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Speaker 1: But today it was clean out the human or clean

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Speaker 1: a flavored cigar that can't be good. It's eat, drink smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz and that right there is America's favorite

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Speaker 1: amateur drinker, Fingers Molloy Fingers. We like the people at

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Speaker 1: CL Christian Roea, good guy people. CL do some fine

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Speaker 1: work with the cl brand, with the Aroa brand, and

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Speaker 1: with the Asylum of brand. We've done them Madu la

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Speaker 1: Blongata on the show A Host of Cigars, This is

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Speaker 1: the Asylum zero zero. So there's three of these and

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're still making these. This

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Speaker 1: originally was under a licensing agreement with a group if

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Speaker 1: and things like that. And then there was a lawsuit

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Speaker 1: and then they changed the name to the Asylum. Eight

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Speaker 1: six seven zero is what they call this one right here,

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Speaker 1: Maduro rapper, this is Hon Duram throughout. The toro is

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Speaker 1: what we're dealing with right here. And the toro comes

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Speaker 1: in at six six by fifty. This is six by fifty,

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Speaker 1: which means it's six inches long. Always makes fringers from

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Speaker 1: boy laugh. And the ring gauge is the fifty the

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Speaker 1: But in order to make this right, this is infused. Now.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes cigars are dipped, and supposedly this does have a

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Speaker 1: So that's how this one is done. As a matter

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Speaker 1: of just our own every day, neither one of us

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Speaker 1: is flavored cigar guys. Is that is not an accurate assessment.

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Speaker 1: That's a very accurate as when we say it's an

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Speaker 1: That's correct. That is correct. Yeah, not not where I

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Speaker 1: I mean, the acids are popular. The whole deadwood thing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then the folks that put the Asylum together put

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Speaker 1: That Okay, little gift bag there, so I just lit

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Speaker 1: Standards are standards kids. What do you eat today? What

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Speaker 1: never again. See what I wow, c LA love you.

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Speaker 1: This is just not where I live and breathe. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I totally get why someone would like

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I hate to use this term tony because

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's very pretty. I love the I

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Speaker 1: And I can see where people can find pleasure in this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: It's like I'm eating a Snicker's bar and then I'm

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Speaker 1: Oh that's not bad, that's not bad. The problem is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's also that chocolate from the candy bar

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Speaker 2: That would be a snookers By exactly, which I'm sure

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Speaker 2: many kids got handed to them. Over the Halloween holiday,

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Speaker 1: Should say, did they really? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is this cigar in your human or Phil? Tell you

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Speaker 1: fingers I don't want to throw too much at you.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to completely discombobulate your your your taste buds.

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Speaker 1: Because what we do here is we review cigars, We

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Speaker 1: We make people fall in love. I have heard that

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Speaker 1: United States of America named Fingers just because of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they all call me Dad.

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Speaker 1: Tea drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That right there is

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Speaker 1: Daddy molloy. And you know, reviewing a flavored cigar is

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Speaker 1: buds are. We'll get into this cigar from Cla and

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Speaker 1: by the way, we love you Cla. We do. There's

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Speaker 1: to the Little Children's ribbon candy. Oh oh no, and

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Speaker 1: we're blowing up pallettes, let's just ruin it. Fingers, would

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Speaker 1: you say that the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup is the

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Speaker 2: One of them?

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Speaker 1: Yes, you would.

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Speaker 2: It's a top fiver, it's a top three, and the

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Speaker 2: Jack o Lantern. Oh nice, much more peanut butter.

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Speaker 1: The peanut butter cup, then the kit kat is in

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Speaker 1: the top three, and then uh, the Hershey's Crackle.

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Speaker 2: You just wanted to say, crackle?

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Speaker 1: Really? Can I say one thing before you continue? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was at a gas station today.

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Speaker 1: to Fingers boy in the field.

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Speaker 2: Fingers, they had a display at the register. I believe

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Speaker 2: I didn't look at it too closely. Because I didn't

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Speaker 2: want to buy it a half a pound of Reese's

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Speaker 2: peanut butter cups, but there were only two cups there were,

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Speaker 2: and there were it was twenty dollars. I almost bought

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Speaker 2: it just for the show. That's I Got You beat.

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Speaker 1: Because what would happen if somebody added jelly to Terese's

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Speaker 1: peanut butter cup. I'm listening this right here is Reese's

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Speaker 1: peb and j Reese's decided, Hey, how about we ruin

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Speaker 1: smell the bag, smell in.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell if that's wonderful or awful.

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Speaker 1: Right, this is insane. They've got it in grape, Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: right there? And then uh then a strawberry. Oh right,

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Speaker 1: This isn't a Jersey diner. They have no orange marmalade.

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Speaker 1: So the grape and the mar and the marmalade and

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Speaker 1: the strawberry.

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Speaker 2: Era.

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Speaker 1: Now we have had this conversation peanut butter and jelly,

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Speaker 1: strawberry or or or grape, and I I have said,

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Speaker 1: quite clearly, quite clearly, it's the strawberry. I would always

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Speaker 2: And it's it's it's it's not good.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's better. You finished it, well, of course

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Speaker 1: This isn't cute. Don't screw with perfection. The strawberry one's better. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The grape is really over wwhelming sweet, but not in

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Speaker 2: It is a quick cash grab. It's like caddy shack too.

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Speaker 2: That's what that is right there. It's caddy shack too

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Speaker 3: It's we have something perfect, we can't just be happy

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Speaker 2: And we'll make it a little familiar. We'll put Chevy

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Speaker 1: How many years have we been doing the show? Six

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Speaker 1: that might be the funniest thing you've ever said on

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Speaker 1: godfather three. Take your pack? No oh oh, oh, you

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Speaker 1: fingers maloy from cle We are smoking the Asylum zero.

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Speaker 1: We cleaned out the class kids, cleaned out the humid or,

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Speaker 1: flavored cigars. And I'm telling you right now, not my cigar.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not where I live. Where I live is Defiance Beef.

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Speaker 1: But I love the notes of tobacco. I love finding

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Speaker 1: You talk about one of those Vanilla starbu strinks that

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Speaker 2: I'll finish it like I did the grape Reese's peanut

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Speaker 2: dissipating a little bit. But you know, the first third

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Speaker 1: It's place in the market, yes, which is really kind

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Speaker 1: There is a place for near everything. There is a

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Speaker 1: Those weren't flavored.

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Speaker 1: Is this the asylum eight six seven zero? I believe

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Speaker 1: it's just so not me. And I want to be clear.

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Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with Cla z Row which

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Speaker 2: of the belts. These news organizations continue to shrink, and

431
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Speaker 2: you seem very surprised, Tony. Yeah, yeah, what's what's what's.

432
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Speaker 1: What else you got? I single family, rent? No, no, no, no, no, no,

433
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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't seem to bring myself to care.

434
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Speaker 1: Oh listen, people lose jobs and and and that's things.

435
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Speaker 1: And I'm not in very few cases am I hoping

436
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Speaker 1: somebody loses their job. Uh, it's It's just that when

437
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: it happens in the news industry, I'm told what a

438
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: big deal it is. When happens in any other industry,

439
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm told those people should learn to code. And so

440
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Speaker 1: I'm not I won't bring myself to shed tears at

441
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: all for the news industry. Of course, you're losing jobs.

442
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: The whole world is changing. The industry has changed, and

443
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: you're not vaunted because you haven't taken care of us.

444
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: And we should not care. If a if a news

445
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: outlet which gave us dan rather and so desperately, I mean, listen,

446
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: he made up stories about George Bush and they engaged

447
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: in editing a video of Donald Trump. This isn't about

448
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: your politics, It's about what they did. And now they're

449
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: they're losing jobs because people are going on the places,

450
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: sponsors are going other places, and technology is coming in. Yeah,

451
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: and and maybe maybe it does get personal for me.

452
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: And I shouldn't be a guy who engages this personally.

453
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Speaker 1: I should be like, yes, well, you know, the industry changes,

454
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Speaker 1: but there is a little bit of personal in it

455
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Speaker 1: for me in that these people they didn't take care

456
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Speaker 1: of the American people. Well, so I'm not going to

457
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Speaker 1: say anything except I hope it all works out.

458
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Speaker 2: I prefer it when you do take it personally.

459
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: Well then, uh, then I'll get to that next. Fingers Maloy,

460
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: There are allegedly things that men do with a midlife crisis,

461
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: things they do in a midlife crisis, things they do

462
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Speaker 1: when they're around a midlife crisis.

463
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Speaker 2: Is that true or is that just a media narrative.

464
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Speaker 1: Oh? I think it's probably true.

465
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Speaker 2: Huh what if your whole life has been a crisis,

466
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Speaker 2: almost your entire life.

467
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Speaker 1: Pretty sure you do a radio showing podcast. There it

468
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Speaker 1: is d Drink Smoke im Tony Katz, and that is

469
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Speaker 1: America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers Maloy. Are the people over

470
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Speaker 1: at vegeoutmag dot com what kind of free time do

471
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Speaker 1: you have fingers Malo.

472
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Speaker 2: There's sometimes Tony where I just sit back and want

473
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Speaker 2: to veg out.

474
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: You're like, I need a magazine to help me through this.

475
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Speaker 2: And thank god we have veg Out mag Dot. Come

476
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Speaker 2: I do you are you subscriber? You kick the monthly

477
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Speaker 2: magazine delivered to your house.

478
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Speaker 1: All I know is saying the words vetg out mag

479
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: sounds dirty.

480
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: It does a little bit, It's not right a little bit.

481
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: Eight purchases men make that screen midlife crisis louder than

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Speaker 1: a red sports card. And we have discussed the fact

483
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Speaker 1: that I will speak for myself, but I think I

484
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: do speak for fingers. Neither one of us went through

485
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Speaker 1: a midlife no, neverse not. But I do find the

486
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Speaker 1: whole Well, we'll get into this. I will hold my

487
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Speaker 1: tongue until we get into this list because I do

488
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: have a bone to pick with one of the narratives

489
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Speaker 1: about a midlife crisis. By the way, we switch cigars

490
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Speaker 1: to the Oliva or Oli a v A Millennio Robusto,

491
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Speaker 1: which I always keep in the humid or love you

492
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Speaker 1: c L will always smoke your products, just not the

493
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: flavor is what it is, nothing more, nothing less, so

494
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Speaker 1: here's the list. Eight things that prove a what is

495
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: that a mid life crisis? Yes, more than a read

496
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Speaker 1: sports car? The home gym that costs more than a car,

497
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Speaker 1: like if you get like the full peloton ecosystem.

498
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Speaker 2: Sometimes what oh do I look like I bought.

499
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Speaker 1: A home gym? Looking like you bought a home gym

500
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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with whether or not you bought

501
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Speaker 1: a home Jim, I.

502
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Speaker 2: Have not bought a home gym.

503
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Speaker 1: But what bothers me?

504
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: Because I've had this discussion with female friends who were younger,

505
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Speaker 2: who when they see a man in his fifties with

506
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: a sports car, they say, nice car, Sorry about your

507
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 2: and it's like the go down the whole midlife crisis thing,

508
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: and it's like, listen, I tried to explain to them,

509
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: for a lot of guys who are passionate about vehicles, okay,

510
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: they can't afford a sports car when they're in their

511
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Speaker 2: twenties and thirties because a lot of times they're raising

512
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Speaker 2: a family and can't get that sports car. It's not

513
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: a midlife price. It's this I can finally afford it

514
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Speaker 2: inserts sports car here.

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Speaker 1: But you're the first person I ever really say that

516
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Speaker 1: to me. In that way. You know, I was, I

517
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: was thinking about a Mustang, and I was like, I

518
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: don't know if I could be a guy who gets

519
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Speaker 1: away with a Mustang. He's like, would you just shut

520
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: your stupid dirty mouth and get a Mustang already? And

521
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: you're you're right, And I didn't buy a Mustang. But

522
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: the point is, but did you get the home gym?

523
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: I sure did, and I got it with the extra

524
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: fluffy cushion. The point is, you're absolutely right. The the

525
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: who cares? Who cares what somebody else is going to get?

526
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: They don't know anything about life. It's and it's meaningless.

527
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: So sometimes the midlife crisis conversation is nothing more than

528
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: the midlife opportunity conversation. That's a good way to put

529
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: it right, and there's nothing nothing wrong with that. Uh,

530
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: You've you've engaged your responsibilities. You have succeeded in providing

531
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Speaker 1: to the best of your ability to your responsibilities. Now

532
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: you can change those responsibilities, go have fun. The sudden

533
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: Vinyl collection Also, I don't think there's anything to do

534
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: with the midlife crisis. I think this just means your

535
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: pretentious as hell. No man, Seriously, Vinyl has such a

536
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: richness to the sound. You can't get that from digital, man,

537
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: Only vinyl can do it. Here listen by Steely dan Man.

538
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: Listen to it in vinyl. If you listen to it digital,

539
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: you might as well just poke yourself in the eye

540
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: with a hot stick. Oh my god, so great on

541
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: the vinyl, Man, I got this needle from Turkmenistan. It

542
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: took four different specialized priests in order to make it.

543
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: I had to sacrifice two cows in order to get

544
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: this done. Man, this is awesome. He said that to nobody,

545
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: by the way, because who would hang out with him?

546
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: Although that said, I do like vinyl. I think it sounds. Ah.

547
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: I will say this about vinyl, and it has nothing

548
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: to do with the sound quality. Gen X is kind

549
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: of the last generation that had the vinyl, and then

550
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: you morphed into the CDs and now we're completely into

551
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: the digital world. There was something about running and getting

552
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: that record album and then opening up the in the

553
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: you know, looking at the jacket and seeing the tracks.

554
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: Maybe the lyrics were the whole thing was like a

555
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 2: whole It was exciting. Oh those were the days, Tony.

556
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: There's no way to explain to somebody who was not

557
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: in gen X, the idea of your Walkman and cassette tapes,

558
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: and then realizing that in a CD you could skip

559
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: to the next song yep, and then you could go

560
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: back whoop. That was revelatory revelation. Do you know what

561
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: it was like with an eight track? And you couldn't

562
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: just take the pencil and rewind the song in the cassette? No, no, no,

563
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: you had to listen to the whole crap album to

564
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: get back to the song you wanted.

565
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: It's true. And the other thing too about the CD

566
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: was being able to put a track on repeat right.

567
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: You can't do that with a record album. You have

568
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 2: to get up, walk all the way over, pick up

569
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Speaker 2: the arm, put the needle back on the try and

570
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: of course you can't do it perfectly. I'm not a DJ,

571
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm not Wolfman Jack, and so you got to put

572
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: it back on the line just right to be able

573
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: to hear the song perfectly again.

574
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: Correct answer we were looking forward was Alan Freed.

575
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Speaker 2: Oh, Alan Freed, Okay, I'll try better next time.

576
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: The motorcycle he's afraid to ride. No, that's not a

577
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: midlife crisis, that's being a schmuck. What's the point that's

578
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: being a schmuck.

579
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Speaker 2: I don't understand the point to to be able to

580
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: brag your friends you have a motorcycle, don't get one.

581
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: Just don't get one. Get the sports car. You can

582
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: find one vintage that you know isn't a classic for

583
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: the same price as a motorcycle, easily, just get the car.

584
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Speaker 1: But do But do you know anybody who's done that.

585
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking an acdotally, of course. Do you

586
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: know anybody who's bought a motorcycle is like, I just

587
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: have it to have it? Know me?

588
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: Either, what's the I can understand buying a motorcycle before

589
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: you go through what you should do, which is gets

590
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: go and get safety training and take the classes. And

591
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: you bought it for some reason before you took the

592
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: classes and then realized, oh my gosh, this is not

593
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Speaker 2: for me. Okay, you made a mistake. But to buy

594
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Speaker 2: one just to tell your friends you have a motorcycle

595
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Speaker 2: and then you're scared to ride it. That what a waste. Yeah,

596
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: and by the way, riding a motorcycle is freaking awesome.

597
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm never gonna do it, never going to do it.

598
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Speaker 1: And then here's one the watch that cost his kids

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Speaker 1: yearly tuition. Nope. Now, you guys know I work with

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Speaker 1: Thrilled to be their brand ambassador. I'm designing watches with them.

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Speaker 1: I wear one all the time, wearing one right now.

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Speaker 2: I love what they do, love it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I've got a Rolex there, so actually, right there,

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Speaker 1: I've got a Tutor. I've got a rare Tutor, which

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Speaker 1: is like a baby Rolex, the Advisor, which actually has

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Speaker 1: an alarm in. It's a ringing bell in the watch. Nice,

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Speaker 1: it's super cool. A first real time piece I had

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Speaker 1: is a nineteen fifty nine Hamilton Phinematic. I mean I

614
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Speaker 1: do have a small collection. There is nothing wrong with

615
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Speaker 1: having the one time purchase of the sub Mariner, or

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Speaker 1: of the Autumnar or of maybe for you it's a

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Speaker 1: tag write a little bit less expensive there, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with that. This has to do with whether or

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Speaker 1: not you have fulfilled your responsibilities and you are rewarding

620
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Speaker 1: yourself there is nothing wrong with the reward, and that's

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Speaker 1: to make this piece. This piece is dopey. This piece

622
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Speaker 1: is saying you shouldn't enjoy the things you enjoy. They

623
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Speaker 1: should kiss off.

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Speaker 2: Well, the only thing I will say, judge out, and

625
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: that's what they should do. But having said that, I

626
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: will say, if you are choosing to watch over providing

627
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Speaker 2: for your family, then that's.

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Speaker 1: Oh big freaking problem.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's that could be crisis. Yes, I know I

631
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Speaker 1: have to feed you, but I'd rather have this decoration

632
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Speaker 1: on my wrist. Yeah, that's that's not even a mid

633
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: life crisis. That's just not being a man.

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Speaker 2: Five thirty is dinner time. I know it's five thirty,

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Speaker 2: but unfortunately we don't.

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Speaker 1: Have any food. Right, but if it fills you up

637
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Speaker 1: to look at the time. By the way, you can

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Speaker 1: You get it butchered exactly the way you want it,

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Speaker 1: and it's delivered directly to your door, frozen in the

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647
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Speaker 1: told you that I cleaned out the human or yes,

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Speaker 1: you did cleaning out the closets.

666
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Speaker 2: Clean out your closet too.

667
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: Getting rid of the things that have been in the

668
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Speaker 1: human or have been in the liquor cabinet. We've all

669
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Speaker 1: been there. You're like, I have not had this yet.

670
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: It has been years or it has been months, and

671
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: I just avoid it and I move on to something else,

672
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: and I just side in my head and there's something

673
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: wrong with it, but I yet don't have the mental

674
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: discipline to get rid of it. It's like me with

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Speaker 1: my roller blades. It is God, I was gonna say that,

676
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Speaker 1: sn you read my mind. I've got powers, tea drinks,

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Speaker 1: smoke com Tony Kats, And that is America's favorite amateur drinker,

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Speaker 1: Fingers molloy. There is a group called Old fifty five.

679
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Speaker 1: Old fifty five Distillery. They're good people. Jason Fruits, that

680
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: whole team, they're really absolutely excellent, and they do some beautiful, beautiful,

681
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: beautiful bourbons. They're the single barrels. They do a sweet

682
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: Horn bourbon and then they do this the Wabash cannonball. Now,

683
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: I must admit the level I know about the Wabash

684
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: Cannonball is zero, because this is not a bourbon. This

685
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: is an American whiskey. All bourbons are whiskeys, but not

686
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: all whiskies are bourbons. The Wabash cannibal our cannonball, thank

687
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: you very much, is named after a song, Oh the

688
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: good people at Crowned Heads who we love and adore

689
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: had a cigar, the Wabash cannonball. So this is named

690
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: after a song, a country music song that's out there.

691
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: I think it goes back to like nineteen oh three,

692
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: is what doesn't say? It's had like a host of

693
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: other names. So that's the name of this Old fifty five.

694
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: It's the Wabash Wabash Cannonball. The Wabash River is a

695
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: river in Indiana. The problem is I started looking for

696
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: information about this. What could I learn about this this whiskey?

697
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: And I found zero? Nothing on the Old fifty five

698
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: Distillery dot com website, nothing in form of a review. Zero.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where I got it. I don't know

700
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Speaker 1: how long I've had it. I do know it was

701
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: never opened until we opened it right now, Fingers Maloy so.

702
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: What say you, let's go for it. So this would

703
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: be like eight years old, right for all we.

704
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Speaker 1: Know as far, I have no idea when this came out,

705
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: no clue in the slightest. What I do know is

706
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Speaker 1: that is a very light color. That is a very

707
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: that is like water down apple juice. I was gonna say,

708
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: light beer, right, light beer. That nicely done, well played

709
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: right there, and I'm going to say no viscosity, very

710
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: very non thick. And as for the nose, that's a

711
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: that's a fair amount of all children. Wow, that's a

712
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: that's a fair amount of Hey, how would you like

713
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: to how'd you like to be noticed? Huh?

714
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: Are you getting orchard too?

715
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: There is definitely a fruit going on for sure. Now.

716
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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to say green apple,

717
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: but it.

718
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: You are on fire today. The orchard's really good. The

719
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: green apple I don't know about. Wow.

720
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's ethanol there.

721
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: The athanol is a presence?

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Speaker 2: Is that old?

723
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Speaker 1: But orchard is right? I don't I don't am nowhere

724
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: near oak on this from all fifteen When you have

725
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: to say is that oak? Yeah, it's probably not oak.

726
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: It's probably like an oak veneer. Wow. Right, that's like saying,

727
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: is that oak and then you realize you're in Ikea.

728
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not oak. But honestly, the ethanol is

729
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: really there. But it is. Orchard's really good. There's a

730
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Speaker 1: fruit and as it stays in the in the nose,

731
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: it gets a little thicker, gets a little richer. It's interesting.

732
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Speaker 1: Fingers boy, I have no idea. All I know it's

733
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Speaker 1: forty percent alcohol by volume for eighty proofs and no

734
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Speaker 1: applause from fingers mo oy. It doesn't plug for anything

735
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: that isn't at least one hundred proof. But uh, you

736
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: you ready for this?

737
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: Been ready for this all day.

738
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Speaker 1: Fingers moy is doing what's known as the Kentucky chew

739
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: right there on the old fifty five wabash, a cannonball

740
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: American whiskey, moving the juice around the palate, getting a

741
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: feel for it. I like the two SIPs method, the

742
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: first zip to set the taste buds and the second

743
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: sip to really get an idea of where those flavors are.

744
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: Fingers is going back in, ladies and gentlemen. This is

745
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: a first. He's going back in for a second sip.

746
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 1: Wait this just in that's not a first. He does

747
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: that very often. Why why though, Okay, all right.

748
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on here.

749
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: Why I have.

750
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: It's that orchard is there almost like an apple. It's

751
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: still there. It's still there. To me, there's an oak.

752
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: There is a hint. And I'm going back and forth.

753
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: And I shouldn't be going back and forth over these two,

754
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: but I am a hint of either vanilla or honey.

755
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: It's so it's it's it's not pronounced. It's not something

756
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: that punches you in the face. It's it's a hint.

757
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: There is very little sting, a little uh sting on

758
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: the tongue, very little warmth in the chest. And yeah,

759
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: I think that's all I got.

760
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: Wait, it's not vanilla and honey. It's vanilla or honey.

761
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: It must be both. I'm going back and forth on it.

762
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: It's probably both, but it's so subtle, Tony, there's there's

763
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: nothing about this for me other than that orchard at

764
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 2: the beginning that hits me and that oak at the end.

765
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: And so that's that's what I'm going with. We'll go with.

766
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna orchard, little honey, little vanilla, and.

767
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Speaker 1: I'm going in the old fifty five wabash, cannonball, American whiskey.

768
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Speaker 2: He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and he is doing

769
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: what we like to call sagonna swish, the Memphis munch,

770
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: the wah bash wah wah.

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Speaker 1: First, let me say that the ethanol is not what

772
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna get when you drink it. It's warm, but

773
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: it's not spicy. The fruit is absolutely there. That's uh huh.

774
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: That's juicy fruit. That is juicy fruit that lays on

775
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: the tongue. That's what that flavor is. Right, This is

776
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: very very you said green apple. I think green apple

777
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: is a kind of a unique kind of way to

778
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: view things. I'm going more just in a generalized apple,

779
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: but it is that orchard esk, juicy fruit kind of

780
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: thing that's laying down. I actually think this would be

781
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: solid on a cube. I mean, wait, don't be wrong,

782
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: it could get totally washed out on a cube. By

783
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: the way. To finish, heat in the cheek, nothing in

784
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: the throat, nothing, zero in the chest. Zero maybe the

785
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: slightest hint of something. Because I brought it up, I

786
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: incepted myself it's.

787
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: In the cheek, so I wanted to, you know, look up.

788
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: It may be the most subtlest of chocolates.

789
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I wanted to look up the flavor for

790
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 2: a profile juicy fruit, just to refresh my memory because

791
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: it's been a long time. A blend of bananas, pineapple,

792
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: and other tropical fruits like lemon, orange, and peach.

793
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nothing like juicy fruit. That's what it reminded

794
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: me of.

795
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: That's it's interesting.

796
00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: It is. Its problem is how is it's it's it's

797
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: This is gonna sound dumb. It's a little one dimensional,

798
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: it's a little thin. But again, it's not bourbon, so

799
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: Lord only knows the amount of time it's spent in

800
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: a barrel or anything else. So there's a level of

801
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: complexity that I don't know why it's. It shouldn't be there,

802
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: should it not? Don't have the answer. The old fifty five.

803
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: I do like Old fifty five. I like those guys

804
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: quite a bit. This is the Wabash cannon ball. If

805
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 1: you find it, try it. By the way, I don't

806
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: even know how much it costs a bottle. I don't

807
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: know where I found it. We're just cleaning out the

808
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: liquor cabinet and we decided let's drink it. We informed

809
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: everybody that things are tough in the bourbon world. But

810
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: sometimes things are happening that have nothing to do with

811
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: what's making things tough in the bourbon worlds Eat, drink, smoke.

812
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker.

813
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: Fingers molloy. You may have heard the story that Karen

814
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: is considered during a sale of four roses selling the

815
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: brand the I mean four freaking' roses for a billion dollars.

816
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Now you say, oh my gosh, a billion dollars, I say,

817
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: I think that would have been well over a billion

818
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: just five years ago. It's four roses. I mean, the

819
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: small Batch Select is still in my top five. I

820
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: love the small Batch Select. It's an incredible thing to

821
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: think that they would unload it. But sometimes a conversation

822
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: like that, while they're going to get less now than

823
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: they would have I say, five years ago, a conversation

824
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: like that is because Kieran has its own issues. Kieran

825
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: sees things going in a different direction. Businesses of that size,

826
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: of that magnitude, Fingers, they make moves all the time

827
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: based on needs that we don't quite understand and we

828
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: don't quite know.

829
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just we're documenting this over the course of

830
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: the last few years. It's it's amazing, you know, the

831
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: struggles that the bourbon industry has gone through between supply

832
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: chain issues in COVID and oh my gosh, there gonna

833
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: be a shortage of barrels because business is so red

834
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: hot to now all of a sudden, you're seeing distilleries

835
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: filing for bankruptcy, closing up shop in just a blink

836
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: of an eye, and you wonder if we've reached the

837
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: floor yet or if it's going to go even lower

838
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 2: for the bourbon industry.

839
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: So that's one story, and people could say, ooh, there's

840
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: something up with bourbon. Not necessarily we don't know yet,

841
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: we don't have enough data yet to tell us. Then

842
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: we have the story of Uncle Nearest. So the brand

843
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: Uncle Nearest and Uncle nearst is a really interesting story

844
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: because the brand is based on the slave that taught

845
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels how to be a distiller. Now, to the

846
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: extent that the story is true or not true or

847
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: anything else, I'll let others play in that game. And

848
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: Nearest became Jack daniels first master distiller. Right, that's the story,

849
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: and everything else I'm just saying, I don't know how

850
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: much is on n percent perfectly accurate. They faced Chapter

851
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: eleven bankruptcy and that means a forced asset sale as well.

852
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: You could argue, man, this says a lot about what's

853
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: going on in Bourbon. This is one of those moments'

854
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: fingers where the things we say have to be very

855
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: very clear and very very general because it could get

856
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: you very very sued in a very very court of law.

857
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: Go on, you understand what I'm saying, Yes, as long

858
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: as we all understand what we're saying. There's a lot

859
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: of stories about whether or not Uncle Nearest was run properly,

860
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: and we have all seen businesses that have been mismanaged.

861
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: I cannot prove by any stretch that there was any mismanagement,

862
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: and I am not making that accusation. I don't know.

863
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't have any inside knowledge. What I do know

864
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: is that they are selling off non core assets. The

865
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: story from the street at dot com It includes French vineyards,

866
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: a Cognact, chateau and other real estate to try and

867
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: get things stabilized. So let's go back into why does

868
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: Uncle Nears own a French vineyard, a Cognact chateau and

869
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: what other real estate. One could argue it's because they

870
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: were going to build the brand out and they built

871
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: too fast. They ran before they knew how to walk,

872
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: and they didn't have the financial leverage in the bourbon industry. Whoop,

873
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: the bottom fell out and they're like, oh crap, we

874
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: can't make this debt payment. I can't imagine what the

875
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: debt structure is on the thing. It could be something else, fingers.

876
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: So here's two really interesting stories that may have nothing

877
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: to do with where bourbon is, except we know where

878
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: bourbon is and it's not in a great spot. It's

879
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: crazy these two stories are up.

880
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: It is, but it does a lend for us to

881
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: have a topic that we can widely speculate.

882
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen's time for eat, drink, smokes while speculation.

883
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: So here's his first speculat. No, I'm not gonna do

884
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: any of that because I don't want to get sued. No,

885
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: but you do bring up a good point, because let's

886
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 2: just let's talk about another bourbon company that doesn't exist,

887
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: Billy's Bourbon Company. Say, it had a long history. The

888
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: name was synonymous with with whiskey and bourbon, and then

889
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: all of a sudden it's facing financial troubles and it

890
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: may have been mismanaged. You may be able to get

891
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: way away with some of that in a world where

892
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: Bourbon is hot.

893
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: Yes, that is so beyond accurate. And I have had

894
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: a couple of people engage that conversation with me that

895
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: if all was good in Bourbon and people are still

896
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: buying it flying off the shelves, it's possible some of

897
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: the issues would never be seen, or the issues could

898
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: be seen as oooh, all right, but the sales are good.

899
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: We'll work our way out of this. What is good

900
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: at what is possible in a good cycle, and what

901
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: happens in a bad cycle, and how you prepare for

902
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: those things. That is a thousand percent accurate as an observation, fingers.

903
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: And it's not a fair comparison because we're talking apples

904
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: and oranges. But you look at other industries, other companies

905
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: that take Amazon for example, that's raking in you know,

906
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: record profits, they're also looking to cut jobs, cut fat.

907
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: If you're being mismanaged, especially in a time of red

908
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: hot sales in your industry, where you should be trimming

909
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: some of the fat if you know it's there you

910
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: may not be able to survive if the business goes

911
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: in the tank.

912
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: So I was doing a little more investigation, and so

913
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: they reported in twenty twenty two. I want to see.

914
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 1: I wonder what other numbers are out there in ten years.

915
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: By the way, they went from taking this couple went

916
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: from taking over the brand to opening their own distillery

917
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: in Shelbyville, Tennessee, Tennessee, and in twenty twenty two reported

918
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in whiskey sales. Now sales is nonprofit,

919
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but one hundred million dollars. And now,

920
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: according to a couple of reports, they're fighting the receivership.

921
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: They're saying no, no, no, no, no, We've got this. They've

922
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: taken a two and a half million dollar loans to

923
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: pay off some immediate debts and take care of some employees.

924
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: They've laid off twelve people over there. So it is

925
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: a still a developing story, and we may find out

926
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: more as more data comes out. Now, if you start

927
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: hearing about investigations, which I am not alleging in any way,

928
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: shape or form, that'll be something else too that adds

929
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: on to this. But we said might a gosh it

930
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: might have been just last week, and we certainly said

931
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: it the week before. Get ready, you're gonna see people

932
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: go under. You know, we knew that bourbon cells were down,

933
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: But for us, the the Canary and the coal mine

934
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: was Jack Daniels giving up their Cooperridge. When Jack said,

935
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: we're no longer gonna make our own barrels, We'll just

936
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: buy them on the market, when just two years before

937
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: you couldn't find a barrel. You couldn't find a barrel.

938
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: That was the Oh okay, things are different now, things

939
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: are really really different, and smaller makers are gonna have

940
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: a harder time if they're having a harder time get

941
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: it staying on the shelves and don't have the marketing budget,

942
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: and mismanaged companies are gonna get to your point, fingers

943
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: are gonna get totally exposed.

944
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: So let's say the worst happens, and we're talking total liquidation,

945
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: business shuts down. Somebody's buying that name, right, I would assume.

946
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: So now I say that with a caveat what if

947
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: there's no need? You would assume the name means something

948
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: in the name has value just for its history, and

949
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: someone might buy the name just to keep somebody else

950
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: from having the name. That's interesting, but it doesn't mean

951
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: that they'll do the bourbon, because they may have their

952
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: own bourbons to do in their own place on the shelf,

953
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: and they don't need They want to build more of

954
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: this juice that they have time, will time, eat, drink?

955
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,480
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956
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957
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958
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959
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Speaker 1: before it's too late. It won't be too late, but

960
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: you should still get them right now.

961
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: Well, I need to say, and of course when I'm

962
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: saying this, you're thinking shocker. Supplies are limited over at

963
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: Amazon dot com for our books, So make sure you

964
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: go to Amazon dot com today and purchase ten copies.

965
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 1: They're they're they're they're not running out of copies. They're

966
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: just fine over there. We are smoking. Well, we started

967
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: with the Asylum eight six seven zero and it is

968
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: a flavored cigar from cle and the CLA people are fantastic,

969
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: but neither one of us could finish the flavorite cigar.

970
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: It's just we were cleaning out the closets. That's how

971
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: the whole day as begun. What has been stuck in

972
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: the human or what has been stuck in the liquor

973
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: cabinet that we have had? I've had for forever, and

974
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know how I got them, and it's

975
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: time either smoke them, drink them, or throw them away.

976
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Or gift it? My gosh,

977
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: but it's just sitting there. So I decided to pull

978
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: them out. So we had the zero there, the asylum zero.

979
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: It's it's not just not where we live and breathe

980
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: in flavored cigars eleven dollars a stick and might be

981
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: your cup of tea, but just was not not where

982
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: we played. And then this from Old fifty five, which

983
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: is a distillery out of Indiana, Old fifty five five

984
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: to five Old five five Distillery dot com. Jason Fruits,

985
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: great guy, great team over there. This was their Wabash Cannonball.

986
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Now Wabash Cannonball is a song. It's a country song

987
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: from like the early nineteen hundreds. The guys over a

988
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: crowned heads have a cigar. The Wabash cannonball and they've

989
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: got this. This is a whiskey. This is an American

990
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: whiskey right here. A lot of orchard was in this.

991
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: And I had said juicy fruit, and then Fingers said,

992
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like juicy fruit, because I'm a juicy

993
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: fruit expert, and I got I have a certificate from

994
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: the online School of Juicy Fruit University, and that does

995
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: not sound like juicy fruit. So we might be right.

996
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: But it is definitely ethanol in the nose, definitely fruit

997
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: on the nose, and I think orchard fingers right call

998
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: there and that's what there was little thin is how

999
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: I described it.

1000
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: What's a new fingers for me? I put a little

1001
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: bit of cool water in it. And Fruit University, of

1002
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: course has a wonderful basketball team.

1003
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: Right they do.

1004
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: Having said that, I'm gonna be interested to see you

1005
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: got it on a full rock there.

1006
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, two actually very large chips. This isn't a rocks glass,

1007
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: but it's it's what I had. It's like a it's

1008
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: like one of those like tumblr mini like rocks glass

1009
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: yetties your very wine mom, right now, I know, I know,

1010
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: I want to walk around the neighborhood plain about people's kids.

1011
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do.

1012
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: Get off that skateboard. You're on the sidewalk.

1013
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: I do not know how she lives in that house.

1014
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: It is so small. I feel so bad for her

1015
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: and her husband. Not a looker in the slightest. That's

1016
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: your wine mom imitation. That is my that is my

1017
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: all purpose imitation, which I can do unrelenting four hours.

1018
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: Just ask my wife, you want my wine mom imitation? Okay,

1019
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: here it goes.

1020
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: My husband's such an idiot.

1021
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you. I'll be here all week.

1022
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: Try it's pretty good. That was pretty good. Hey, send

1023
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: you a hate mail if you don't mind, to Adam

1024
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: Carolla at yahoo dot com and uh and we'll get

1025
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: we'll get right on that. He'll just forward it over

1026
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: to us. So I've got mine on a cube. You've

1027
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: got yours on a little bit of water. Right. So

1028
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: this is forty forty forty percent alcoholic volume or eighty proof.

1029
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: Water brings down proof, right, that's what it does. It

1030
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: can open up your your bourbon or your whiskey. Some

1031
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: flavors more pronounced, some more muted. I'll go first, I'll

1032
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: go first. I'm on these. That's how you know it's fresh.

1033
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: I think you need to use that more often to

1034
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: prove to folks that you're you at home, know, right

1035
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: in the eye.

1036
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: I just flashed myself with it. Thank god you.

1037
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: Had your safety goggles on.

1038
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: Oh my husband, such an idiot. Look what he did.

1039
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: Maybe if you had bought the nice rocks glasses. But no,

1040
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: I look like a heathen.

1041
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: Oh you call that a rocks glass, do you?

1042
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: I guess you sound like Gaffigan. Here I go.

1043
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: He's going in lace and gentlemen, what do you think?

1044
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 3: No?

1045
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: It washed?

1046
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: Oh going in once again? Neat drink. So so.

1047
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: You might be right, as this is a water drink,

1048
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: but it's it's that fruit, really is there? Oddly enough?

1049
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: A little heat picked up? As it's gonna sound weird

1050
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 1: because like I don't I I don't know the mash

1051
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: bill on this. I don't even know the price. I

1052
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: don't know if it's still offered. And I know the

1053
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: guys at all fifty five are gonna listen to this

1054
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: and immediately be like, oh my gosh, I should have

1055
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: called it this and this and this. It's it's it's

1056
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: not where my profile is in the slightest But like

1057
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: depending on the price. I'd be very interested in the

1058
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: price could tell me. I don't I don't know if

1059
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: it stays in my liquor cabinet, but I think it

1060
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: is in somebody's liquor cabinet because there is this fruit thing,

1061
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: and there is this it's a non cinnamon heat that's

1062
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: now happening that wasn't happening before dead center chest. You're

1063
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: you added a little bit of water. You go in

1064
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Speaker 1: there right there, fingers melloy, and you give that a

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01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: try with a little bit of water. The old fifty five.

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Speaker 2: For me, it brought out a little bit more that orchard.

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01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: There's a little oak at the end, you know where

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01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: it took away from. Noah, I said, there's It felt

1069
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: like there's a little bit of honey, little vanilla that

1070
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: kind of got muted. It brought up more of an

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01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: orchard for me, and a little bit more I'm thinking oak.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I will say. If you found this at

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01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: your local liquor store and it was available, and it

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01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: was under forty dollars a bottle, I would grab it.

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01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: If you find it at your local lounge, they have it,

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01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: it's worth a poor You start talking about you know

1077
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: price point, you know, fifty sixty seventy dollars a bottle.

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01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 2: I don't think so, but I think it's it's well

1079
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: worth a try, especially if you find it at your

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01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: favorite lounge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say it a little differently. And again,

1082
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: these are guys I really like, and I like a

1083
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: bunch of what they do. If you found it under

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01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars a bottle, not forty, you found it

1085
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 1: under twenty five dollars a bottle, I'd be like, yeah, sure,

1086
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm accounting for inflation, Tony. Yeah, I did too, you know.

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01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: And I could just be being a harsh in that regard.

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01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't require that kind of of harshness to it.

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01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: It did play nice that I thought it would, it

1090
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: really did. I think that the nose is a bit

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01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: confusing with that that level of ethanol that was in there.

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Speaker 1: And and I'm just I'm I'm a fan of them.

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01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for those guys, So

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01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to be, you know, too much, but

1095
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: like they've got some really good bottled and bond product

1096
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: and other things. Single product that's very much worthwhile. And

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01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: I would absolutely be somebody who recommends the old fifty

1098
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: five brand for sure, Old fifty five Distillery dot com.

1099
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: But it's time fingers, Molly, my gosh, we wasted a

1100
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: lot of time. We really should learn how to focus.

1101
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: We should have rehearsals. Time for News of the.

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01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: Week, Tony Foo Fighters announced that they are going to

1103
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: have a limited stadium tour in twenty twenty six. They're

1104
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: going to have dates in Canada and the United States.

1105
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: Oh and it appears Mexico City as well. You can

1106
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: see them in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, but they're only doing

1107
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: about what twelve fifteen shows. But it's the first tour

1108
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: that they've done since their drummer passed away.

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01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that people will still go, and I

1110
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: think they'll still very much be able to hit the sound.

1111
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: I think that life of that Taylor Hawkins, the late drummer,

1112
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: is the kind of thing that still moves people, and

1113
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: it moves them hard. If you don't know the story,

1114
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: he was the drummer for Alanis more Set and then

1115
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: got the chance to be in the Food Fighters and

1116
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: I took it. And you know, you listen to Dave

1117
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: Grohl discuss it, He's like that was like the glue

1118
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: piece like that was the Okay, I had somebody who

1119
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: understood the drive like I do, and then everything else

1120
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Speaker 1: kind of fell into place. I think it's still gonna

1121
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: be great shows. I think people are gonna enjoy the

1122
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: daylights out of it.

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Speaker 2: You've seen Food Fighters in counts, Yes, And I'm gonna

1124
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: see him again next year. I already I already have

1125
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: my tickets with time. You seen him, and I'm seeing

1126
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: him at Ford Field and Detroit.

1127
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: Look at you, look at you.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be I haven't seen a stadium show we're

1129
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: talking football stadium since Pink Floyd in nineteen ninety four,

1130
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: so I'll be interested to see what it's like because

1131
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: I've seen Food Fighters outdoors and that was a great show.

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01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: That's right. They played a local ampitheater here. Yeah, I

1133
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: should have gone fingers maloy. Were we or were we not?

1134
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: Just moments ago on eat, drink smoke talking about the

1135
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: changes at CBS.

1136
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: Uh, Yes we were, I think bringing back everybody loves

1137
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: Raymond and were we or were we not?

1138
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: Or when I say we, I mean me saying, oh,

1139
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: people are losing their jobs. Okay. I can't get worked

1140
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: up about it, and I can't necessarily feel bad about it.

1141
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: People lose their jobs sometimes that it's terrible. But if

1142
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: this idea that somehow, because you work in a certain

1143
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: industry you are immune or it's more damaging and more awful,

1144
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: I find to be nonsensical.

1145
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: I believe you said learn to code.

1146
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: No, that's what they would say to me. Oh if

1147
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: I lost my job, and right now, I would tell

1148
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: anybody learn AI because that's what's doing all the coding.

1149
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: It's eat, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That right there

1150
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. Now you don't

1151
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: know Fingers the way I know Fingers. When Fingers MOLOI

1152
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: wants to speak to you, and let's see if I

1153
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: will shock him with this because he doesn't know the story.

1154
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: When Fingers wants to speak to you and Fingers want

1155
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: it to be you know, a private conversation will go

1156
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: no seriously. Oprah Gail True, Oprah Gail and Oprah is

1157
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey and Gail is Gail King from CBS. Gail

1158
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: King will be leaving CBS News broke literally as we're

1159
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: recording it. Broke. Barry Weis has taken over CBS large

1160
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: scale changes are taking place. Barry Weiss was with The

1161
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: New York Times, left the New York Times because the

1162
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: New York Times wasn't interested in reporting in her view,

1163
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: started something called the Free Press, became wildly popular, sold

1164
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: to CBS, which is a group called sky Dance Now

1165
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: that owns it one hundred and fifty million dollars, and

1166
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: she took over as the executive editor of CBS News.

1167
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: People are losing their minds, and you would think, well,

1168
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: they're losing their minds because Barry Weiss is politically conservative

1169
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: and CBS is politically liberal. No, no, no, Barry Weiss

1170
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: is politically liberal. But she believes in actual news and

1171
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: that's what has everybody in an uproar. Gail King expected

1172
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: to depart. She's been hosting CBS Morning since twenty twelve,

1173
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: will leave the show next year when her contract ends

1174
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: in May. So was she told there will be no

1175
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: contract extension or did she say I'm going out on

1176
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: my own terms before I'm told there's no contract extension. Oh,

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01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: you know the answer to that question, I don't. I'm

1178
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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty.

1179
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Speaker 2: Oh no, They're showing her the door. And this is

1180
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: what I was going to ask you. This to me

1181
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: feels like the grip that Oprah has on media has

1182
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: has slowly slipped and has lessened to the point where

1183
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't think this could have happened five six years

1184
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: ago or ten excuse me, ten years ago. Maybe not,

1185
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: because they would have been too scared to take on Oprah.

1186
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: But now they don't have a problem taking on Oprah.

1187
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: And I think the only thing that they're doing with

1188
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: this is showing Oprah the respect of letting a Gail

1189
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: say that, Oh, you know what, I think I'm gonna

1190
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: be leaving on my own terms.

1191
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: Here's the kicker about this story. She's seventy.

1192
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 2: Stop it.

1193
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, God bless you, Gail King, seventy That's amazing.

1194
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: Never would have guessed that in a million years, Never

1195
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: would have guessed that.

1196
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: So what's gonna happen over there?

1197
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: You know?

1198
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: You see these people being laid off, but they're still

1199
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: gonna have these shows. We talked about the CBS Weekend

1200
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: Morning Show. They've got what on Sunday, They've got Sunday

1201
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 2: Morning with a what is it? Charles Carralt, Wow, what show?

1202
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: CBS Sunday Morning, CBS Sunday Morning with Johnny Knoxhill.

1203
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 2: Ah, that relieves is I don't think Charles is with

1204
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: us anymore. But having said that, uh, they're still gonna

1205
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: have these shows, right, or is it gonna shrink to

1206
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: the point where these networks aren't going to have these

1207
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: big Sunday morning shows anymore? And it's maybe I'll have

1208
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: the news shows like Meet the Press and stuff like that,

1209
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: but the kind of news magazine shows that you would

1210
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: see on a Sunday morning, Are those gonna go by

1211
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 2: the wayside? And we'll see repeats of everybody else?

1212
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: But I mean usually this is the conversation of his

1213
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: Late Night gonna go by the wayside? And I argue, yes,

1214
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: it will. There's a ROI conversation involved. And unless you're

1215
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna have Late Night that is actually about entertainment and

1216
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: takes on all sides properly, in skewing all sides properly

1217
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: and making the joke as opposed to engaging in the

1218
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: ideological trafficking. Yes, it's gonna go. It's too costly. Are there?

1219
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 3: So?

1220
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: Gail King was the Monday through Friday show? But are

1221
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: those shows gonna go? And I put forth to you, no,

1222
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of ego and prestige

1223
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: wrapped up in them. It's like the sixty take sixty minutes.

1224
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: Would sixty minutes go away? I don't think so. I

1225
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: think there's still a great amount of Americans who rely

1226
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: on sixty minutes, who see a value in it. And

1227
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: I think that CBS, right, this is the nation. This

1228
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: is the network that they called the Tiffany Network, like

1229
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: this was, this is the Kreme de la creme. This

1230
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: is started at all, if you will. I don't think

1231
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: they would see themselves getting rid of of that program.

1232
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: There's no need to. It still can generate news utilized

1233
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 1: by the news department shared in that way. So no,

1234
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: I don't think they get rid of Sunday shows either,

1235
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: because news can be broken there and that's very valuable

1236
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: for the product that drives are good. I one would

1237
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: assume a good amount of revenue.

1238
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: So they used to call CBS the Tiffany Network. Well

1239
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 2: now they're calling CBS News the Tiffany Network because they're

1240
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 2: looking around in the newsroom and saying, I think we're alone.

1241
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: Now what I did there? Wow? I thought it was

1242
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: going to be And they call ABC News that Debbie

1243
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: Gibson them you could have gotten either way with that

1244
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: joke and been all right with it. But this The

1245
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: weirdest thing about this is that change happens and we

1246
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: get shocked by it, like somehow these people will be

1247
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: there forever. What is forever? What makes anybody think that

1248
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: that's going to be the case? And the way The

1249
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: question before us is do we get a better product?

1250
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: And the answer to that comes with, well, I saw

1251
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: this news report and I believe it to be true,

1252
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: as opposed to I saw this news report and I

1253
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: don't believe anything.

1254
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: And they tell me I don't think we're ever going

1255
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: to get a better product ever?

1256
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: Again, do you really? I do?

1257
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: Because I don't think the American people want a better product.

1258
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: They say they want a better produc.

1259
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: Everybody ad ea, drink Smoke Nation want it's a better product.

1260
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: But here's the drink Smoke Nation a bunch of horrifying liars.

1261
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't pretend that I can read each drink Smoke

1262
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: Nation's minds like you can. I'm not pretending, But don't

1263
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: you feel like when it comes to corporate media corporate news,

1264
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: I said, for years I thought that the American people

1265
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: wanted a network that played it straight down the middle.

1266
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 2: Here's an anchor. You don't know what the anchor's politics are.

1267
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: They will report the news, and then they'll have a

1268
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: segment where they'll have a conservative on and a liberal on,

1269
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: and they'll talk about the story and then let the

1270
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 2: audience decide. I feel like now we're too far gone,

1271
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 2: and I feel like now we're to the point where

1272
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 2: Americans want to just be in whatever political bubble that

1273
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: they are in, and they only want to be told

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Speaker 2: that their side is winning and the other side is losing.

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Speaker 1: I it's it outrageously hard thing to disagree with what

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Speaker 1: we see every day. It's a hard thing to disagree with.

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Speaker 1: I would I look at this CBS move and Barry

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Speaker 1: Weiss running things, and I wonder, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: this Could this be seen as the last gasp? If

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Speaker 1: it can't be done when you've got the full support

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Speaker 1: of the new owner of sky Dance. I forget his

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Speaker 1: first name, Ellison, the son of Larry Elison, the owner

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Speaker 1: of Oracle. If you've got all this and Barry Weiss

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Speaker 1: doesn't report to the president of CBS News, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: she reports to the boss, to the owner of the company.

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Speaker 1: If you can't make it happen with that, well, then okay,

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Speaker 1: you're probably right. You can't make it happen at all.

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Speaker 1: But the argument that America doesn't want it, I would

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Speaker 1: say that it's because America doesn't know that it's even possible,

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Speaker 1: because it hasn't happened. And what is more evil is

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Speaker 1: that there have been so many people in news who

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Speaker 1: are telling us, oh no, no, we're the real news

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Speaker 1: people who are the real journalists, and they flat out lied,

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Speaker 1: and they flat out manipulated and manipulated, they did these things.

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Speaker 1: So maybe just seeing it again will remind people of

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Speaker 1: what is possible. And nothing was ever perfect. Cronkite wasn't perfect,

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Speaker 1: but I would like to think that this opportunity can

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Speaker 1: create opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Cronkite will look perfect today compared to.

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