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Speaker 1: Baby Riddell from the Purdue Radio Network will join us

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Speaker 1: in just a second. But before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: this is not a huge surprise obviously, but and you

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Speaker 1: imposter or parody site. But Yahoo's Sports reporting the following

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Speaker 1: it is starting to seem inevitable that Colt's quarterback Anthony

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Speaker 1: they plan to move forward with Daniel Jones as their

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback when he can return from a torn achilles

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Speaker 1: That from Stephen Holder, by the way, who will join us,

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Speaker 1: So technically as Stephen Holder is reporting it, Stephen going

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Speaker 1: to join us on the program coming up today, So

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Speaker 1: that'll give us something to talk about. Richardson, of course,

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Speaker 1: the number four overall pick in the draft in the

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Speaker 1: would be a sharp pivot away from that, although obviously

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Speaker 1: we think that's going to be the case, and that's

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Speaker 1: the yin and yang becomes. Do you credit Chris Ballard

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Speaker 1: for having the presence of mind and the wherewithal and

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Speaker 1: the vision to get Daniel Jones and go away from that,

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Speaker 1: drafting as a coach general manager in his decade of

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Speaker 1: doing so, that is a swing of the miss. So

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Speaker 1: it just depends on which way you want to look

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Speaker 1: at it. Tonight, Perdue at Michigan, the number one team

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Speaker 1: in the land, the Wolverines joining us now from the

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Speaker 1: Perdue Basketball Radio Network. Bobby Ordelle is the color commentator

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Speaker 1: and analyst for Purdue.

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Speaker 2: A big one tonight.

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Speaker 1: Bobby and I look at Michigan and I say, this

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Speaker 1: is a real challenge, notably for the bigs for Purdue

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Speaker 1: because it seems as so that's Michigan's bread and butter.

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Speaker 2: Am I off base in that analysis?

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, thanks for having me on awesome you know

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Speaker 3: game here today at MCCARRENA.

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Speaker 4: Really excited for this matchup.

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Speaker 3: I think you're pretty spot on that front court for

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Speaker 3: Michigan and certainly very imposing. Having a guy like Yoxall Lindenberg,

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Speaker 3: you know, six', eight six' nine playing that small forward

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Speaker 3: position at his size, and physicality definitely imposing when you

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Speaker 3: combine That With marez johnson and that power forward In

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Speaker 4: AT center, i mean that's how.

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Speaker 3: They start they, don't play, you know a ton of

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Speaker 3: minutes together in, each game but that's how, they start

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Speaker 3: and all three of those guys averaging more than seven

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Speaker 3: or more rebounds, per game all averaging more than one

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Speaker 3: so yes this front court is elite to say the

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Speaker 3: least For this michigan team And. For purdue they've got

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Speaker 3: a great front court in their, own right certainly at

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Speaker 3: least a true traditional front court with the center and power.

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Speaker 3: Forward position when you Think About oscar Kluff And Trey

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Speaker 3: londenbergh to be that guy who's guarding one of produced.

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Speaker 3: Perimeter players, you Know hopefully purdue can maybe use their

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Speaker 4: On them but going to.

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Speaker 3: Be Fascinating, can purdue, you know rebound and hold their

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Speaker 4: As well so can't wait to see.

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Speaker 1: When we Look at purdue and, you know winners are four,

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Speaker 1: NEBRASKA'S big i think Going to iowa and winning that,

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Speaker 1: really good win that people don't give them enough. Credit

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Speaker 1: for but they had the three game, losing skid, you

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Speaker 1: know With, WITH illinois Ucla in indiana before getting back

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Speaker 1: on the right side. Of, things bobby what's been the

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Speaker 3: GOOD question, I mean i think some of it has.

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Speaker 4: It's a make or myths, game.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes, You, know jake Like the illinois team shot an

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Speaker 3: extremely High level perdue was phenomenal offensively in their own right.

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Speaker 3: That game but it was just kind of a Situation

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Speaker 4: Your Cap keeping logler obviously with the forty six.

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Speaker 3: Was phenomenal that game was kind of more an anomaly,

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Speaker 3: That game the other, two losses CERTAINLY from UCLA and,

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Speaker 3: Iu perspective purdue just did not really shoot the ball well.

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Speaker 3: Iu purdue had a lot, of turnovers did Not match

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Speaker 3: indiana's intensity, and physicality especially in that.

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Speaker 4: First half that played. A PART. Against ucla produce shot

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Speaker 3: Bad, from three even though they Out rebounded ucla had

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Speaker 3: I think, You know nebraska was a great sign from

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Speaker 4: A way to pull out. The victory and then, You know.

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Speaker 3: Iowa was just kind of a standpoint of prew shot the,

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Speaker 4: The glass that was.

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Speaker 3: Probably produced the best forty minute effort that we've had

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Speaker 3: was PROBABLY an ncaa. Tournament team so to go in

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Speaker 3: there and win, like that it is. Certainly impressive You

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Speaker 3: think michigan is going to go thereyla a little later on,

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Speaker 3: was able to pull off the upset in, that One,

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Speaker 3: because perdue if they want to have any chance Of

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Speaker 3: A big, ten title they're going to happen to only

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Speaker 3: win this, game tonight but Also hope michigan slits up

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Speaker 1: Way bobby when you Look at purdue over the totality of, the,

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Speaker 2: Is there?

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Speaker 1: A complaint did they fall victim a little bit there?

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Speaker 1: To complacency in, other words they have been so good for,

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Speaker 1: so long and this program has been at an. ELITE

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Speaker 1: their mojo so, to speak and has to just kind

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Speaker 1: of get behind closed doors and figure some things out

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Speaker 4: Oh i. DON'T know, i mean that's certainly an.

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Speaker 3: Interesting question it's it's one where it's hard to know,

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Speaker 3: for sure Just because i'm not in that locker room and,

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Speaker 3: each guy, is, Differently right each, guy's. Different right, you

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Speaker 3: know they all handle, the ends the ups and downs of,

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Speaker 4: FORMER fashion i do think.

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Speaker 3: There could be some validity to the fact that, you

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Speaker 4: FLETCHER lawyer, i mean the team's going to go as, they,

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Speaker 3: To think that they're not always going to have their absolute,

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Speaker 3: In the, indiana game those guys didn't bring it to

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Speaker 3: you could end up taking. A LOFT and i think

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Speaker 3: a lot of the rest of the team is going

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Speaker 4: Those struggles but it's hard, to Know right sometimes guys

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Speaker 4: Their mind you just never know what these college players

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Speaker 2: Day out that's the Voice Of.

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Speaker 1: Bobby riddell you will hear him on the broadcast Tonight

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Speaker 1: between Purdue. And michigan bobby is On The Java house colbrew.

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Speaker 1: kaupman renn is, a PLAYER and i don't know him

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Speaker 1: matt Painter and. Purdue need But With oscar, kleff there

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Speaker 1: it seemed as though that threw him off kilter just

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Speaker 1: his role, this year and that has led to some

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Speaker 1: dip and then. Crest again an inconsistency is that a

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Speaker 1: fair Assessment Of Trey, Kaufman, REHN.

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Speaker 4: Yeah i think that's.

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Speaker 3: TOTALLY fair i think it's been a huge adjustment for him, this,

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Speaker 3: year probably, you know the guy on this team that's

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Speaker 3: had to go through the biggest adjustment of anybody compared

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Speaker 3: to how things went. Last season, last year he was

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Speaker 3: in a position that allowed for substantial usage on the.

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Speaker 3: Offensive end he was in a position where he was

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Speaker 3: put in a lot of positive positions to score the

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Speaker 3: basketball Considering how purdue played offensively with the other players.

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Speaker 3: Around him and like, you said all of, a sudden

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Speaker 3: you Throw In oscar Cluff And daniel jacobson into, the

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Speaker 3: fold and those guys are playing the center Position alongside

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Speaker 3: trey the majority of, the game game in and, Game

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Speaker 3: out and neither one of those guys are, you know

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Speaker 3: elite three point shooters or even three point shooters. In

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Speaker 3: General daniel jacobson's being able to step out and make

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Speaker 3: a couple, this Year But oscar cluff yet to even make.

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Speaker 4: A three point.

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Speaker 3: Field, goal, so yes those guys aren't going to provide

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Speaker 3: the same four spacing for a Guy like trekhoff and

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Speaker 3: run that he got out a lot of times. Last

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Speaker 3: year and so there's just gonna be, less space, lesser

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Speaker 3: maneuver less opportunity for him to kind of show off his.

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Speaker 3: Offensive package, and yes that's led to a substantial decrease

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Speaker 3: in scoring for him, this year but he's also been

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Speaker 4: He's not being able to not having to bang with other.

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Speaker 3: Centers on opposing teams where more often than not he

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Speaker 3: wasn't put in a great rebounding position because he was

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Speaker 3: more often than not just kind of fighting for his

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Speaker 3: everything he can to keep that other bigger guy from

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Speaker 3: getting in good. Rebounding POSITION so i think he's done

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Speaker 3: a good job for the most part transitioning to that

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Speaker 3: new role where maybe he's more of. A, facilitator obviously

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Speaker 3: defense is also now that he's much more established as

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Speaker 3: a score coming into, THIS season i think defenses coming into.

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Speaker 4: Each game are more aware of him and are throwing

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Speaker 3: AT him, i mean it's pretty Rare That, Trey coffin

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Speaker 3: wren gets in isolation on the block and doesn't have,

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Speaker 3: you know multiple players on the other team coming in.

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Speaker 3: His direction they're from like a true double, team standpoint

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Speaker 3: or maybe from kind of a scrape down or cover.

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Speaker 4: Down standpoint.

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Speaker 3: You know last year it did feel like he got

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Speaker 3: more one on, one OPPORTUNITIES and i think maybe that

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Speaker 3: facilitation role that. REBOUNDING role i saw a cliff on

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Speaker 3: social media where it was a picture of him with.

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Speaker 4: Blonde hair and It Said Trey rodman Wren Like. DENNIS

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Speaker 4: rodin i thought that was. PRETTY awesome i.

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Speaker 3: Was, LIKE man i wouldn't MIND seeing tk with a blond,

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Speaker 3: haired look maybe some colorful swirls in his Hair Like

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Speaker 3: dennis robin had once upon.

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Speaker 4: A time, SO yeah i.

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Speaker 3: Think it's been great to, see him, you know adjust

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Speaker 3: throughout the season of. That role there's certainly been ups

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Speaker 3: and downs, with it, but man he's been rebounding like

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Speaker 3: a maniacur these last couple, of games.

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Speaker 4: Hasn't he?

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Speaker 1: He has and again there ARE times i think he

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Speaker 1: just he almost like stepped aside and, just said you, Know,

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Speaker 1: what okay this.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be my.

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Speaker 1: Role now you Know if i'm not the low block

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Speaker 1: option one, scoring wise even though he certainly has been

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Speaker 1: and can be from game, TO game I just i

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Speaker 1: think he kind of had to figure out also now

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Speaker 1: readjust if you will to having a dominant space filling big.

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Speaker 1: Alongside him but we'll see what happens tonight because he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have his, hands full because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: Size for michigan And Again michigan, purdue tonight Number one

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Speaker 1: wolverines and Number seven Perdue, at mackie and maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit of growing Tension Between Dusty May matt. Paynter

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Speaker 1: rivalry there a lot to. Watch for it gonna be

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Speaker 1: fun and. Listen To and bobby will be on the

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Speaker 1: call after he joins us now On The Java House

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Speaker 1: cold brew. GUEST line, i mean appreciate the time.

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Speaker 4: As, always Yeah, thanks jake appreciate you for. Having me

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Speaker 4: should be an.

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Speaker 3: Awesome night the first time a number one right team

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Speaker 3: in the country's Coming to Mackie Since coach painter has

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Speaker 3: been At, The helm so it should be a lot.

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Speaker 3: OF fun i know the place is going to. Be

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Speaker 3: ROCKING so i hope everybody enjoys a.

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Speaker 1: Great game hope the paint crew spends plenty of Time

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Speaker 1: at harry's ahead of time and gets the place amped

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Speaker 1: up and blows the.

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Speaker 2: Roof.

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Speaker 1: Off mackie that's one of the things that we will look.

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Speaker 1: For Tonight stephen holder joins us now On The Java

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Speaker 1: House cold brew guest LINE from Espn. Dot, COM steven

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Speaker 1: i was just talking, about THIS and i want your thought.

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Speaker 1: On this you're you're just a little bit YOUNGER. Than

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Speaker 1: i have. You seen i'm gonna name a, Few, movies

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Speaker 1: STEVE and i want you to tell me if you've. Seen,

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Speaker 1: them okay, All Right Baris Bueller's day off.

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Speaker 5: Many?

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Speaker 1: Years, ago, yes, okay Uh The breakfast club.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: THIS is i DON'T think. I have i don't know

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Speaker 5: what that says, about ME but i DON'T think i

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Speaker 5: did see That Movie.

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Speaker 1: SIXTEEN candles I think. I, Did, Yes, Okay, Platoon Yes,

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Speaker 1: great Vacation The Chevy, Chase fetation yeah. For, sure okay

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Speaker 1: THE reason i, Say, IT.

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Speaker 5: Okay i don't know where this, is Going but. I'm listening.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead so we Went On Sunday night Pretty, in

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Speaker 1: pink which is you know one Of Those Molly Ringwall

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Speaker 1: john Hughes brat pack movies from nineteen. Eighty six it

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Speaker 1: was the fortieth anniversary of the Release of pretty impinks

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Speaker 1: that they were showing it in, the theater And so

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Speaker 1: SHANNON and i go to. THE movie i had never,

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Speaker 1: seen it believe it, or NOT but i was always aware.

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Speaker 1: Of it late in, THE movie i look Over and

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Speaker 1: shannon is, openly WEEPING like, i like balling her, eyes

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Speaker 1: OUT and i said, To, HER Oh i. I'M sorry

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Speaker 1: i didn't realize you also have never seen.

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Speaker 2: This before she looks right at me, And says i've

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Speaker 2: seen it one. Hundred, times okay.

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Speaker 1: But the POINT being i and maybe maybe i'm and

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Speaker 1: so THIS is i need you to be the judge and, Jury. Here,

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Speaker 1: stephen OKAY because i failed miserably In using eddie as.

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Speaker 2: THE example.

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Speaker 1: I feel like if you think about things from nineteen

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Speaker 1: John Elway, Darryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, Dominique Wilkins, Larry Bird,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Prince Madonna The John Hughes Mo vacation platoon is,

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Speaker 1: Eighty seven but, You Know, breakfast club all.

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Speaker 2: THOSE things i.

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Speaker 1: Feel like they still have cultural standing in twenty, twenty

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Speaker 1: six whereas in nineteen EIGHTY six i didn't feel like

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Speaker 1: it was is impactful the culture of nineteen, forty SIX

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Speaker 1: and i know that we're coming off, the war.

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Speaker 2: If That makes but does that make Sense what? I'm,

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Speaker 5: You're saying you're saying they have had more staying power,

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Speaker 5: than things.

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Speaker 2: Than, their press than their predacesory four years.

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Speaker 5: Before.

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Speaker 2: That, correct yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's, Well yeah and, of course like our perspective is

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Speaker 5: is going to be influenced by when we. Came, Along

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Speaker 5: obviously THAT'S what.

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Speaker 1: I mean so maybe i'm, you know maybe a younger

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Speaker 1: about i've never heard of any of?

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Speaker 2: Those?

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Speaker 5: Things, Yeah, right, SO like, I mean i don't know

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Speaker 5: what the hell was popular in nineteen. Forty SIX thankfully

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Speaker 5: i couldn't. Tell You But, FRED astaire i, Don't know

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Speaker 5: maybe somebody would, be like are? You Kidding fred astaire

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Speaker 5: was way Bigger Than, Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Harry Como, eddie Howard The, Ink Spots, Frankie Carlo, Dinah Shore,

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Speaker 1: Betty Hutton Von Monroe freddie martin and There's One frank.

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Speaker 1: Sinatra song hey if you, say, so, okay, Right, RIGHT

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Speaker 5: Don't know. IT'S interesting i think you know why because

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Speaker 5: because what you what you recall from, your youth it

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Speaker 5: years that's a big part. OF it, i think, You

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Speaker 5: know like it's it's the same argument i'd get into

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Speaker 5: there's nothing Bigger. Than, drake ever there's never been anything Bigger.

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Speaker 5: Than Drake and, i'm, like listen, shut up or get

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Speaker 5: out of. My, house, okay yeah, That's, Right OKAY like

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Speaker 5: i Lived Through, michael jackson so you can just have, a,

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Speaker 5: Seat okay like you were not allowed to speak the

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Speaker 5: rest of. The NIGHT but i mean that's, about. Perspective

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Speaker 5: right they weren't there for the women passing out in

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Speaker 5: the first row of, the, Concert RIGHT so i don't

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Speaker 5: know if any of this makes, any sense BUT and

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Speaker 5: i don't know if it answers. Your question but but

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Speaker 5: that's that's the that's the interesting part of that conversation.

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Speaker 5: For ME but I but i don't. DISAGREE though I

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Speaker 5: think i think those are definitely like those those movies

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Speaker 5: and and those. Cultural things they shaped our lives because

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Speaker 5: that's when we came, along.

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Speaker 1: Well and also feel LIKE and i do want to

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Speaker 1: Get To, anthony Richardson but i'll simply, SAY this i

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Speaker 1: do feel like LIKE when i Was watching Pretty, IN

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Speaker 1: pink i guess maybe this is what made me think.

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Speaker 1: Of it even in The movie Pretty, IN pink, i

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Speaker 1: mean they had some fashion that was very, QUINTESSENTIAL eighties,

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Speaker 1: i Mean The miami vice. Type look but for the,

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Speaker 1: most part the music and the fashion in the movie

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Speaker 1: doesn't look entirely different than what you would see walking the.

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Speaker 1: Streets TODAY whereas i feel like in nineteen forty six

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Speaker 1: the way everyone dressed was different than the way they

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Speaker 1: dressed in nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Eighty six that's.

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Speaker 5: A little where top hats that, often, anymore.

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Speaker 2: Right you KNOW what?

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Speaker 1: I mean, and like, you know the big cars and.

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Speaker 1: Everything else it. Just was it was a very. Definitive era, But,

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Speaker 1: ANYWAY steven i saw a report. Earlier today yahoo had

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Speaker 1: it and they cited you. Saying that and you tell

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Speaker 1: me if this is coming from new evidence or just

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Speaker 1: the gut Instinct Of stephen Holder That anthony richardson is

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Speaker 1: expected to request. A trade tell me the latest of what.

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Speaker 5: You, know yeah so we'll have a fuller story. On,

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Speaker 5: this well this is a. Long story but there's ANOTHER story.

437
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 5: I had i think we talked about this last week on.

438
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 5: The air we screwed up that was supposed to run.

439
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 5: Last week. It didn't it'll run this, week anyhow wasn't.

440
00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 5: My fault but Anyhow on anthony richeson that. Longer piece

441
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 5: so this is coming from a piece THAT is i

442
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 5: think today that we are, just addressing like how this

443
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 5: whole idea of let's run it back With the colts

444
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 5: is not. Entirely true AND what i mean by that

445
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 5: is like the roster will look potentially look very different

446
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 5: in twenty, twenty six be it the, offensive line, defensive line,

447
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 5: you know the rest of the. Defense generally and one

448
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 5: of the THINGS that i pointed out in that story is.

449
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 5: That quarterback there will be a likely or possibly at

450
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 5: least they change that, quarterback too and the former first

451
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 5: round Pick And anthony richardson might not be here. Next

452
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 5: year now is that me just coming from? Gut? Feeling,

453
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 5: no now has he requested the?

454
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 2: Trade?

455
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 5: Yet, no however Has Does anthony richardson agree that his

456
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 5: best interests might be to. Be elsewhere that. Is, true

457
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 5: okay that, Is true and how do you make? That

458
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 5: happen really by virtue of? A trade and so that

459
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 5: feeling in his camp is kind of where that. Comes

460
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 5: FROM and i mean this is, not. GROUNDBREAKING obviously i

461
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 5: think anybody who's followed this situation closely can look at

462
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 5: it and probably surmise that he might want to. Be,

463
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 5: elsewhere look they have Already Determined daniel jones is. Their

464
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 5: quarterback they have also Determined That riley leonard is a

465
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 5: viable backup or could be a. VIABLE backup i don't

466
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 5: know if that decision has been made one, hundred percent

467
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 5: but there is definitely a strong feeling toward that. Being

468
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 5: true where does That Leave. ANTHONY richardson i think it's

469
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 5: very clear it leaves him with no real certain Future.

470
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: In indianapolis when You look stephen at the situation with the, Franchise,

471
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: tag okay are they putting themselves in position where a

472
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: especially If The anthony, richardson situation if they're taking calls

473
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: and they've moved on, from that if for some reason

474
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: they're not able to immediately come to an Agreement With,

475
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: daniel jones even though it would be forty seven point

476
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: twenty four to two million franchise tag availability. Begins today

477
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: are they putting themselves in a spot where they're going

478
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: to have to? Tag him if all of a sudden

479
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: it seems as though he may be interested in talking to,

480
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: OTHER people.

481
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 5: I think i would not rule out the. FRANCHISE tag

482
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 5: i don't expect. IT happening i don't expect that it,

483
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 5: happens IMMEDIATELY but i think they'll, they'll talk and you

484
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 5: try to come to, a deal and if it's if

485
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 5: it doesn't look like you'll get there before the franchise,

486
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 5: tag DEADLINE which i believe is in.

487
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: Two weeks the deadline for the, franchise tag by, the

488
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: Way is, March fourth, so, yeah.

489
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 5: OKAY so i think it is usually about a two week.

490
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 5: Wind though so if it looks like they can't come to,

491
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 5: an agreement or they aren't close to an agreement By

492
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 5: that march, fourth DEADLINE then i think it becomes. Very

493
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 5: possible this would Be The michael. Pittman situation they did

494
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 5: that a couple of. Years AGO if i, recall correctly

495
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 5: they weren't close to a, deal yet but they had

496
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 5: decided we're, keeping, YOU right, i mean that's that's. The

497
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 5: determination are we going to keep this player under, Any

498
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 5: circumstance and if that, answers yes then you go ahead

499
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 5: and you issue this the franchise tag and you. Keep

500
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 5: negotiating it's, a placeholder is what it. Would be they

501
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 5: don't intend as FAR as i, can tell there's no

502
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 5: intention of Having Having daniel jones play for that forty seven.

503
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 5: Million dollars but it is, an option and it's really,

504
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 5: a tool is what. It is that's what it was

505
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 5: intended to be when they came up with the. Franchise

506
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 5: tag really it was it was intended, To, be look

507
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 5: we want to protect this player from reaching, free agency

508
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 5: so we want this player for the. Long term in,

509
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 5: the answeriom it's actually at times become a situation where players, are,

510
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 5: like well, Screw you i'm just going to take to

511
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 5: stake this money And then i'll see you later. Next

512
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 5: year so, BUT generally i think most of, the time

513
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 5: overwhelmingly teams use it to try to keep negotiating and

514
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 5: try to work out. A deal that's what you typically

515
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 5: find with the, franchise tag and that would be the.

516
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: Case here by, The way.

517
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: Eddie's correct FOUR o'clock pm on the Third of march

518
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: is the deadline on? Franchise Tag Is alec pierson play?

519
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: At all for the? Franchise tag twenty eight million is

520
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: what it, would cost which is probably about market value

521
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: the difference between the franchise Tag Of daniel Jones Or.

522
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: Alec pierce if they so choose to do one of

523
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: those Two, with pierce that feels like that's about. Market Value,

524
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: in jones you would be blatantly overpaying in, the, Beginning

525
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 1: right so do they perhaps pivot that and use It.

526
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: On pierce.

527
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: I'm not ruling it Out. For pierce, let's say if

528
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 5: they feel good About The daniel. Jones situation look at

529
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 5: this is, all, fluid right so we're just. Talking hypothetic

530
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 5: but if they feel good About The daniel, JONES negotiations

531
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 5: i don't think it's out of the question at all

532
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 5: to use it on, Excuse Me. Alec, pierce also the

533
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 5: same rules, apply there with the, intent, being well we're

534
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 5: not intending for him to make the twenty eight, MILLION

535
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 5: dollars i think you'd want to come in at a

536
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 5: lower Number. On, PIERCE ideally i don't know what the market.

537
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 5: Will bear but let's just but if You're, the colts

538
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 5: you want that number on a long term deal to. Be,

539
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 5: lower now the way you do that is guarantee a

540
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 5: good bit of money and structure it in a way

541
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 5: that's appealing to. The. PLAYER maybe i, don't KNOW but

542
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 5: i think the twenty eight million if he signs a long.

543
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 5: TERM deal i don't know if that's the number on

544
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 5: the long. TERM deal i do think. It'll be it'll

545
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 5: be in the twenty plus million per, YEAR range. I

546
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 5: believe but the, REALITY is i think that this is

547
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 5: an interesting question and there's no way to, know THIS but.

548
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 5: I wonder i wonder if let's say both players make

549
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 5: it to. The market just for, Argument's Sake, Daniel Jones,

550
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 5: alec pierce who do you think More? TEAMS chase i

551
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 5: think the answer Might Be.

552
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: Alec, peerce oh It's, definitely. PIERCE right i think that's, pretty,

553
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: CLEAR right, i Mean the achilles? Changes? Everything right did We?

554
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: LOSE stephen i guess so.

555
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: You must have disagreed with my sentiment there That the achilles. Changes,

556
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: EVERYTHING yes i think when you look, At it PIERCE

557
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: is i do think THAT they're i don't, know THIS

558
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: but i would assume that other franchises there's a yin

559
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: and yang on the Value Of.

560
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones The.

561
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: Daniel jones value probably was increased or helped a little

562
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: bit By What sam darnold did In The, super bowl, showing,

563
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: that like if you get a smart veteran quarterback that

564
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: can play within himself in, a system you. Can Win

565
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: and jones showed that he could be. That guy but

566
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: then you get the detriment of not Only, the achilles

567
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: but also the starting to show a little bit of

568
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: coming back down to earth just before he. Got hurt

569
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: and maybe that's related to the fact that he was

570
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: about to get hurt or he was favoring. That leg but, To,

571
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: me stephen there's no Question that pierce would be the

572
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: guy that has more transcendent value across the league and

573
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: as a guy that could plug in Anywhere. Whereas jones

574
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: you got to it's kind of a, system.

575
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 5: Thing, right well not, only that but also if You're Signing,

576
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 5: daniel jones you're committing to a Degree To, daniel jones

577
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 5: at least for the, short, TERM right, i mean if

578
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: you go sign him for if you were interested In

579
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 5: Signing daniel jones as an. Outside suitor you're talking about

580
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 5: having to pay thirty plus million, a year even if it's.

581
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 5: One YEAR so i mean that comes with a certain

582
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 5: level of commitment that tells you he's your. Starting Quarterback

583
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: and i'm not saying that wouldn't be a good move for.

584
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 5: Some teams it probably would be an upgrade for. Me

585
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: teas the, question though is. The injury, you know there's

586
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: also the history. With him are you? A believer i happen,

587
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 5: To be but what if you're not right and you

588
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 5: have to truly have a lot, of conviction, you know

589
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: and the injury is really a big thing. For me,

590
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: you know you the optics of signing a guy with

591
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: an outside team signing this guy for thirty five million

592
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 5: just throw out a number right with a with a bum,

593
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 5: Achilles like you've got to have a real good job

594
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: security to. Do, That okay it's different Than the colts

595
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 5: who have had success, with him are comfortable, with him

596
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 5: he wants to, be there all of. Those things it's

597
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: a much different situation with him re signing With. THE

598
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 5: colts i think, so Anyway, WITHOUT pearce I mean, i envisioned,

599
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 5: for example if he gets the. FREE agency I Think

600
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 5: josh allen is Blowing Up brandon bean their GM's phone

601
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 5: and saying you better. Do it you know that kind,

602
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 5: of thing LIKE he's i think he's that kind of

603
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 5: guy who could be a game changer for teams.

604
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: Out there what do you perceive is the market Value

605
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: for like If the culture going To Sign daniel jones,

606
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: right now let's say it's a three, year deal what's

607
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: the per what's he going to make?

608
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 5: Per, YOU yeah i mean a lot of people have,

609
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 5: told me and it's, a speculation but smart people Have.

610
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: The baker.

611
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: MAYFIELD template i think you have to add some money

612
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: because every year the cap. Goes up so so a

613
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 5: contract from three years ago is no, longer applicable or

614
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 5: what a couple of, years ago a contract from two

615
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 5: years ago is not applicable in twenty. Twenty six but

616
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 5: just as a this as, A baseline, i Think if i'm,

617
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 5: Not mistaken baker got what three years ninety plus, the.

618
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: Game it was like thirty three year maybe thirty.

619
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 5: Two thirty, three, ISH right i think it was actually

620
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 5: close to one, Hundred totals so that's. ABOUT right i

621
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 5: think you've got to add maybe. LIKE a i.

622
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: Don't know.

623
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 5: Five or, ten percent. You, KNOW additional i mean that's

624
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 5: just because the cap still well.

625
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: Under one it could cost to, tag him but still

626
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: a healthy Sum For. Daniel jones steve. The, money yeah

627
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: let Me and i've been curious of THIS and i

628
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: don't know. This ANSWER thus i will defer, To You,

629
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,080
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630
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,040
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631
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,640
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632
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,280
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633
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: into one of. Their Cafes use jake twenty five for

634
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: twenty five. Percent off stephen Can the Can the colts

635
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: use the tag twice in the? Same cycle in, other

636
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: words if they Franchise Tag daniel jones and then two

637
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Days Later daniel, jones says you, KNOW what i love,

638
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: IT here i want to sign and they come to,

639
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: an agreement can they lift the tag off? Of him

640
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: and as long as it Is before, march third then

641
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: reassign the Tag To.

642
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Alec, pierce no you can rescind, the tag but you.

643
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: Cannot. Reissue now there is also something that we rarely.

644
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 5: Talk about there is the. Transition tag it's almost, never

645
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 5: used but every blamoon a player does use a team

646
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 5: does use the, transition tag and the way, it works

647
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 5: it's a little bit lower salary and it's still though

648
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 5: gives the team the right of. FIRST refusal a player

649
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 5: can go out there and get an. Offer sheet but

650
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 5: there are some differences in, the rules and it's been

651
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: so long since it's been USED that i am blinking on.

652
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 5: The differences but you do have two tags at. Your

653
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 5: disposal there is the franchise tag and the. Transition tag

654
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 5: the protections with the transition tag are not, as good

655
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: but it is useful from time.

656
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: To, time okay so that's where and now last question

657
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: would be.

658
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: About this you think they'll use the tag? At ALL so.

659
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 5: I think the odds are much higher this year than

660
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 5: they've ever been For the colts because you have two

661
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 5: players in play who really are you could really.

662
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: JUSTIFY it.

663
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 5: I Think, alec pierce if they're serious About Keeping, ALEC

664
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 5: pierce i think you. DO it i Think With, DANIEL

665
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 5: jones i worry Less About. DANIEL jones i Know that

666
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 5: shane stiking for Him Like alec pearce, is everything like

667
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: he understands that they can't let this guy walk out.

668
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: The.

669
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 5: Door NOW what i will tell, you though is that

670
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 5: as of, recent week certainly when the, season ended there

671
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 5: was no momentum toward a, new deal. Like NONE but

672
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: i am going to assume that that Was Just chris

673
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: Ballard Doing chris, ballard things which is to kind of

674
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 5: wait till the eleventh hour and let it. Play out

675
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 5: he doesn't tend to jump up and just hand the money.

676
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 5: Out early he does tend to wait till the, last

677
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: minute which maybe that's when you get the. BEST deal i,

678
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 5: don't KNOW but i do think because of The Way

679
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 5: chris ballard handles these, big negotiations it does increase the

680
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 5: likelihood that you'll have to use the tag because you're

681
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 5: going to probably wait till the.

682
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: Last, Minute, OKAY steven i want you to think. About

683
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: this you're not driving anywhere, right now.

684
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Are you? I'm?

685
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Not?

686
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: Okay good that.

687
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: Need you to close. YOUR eyes i don't want you to.

688
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: Do that if, YOU'RE driving i want you to close. Your.

689
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: Eyes okay now we're talking right here in the Middle

690
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: of february twenty, twenty SIX but i want you to

691
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: imagine It is november of twenty. Twenty six it is

692
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: seven months, from NOW and espn comes to you and, They,

693
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: Say Steven anthony richardson is got a couple of games under.

694
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: His belt he's played pretty well here as a starter

695
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: in his. New home he has a new franchise he's

696
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: been playing for and for, whatever reason whether he was

697
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: handed the keys in the beginning or, whatever else he's

698
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: playing well In the and you're getting Set for THANKSGIVING

699
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: and espn is going to send You To Anthony richardson

700
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: stadium to do a game. For Him And anthony richardson

701
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: sees you there, And Says steven holder a. Long time

702
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: been good to see. You again it makes me feel at.

703
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: Home Again And anthony richardson says, To, You steven i'd

704
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: like to take you to. Dinner TONIGHT and i want

705
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: to make Sure because i'm trying to become a part

706
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: of my, new environment my. New city i'm a part,

707
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: of it And so i'm going to take you out

708
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: and we're going to enjoy cuisine that is indigenous to

709
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: the city OF which i. Now play based, On, that

710
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: steven you are enjoying?

711
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: What?

712
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 5: Food wow, all right LET'S SEE i, i, think well so,

713
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 5: all right let's. Do it. This way what do they

714
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: like to Eat, in scottsdale tex? MEX tacos i, Don't

715
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 5: know like that's.

716
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: A good that seems like a, foodie Place doesn't It

717
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: doesn't scottsdale seem like it's so munch of people that,

718
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: are like, you know good.

719
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: Stay, houses yeah that's, Probably probably but but general's Indigenous.

720
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: To arizona that's, the, Problem right.

721
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 5: THAT'S what i was going. To say everybody moved there

722
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 5: unless You're. Like NAVAJO so, I mean i, don't KNOW

723
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 5: and i don't know what, they EAT and i don't

724
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 5: know what The latest navajo restaurant Is the navajo. Restaurant is,

725
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: but Anyhow and i'm.

726
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: Not even going to make a joke about how you, need,

727
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: reservation no, You.

728
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 5: Know okay, To, EASY look. I don't i don't know

729
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 5: anything specific about what's going On in arizona.

730
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: Right, now okay let me be clear. About THAT BUT.

731
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: I i think when you when you look at landing

732
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 5: Spots For, anthony richardson if if there was a, deal

733
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 5: made or even if he was released or whatever the case,

734
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: might be if he ends up, SOMEWHERE else i think

735
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 5: when you look at, LANDING spots i would say it's

736
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 5: got to be a team that's in, quarterback transition. You

737
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: know and of course we still haven't gotten to, the

738
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 5: draft which IS why i suspect this could happen around, draft,

739
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 5: time right because teams will then know their. Quarterback situation

740
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 5: on the, other hand who's even in the draft? This?

741
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: Year right this is a weak. Quarterback DRAFT and i

742
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 5: don't know that free agency is going to help you.

743
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: Much either so it might actually play well into his

744
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 5: hands to be available, this offseason just because there are

745
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: not that many paths To.

746
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: Getting viotrace So is arizona basically just completely Punting On?

747
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: KYLER murray i mean it feels.

748
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 5: LIKE it i, don't KNOW but i don't know that

749
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 5: that this is the right time to. Do that that's,

750
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 5: the problem, YOU know i would say they certainly never

751
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 5: want Anything With.

752
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 2: Kyler murray what about A? JUICY lucy.

753
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 4: A?

754
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: Juicy, Lucy yeah i'm trying to think of Where juicy.

755
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 6: Lucy is isn't that like the famous Burger?

756
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: In minneapolis, You.

757
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: Know minneapolis my favorite place is a Place Called joe's

758
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: garage and it's, Closed now so, you Know in minneapolis

759
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: they HAVE what I would i actually knew Somebody from

760
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: minneapolis that would make tortillas with butter and then sugar,

761
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: on top and it's Like A nordic i don't know what,

762
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: that's called but it's Like a.

763
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: Nordic dessert but that would.

764
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: Be also if The juicy lucy, is it that would

765
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: also be a Possible a Mall of america food court

766
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: dining Experience With, anthony richardson that would be a.

767
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 5: Possibility, rctly now if that doesn't get You, IN minneapolis

768
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 5: i don't know, what, WILL okay i would say that

769
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 5: actually is also, you know a. Possible destination just, you

770
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 5: know off top of, my head we Know that, kevin O'Connell,

771
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: you know had definitely had some Admiration For. ANTHONY richardson

772
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 5: i will tell, you Before before richardson, was drafted the

773
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 5: TEAMS that i think were the most interested, in HIM

774
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 5: because I was i was getting pretty good Intel on.

775
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 5: Richardson's situation the teams that were the most Interested In

776
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 5: anthony richardson before he was drafted WOULD be i Think,

777
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 5: the Colts the seahawks they don't need, them Now, the Vikings,

778
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 5: the titans and that's probably the main suitors when He

779
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 5: was but those are the main one.

780
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: When he, Was, selected stephen from what you could tell from,

781
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: other teams and by, the, way yes the juicy lucy.

782
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Looks fabulous by, The way minnesota born and cheeseburger with

783
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: cheese sealed inside the beef patty rather than, on top

784
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: resulting in a molten core that actually. Looks, Fabulous Stephen

785
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: When anthony richardson, was selected do you think that league

786
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: wide the perception was we would have done the, same

787
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: thing or do you think league wide the, perception was

788
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: What is?

789
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: Indianapolis doing that guy's a. THIRD rounder i.

790
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 5: Think there was a, Big, split okay, Big SPLIT and

791
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 5: i think there were a lot of people who, were

792
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 5: like we, get it we, get IT and i think

793
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 5: there were a lot of, other PEOPLE and i heard,

794
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 5: from both there were a lot of other people who,

795
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 5: were like we Would NEVER and i just think it

796
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: just it really just depends on. Your situation And the

797
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: colt situation, was. Unique right it was they had gone

798
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 5: the other route in terms of, you know. Retread quarterbacks

799
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: they've done it over and over for an over and you,

800
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: also had, you know people who will criticize that pick

801
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 5: have to take the context into consideration and what is

802
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 5: part of, that context you had an Owner In. Jie

803
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 5: merce he, was like we are getting off of, this

804
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 5: carousel get me. A Quarterback and i'm not even, criticizing it,

805
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 5: you know may you rest. In peace it is not

806
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 5: a criticism of that of that STANCE because i mean

807
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: he had seen enough, of, It right and of course we, all,

808
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 5: Agree OKAY so i mean we're talking About What, Philip Rivers,

809
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 5: Carson Wentz. MATT ryan, i mean at some point it had, to,

810
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 5: Stop RIGHT so i think there was an understanding in

811
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 5: the organization that this is this has, to stop and

812
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 5: we got to try. Something ELSE so i think even

813
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 5: those who have criticism for that pick and maybe didn't

814
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 5: Believe In, anthony richardson you would also at least have, to, admit,

815
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: okay well their circumstances were unique and it was it

816
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 5: was a chance they had. To TAKE so i think

817
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 5: that's just the reality.

818
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: Of, it lesa by, the way is The nor we

819
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: DELICACY that. I enjoyed it was, basically tortilla although it's

820
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: more of like a potato based thing with butter on

821
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: it and then sugar and then you roll that bad.

822
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: Boy up it is actually.

823
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: Pretty, good steven we will keep an eye On The

824
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: anthony richardson saga as well as the franchise tag by

825
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: following what you're DOING at espn, dot com and in,

826
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: the meantime Enjoy watching Pretty in pink.

827
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: Later tonight.

828
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 5: That's a.

829
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: Great night there. You go that Was.

830
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: My sunday i'm telling you it was a. Decent, movie

831
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: actually Can't believe i've never seen.

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00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: It before Pacers.

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00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: And wizards you just heard the promotion for It Upcoming purdue,

834
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Speaker 1: Michigan tonight big One At. Macki Arena bobby riddell earlier

835
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Speaker 2: Can anticipate that is available in.

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Speaker 1: v signs off today to get you set for. That

839
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Game stephen holder earlier today with the News About anthony

840
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: richardson likely to request a trade Away, from indianapolis and

841
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,240
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Speaker 1: agnes basically the age between the two, of, Us, Right

845
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Speaker 1: eddie i'm going to run Down for scott some of

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Speaker 1: THOSE movies i, mentioned earlier and we're going to get. His,

847
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: Checklist Okay Scott Agnes Field house finals joining us now

848
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,320
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849
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: This one i'm going to list. Some movies you tell

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851
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Speaker 2: Seen them?

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00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: Try Okay sixteen candles heard?

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Speaker 5: Of it.

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Speaker 2: It Okay The breakfast club heard?

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Speaker 8: Of, It.

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Speaker 5: In?

864
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: Pink?

865
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: Correct uh let me let me list a couple of actors.

866
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: Or actresses you tell me if you're familiar.

867
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: With them?

868
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 4: You?

869
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: Ready Yeah Anthony, Michael hall, No IDEA. Michael j, Fox Aware,

870
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: molly ringwold.

871
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 8: No idea.

872
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: Have You seen Vacation With? Chevy? Chase yeah, of?

873
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: Course.

874
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 2: Absolutely Okay Anthony michael hall is the kid? In, it

875
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: okay he was. Also in and you said you've heard of,

876
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: sixteen candles have not? Seen?

877
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 5: It?

878
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: Correct, Yep okay i'm gonna give you LIKE three.

879
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 7: Tv hit it's funny you're hitting literally my biggest weakness probably.

880
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: In movies i'm gonna give you a COUPLE of.

881
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: Tv shows you tell me whether you're familiar with them

882
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: OR have i wouldn't expect you to have. Seen these

883
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: bit if you're familiar, with them. You're, Ready, sure cheers,

884
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: Seen It.

885
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: Family, TIES.

886
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 8: Oh i Feel like i've seen some, Of That.

887
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: The, cosby show.

888
00:43:59,160 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 8: Seen it.

889
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: The point i'm making these are all things that were

890
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: big in nineteen. EIGHTY six I saw pretty And pick Over,

891
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: the Weekend and, i'm, like man that movie is forty,

892
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: years old which is a long. Time ago admittedly forty,

893
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: years OLD but i feel like some of the pop

894
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: cultural things that were relevant in nineteen eighty six have

895
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: more staying powered today than things from nineteen forty six

896
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: did in nineteen.

897
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: Eighty six does that? Make, Sense yeah i'd say so.

898
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 8: For, Sure.

899
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: Okay yeah, musicians familiar, Not familiar, Madada familiar, prince Familiar

900
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: the bengals. Not familiar walk Like. An, EGYPTIAN.

901
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 8: Oh i gotta. SAY unfamiliar i, Don't.

902
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: Know eddie do you know the song walk Like? An

903
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: egyptian you asked, me.

904
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 8: This saying so that's a song not an ARTIST that i.

905
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: Know it that's A song walk Like, the egyptian You,

906
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: asked familiarlyer my answer.

907
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: Hasn't, Changed, no eddie play walk Like an egyptian By.

908
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: The bengals and tell me that you've never heard, it

909
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: before like you've never walked Into, A kroger you've never

910
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: like walked through a mall and heard This overhead macy's

911
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: any of, those places like, you know with just the music,

912
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: in general when you walk into places and you got

913
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: to go like probably a minute into it or forty

914
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: five seconds into the song once it cues up for.

915
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: You here.

916
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: But it was AND again I realized. I'm motorered, you

917
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: guys this song was everywhere back in. The day i'm

918
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: not saying that that means that it, is TODAY but

919
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: i feel like you would still hear it overhead from

920
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: time to time or just within.

921
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: The conscience.

922
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 8: Definitely have. Heard, That yeah i've.

923
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: Heard it didn't know that it was, called okay but

924
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: you have, heard, It, right, yeah yeah okay at. Any,

925
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: Rate Okay, so scott let's get, to this the tanking

926
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: situation IN. The nba are they going to make any

927
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: sort of a change you think moving forward with this

928
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: or as going to be an. Annual conversation it.

929
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 8: Does seem like it's an.

930
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 7: ANNUAL conversation i will Say that i'm surprised about the

931
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 7: intensity Of a jake because what have we seen in?

932
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 8: Recent?

933
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 7: Years right Why was okac in large part So good

934
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 7: they executed, a tank same Thing With san antonio for

935
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 7: a couple, of.

936
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 8: Years right and that's.

937
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 7: How you build up your cupboard of the young players

938
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 7: so that you can. Afford them you. Develop them and

939
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 7: that's the other thing that's missing here is it's one

940
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 7: thing to, draft them it's another thing to develop them

941
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 7: set them up for. Success here, BUT yes i do

942
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 7: think there will be some kind of tweaks updates to

943
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 7: make kind of people happy and see if, you know

944
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 7: they can solve it in a. SHORT term i do

945
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 7: not expect any kind of. Grand changes and there's so

946
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 7: many trickle down effects, to that including, pick, protections right like.

947
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 7: The pacers what if you, you know what if you

948
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 7: have a pick protection here three four, years down but

949
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 7: then you get rid of like a lottery system and things.

950
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 7: LIKE that i think the number one thing, They'll do

951
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 7: jake is issue, more fines more, substantial fines and see

952
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 7: if that can simplify it and let's get rid of.

953
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: The, less obviously the reality, is this though you Can

954
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: find Indiana and Utah And new orleans till the cows

955
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: come home and nobody's, gonna care it's not till you Find,

956
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: the knicks the lakers Of the celtics that all of

957
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: a sudden people.

958
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 4: Pay.

959
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 7: ATTENTION right i don't entirely agree, with that because it's

960
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 7: gotten a lot. Of attention the way in which especially

961
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 7: we're talking About what utah is doing here where they're

962
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 7: blatantly sitting guys in the. Fourth, quarter toronto by, the

963
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 7: way did the same thing. Last year they would specifically

964
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 7: not play key players late in games or in the

965
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 7: middle portion. Of games but then it comes down to

966
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 7: kind of big, Brother, here, jake right like you're, Sitting there, it's,

967
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 7: like okay so it's the league office telling you who

968
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 7: to play.

969
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 8: And, WIN like i don't, like that and that's how

970
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 8: it felt.

971
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: To me that was, My problem like when When the

972
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: pacers are getting fined because They Sat, pascal siakam who's

973
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: played like a, billion, minutes right and then when they

974
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: finally rest, the guy they get fined, for it and, it's,

975
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: like wait.

976
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: A minute so are You Telling jaris walker? He sucks

977
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: is that what?

978
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 7: You're, Saying right it's an, imperfect system and because it has,

979
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 7: its flaws of course you're going to have these brilliant

980
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 7: front office people with their data analytics and everything trying

981
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 7: to poke holes, in it and it it reminds Me

982
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 7: of belichick in, an, Extent, right like for the, most

983
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 7: part what he did was find the gaps or, the

984
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 7: unknowns exploit it until there was.

985
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 8: A rule then he would go on to the.

986
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: Next thing he's here was the SOLUTION that i, threw

987
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: out And, then scott you tell me if you think

988
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: this is, totally Undoable and EDDIE and i debated it

989
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: because it's not a perfect there is no, perfect, Answer,

990
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: Right yeah but THE way i looked at, It, was

991
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: okay if this is what teams are. Gonna do nobody

992
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: starts out the year and says we're gonna suck. All

993
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: year come out and your chance to See The noblesville

994
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: boom playing eighty two games.

995
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 2: A year and nobody nobody comes out and.

996
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Does that they want to see who they, are first

997
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: and usually it's around twenty. Five games you get a

998
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: real idea, of, like man this thing's going. South quickly

999
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: so if YOU'RE, the nba you look at it and, you,

1000
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: say okay we're going to put a line in the

1001
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: sand Here of. March first i'm just going To throw

1002
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: march first as a Number of. March first and if

1003
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: you are one of the top or, excuse me bottom,

1004
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: six teams if you have one of the six, worst,

1005
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: records great you are the six teams that are eligible

1006
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: for the top six picks in. The draft but the

1007
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: top overall pick is going to go to the team

1008
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: of those six that has the best record in the last.

1009
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: Twenty, games now all of, a sudden if.

1010
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: You are washington Or Your new orleans Or, your utah

1011
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: you look at it Starting on, march first and, you're

1012
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: like we got to start winning.

1013
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: Some games these.

1014
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: Games matter, and yes it is unfair because perhaps What

1015
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: if utah has, to play, you know the top three

1016
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: teams still remaining on, their schedule and it's backload or.

1017
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: Whatever else that's the. Risky.

1018
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: Run man but you are forcing teams to invert their

1019
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: strategy down the, home stretch and you are limiting the

1020
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: amount of time. That teams you are putting an expiration date.

1021
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: On tanking. Your, THOUGHTS.

1022
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 7: Yeah i think like any, OF this i think it's

1023
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 7: great in, many respects but then there's also some holes.

1024
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 7: Within it, for example like some of these players are

1025
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 7: hurt and they are, having surgery or you don't want

1026
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 7: players to be coming back from. An injury you don't

1027
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 7: want to, force it but you also need. The wins,

1028
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 7: so that, to me that's partially a. Challenge here the

1029
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 7: OTHER thing i think fans need to recognize is players,

1030
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 7: aren't tanking players aren't trying. To lose, in fact many

1031
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 7: of the time the players that are out there are

1032
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 7: playing for, a job whether it's with their current team.

1033
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 7: Or elsewhere it's kind of, an audition if, you will

1034
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 7: and it's part of the. Developing factor the big thing in,

1035
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 7: all this when it comes down, to IT is i

1036
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 7: BELIEVE the nba really sports as a whole trade on

1037
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 7: kind of. Three things the economy, of connection, of community,

1038
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 7: of hope and that hope is the thing here that. Is,

1039
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 7: Interesting right let's Take the. Pacers specifically it works out

1040
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 7: well because it's our, market too but there's no one to,

1041
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 7: say that, you know pacers are just specifically trying to

1042
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 7: lose that they wouldn't want to reach the playoffs if.

1043
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 7: They could but the reality is their circumstances are down,

1044
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 7: this ROAD and i think what, We've seen i'm sure

1045
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 7: what you felt from your listeners and. Text line here is, the, Hope,

1046
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 7: now jacob this group is about. Next year it's about

1047
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 7: bolstering the group so they can, get back not just

1048
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 7: to a, playoff run to a. Championship, run YEAH and i.

1049
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 7: Get again.

1050
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: You know the other thing would be do you randomly

1051
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: select at the end of, the year you use the

1052
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: ping pong ball machine to select eighteen random games amongst those,

1053
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: six teams and then put together the best record of

1054
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: the eighteen, or whatever so that you don't know which

1055
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: games it is or when it is that you are,

1056
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: being itemized so. To, Speak, now eddie you brought up

1057
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: a scenario that THE w nba uses that.

1058
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 6: You, LIKE yeah i was, just Saying and scott can

1059
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 6: elaborate more. ON this i like the WAY the wnba,

1060
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 6: Has it scott from their.

1061
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 7: Lottery, perspective yeah it's kind of a rolling, draft order if,

1062
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 7: You will so it's like your combined record over the

1063
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 7: last couple. Of, years therefore, for example ONE thing i

1064
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 7: think that everybody, Agrees on jake here is that there

1065
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 7: needs to be rules set in stones so you don't

1066
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 7: just constantly live in. The lottery so maybe you can't

1067
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 7: make a top five picking back to, back years or

1068
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 7: you can't draft in the lottery for three straight years.

1069
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 7: OR whatever i think one of the penalties that could

1070
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 7: be considered is if it's, firm enough do you move

1071
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 7: to the back of. THE line i think we discussed

1072
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 7: that maybe. Last year but the whole thing in reference

1073
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 7: TO the wnba there is it's not just specifically about that.

1074
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 7: One year it's a rolling kind of conglomerate number of

1075
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 7: the last couple of years to have a better indication

1076
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 7: if this was just a, bad year a couple bad

1077
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 7: injuries threw.

1078
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: You Off when Scott the pacers and by, The Way

1079
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: scott agnes is my guest On The Java house colbrew.

1080
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: Guest line scott won for example that. Enjoys coffee if

1081
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: you go Into The java house locations and order ahead

1082
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: of time on The job, house app you can use

1083
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: The code jake twenty five for twenty five percent off

1084
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: you are in. Cafe Purchase Scott ANDREW nemhart i will

1085
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: use that. One Specifically, nem hard, of course was injured

1086
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: going Into The all star break when they Are in

1087
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: washington to take On, the whiz where do things stand

1088
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: in terms of the Availability of nemhart and or others

1089
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Outside Of tyrese Haliburton And Obi topp and are we

1090
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: looking at basically a?

1091
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: Clean, SLATE.

1092
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 8: Yeah i think for the.

1093
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 7: MOST part i Mean nem hard was on the injury

1094
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 7: report and he's he's dealt with certain things throughout, the

1095
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 7: season right And remember game one where he had.

1096
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 8: THAT injury i.

1097
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 7: Believe it was to, his shoulder just a fluke type.

1098
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 7: Of injury, but yeah outside of You got siakam that

1099
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 7: they want to keep an, eye on right with in terms,

1100
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 7: of MINUTES and i think that's realistically How The pacers

1101
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 7: jake should handle these next couple. Of months is is

1102
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 7: not sitting guys game, after game but being more conscious of.

1103
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 7: Their minutes they're wearing tear here moving forward and with,

1104
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 7: All this i'm trying to think the injury report off

1105
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 7: the top of, my head but you really mostly dealing

1106
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 7: with what would.

1107
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 8: It be it's just be the.

1108
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 7: Guys that, are out Primarily, with Topping with tyrese And

1109
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 7: with furfey that come. To mind THE others i think

1110
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 7: we're more rest and.

1111
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: Injury management, you know the if you look at, their Schedule,

1112
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: the pacers if in fact it's a concerted attempt to, suck,

1113
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: here right this is a big week for them in.

1114
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: That, regard right they got a big stretch that comes.

1115
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: Up here and the tai because You got, washington twice You,

1116
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: got dallas You, Got philly, philly's okay You got charlotte.

1117
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 2: IN there, i mean they got some big opportun, tunities here. Don't.

1118
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 7: They, scott Yeah the wizards is the, main one right

1119
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 7: to have one of those rare back, to backs both

1120
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 7: in terms of game and in terms of opponent. And

1121
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 7: location so often we see the home and homes, Against them,

1122
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 7: but Yeah the washington's a team that they're battling with

1123
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 7: there at the bottom Of The eastern. Conference standings and

1124
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 7: here's THE example i think of what teams in the

1125
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 7: league Don't. Want jakes you Look at washington and so

1126
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 7: much of what we're seeing as players at the trade

1127
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 7: deadline being acquired and did not play the rest of.

1128
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 7: The year we Saw in Utah With Jaron, jackson JUNIOR

1129
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 7: and i know we had Surgery and i'm never gonna

1130
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 7: question anybody, having surgery because that is not something you

1131
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 7: do lightly easily or for a.

1132
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 8: You know pr by.

1133
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 7: Any Means, But Washington, Anthony Davis, trey young each of

1134
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 7: those guys acquired, mid SEASON and i doubt we'll see

1135
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 7: either of them the rest of. THE season i think those.

1136
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 7: Are Areas if i'm the, LEAGUE office i try to

1137
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 7: shore up here more than.

1138
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 8: ANYTHING else, i mean when do we?

1139
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: See, zoobots.

1140
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 7: Yeah that's that's a good point. WITH him i think

1141
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 7: it's a matter of. Two things, number one the sudden

1142
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 7: trade and having a kid and all. OF that i,

1143
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 7: think realistically you do see him, this SEASON though i

1144
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 7: don't know why. YOU wouldn't i know a lot, of,

1145
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 7: SAID hey i. Don't, CARE no i take great value

1146
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 7: in seeing him get some time on the Court, with

1147
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 7: siakam With, nim Hard with carlisle coaching, the team and

1148
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 7: knowing how they treat circumstances and experiences late. In games things.

1149
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 8: Like that we do not.

1150
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 7: Know anything the teams set to hold their first practice

1151
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 7: back from break later. This AFTERNOON but i would be

1152
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 7: a little bit, Surprised here jake if we don't see

1153
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 7: him in the next week.

1154
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 8: Or so.

1155
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 7: Make his pacers DEBUT because i think it would, be

1156
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 7: valuable but we do not.

1157
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 8: Know anything it's by, the.

1158
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: Way sure you tell me if you have any intel, on,

1159
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: this okay which has nothing to do With the, pacers

1160
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: admittedly but. Selfishly SPEAKING so i do a public LEAGUE

1161
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: On Espn. FANTASY basketball i do this, Every, year scott

1162
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: because it really is a good way to keep tabs

1163
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: on players across the league and what they're doing and

1164
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: who's healthy and. Who's Not but i'm also like uber competitive.

1165
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: About it my team right now, is undefeated and the

1166
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: guy that is in second place just Picked Up, off

1167
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: WAIVERS and i was thinking about, doing this he'd meet

1168
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: me to. The punch he just Picked Up. Jason, tatum now,

1169
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: of course that is under the Anticipation that tatum is

1170
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: going to give him a push in. The, playoffs here

1171
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: do you Believe that tatum will play? This year and,

1172
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: if so will he get to the point where He's

1173
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: The jason tatum that?

1174
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 4: We?

1175
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 7: Know, yeah so coming Off, IN achilles i think he's

1176
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 7: like nine months removed, from surgery which would have been

1177
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 7: no chance a, decade ago but now with modern medicines

1178
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 7: changed quite. A bit from, his standpoint it seems like

1179
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 7: he's Taking The aaron, rodgers approach meaning he, said it

1180
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 7: he set a timeframe and a goal, to return and

1181
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 7: that's what he's, working towards whether it happens, or NOT

1182
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 7: because i think they'll get to the point whenever that

1183
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 7: is that he and the team doctors will look at him, and,

1184
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 7: say hey it's, worth it, or no. It's not in

1185
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 7: the Way the celtics season, is going maybe it will be.

1186
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 7: WORTH it i tend to try to take the more

1187
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 7: conservative approach and have the big picture thinking for a

1188
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 7: twenty seven. Year OLD but i would say that's a

1189
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 7: smart pickup by your guy in the, pool there because

1190
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 7: if he, does return you know he's going to be

1191
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 7: one of the main featured. Guys here in, The, FACT

1192
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 7: jake i thought we might have got tipped off a

1193
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 7: little bit. BY this nbc announced During The All star

1194
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 7: game they're working on a documentary about him taking fans behind,

1195
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 7: the scenes including a practice and a workout At Hinkle

1196
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 7: field house when they Were.

1197
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 8: In indy all those.

1198
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 7: Dots seem to suggest he's on schedule to try to

1199
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 7: make a return, This season.

1200
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: But Does, he okay here's, the REASON and i ask

1201
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: this also somewhat because it does a little bit Relate

1202
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: To tyrese haliburton and just give you. AN indication i

1203
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: know every player, is different every body, is different but

1204
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: when you look at, for example and it's.

1205
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: All important here my.

1206
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: Fantasy, league right everybody cares about your, fantasy team as,

1207
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: we know but the playoffs for my fantasy basketball league.

1208
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: Is done. April fifth the championship Would be.

1209
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: April, fifth now he's not going to be playing at

1210
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: the high Level by, april, Fifth right he's going to

1211
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: still be on a, minute restriction?

1212
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,479
Speaker 2: ISN'T he i would.

1213
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 8: Think.

1214
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 7: SO yeah i mean a lot of suggested is in the,

1215
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 7: coming weeks is Like a march first or whatever. The

1216
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 7: date but, either, way yes if he does eventually get back,

1217
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 7: THIS season i would expect him to be at a,

1218
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 7: lower minutes, lower usage not be the, featured guy but

1219
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 7: more as a thread out there and able to knock,

1220
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,479
Speaker 7: down shots attack on. THE dribble i think he would

1221
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 7: be kind of your sixth seventh man if you're thinking

1222
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 7: a general team at that time frame for him to,

1223
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 7: get back because you'll want to ease yourself.

1224
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: Into, it eddie you said you had a question ABOUT the, Wnba.

1225
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 6: Yeah scott where do we sit right now BETWEEN the

1226
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 6: cba negotiations Between The players association and the.

1227
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 7: W itself FROM what, I, gather eddie good question is

1228
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 7: that there's been progress made THAT the wnba responded To

1229
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 7: The players association here in the last week or two

1230
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 7: something That The players association said they had not heard

1231
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 7: from the league and.

1232
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 8: With kind of a rebuttal for more than. A month

1233
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 8: so we've.

1234
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 7: Had that We Saw, adam SILVER and i think this

1235
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 7: is important from the, league's standpoint for him to come

1236
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 7: out firmly, and, say, hey look we're feeling the pressure

1237
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 7: they need to get. Something done he says he doesn't

1238
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 7: have too much of, a rule but if they need

1239
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 7: him to take on a, larger role. He will but it's, Go.

1240
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 7: TIME eddie I think i would be very concerned if

1241
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 7: there's nothing done by the end of, the month because the,

1242
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 7: reality is let's say they, agree today then it takes

1243
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 7: lawyers and everybody two three four weeks at least right

1244
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 7: to get That set and as we've outlined in, previous

1245
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 7: conversations they have so much to get done between now,

1246
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 7: And THEN so i view these next two weeks as

1247
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 7: critical for everything to be starting, on, time.

1248
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 6: RIGHT because, i mean what ninety percent of the league

1249
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 6: is a, Free, agent like they have so many teams that,

1250
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 6: need players and players need to fight teams, and start,

1251
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 6: you know. Training camp you've got to start planning for

1252
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 6: the draft all that. Stuff too what are some of

1253
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 6: the sticking points that you've been able to hear on

1254
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 6: the players association side and then on the owner's side

1255
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 6: of things that they're wanting to or that they're working on.

1256
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 7: Right, now yeah worst of all is you got two

1257
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 7: teams without any players because of the. Expansion draft obviously

1258
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 7: that needs to be held coming Up for toronto And.

1259
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 7: For portland the number One thing eddie seems, to be

1260
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 7: how do we divide? The money and do we divide

1261
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 7: it based on gross income or net income when it

1262
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 7: comes down. To IT because wnba as, A whole, i

1263
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 7: mean the, new MONEY new tv money has not kicked in.

1264
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 7: Just yet that starts, this year and that's where they

1265
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 7: should start. Taking off but remember they've been taking a

1266
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 7: hit the last couple, of years even more so because

1267
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 7: of the charter flights and that they enacted really a

1268
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 7: year or two earlier than they kind of had. Planned

1269
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 7: for but that's i think the commissioner said that costs

1270
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 7: him about twenty million dollars a year. By ITSELF so

1271
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 7: i think how they divide up income is the number,

1272
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 7: one thing and it's complicated because there are several interested or,

1273
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 7: not interested several owners when it comes down to it WITH,

1274
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 7: the nba with the special group that they organized several,

1275
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 7: years ago and then of COURSE the. Wnba OWNERSHIP so

1276
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 7: i think that is. Number one and then there are

1277
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 7: little details along, the way whether, it's housing what level

1278
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 7: of housing. HAS provided i think stuff in terms of

1279
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 7: daycare and maternity leave and those, those things, retirement benefits

1280
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 7: all those that are. Always discussed but the number one

1281
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 7: sticking point seems to be how much of the pie

1282
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 7: do you? Divide up and is it the full pie

1283
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 7: or just the pie that's kind of left over after bills.

1284
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: Are, paid scott if you were to give yourself, two

1285
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: months which of these three things From The winter olympics

1286
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: would you least likely.

1287
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: Die, from okay.

1288
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna just put you on that skeleton and you're

1289
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: going to run through that course headfirst on that little.

1290
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: Skeleton.

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Speaker 1: Sled delio you got to go down the halfpipe on

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Speaker 1: a snowboard and get at least fifteen feet of air

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01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: and spin before coming. Back down or you just got

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01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: to simply do one of those cross country ski things

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Speaker 1: where everybody that, gets done even though they Are trained,

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: olympic athletes seemingly collapse and like fall asleep as soon as.

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Speaker 2: They're done which of the three would?

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Speaker 7: You pick certainly not number two where you're jumping an

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Speaker 7: off air.

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Speaker 8: No chance as, a.

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Speaker 2: Guy have you seen have you seen the one where they're?

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: Skiing backwards often.

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Speaker 7: They honestly Have Not why i'm Not A winter olympics,

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01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 7: type GUY so i haven't watched much.

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01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: Of, it unfortunately that fall into the Category Of john.

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01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: Hughes films there's a there's a thing where they they

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: skate backwards like into a have you seen? This eddie

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01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: the backwards are not skate ski, they're skiing but they

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01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: ski backwards down an air ramp and then like twist

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Speaker 1: and contort and then have to land basically like is

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01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: if you're doing doing a, Gymnastics exercise there's.

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Speaker 2: Zero chance right.

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Speaker 7: To me it's got to be the skeleton sled where

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01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 7: you just lay down and use your body to contort

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01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,479
Speaker 7: and MOVE and i.

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01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 1: Know you're heading at seventy one mph into an ice

1317
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: wall head, FIRST man i mean, you better you better

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01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: mind your piece.

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01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: Of, Ques, right.

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Speaker 7: YEAH maybe i think that beats going airborn in your

1321
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 7: second option though with cross. Country true, What's?

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Speaker 2: That eddie? Is It The?

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Speaker 6: Big Air The Freasky? Big air is that what we were?

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Speaker 6: TALKING about i think that? Sounds, right Yeah The?

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Speaker 2: Big? Air right doesn't? That?

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: Sound now that sounds like some sort of a bad

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Speaker 1: Mid Eighties kevin, Bacon Movie The. Big Air kevin bacon

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Speaker 1: he used to be a, basketball manager but now he's

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01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: become a star In The big air' that's what that.

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Speaker 2: Sounds, like right, All right pacers whiz. Tomorrow night scott

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Speaker 2: will have it.

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Speaker 1: All Covered Field house files, Appreciate, it scott, All right, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You Jake scott agnes joining us On The Java House

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Speaker 1: cold brew.

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Speaker 2: Guest line