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Speaker 1: Is this us?

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Speaker 2: This is what you chose to come back in.

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Speaker 3: Carl told me this was Howard Stern's theme song on nine.

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Speaker 2: Oh in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Pete, all right, so producer Carl's with us, and Carl's

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Speaker 1: with us because he is the Howard Stern expert. You

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Speaker 1: worked for many years for E Entertainment Television and your

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Speaker 1: job was doing stuff with the Howard Stern TV show

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Speaker 1: that was on that network.

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Speaker 3: Well, I actually went into TV because of Howard Stern.

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Speaker 2: Like you saw him and you were like, I want

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Speaker 2: to be by that guy.

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Speaker 3: I was working in LA and nobody knew about the

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Speaker 3: Howard Stern Show, and they Howard was their number one show,

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Speaker 3: and they basically recruited me to work there to explain

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Speaker 3: this show to them.

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Speaker 1: What did you do? We'll get down because a lot

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Speaker 1: of news with Howard Stern, We'll get What did you

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Speaker 1: do for E and the Howard Stern Enterprises?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I worked in their video library

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Speaker 3: and we would receive all of his isotapes of isolated

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Speaker 3: cashot and it would be actually produced in LA and

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Speaker 3: nobody knew who any of these people were, so I

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Speaker 3: had a log of who all these people were. And

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Speaker 3: I logged the show.

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Speaker 2: In LA sounds dreadfully painful. Carl, And one of the.

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Speaker 3: Things I got to do is watch Howard every single

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Speaker 3: night at E You got paid to do that.

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Speaker 2: I got paid. That was my Well that is pretty cool, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean some guy was digging a ditch somewhere and

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Speaker 1: you're like, you're complaining about Carl getting paid to watch TV.

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Speaker 1: All right, so you're here because the big news on

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Speaker 1: Stern is that is it serious?

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Speaker 2: XM? There one thing?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, now, sirius XM. His contract is over this fall.

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Speaker 2: With satellite radio and they said you done zo.

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Speaker 5: Well no, they said that they're going to offer him

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Speaker 5: something else.

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Speaker 2: Oh like a janitorial position.

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Speaker 4: No, like they're going to offer him another contract. He

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Speaker 4: has come out and said that it's it's not worth

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Speaker 4: the investment.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Carl, I put it to you like an animal.

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Speaker 1: So I put it to you, Greg. I just think

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Speaker 1: we have ps that era of an individual dude being

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Speaker 1: able to dominate the airwaves and revenue to the point

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Speaker 1: that it's worth paying the the eight figure contracts. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you know this industry, you studied the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: What's that you well, it's it's not worth what he's

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Speaker 3: doing at serious XM, because like, why would I pay

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Speaker 3: for radio when I can get it for free?

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Speaker 1: That's always been the argument, isn't it is? Because remember

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Speaker 1: it's been twenty years ago that Stern went to two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six, So the argument was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: now he'll be able to say all the words that

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Speaker 1: you know he couldn't say before, do all this, and

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Speaker 1: it's like part of the charm as a teenager growing

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Speaker 1: up listening to Howard Stern, because let's face it, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't he kind of cater to at like young dudes.

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Speaker 2: Is it that he basically raised me Rob? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when I was sixteen young?

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Speaker 1: And people will forget that. Howard sterned for a very

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Speaker 1: brief period of time, was on Indianapolis airwaves on this Freequincy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was ninety three one.

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Speaker 1: When it was the Buzzard and he made a bit

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Speaker 1: that was a huge hooplaw that he was coming in

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Speaker 1: to compete with Bob and Tom. He had said when

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Speaker 2: And he got smoked.

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Speaker 1: I mean he it was a dumpster fire because his

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Speaker 1: show just doesn't translate.

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Speaker 5: Didn't resonate with the listeners to the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: It's just not a midwe Bob and Tom were great

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Speaker 1: because they were funny, they were talented. They had guys

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Speaker 1: with this coast stuff and people were just like, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of good. But the point of all this was

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Speaker 1: the idea of listening to him as a young dude, was.

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Speaker 2: He shouldn't be saying that he's got to get in

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Speaker 2: big trouble. You can't do that in public eras.

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Speaker 1: And once he went to Satelle, we're gonna do what

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Speaker 1: everyone it was like, Oh, it's just some old guys.

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Speaker 5: I didn't have to tiptoe around the language.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so part of the fun was, oh, my gosh,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe he said that.

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Speaker 1: Right, But if you're not governed by any there's no

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Speaker 1: fcc him pushing the bound as a young guy, you

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Speaker 1: were like, I want to I want to be that

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Speaker 2: Pushes the boundaries. And then if there's no boundaries, he.

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Speaker 3: Was literally the super alpha male on the radio. He

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Speaker 3: was the one that brought in the women, told off

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Speaker 3: the man. He was the guy that got away with stuff,

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Speaker 3: and he fizzled out in his old age.

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Speaker 1: This sounds ridiculous to say, but I say all sorts

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Speaker 1: of things about my life that are ridiculous. The movie

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Speaker 1: what year did Private Parts come out?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety six, ninety seven.

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Speaker 5: March seventh, nineteen ninety seven, Oh you know, well, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's on the tip is on the tippy. Where did

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Speaker 2: you have to look it up?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: You and I were texting about it, like, oh so

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Speaker 5: you got that?

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Speaker 2: And I looked it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so nineteen ninety seven, I would have been

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Speaker 1: in the seventh grade. And I've said for a long

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Speaker 1: time that my dream since I was a little kid

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Speaker 2: I no offense casey my dream. I was doing it

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Speaker 2: by myself. But you can the fine addition to the

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Speaker 1: But like that movie, and I remember seeing it for

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Speaker 1: the first time on a channel that we weren't supposed

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Speaker 1: to get, and it would have been after my parents

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Speaker 1: were sleep and watching that movie, and that movie changed

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Speaker 1: my life. Like seeing that and I know now, like

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Speaker 1: when you're in the seventh grade, you don't know what's

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Speaker 1: bull crap and what's not. You think it's all real.

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Speaker 1: You thought pig vomit was the real guy that Paul giamix.

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Speaker 1: But you see the like I want to be that

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Speaker 1: Like that movie changed changed my life. What happened to Howard.

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Speaker 3: Stern completely sold out. And it was a puzzle because

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Speaker 3: when Donald Trump ran in twenty sixteen, he was like

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Speaker 3: just like Howard, was it the need to be liked.

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Speaker 3: He when he divorced his wife, that was the end

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Speaker 4: Part of that was because the shocking things that he

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Speaker 5: But you knew he's actually a married guy.

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Speaker 4: He's going home to his wife and his kids, and

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Speaker 4: you were kind of in on that, right this Carls

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Speaker 4: right the second that that ended, that whole charade fell apart.

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Speaker 3: He was no longer the regular guy. He was the

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Speaker 1: He probably was making because then the whole other thing

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Speaker 1: is like it's out of sight, out of mind. Money

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Speaker 1: can give you comfort, but so many people don't have

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Speaker 1: satellite radio, or if you do have satellite radio, there's

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Speaker 2: He he was.

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Speaker 4: Well, he was supposed to be the big talent to

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Speaker 4: make you want serious ExM. I mean they paid him

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Speaker 4: a groundbreaking five hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: How much money you think do you think they lost

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Speaker 1: money on that deal? Do you think people enough people

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Speaker 1: got satellite radio because Howard they getting?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But did it.

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Speaker 3: Last there was only serious and ExM and because of

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Speaker 3: Howard they merged.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So the thing that I like, he interviewed Biden last

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Speaker 2: I think he did. He did Biden when Mia was

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Speaker 2: still was still running.

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Speaker 1: He talked while Biden sat there, right that he did that,

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Speaker 1: He did interview Kamala, And it's like, what happened to you?

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Speaker 2: And now you're just some old.

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Speaker 1: Angry leftist guy who clearly has some sort of internal misery.

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Speaker 1: And it was just like it's so it's so awful

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Speaker 1: to watch the heroes of your youth hobble away and me.

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern is just some angry guy who hoppled into

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Speaker 1: the sunset.

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Speaker 4: So his time was up a while ago. He should

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Speaker 4: have ended it sooner and gone out on top.

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Speaker 2: You're the superfan, Carl, I think you're. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean he disppeared from my life. You know, twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago he went to satellite radio.

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Speaker 2: Career is because of Howard Stern.

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Speaker 3: I got the job at E because I knew the

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Speaker 3: subject and they said, you need to work for us.

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Speaker 2: So like when you were younger, you just sat around

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Speaker 2: and listened to Stern every day.

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Speaker 3: I was in boarding school in New Jersey and I

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Speaker 3: picked them up out of Philadelphia's When.

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Speaker 5: Was the last time you listened to a show?

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Speaker 3: When I left LA in twenty fourteen, I'm like, I'm.

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Speaker 5: I can't afford satellite radio anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Carl, thank you, thank you,