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Speaker 1: Lie from the heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: For my black brothers and sisters in the room, be reminded.

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Speaker 2: They might not always start with us, but they will

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Speaker 2: come home and in with us.

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Speaker 3: We know that. Malcolm X warned.

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Speaker 2: Us that if you're not careful, the newspapers will have

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Speaker 2: you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving

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Speaker 2: the people who are doing the oppressing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's no way to start a show, Tony.

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Speaker 4: You can't start a show with the mayor of Baltimore

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Speaker 4: making the claim that the Trump administration is coming for

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Speaker 4: black Americans. You know, I should have warned you our

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Speaker 4: producer Landon maybe we need the finger on the dump button.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. This just came across the transom.

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Speaker 2: Now more than ever, we have to know what we

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Speaker 2: stand for and who we stand with. Shenanda Hayes, there

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Speaker 2: is no plan to fifty. You are either with us

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Speaker 5: Oh, there's a lot of that kind of talk, a

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Speaker 5: lot of that kind of you're with us, you're against

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Speaker 5: us talk, which you know politically I could at least understand.

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Speaker 5: It's in any ways a turn of phrase.

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Speaker 4: The problem is with the political left, which has given

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Speaker 4: up the very concept of being the democratic party. They mean,

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Speaker 4: you're with us, or we start shooting. You disagree with us,

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Speaker 4: and we start shooting. If you want to argue that

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Speaker 4: the political right is violent, you can go right ahead.

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Speaker 4: But I argue that the political left is institutionalized within

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Speaker 4: the party. The violence they've internalized and institutionalized, certainly the

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Speaker 4: anti Semitism. This is who they are, and they're telling

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Speaker 4: you in every single way that not only is the

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Speaker 4: violence good, not only is the violence acceptable, the violence

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Speaker 4: is commendable, and the violence shall be lauded and glorified.

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Speaker 4: And we've got enough data points to prove that true.

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Speaker 6: Now just add on the mayor here.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, what are you doing? Everybody?

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Speaker 4: Eight three three I got Tony eight three three four

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Speaker 3: Tony that's how you get to be a part of the.

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Speaker 4: Program also a live streament on the youtubes YouTube dot

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Speaker 4: com Slash Tony. Katz you should go be a part

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Speaker 4: of that, immediately if not. Sooner President trump In South

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Speaker 4: korea making trade. Deals the trip so, FAR i think

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Speaker 6: Seen as a.

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Speaker 3: SUCCESS i. Don't i'm not quite sure how else to view.

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Speaker 4: It is it sound That trumpet's the greatest thing that ever?

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Speaker 3: Happened, No i'm. Not i'm not getting that.

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Speaker 4: Vibe as with all of these trade, deals like sometimes

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Speaker 4: they just come across as as trade agreements write. Frameworks

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Speaker 4: framework is, nice framework is always. Nice but what you

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Speaker 4: need is money changing. Hands and until we see that

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Speaker 4: in any of these trade, deals all we have is,

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Speaker 4: well could be an. Opportunity, well opportunity is better than,

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Speaker 4: not but opportunity is not cash in the hand of

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Speaker 4: farmers or ranchers or in the hands Of american.

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Speaker 3: Business it's a step in the right.

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Speaker 4: Direction but also this entire, trip every part of this,

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Speaker 4: trip was about building up to the big, dog which

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Speaker 4: is the conversation With. China so when you hear That

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Speaker 4: President trump has created some kind of trade deal With South, korea.

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Speaker 6: Well, good happy to see.

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Speaker 4: It as is, reported this is about three hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty billion dollars that would be invested in THE us.

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Speaker 3: ECONOMY a lot of love in the room From South.

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Speaker 4: Korea South, korea of, course going through its own political

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Speaker 4: scandals where you had a a the president of the,

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Speaker 4: country saying the press is against, us so we're going

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Speaker 4: to engage the level of martial law and we're not

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Speaker 4: going to have any votes in our in our. Government

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Speaker 4: here and the other side of the all, said or

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Speaker 4: actually say the entirety of of THE i don't, know

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Speaker 4: then call it a general. Assembly they, said you're, nuts

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Speaker 4: get back to voting, everybody and then, yeah this guy

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Speaker 4: was taken out of. Power so they have been through a.

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Speaker 4: Ringer the countries are going to, keep according to this,

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Speaker 4: framework reciprocal tariffs at fifteen, percent as they have Since.

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Speaker 4: August they've agreed to apply that rate to automobiles and auto. Parts,

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Speaker 4: now if You're South, korea That's, kia, kids That's, hyundai.

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Speaker 4: Everywhere now they might, say, well actually this is better

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Speaker 4: because we had a twenty five percent. Tariff now we're

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Speaker 4: gonna have a fifteen percent reciprocal tariff on the. Cars

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Speaker 4: this PUTS us in line With japan and With. Europe

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Speaker 4: this is good. News see that good news with. Tariffs,

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Speaker 4: Yeah i'm still opposed to the. CONCEPT i had a

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Speaker 4: whole conversation, late late late last night discussing this. Subject

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Speaker 4: things were so late THAT i actually was, like, Yeah

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Speaker 4: i'm not Gonna i'm not gonna make the morning. SHOW

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Speaker 4: i didn't do my morning show this morning BECAUSE i

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Speaker 4: was in the middle of these things and, LIKE i

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Speaker 4: GOTTA i gotta take advantage of some. Opportunities some of

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Speaker 4: it was social and some of it, was you, know

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Speaker 4: deep into the. Weeds you still can't sell me on.

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Speaker 4: Tariffs Who President trump wants to sell everybody in their

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Speaker 4: mother that tariffs are are are such an important part

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Speaker 4: of what we're, doing and they, are, indeed in his,

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Speaker 4: view a big part of national. Security, now he was

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Speaker 4: a Board Air force one when he said. IT i

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Speaker 4: haven't had a chance to check how clean this audio.

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Speaker 7: Is on this other.

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Speaker 1: Border, padia president Of, mexico said, No.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna listen to anything About mexico right.

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Speaker 4: NOW i will, see you know, what let's hear what

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Speaker 4: they have to say About mexico and the tariff truth

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Speaker 4: with THE us has been extended for talking to about

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Speaker 4: how long are you willing to wait for that to play?

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Speaker 7: Out, WELL i like the extension With mexico because you,

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Speaker 7: know we're doing very well with that. Extension we get

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Speaker 7: a lot of, tariffs they're paying a lot of, money

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Speaker 7: as you, know a lot of carcover is it moving

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Speaker 7: From mexico back into The United. States state took our

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Speaker 7: car companies a long time, ago thirty years ago and open.

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Speaker 7: Work we lost about fifty seven percent of our motormobile

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Speaker 7: manufacturing over the. Decades and it's all coming back because the.

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Speaker 7: Tariffs it's all coming. Back and the tariffs aren't really

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Speaker 7: national security as much as anything. Else it's national security

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Speaker 4: Ways but a year, ago it seems we made an

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Speaker 4: me we made an argument that the president would be

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Speaker 4: far better off if you would explain in national security terms.

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Speaker 4: Tariffs here's what it. Means, yes it means you will pay,

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Speaker 4: more and here is why it creates a value for us.

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Speaker 4: Overall here's how it increases our negotiating. Position and here

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Speaker 4: is how it Betters american. Lives if the argument is

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Speaker 3: Protectionism i'm not. Down if we want to argue.

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Speaker 4: That tariffs give us a better negotiating, Position, okay that's a.

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Speaker 4: Tactic and we take a look At South korea and we, say,

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Speaker 4: well we brought auto tariffs On South korea from twenty

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Speaker 3: Percent they're now going to invest in fifty billion dollars.

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Speaker 4: Into The United. STATES i guess these tariffs, worked and

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Speaker 4: now we've got the fifteen percent tariff going on for.

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Speaker 3: Forever the question is is that good FOR?

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Speaker 4: Us i'm not arguing against the earning fifty billion dollars in.

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Speaker 4: Squeeze is anybody going to take the time to do

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Speaker 4: answer that, question because right, now based on every data

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Speaker 3: Not with every.

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Speaker 6: Nation do we need This with some maybe.

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Speaker 4: If we're discussing an, abuse a, usurpation an aggressive attack

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Speaker 4: on our economic system that others are utilizing through, TARIFFS

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Speaker 4: i don't mind with hitting them with something to get

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Speaker 4: SECURITY i think that when you take a look at

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Speaker 4: than as we view it with let's Say, china where

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Speaker 4: we could play that. Game we can make that, argument

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Speaker 4: and that argument is. Sound but tariffs have nothing to

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Speaker 3: Border it's a different. Argument you can't.

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Speaker 4: Engage that we have these new trade deals With mexico

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Speaker 3: Security that dog won't. Hunt it just.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't but the idea of explaining the value of the

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Speaker 4: tariff as a tactic is something THAT i wholeheartedly. Agree

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Speaker 4: we should look at the larger. Picture, Malaysia, Japan South.

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Speaker 4: Korea we said in this tariff conversation and this trade deal,

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Speaker 3: AND i believe my other one Was.

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Speaker 4: setting up the dominoes of pressure and of course ON

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Speaker 4: Say trump is losing the trade war With.

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Speaker 6: China why would you say? This why would you think

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Speaker 3: This why would democrats? Say, oh that's.

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Speaker 4: Right first of, all they're Not, democrats they're progressive. Leftists

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Speaker 4: The Democratic party is, dead the leftist killed. It they

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Speaker 4: The democrats need to satisfy their leftist. Base, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: no that's. Nonsense there are No. Democrats they are the leftist.

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Speaker 4: Base whether It's Elizabeth warren Or alexandria Casse cortez Or

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Speaker 3: They are the leftist. Base there are No.

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Speaker 4: Democrats they're not satisfying anybody except. Themselves they and their

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Speaker 3: And here they are that day Before trump meets With.

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Speaker 4: Ajijinping, REALLY i, mean depending on how you look at

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Speaker 4: the time, zones day of how do we Undermine Donald?

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Speaker 4: Trump how do we undermine him with our biggest? Adversary

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Speaker 4: and they're, like we know, how and they do this undermining,

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Speaker 4: americamining Undermining american, opportunity Undermining american. Strength, well as long

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Speaker 4: as we can get a dig On, trump as long

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Speaker 4: as we can Hurt, trump.

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Speaker 3: That's that's all that.

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Speaker 4: Matters as long as we could support Our kami brethren In, beijing.

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Speaker 3: Well then we're.

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Speaker 6: Good that's what they.

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Speaker 4: Did President Donald trump is losing a self inflicted trade

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Speaker 4: war With.

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Speaker 6: China ALL i know is.

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Speaker 4: You have opportunities Under, trump and you had none Under.

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