WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Jones Angell Interview 

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk some tar heels baby uh what a showcase

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<v Speaker 2>game this is um but it's a tough one that

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<v Speaker 2>comes with the showcase game notre dame noon on espn

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<v Speaker 2>and of course i know what the tar heel fans

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna do they're gonna turn the sound down and

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna listen to our next guest jones angel call

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<v Speaker 2>at 11 a.m pregame on the tar heel radio network

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<v Speaker 2>for the noon start and of course in charlotte Listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Tar Heel Radio Network on our sister station, WBT.

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<v Speaker 2>Jones Angel is the voice of the Heels. Jones, what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, man? How are you feeling this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing great, guys. Good to be back with you, as always. And, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what a challenge this weekend. I just think in getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready for Notre Dame some this week, man, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a really, really good football team, really complete, just not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of weaknesses. They check every box. And, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably the best team Carolina's played this

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this, guys. Maybe back to 2019

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<v Speaker 1>when Clemson came in, number.

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<v Speaker 3>One, Trevor Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that game where Carolina went for two with

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<v Speaker 1>about two minutes left with that really young team. That

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<v Speaker 1>was Mack Brown's first year of his second tenure. Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Howell was the freshman QB that year, and he'll fail

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<v Speaker 1>on the two-point play, lost 21-20. But this is a

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<v Speaker 1>national championship contender for sure in Notre Dame. And so

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<v Speaker 1>for Carolina, obviously the Heels are better. Obviously the Heels

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<v Speaker 1>are not a national championship contender at this moment. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not a finished product. And so it'll be a good

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for them to see where they stand and try

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<v Speaker 1>to compete with one of the very best in the

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<v Speaker 1>country this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Jones, for so long the question about Notre Dame was

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<v Speaker 4>can they ever get back to national title contention. And

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<v Speaker 4>you said right there, they're in that mix. What do

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<v Speaker 4>you think it is about Marcus Freeman and what he's

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<v Speaker 4>found and what he's done for the program that has

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<v Speaker 4>put them back on that level?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they played for, what, two years ago? So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've been there here recently for sure. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know they missed the playoffs kind of controversially last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously had a very good team. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>totally my opinion. Obviously, I'm looking at this from a

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<v Speaker 1>far perspective. But one thing that impressed me about Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 1>and what I think is the right way to do it, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's a lot easier to do it when you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing at the level that Notre Dame is financially, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>is they've stayed consistent with their team. And by that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean their roster stayed pretty consistent. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>their roster, for the most part, not exclusively, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, these are guys who have been in

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<v Speaker 1>their program for multiple years. And then what you do is, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what? We really feel like we need to

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<v Speaker 1>go get a quality– cornerback. Well, then they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into the transfer portal and they'll go get, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a DJ McKinney, who's going to be a start, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>started multiple years at Colorado and then they bring them

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<v Speaker 1>in and now he's going to start for them. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think the way they've been able to build

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<v Speaker 1>their roster again, much easier said than done when you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing at that financial level is the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way to be, in my opinion, the most

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<v Speaker 1>successful in this very turbulent time of college athletics. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they have a lot of guys back. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be the number one thing. And this isn't breaking news

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<v Speaker 1>that they've got talent. And so when you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys back and they're talented players and they've

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<v Speaker 1>been in your system a couple of years now and

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<v Speaker 1>they've kind of naturally moved up from, hey, a backup

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm the starter and now I'm starting two years

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<v Speaker 1>in a row or whatever it might be, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good formula. And I think you see it working

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<v Speaker 1>for Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so speaking of formula, we do this thing, Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>every Thursday for the Panthers, a victory formula. Sometimes the

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<v Speaker 2>team goes out and does those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they do not.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't they just listen to you every week?

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<v Speaker 3>That would be so much easier. It's unbelievable. They might sometimes, Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable. So I want to ask you, like there's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Carolina's a three touchdown underdog.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>You've just talked about how good they are and what

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<v Speaker 2>makes Notre Dame so good. What are the things Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>needs to do to like, I think all you want

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<v Speaker 2>right late middle of the fourth quarter, you're right there

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<v Speaker 2>with a chance to win. How could they make that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one is you cannot beat yourself. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>when you see these games Notre Dame has played this year,

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<v Speaker 1>two of them, Rice and Purdue, they just ran away from.

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State and Wisconsin were competitive games into the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>And in each of those instances, there was a key

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<v Speaker 1>mistake by the opposition. In fact, I think, guys, they

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<v Speaker 1>were both interceptions that really flipped the game. And Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame just jumped all over the mistake. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot have a pick six. You cannot have a punt

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<v Speaker 1>that gets blocked. You cannot have... a 50-yard game that

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<v Speaker 1>gets called back because of a hold or something. So

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot beat yourself. That's number one. And then for Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think the Tar Heels have proven here through

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<v Speaker 1>the first couple of weeks they've got a solid run game.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a solid defense. You've got to lean on

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<v Speaker 1>those a little bit. You've got to lower the possessions

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. You need to possess the football as

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<v Speaker 1>best you can, move the chains, kind of all that

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<v Speaker 1>boring stuff. But I think if you do those things–

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<v Speaker 1>That gives Carolina a chance to be in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, you get into the mid.

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<v Speaker 3>To late third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's early fourth quarter and it's 21-17 or it's 24-7,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever. Then all of a sudden it becomes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, a different situation. So got to play clean

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<v Speaker 1>football and you got to rely on your strengths in

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<v Speaker 1>this game if you're Carolina.

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<v Speaker 4>Jones, when you look at the start for the Heels,

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<v Speaker 4>the schedule getting tougher here starting with Notre Dame in

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<v Speaker 4>the next couple weeks, in your mind, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>view now as a successful season at the end? If

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<v Speaker 4>there's a number they get to, would you say, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good season for the Heels?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anything's changed in that regard for Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>just because it had a bad second half against Clemson

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<v Speaker 1>a couple weeks ago. I think it continues to be

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<v Speaker 1>can Carolina show progress? Can this be a team that's

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<v Speaker 1>getting better? Can this be a bowl-level team? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>get into that area by the end of the season? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, I mean, Notre Dame, Miami's coming soon.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina goes to Pitt next weekend. Pitt's had a great

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<v Speaker 1>start to the season. So there are plenty of roadblocks

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<v Speaker 1>along that journey for Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's the improvement. I think it's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Consistency, which you have seen to this point. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you see it for another nine weeks for Carolina as

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<v Speaker 1>the competition ratchets up week in and week out? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the most important thing for the Tar Heels

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Jones what do you think about the quarterback situation Belichick

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<v Speaker 2>did say this week hey it's going to be Edwards

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<v Speaker 2>we talked to you about it last week and you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of discussed you know O'Neill Burgess the young freshman

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<v Speaker 2>do you think this game in particular is one where

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<v Speaker 2>there will be a shorter leash on Edwards or do

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<v Speaker 2>you not feel like like in this game would be

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<v Speaker 2>the time they would make a change.

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<v Speaker 1>It does feel like a challenging game to make a

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<v Speaker 1>change just because of the level of the opponent that

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing. And guys, I mean, I think also you

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<v Speaker 1>look through Bill Belichick's long, successful tenure and he's not

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<v Speaker 1>one to just kind of willy-nilly change the quarterback or

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<v Speaker 1>be flipping guys back and forth and, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>to try something different. He really, in my opinion, seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be, okay, you know, we've decided this is our

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<v Speaker 1>guy for now.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, let's move forward with this. How do we

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<v Speaker 3>make it?

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<v Speaker 1>How are we best successful with the situation that we're

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<v Speaker 1>currently in? That doesn't mean that he's not open to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just doesn't seem, if you look through the

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<v Speaker 1>history of his coaching career, to be a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>just going to change it just to change it.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it feels.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a challenging week to do that. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, Carolina needs to win games. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to do. That's what they're there to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I do feel as though if that's what

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<v Speaker 1>is best, he's going.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because one thing about Bill Belichick, guys, all he cares

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<v Speaker 1>about is trying to win the game.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't care if it's 63-62 or 3-2.

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<v Speaker 1>He just wants to try and win the game. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think ultimately, while he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>reckless about it, I think he will make the decision

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just going to best give his team a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jones, always good talking to you, brother. Pretty

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<v Speaker 2>soon we'll be getting, you know, we might tail end

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<v Speaker 2>the football season. We'll get a little bit of hoops.

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<v Speaker 2>into these conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina plays a week from today or a week from

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow they have an exhibition uh a week from tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and in greensboro against usc it's crazy how fast it's

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<v Speaker 1>all it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is crazy heck we got um media day here basketball

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<v Speaker 2>media day uh coming to charlotte.

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<v Speaker 4>Virginia and vanderbilt are playing outside on sunday coming up this.

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<v Speaker 1>Week they already played yeah They've already played outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they did that already? Okay, I missed that one.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was last weekend, so it's wild. Already here.

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<v Speaker 3>I missed that one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost go time, baby. All right, well, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you about that pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, you've got to know somebody to know somebody to

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<v Speaker 4>get to score these games.

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<v Speaker 3>That is true, though. That's a secret, Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't be able to tell us anything, will you?

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<v Speaker 3>Let us know, Jones. Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 1>These are wide open. We're broadcasting that game.

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<v Speaker 3>Tickets available. Carolina, USC, and Greensboro.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there TV on that one? I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to promote your radio network.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there is, Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, all three games... Carolina plays three exhibitions this year.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got that one. They play Indiana in Indianapolis, and

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<v Speaker 3>they play Charlotte with Wes Miller. Oh, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming to the Smith Center. All three will be televised,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got all three on the radio network as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jones, bring in the info, man. All right, Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>have fun calling this one on Saturday, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk to you next week.