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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this government shutdown. Donald Trump agreed to

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Speaker 1: meet with House Minority Leader Keen Jeffries and also the

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Speaker 1: Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer today to discuss this government

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Speaker 1: shut down. The meeting comes as Congress faces this partial

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Speaker 1: government shut down. The deadline is tomorrow at eleven fifty

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Speaker 1: nine pm. By the way, tomorrow big day in Washington,

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Speaker 2: It's going on tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I have Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War, calling all the

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Speaker 1: generals back, and then you also have this potential government

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Speaker 1: shut down looming. So Jeffries and Schumer, they stated that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are willing to negotiate anywhere, at any time, anywhere, anytime.

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Speaker 2: Here's my prediction. The government is going to shut down. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's not going to be some last minute whatever that's

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Speaker 2: going to delay it. The government's going to shut down.

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Speaker 2: And really because mostly Trump wants to shut the government down,

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Speaker 2: because he came out over the weekend and said, look,

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Speaker 2: you know, we shut the government down, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: fire thousands and thousands of federal employees. That's what he

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Speaker 2: tried to do under Doge with Elon Musk, and most

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Speaker 2: courts blocked him. From doing that, So the Democrats have

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Speaker 2: no leverage. They're like, hey, you don't do what we want,

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Speaker 2: We're going to shut the government down. And Trump is

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Speaker 2: sitting there going, okay, I dare you. And then on

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Speaker 2: the other side here, because here's the problem, Schumer and Jeffries.

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Speaker 2: Most of the pressure they're getting are from the ultra

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Speaker 2: left progressives that are coming at them and saying, you

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Speaker 2: must stand up for Trump, and if that means shutting

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Speaker 2: the government down, that's what we've got to do. And

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Speaker 2: so they're getting a lot of pressure not to bend

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Speaker 2: to Trump's will either, and they're trying to Trump is

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Speaker 2: proposing a clean CR continuing resolution. Sure, absolutely nothing tied

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Speaker 2: to it. Let's just keep the government funding the way

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Speaker 2: we've been doing it. The Democrats are trying to add

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Speaker 2: in all these subsidies for Obamacare and all these other

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Speaker 2: freebies and legalized vote buying schemes, and because that's what

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Speaker 2: their progressive left wants them to do. So really, I

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Speaker 2: don't see any other option here than the fact of

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Speaker 2: the matter is government going to shut.

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Speaker 1: Down to moon So Republicans control both chambers of Congress,

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Speaker 1: all the House is on recess right now, Senate passage

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Speaker 1: requires sixty votes, meaning that the Democrats they're going to

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Speaker 1: need a couple of them to go along with what

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Speaker 1: the Republicans want. But this is all about healthcare programs

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Speaker 1: and continuing on with Obamacare.

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Speaker 2: And look, none of the Democrats are going to buck

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Speaker 2: the trend and vote against the way Schumer wants them

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Speaker 2: to vote. He keeps his Democrats in line. They may

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Speaker 2: be mad at him for a lot of stuff, but

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Speaker 2: I just don't see what they would need. What nine

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Speaker 2: eight or nine eight eight democrats to cross over and

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Speaker 2: vote with Republicans on that. There's no way they're getting

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Speaker 2: eight Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So there could be some federal workers across agencies

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Speaker 1: like Nassau. The National Park Service could get furloughed. Federal

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Speaker 1: courts may close, Grants and services for small businesses could

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Speaker 1: be delayed, But okay, how long is it going to last?

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Speaker 1: You know, Over the past fifty years, there have been

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Speaker 1: twenty one different federal shutdowns.

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Speaker 2: That's one. It's almost one every other year.

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Speaker 1: Between nineteen seventy six and nineteen ninety there were eleven shutdowns,

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Speaker 1: and they ranged from one day to seventeen days. Between

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Speaker 1: ninety five and ninety six, under Clinton there were shutdowns.

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Speaker 1: They lasted five days and then twenty one days. Obama

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Speaker 1: had a shut down that lasted seventeen days. In twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen Trump's first term, there were two, no, three three.

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Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen there were two shutdowns. One lasted three days,

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Speaker 1: another lasted a couple hours, and then in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: there was the thirty five day shutdown.

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Speaker 2: And that's the record. Trump holds the record for being

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Speaker 2: president under the longest government shutdown, all right, three in

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Speaker 2: his first in his first term.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's listen to some talking heads. You had John Thune.

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Speaker 1: He was on with Kristen Welker on NBC News, and

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Speaker 1: he's blaming the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the big battle over government

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Speaker 3: funding is two days away. Leader, As you know, from

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Speaker 3: a potential government shutdown. The President did cancel a planned

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Speaker 3: meeting with Democratic leaders. The House doesn't plan to be

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Speaker 3: in session until after the shutdown deadline. Is the government

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Speaker 3: going to shut down this week? Leader Thoon?

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Speaker 4: Totally up to the Democrats. The ball is in their court.

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Speaker 4: There is a bill sitting at the desk in the

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Speaker 4: Senate right now. We could pick it up today and

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Speaker 4: pass it that has been passed by the House that

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Speaker 4: will be signed in a law by the President to

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Speaker 4: keep the government open. So this decision, in my judgment

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Speaker 4: at this point in time, is up to a handful

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Speaker 4: the majority over the last four years and President Biden

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Speaker 4: was in the White House, Republicans helped Democrats do thirteen

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Speaker 4: different times we did continuing resolutions in the Democrat majority

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Speaker 4: and in every case they passed. And what the Democrats

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Speaker 4: have done here is take the federal government as a hostage,

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Speaker 4: and for that matter that by extension, the American people

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Speaker 4: to try and get a whole laundry list of things

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Speaker 4: that they want. The special interest groups on the far

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Speaker 4: left are pushing them to accomplish and using a seven

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Speaker 4: week funding resolution, which is designed to give us time

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Speaker 4: to do the normal appropriations process, they're using this hostage

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Speaker 4: to try and get all these other things done. So

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Speaker 4: very straightforward argument in my mind, It's simple.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So he pointed out that there's already that House

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Speaker 1: pass CR continuing resolution at the Senate desk that could

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Speaker 1: be taken up and passed immediately. Well, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: that continuing resolution. Here's the speaker, Mike Johnson. He's saying

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Speaker 1: it's clean. Well.

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Speaker 5: I had a long talk with the President yesterday, Jake,

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Speaker 5: and you know, he feels the same way that I

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Speaker 5: do about this. He's always open to discussion, but he

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Speaker 5: wants to operate in good faith. So he decided to

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Speaker 5: bring us all in. He wants to talk with Chuck

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Speaker 5: Schumer and how came Jefferies and just try to convince

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Speaker 5: them to follow common sense and do what's right by

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Speaker 5: the American people. Jake, It's important to point out the

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Speaker 5: only thing we are trying to do is buy a

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Speaker 5: little time. You know, the appropriators in both parties have

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Speaker 5: been working very diligently over the last many weeks to

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Speaker 5: work through the appropriations process. As you know, the law

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Speaker 5: requires us to pass twelve separate appropriations bills and to

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Speaker 5: be good stewards of American taxpayers dollars. But that hasn't happened.

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Speaker 5: It usually doesn't happen in Washington. Everything gets pushed to

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Speaker 5: the end of the year, right before Christmas, and there's

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Speaker 5: a giant omnibus spending bill. Since I became speaker. I've

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Speaker 5: been trying to force back the muscle memory to force

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Speaker 5: Congress to do its work, and we're doing it. Jake,

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Speaker 5: I'm delighted to tell you in a bipartisan fashion. The

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Speaker 5: appropriators have worked through twelve separate appropriations bills in the

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Speaker 5: House committee, three are passed off the floor in the House,

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Speaker 5: three passed off the Senate floor. Those bills don't match

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Speaker 5: working as they're supposed to do for the first time

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Speaker 5: since twenty nineteen. But here's the problem. We run out

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Speaker 5: of clock because the end of the September thirtieth is

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Speaker 5: the end of the fiscal So what we did was

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Speaker 5: a simple, clean continuing resolution is twenty four pages in length.

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Speaker 5: All it does is keep the government open so appropriators

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Speaker 5: can continue to do this work together bipartisan. Chuck Schimmer

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Speaker 5: came back with a long laundry list of partisan demands

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Speaker 5: that don't fit into this process, and he's going to

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Speaker 5: try to shut the government down. The President wants to

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Speaker 5: talk with him about that and say please don't do that.

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Speaker 1: So continuing resolutions, they seem to be Washington's favorite band

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Speaker 1: aid it's always temporary, and what it does, it just

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Speaker 1: kicks the can down the road for later.

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Speaker 2: Nobody loves to kick the can down the road more

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Speaker 2: than politicians, so yeah, they love continuing resolutions. Mike Johnson

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Speaker 2: laid it out pretty cleanly there. Look, this is why

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Speaker 2: the House is on recess this week because they've already

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Speaker 2: passed their clean resolution, so all the Senate has to

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Speaker 2: do and pick it up. But the Senate never wants

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Speaker 2: to do exactly what the House does. And of course

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Speaker 2: Trump wants a government shutdown so he can fire government employees.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats want a government shutdown so that they can

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Speaker 2: prove that they're sticking up and fighting back to Trump.

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Speaker 2: This is why I just don't see any scenario that

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Speaker 2: keeps the government running. There's going to be a shutdown tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Classic partisan theater in my opinion, But in this case,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like the Republicans are winning the argument, at least.

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Speaker 1: On your Sunday morning talk shows, last audio clip for you,

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Speaker 1: here's jd Vance.

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Speaker 6: This government shutdown issue looming next week. How do you

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Speaker 6: see this and are you opposed to a shutdown or

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Speaker 6: do you think there would be advantages to that?

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Speaker 7: Potentially well, look, we don't want to shut down the government, Martha,

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Speaker 7: but it's really up to the Democrats. Under our system,

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Speaker 7: you need sixty Senate Democrats to vote for the clean

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Speaker 7: continuing resolution that the President and House Republicans have put forward.

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Speaker 7: I think it's preposterous, Martha. I think the American people

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Speaker 7: really should pay attention to the fact that Democrats are

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Speaker 7: threatening to shut down the entire government because they want

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Speaker 7: to give hundreds of billions of dollars of healthcare benefits

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Speaker 7: to a legal aliens. I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 7: I've never seen a political party actually advertising the fact

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Speaker 7: It's such a stark contrast between Republicans who are trying

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Speaker 7: to put the interest of the American people first and Democrats, who,

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Speaker 7: I think, which want to take money from the American

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Speaker 7: people to give benefits to illegal aliens. We don't want

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Speaker 7: to shut down the government, but if Democrats refuse to

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Speaker 7: just pass this clean continuing resolution, that's exactly what's going

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Speaker 7: bear the responsibility for it.

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Speaker 1: I believe that that's the winning talking point for the Republicans,

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Speaker 1: the healthcare for the illegal immigrants. But approximately fourteen percent

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Speaker 1: of the federal budget is non defense discretionary spending. So

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Speaker 1: we're talking between six hundred and seventy five thousand employees

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Speaker 1: would be furloughed. And you know, A JD. Van said,

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Speaker 1: essential area of the government. There are essential workers and

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Speaker 1: military personnel that will continue on being employed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll get your Social Security check, Medicare will still

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Speaker 2: continue to function and operate. We saw this under all

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Speaker 2: the government shutdowns in the last ten or twenty years.

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Speaker 2: You know what what makes the most headlines is usually

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Speaker 2: the national parks close, and then that usually makes big headlines.

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Speaker 2: But everything is going to be fine. Here is what

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Speaker 2: is going to happen. It will shut down, It'll probably

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Speaker 2: be pretty quick, and the Dems will likely cave and

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Speaker 2: everybody gets what they want. Trump gets to continue on

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Speaker 2: with the continuing clean you know, a clean, continuing resolution.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats shut it down for a few days, and

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Speaker 2: that way they can go back to their base and say,

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Speaker 2: look at us, we fought Trump and we you know,

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Speaker 2: played hard and tough. And we're not gonna take this

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Speaker 2: lying down. But they really have a terrible argument on this,

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Speaker 2: and so they're not gonna they're not gonna let it

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