WEBVTT - Euphoria - “This Little Piggy” (S3, E5)

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<v Speaker 1>The Frames per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on in your boy?

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<v Speaker 3>Nick?

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<v Speaker 4>I am here with Modest Media. How you doing, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good Man, How I'm good?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here with miss Naturally.

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<v Speaker 4>Nay glad you were able to join us.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Spike Lou of the on Deck TV show

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<v Speaker 2>and another week in the books. How you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Man? What up?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good?

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<v Speaker 2>Kenneth Ban, how you doing, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello?

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<v Speaker 2>And Mike c town Yo.

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<v Speaker 4>You now tune into the Frames per Second Podcast And

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<v Speaker 4>in this episode, we are continuing on with our weekly

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<v Speaker 4>recaps of the hit HBO original series Starrings in Deya

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<v Speaker 4>titled Euphoria. This recap is dedicated episode five, called This

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<v Speaker 4>Little Piggy. It's a lot to get into with this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, so I'm gonna just got Barry to

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<v Speaker 4>lead overall thoughts. I'll start with you, Lou. It was okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it was just about like the last

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<v Speaker 4>episode I got. I said I wouldn't gonna like the

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<v Speaker 4>tropes with them and Rue snitching, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 4>they just played all of them and that's just the

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<v Speaker 4>main story.

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<v Speaker 5>So we came as far to see them. Suspect Ruis snitching.

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<v Speaker 5>It was alright, just okay to me, it was just

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<v Speaker 5>okay to YouTube.

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<v Speaker 6>Nay, Yeah, there were there are some things I liked

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<v Speaker 6>about it. There were some things I really didn't. It

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<v Speaker 6>was I feel like the show is slowly declining for me,

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<v Speaker 6>mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you Rock?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think I'm with them, man, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 7>what they're doing with.

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<v Speaker 3>What they're doing today. I tried, I tried. I tried

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<v Speaker 3>to to hold out, but.

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<v Speaker 7>I think this is how they they're going with them

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<v Speaker 7>That is crazy to me, but okay, But overall the

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<v Speaker 7>show I'm kind of with. I can't remember it was Nails,

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<v Speaker 7>Spike they said, it's like I think it was. Nay

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<v Speaker 7>said it was like, I think it's just on a

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<v Speaker 7>slight decline. It just doesn't seem to be getting better,

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<v Speaker 7>like I feel like You four US is always just

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<v Speaker 7>like you seem like it was getting better with every episode,

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<v Speaker 7>and I don't know, I don't feel like that right now.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like I'm happening to force myself to kind

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<v Speaker 7>of like it, and I feel like after we talk

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<v Speaker 7>I like it a little bit more after we talk

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<v Speaker 7>about it, But like I used to just like it

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<v Speaker 7>just going in.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm is that the same time? Well, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>season two.

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<v Speaker 8>I was mostly luke warm on it until it got

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<v Speaker 8>real sort of messy towards the end, and then with

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<v Speaker 8>the whole theater thing with LETSI was doing, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 8>et cetera. You know, I'm having similar feelings right now,

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<v Speaker 8>except I don't know if they're gonna close it out

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<v Speaker 8>to where they can recover. And my concern from last

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<v Speaker 8>week is raised even more this week. How in the

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<v Speaker 8>hell they're gonna end this ship? Yeah, it's weird, right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it doesn't seem like they're gonna end it right here.

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<v Speaker 7>It seems like they gotta do another season or something.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think they're signing on to dude another

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<v Speaker 4>season in their content contractlast week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's four seasons. They may end it

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<v Speaker 2>next season.

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<v Speaker 8>But if that's the case, well they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 8>come right back then because they can't wait another.

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<v Speaker 2>And they are busy as hell.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, either way go, if that's the case, then they

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<v Speaker 8>do come back for another season, it may make it

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<v Speaker 8>make more sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think like we got some good

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<v Speaker 1>moments here, so overall, I think it was.

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<v Speaker 8>It was fine. I think the thing well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll talk about Nate later on, but yeah, yeah, overall

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<v Speaker 8>it was it was fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just concerned. I liked this episode. I like this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really have many high expectations on this series though,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think I kind of knew that going in.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just trying to say, like talk myself into

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<v Speaker 4>continue watching it, like, Okay, it's gonna get better.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna get better. So to me, it hasn't really dipped.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that we're just.

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<v Speaker 4>Going through the motions of it, and I'm hoping, like

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<v Speaker 4>I think we got maybe with three episodes left, and

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<v Speaker 4>with everything that, like you said, all the tropes and

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<v Speaker 4>all that stuff, it's going to lead to a big thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I don't mind the bread crumbs.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't mind the tropes because that usually means that's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be like a huge climax, whether in the

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<v Speaker 4>ninth or the second or last episode or the season finale.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'll tell you the reason that that don't sit

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<v Speaker 5>well with me for this show is we know nothing's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna happen to Rule, So you couldn't as many dangerous.

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<v Speaker 5>Couldn't nobody dies really on this show, not now, not

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<v Speaker 5>at this point. And she's a star, so like you

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<v Speaker 5>can play all of these games with her that I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure we'll get into later when she's in these scenarios

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<v Speaker 5>where it's like, damn, is she gonna make it out? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>she gonna make it every time. That's why I don't

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<v Speaker 5>like it, Like they should have won another way it

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<v Speaker 5>used to do. This used to be interesting when she

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<v Speaker 5>was dealing with drugs and she was dealing with so

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<v Speaker 5>many other things, like her relationship. But now if we're

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<v Speaker 5>just dealing with her trying not to get caught by

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<v Speaker 5>the police or killed, we know that's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>And y'all talking about another season like it's just there's

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<v Speaker 5>no payoff.

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<v Speaker 2>But isn't that every main character of every show, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they ain't really like.

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<v Speaker 5>When we're just saying this show used to do that better. Though,

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<v Speaker 5>this show used to do that a lot better. There

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<v Speaker 5>were real stakes because you got to think if something

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<v Speaker 5>bad happened to Rule, it wasn't taken her off the board.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like her going to rehab. So there were

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<v Speaker 5>stakes when she was like struggling with drugs or like

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<v Speaker 5>she has an argument with her mom and her sister.

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<v Speaker 5>There's stakes because you can remove her from the scene

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<v Speaker 5>and she can go to rehab and come back. The

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<v Speaker 5>stakes here are dead or jail, and we know that's

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<v Speaker 5>not going to happen to her. That's why I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want them to go this way with the troup. What

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<v Speaker 5>are your thoughts on this episode, Mike. I did not

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<v Speaker 5>think this episode was very good. This was probably the

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<v Speaker 5>worst episode of the season so far. I do slightly

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<v Speaker 5>disagree with Spike. I don't see why she couldn't go

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<v Speaker 5>to jail. There's no reason that she couldn't go to

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<v Speaker 5>jail for something and then just get out. But I

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<v Speaker 5>do agree with Spike with the trope of she's not

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<v Speaker 5>gonna die and that kind of thing just gets boring

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<v Speaker 5>when you put characters in positions like this where we

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<v Speaker 5>know that nothing is really going to happen to them,

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<v Speaker 5>but get into the Nate stuff, of course, but this

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<v Speaker 5>was This was just not a well written episode. And

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't even the Nate ship that bothered me. This

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<v Speaker 5>ship was bad from the second it started. I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>Sidney Sweetey, you are a sad and pathetic character, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have quit this fucking show.

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<v Speaker 4>When they said, look, we're gonna make your titties bust

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<v Speaker 4>a window, you should have been like, all right, bro,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm out.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kay, bullshit anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>We start off this episode with Cassie continuing on with

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<v Speaker 4>her OnlyFans content create a lifestyle now that she has

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<v Speaker 4>a bigger platform after being tagged by that famous influencer Brandon.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're also seeing the day in the life of

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<v Speaker 4>being an influencer and how much you gotta do to

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<v Speaker 4>create content in general, this kind of content, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's starting to starting to take a toll. Nay,

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<v Speaker 4>what was your thoughts on Cassie this episode, especially how

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<v Speaker 4>we started off this episode.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the biggest problem my hand with this episode

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<v Speaker 6>was the way it started off. I don't understand Sidney

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<v Speaker 6>Sweeney as an actress. I don't understand her as a person,

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<v Speaker 6>and I don't understand why she's okay with this character.

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<v Speaker 9>It seems like.

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<v Speaker 6>It seems like Sidney's trying to get away from this

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<v Speaker 6>hot girl characterization that she has, but has allowed Sam

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<v Speaker 6>Lovinson to just throw her all the way into it

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<v Speaker 6>to the point where she's a fifty foot, big, titty, blond.

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<v Speaker 9>Haired white girl.

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<v Speaker 5>I just it was so.

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<v Speaker 9>It just seems so counterinto it.

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<v Speaker 6>It just seems so over the top and unnecessary, Like

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<v Speaker 6>what is the You could have explained whatever it was

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<v Speaker 6>you were trying to explain about Cassie's head getting big

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<v Speaker 6>and her trying to take over Hollywood and whatever the

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<v Speaker 6>hell it had to be a different way to pick

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<v Speaker 6>foot Titty's busting through a window. I just don't understand.

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<v Speaker 6>It just came off so tasteless. It didn't come off

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<v Speaker 6>creative in the least bit. And it's almost it almost

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<v Speaker 6>seemed like a gotcha, like, oh, you want to get

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<v Speaker 6>away from this trope, and now I'm was gonna make

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<v Speaker 6>it bigger for you. It just it was so unnecessary

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<v Speaker 6>and it turned me off from the whole episode out

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<v Speaker 6>the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Row, are you saying your hair in agreement?

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<v Speaker 3>It did? It did feel a little over the top.

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<v Speaker 7>Like watching it, I do get what they were trying

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<v Speaker 7>to do, and it obviously Nay gets it too, but

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<v Speaker 7>she just didn't like it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>With like her being this you know, because I think

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<v Speaker 3>she had just reached like fifty thousand followers or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 7>So they were trying to be clever with the fifty

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<v Speaker 7>foot woman thing or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, it was okay. She's she's committed to

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<v Speaker 3>the role.

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<v Speaker 7>That's That's what I do appreciate about any Sweeney in

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<v Speaker 7>this role is that she's super committed to it. I

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<v Speaker 7>could care less about her, and I said that from

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<v Speaker 7>the first episode, like I can care less about what

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<v Speaker 7>she does and her personal life, but as far as

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<v Speaker 7>when it comes to the show, she's definitely committed to

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<v Speaker 7>it and I and I kind of give her credit

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<v Speaker 7>for it, honestly, So I'm kind of on the opposite

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<v Speaker 7>in the name when it comes to that, you.

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<v Speaker 9>Give her credits.

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<v Speaker 7>What she's doing in this role. She's she's she's committed

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<v Speaker 7>to the role. And I don't know why she's so

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<v Speaker 7>committed to the role, but she is committed to the role.

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<v Speaker 7>And I and I do and I do like in

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<v Speaker 7>an odd way respected or whatever, because she's really selling it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's really she's really selling this headed.

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<v Speaker 9>M I said, I feel the polar opposite. I disrespect

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<v Speaker 9>him because it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Like it feels, I don't know why, it feels more

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<v Speaker 6>like the gene com Marshall, it's like you're just doing

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<v Speaker 6>whatever for the check, That's what It's just. It's just

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<v Speaker 6>like you don't have any like where's your stance?

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<v Speaker 9>And if you all do? Yeah, I disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm, uh, Lou, was it a turn off for you?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, wee this before from her, so I think

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<v Speaker 5>I'm more on the side. I understand what Rod saying

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<v Speaker 5>is about her committment to the performance. It is impressive.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say, we don't know why you it's impressive

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<v Speaker 5>sticking to this. I will say that, but I totally

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<v Speaker 5>get what they're saying. Like when I first seen it,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, Okay, bro, why they doing this? Like

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<v Speaker 5>like this is it's like a trolling us. It was

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<v Speaker 5>like they was like doing something Living Color mad TV

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<v Speaker 5>type shit, Like bro, like, come on, this show is

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<v Speaker 5>better than that, or at least it used to be.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like. I didn't like nothing about her character

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<v Speaker 5>this episode. I didn't like, I'm sure we'll get into

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<v Speaker 5>the conversation with Maddie, but this whole opening seemed like

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't need this, Like we knew what she did,

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<v Speaker 5>and for.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, this reminded me of that that Dave Seppelle skin

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<v Speaker 4>when he was fighting Gozilla and it also it also

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<v Speaker 4>reminded me of the beginning of Barbie where they try

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<v Speaker 4>to do the two thousand and one Odysse things.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like they was.

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<v Speaker 4>It seemed like, let's mix smash all this shit together,

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<v Speaker 4>and the people are going to react to it because

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<v Speaker 4>it's a white woman with big titties. So first of all,

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<v Speaker 4>we got everybody's eyes. But how we executed it's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be interesting. Was it interesting for you?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they it was. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a turnoff. I think they were trying to create a moment.

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<v Speaker 8>So everybody can get on Twitter and social media and

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<v Speaker 8>talk about what happened in Euphoria. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>sure a lot of teenagers. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>teenagers and stuff were watching it, college kids or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>But Lou, I don't think the show is better than this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what they do. This is what they've always

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<v Speaker 1>done with her, this is what they've always done with Cassie.

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<v Speaker 1>This is her role. To Rod's point, but I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>agreement with Nay And that's why I was so.

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<v Speaker 8>Confused and conflicting to watch it, because this is the

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<v Speaker 8>character that she signed up to do, and this is

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<v Speaker 8>the character that got her all of these opportunities. However,

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<v Speaker 8>in between the seasons, I think even she has come

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<v Speaker 8>out and said that she wants to get away from

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<v Speaker 8>being looked at as this type of actor, and she

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<v Speaker 8>wanted to be taken more serious. And Sam Levison just

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<v Speaker 8>came in and just completely just wiped all of that away.

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<v Speaker 8>And it has to be tough because what is Cassie

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<v Speaker 8>five years later? And maybe she could have had that

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<v Speaker 8>conversation with Sam and instead of making Nate completely different,

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<v Speaker 8>making maybe make Cassie completely different and changed her into

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<v Speaker 8>somebody else five years later, so she can start to

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<v Speaker 8>mature out of being this sort of set symbol for

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<v Speaker 8>on this show, this dumb blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really really weird.

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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, it's yeah, that's yeah, I don't know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm I'm, I'm split down the middle. It's it's tough,

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<v Speaker 8>but it is definitely going backwards for her. You're fifty

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<v Speaker 8>foot walking around with titties and all this stuff. You're

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<v Speaker 8>doing all kind of crazy sexual things, you're in the

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<v Speaker 8>in this sort of thing, and yeah, it's seems very demeaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because she started off with the foot fetish thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and we saw a lot of that this episode. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what she started off with.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but I remember she she did make some statements,

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<v Speaker 7>but it didn't seem like her statements were lining up

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<v Speaker 7>with the stuff that she was doing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like she just said it but didn't really follow that.

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<v Speaker 1>And movie or whatever we watched that.

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<v Speaker 5>Even that, she still was kind of you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying, You still can kind of see her

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<v Speaker 3>and all that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Mike, of course, I want to get your

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<v Speaker 4>overall thoughts on how we started this episode, but specifically

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<v Speaker 4>as we listen more to New Rules Narration, like we

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<v Speaker 4>find out that Maddie is going into overtime with like

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<v Speaker 4>trying to put her on the biggest platform, create more

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<v Speaker 4>content for others to pay for and care about.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you like the way that she was also showcasing

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<v Speaker 2>how she was using.

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<v Speaker 4>Cassie when it comes to like media outlets, podcast media

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<v Speaker 4>and the stuff she was saying, like it was just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like she was creating her Internet personality like

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<v Speaker 4>in real time and seeing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I jump.

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<v Speaker 4>Into that, Nick, can I can I comment real quick

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<v Speaker 4>about the Sydney sweeth part.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to point out I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't agree with Spike very often, but I completely

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<v Speaker 4>agree with Spike when Spike said the show is better

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<v Speaker 4>than this. The show is better than this, Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it's always been sexual, it's not been ridiculously stupid and goofy.

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<v Speaker 4>And this came off like remember that show, The Man

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<v Speaker 4>Show from back in the day with it came off

0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:21.200
<v Speaker 4>like that kind of humor. Yep, Like this wasn't clever,

0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.560
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't interesting, it was just stupid. I'm a big,

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<v Speaker 4>humongous woman with big titties and I'm busting through a

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<v Speaker 4>window while some dudes jerking off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like, this is stupid. This is really, really

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<v Speaker 2>really stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>It came off very very lowbrow, and the show is

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<v Speaker 4>not typically lowbrow, So I agree with Spike, the show is.

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<v Speaker 2>Typically better than this.

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<v Speaker 4>I also, I guess I understand rod and Ken's point

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<v Speaker 4>of her committing to it, but I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>not committing to it looks like, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>like just not doing it, because like she could say

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<v Speaker 4>no and she hasn't. I guess, so I guess, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>she's completely fine with this. I'm okay with the sexual

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<v Speaker 4>nature of the show. I always have been, and I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like it's weird that people are complaining about the

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<v Speaker 4>sexual nature now three three seasons in. I just thought

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<v Speaker 4>the way this episode opened up was just fucking corny

0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:16.640
<v Speaker 4>and stupid and laying and low brow.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as cass Maddie, Yeah, I enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that it's cool that that I'm actually thinking

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<v Speaker 4>it's cool that I am probably wrong. I thought Cassie

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<v Speaker 4>and Maddie, I thought the whole thing was fake. I

0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.240
<v Speaker 4>thought Maddie was not interested in the friendship. But it

0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.680
<v Speaker 4>looks like Maddie is actually interested in being cool with

0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.400
<v Speaker 4>her again, So I was wrong about that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think this their dynamic is actually interesting. I just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of wish the writing was better to where it

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<v Speaker 4>actually made more sense. Speaking of the Cassie Maddie relationship,

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<v Speaker 4>I love that Mike touched on the fact of like,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, down the line, and I think we could

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<v Speaker 4>just talk about the whole Cassie Nate Maddie stuff now

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<v Speaker 4>because we got other stuff we will get to. But

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<v Speaker 4>down the line that we see that Maddie has accepted

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<v Speaker 4>certain things about her friendship dynamics with even just different people.

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:18.879
<v Speaker 4>I think she was actually able to talk about a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people in this episode, Nate, did you get

0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.639
<v Speaker 4>that as well as far as like how she puts

0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.040
<v Speaker 4>people in Like once she figures you out as a friend,

0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:27.479
<v Speaker 4>she knows how to use you and she knows how

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<v Speaker 4>to interact with you. Because I see that with Cassie

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes with the whole contract situation with Brandon,

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<v Speaker 4>and like that's influence her house and her being an

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<v Speaker 4>official manager and stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>I think, And I think the conversation that she was

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<v Speaker 9>having with Rude at the diner, it was kind of

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<v Speaker 9>poignant to the turn that she's made. I just think

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<v Speaker 9>she accepts people for who they are right she.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that there is a level of a bit

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<v Speaker 6>of care that she still had for Maddie because as

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.760
<v Speaker 6>they were best friends in high school, she's betrayed by her.

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<v Speaker 9>She understands that that Cassie.

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<v Speaker 6>Is going to do whatever she can to get whatever

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<v Speaker 6>attention she wants because that's who she's always been and

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<v Speaker 6>she's going to utilize that to her advantage.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that she's just learned to accept and take

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<v Speaker 9>almost like take the.

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<v Speaker 6>Emotion out of it, which Matt Maddie from high school,

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<v Speaker 6>like she will pop off, right, she was emotional. I

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<v Speaker 6>think that she's learned how to take the emotion out

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<v Speaker 6>of it except people for who they are and just

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:38.080
<v Speaker 6>use that to her advantage and whatever capacity that happens

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<v Speaker 6>to be. Like she says she's reached a place of harmony,

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<v Speaker 6>so yeah, I think she can acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I care about the girl. I don't want nothing

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<v Speaker 9>bad to happen to her. I don't think she really

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<v Speaker 9>cares too much about the marriage because of the history there.

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<v Speaker 9>But I don't want nothing like too too bad to

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<v Speaker 9>happen to you.

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<v Speaker 6>But I also know you're stupid enough to let stuff

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<v Speaker 6>happen to you, so I have to protect myself in

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<v Speaker 6>the intern right.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why I don't think she's like truly a friend

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<v Speaker 7>for real. I know, Mike, I don't know if I

0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.159
<v Speaker 7>agree with Mike did. I don't know if that's what

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 7>you're saying their friends like that, But no, I still think, okay, cool,

0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 7>So I still think there's still some something there. She's

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<v Speaker 7>not a friend because even more from the way she's

0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.760
<v Speaker 7>had her sign that contract, that didn't seem like a

0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.760
<v Speaker 7>friendly exchange to me, Like that seemed like you were

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.159
<v Speaker 7>up to something she didn't even read it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Come back around somehow later, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'm kind of like with Nay that she she

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<v Speaker 7>just takes the emotion out of it and knows how

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<v Speaker 7>to just deal with her, which to me doesn't sound

0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:36.640
<v Speaker 7>like a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, go ahead, Mike, I'm sorry, No, you're good.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was just gonna say, Rod, No, I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 4>not saying that they're like best friend buddy buddy. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just my My whole thing for the whole season so

0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 4>far has been that I thought, I thought Cassie are sorry.

0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:59.159
<v Speaker 4>I thought Maddie was only doing this for revenge. I

0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:02.240
<v Speaker 4>thought the whole time she was setting the whole thing

0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.440
<v Speaker 4>in motion so she could fuck her over real quick.

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<v Speaker 4>But this episode showed me that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember which one of y'all just said this,

0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.240
<v Speaker 4>but they're not friends, but she doesn't want anything bad

0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 4>to happen to her necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not like homies.

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<v Speaker 4>She doesn't love her or anything like that, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think she has a little bit of care for her.

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.080
<v Speaker 4>I thought before that she has zero care, that this

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<v Speaker 4>was all just a long time, So that's what I meant.

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:29.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, That's what I figured.

0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's so much that no, they're not friends,

0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.240
<v Speaker 6>but I think that's because you can't be Cassie's friend

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 6>because Cassie's too self centered. And I think she understands that,

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<v Speaker 6>like she's as much of a friend as you can't

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.320
<v Speaker 6>be to Cassie because Cassie's already shown her the level

0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 6>of betrayal. She'll go to get the attention she desired. So,

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 6>like I said, I know where I got to place you,

0:21:57.280 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 6>and I can make a couple million off of you

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 6>in the interim signed his contract because can't nobody really

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:03.199
<v Speaker 6>be your friend for.

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<v Speaker 4>Him anyway, Louie, you always have a thought process when

0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:14.480
<v Speaker 4>it comes to people with contracts and those situations. Were

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 4>you surprised that it took Maddie this long to even

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 4>present a contract to Cassie, especially when we see the

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 4>other side of it.

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Cassie's trying to.

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 4>Get lord away by Brandon, Who's like, look, I already

0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 4>got anything moving.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got to get on the train.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that Maddie was looking at this relationship is

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<v Speaker 5>completely transactional. I don't think that she was trying to

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<v Speaker 5>be her friend at all. I think that she knows

0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.040
<v Speaker 5>that she can make money off of her, and she

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 5>didn't feel like she was smart enough that if another

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.200
<v Speaker 5>contract came that she would consider it, because I do

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:46.120
<v Speaker 5>think that she looks at Maddie as a I think

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 5>Cassie thinks Maddie as her friend. I don't think Maddie

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 5>is in the least bit interested in trying to be

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 5>friends with Cassie and the only reason that she's talking

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.239
<v Speaker 5>to her is because she's making the money from her.

0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 5>So with a contract now, I don't think that she

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<v Speaker 5>even Maddie would have even thought about it, which is

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 5>why she pulled the trick that she did when Cassie

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.360
<v Speaker 5>came to her about the contract and made the fake

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Speaker 5>phone call. I think that it showed throughout this episode

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 5>that Maddie is really She ain't really friends with none

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:13.919
<v Speaker 5>of them. She's a shark. She's trying to come up

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:15.919
<v Speaker 5>like and whatever she got to do to come up,

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:19.359
<v Speaker 5>she's going to do that. And if it manipulate your

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.719
<v Speaker 5>ex best friend in the doing porn, then yeah, I'm

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 5>gonna put you out there on the track.

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 2>So you got to say to that name, No, I was.

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<v Speaker 6>Gonna ask, do you think Maddie and Rue are really friends.

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<v Speaker 6>But Maddie even said that, she said, I'm as close

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 6>as you can be the room.

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 9>So it's like she's surrounded by these people that she

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 9>knows you can only really care about them to a.

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<v Speaker 6>Certain extent, and so she's capitalizing off of the situations

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:49.719
<v Speaker 6>that these people bring to her.

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<v Speaker 9>She ain't friends her somebody, So I agree with you,

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:53.119
<v Speaker 9>she's not.

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<v Speaker 5>Really friends with anybody't friends.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't think that's because she can't be a friend.

0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 6>I think that's because of the circle that she's in.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with you. I don't put it on Maddie.

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.679
<v Speaker 5>I just think that she actually I credit her because

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 5>she's smartened up and she's using what's around her like

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 5>she's the only that's one of the only stories. Well,

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 5>that's one of the few story lines that I've liked

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 5>for this episode. I think they did Maddie really well

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.400
<v Speaker 5>in all of her conversations and like what she did

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.360
<v Speaker 5>this episode. So I agree with you. I don't think

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 5>it's because of her. I don't think she's a bad person.

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 5>She deal with what she's been given to her.

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<v Speaker 2>And did Mattie, I mean, did Cassie sign two contracts.

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<v Speaker 8>She didn't give the other one to Brandy, I mean

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 8>to Brandon, but she did sign it. Yeah, but she

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 8>does never handed it over to him because I had

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 8>wondered the same thing, because I thought it was too late.

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 1>But I.

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 8>Do think they're friends. I think it's a complex friendship

0:24:54.880 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 8>because of their their history, and I think they're trying

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 8>to get to a spot to where they may rekindle

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 8>what once was, but I don't think it'll ever get there.

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 8>And you kind of hear it when they were having

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 8>a conversation just about the personal life, and when she

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 8>was talking about Nate and what Nate's going on, and

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 8>Nate is using her because he has the debt that

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 8>he got to get in.

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>So it sounded like she was trying to give her

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>advice on that situation that was going on.

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 8>And you know, of course Cassie didn't want to really,

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 8>she wanted to do business, but well, Maddie was doing business.

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 8>Cassie was having difficulty doing business because she viewed Maddie

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 8>as her friend and that's why she wasn't able to

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 8>do that. But like Brandon told us that, you know,

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 8>this is business, this isn't personal, and there's a they

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 8>weren't able to. Cassie wasn't able to separate that, and

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 8>Maddie did what she should have did the first go round.

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 8>But Cassie was the one that reached out to Maddie

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 8>about managing her and helping her propel her career, not

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 8>the other way around. So that's true. I think she

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 8>is taking advantage of an opportunity that came to her,

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 8>but she was also really good at it, and she

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 8>knows she has that ability and that skill set, so

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 8>she finally hasd somebody to do with it, and now

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 8>she's turning into what may be a profitable business.

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.639
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0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 10>want to you brought up something as far as I

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 10>think you may have said something about Maddie and Cassie

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 10>and how Maddie maybe looking out for him in some

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 10>way because or I heard it from someone else.

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 4>But I wanted to ask you because Maddie mentions how

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 4>like Cassie donated or sent Nate thirty five K and

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 4>she was like, why are you doing this this nigga?

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Is he ain't shit? She said, he's not a bread winner,

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>He's a bread loser.

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 6>And I know that.

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 4>Obviously Cassie clearly still has uh she's still married, and

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 4>she still has a tie to Nate, but obviously she's

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 4>moving in a different direction. Do you feel that Maddie

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.959
<v Speaker 4>is doing this also to egg on their divorce upcoming

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 4>divorce or is she legit given like good friend advice

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 4>and Cassie she kind of listened.

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it was a little bit of both. Honestly,

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:01.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm with Nay. I think I think

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 3>she don't really care about the marriage.

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 7>Honestly, I think she had her moment of her or

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 7>whatnot and if if anything was gonna happen, and what

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 7>it happened by then, I think I think this is

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 7>very solely just her looking out for her investment, you

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 7>know what I'm saying. I think that that will ultimately

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 7>affect her and what's going on with her, which would

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 7>then in turn affect her money as well. So she's

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 7>trying to put her in the best position to be

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 7>as successful as she possibly can be, because he'll be

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 7>just as as successful as she will. I think that's

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 7>all it is.

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Were you surprised that Nate is backing up Cassie's career now.

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>No a nigga about it.

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean the threast that he's getting, He's trying to

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 3>get it however he can. He's trying to.

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 7>Get it however he can't, even if it means pipping

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 7>out my wife, which is a crazy storyline for him.

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Like, man, this is really really crazy what they're doing

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 3>with Nate.

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 9>He can't sell that Graceland ass house.

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 8>He got.

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 6>Talked to send her your wife the only fans before

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 6>you sell that that glass house.

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 11>That you live in.

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 2>He got blood on it?

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Where clean the carpet?

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>He got blood on it again?

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Because Mike, what was your thoughts on this episode? Because

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 4>he didn't get a lot of screen time. Really, he

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 4>didn't need he didn't scream time. That was real, Cordy,

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 4>I hated Nate this whole episode. This was pissing. Huh

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, I was thinking the same thing, like did

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 4>he fuck Sam Levinson's girl or something?

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Because why is he doing this?

0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Was?

0:29:58.080 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>This was.

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 2>From the second Nate showed up.

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 4>I was just like, I'm irritated, Like I get what

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 4>Rod is saying that he's just trying to get money

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 4>or whatever, but I'm also one hundred percent with Nay,

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 4>you can't do anything else aside from pimping your own

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 4>wife out. I guess they're trying to portray the idea

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 4>that like, Okay, we know he doesn't really care about her,

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 4>but we also know that Nate is very possessive. What's

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 4>mine is mine, So him just being like, oh, yeah,

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, you should totally do some sexual stuff with Brandon,

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 4>no problem.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you should totally move in his house. That makes sense.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like, make get the fuck out of here.

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 4>But the fact that he got the money and then

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 4>we're doing this whole thing all over again with the

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 4>mobster guy pulling the toe off again, It's like, bro,

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 4>we already saw this and then you're cutting his finger off.

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 4>It's like, bro, we already saw this, like do something new.

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 4>It was just it was just whack bro, Like Nate

0:30:58.280 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 4>over there running.

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 2>And hiding in the bathroom.

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Not man.

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I was shocked because I thought he had like a

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>gun in there. He was trying to like or like

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 2>he would finally like buck up because he's a big dude.

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 2>He's like six something, like you should be able to

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>at least scrap.

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 3>But he was a star football player.

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>He was the star.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 3>He was the guy. Like, like, man, this this storyline

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 3>is crazy, like like for real.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 7>But I wonder if people are I haven't read any

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 7>re used anything I want to people are liking the

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 7>fact that he's kind of getting his getting his just

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 7>dude for being such a horrible person throughout the other season.

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 3>So but it just seems like a lot though, like

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 3>like it's like it's like enough is enough, Like geez okay,

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 3>we get it.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>We get it.

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Like like you know, if you hated him like that,

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 9>Feel like retribution doesn't It would be different if he

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 9>was still being Nate and got his just deserves. It's

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 9>like you completely changed his character so much, to the

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 9>point where the audience doesn't even like, like, I'm not

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 9>even happy that he's getting his ass beat Like it's

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 9>just so weird what they're doing.

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 4>With him, and I wonder, Oh sorry, man, I was

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 4>just saying, like, real quick, I'm wondering why he's not paying,

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 4>like he got the bread.

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Late, he was paying late or something like that.

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he missed the last pain, last over late, the

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>last paper.

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 5>She said, just said over.

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he has the bread. I don't think

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 4>he has any money. That's what it seems like. It

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 4>seems like he's broke.

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I I just wanted to point.

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Out real fast, Nick, But yeah, I agree with Nay again.

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Like when Nate got beat down by Fez, it was

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 4>like the entire euphoria audience was like, yes, right, But

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 4>now it's like they're trying to make him some kind

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 4>of sympathetic character. He's still a scumbag, but it's almost

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.239
<v Speaker 4>like they're trying to make us feel a little bit

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 4>bad for him.

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's weird.

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 4>It's like, I don't get any pleasure from watching a

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 4>cup get beat up, Like this isn't enjoyable, so I

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 4>don't really understand what they're doing with his character right now,

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 4>and then, Lou I want to talk to you real

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 4>quick because I'm trying to I think you understand what

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean with this. Like obviously, in the beginning of

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 4>this season, Nate was looked at as a bread winner

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 4>and Cassie was like, I asked for all the things,

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 4>I get the things I want. Now the roles have

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 4>reversed where Cassie's out doing the work and Nate's at

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 4>home just you know, trying to spend the money.

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Is this also a way of talking about what it's

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>like to be like a.

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 4>Working woman in twenty twenty six when you being a

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 4>bread winner and you got an eight shit, you know

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying, like trying to show that perspective, to

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 4>really demasculate Nick Nate in a way that like, again,

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 4>he's not getting what he wants and it's in the

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 4>even though he bought into all this till now, he

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 4>buys into it because he needed to make a living.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 4>I do understand what you're saying. I think there is

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 4>something there as to what they're saying about men like Nate.

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 4>I do think that Sam Levison is definitely trying to

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 4>say something with how he presenting the main man characters

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 4>in this show when they look like Nate. So yeah,

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 4>I think that there's a lot there in the sense

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 4>of her being the bread whin her him being the cook,

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 4>the stuff we see happening to him. Like Mike said,

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 4>I didn't need to see him get his sminger cut

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 4>off again.

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 5>It's like, we get it.

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>We get it.

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 5>The thing that I did wonder about and the only

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 5>thing that interests me because I did say this earlier.

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 5>In the sense nobody dies here, I don't see him

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 5>being able to go anywhere else, Like I don't see

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 5>him like that. I'm assuming that this season will probably

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 5>end in death for that character. I don't see what

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 5>else they could do. We've seen it all till Mike's point, like,

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to see him suffer again, and we

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 5>already hate him, so I don't want to see him

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 5>up either. So where do you go from this other

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 5>than death? So I think that that's what they send

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 5>it up for us for him, he's by piece because

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 5>it probably won't even have to do with this. It

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 5>probably will be something if this show does have any

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 5>of its own soul left, it probably would be something

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 5>that we totally didn't think of. He'll die.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, Kate, what did you think about Nate?

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>It would probably have to be.

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 8>By this It's the only reasonable path left. His actions

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 8>make sense because he doesn't have it. The one person

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 8>that has it or that's getting it is Cassie. Nate

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 8>is or has been selfish. I guess he still is

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 8>somewhat selfish, but he's desperate, he's broken, and he has

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:51.439
<v Speaker 8>no other option.

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>This man was on his knees begging a stranger for

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>some sort of relief.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 8>So if Cassie don't get out there and do all

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 8>this stuff and send him thirty thousand dollars to what

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 8>he hoped helped save another body part, then he would

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 8>absolutely do it. Now, the thing that has happened to

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 8>him is that he's just completely spiraling out of control,

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 8>and they didn't spend enough time kind of showing like

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 8>maybe the effects of him demeaning himself to those people

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 8>and what that did to him emotionally to the point

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 8>where he's just sitting around the house just drinking and

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 8>just wasting away. And that's why he's just going to

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 8>be out there there pivoting her out. But Yeah, that's

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 8>that's what I think about Nate.

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>But I don't. It doesn't bother me as much as

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>it does other folks. I think I just kind of.

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 8>It was just like it's five years later and I

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 8>just kind of went along with I guess what I

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 8>guess this new version of the character is. I think

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 8>it would have been helpful the show maybe haven't discussed it,

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 8>you know, every episode of why he.

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Sort of morph into this new guy? And I think

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that maybe and the issue that people feel it is

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>like what happened? And why how do we get to

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy?

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>What's the reason he just popped up on seeing he

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, this ain't the guy I once knew quickly.

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 4>We also see again going back to Cassie, that her

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 4>professional career is starting to take off to where she's

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 4>now getting TV roles, and we see Lexi was able

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 4>to get her an audition tape, being forced by Maddie,

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.280
<v Speaker 4>of course, but she did it for her sister anyway.

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Nay, did you like her audition tape?

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 9>Who on Lexi? She just wanted to get away from

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 9>this girl and she just can't do it, Like she.

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 6>Just wants to carve out her own little niche in life,

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 6>and here come her sister, just encroaching on her independence.

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 6>I felt so bad for Lexi this episode, but I

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 6>kind of liked her audition tape.

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 9>Was that supposed to be good?

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Like, I was like, look at her.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 9>She actually kind of acting a little bit. Don't go ahead, and.

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 2>She threw me off with the Shakespeare. I was like, okay,

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I expect that speare anybody.

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>What you think of?

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 10>Uh?

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that tape? Roight?

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 7>No? I was trying to figure out what they were

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 7>doing here, but I thought it was interesting how you

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 7>know they took It's just totally unexpected. You're just just like,

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 7>oh wait, she just broke out in Shakespearean form, like

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:31.720
<v Speaker 7>what the hell just happened?

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 3>So, I don't know, I feel like they're still trolling us.

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Whoever said that before? Like that controlled like it's like,

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, she's this Benbo girl or whatever.

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 7>But then she breaks out into like Shakespeare acting like

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 7>that's that's yeah, again, just trolling us.

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 5>Loud.

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you think this is gonna lead to anything?

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how much. Yeah, I mean maybe she

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.439
<v Speaker 5>gets another episode or something like that, Like I don't

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 5>know how far it'll lead her into Hollywood, or maybe

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 5>we see her get lucky like she had throughout this

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 5>whole series and it leaves to so big. I could

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 5>see that, But I do think as far as the

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 5>Shakespeare and tape Rey, like Roger, they were trolling, like

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 5>I think that this is a conversation that she does having.

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna act as goofy and bimbowish and put on

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 5>this blonde wig character, and you have to show at

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 5>least one scene or some point in this series where

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 5>I can really show my acting chops. Because she bodied it.

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 5>She did a really good job right here, and I

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 5>was surprised, and I was like, maybe she acting that

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 5>dumb and the rest of it, so she like this

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 5>will stand out, because it really did stand out. Like

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.439
<v Speaker 5>what Nate said, I'm looked at it. I'm like, all right, damn,

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 5>I ain't no Sydney Sweeney had that bag right there.

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.760
<v Speaker 5>It was It felt like a different show for a second.

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 5>So I think she did a really good job with this,

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 5>and I think a conversation was had where she had

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.720
<v Speaker 5>to get this in here because of how she's acting

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.720
<v Speaker 5>and how we said she's acted throughout this whole series

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 5>mostly this episode, right, Did you.

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Like the audition tape?

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought it was good.

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 4>But while y'all were talking, I was trying to think back.

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.280
<v Speaker 4>I thought they had said that she was an actress

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 4>when she was like a kid or something. Didn't they

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 4>say that in one of the previous seasons that she

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 4>had Like.

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no no.

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Didn't they say in one of the previous seasons that

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 4>she was like an actor when she was an actress

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 4>when she was younger, like she had been in plays

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 4>or something, Because.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it was her sister for not putting

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 5>her into play, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm almost positive they said something in either season one

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 4>or season two that implied that she was like that she.

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Grew up doing theater or something like that. So this

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't really seem off to me.

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 4>As far as Sidney Sweeney herself, I do think Sidney

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Sweeney is a good actress. I just think she's a

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 4>shithead of a person. So her doing a really good

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 4>job at Shakespeare, I was like, yeah, it makes sense,

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I thought this scene was cool. Do you

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 4>think that Lexi's friends and family are gonna get her fired?

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 4>She working on her Lexi's friends and family gonna get

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 4>her fired. I mean to like the things like like

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 4>the reputation that she built up because even it was

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 4>acknowledging Cassie's audition when they were like, oh yeah, we

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 4>love Lexi. Like, I feel like if she keeps sucking

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 4>up based off the connection she's has bringing in, it's

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 4>gonna be like, all right, we gotta.

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 5>Let you go.

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I could see that.

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know which one of them is gonna be

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 4>that gets her eyes fired. But Lexi needs to start

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.720
<v Speaker 4>speaking up at some point or she's just gonna lose

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 4>everything she's worked for.

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Maddie had a little too much power to get

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.799
<v Speaker 5>this playoff. I ain't even like this. This was real

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 5>convenient from her fake in the phone call with Cassie,

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 5>like having it on Dick when she had the other

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 5>contract that she signed and she's like, oh, I think

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 5>let me I got you a booking like she thought

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 5>of it quick. And then she goes to talk to

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 5>her about the getting her book for the audition, It's like,

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 5>do you really want to be an enemy of mine? Like,

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 5>do you really got that much more power?

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>She over Lexi?

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah she would. Lexie's a chunk.

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 5>I could see what Maddie could make life hard for

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 5>but it just took me a hard time to believe

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 5>that that's that's the play. Like, I feel like they

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 5>rushed that. I feel like that that was really rushed

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 5>that whole it could have been flushed out a little

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:37.879
<v Speaker 5>bit more.

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:41.919
<v Speaker 2>I thought it made sense. I think Lexi is gonna

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 2>do whatever.

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, Maddie is gonna do whatever Maddie has to

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 4>do to get what Maddie wants. And the second she

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 4>thought of that audition, she was like, Okay, fuck, how

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 4>can I get this? You know, squared away Lexi and

0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 4>she knew she could punk Lexi into doing that.

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I get you, Spike.

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.919
<v Speaker 4>It was quick, but I kind of liked it because

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 4>it shows that Maddie is the only motherfucker here that's

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 4>quick on her feet that all times.

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 5>That's a good point because that's what I liked on

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 5>her with her about this episode, even with the latter

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 5>saying that she was thinking, like, I could I could

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 5>make this work.

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 2>So moving on real quick, I want to talk about

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Jewles before we go with the ending uh story.

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 4>The main storyline ken we see that Ruin Jules are

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 4>still hanging out and this is the first time we

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 4>see him hanging out since the wedding.

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.359
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about the conversation they had when

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Jules asked for Ru's body count?

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 8>Well, one, I thought I thought Jules were playing too

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 8>many damn games with the whole do you want to

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 8>kiss me?

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 5>Ship?

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Back and forth about this? What huh.

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Tell a girl, Hey girl, you want to kiss me,

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 2>come take it?

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>She said you can take whatever you want.

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 8>After that, I was like, well, damn juice, Okay, I

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 8>guess that's consent. But she played these games bro like like, oh,

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 8>do you want to kiss me?

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Welcome kiss me? Do you want to kiss me? All?

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to kiss me? On It's like what

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what are you doing? Why are we going

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>back and forth like white playing like this? Just say?

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 8>It was annoying, but anyway, but nevertheless, the conversation that

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 8>they had about the body count, it was interesting because

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 8>I'm like, why are you all in and Roue's business

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:48.479
<v Speaker 8>like that, and uh, but I guess she's just trying

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 8>to figure out where she mays it in this current

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 8>situation right now with.

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Giving her situation as well.

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 8>But you know, my thing is like, well, why you're

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 8>worried about what does that have to do with you?

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 8>But I didn't. I don't think I recalled that her

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 8>and Andrew were like a real item, like that were they.

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 6>Up a little bit? But I mean, yeah, clearly they

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 6>I mean it has sex. They showed that. But and

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 6>there was a connection. But like to say it was

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 6>a relationship might have been a stretch. But like, let's

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 6>look at the like, because Jules and Route wasn't really

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 6>they were like a situationship, So it may have been

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 6>as close to a relationship as Rue has gotten.

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 9>This annoyed me. I got it, but it annoyed me.

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Why why did it annoy you?

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 9>Kind of to Kid's.

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 6>Point, it's like, stop playing, like, stop playing games, Like

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 6>she she's playing games, but she's not right.

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:58.919
<v Speaker 9>I think that ultimately, Jules is calling out what has always.

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.359
<v Speaker 6>Been Jewels and Ruth's iss you, which is that Ruth

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:06.399
<v Speaker 6>does not make her feel like she really wants her.

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 6>She's just around until Jules makes a move, if she

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.360
<v Speaker 6>makes a move, right, And when you think about the

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 6>type of relationships that Jules is in with the other

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 6>people that she's involved in, she's always kind of like dominated.

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:23.800
<v Speaker 6>So I think Jules was kind of saying like, I

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.720
<v Speaker 6>want you to dominate me like these other people, because

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 6>there's something there.

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.800
<v Speaker 9>But I just don't don't. I don't care about the

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 9>Rue Jewels romance anymore. Like I'm more interested in seeing

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 9>how Jules deals with her the way people deal with

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 9>her identity, than I am interested in the Jewels rule

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 9>of it all. I don't care about their connection anymore.

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Mike, do you feel the same, mm hmm, No, I'm.

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 4>Prior to this episode, I would have agreed, But I

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.320
<v Speaker 4>think this episode kind of showed why Jules acted the

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 4>way she's acting, and I think that the way they

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 4>did that cut kind of reinforced it. I think Jewles

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 4>is just sick of being a side piece. Jules is

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.720
<v Speaker 4>tired of being like I think Jewels feels like nothing,

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. I think when they when

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 4>they when they cut to the guy, that that's fucking her.

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 4>I can't remember the guy's name, Ellie. And when he

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 4>says to her like, yeah, I like you, but I

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 4>love my wife, I love my family, it made that

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 4>cut make all the more sense because it went right

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:37.839
<v Speaker 4>from Jewels playing with Rue to us, almost thinking, Okay, yeah,

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 4>that's them fucking now, but it's not. It's her getting

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:45.879
<v Speaker 4>used or exploited once again by this guy. And then

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 4>she starts crying because she Why are y'all laughing.

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Anyway? Anyway? I think this is this is her. I

0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 2>forgot my train of thought, y'all some ignorant motherfuckers. Brou damn.

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I hate Spike block his whole square. I wasn't even.

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:09.880
<v Speaker 1>You laughing.

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I forgot what I was saying. Nick, I'm sorry

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 2>now you were saying this about.

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Though, Bro. It was mean as hell? What was mean? Though?

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 4>He threw the drawers in the face. Yeah, yeah, and

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 4>does not look like she takes showers off and probably stink.

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 4>We see what she We see what Ru does every episode.

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.840
<v Speaker 4>She'd be a big slop in the basement with some

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 4>fitting off fiends her. Yeah, Oh that's what I was

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 4>gonna say. Yeah, because she cried after that after he

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 4>said that ship to her. So I think that was

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:52.320
<v Speaker 4>her thinking about like I wish I had something like that,

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:55.399
<v Speaker 4>which is I think is why she's using Rue.

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I think Rue does still have feelings for jewels.

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.439
<v Speaker 4>Outside of I just find her attractive I think, Yeah,

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 4>I think Rue has genuine emotional feelings for Jules, and

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 4>that is probably the most relationship type relationship that both

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 4>of them have ever had. They're both just used to

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:18.759
<v Speaker 4>just floating around doing whatever, you know.

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 6>Which is why I don't want Jules to beat around

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 6>the bush and ask and playing games.

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 5>He was talking about me.

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that Spike's fault.

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:40.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I that's why I want her to just be

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 6>straightforward with them, because they they do have so much

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 6>history and they both want connections.

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 9>To just call a thing a thing. Stop playing games with.

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 6>Rue because you know, like Ruth has a difficult time

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 6>communicating that because she always has. Yeah, I just I

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 6>think that's why it annoyed me, because ultimately, you want

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.400
<v Speaker 6>to admit that this is something, so just say it

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 6>is something, just saying Jesus.

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Rob, what was your thoughts on they conversation between Ruin

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and Jules.

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm with what, like Ken said, it was

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.360
<v Speaker 3>just a little annoying, but I got it.

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean it just.

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I guess I guess it was the it was it

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 3>was an okay.

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:30.320
<v Speaker 7>Band, I guess for the show, the dialogue and whatnot.

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 7>I did like that it was kind of old school

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 7>of them, kind of going back and forth to what

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 7>we were.

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Used to seeing in in a sense.

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, just it just I don't know, it just

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 3>it just ultimately just felt annoying and awkward.

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 7>And then they cut to where you think it's them

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 7>having sex, but then it's the guy and her having sex.

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 3>So that was like a kind of like a abating

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 3>abating switch situation. Because did y'all think that it was

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 3>them too in it on versus? Yeah? Yeah, so it

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.359
<v Speaker 3>was like a baiting switch. So I think they did

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 3>that to set up that scene like that.

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 1>And then work.

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Tearing that ship up.

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:20.320
<v Speaker 5>Damn ju, she don't leave her drawers in the middle

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 5>of her bathroom.

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Spike, you get it that good? Sometimes you just

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>don't even think about it.

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>She knows she loved without her draws, but can't he

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>he was, Hey, my.

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Thing was he was upset. He was like, he was like, listen,

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to.

0:51:48.400 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 12>No, like, you got these stinky draws, like you everybody

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:02.839
<v Speaker 12>things be in the middle.

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I did, That's what he was crying, like bo boxing,

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't never use these again.

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>So I.

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Like, like you said, she was crying because the draws

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 2>her face up was upset, said God was like the farts.

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:39.240
<v Speaker 5>You face.

0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:47.320
<v Speaker 11>Come on, disrespectful, especially if they stink, broing some dirty

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 11>draws and somebody man and to say, I like you,

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 11>I love.

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 5>But he was he was keeping it really keeping like

0:52:57.040 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 5>the situation that you have going on with Jules. I

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 5>think that's his blunt and it's real as he can

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 5>keep it to protect her and himself, Like, look, this

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 5>is what this is. But you're gonna have somebody in here.

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:09.200
<v Speaker 5>They might get bright ideas and then this will turn

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:11.440
<v Speaker 5>in the old something else and I lose my family.

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:14.440
<v Speaker 5>Like you, you have to be careful, and you're not

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:17.240
<v Speaker 5>being careful if you got dirty draws in my bathroom.

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:21.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, liked the.

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Wife and kids, and I can't go home with an STD.

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 5>You wasn't even don't fund anybody else.

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Just like you need to be careful what you say. Name.

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 6>I said, if you don't want to go home to

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:35.240
<v Speaker 6>the s CD and you love your wife and stop

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 6>fucking other people.

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:38.040
<v Speaker 2>That's too logical.

0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 3>Name.

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 2>You always try to bring that to these conversations.

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that this is just like pet toy or

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 3>he's treated it like that.

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 4>Yep, it's a fetish for him, and Jules knows that

0:53:55.040 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 4>until then, Well, it didn't hit her until then. He

0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 4>was struffing that thing. She looks like one of them

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 4>sausages from the gas station.

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Shew right there. She's like, that's what God like in

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the hospital, glove. That's crazy.

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was crazy. That super crazy.

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 5>Does you know what's up? Like, look at look what

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 5>she live at.

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:45.360
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, that's the cost of doing. But

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 2>you've seen that if you ride.

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 5>Like she's asking about bills, groceries, cable internet, none of that. Like,

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:53.479
<v Speaker 5>she's just living.

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine.

0:54:59.880 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 2>My she young lou, she don't know no better.

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:10.480
<v Speaker 4>That's true, right, come on, she might have lost them,

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:12.760
<v Speaker 4>like maybe threw them across who knows?

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 9>Is that to insinuate that after that conversation her.

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:21.320
<v Speaker 2>And oh yeah, yeah that's how I took it.

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, Rue just stunk. And she told her you

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 5>got to bathe for you.

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Your booty stink. You saw them she was sitting on

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:36.720
<v Speaker 2>the couch and how busted them Chucks looked. Chucks was dirty?

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Respectful for her to put them on the living room flow,

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:44.799
<v Speaker 2>I agree, take them off at the door.

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you gotta take them off the door.

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 2>But her feet probably smell worse than their shoes. I

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:52.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe maybe jewels like that musk.

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 5>They always make Chinese good in Chinese take out?

0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 9>You going with that car?

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:09.799
<v Speaker 4>I was like, we're gonna say, were about to find

0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 4>out what lou fetish or cake? And I was like,

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:23.440
<v Speaker 4>all right, we'll see. We did we see, We're going

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:26.320
<v Speaker 4>to the main stage now. We didn't jump to Alamo

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 4>at his crib going off Nate.

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.840
<v Speaker 2>At a BC was showing up bits and pieces in

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 2>this episode.

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 4>We're trying to understand what well Big Eddie, after getting

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:40.760
<v Speaker 4>shot in his gut, would tell Laurie's crew where.

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:42.720
<v Speaker 2>The safe is at? What did you think of Alamo

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 2>in this scene.

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:47.239
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna talk about his whole episode in general, but

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:48.800
<v Speaker 4>what do you think about him in this scene and

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:49.799
<v Speaker 4>what he did to the little boy?

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:53.320
<v Speaker 9>I couldn't remember who called it, but somebody said.

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:55.920
<v Speaker 6>I think it was saying that like Spike and Ron

0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 6>one of y'all, what do y'all heard, niggas y'all was

0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:03.840
<v Speaker 6>like this, why like like that that at BC was

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:07.200
<v Speaker 6>gonna have that reaction to Edie like he knew that

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 6>that was like he basically sealed his faith by by

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 6>opening that that.

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 9>That's safe for him. I think that they are doing

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 9>a really good job with this character.

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 6>Alamo's layers is like because the minute you think like

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 6>he reacts, and then he had the little boy piss

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 6>himself and he flipping out about how water pants, and

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:31.920
<v Speaker 6>it's like he comes.

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:35.120
<v Speaker 9>Off as this real menace. And then the next scene

0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 9>he's playing jazz and talking softly and doing.

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 6>Like like honorable business deals with Maddie. Like he is

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 6>such a nuanced character.

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 9>I really really like what they are doing with like

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:52.280
<v Speaker 9>they I just want an Alamo show.

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:53.600
<v Speaker 5>At this point, but.

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:55.680
<v Speaker 2>You didn't it.

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 9>The Indians spit down. I'm like, I like the jazz.

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 9>I like jazz.

0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 4>It was a slip sing over him with the white

0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 4>girl on the counch and he just playing like as

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 4>he talking ship.

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 5>In the trump He's just playing the trumpet. Yeah, I

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:19.000
<v Speaker 5>got a background music.

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 4>I like to because I thought they I thought they

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:24.200
<v Speaker 4>had a scene where there was a record being played

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 4>or whatever.

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Somebody put a record on the final and I thought

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 2>that was what he was hearing. But he over here

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 2>with a half a glass of yat ride.

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Doing his best Miles Davis, What did you think about

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:42.320
<v Speaker 4>that logic though, because Marshawn and Bishop chimed in on

0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 4>it as far as.

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Like big Eddie, he like he was man, you know,

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 2>rocking a hard place.

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean it was true, true, true spit Like

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 7>he was really just just saying, like I'm saying, I.

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:03.959
<v Speaker 5>Think Mike, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 5>my bad in your room.

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm fidgety. I'm fidgety this, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I

0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:21.640
<v Speaker 2>mean myself.

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 7>I like the realness that mar Shan brings to it.

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:31.920
<v Speaker 7>Like he was just like, look, I'm just saying I

0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 7>get what he did. I'm not saying I would have

0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 7>good exact same thing. I'm just saying that I get

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 7>the mindset of what he did, you know what I'm saying.

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 7>But but yeah, Alamo wasn't trying to hear that or whatnot.

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it was going back.

0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 7>To what we were saying last episode. But but nah, Yeah,

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:55.600
<v Speaker 7>it's I like, I like what the two characters bring

0:59:56.040 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 7>to the show, Marshawan and Bishop. They bring like different

1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:04.640
<v Speaker 7>type of logic to the situation, and I'm really surprised

1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:08.240
<v Speaker 7>that well what Yeah, Alimo did go off on it.

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:09.720
<v Speaker 7>He's like, so what you're saying if you was in

1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:11.640
<v Speaker 7>that position, did the same shit or like you know,

1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 7>so yeah both, but yeah, exactly, exactly exactly. He was

1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:19.120
<v Speaker 7>just being irrational in that moment.

1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:23.240
<v Speaker 5>But I think, like we were saying last episode, Rod,

1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:28.360
<v Speaker 5>that's his expectation then, like they they're not realizing that,

1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 5>Like yeah, yeah, nigga, you have to take a shot

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:32.840
<v Speaker 5>to the gut before you open this safe. As a

1:00:32.880 --> 1:00:34.960
<v Speaker 5>matter of fact, you have to die before you open

1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:36.680
<v Speaker 5>this That's why I hired you. That's why you make

1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:40.160
<v Speaker 5>the cyber money. That's that's why you hear So I

1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:42.640
<v Speaker 5>agree with Nay in the sense of, like, this is

1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:45.400
<v Speaker 5>the most interesting thing going on in this whole series.

1:00:45.840 --> 1:00:48.400
<v Speaker 5>His character, the conversations that he have and how he

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:50.840
<v Speaker 5>reacts and stuff, Like I thought it was great. He's like,

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.080
<v Speaker 5>do I look five eight nigga, Like, like, how you

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:55.960
<v Speaker 5>even bring these like that was great? He played all

1:00:56.040 --> 1:01:00.200
<v Speaker 5>of that fantastic, even in the scene with Maddie, the

1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:02.480
<v Speaker 5>scene what he's having a conversation with Rue, Like all

1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:06.000
<v Speaker 5>of everything he did he nailed at this episode and

1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:10.200
<v Speaker 5>has been doing so for all of this series. Excuse me,

1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:13.960
<v Speaker 5>all of this season, So I'm the most interested here

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<v Speaker 5>and I think he is a complex character, as Nay

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<v Speaker 5>was saying, and it's just a lot more intriguing. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if it's because he's a new character or

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it may be, but this is like reminds me

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<v Speaker 5>of the euphoria that we were used to when we

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<v Speaker 5>would be with someone like Fenn or something like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and all the stuff that was going on in his world.

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<v Speaker 5>This is like a higher elevated version of that. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's just so good. And he's been the actor's body.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that whole pant scene was great.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Ken, I wanted to get your thoughts on that

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<v Speaker 4>because I knew you would find that interesting because to me,

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<v Speaker 4>Alamo is like a trifecta of dangerous charming and a comedian,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying. And it's like every scene

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<v Speaker 4>he kind of just steals, even if he's just doing

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<v Speaker 4>something like sitting on the couch playing an instrument, like

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<v Speaker 4>the pants scene, Like what was like, what did you

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<v Speaker 4>think was gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Happen at that scene?

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<v Speaker 8>I thought that he was so frustrated by what Eddie

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<v Speaker 8>did that he was going to take it out on

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<v Speaker 8>him and the pants scene, when he looked at himself

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<v Speaker 8>in the mirror, he saw someone that looked like a fool,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's what he was starting to like internalize. He

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<v Speaker 8>was like, I do undid all this stuff out of

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<v Speaker 8>how this guy he been with me for fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Years and just like that he betrayed me.

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<v Speaker 8>And you guys in here, as he called him, a

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<v Speaker 8>bunch of judases are trying to rationalize that, and it

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't make sense. And then on top of this, this

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<v Speaker 8>other idiote brought me some pants that don't fit. So

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<v Speaker 8>everything that's going on right now doesn't fit what I

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<v Speaker 8>have built over the last fifteen years and all falling apart.

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<v Speaker 8>You can't get my clothes right, This motherfucker can't keep

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<v Speaker 8>the safe fucking clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Like nothing is is working, like this ship is off.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so it made sense.

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<v Speaker 5>Kidding away, you explained that that was such a black

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<v Speaker 5>moment that we had sometime where you be like everybody

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<v Speaker 5>got me fucked up. All of y'all got me up,

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<v Speaker 5>Like everybody vi sinity around me, all of y'all got

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<v Speaker 5>me fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the one time where it's like all sins are equal.

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<v Speaker 1>It up.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody got me.

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<v Speaker 4>If you shot me or stepped on my foot, you

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<v Speaker 4>everybody else, I will treat you all the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was a red pants, like a five

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<v Speaker 1>line nigga from high Water.

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<v Speaker 3>He was killing the ship him. Do I look like

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<v Speaker 3>you like like it was just like it was. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just a shame that he was giving man bro

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<v Speaker 3>he was hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh ship that was mike.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh. I wanted to get your thoughts overall, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>but specifically about what Alamo was playing the trump and

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<v Speaker 4>he was talking to Rue and he was telling her

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<v Speaker 4>like I just talked got off the phone with Laurie

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<v Speaker 4>and she's trying to meet up link up. What did

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<v Speaker 4>you think about that as far as like they still

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<v Speaker 4>calling each other, like like you can still reach out

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<v Speaker 4>to Like I thought it was war already. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>you couldn't even I was surprised that he said that

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<v Speaker 4>not only did we talk, but we agreed to meet up.

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<v Speaker 2>Was this before the part where the girl brought the

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<v Speaker 2>coke in the room?

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<v Speaker 4>This was this was before this was before before that,

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<v Speaker 4>It was before this, So yeah, the coke was after

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<v Speaker 4>this scene?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh okay, never mind that I thought it was before.

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<v Speaker 4>It, but now because remember Ue had to go back

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<v Speaker 4>in the store and say, oh yeah, I forgot to

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<v Speaker 4>tell y'all Kitty found a coke that I tried to

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<v Speaker 4>plan on her. And then that's when the whole scene

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<v Speaker 4>of like going to meet up with Maddie at the

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<v Speaker 4>diner happened. Okay, all right, so yeah, so what did

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<v Speaker 4>I sorry you asked, what did I think when this

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<v Speaker 4>When she walked in the room, he was sitting around

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<v Speaker 4>playing the trumpet, well specifically what he was saying, like,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a meat now set up between me and Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he was lying, but I just didn't know why.

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't make any sense to me that he would

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<v Speaker 4>have spoken to Laurie and had a meetup. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just assumed he was lying for some weird reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he was already mad.

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<v Speaker 5>He's trying to see his root talking to the police.

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<v Speaker 5>If you tell if you tell her that I got

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<v Speaker 5>a meeting with Laurie and the police find out about it.

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<v Speaker 5>He knows that she talking to the police.

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<v Speaker 2>But why would he think that if this part was

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<v Speaker 2>before the part this.

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<v Speaker 6>Was after I did too, After the little hispanic broke

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<v Speaker 6>met girl, Gates told him about the.

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<v Speaker 9>Drugs and planet the scene in him like you can't trust.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, your positive. From what I remember, it was it

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<v Speaker 4>was after that, because that's okay. It was because because

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<v Speaker 4>of that, that's how we got to the rule in

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<v Speaker 4>the dirt ship, because to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Was she snitched.

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<v Speaker 6>He called her in to let her know about the

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<v Speaker 6>meeting with Laurie, right, they poled her to the side,

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<v Speaker 6>and then that's what or maybe you are right, because

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<v Speaker 6>maybe that's when they showed up with the trucks.

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe I do have a confuse.

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<v Speaker 5>It was all though, Okay, yeah it was. I just

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<v Speaker 5>pulled it up. So the scene with Rue at the

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<v Speaker 5>diners right after, like Nick said, the coaxing, okay, and.

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<v Speaker 2>The scene we're talking about now was before all the.

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<v Speaker 5>Four gotch.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's why I was throwing me off because

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, why is he even setting this meet

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<v Speaker 4>up with Ry?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is he telling Rue about this?

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<v Speaker 4>And to me also, what was standing out a lot

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<v Speaker 4>with Rue in the scenes with Alimo on his cruise,

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<v Speaker 4>like she was asking too many fucking questions or she

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<v Speaker 4>kept questioning everything, and I was like, you not even.

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<v Speaker 2>Breaking this up with like banter or anything. You just

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<v Speaker 2>asked them, Well, why is this When are you about

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<v Speaker 2>to meet up with her? What ch'all about?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, so, what's the answer, Nicky? Why was

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<v Speaker 2>he doing that?

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<v Speaker 5>Then?

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<v Speaker 4>I think he actually genuinely trusts Ruth up until the

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<v Speaker 4>point of when Kitty got into the came in and

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<v Speaker 4>said like, she's like she threw the coke on the table.

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<v Speaker 4>Because remember, no one really explained exactly what happened. They

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<v Speaker 4>were just focused on Big Eddie getting shot and the

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<v Speaker 4>safe missing money, and now we got we know that

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<v Speaker 4>Laurie's pnchmen were involved, but no one talked to Kitty

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<v Speaker 4>and say, like because Alamo didn't even know she was

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<v Speaker 4>in the room when he was like, this is all

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<v Speaker 4>that really happened in the room before they busted in?

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<v Speaker 4>What you should what we were supposed to tell you

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<v Speaker 4>about Ruby and a snitch?

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<v Speaker 2>But there wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>There wasn't really a meeting between Alamo and Laurie, right,

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<v Speaker 4>he was making that up. So that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Why do y'all think he was making that up?

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is a meet I just think that

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't tell her what day or like when it

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<v Speaker 2>was happening.

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<v Speaker 9>There was they know that Faith.

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<v Speaker 6>They know that Faith was the getaway driver, so that

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<v Speaker 6>Laurie's crew is behind the robbery, and they know that

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<v Speaker 6>Rue is the only one who knows what.

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<v Speaker 9>Her house is like in the lair of her house.

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't know if there was was he saying

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<v Speaker 6>that they have a meeting or if he wants to

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<v Speaker 6>meet her?

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<v Speaker 4>He said thought he was saying there was a meetup

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<v Speaker 4>already set up, So that's why I was confused.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it said that he wanted she want to meet up.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, just got the phone with her and

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<v Speaker 4>she want to link up, and he was like, that's

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<v Speaker 4>when he was like, I feel like she wanted me

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<v Speaker 4>to spread my cheeks, but she gonna spread words.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm confused now, y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>Hm hmm. He's geparating under the assumption that Laurie don't

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<v Speaker 5>know this happened though, because remember we said last week

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<v Speaker 5>they did this without her consent, So maybe she's talking

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<v Speaker 5>to him and not knowing that this happened.

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<v Speaker 4>But they have beef before that before the robbery thing

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<v Speaker 4>happened without the pig and the and the bird and ship.

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<v Speaker 2>She's still upset about that. She knows they killed the bird.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, but he still got about drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not she's drugs from him after after he killed her.

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<v Speaker 2>Bird not my mama. Bird ain't no way.

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<v Speaker 8>I think business may supersede all that though, ben Uh

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<v Speaker 8>still trying to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know about the bird thing. That bird

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<v Speaker 2>was her best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It was well Rob.

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<v Speaker 4>What we do know is that Rue, based off of

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<v Speaker 4>what Alamo told her, went back to the.

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<v Speaker 2>DA and now they want to be in on that

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<v Speaker 2>meeting as well, get a wire or something.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we see that Rue was starting to make

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<v Speaker 4>phone calls to make that happen and going out, basically

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<v Speaker 4>going out of pocket. Do you think it was a

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<v Speaker 4>mistake for her to call Laurie and Wayne back to back?

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<v Speaker 2>Wayne, the god fucking faith your fa the Nazi guy,

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<v Speaker 2>the Nazi?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you ask me?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it?

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<v Speaker 4>What was a mistake for her to call Lourie and

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<v Speaker 4>Wayne back to back, especially after we've Alamo just told

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<v Speaker 4>her about the whole meeting and then she told her

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<v Speaker 4>DA and it not only does she call Lourie, but

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<v Speaker 4>she called Wayne like I'm thinking, like, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>they're gonna bring that up in the meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Somehow, somebody is gonna get brought up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't tie like that because it didn't seem like

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<v Speaker 7>the Wayne guy was. I mean, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 7>he would bring it up, just like it just seemed

1:11:01.320 --> 1:11:01.559
<v Speaker 7>like she.

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<v Speaker 3>Was trying to get a job back. He's just like,

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<v Speaker 3>are you too late for that? So I don't understand,

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<v Speaker 3>like how why that would come up in a meeting later.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was just to I think that was

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<v Speaker 3>just to get the DNA the information that they needed.

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<v Speaker 9>It ultimately words right like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he said that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 9>And I shouldn't think.

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<v Speaker 6>It was suspicious for her to call the guy back

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<v Speaker 6>because of the way Laurie got off this.

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<v Speaker 9>Like hung up on her. So I don't know. The

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<v Speaker 9>order of that didn't seem sketchy.

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<v Speaker 6>It just felt like kind of pissed for writing, because like,

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<v Speaker 6>so is the is the cops situation?

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<v Speaker 9>Is the snitch situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Over m H?

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<v Speaker 5>Why you say that?

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<v Speaker 9>Because they essentially.

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<v Speaker 6>Needed her to be able to get something on Laurie's

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<v Speaker 6>crew to incriminate them. The guy answered the phone and

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<v Speaker 6>admitted that Rue was a drug mule for them, so

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<v Speaker 6>he corroborated the pictures that they had of her. So

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<v Speaker 6>does that mean that she's fulfilled her obligation and they

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<v Speaker 6>can arrest Laurie and now be done.

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<v Speaker 4>That would probably work for someone that has some sense,

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<v Speaker 4>but for someone like Rue that doesn't know any better,

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<v Speaker 4>they can keep using her whenever they feel like.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's what a compidential informant is. Though, like once

1:12:20.160 --> 1:12:26.000
<v Speaker 5>you are like, they always can bring right everybody fulfillment

1:12:26.080 --> 1:12:28.920
<v Speaker 5>of your obligations. Once they have the charges on you,

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<v Speaker 5>they can always come back and say, I'm gonna charge

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<v Speaker 5>you with this if you don't do what I What

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<v Speaker 5>I say now I went back to the scene with

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<v Speaker 5>the guy on RUD looks like what we said last

1:12:39.320 --> 1:12:41.400
<v Speaker 5>week she did. Laurie didn't know her crew did this.

1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:46.320
<v Speaker 5>Right when she found out, she called him and offered, Well,

1:12:46.520 --> 1:12:48.720
<v Speaker 5>she ain't make the offer, but he thinks she trying

1:12:48.720 --> 1:12:50.640
<v Speaker 5>to get the money back because in the scene he

1:12:50.760 --> 1:12:53.519
<v Speaker 5>says the rule where would she probably be keeping my money?

1:12:53.840 --> 1:12:56.040
<v Speaker 5>And Rue says in the basement. So that's what the

1:12:56.120 --> 1:12:58.559
<v Speaker 5>call was about with them too, that we were stumped about.

1:13:00.200 --> 1:13:02.240
<v Speaker 5>So that's why they were even talking because she probably

1:13:02.240 --> 1:13:04.120
<v Speaker 5>found out that these assholes went out and done that

1:13:04.360 --> 1:13:07.400
<v Speaker 5>in her name, and now she calling him even though

1:13:07.400 --> 1:13:08.800
<v Speaker 5>they beef and being like, well, I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>go that far. They did this without my knowing. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>meet m That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't feel like, why would you write like

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<v Speaker 2>they like.

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<v Speaker 5>He Robin is different in the drug world, or like

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<v Speaker 5>when you get to robbing each other, like it's something

1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:30.760
<v Speaker 5>like that. I don't think she wanted to take his money.

1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:33.240
<v Speaker 5>You killed my birds, like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:34.680
<v Speaker 5>You never loved the animal like that.

1:13:34.880 --> 1:13:36.679
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. You know, you like killing

1:13:36.800 --> 1:13:37.960
<v Speaker 2>somebody child to them.

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<v Speaker 5>Laurie, don't see me as a type that would want

1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:43.479
<v Speaker 5>them to go do that without her knowing that. That's

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<v Speaker 5>why she may have called.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that.

1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:50.120
<v Speaker 4>I just don't know how much I agree that after

1:13:50.280 --> 1:13:53.040
<v Speaker 4>they came to her house and killed her bird in

1:13:53.160 --> 1:13:56.640
<v Speaker 4>her house, and then her her henchman went and did

1:13:56.720 --> 1:14:00.760
<v Speaker 4>this whatever Jack move. I just don't know how much

1:14:00.800 --> 1:14:03.280
<v Speaker 4>it makes sense for her to then call Alamo and

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<v Speaker 4>try to like make because.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I don't think that satisfies the requirement

1:14:07.640 --> 1:14:10.760
<v Speaker 5>for her. Because even in the scene when he said

1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:12.479
<v Speaker 5>she called, he said, I think she's gonna try to

1:14:12.520 --> 1:14:15.799
<v Speaker 5>fuck me. They're going to rob him.

1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:16.120
<v Speaker 1>That don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think the burd meant so much to her.

1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:20.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't think that that money means anything. She wants

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<v Speaker 5>something more. So I think that's the reason for the

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<v Speaker 5>phone call, like, no, you killed, give you about your

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<v Speaker 5>money back, but you still God, I can do this,

1:14:29.560 --> 1:14:32.640
<v Speaker 5>And that's what he was apprehensive of when now I

1:14:32.760 --> 1:14:34.840
<v Speaker 5>was like, well yeah, he was like, she gonna try

1:14:34.840 --> 1:14:36.479
<v Speaker 5>to fuck me, and he was like, well, you're not

1:14:36.560 --> 1:14:37.040
<v Speaker 5>going for that.

1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:39.320
<v Speaker 2>So I think she's like, Nah, that little.

1:14:39.160 --> 1:14:41.599
<v Speaker 5>That little robbery, we can squash that because I got

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<v Speaker 5>more in plan for you got it?

1:14:49.040 --> 1:14:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Does anybody know why? Bishop?

1:14:51.080 --> 1:14:51.120
<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Who that motherfucker? He was about to cut up in

1:14:53.240 --> 1:14:55.040
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom? Security guard?

1:14:58.520 --> 1:14:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

1:14:59.680 --> 1:15:00.519
<v Speaker 5>I who that was?

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<v Speaker 1>At first?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's to be cut up he did. I agree,

1:15:05.600 --> 1:15:13.000
<v Speaker 5>But that's like, yeah, I get here.

1:15:13.720 --> 1:15:16.280
<v Speaker 2>You gotta kill him. Damn you gotta chop them up.

1:15:16.640 --> 1:15:21.560
<v Speaker 5>Shoot me, you got to put the body somewhere. Shoot you,

1:15:21.680 --> 1:15:25.360
<v Speaker 5>you gotta cut you up. But that's part of the

1:15:25.400 --> 1:15:27.320
<v Speaker 5>trope that I didn't like because they're playing and it's

1:15:27.360 --> 1:15:29.960
<v Speaker 5>like he's doing and suiting up. It was funny. I

1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:31.840
<v Speaker 5>enjoyed the scene, but they were trying to make it

1:15:31.920 --> 1:15:33.360
<v Speaker 5>act like he wish to do something to rule, and

1:15:33.400 --> 1:15:34.960
<v Speaker 5>I just knew that it wasn't, So there was no

1:15:35.800 --> 1:15:36.559
<v Speaker 5>suspense there.

1:15:37.320 --> 1:15:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it's more so for her not us.

1:15:40.040 --> 1:15:41.160
<v Speaker 5>Mmm. I didn't like it.

1:15:43.000 --> 1:15:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Me too.

1:15:44.479 --> 1:15:45.880
<v Speaker 2>She could lose a fingers fight.

1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:49.640
<v Speaker 5>You're putting off and you're putting all that on this

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<v Speaker 5>mold and the finger like.

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<v Speaker 9>He he is killing I think I agree.

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<v Speaker 6>As an audience, we know that he's probably not doing

1:16:04.360 --> 1:16:07.679
<v Speaker 6>it for rue, but then for me, it's playing into

1:16:08.080 --> 1:16:08.840
<v Speaker 6>the whole idea.

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<v Speaker 9>How much does Alamo and his crew actually suspect her?

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<v Speaker 9>So it's like they're messing with her mind at this point.

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<v Speaker 9>So I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't, even though, Yeah, this whole snitching trope annoys me,

1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:24.520
<v Speaker 6>and the suspense of it is annoying because it's.

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<v Speaker 9>Kind of cliche.

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<v Speaker 6>But like I said, I think last week they do

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<v Speaker 6>it well enough with this particular group of actors and

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<v Speaker 6>this particular group of characters.

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<v Speaker 9>But it's still kind of enjoyable. Even with like the

1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:40.439
<v Speaker 9>way the episode ended, I'm still kind of like interested.

1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Can for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Once we once the whole we talked about the kiddie

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<v Speaker 4>scene and how Alimo was like, Okay, now I really

1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:53.200
<v Speaker 4>got a lead on on what's going on with Ruth.

1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:57.680
<v Speaker 2>He pulled up to her favorite diner with Maddie and.

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<v Speaker 4>It was and this is a scene that I didn't expect,

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<v Speaker 4>like me enjoying as much as I like, I thought

1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:07.559
<v Speaker 4>I would like seeing Alamo sit with Rue and Maddie

1:17:08.560 --> 1:17:12.080
<v Speaker 4>and be so dangerous, but then the nigga actually just

1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:14.400
<v Speaker 4>like just talking to him like a regular guy, like

1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:17.400
<v Speaker 4>it's it was brilliant, Like I didn't know what was

1:17:17.439 --> 1:17:18.800
<v Speaker 4>about to happen. I didn't know he was gonna cut

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<v Speaker 4>the throat or ask Maddy out on a date. He

1:17:21.800 --> 1:17:22.559
<v Speaker 4>could have done both.

1:17:24.320 --> 1:17:26.760
<v Speaker 5>This is the best the episode to me, This was

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<v Speaker 5>really good.

1:17:32.680 --> 1:17:34.720
<v Speaker 1>It was I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 8>And I love the way he walked in with the boots,

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<v Speaker 8>very westernike, you know, at the big the belt and stuff,

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<v Speaker 8>before he even showed who he was, and he was

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<v Speaker 8>just extremely like disarmed me. And I was wondering because

1:17:51.960 --> 1:17:54.320
<v Speaker 8>because I know, like after they had the whole conversation

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<v Speaker 8>about you know, who each other were, you know, when

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<v Speaker 8>when he told that they would give them a drive back,

1:18:03.439 --> 1:18:05.080
<v Speaker 8>and was like, oh, don't you have somewhere to go?

1:18:05.160 --> 1:18:06.880
<v Speaker 8>Blah blah blah blah blah, And Maddy was like, no,

1:18:07.000 --> 1:18:10.439
<v Speaker 8>I'm good, And I'm like, well, did Maddie like pick

1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:13.280
<v Speaker 8>up the clues that trying to put down or.

1:18:15.760 --> 1:18:19.679
<v Speaker 5>Like, yeah, I think she did give a fuck. Really,

1:18:19.840 --> 1:18:21.760
<v Speaker 5>I thought she picked up on all of it. I

1:18:21.880 --> 1:18:23.960
<v Speaker 5>thought they did a great job of showing how smart

1:18:24.400 --> 1:18:26.680
<v Speaker 5>Maddie has become versus all of her peers. Like we

1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:28.840
<v Speaker 5>talked about earlier, she was picking up on it. She

1:18:29.000 --> 1:18:30.840
<v Speaker 5>was just like, nah, let me see, it might be

1:18:30.920 --> 1:18:31.320
<v Speaker 5>something here.

1:18:31.479 --> 1:18:35.160
<v Speaker 4>So here's where I disagree, because I feel like every

1:18:35.240 --> 1:18:38.439
<v Speaker 4>single character we interacted with this season, at least the

1:18:38.520 --> 1:18:41.840
<v Speaker 4>main ones, they're all have one thing in common to

1:18:41.960 --> 1:18:44.280
<v Speaker 4>a slight degree, is that they're all naive in some way.

1:18:44.920 --> 1:18:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Nate is naive about how the mob life really don't

1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:54.760
<v Speaker 4>treat you. Maddie's naive about being an influencer. Maddie's naive about.

1:18:54.640 --> 1:18:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Who you're really doing business with.

1:18:55.840 --> 1:18:57.720
<v Speaker 4>When you say I'm gonna do business with anybody trying

1:18:57.760 --> 1:18:59.559
<v Speaker 4>to get money, I don't know if you really want

1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:01.320
<v Speaker 4>to do business with anybody trying to get money.

1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Jewels is.

1:19:04.320 --> 1:19:09.439
<v Speaker 4>Naive about being someone's sugar baby. Lexi is naive about it,

1:19:09.600 --> 1:19:12.320
<v Speaker 4>Like it's just like I feel like everybody's naive. So

1:19:12.439 --> 1:19:14.920
<v Speaker 4>like Maddie not picking up on Rush, it was like

1:19:14.960 --> 1:19:17.040
<v Speaker 4>an obvious thing for me because she's never been she

1:19:17.479 --> 1:19:21.120
<v Speaker 4>rule's been in the streets pick up something he ain't

1:19:21.120 --> 1:19:21.559
<v Speaker 4>never been.

1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:22.000
<v Speaker 5>In the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Maddie.

1:19:23.360 --> 1:19:26.120
<v Speaker 5>I think Maddie looking at it like I get what

1:19:26.320 --> 1:19:29.120
<v Speaker 5>you're saying, but I feel like I can handle myself.

1:19:29.240 --> 1:19:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Yea, U thought the same thing.

1:19:33.760 --> 1:19:35.719
<v Speaker 5>It ain't at that part yet, but she's just looking

1:19:35.760 --> 1:19:38.160
<v Speaker 5>at Roule like, yeah, you different from me. I'm Finnish.

1:19:38.360 --> 1:19:39.920
<v Speaker 5>I can get out of it. I'm gonna make some shake.

1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Ye I don't have a dress.

1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:45.479
<v Speaker 5>I ain't exactly. I ain't working for him. I'm coming

1:19:45.560 --> 1:19:48.280
<v Speaker 5>in with something to offer, Like she looking at it

1:19:48.400 --> 1:19:50.519
<v Speaker 5>like okay, what can I get into it?

1:19:50.600 --> 1:19:52.400
<v Speaker 4>But she don't know that's gonna end up working for him,

1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Like doing that, it's going to be in a situating time.

1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:57.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't feel like that makes her naive. Maybe later

1:19:57.400 --> 1:19:59.880
<v Speaker 5>on in some dangerous like Ruth seeing it from the

1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:03.080
<v Speaker 5>get it like she knew what this was. Maddy's still

1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:04.680
<v Speaker 5>trying to scope for that she's like, maybe I can

1:20:04.760 --> 1:20:06.760
<v Speaker 5>get my little piece of it. And I ain't even

1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:07.880
<v Speaker 5>got to get that deep into it.

1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:11.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

1:20:11.600 --> 1:20:16.400
<v Speaker 3>I think she's looking at it. I think that starnship

1:20:16.680 --> 1:20:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm with Spike.

1:20:18.000 --> 1:20:22.000
<v Speaker 7>I think she's she's having some sort of leverature as

1:20:22.080 --> 1:20:23.360
<v Speaker 7>an actual partner of his.

1:20:24.520 --> 1:20:28.760
<v Speaker 6>And I think Alimo actually respects her a little her

1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:32.080
<v Speaker 6>like there's a there's a mutual thing that that.

1:20:32.400 --> 1:20:34.920
<v Speaker 9>And that's why I think the scene was so freaking good,

1:20:35.320 --> 1:20:37.120
<v Speaker 9>Like there's a mutual.

1:20:37.120 --> 1:20:40.040
<v Speaker 6>Thing there because she she has she has, She's coming

1:20:40.040 --> 1:20:42.920
<v Speaker 6>in with a business, like a legitimate business plan that's

1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:46.280
<v Speaker 6>gonna work with her without him, And he's like, oh,

1:20:46.439 --> 1:20:48.679
<v Speaker 6>I need to get in on what you got going

1:20:48.720 --> 1:20:49.760
<v Speaker 6>on actually.

1:20:49.880 --> 1:20:51.880
<v Speaker 2>To a million a year, hold on, I got girls

1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:54.880
<v Speaker 2>a little better than I get what they saying.

1:20:55.000 --> 1:20:58.840
<v Speaker 7>Though, Like though, for me, Mike, before you get into

1:20:58.880 --> 1:21:04.400
<v Speaker 7>that was like even the fact that she picked out

1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:06.880
<v Speaker 7>the cream of the crop, as he said, She's like,

1:21:06.960 --> 1:21:07.960
<v Speaker 7>oh you you got it.

1:21:08.280 --> 1:21:11.040
<v Speaker 3>You got all these women, you you picked them two

1:21:11.720 --> 1:21:14.160
<v Speaker 3>that are the cream of the crop. So I think

1:21:14.200 --> 1:21:16.320
<v Speaker 3>he respects her on a different level.

1:21:19.720 --> 1:21:23.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm kind of in the middle of all of y'all.

1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:26.439
<v Speaker 4>I see Nick's point about her being naive. I think

1:21:26.479 --> 1:21:29.560
<v Speaker 4>where the naivete comes in is her thinking that she

1:21:29.920 --> 1:21:34.160
<v Speaker 4>can actually handle the ship with Alamo. Yes, because if

1:21:34.240 --> 1:21:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Alamo feels like taking it to a different place, Maddie

1:21:37.520 --> 1:21:40.200
<v Speaker 4>has nothing. And I don't want to speak for you, Nick,

1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:42.240
<v Speaker 4>but I think that's what Nick was kind of sort

1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:47.439
<v Speaker 4>of getting at. Yeah, he Alamo probably respects her, but

1:21:47.560 --> 1:21:51.840
<v Speaker 4>at the same time, Alamo knows like, if I feel

1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:55.320
<v Speaker 4>like making you my property, I'm going to do that.

1:21:56.680 --> 1:21:59.439
<v Speaker 4>So I think that's where this situation is very interesting,

1:21:59.520 --> 1:22:02.280
<v Speaker 4>and I do agree with y'all. This scene was incredible.

1:22:02.520 --> 1:22:05.719
<v Speaker 4>I love the way he was menacing. But he changed

1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:08.599
<v Speaker 4>his tone he started talking to Maddie because at first

1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:11.240
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Oh, he's gonna try to like scammer,

1:22:11.720 --> 1:22:14.400
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna try to pimper. But then when he found

1:22:14.439 --> 1:22:17.360
<v Speaker 4>out like, nah, this girl is smart, this is she's

1:22:17.520 --> 1:22:20.439
<v Speaker 4>not like Rue, then his tone changed up and he

1:22:20.600 --> 1:22:23.680
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, well, let's let's work, let's see how

1:22:23.720 --> 1:22:26.800
<v Speaker 4>we can make this happen. But at some point he's

1:22:26.880 --> 1:22:29.560
<v Speaker 4>not gonna need Maddie anymore, and that's when this is

1:22:29.600 --> 1:22:30.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna go left.

1:22:31.320 --> 1:22:31.840
<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

1:22:32.920 --> 1:22:35.679
<v Speaker 6>I think it'll be interesting to watch how this plays out,

1:22:35.760 --> 1:22:37.920
<v Speaker 6>because the thing that I liked about it is, like

1:22:38.280 --> 1:22:41.160
<v Speaker 6>Lexi called this last episode, she was like, you're like

1:22:41.280 --> 1:22:44.920
<v Speaker 6>some internet pimper or something. To see the way that

1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:49.960
<v Speaker 6>Maddie it can be to these this her circle from

1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:52.080
<v Speaker 6>school the way that, And I think that they kind

1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:55.080
<v Speaker 6>of did the whole episode like they're showing that Maddie

1:22:55.640 --> 1:22:58.280
<v Speaker 6>is kind of to this circle what Alamo is in

1:22:58.439 --> 1:23:02.639
<v Speaker 6>his world, like he capital off of people, manipulates people,

1:23:02.720 --> 1:23:05.840
<v Speaker 6>he uses people, and Maddie does the same thing.

1:23:06.000 --> 1:23:07.519
<v Speaker 9>So it was interesting to see.

1:23:07.400 --> 1:23:10.400
<v Speaker 6>Them kind of parallel that, and then it'll be interesting

1:23:10.479 --> 1:23:12.360
<v Speaker 6>to see how that kind of collides.

1:23:12.479 --> 1:23:14.880
<v Speaker 9>Does that work together or does that become like a

1:23:15.000 --> 1:23:15.680
<v Speaker 9>head butt thing?

1:23:16.320 --> 1:23:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Right, I got you, That's what I'm gonna say.

1:23:18.360 --> 1:23:21.000
<v Speaker 7>She's like an online pimp, Like she's a pimp for

1:23:21.360 --> 1:23:25.000
<v Speaker 7>like online stuff, and he's like a traditional pimp or whatever.

1:23:25.120 --> 1:23:27.720
<v Speaker 3>So together they could really make some money. It's how

1:23:27.760 --> 1:23:28.160
<v Speaker 3>he's seen.

1:23:29.200 --> 1:23:32.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, until he don't need her no more, until he

1:23:32.200 --> 1:23:34.280
<v Speaker 4>figures out how the game works, and he's like, all right, cool,

1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:34.680
<v Speaker 4>you can go.

1:23:35.200 --> 1:23:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't see him.

1:23:36.160 --> 1:23:38.280
<v Speaker 7>I don't see him getting into that world. I don't

1:23:38.280 --> 1:23:40.639
<v Speaker 7>see him getting into the interwet world. I think he's

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<v Speaker 7>good where that and we'll have somebody that can work

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<v Speaker 7>that that sector.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just I don't think that she thinks that he's

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<v Speaker 5>that dangerous because how she was introduced to him. She

1:23:51.600 --> 1:23:54.040
<v Speaker 5>don't know how deep Rue has gotten into the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the next point about naivete.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with that. You're You're right, it's kind of

1:23:59.240 --> 1:24:00.920
<v Speaker 5>naive because she think, Okay, this is just a strip

1:24:01.000 --> 1:24:03.479
<v Speaker 5>club owner. I mean, I can figure it out if

1:24:03.520 --> 1:24:06.200
<v Speaker 5>it happens. She don't know the depths of it because

1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:08.600
<v Speaker 5>she don't know that about Ruth either. When speaks to

1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:10.479
<v Speaker 5>the friendship that she talked about earlier, like, I'm as

1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:12.320
<v Speaker 5>close as Rut as you can get. I don't know

1:24:12.479 --> 1:24:15.040
<v Speaker 5>she smuggled drugs from Mexico and is in on this

1:24:15.280 --> 1:24:17.840
<v Speaker 5>illegal drug business or whatever it may be. So when

1:24:17.880 --> 1:24:20.360
<v Speaker 5>this big black guy come in here, yeah, he's intimidating

1:24:20.400 --> 1:24:22.479
<v Speaker 5>his medicine, But I think he's just a strip club owner.

1:24:24.880 --> 1:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Think about this, right.

1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:30.360
<v Speaker 4>Ruth was clearly trying to get Maddie the fuck out

1:24:30.360 --> 1:24:35.040
<v Speaker 4>of there, and Maddie knew that, but Maddy ignored every

1:24:35.240 --> 1:24:36.799
<v Speaker 4>single one of those signals.

1:24:37.760 --> 1:24:40.800
<v Speaker 5>So I think that she thinks that she's tougher than

1:24:40.880 --> 1:24:44.639
<v Speaker 5>Ruth exactly. Yeah, yeah, she thinks she tougher than Ruth.

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<v Speaker 5>So I can handle this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna be her downfall.

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<v Speaker 3>That might be.

1:24:50.760 --> 1:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Anybody doing business with him.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro. He did the same thing with Rude when he

1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:57.080
<v Speaker 4>found out Rue has something to like sometimes he.

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<v Speaker 6>Was like, guys, Alamo, has this shown us that he

1:25:01.560 --> 1:25:04.240
<v Speaker 6>will fuck people over? He just don't like to be

1:25:04.400 --> 1:25:08.439
<v Speaker 6>fucked over, right, So, like him and Laurie would still

1:25:08.439 --> 1:25:12.040
<v Speaker 6>be doing business if she hadn't called him a pig.

1:25:12.840 --> 1:25:14.120
<v Speaker 9>It's like, until he's.

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<v Speaker 6>Crossed, he hasn't shown any signs of being the type

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<v Speaker 6>of a menacing character who is like he still has

1:25:22.960 --> 1:25:23.879
<v Speaker 6>a code of ethics.

1:25:24.600 --> 1:25:26.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean he he threatened to stab a dude because

1:25:26.920 --> 1:25:28.760
<v Speaker 4>he gave him the wrong pair of pants. I don't

1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:31.120
<v Speaker 4>think this dude is really like on a moral on

1:25:31.280 --> 1:25:33.920
<v Speaker 4>a moral high ground or anything, you know.

1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:38.639
<v Speaker 9>I mean, like like the guy said, like, everybody has

1:25:38.720 --> 1:25:41.640
<v Speaker 9>me fucked up right now, and everybody said could get it.

1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:44.400
<v Speaker 9>So as long as you don't get me up.

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<v Speaker 2>You just talked about this. I told you all sins

1:25:49.280 --> 1:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>are yea like you know when you hit that points

1:25:58.080 --> 1:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>like nah, no, mad he was in the room. I

1:26:01.800 --> 1:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know she might you said, listen to what a

1:26:07.040 --> 1:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>nigga upset? He was certain adjectives. He called things out.

1:26:10.640 --> 1:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>He said, he's red pants, Like you look like a clown.

1:26:20.479 --> 1:26:22.200
<v Speaker 2>He said, you call it.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I don't think that. I don't know if

1:26:27.360 --> 1:26:30.600
<v Speaker 5>that applies to or it will apply to Maddie's relationship

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<v Speaker 5>or even so, I don't know if we can call

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<v Speaker 5>him because maybe when Maddie sees that she get out

1:26:35.360 --> 1:26:36.639
<v Speaker 5>of there makes true.

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<v Speaker 2>She's getting out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>Run.

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<v Speaker 5>She just ain't got yet. She don't have to do

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<v Speaker 5>business with him. Rute tie Rue got a blood contract

1:26:44.479 --> 1:26:47.360
<v Speaker 5>for the other lady, like you don't got no choice.

1:26:47.400 --> 1:26:49.439
<v Speaker 5>Maddie can see her and be like, nah, you know what,

1:26:49.520 --> 1:26:51.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm going back to the corporate world where I'm good

1:26:51.360 --> 1:26:54.080
<v Speaker 5>at and doing my only things things. I thought I

1:26:54.280 --> 1:26:57.240
<v Speaker 5>was set up for that, but I'm not always back.

1:26:57.280 --> 1:26:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Now He's gonna tell her like, I know your address,

1:26:59.000 --> 1:26:59.959
<v Speaker 2>I know where you listen.

1:27:00.600 --> 1:27:02.440
<v Speaker 5>Like that's what I'm saying. Rue Rue not a civilian.

1:27:02.720 --> 1:27:08.680
<v Speaker 5>Maddie's a civilian. This is I don't think, because that's

1:27:08.680 --> 1:27:10.640
<v Speaker 5>what one, that's what's gonna run him, hide and get

1:27:10.680 --> 1:27:13.080
<v Speaker 5>his work. Like the police are already looking at Laurie.

1:27:13.640 --> 1:27:15.400
<v Speaker 5>It ain't too long for it to come knocking on

1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:19.120
<v Speaker 5>your door. So when you do stuff where Maddie disappears

1:27:19.160 --> 1:27:21.240
<v Speaker 5>and people that matter need her because she got a

1:27:21.360 --> 1:27:23.960
<v Speaker 5>job and they start calling and it roots back to you.

1:27:24.120 --> 1:27:26.040
<v Speaker 5>He thinking about stuff like that because he running the

1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:28.680
<v Speaker 5>Priminal enterprise, So he'll let her walk. Don't nobody give

1:27:28.680 --> 1:27:31.240
<v Speaker 5>a fuck about Rue if Rude disappeared, like who cares?

1:27:31.800 --> 1:27:33.000
<v Speaker 5>Like nobody will know bro.

1:27:33.520 --> 1:27:36.719
<v Speaker 4>So if anything, I think that he probably is gonna

1:27:36.720 --> 1:27:39.759
<v Speaker 4>look if anything that has to to threaten the situation

1:27:39.880 --> 1:27:44.240
<v Speaker 4>between Alamo and Maddie is Alamo likes money, and if

1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:46.840
<v Speaker 4>he sees money walking away with Maddie, then he's gonna

1:27:46.880 --> 1:27:49.240
<v Speaker 4>have a problem with it. But for everything else, I

1:27:49.360 --> 1:27:53.640
<v Speaker 4>completely agree with these fight. Uh last thing before we

1:27:53.720 --> 1:27:56.320
<v Speaker 4>get up out of here, the end of this episode.

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<v Speaker 8>Was it not?

1:27:56.960 --> 1:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Did it not? Was it not?

1:27:58.880 --> 1:28:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Goofy? Was it not like the building? This is like

1:28:02.800 --> 1:28:03.839
<v Speaker 2>some Looney Tune.

1:28:03.640 --> 1:28:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Ship back when the golf club and ship don't just.

1:28:17.240 --> 1:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>When the dirt.

1:28:20.240 --> 1:28:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, yeah we got past that, ye Yeah.

1:28:22.920 --> 1:28:27.600
<v Speaker 7>He's stupid like Louis to that's crazy. I did like

1:28:27.680 --> 1:28:29.720
<v Speaker 7>the build up though. I like the build up because

1:28:29.720 --> 1:28:31.720
<v Speaker 7>that that that gave me anxiety when it was doing

1:28:31.760 --> 1:28:35.800
<v Speaker 7>the Dirt Owner the barriers alive, like what the hell

1:28:35.880 --> 1:28:40.200
<v Speaker 7>is going on? But but nah, Yeah, but I'm also

1:28:40.360 --> 1:28:43.280
<v Speaker 7>with with what everybody was saying earlier. I think Spike

1:28:43.880 --> 1:28:45.560
<v Speaker 7>started it off when it was just like, yo, we

1:28:45.760 --> 1:28:47.960
<v Speaker 7>know you're not about to knock her head off, Like

1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:49.160
<v Speaker 7>we know that you're not about.

1:28:48.920 --> 1:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>To do that.

1:28:49.640 --> 1:28:53.280
<v Speaker 5>Like he's just not like that. She'll be back next episode.

1:28:53.600 --> 1:28:56.280
<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be something that happens. He's not going to

1:28:56.360 --> 1:28:58.439
<v Speaker 5>hit her with the thing, and she'll be back next episode.

1:29:01.160 --> 1:29:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, what would you do?

1:29:04.520 --> 1:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Tell us?

1:29:04.920 --> 1:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, what is she doing?

1:29:07.880 --> 1:29:10.600
<v Speaker 5>I would be shocked. That would be one of the

1:29:10.640 --> 1:29:12.320
<v Speaker 5>most shocking moments in TV history.

1:29:12.960 --> 1:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Come back.

1:29:15.280 --> 1:29:19.960
<v Speaker 3>You, I would be good.

1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:22.559
<v Speaker 5>They if they came back next week and she did,

1:29:22.800 --> 1:29:25.240
<v Speaker 5>I would be shot, and I will come back next week.

1:29:26.439 --> 1:29:28.160
<v Speaker 4>What if they come back the week after and they

1:29:28.200 --> 1:29:32.080
<v Speaker 4>show that she's dead? What if next episode? What if

1:29:32.120 --> 1:29:33.240
<v Speaker 4>the next episode.

1:29:32.880 --> 1:29:34.160
<v Speaker 2>She's in this ship?

1:29:34.360 --> 1:29:38.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it would make sense though if they're trying to

1:29:38.200 --> 1:29:41.559
<v Speaker 4>make this the potential last season. Go ahead and kill

1:29:41.640 --> 1:29:43.200
<v Speaker 4>then they don't want to do this ship no more.

1:29:43.720 --> 1:29:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead and kill her ass off, and then if

1:29:45.960 --> 1:29:49.160
<v Speaker 4>they do it next season, it'll be fucking Sydney, Sleepy

1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Maddie and Nate wo.

1:29:52.960 --> 1:29:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Or the Alamo Show and y'all gonna be here.

1:29:57.560 --> 1:29:59.200
<v Speaker 3>They will cancel the hell out of this show.

1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:00.799
<v Speaker 7>You heard.

1:30:02.880 --> 1:30:05.320
<v Speaker 4>On the show man if they killed what's his name

1:30:05.400 --> 1:30:08.040
<v Speaker 4>on the Last of Us or this this this Last

1:30:08.080 --> 1:30:10.439
<v Speaker 4>of Us. Yeah, if they killed Joel's ass, they can

1:30:10.520 --> 1:30:10.880
<v Speaker 4>kill him.

1:30:10.920 --> 1:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Dam Yeah that's what.

1:30:11.680 --> 1:30:12.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm going with.

1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>But what happened that, Yeah, that's true.

1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Right after I said it, I was like, that's.

1:30:21.800 --> 1:30:22.719
<v Speaker 5>Not going to happen.

1:30:23.000 --> 1:30:26.960
<v Speaker 4>But also also can't can't correct me if I'm wrong.

1:30:27.320 --> 1:30:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Seeing something that it's peak is still an amazing thing,

1:30:32.880 --> 1:30:33.519
<v Speaker 2>like because.

1:30:36.400 --> 1:30:49.320
<v Speaker 4>About everybody was like what I'm saying, what I'm saying,

1:30:50.280 --> 1:30:54.200
<v Speaker 4>we would we just like I'm saying, I think it's

1:30:54.880 --> 1:31:09.040
<v Speaker 4>like when spoiler alert, when when Joe got the Last

1:31:09.120 --> 1:31:11.040
<v Speaker 4>of Us, we was all shocked. That was a good

1:31:11.120 --> 1:31:14.320
<v Speaker 4>episode because we didn't expect that ship. Granted it went down,

1:31:16.560 --> 1:31:17.679
<v Speaker 4>so it's a good episode.

1:31:17.720 --> 1:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>That's all I say.

1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:21.840
<v Speaker 5>Killing the rule, that's that's not going to happen, bro,

1:31:22.040 --> 1:31:22.639
<v Speaker 5>So they.

1:31:22.600 --> 1:31:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Might do a last episode. I wouldn't be surprised.

1:31:24.880 --> 1:31:28.080
<v Speaker 5>If I would be shocked, And I don't know how

1:31:28.160 --> 1:31:29.800
<v Speaker 5>it feel about it if they killed her and showed

1:31:29.800 --> 1:31:31.519
<v Speaker 5>it in this episode. But Michael, they did, like what

1:31:31.680 --> 1:31:35.600
<v Speaker 5>you said, and we started this episode with Jules, Maddie

1:31:36.120 --> 1:31:38.720
<v Speaker 5>and Nate like we don't see jewels, and I mean

1:31:40.920 --> 1:31:43.960
<v Speaker 5>today to the end, would be pissed. I would be pissed.

1:31:46.360 --> 1:31:49.400
<v Speaker 6>I will say that even though I had the whole

1:31:49.439 --> 1:31:51.240
<v Speaker 6>idea like Okay, what are they doing because we know

1:31:51.320 --> 1:31:53.840
<v Speaker 6>we're not gonna kill Zida, I will say that it

1:31:53.960 --> 1:31:55.920
<v Speaker 6>made me think like if I was in her position,

1:31:56.120 --> 1:31:58.920
<v Speaker 6>but I continue to build that very like dig that

1:31:59.120 --> 1:32:02.520
<v Speaker 6>damn hole, like like do you do in that circumstance

1:32:02.640 --> 1:32:06.200
<v Speaker 6>because these these two big niggas and they just like

1:32:06.479 --> 1:32:08.439
<v Speaker 6>where can you go with guns?

1:32:09.280 --> 1:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>She could have took pissy pants ship. He's standing there

1:32:13.080 --> 1:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to look up. I saw you kiss your pants.

1:32:16.200 --> 1:32:18.280
<v Speaker 5>I know that was the only one she could get those.

1:32:18.439 --> 1:32:20.759
<v Speaker 5>You got my challenge and you got this other cycle

1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:23.400
<v Speaker 5>right here, like she got a long day, she.

1:32:23.400 --> 1:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Ain't getting out.

1:32:24.000 --> 1:32:30.479
<v Speaker 5>You got you got nothing gonna come over that mountain

1:32:30.680 --> 1:32:32.040
<v Speaker 5>like you're gonna run down that mountain.

1:32:32.040 --> 1:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>That's it, dig hole man. Only Rue would end up

1:32:36.040 --> 1:32:38.439
<v Speaker 1>in a situation like that. That's all I said.

1:32:38.439 --> 1:32:42.200
<v Speaker 5>When they came back to her head, I said, the same.

1:32:44.520 --> 1:32:48.040
<v Speaker 8>Man, only roule Bro. But I hated this ending. This

1:32:48.200 --> 1:32:51.320
<v Speaker 8>was some bullship, like what why are we doing this?

1:32:53.200 --> 1:32:56.560
<v Speaker 8>Like what this fool coming down swinging.

1:32:58.640 --> 1:32:59.320
<v Speaker 2>On a horse.

1:33:00.680 --> 1:33:03.519
<v Speaker 5>Man set up was good man bro because I didn't

1:33:03.560 --> 1:33:05.639
<v Speaker 5>know when he was getting ready to ride the horse,

1:33:05.640 --> 1:33:07.840
<v Speaker 5>and he put the little polos like all of that stuff.

1:33:07.880 --> 1:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Only that was good.

1:33:09.200 --> 1:33:10.960
<v Speaker 5>I was like, okay to set up for school once

1:33:11.000 --> 1:33:12.519
<v Speaker 5>I realized what he was doing. But then when we

1:33:12.560 --> 1:33:13.920
<v Speaker 5>got to the end, it was like, I know what's

1:33:14.200 --> 1:33:15.120
<v Speaker 5>He's not gonna kill her?

1:33:15.960 --> 1:33:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, I'm just saying there's a chance.

1:33:20.360 --> 1:33:22.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't I wouldn't bet money on it, but ride

1:33:22.920 --> 1:33:27.599
<v Speaker 4>if they took out, hey that's a bolt, that's a bold.

1:33:27.400 --> 1:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Tape they had crazy if they did something like that.

1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Any other thoughts on this episode.

1:33:34.320 --> 1:33:36.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean they played with her death before because like

1:33:36.760 --> 1:33:39.240
<v Speaker 6>the first season, we thought she overdose the end of

1:33:39.280 --> 1:33:40.120
<v Speaker 6>the season.

1:33:40.040 --> 1:33:42.320
<v Speaker 2>So I thought she did.

1:33:44.000 --> 1:33:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes this way this way, like this like to die

1:33:47.960 --> 1:33:50.280
<v Speaker 3>this way is crazy, That is what I'm saying.

1:33:51.800 --> 1:33:55.799
<v Speaker 7>Overdose all that, sure, but to get her head knocked

1:33:55.840 --> 1:33:58.120
<v Speaker 7>off by Alamo, that does not happening.

1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:00.479
<v Speaker 4>Ry.

1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:07.479
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I just don't see that.

1:34:08.720 --> 1:34:12.639
<v Speaker 5>I agree, bad episode.

1:34:12.720 --> 1:34:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Then it might be.

1:34:14.840 --> 1:34:16.400
<v Speaker 4>It might be because I think that was the only

1:34:16.640 --> 1:34:18.280
<v Speaker 4>this last part was the only part that I gave

1:34:18.360 --> 1:34:21.519
<v Speaker 4>about as we went to go through it.

1:34:21.720 --> 1:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>But those are our.

1:34:23.320 --> 1:34:26.160
<v Speaker 4>Thoughts on this episode of Euphoria. Please let us know

1:34:26.200 --> 1:34:28.800
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<v Speaker 4>coming up. I heard Spike dude doing some goofy ship,

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<v Speaker 4>so go check that out.

1:34:40.720 --> 1:34:44.400
<v Speaker 3>You want to check that out.

1:34:46.840 --> 1:34:49.639
<v Speaker 2>He's doing something creative. I heard he's doing. He's doing something.

1:34:52.360 --> 1:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Totally.

1:34:54.760 --> 1:34:56.519
<v Speaker 2>That's how I talk. They know what I'm trying to say.

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