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Speaker 1: Pretty popular TikTok video that goes around of different people

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Speaker 1: trying to sing this song. We should get Brian Nubert.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the that would make five non blonds

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Speaker 1: that's the big question about Purdue of what's going on?

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Speaker 1: And I guess Brian Nubert who joins us now, by

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Speaker 1: the way on the Jaba House Colebrew Coffee guest Line,

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Speaker 1: a regular and welcome the guest to the program from

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Speaker 1: Golden Black Brian. Reality is it's a sign of how

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Speaker 1: good a team is when they win games and you

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Speaker 1: still wonder what it is that's going wrong with them.

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Speaker 1: But struggled last night in Evanston against Northwestern. Sometimes teams

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Speaker 1: get plucky and you say, hey, you know what, kudos

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Speaker 1: to the opponent. Or was this another example of Purdue

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Speaker 2: How did that go from starship to four non blonde Gake,

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Speaker 2: I thought we had a thing.

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Speaker 1: You know what, you're right, You're actually right. That's on Eddie, though,

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Speaker 1: Eddie came up with what's going on? So you got

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Speaker 2: Come on, ed he get in the game.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, Purdue.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big believer that there's no such thing as

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Speaker 2: a bad road win in the Big Ten. But I

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Speaker 2: think that, you know, Purdue turned the ball over too

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Speaker 2: much in the first half. I think Northwestern made some

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Speaker 2: really tough shots. I think Nick Martinelli was a tough

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Speaker 2: matchup for Purdue, as he is for a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: And I think that you know, Purdue didn't play its

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Speaker 2: minute to goo that put Northwestern back ahead and immediately

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Speaker 2: respond to it, I thought made this game more of

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Speaker 2: a positive than the alternative. I think where Purdue was

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Speaker 2: in terms of having lost six of its last eleven

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Speaker 2: needed any way that could get it, and you know,

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Speaker 2: to go on the road and not play your best

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Speaker 2: game and beat somebody else on their your day after

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Speaker 2: they won three games in a row. Northwestern's not a

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Speaker 2: great team, obviously, but they won three games in a

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Speaker 2: row at least, including that pretty impressive win at IU

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Speaker 2: where they rallied in the last couple of minutes to

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Speaker 2: take that one. I thought it was more of a

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Speaker 2: positive for Purdue than it was a sign of ongoing troubles.

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Speaker 3: But Purdue needed it bad.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny, Brian, because it was one of those

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Speaker 1: games where unfortunately at this point, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: you know, it was more about avoiding a really bad loss,

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Speaker 1: your point, you know, when you got to find ways,

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Speaker 1: good teams find ways, And I thought last night CJ.

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Speaker 1: Cox was brilliant for them and on numerous possessions, especially

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Speaker 1: late in possessions, hit big shots for them, and that's

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Speaker 1: not the first time that he has done that. Is

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Speaker 1: this a guy finding more confidence or is this a

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Speaker 1: in doing more to facilitate getting him those looks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think predw. I think Predu read the room

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Speaker 2: pretty well. They were Northwestern was selling out to get

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Speaker 2: and taking roll, and they were leaving CJ. Cox in

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Speaker 3: In the corner. And to CJ.

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Speaker 2: Cox's credit, he made the shots. That was the calculation

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Speaker 2: to CJ. Cox's credit, he burned it. And to produce credit,

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Speaker 2: they made the simple place to get the ball where

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Speaker 2: it needed to be. And and I can't say enough

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Speaker 2: about what CJ. Cox did. This is a guy who

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Speaker 2: the time, I think, and has really really become a

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Speaker 2: certain types of help. And yes, PJ. Coxs has all

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Speaker 2: the confidence in the world right now and he should, you.

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Speaker 1: Know the Brian last night and watching the game on

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Speaker 1: the Big ten network. One of the things I noticed,

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Speaker 1: me think that is it possible? This song is fitting

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Purdue in Chicago right here, it

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Speaker 1: built this city right see?

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Speaker 3: Is that better? Brian?

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Speaker 2: There you go, This is I feel home now. I'm

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Speaker 2: officially a guest on your show.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: We bring the starship in because this song. Nothing bangs

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Speaker 1: like this song. We know that much. If you look

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Speaker 1: at the NCAA tournament, Brian, and let's just assume for

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Speaker 1: the sake of discussion that Purdue I think they go

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Speaker 1: that would be their kryptonite is the team that does what.

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Speaker 2: Stretch bags can be problematic. So if it's somebody who's

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Speaker 2: you know Purdue has to would have to be really

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Speaker 3: I think when Purdue is you.

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Speaker 2: Know, on the same page defensively, which for I still

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Speaker 2: don't really understand why that hasn't been a consistent reality

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Speaker 2: they can beat anybody. Maybe not anybody right now, but

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Speaker 2: they've lost to you this year. So I think it's

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Speaker 2: more about Purdue than anybody. Obviously, when you get the

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Speaker 2: ANSABA tournament, matchups really matter. When you don't have the

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Speaker 2: inherent advantages of being a one seed or a two seed,

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Speaker 2: matchups matter even more. But I think that really dominant

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Speaker 2: think Purdue is a much better team when Oscar Cluff

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Speaker 1: I think are there defensive looks that Braden Smith has

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything anyone can do that Braden

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Speaker 2: Smith hasn't seen at this point in his career. What

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Speaker 2: Know, this is a guy chasing an NCAA all the

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Speaker 3: Do to win that game.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's not an easy thing to do

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Speaker 2: when you're as great a player as Braden Smith is,

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Speaker 2: is to kind of set your personal playmaking abilities aside

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Speaker 3: Else do the work.

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Speaker 2: But that's what Northwestern chose to make him do, and

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Speaker 2: obviously it wasn't quite good enough for them.

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Speaker 1: Brian Nuberg the guest of course from Goldenblack dot com.

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Speaker 1: He is on the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line,

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Speaker 1: and I would are you already back from Chicago, Brian?

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Speaker 1: Are you on the road as we speak? And if so,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're going hands free.

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Speaker 2: I am going hands free, and I'm on that joyous

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Speaker 2: corridor on I ninety four going past Chicago State where

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Speaker 2: everything bottles, everything bottlenecks right before we get the fifty

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've noticed this, Brian, but a

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Speaker 1: this weekend, that's the perfect time to check the batteries

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Speaker 1: in your smoke detector. Right in the Chicago Land area,

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Speaker 1: that's the time of year where they transition all the

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Speaker 1: billboards from Brian urlock or hair loss to fireworks. So

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Speaker 1: have they done that the changeover happened.

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Speaker 3: Yet, I haven't noticed. There's a lot of fog.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really looking at the I'm not really looking

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Speaker 2: at the billboards, I gotta say, but I'm just happy

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Speaker 2: that anytime you make a road trip this time of

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Speaker 2: ice on the highway.

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Speaker 1: It's correct.

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Speaker 3: It's a win.

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Speaker 2: I've had good luck so far this Big Ten season,

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Speaker 2: and I guess I got through it because this was

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Speaker 2: Ten Tournament. So we will hope that there's no blizzard

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Speaker 1: All right, Brian, we appreciate it and travel safe, all right, anytime, Jakes.

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Speaker 1: All right, Brian Nuber joining us on the program. IndyCar

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Speaker 1: by Only Bulls IndyCar this weekend in Phoenix. When Alex Polo,

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Speaker 1: Now, Davy, let's get to this this weekend. Because IndyCar

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Speaker 5: down where we toiled a lot of it off. So

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Speaker 5: it's going to be interesting. Is so definitely going to

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Speaker 5: be a challenge. But the good news is this for us,

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Speaker 5: we race Saturday afternoon, so we're before the Incinity race,

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Speaker 5: We're before the NASCAR Cup race, so majority that rubber

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Speaker 5: that's gonna get laid down will be after us actually,

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Speaker 5: So I think that once we get our guardies on

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Speaker 5: track to get a balance to the car. Yes, there

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Speaker 5: will be some in between practices with those other divisions,

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Speaker 5: but I don't think it's gonna be bigger of a

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Speaker 5: play as we thought it.

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Speaker 3: Was going to be once I've seen this schedule.

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Speaker 1: Davy will be on the call along with Mark James

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Speaker 1: in the booth for the race in Phoenix coming up

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Speaker 1: this weekend, and you can hear it, of course right

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Speaker 1: here on this radio station for Indy Car. A busy,

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Speaker 1: busy day, two thirty in the afternoon, by the way,

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Speaker 1: will be the race on Saturday coming up from Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: Davey appreciate the time as.

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Speaker 5: Always, Thanks Sake, appreciate it out.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Burris is one of those, by the way, joins

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Speaker 1: us now on the program. He was an All American

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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame under Dow Holtz. His long career in

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Speaker 1: football brought him to Indianapolis and he joins on the

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Speaker 1: Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line. Jeff, First off, I

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Speaker 1: know you got a hectic schedule today. I certainly appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time and what is not the most you know,

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Speaker 1: happiest of circumstances.

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Speaker 3: But how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well, Jake and my apologies for being a

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Speaker 4: lowe behind and thank you so much for having.

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Speaker 1: Me well, and I appreciate that and I understand it,

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Speaker 1: and I just wanted to give you, Jeff, the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to share. You know, I think we all know Lou

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Speaker 1: Holtz the coach. We can see the wins and losses.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask you this, What was your

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Speaker 1: first encounter with him when you were a player living

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Speaker 1: in South Carolina and Notre Dame and Lou Holtz come calling.

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Speaker 1: What was it about Lou Holtz that immediately jumped out?

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Speaker 4: Well, my first my first encounter was him visiting, visiting, well,

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Speaker 4: obviously having official visits, you have a chance to really

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Speaker 4: you go and you're on your official visits, you sit

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Speaker 4: down and talk to him. But my post my post

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Speaker 4: official visit, him coming to my home and it was

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Speaker 4: basically him walking in that door and having the conversation

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Speaker 4: and being the man he is and was and all

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Speaker 4: the above. And I mean, there was no way I

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Speaker 4: wasn't going to know today. But when my mom sat

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Speaker 4: down and he interacted with her and we had the conversation,

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Speaker 4: just the.

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Speaker 3: I can't put it.

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Speaker 4: In the words, how much one he means to me,

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Speaker 4: he's molded me into the man I am today and

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Speaker 4: just helped me just was able to navigate through life

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Speaker 4: through difficult times whether and kept things in perspective always.

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Speaker 3: But that first that first.

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Speaker 4: Meeting of him being able to meet my mom was

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Speaker 4: the most important thing, because she didn't go my official visit.

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Speaker 4: But when he walked into my to our house and

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Speaker 4: sat down on the couch and.

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Speaker 3: Said basically said to her, I promise.

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Speaker 4: You, I'll take care of your son, and and he

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Speaker 4: meant every single word, and that changed her life, and

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Speaker 4: that changed mind and and I could I can't say

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Speaker 4: what that means to the Vartum, it means to me

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Speaker 4: and my family and just the Holt's family as a whole,

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Speaker 4: just got in.

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Speaker 3: Directed my life to to who I am.

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Speaker 1: To say, what point in your life, Jeff Burris, did

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Speaker 1: you finally realized that he had upheld his end of

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Speaker 1: the bargain on looking after you?

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Speaker 4: You know, that's that's an interesting question. So he and

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Speaker 4: I had some a lot of memorable moments in my

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Speaker 4: life and couple at Notre Dame that most people didn't realize,

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Speaker 4: and it was personal conversations with he and I And

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Speaker 4: this is how I knew I was involved with someone

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Speaker 4: that truly cared about me and about the young man.

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Speaker 4: So we were going into a game and we're literally

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Speaker 4: I we hadn't talked about it the week before anything.

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Speaker 4: We're going into a game and.

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Speaker 3: He came up to me. He's like, okay, so here's the.

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Speaker 4: Deal, says, you've scored a touchdown this way, this way,

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Speaker 4: this way, this way.

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Speaker 3: All right? So I rushing catching.

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Speaker 4: And so we went into that game and he said,

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Speaker 4: here's what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you back at the starting.

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Speaker 4: Starting kick returner today because I can only control so

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Speaker 4: many of those ways. Now it's up to you to

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Speaker 4: go out and go perform and do what you're capable

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Speaker 4: of doing. So as a coach, how many how many

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Speaker 4: coaches really care enough about that person and that player

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Speaker 4: to sit there and try to put him in every

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Speaker 4: possible scenario. Because he wanted me to be a have

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Speaker 4: legacy at Notre Dame. It wasn't about and all I

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Speaker 4: was thinking about is doesn't make sure we win the game.

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Speaker 4: But he cares so much about me as a person

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Speaker 4: because he wanted me to have a shrewd legacy at

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Speaker 4: the university's Notre Dame, and that's one we were sitting

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Speaker 4: at BYU, and I can give you the exact time.

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Speaker 4: We're out before the game and we're throwing footballs around

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Speaker 4: and he comes over to me. He's like, man, I

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Speaker 4: should have Major quarterback. Now I can't throw it out,

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Speaker 4: but he's in his mind, he's like, I should.

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Speaker 3: Have Major a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But that's the type of relationship he and I had that,

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Speaker 4: you know, he he impacted it in so many ways

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Speaker 4: that I just don't have enough words to explain.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, one of the things that I'd mentioned, and maybe

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Speaker 1: I was over analytical, but I wanted you to add

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Speaker 1: to this, Jeff burst, My guest, Lou Holtz did have

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Speaker 1: one time in his career with the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: where he failed. He did not have a good tenure

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Speaker 1: in New York, and he left New York and he

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Speaker 1: got back into college and had success everywhere he went.

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Speaker 1: Did he ever talk about or was there in importance

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Speaker 1: in seeing the value in learning and improving from failure.

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Speaker 3: He always talked about that.

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Speaker 4: He talked to us about the situation we and we

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Speaker 4: kind of do in his mind, he didn't necessarily fail.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't for him. It wasn't a good thing. There's

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Speaker 4: there's things in life there's just not good fits for us.

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Speaker 4: And what he is is what he is is beyond

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Speaker 4: the motivational aspect of it.

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Speaker 3: He's a leader of men.

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Speaker 4: And yes, being at the New York Jets would have

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Speaker 4: been you know, obviously whatever we want to say, what

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Speaker 4: is the minute is legacy. No, I don't think he

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Speaker 4: needed it. He is or he is, and I I

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Speaker 4: love him for for for that. But that moment gave

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Speaker 4: him an opportunity to teach us no matter what the

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Speaker 4: situation is, whether whatever situation you were, he taught us

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Speaker 4: about life and he talked about it. And and yes

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Speaker 4: that did did he want to be successful without a doubt.

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Speaker 4: Did it bother him, Yes they did, But for for

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Speaker 4: for him, that gave him a coaching moment for us

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Speaker 4: as players to understand that, no matter what life has

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Speaker 4: to offer, if you tie your shoes, you wake up

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Speaker 4: every morning and you go commit to whatever you want

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Speaker 4: to do, and you've got to make sure that whatever

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Speaker 4: the commitment you make, that it's the right one for you.

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Speaker 4: And and that's what we learned from them from from

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Speaker 4: that situation and that just wasn't in the right situation

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Speaker 4: for him at the time.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, I know that your coaching career has been vast.

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Speaker 1: You've been to a number of different places, most recently

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. They've had obviously a coaching change there.

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Speaker 1: My apologies for asking this, are you still involved in

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Speaker 1: coaching or still looking to extend that? And my apologies

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Speaker 1: for not knowing that answer.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no worries right now, Jake, Right now we

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Speaker 4: were I'm in Oklahoma with my wife Lisa. We have

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Speaker 4: opened a brain and imaging center and we're focused on

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Speaker 4: the wellness of young young student athletes for patients and

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Speaker 4: all we and we are centers is a true it's

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Speaker 4: a true diagnosis center that allows, uh, you have some

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Speaker 4: awareness of what's going on pre well. Most people don't

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Speaker 4: understand there's a baseline. What most people do know, but

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Speaker 4: when concussions are so involved in what we're doing nowadays,

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Speaker 4: and most people don't want.

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Speaker 3: To have a baseline, and.

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Speaker 4: Our imaging center allows you to have a baseline testing

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Speaker 4: before you go through all this and not just football,

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Speaker 4: it's just cheerleading, any sport or car accidents. But it

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Speaker 4: allows us to have a format to give back to

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Speaker 4: those that suffer from spinal injuries, brain injuries and things

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Speaker 4: that we take for granted, but we still allows us

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Speaker 4: to move forward in life.

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like you are in fact looking out

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Speaker 1: for other people's sons and daughters and that Jeff Burris

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Speaker 1: is known as legacy and a great tribute to Low Holtz.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time today and squeezing us in. I

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Speaker 1: know you've got a very busy schedule, Jeff, appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time and the perspective on somebody that was very close

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you giving me a car that allow me

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Speaker 4: to be a part of it.

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Speaker 3: Jake, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Burs joining us on the Java House Cold Brew

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Speaker 1: Coffee guest line