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: at one moment that I saw this week.

1245
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Speaker 2: It could be higher by now.

1246
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: And then the West Texas crewed which comes out of

1247
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: the ground was at eighty dollars. The West Texas is

1248
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: always a little less expensive than the Brent's crude on

1249
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: the barrel price. Gas prices have been coming down, and

1250
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: if you want to take a look at popularity polls

1251
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: and approval poles, Trump's popularity was going up because gas

1252
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: prices had come down. This changes things. So when you

1253
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: were seeing national averages that were getting that two dollars,

1254
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: and you know, the administration claims a little bit lower.

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01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: I would say it was a little bit higher. I

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01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: think we're now going to see three dollars plus gas

1257
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: for a while, especially when you see oil refineries in Riyad,

1258
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia and other places that are offline right

1259
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: now because they're dealing with these attacks that are coming

1260
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Speaker 1: from Iran. And Iran and Saudi Arabia are not friends.

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01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: They have been in this fight for hegemonic power. The

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01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: whole civil war in Yemen is a proxy fight between

1263
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: the Saudis and Iran via a group called the Huti

1264
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:51,799
Speaker 1: Rebels h ou Thi.

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Speaker 2: So there's no love loss there.

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Speaker 1: But the America's acceptance not acceptance of this. And I'm

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01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: calling it a war. You can call it a conflict,

1268
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: call it anything you will. I'm just using a more

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: generic term. It's all going to be based on whether

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: or not it increases their prices and for how long.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how people look at.

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Speaker 3: This, and also how many American service members end up

1273
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 3: unfortunately losing their lives during this whole operation. Right But

1274
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's strange that when this happened, and

1275
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 3: especially because there was talk, you know, Iranian threats of

1276
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,839
Speaker 3: cutting off the Strait of Hormuz, which.

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Speaker 1: Which may still come in time you hear this, it

1278
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: may have happened.

1279
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Speaker 3: Twenty percent of the world's oil supply flows through that

1280
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 3: straight you know, there used to be talk if that

1281
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 3: threat ever happened, you'd see oil shoot up to one

1282
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars a barrel. Of course, that.

1283
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: Hasn't happened, but the threat has been there.

1284
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Speaker 3: I'm actually surprised that at this point as we're speaking,

1285
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: that oil hasn't shot up more than it has, especially

1286
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 3: with the attack on the refineries that you're talking about,

1287
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: and then you know the threat of of the Strait

1288
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 3: of Hormones being closed, and.

1289
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Speaker 1: Some people have asked, how is that going to happen?

1290
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Speaker 1: The Strait of Hormuz is there's this little where the

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Speaker 1: Persian Gulf is. It goes into the Gulf of Oman.

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Speaker 1: Look at the map, it's it's really interesting. There's this

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Speaker 1: jut out that takes place, and so it's a very

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Speaker 1: very thin bit of of of area where these massive

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Speaker 1: ships are going around. You put a couple of ships

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Speaker 1: in their sideways. No one's getting through. And what the

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Speaker 1: theory has been what the Iranians would do is they

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Speaker 1: would take some of their ships and just think them

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Speaker 1: boom right there. Now, the initial tack took out eleven

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Speaker 1: ships out of the out of the Iranian navy. Now

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Speaker 1: there are other ships, and there are the boats, and

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Speaker 1: are the things that they could do. They've gained planned this,

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Speaker 1: but they've also lost a tremendous amount of their leadership

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Speaker 1: and they may not be able to operate the way

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Speaker 1: they normally operated. But yeah, that is a huge one.

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Speaker 1: That is that is a huge one, not only an

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Speaker 1: oil price, but lives loss.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing that I think needs to be

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Speaker 3: talked about is how impressive it is that they were

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Speaker 3: able to pull out pull off this operation without any leaks.

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Speaker 3: I mean it everyone felt like this was coming, but

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Speaker 3: usually you're Hue whispers, Hey it's it's coming now, Hey

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Speaker 3: we're going to see something this weekend. And it really

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Speaker 3: I felt even though there was a build up, there

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Speaker 3: was still talk of negotiations, and the fact that it

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Speaker 3: happened Saturday morning, I think caught a lot of people

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Speaker 3: off guard. And I think it's really impressive that they

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Speaker 3: were able to pull this off without any leaks.

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Speaker 1: Can I change the subject for one moment. Absolutely, you

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Speaker 1: have some cigar ash in your right eyebrow. Of course.

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Speaker 3: Oh some of us have a real passion and flair

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Speaker 3: for cigars. Tony, I was say, thank you, it's still

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Speaker 3: it's still, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was totally freaking me out. I know

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Speaker 1: it was serious, but come on, come on. The ability

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Speaker 1: as of late, and again, however you feel politically whatever

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Speaker 1: for this Pentagon, the attack that took out the nuclear

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Speaker 1: facilities in Iran, total misdirection. What the capture of Nicholas

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Speaker 1: Maduro in Venezuela. These have been incredible operations. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that you also have to be looking at

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Speaker 1: is the taking of Maduro leads to the US control

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Speaker 1: of Venezuelan oil. Agreer disagree. I'm just saying, what is

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Speaker 1: now You have this, and it's a control of an

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Speaker 1: oil flow. In both of those places engage serious oil

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Speaker 1: flow to China, and so what you have to be

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Speaker 1: looking at is how China reacts because this is approximately

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Speaker 1: also getting oil from Russia. This is going to either

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Speaker 2: That's that's standard stuff.

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Speaker 1: So how China acts and reacts on this is gonna

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