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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan,

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Speaker 1: Good morning, all of us on the run all day

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Speaker 1: long yesterday. Welcome into a Tuesday and the Fan Morning

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Speaker 1: Show Free Agency. It's a blitz and it has been

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Speaker 1: going fast and furious and heavy, and the Colts have

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Speaker 1: been involved in maybe even team number one to start

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Speaker 1: all the dominoes yesterday, and we're here to talk about

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Speaker 1: it all morning long. Give us feedback at two, three, nine,

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Speaker 1: ten seventy on the fan text line, Good morning, Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 1: Good morning, James Boyd, Good morning, Mark dyd And the

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Speaker 1: Bears got another pass rusher yesterday too. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that later on. But KB, how did the Colts do

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Speaker 1: on day one of legal tampering?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they they got their top priority done

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Speaker 2: in terms of bringing back Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: I will also be in the fold. And now we

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Speaker 2: wait and see either defensive front. You know, if you

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Speaker 2: look at additions subtractions, I guess maybe there wasn't a ton.

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Speaker 3: Obviously.

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Speaker 2: One of the bigger news items yesterday was getting rid

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Speaker 2: of Michael Pittman Junior so you know, that's probably a

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Speaker 2: different from Chris Baward that we've seen here in recent years.

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Speaker 2: To be expected, I thought you tried to kind of

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Speaker 2: hint at this was likely an outcome here for some

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Speaker 2: of their pillar players. But yeah, I'd say, I wake

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Speaker 2: up today kind of there where where do the defensive

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Speaker 3: Now? Come? Got done with d Alak Pierce and now

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Speaker 3: that's probably where my focus shifts.

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Speaker 1: James Boyd, how would you say the Colts did yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Ye forget what y'all talking about?

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Speaker 5: Can we talk about one hundred and sixteen million dollars

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Speaker 5: and how much money that is?

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Speaker 6: Boy?

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Speaker 4: I was thinking to myself, Alec Pierce, you are made man.

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Speaker 5: He earned it, and honestly, the comparison I saw a lot. Kevin,

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Speaker 5: I think you might have talked about this last week

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Speaker 5: or earlier this week. He's the Christian Kirk of this

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Speaker 5: free agency class where people are like, how much is

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Speaker 5: he getting? And is he really worth that much? Oh?

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Speaker 4: The joys of being overpaid presumably.

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Speaker 5: But I think that he earned it, and obviously that

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Speaker 5: was the big domino for the Colts and now all

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Speaker 5: their attention at the moment, I want to say all

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Speaker 5: but most of it will be geared toward getting a

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Speaker 5: long term deal done with Daniel Jones now, So that's

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Speaker 5: what I was told, is that they're working towards that.

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Speaker 4: We'll see if that gets to resolution today.

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Speaker 5: But the big, big splash in free agency was Alec Pierce, who,

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Speaker 5: by the way, didn't really give other teams a chance.

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Speaker 5: I want to test the market. I'm sitting there at

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Speaker 5: twelve oh one, and the market that got tested, all right.

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Speaker 5: But so if you here to Alec, I did hear

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Speaker 5: that a few teams offered him more money and he

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Speaker 5: chose to stay in Indianapolis. So I think Kevin, you

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Speaker 5: were on this all along. If it was close, he

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Speaker 5: would stay with the Colts because of relationship with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 5: So that was a big, big get to retain Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people always talk about a

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Speaker 1: record setting contract, and we see this almost every year,

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Speaker 1: but it's like real estate, it's location, location, location. This year,

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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce had the skill set that people wanted on

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Speaker 1: the free agent market, and there wasn't a lot of

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Speaker 1: other big name wide receivers on that free agent market.

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Speaker 1: The way that salaries continue to rise and rise and rise.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense that a guy that was the most

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Speaker 1: coveted white out on the free agent market this year

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Speaker 1: gets a new record deal, and next year somebody else

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Speaker 1: will break that deal, and the year after that, somebody

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Speaker 1: else will break that deal too. So I always remember

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Speaker 1: that being the highest paid guy in today's world is

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Speaker 1: a lot of times. Kevin just be in the right

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Speaker 1: place at the right time and the right guy.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yes, the salary cap what increased by twenty two

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Speaker 2: million this year, so inevitably you're gonna have contracts that

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Speaker 4: Be the salary cap to increase.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, well I'll let you walk up stairs and.

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Speaker 1: Talk about I have an email pending James.

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Speaker 2: Now, all right, well, unpenned, I think I know how

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Speaker 2: the response will be to that email.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as far as Pierce is concerned, you just

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Speaker 2: he's just again, a very coveted guy. I feel like

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Speaker 2: a broken record and repeating myself in the fast few weeks.

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Speaker 2: But you can't play half court offense. And if you

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Speaker 2: don't have a player like that, you're lateral. You are

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Speaker 2: a we can't.

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Speaker 4: Play half court offen, you are a team.

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Speaker 3: Coach. Bowen has a very very controlled ceiling and this

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Speaker 2: Of course, with the departure of Michael Pittman Jr. Now

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Speaker 2: the question becomes, Okay, is a wide receiver need there?

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Speaker 2: Is it just strictly falling more onto the plate of

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Speaker 2: Alec Pierce to do more of the methodical stuff Tyler

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Speaker 2: Warren of course in a second year. So you know,

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Speaker 2: all of those I think are very now relevant questions

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Speaker 2: because in terms of Pittman, you know, I think in

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Speaker 2: an ideal world you would have restructured and kept him,

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Speaker 2: but that wasn't possible, you know, by the Colts and

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Speaker 2: how their finances are going to look. So you know

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Speaker 2: that ended up being just a salary dump. Mark Calby

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Speaker 2: from the kind of Pittsburgh Beat reported last night he

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Speaker 2: just basically a late sixth round swap with a seventh

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Speaker 2: salary dump is what Michael Pittman Jr.

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Speaker 3: Turned out to be here. So you know, where's wide

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Speaker 2: As we wake up on this Tuesday morning here, the

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Speaker 2: Colts made.

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Speaker 3: A pass rush move yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I would say that pass rush move needs to be

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Speaker 2: a move, not the move at pass Rusher I would

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Speaker 2: agree coming up this week. So again that's kind of

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Speaker 2: where my big focus will will lie. But yeah, you know, again,

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Speaker 2: kudos to Chris Ballard for knowing how Alec Pierce felt.

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Speaker 2: I yes, James, I tried to kind of reiterate that point,

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Speaker 2: but still you just never are truly sure. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Ballard played a game of risk. You know, my argument was,

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Speaker 2: I don't really see the immense amount of reward in

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Speaker 2: the game of risk. I still don't see it, to

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. But he clearly felt like they

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Speaker 2: were in a position to where they could retain Alec

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Speaker 2: Pierce on a competitive market. And boy, if Alec Peers

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Speaker 2: indeed turned down more money from other teams, they should

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Speaker 2: build a statue right next to Peyton.

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Speaker 1: Manyform depending on how the next couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he just wanted to come back here, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's nice. I mean, how many people say no to

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Speaker 9: Not me?

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Speaker 2: And it's not like he's walking into an organization that

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Speaker 2: has some elite quarterback and winning culture.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Alex Pirice must really really love the Midwest.

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Speaker 2: He must really really love Daniel Jones, he must really

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Speaker 2: really love Country Club of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: And I would also really love one hundred and sixteen

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Speaker 3: Well, sure, sure, I'm as curious.

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Speaker 5: To Kevin When people are like he turned out more money,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, how much more? Because again, if it's like

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Speaker 5: one twenty to move some from who you know, I'm

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Speaker 5: always curious about that.

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Speaker 3: But in all, you rather have one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 5: That's basically, well, I won't say basically because I don't

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Speaker 5: know exact number, but yeah, that's the essence of the question.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I would agree with him.

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Speaker 5: I think that hitching your wagon and Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 5: probably not the smartest thing to do given his injury history.

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Speaker 5: He is a tough guy, I'll give him that, and

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Speaker 5: I think he's a pretty good quarterback, proved that last

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Speaker 4: But again, and you just can't bank on him staying healthy.

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Speaker 5: And we can get into all of that throughout the show,

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Speaker 5: but again, that was the Colt's goal to retain both players.

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Speaker 5: You've done that on a long term deal with Ali Pierce,

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Speaker 5: and now you try to do that with your quarterback

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Speaker 5: and Daniel Jones. And by all accounts from what I

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Speaker 5: But I'm very curious to see again what is the

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Speaker 5: actual number that they retain him at?

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Speaker 4: And also for Alec, what is your contract structure?

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Speaker 5: Like like, we look at the annual average because that's

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Speaker 5: what we always do, you know, one sixteen divided by four,

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Speaker 5: but it's not really that. You know, your cap hit

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Speaker 5: can be kind of you know, lowered in year one

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Speaker 5: or backloaded or whatever. So how do the cold structure

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Speaker 5: these deals to make sure they are able to, like

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Speaker 5: you said, Kevin, make more moves, not just a move

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Speaker 5: at edge linebacker, perhaps wide receiver, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the big question now is Daniel Jones, and

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Speaker 1: I suppose Kevin there's still time for somebody to swoop

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Speaker 1: we need a quarterback, come on over here for three

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Speaker 1: years and one hundred and fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 6: Not that that's I'm.

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Speaker 1: Expecting that to happen but the possibility is still out there, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he technically is not, you know, sign

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Speaker 2: on a long term deal. But again, I don't think

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Speaker 2: Alex Pearce is coming back without whatever strong word of mouth.

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Speaker 3: If not, you know, some sort of handshake agreement done.

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Speaker 2: Here and now again the question for me will start

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Speaker 2: to shift, and I've already seen it here in the

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Speaker 2: YouTube chat of Okay, how did the Colts get better yesterday? Well,

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Speaker 2: if you look purely additions and subtractions, you really probably

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Speaker 2: can't make any statement they got better. So now it

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Speaker 2: becomes Okay, Michael Pittman Junior's gone, where's that cap space?

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Speaker 2: Franklin is traded? Where's that cap space? You know you

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Speaker 2: have lost some notable players. Albeit you know, there are

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Speaker 2: times that I think it was it made some sense

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Speaker 2: more Franklin than Pittman, maybe to kind of part way

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Speaker 2: those our two team captains, though, and now becomes a

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Speaker 2: question for me of okay, how do you go ahead

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Speaker 2: and get better? Cause if you look at pass Rusher,

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Speaker 2: it was a very active day besides Trey Hendrickson, Like

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson is really the one left out there. You know,

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Speaker 2: you had a lot I think of notable edge rushing contracts.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips, adolf O Way.

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Speaker 4: You ran on and I saw the price tag on him.

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Speaker 2: I was like, boy, he got paid, and Jalen Phillips

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Speaker 2: got paid in Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's pricey.

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Speaker 2: So is this a Hendrick Center bus Because when I

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Speaker 2: start looking at the list.

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Speaker 4: Hey, quitty Pay got paid, no pun intended.

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Speaker 3: I kind of see a lot of others. Quitty Pay

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Speaker 3: did get paid. Geez, yeah, sixteen million a year. The

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Speaker 3: Raiders paid a lot of dudes.

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Speaker 5: To be clear, I don't think that the Colt should

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Speaker 5: have paid him, no. Sixteen million dollars a year, but

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Speaker 5: shout out to quitty Man again. To Jeff's point, you

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Speaker 5: are a free agent at the right time because I

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Speaker 5: don't know if he's worth that much, but you're always

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Speaker 4: And he's cheaper too.

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Speaker 2: It's not overwhelmingly new, but again, the cults are doing

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Speaker 1: All right, lots to talk about today. As always, we'll

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Speaker 1: keep the text line open, and lot of people have

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Speaker 1: happy said, angry, joyous, whatever it is you let us

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Speaker 1: We've got the guys to do it here today and

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Speaker 1: of the Colts, and they'll be having conversations with you

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Speaker 6: Mark, you you satisfied with that.

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Speaker 10: I think they've kind of replaced guys and stuff, so

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Speaker 1: Do, all right, we'll tell you all about it coming

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Speaker 1: up in the moment. Ninety three five and one oh

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Speaker 1: seven five The Fan. Good morning, everyone, and welcome into

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday at the Fan Morning Show. Ninety three five,

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Speaker 1: one oh seven five The Fan. We've got Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 1: James Boyd, Mark Diyton. I'm jeff Rickard. And the Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Colts have Alec Pierce all locked up. They get to

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Speaker 1: work now on a longer term deal with quarterback Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: They get a defensive end yesterday, although not the defensive end,

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Speaker 1: they did lose Nevill Gallimore. They did trade Zire Franklin

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Speaker 1: then Quitty signed with the Raiders yesterday. Still waiting on

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Speaker 5: Well, shout out to Mark for playing more money, more

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Speaker 6: To Diana Ross sample in there.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Alec Pierce Plannet felt like me walking

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, boys you open up the door, It's like, damn,

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Speaker 10: The coach windows were open overnight.

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Speaker 3: That was a change Mark.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm always very prompt to the show.

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Speaker 5: So as I'm walking in at six point fifty eight,

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Speaker 3: So so that you Saint Bolton the.

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Speaker 5: Open field, No man, I'm just saying, you know you

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Speaker 5: Alec piercey both won in four fours.

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Speaker 3: I forgot my water?

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Speaker 4: Is that what that was?

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Speaker 1: Forgot my water, the sneaky athleticism of Kevin Bowen, James Boyd,

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Speaker 5: But to answer Jeff's question, I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: Will you explain this, James a little further? And because

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Speaker 5: When you have this one year deal, all of that

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Speaker 5: If you get to a place where it's over multiple years,

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Speaker 4: That allows you to have flexibility.

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Speaker 1: Right, So we keep an eye on what the Colts

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Speaker 6: Can they?

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Speaker 5: I think they've made investments in the offensive line at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and one of the name that continues to intrigue me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little hesitant on it right now.

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Speaker 2: that is probably the one in house guy at that point.

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Speaker 2: To Mark, let's play this Rick Ventury audio. This was

439
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Speaker 2: from back in training camp again, just to set this up.

440
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Speaker 2: At the time the Colts had just gotten the Bernard

441
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 2: Ryman contract done. The Terry McLaurin News was starting to

442
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Speaker 2: you get to kind of the front of the NFL

443
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Speaker 2: cycle of you know, hey, here's the former third round

444
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Speaker 2: pick who wants another contract and will that team.

445
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Speaker 3: Give it to him?

446
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Speaker 2: And it kind of sparked in my mind, oh wow,

447
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Speaker 2: the Colts might have this debate at the end of

448
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, a second contract for Alec Pierce allbeat

449
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Speaker 2: a little bit more expensive or a third contract for

450
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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior. And even before the start of last season,

451
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Speaker 2: I think you could make a case for Pierce. And

452
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Speaker 2: what I've said all along about Pierce, to me, he's

453
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Speaker 2: the harder trait to replace. And I think you hear

454
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Speaker 2: Rick Ventury describe it from a defensive coach mindset in

455
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Speaker 2: a back set up Alec Pierce contract here, I think

456
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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior, deep down thinks it's a contract year

457
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Speaker 2: for him. He wants a third contract. Well you rather

458
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Speaker 2: have Pierce, You rather have Pittman for the next four years.

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Speaker 8: Well, don't get me wrong, and don't And I'm gonna

460
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Speaker 8: get a lot of brushback on this. I really like

461
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Speaker 8: Michael Pittman. I think he does a lot of dirty

462
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Speaker 8: work for us. He's been a really good player. He'll block,

463
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Speaker 8: he'll high volume catch, but he's scheme dependent. Okay, he's

464
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Speaker 8: scheme dependent. He's eighty second in the league in yards

465
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Speaker 8: per catch and in the nineties and scoring.

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Speaker 9: Okay.

467
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Speaker 8: So on the other hand, you have the leading receiver

468
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Speaker 8: deep ball guy twenty two to three in the league

469
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Speaker 8: in Pierce, who's going like this. So to me, I

470
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Speaker 8: see Pierce as a game changer.

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Speaker 1: Is he the dog the wide receiver one right now?

472
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Speaker 9: No, to me, he is.

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Speaker 8: Now I look at it from a defensive coordinator prism.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if I'm looking at who, Yeah, I gotta

475
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Speaker 8: stop Taylor, okay, and I gotta stop Pierce on the

476
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Speaker 8: big play.

477
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Speaker 9: Okay.

478
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Speaker 8: Now, with Warren coming in and downs inside, I situationally

479
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Speaker 8: will play them.

480
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Speaker 9: I'll play.

481
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Speaker 8: I'll play the hell out of downs on third and five.

482
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Speaker 8: You know, I'll make sure I don't get a mismatch.

483
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Speaker 8: But I'm not gonna let Piers beat me deep or

484
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 8: or Taylor wear me out. I'm just not okay, And

485
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Speaker 8: enough said.

486
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Speaker 6: Enough said.

487
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Speaker 1: He was prescient as always, And here we are looking

488
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Speaker 1: at Alec Pierce as the number one wide receiver for

489
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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. And again the things you like about him,

490
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: not just the speed, but he's a pretty big guy.

491
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Speaker 6: He's not a small guy. He can find himself.

492
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Speaker 1: I think as he learns that he makes those great

493
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Speaker 1: contested catches.

494
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Speaker 6: Is he you know?

495
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Speaker 1: Is he? He's a guy that I think you can

496
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Speaker 1: start to lean on on third and seven, third and eight,

497
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Speaker 1: maybe it's third and goal at the six yard line.

498
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Speaker 6: I think he's a pretty good looking target for stuff

499
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Speaker 6: like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Jim.

501
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Speaker 5: Sorry, So now, well you're fine. Do you trust him

502
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Speaker 5: as a number one? And we debate this all the

503
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Speaker 5: time what's the true number one? And I think at

504
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Speaker 5: number one is like who's the top guy on your team?

505
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Speaker 5: He's top of the scouting report. I'm not going to

506
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Speaker 5: get into the whole debate of if he's on the

507
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Speaker 5: same tier as the guys he's probably getting paid. Like

508
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Speaker 5: I love Alex, I do not think that he's in

509
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Speaker 5: the same class as perhaps a Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson,

510
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Speaker 5: Like those are transcendent type of players. But can't he

511
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Speaker 5: be the guy who is at the top of the

512
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Speaker 5: scouting purport every week and deliver every week regardless?

513
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Speaker 4: And can you do that knowing that a large.

514
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Speaker 5: Chunk of that attention is now gone because even though

515
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Speaker 5: Michael Pavan Junior had a down year, he still had

516
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Speaker 5: to be accounted for. Now the Colt have to pivot,

517
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Speaker 5: I think, to adding another receiver either through the draft

518
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Speaker 5: or through free agency, to kind of fill in as

519
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Speaker 5: a number two. Because as much as I like Josh Downs,

520
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Speaker 5: I don't think that he's a number two quite frankly

521
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Speaker 5: mainly because of size more than anything else. But how

522
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Speaker 5: do you fill that void? Because asking Alex to be

523
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Speaker 5: your number one is one thing. Asking him to be

524
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Speaker 5: a number one without filling the void Michael Pitman Jr.

525
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Speaker 4: Left is a whole other thing in my opinion.

526
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryle's here in the text line asked us, you

527
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Speaker 2: know what does Pierce need to do to earn the contract?

528
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Speaker 2: And A he needs to continue to be the home

529
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Speaker 2: run hitter. But once again, the World Baseball Classic is

530
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Speaker 2: alive and well in me to continue down that out

531
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Speaker 2: that analogy, just a few more singles and doubles. Yes,

532
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Speaker 2: and I go back to the Seattle game where it's

533
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: a critical third and seven late in that game, Philip

534
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 2: Rivers can't throw the ball from me to Mark and

535
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: you need something intermediate, and what happened Pierce back shoulder boom.

536
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 2: IU football fans, I hate to make the white receiver analogy,

537
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Speaker 2: but look at how Charlie Becker made some game changing

538
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: plays in that fourth quarter. That's kind of what it

539
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: is when you've earned the respect. Pierce and Becker are

540
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Speaker 2: the same way.

541
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Speaker 5: Who that's that's Alex Pierce Jr.

542
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Speaker 3: Charlie b from Tennessee.

543
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Speaker 6: Right, he had a heck of a second half of

544
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Speaker 6: the season.

545
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Speaker 1: We knew that I.

546
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: Earn the respect over the top. Now that's how you're

547
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: gonna get played by defensive backs. Oh gosh, I can't

548
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: get beat by him. I can't let him get behind me.

549
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: My coach showed me that seven times on film all

550
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Speaker 2: week long. Well, now does the comeback open up a

551
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: little bit more? Does the back shoulder open up a

552
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: little bit more? And again the National title game you

553
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: saw though with Becker, I mean two huge grabs to

554
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: help Indiana ice that game. That would be my question

555
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: now with Pierce is again, can you do a little

556
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: bit more of the methodical when they put that safety

557
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: over the top and they say absolutely not, how do

558
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: you counter that? And you know, a guy like Tyler

559
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: Warren and a guy like Josh Downs, yes, they can

560
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: help you a little bit more from the methodical nature.

561
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: But James, one unknown I have here on this Tuesday

562
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Speaker 2: morning is how do they view wide out?

563
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 9: Now?

564
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: I don't get the impression they view it as pressing

565
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: as I think a lot of people would think it is.

566
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Right now, because you did just lose an eighty catch

567
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: guy out the door and Michael Junior and in house

568
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: there's really you know, Adie Mitchell's not there. Ashton Dooland

569
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: plays a lot of special teams and unfortunately he seems

570
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: to get kind of that nagging hamstring every year.

571
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. Anthony Gould is not that body type.

572
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: So I am curious wide out is it there with

573
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Speaker 2: defensive ended linebacker? When the draft rolls around? Are they

574
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 2: drafting a receiver on day two? Is Elijah Surat if

575
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 2: we can continue the EU train, is he coming here?

576
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 9: Like? What?

577
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: How do you view wide receiver? Now?

578
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 5: I do think you need like that big bodied, kind

579
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 5: of possession catch receiver to add to your offense.

580
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: But again, how do you think.

581
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 3: They view it?

582
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 9: Though?

583
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: I hear you out, but do you think they well?

584
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 5: Mark, I think we have some audio on this when

585
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 5: it comes to Chris Ballard and Kevin Bowen and receivers Kevin, So,

586
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not surprised that Kevin is taking this

587
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 5: stance here.

588
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, can I remind you, Mark Dyke in

589
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: the audio that you have played a time or two

590
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: freaking Bowen two months later?

591
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 3: Do you know who he drafted?

592
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 4: Was it Pittman. It can't be Pittman, or it can't

593
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 4: be Pittman.

594
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 3: Don't call him Alex, Alec Pierce.

595
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: Nothing young.

596
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: But I do think we're really skilled.

597
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: I mean, no, no, the other one, the other one, Mark,

598
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 2: the NFL combine one I know with me there that

599
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: was at West fifty six.

600
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Speaker 3: We need the NFL choose from over there, Mark, I

601
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: know one where he.

602
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 2: Said he's a reader and a listener, which I was like,

603
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, just unbelievable.

604
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: People p one the Colleen Bowen.

605
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: Step aside, Chris Ballard was consuming all the content.

606
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Speaker 5: Well, I will say this, I think when you bring

607
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 5: it up, Kevin, I get a little more worried about

608
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 5: that position.

609
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, I kind of agree there.

610
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 5: And it comes down to again, and I want to say,

611
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 5: Jeff is going to ask this question in a different way,

612
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 5: But you know, how do you address both? And we

613
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: get that you it's your wagon too, Alec Pierce, which

614
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 5: I understand you developed them, you want to pay them,

615
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 5: and that makes sense. But now it's like, how do

616
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 5: you try to get the best of both worlds? Do

617
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 5: you want to still improve in the wide receiver room,

618
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 5: but you have to improve on the edge. So that's

619
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 5: a hard question, and I don't know exactly what the

620
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 5: right answer is because you can't just ignore it. I

621
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 5: think ignoring it will make again life pretty hard on

622
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Speaker 5: Alec Pierce.

623
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: Well, they're going to have to figure out what to

624
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: do at that number two spot. But at the end

625
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: of the day too, they feel like they've got their

626
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: quarterback that wraps up with Daniel Jones, They've got their

627
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: tight end and Tyler Warren. Now they feel they've got

628
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: their their number one wide receiver in Alec Pierce. And

629
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: we all know how good JT is. If you're Chris

630
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: Baler or are you feeling pretty good about things right now?

631
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 11: The way you definitely make me think, and I mean

632
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 11: bowen every time I freaking read or listen to Bowen,

633
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 11: it's like a constant, freaking barrage of a white house

634
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 11: listen and read.

635
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean I should have gone up there and hugged

636
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: him that.

637
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 2: I'd like to hug Chris Ballad Right, Yeah, lot out there,

638
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: it's a long line, some furniture moving the line from

639
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: West fifty sixth Street all the way to Lucas Oil.

640
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: Then again two months later.

641
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 5: This from Barry from Zionsville says Tyler Warren is your

642
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 5: number two.

643
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: I would agree there.

644
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: I think he's the number two piece of your passing offense.

645
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 5: But I just don't want to diminish the role still

646
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 5: having another receiver there. But I would agree when it

647
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 5: comes to the pecking order of guys, you want to

648
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: make sure you're implemented in your passing game. Yes, it's

649
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 5: it's Alec and Tyler Warren, and you can flip flop

650
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: him on any given day. But again, I don't want

651
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 5: to act like losing Michael Pittman Junior is nothing.

652
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: It is definitely not nothing. It's something.

653
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 5: Even though he had a down year last year, that's

654
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 5: still what eighty catches about seven hundred and eighty yards

655
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: and seven touchdowns just walking out of the door durable.

656
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the other word with not to be like

657
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: that guy.

658
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: But you need a blocker too, Like the dude was

659
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 5: a nasty blocker and that matters, especially when you lean

660
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 5: in the run game as much as the Cult did,

661
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 5: especially in the first half of that season. So you

662
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 5: can't just dismiss all fastest of his game and say, well,

663
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: you know we had to get cheaper. Well, you got

664
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 5: to get cheaper and also still try to backfill.

665
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just add I am also still edge

666
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: rusher above wide out to kind of go off.

667
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: Where you were going.

668
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, But you know, with the Rick Ventury

669
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: comments that we just played for you a few minutes ago,

670
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: if you were going to tell me Alec Pierce and

671
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: let's just play out the math. Nine million dollars annually

672
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: more than Michael Pittman, JUNR. I'd rather have Pierce on

673
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: a second contract than Pittman on a third. I'll acknowledge

674
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: a nine million, but I'll also acknowledge the age difference

675
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: and the trait difference.

676
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: It's easier to find a Pittman than it is to

677
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: find a Peers.

678
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: We have an anonymous texture that says, maybe if they

679
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: had listened to Kevin Bowen, the Colts wouldn't still suck.

680
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: How about that general manager Kevin Bowen?

681
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 6: Well I could.

682
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad Mark's not playing all the audio where I

683
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: didn't speak to fruition there.

684
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: Thank you Mark on that. I'll still stick with the

685
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: Peacock audio.

686
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: Also on the text line, Robbie b still not believing

687
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: in this whole plan, says one of the odds we

688
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: can get Jones to go somewhere else, or will someone

689
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: else even pay him? I can just see us paying

690
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: him and really wishing we didn't later.

691
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: Robbie b your quarterback is Daniel Jones, and you'll like it, Okay.

692
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: I understand seriously though, the trepidation there when it comes

693
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 5: to DJ because he doesn't stay healthy. I think that

694
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: he was pretty good last year, but they're banking a

695
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 5: lot a lot on half a good season from a

696
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 5: guy who's coming off an achilles there. So I understand

697
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: why you might want to pivot. But I'm just telling

698
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 5: you now that is not going to happen. They're not

699
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 5: going to untag him or move on to a different quarterback.

700
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: That's your quarterback.

701
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 5: And I think that's also a big reason why Alec

702
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: Pierce is still in a cult uniforms.

703
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 4: I don't forget that part either.

704
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: All Right, we continue to take some texts at two three, nine,

705
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: ten seventy. We'll do that all morning long. Here's another

706
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: one from Airy Code seven six' five that says that

707
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: Actually Josh downs has the potential to be much better

708
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: than His you should have just been so. Far pittman

709
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: moving hopefully opens a bigger role for him, too downs

710
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: takes the place Of pittman third down. Catches warren is

711
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: the big body like pitt, was and then get pit

712
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: light in the. DRAFT i think my first take on that,

713
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: IS i think we Want Alec pierce to start making

714
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: more third down. Catches and, Yes warren is a big,

715
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: body BUT i do agree with you. Guys you got

716
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: to find a solid number two to take some pressure

717
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: Off Alec, peers.

718
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: Right but that's not at the expensive edge rusher for,

719
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: me WHICH i want to continue to make very clear

720
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: and right. NOW i thought yesterday it was a pretty

721
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: active edge rushing day in free, agency just not really

722
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: with The.

723
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: Colts you, Know ard And key again is a, move

724
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: not the. Move so you.

725
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: Sit here On tuesday, morning it almost Looks Trey hendrickson

726
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: OR i don't want to say, bust but it Looks

727
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: Trey hendrick sinner just a lot.

728
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: Of the rest of the.

729
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: Field, yeah, Yeah and The colts have kind of operated

730
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: with a lot of Dude and some might, say, Hey

731
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: Trey hendrickson's just a dude now at thirty one years

732
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: old coming off hip.

733
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 9: Surgery.

734
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah WHEN i hear hip surgery for a guy who

735
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 4: sold to, me flexible and. Bendar that will be.

736
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 3: A debate wherever he.

737
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: Goes so, again that is a question THAT i have

738
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: coming up here as we get more into day.

739
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Two any moves that were made outside of The colts

740
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: roam that you saw in THE nfl yesterday that you

741
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: had big eyebrows raised or said to, yourself that is

742
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: a monster.

743
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 5: MOVE i Thought Kansas city Getting Kenneth walker was pretty.

744
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 5: Notable they needed some running back. Help and he goes

745
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: from winning a Super bowl Winning Super BOWL mvp to

746
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 5: getting paid and trying to join a team that is

747
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 5: obviously they're staying there to Super bowls and so between

748
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 5: that and also the return Of Travis, kelce those were

749
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 5: the two big ones for.

750
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: Me speaking Of, Travis travis etn out of THE Afc,

751
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: SOUTH i DON'T i don't know if he's on The

752
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: All Colts killer, team but he's definitely had some games

753
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 2: against The. Colts so you go to The, Saints saints

754
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: piece of.

755
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 5: CHANT i think it was like four, years fifty two

756
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 5: million dollars for running, back AND i don't today the, MARKET.

757
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: I don't know Who.

758
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: JACKSON i don't Think jackson necessarily has just a guy

759
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: waiting in the wings, necessarily so you, know that'll be

760
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: something to keep an eye. On AND afc, Southwise tennessee

761
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: really spent which you know largely is to be expected NEW,

762
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: gm you, know YOUNG, gm new head, coach obviously a

763
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: rookie contract with their quarterback, situations So tennessee really was super,

764
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: active specifically.

765
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: On the defensive side of the ball.

766
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: Yesterday anybody more, active more impactful what they're trying to

767
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: do to re revamp the entire thing than The.

768
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: Raiders tennessee is up. There but, yeah The raiders certainly

769
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: spent a. TON i, mean you Mentioned carolina. Earlier you

770
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: know they had you know a bit of a spending

771
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 2: a day. Yesterday so, yeah those are the. Teams and

772
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: again it's to be, expected you know when you have

773
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: the young quarterbacks and we get more into, this, like you,

774
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: know why are The colts in this cap? Situation is

775
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: arden key and upgrade over some of these other you,

776
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: Know quitty, Pay Taekwon, Lewis Samsonavi, ACoM some of those

777
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: guys that are de.

778
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: Partying those are some conversations we can have in the

779
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: eight o'clock, hour.

780
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: All, right coming up at a, moment we will talk

781
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: more about The Indianapolis, colts their plans moving, forward what

782
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: they've done so, far what it all, means and we'll

783
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: give you a little preview of some college basketball coming

784
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: up this week as. Well it's coming up next at

785
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: ninety three five and one oh seven. Five Happy tuesday,

786
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: morning as we get ready for day two of The

787
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: National Football league free Agency that yesterday we Netted Alec.

788
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: Pierce WHEN i say we The Indianapolis, colts the team

789
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: we're paying attention, to four, years one hundred and sixteen million.

790
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: Dollars they Traded Michael Pittman junior to The Pittsburgh. Steelers

791
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: he also got an extension of three, years fifty nine million.

792
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: Dollars they picked up defensive End Arden key who had

793
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: been playing for The. Titans just some of the moves

794
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: they've made over the last couple of, days and now

795
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: we wait to see whether they get a long term

796
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: deal done with Quarterback Daniel. Jones to put it all

797
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: into perspective for us and talk about some things maybe

798
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: we haven't even thought about. Yet our man at The Indie,

799
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: Star joel A, ericson stops by and before we start

800
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: the free agency.

801
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 6: Stuff, JOEL i don't know about.

802
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: YOU i know you were probably busy, yesterday but, MAN

803
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: i enjoyed watching The United states Play mexico in baseball

804
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: at The World Baseball classic last.

805
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 9: Night, Yeah I've i've.

806
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 7: Been watching quite a bit Of World Baseball, classic as

807
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 7: probably doesn't surprise any of you.

808
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 9: Guys but that that's a it's a it.

809
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 7: Was it was nice to, see you, know a game

810
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 7: with the involving THE us Or japan or The Dominican

811
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 7: republic that that you, know got a, little a little

812
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 7: nervy down towards the end because so far in full,

813
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 7: play a lot of their stuff has, been you, know pretty.

814
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 9: Much just run. Away so it was fun to see.

815
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 7: Them get get into a game that they had to

816
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 7: had to buckle down.

817
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: A little bit In, joe do you hate girl?

818
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 9: SCOUTS I i. Was i'm.

819
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 7: Concerned i'm very concerned ABOUT i caught this earlier AND

820
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 7: i didn't Hear james's, comment but it seems like he

821
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 7: has besmirched one of our venerable institutions in this.

822
00:35:51,280 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: COUNTRY i could not, Well.

823
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 5: I'll start with numbers number, one the mints are ash

824
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 5: and number, TWO i have never seen a girl scout

825
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 5: or a boy scout unless they were asking me for,

826
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 5: money WHICH i do. Give that's, Fine But i'm just

827
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 5: saying this is like The Kawhi leonard aspiration tree.

828
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: DEAL i have not seen these trees.

829
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 7: Planted, okay so here's here's the here's the, Question, james

830
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 7: do you know what the Girl scouts And Boy scouts?

831
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 9: General?

832
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: Zero?

833
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 9: Ideally do?

834
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: It your?

835
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: Idea, well a lot.

836
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 9: Of it, is you, know like out in the.

837
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 4: Wilderness oh well, Yeah i'm a city, boy you, know so.

838
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 9: You see?

839
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 7: Them how would you see them doing things if they're

840
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 7: out in the forest somewhere and you.

841
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: Maybe better social media.

842
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: Presence keep, cooking keep, cooking all.

843
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 5: These TikTok, accounts YouTube, accounts YouTube. SHORTS i can't see a,

844
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Speaker 5: video not.

845
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: One Guy, Fieri Ema, Lagassi Joel erson Cooking james right.

846
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 7: Now two of my two of my best friends in

847
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 7: high school were Boy, Scouts Eagle.

848
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 9: Scouts they Became Eagle, scouts and one of The Eagle.

849
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 7: Scout projects was he built A Little league baseball field

850
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 7: in our.

851
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: City oh respect to, Him, now does he like thim?

852
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: Mints because that's WHERE i draw the.

853
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 9: LINE I i like thin.

854
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 7: Min' you're a.

855
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: Human, Being. Joe i'm, sorry to tell you that it

856
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: took me a long term tour as little tutor on.

857
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: Food this little so hight not know.

858
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 9: This I'M i am the one Broadening james's.

859
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 7: Horizons this is. True, uh this is a disappointing opinion

860
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 7: to hear coming across WHEN i HAVE i, have you,

861
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 7: know thin mints.

862
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 9: In the freezer right?

863
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 5: Now, Well, joel but last Thing i'll, SAY i want

864
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 5: to get back to, football is that thin mint's rank

865
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 5: very lowly on my list of things actually want to

866
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 5: eat when it comes to uh being compared To japanessa

867
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 5: out there In, seattle the best RESTAURANT i ever been,

868
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 5: to by the, way that was pretty.

869
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: Good Joel, erickson a man of high high order on

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00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: The Payloff Slickers Hot.

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00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: Life uh, Okay, joe let's go back to.

872
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: YESTERDAY i believe you had some reporting That Alec pierce

873
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: was offered a higher contract.

874
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: Elsewhere is that? Correct?

875
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 9: Yes, YEAH i was TOLD i was told much.

876
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 7: Bigger, sometimes you know YOU i kind of try to

877
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 7: pull back on that a little bit for the for

878
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 7: the extra reporting of, it because you don't know for

879
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 7: sure what that.

880
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 9: Means BUT i was told that.

881
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 7: It was that there was there was a much bigger

882
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 7: offer on the table for him, elsewhere and he decided.

883
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 9: To shoot The.

884
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: Colts why why do you think he decided to turn that?

885
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: Down you, KNOW i long, SAID i think his love

886
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: For Daniel jones IS i don't, know is as known

887
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: AS i think it's. There but you, know maybe outside of,

888
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: that why do you think he said no to more

889
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: money decided to come.

890
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 7: BACK I i think it's partially THAT i don't, KNOW

891
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 7: i was not told who which team it. Was BUT

892
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 7: i think the other thing That i've gotten in conversations

893
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 7: with you, know people On pierce's side over the last

894
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 7: couple of, years it's just that this this is.

895
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 9: A guy who really.

896
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 7: Understands and and and you, know his team really understands

897
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 7: talking about you, know his his you, know agency and,

898
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 7: everything understands how important a quarterback is for just for

899
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 7: for his his whole.

900
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 9: Career the way his whole career has. GONE i know

901
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 9: there was some.

902
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 7: There there was obviously some frustration early where they felt

903
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 7: Like Alex pearce was taking a lot of criticism for

904
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 7: stuff that was maybe not uh not his fault because

905
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 7: he can't catch a ball that's not thrown to him

906
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 7: and SO i do think that that's that that to

907
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 7: me was is one.

908
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 9: Of the things that came up over and over.

909
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 7: Again uh as as they got closer to free, agency

910
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 7: and really even before, that even even in the years before,

911
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 7: that you, know who's who's the quarterback going to?

912
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 8: Be?

913
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 7: Uh LIKE i, SAID i don't know which team tried.

914
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 9: To go above and.

915
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 7: Beyond but that's that's kind of the. Way that's been

916
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 7: a thread now for long, time is who's the quarterbacking to?

917
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 9: Be is it somebody we can?

918
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 5: Trust we have joey ericson the second best cult supporter

919
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 5: From Indy star here on The Payloft stickers.

920
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: Hotline what you just you took a shot at Both

921
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: joel And Kevin oll at the same.

922
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 5: Time stay out of, This, Jeff i'll take a sight

923
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 5: at you. Too at this, Point i'll find everybody But

924
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 5: joe Side. Joel when it when you look at what

925
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 5: needs to happen next for this cold, group how important

926
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 5: do you think it is to reach a long term

927
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 5: deal rather quickly With Daniel? Jones because, yes they can

928
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 5: wait UNTIL i Believe july fifteenth to reach a long term,

929
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 5: deal but By july, fifteenth you want to be able

930
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 5: to build your roster a lot more than you have so.

931
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 7: Far, WELL i THINK i think the biggest thing is

932
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 7: it just makes everything easy from a cap, standpoint because you,

933
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 7: know a lot of the stuff that's happened so far

934
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 7: does not affect the cap until after four Pm, wednesday

935
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 7: and so all of that stuff is it kind of

936
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 7: being held, out you, know being held back until that.

937
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 7: Happens but you, know the one big deal that that

938
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 7: did go on the.

939
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 9: Cap immediately Was Daniel jones being.

940
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 7: Tagged if you get him to a long term, extension,

941
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 7: uh that cap charge goes, away and it just makes

942
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 7: things a lot easier for The colts in terms of

943
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 7: how they can operate what they're going to.

944
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 9: Do so so that's that's the biggest.

945
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 7: Thing is it just It there's if they don't reach

946
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 7: a deal With, jones The colts have a plan in.

947
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 7: Place i've been told to get under the cap AND

948
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 7: i don't, think based on what's out, there that that

949
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 7: would be all that. Difficult it's probably just involved some

950
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 7: restructuring that kind of. Thing but they they the easiest

951
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 7: way to do it is just to get a deal

952
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 7: With jones and make get that first year of the

953
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 7: contract firmed down and get that and really get that

954
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 7: that transition tag, off that transition tag figure off of the,

955
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 7: cap so that that that's the kind of STUFF i

956
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 7: think that would make that deal that the most important

957
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 7: in terms of what they can do for the rest of.

958
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: It joy ericson joining us on the paylost lookers hotline right,

959
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: NOW i think we all kind of agree that The

960
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: colts still need an edge, rusher a, linebacker maybe a

961
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: number two wide receiver moving. Forward how much of that

962
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: is left for the cults and free agency and how

963
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: much do they say to, themselves you, know we can

964
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: get those players in the.

965
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 7: DRAFT i, MEAN i think it's mostly the edge rusher.

966
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 7: Piece it's mostly the edge rusher. Piece JB's i'm WITH

967
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 7: kb on. This Trey hendrickson feels like really the biggest. Guy,

968
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 7: honestly a lot of the guys that went yesterday in free,

969
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 7: agency and a lot of the names that went off

970
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 7: yesterday in free agency kind of felt, like you, KNOW

971
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 7: i don't know if that player is going to be.

972
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 9: An impact player for that.

973
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 7: Team in the same, way linebacker is interesting BECAUSE i

974
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 7: think linebacker you have to be very careful with how

975
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 7: you invest that if you're going to sign a free,

976
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 7: agent you have to be very very careful with how

977
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 7: you invest, that because they want to get younger and, faster,

978
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 7: right they want to get younger and, faster specifically at

979
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 7: that position they traded Away, zy You're. Franklin, well free

980
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 7: agents generally are not younger. Players they're they're you, know

981
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 7: there are some players coming off their rookie, deal but

982
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 7: they're not younger, players they're not faster, players and so

983
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 7: you gotta be really really careful with how you invest. That,

984
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 7: like for, Instance Kay, walker who The raiders signed, yesterday

985
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 7: is a guy who if you look at his coverage,

986
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 7: stats he looks a lot like a lot like Another

987
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 7: Franklin and SO i think that's one of those things

988
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 7: that you have to be careful. With it's it's a

989
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 7: defensive end, position and the young guys are kind of

990
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 7: off the, board the guys THAT i kind of think

991
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 7: of As Chris ballard's you, know best work in free

992
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 7: agency over the years with defensive linemen coming off their rookie.

993
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 7: Deal there's probably a few of those guys out, there

994
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 7: but the biggest names are off the, board and THAT i.

995
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 9: Think the other thing is just with defensive.

996
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 7: Coordinator lu and it's it's really hard not to to

997
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 7: imagine the fit With Trey, hendrickson just because we saw

998
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 7: last Year Luenna rumo likes the guys he's coached.

999
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: BEFORE i think you're kind of hitting at it with

1000
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 3: that answer, There. Joel but if you could.

1001
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: Rank wide OUT dn linebacker in terms of the need

1002
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: in your eyes right now.

1003
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 7: From a free agency, STANDPOINT i would GO dn for,

1004
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 7: sure and Then I'M i might go wide receiver.

1005
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: LINEBACKER i just think if what a big drop it

1006
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: sounds like from one to the next.

1007
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 7: Two, YEAH i have to look at the linebacker. LIST

1008
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 7: i Think Bobby ocaka might still be out. There but

1009
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 7: LIKE i my biggest thing with linebacker is the gold

1010
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 7: there is to get, faster AND i need to know

1011
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 7: for sure that you're doing that because that's a position

1012
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 7: that as guys, age they tend to not have the

1013
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 7: same speed that they had coming out that kind of

1014
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 7: that type of they don't have the same. RANGE a

1015
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 7: lot of the guys that are in free agency or

1016
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 7: guys that you're, like, oh you know that's the guy

1017
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 7: that is kind of a run, stopper who doesn't you,

1018
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 7: know play the pass all that well and wide.

1019
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 9: Receiver you.

1020
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 7: KNOW I i ULTIMATELY i Think Michael pittman's production is

1021
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 7: not going to be replaced by one. GUY i think

1022
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 7: that the guy who might benefit most Is Tyler. Warrens

1023
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 7: if you get a step forward From Tyler warren in

1024
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 7: in some of those, AREAS i think that cover that

1025
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 7: that might end.

1026
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 9: Up he might end up being the the number one

1027
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 9: possession type receiver for The colts next. Year.

1028
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 7: Uh and SO i think that maybe that that position

1029
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 7: you can, add you, know, somebody somebody in free, agency

1030
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 7: somebody in the, draft but not necessarily big, investments and

1031
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 7: find a way to work around.

1032
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: That.

1033
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: Joel last one from, me and maybe it is more

1034
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: directed at the man who hates The Girl scouts as

1035
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: much As Mark dychen hates The.

1036
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: Hackers that would Be James.

1037
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: Boyd but just passing this along courtesy of our Esteem

1038
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: noon To three, Hosts Jake.

1039
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: Querry he.

1040
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: Goes The Girl scouts are originally led by First Lady,

1041
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: hoover the wife Of Herbert, hoover who was send it

1042
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: to the president presidency after being The Federal director on

1043
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: ENDING Us.

1044
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 4: Hunger that is such A jake.

1045
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: Thing so the frigid.

1046
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: Take Of james boy how are you putting it on

1047
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: the Girl? Scouts is there my fault continuing to be ice.

1048
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 5: Cold i'm just saying, again back in the day they

1049
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 5: didn't have. TikTok they have it. NOW i want to

1050
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 5: see somebody's worked That i'm paying for with these.

1051
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 9: Cookies you wouldn't look at those.

1052
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 5: TikTok the algorithm is not showing me a Girl scout

1053
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: cookies or Girl scouts or Boy scouts for that.

1054
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: Matter that's probably a good.

1055
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: Thing JOEL usa or the field in The World Baseball, Classic.

1056
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 9: I'm gonna take The.

1057
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 7: Japan japan has such an advantage because they're playing this

1058
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 7: season right in the middle of It.

1059
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 9: Venezuela you, KNOW i think i'd have to go. Field, REALLY.

1060
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: I trust your, opinion ALTHOUGH i don't agree with, that

1061
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: but much, much much more of an agreeable take than

1062
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: Or James boyd's coming from here on.

1063
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 9: THIS i still LIKE i still like the USA's.

1064
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 7: CHANCES i like what they've got there for The you,

1065
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 7: know that roster and that lineup is so deep that

1066
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 7: it feels like with the, pitch the pitching limits they

1067
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 7: have in terms of guys can't throw. Forever you can't just,

1068
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 7: like you, know Throw yamamoto out, there let him go

1069
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 7: for nine. Innings it feels like eventually THE us is

1070
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 7: going to get.

1071
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 9: Runs but the those those other, three the other three TEAMS.

1072
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 7: I, Mentioned, Venezuela Dominican, Republic, japan those lineups are are

1073
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 7: so deep and so good THAT i, think you, know

1074
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 7: if it's if IT'S us or the. Field my, Numerically

1075
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 7: i've got to take the field just because there's a

1076
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 7: chance that there's a chance that you get you, know

1077
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 7: say Say, venezuela say The contreras brothers get, Hot acuna

1078
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 7: hits a, Homer churio got a double in a. Triple

1079
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 7: the next thing you, know you're in a hole and

1080
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 7: you just kind of lose one, game you, know and

1081
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 7: that's that's that's to, Me, venezuela it's like the third

1082
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 7: of the three TEAMS i. Mentioned so, yeah NUMERICALLY i

1083
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 7: kind of have to go with the field.

1084
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 6: THERE i like.

1085
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: It but, Man i'm looking at those top seven hitters

1086
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: just in the game last, Night Bobby Wood, Junior Bryce,

1087
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: Harper Aaron, Judge Kyle, Schwerber Alex, bregman Cal, Raley Roman, Anthony, like,

1088
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: hello you're, right they're going to score.

1089
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 6: Runs, Man, yeah.

1090
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 9: They're they're gonna score. Runs and it's it's it's. BASEBALL i,

1091
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 9: MEAN i, uh this is a callback to the last

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Speaker 9: TIME i was. On BUT i don't know if you

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Speaker 9: guys saw this this.

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Speaker 7: Morning or overnight or whenever THEY'RE.

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Speaker 9: I think it's this. MORNING i Think japan's playing this.

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Speaker 7: Morning uh, My my Hero Andre storria from The Czech

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Speaker 7: republic got a standing ovation in in the middle of

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Speaker 7: THE jaf The japan game because he pitted three point

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Speaker 7: three and two third scoreless innings against The japanese. Lineup

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Speaker 7: that's our electrician From chechia who struck Out otani last.

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Speaker 9: Time and that's the thing about baseball is one, game one,

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Speaker 9: appearance it can.

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Speaker 7: Go it doesn't work the same way As that's why

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Speaker 7: the play so many.

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Speaker 9: Games that's why you have.

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Speaker 7: To have seven game, series because over the course of one,

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Speaker 7: game kind of anything can.

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Speaker 1: HAPPEN i Got, joel thanks as always for not only

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Speaker 1: your detailed interest and expertise in, baseball but certainly your

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Speaker 1: takes on The Indianapolis cults And day two And day

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Speaker 1: three should be pretty interesting as, WELL i would.

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Speaker 6: Think so we'll talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 6: Soon need Need.

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Speaker 9: James to put some respect on the Girl scott's.

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Speaker 5: Name, joel don't don't ever try to sell me some

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Speaker 5: thin mint coaches oach in our.

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Speaker 2: Friendship trust the character Of Joeli erickson Or James, boyd

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Speaker 2: the guy who's with you every. MORNINGS i don't see

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Speaker 2: him getting up at a real tough debate, there you,

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Speaker 2: know Debate rowan.

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Speaker 4: Winners.

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Speaker 1: Baby Brian lafayette not afraid to get down in the

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Speaker 1: gutter with you, either he, says LOVE. Jb but your

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Speaker 1: take on thin mints is as bad as your dad's

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Speaker 1: taste in football.

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Speaker 5: Teams, yeah fair, Enough pops has been down bad with The,

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Speaker 5: raiders BUT i would argue that The raiders and thin

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Speaker 5: men's go hand in.

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Speaker 9: Hand