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Speaker 1: I just looked at it and I thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: the nature and the overall mentality of this team, with

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Speaker 2: I think that's so well put, Jake. This is clearly

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Speaker 2: we've used it over and over. A resilient group, you're

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Speaker 3: Have dealt with all season with injuries.

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Speaker 2: It just speaks to the incredible job, the character of

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Speaker 2: And sometimes that communication, that belief, that willingness.

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Speaker 3: To sacrifice, whatever it might be inside a single possession

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Speaker 2: They've checked all the boxes and Stephanie White has done

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Speaker 3: Coaching this group.

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Speaker 1: You know, Debbie, It's interesting because I brought this up

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any question.

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Speaker 2: Conceptually, most teams runs something very similar with a tweak

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Speaker 2: and this really speaks to the larger picture.

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Speaker 3: On where the women's game is. The players that have come.

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Speaker 2: Conceptually, they've been at places where people run the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Debbie Antonelli is our guest. She, of course a WNBA

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Speaker 2: I do think Stephanie has some interchangeable parts.

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Speaker 3: There are players that during.

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Speaker 1: Debbie, my favorite pacer, and I've talked about this on

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Speaker 1: Who is the Fever's aaron Nie Smith?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think he's a wonderful young man.

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Speaker 3: He's a hard worker. He's got the character of a champion.

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Speaker 2: Described him, Jake, I think Lexi Hall is that person

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Speaker 3: Typically she's at one point during the season because I

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Speaker 3: The role that she plays, and I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I got chills on that, Jake. That's exactly it.

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Speaker 2: You get to the playoffs, and that's the beauty of

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Speaker 3: And you're right about society.

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Speaker 3: This is where sport's supposed to play the role in

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Speaker 3: It depends on who's on the floor.

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Speaker 3: You believe, because you know who's on the floor.

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Speaker 5: You understand what they've done.

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Speaker 3: They put the time in the repid. It's a really

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Speaker 2: It's a wonderful thing to talk about too, because it's

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Speaker 1: Debbie, I know you've mentioned this before, but I've never asked.

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Speaker 3: He works at a pizza.

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Speaker 3: So those are the things that he does, basically food.

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Speaker 1: Service and frank you, for those that are unfamiliar, in

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Speaker 2: You can learn a lot from watching people's body language

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Speaker 3: But you see that pure joy, and it resonates with.

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Speaker 3: Lexi does that, Aaron does it, and Frankie.

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Speaker 3: Jake, thank you for bringing that up.

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Speaker 1: Now. Typically when I go down to Clemson games, I

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Speaker 2: Hey listen, then if you can get in there, that

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Speaker 1: Places, I'm sure, no question. It's a great town, great environment,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jake, Let's go Fever.

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Speaker 1: Love it. Debbie Antonelli joining us on the program. Tom

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Speaker 5: And when I say we, I say everybody around South End,

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Speaker 5: You score forty points in your own building, you think

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Speaker 5: of well, here we go again, it's win out or

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Speaker 1: You know, the easy answer here, Tom would be you've

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts first, after the first game of the season,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, defensively, I mean this goes without saying

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Speaker 1: But more so than that, Tom, and you know you

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go the Mike Bray routes and say and

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Speaker 5: I don't know how Notre Dames getting out of this,

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Speaker 5: What are you going to do with a minute to

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Speaker 1: Tom. Let's look at their schedule here, Okay, if they're

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Speaker 1: involved in that playoff if you look at it right now. Purdue, Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: Is that enough that if they run the table right now,

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Speaker 5: The national narrative is how in the heck can Notre

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Speaker 6: And they dodged a huge, huge obstacle last year in

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Speaker 5: I don't know how they're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: Teams in the country. You know, I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: hurts him, Tom, what hurts them, and you're gonna laugh.

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss hurt them. Now people are going old with Jake.

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Speaker 1: What what the heck does old Miss have to do

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Speaker 1: having said that, Old Miss beat Arkansas and Arkansas is

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Speaker 1: one of those I think Notre Dame has to look

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Speaker 1: at Arkansas, USC and Boise State and at the very

441
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Speaker 1: least they need two of those three at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year to really look like good wins. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and if Arkansas, you know, Arkansas right now at two

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Speaker 1: to one, but they lost to Old Miss. Arkansas is

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Speaker 1: kind of in the same boat, you know. The SEC

446
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Speaker 1: slate is loaded. Though. If Arkansas can get some quality

447
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Speaker 1: wins and get themselves to the point of the end

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Speaker 1: of the year, it's like the NCAA tournament selection Sunday

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Speaker 1: at a tom At this point it is.

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Speaker 5: And the thing is, too can they go ten and two?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely last year when they were one on one, we

452
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Speaker 5: were thinking it's gonna be tough, but they I can

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Speaker 5: see a pass because that defense was so good. Now

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Speaker 5: the flip side is true, they can go ten and two.

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Speaker 5: But with that defense, do you trust that defense against

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Speaker 5: Boise State or USC or some team that just comes

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Speaker 5: out of Note or Arkansas. If notre Ame wins tomorrow

458
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Speaker 5: forty one to nothing, that's still not gonna solve the

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Speaker 5: biggest issue that's gonna plague this team. Going to Fayetteville

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Speaker 5: for the first time, it's going to be how is

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Speaker 5: that defense gonna hold up in an sec atmosphere at

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Speaker 5: eleven am at a place they's never been. I just

463
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Speaker 5: I can't get to a point now where you trust

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Speaker 5: that defense to run off ten straight wins.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what what is the conversation I guess or what

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Speaker 1: has been said this week from Marcus Freeman just in

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Speaker 1: regards to Purdue. And you know, obviously, I think a

468
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Speaker 1: year ago you could really make the case Ryan Waltz's

469
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Speaker 1: fate might have been sealed anyway. But that was I

470
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Speaker 1: mean they licked. They would put the stamp on it

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Speaker 1: with that, right. Just this Purdue team, new coach. I

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Speaker 1: know they're coming off with disappointment against USC but at

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Speaker 1: the same you know, because they had a lot of

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Speaker 1: red zone turnovers. But they do look to me to

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Speaker 1: be more competent. But we still don't know exactly who

476
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Speaker 1: they are. What is Marcus Freeman said.

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Speaker 5: Very little, if anything, because it's all about if we

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Speaker 5: get we've we've gotten. We've got coach speak, playbook one

479
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Speaker 5: on one all week. For Marcus Freeman, it's not about

480
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Speaker 5: who we're playing. It's about us. We need to worry

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Speaker 5: about us. There was a point in Monday's press or

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Speaker 5: when he was asked, you know, Marcus, what do you

483
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Speaker 5: like about your defense? And he paused and stammered and

484
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Speaker 5: fumbled over the tripped over the question and was like,

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Speaker 5: I just look at all the bad things, So this

486
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Speaker 5: is not this. I don't think this has any I

487
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Speaker 5: don't know how many times the name Purdue or or

488
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Speaker 5: anybody on that offense or that defense for the Boiler

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Speaker 5: Americas has been uttered this week around notre aim because

490
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Speaker 5: it's like, how do we fix this defense? This defense?

491
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Speaker 5: Because the offensively. This team's fine.

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Speaker 1: The CJ.

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Speaker 5: Carr. Maybe you want to get Jeremiah Love a little

494
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Speaker 5: more involved, Maybe you want to get Jane Greadhouse more involved.

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Speaker 5: But I think Marcus Freeman has spend in every waking

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Speaker 5: moment right now worried about how in the world we're

497
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Speaker 5: going to fix this defense, and not worried about what

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Speaker 5: Purdue may or may not do on Saturday afternoon over

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Speaker 5: at in other Aam stadium.

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Speaker 1: Interesting thing, Tom, in college football is you have a

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Speaker 1: handful of programs. I would put Alabama in the category

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Speaker 1: I'm about to mention, I would put maybe Oklahoma in

503
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Speaker 1: this category. I'm about to mention in probably Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: And that is completely irrational fans when it comes to

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Speaker 1: coaching stability. Okay, in other words, a team loses back

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Speaker 1: to back games and it's like a hot seat. This

507
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Speaker 1: is terrible, you know, et cetera, et cetera. I don't

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Speaker 1: think notre Names season is going to collapse, But as

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Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman, is there a situation. Is there any possibility

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Speaker 1: this year that it could go south to the point

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Speaker 1: where conversations begin.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about conversations as far as concerns like

513
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Speaker 5: there were concerns last year coming clear in Northern Illinois.

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Speaker 5: We'll go back to that game. After that game, it.

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Speaker 7: Wasn't I don't know if he's the guy, because this

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Speaker 7: just keeps happening in September, and this was before the

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Speaker 7: one and two start. You had Northern Illinois, you had Marshall,

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Speaker 7: you had Stanford, you had a no at Louisville. He

519
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Speaker 7: had a no show at Clemson, and so after.

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Speaker 5: Northern Illinois it was I don't know. The jury is

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Speaker 5: still out of Marcus streaman bangy rips off ten wins

522
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Speaker 5: in a row, he gets a massive contract extension. He

523
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Speaker 5: can't do anything wrong in anybody's eyes. Now it's it's

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Speaker 5: not I don't know if Marcus Freeman's the guy. It's

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Speaker 5: you just got to fire Chris ash yesterday. But if

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Speaker 5: this goes south, then we're which is which is why

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Speaker 5: it made Saturday so disappointing. And what I basically wrote

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Speaker 5: about Saturday night Sunday morning was they were supposed to

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Speaker 5: be beyond this, like well, Notre Dame, they played for

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Speaker 5: national championship. Maybe this year they can get back and

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Speaker 5: win a national championship. Not this cute, this this start

532
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Speaker 5: and stop and start and stop and spluttering of really

533
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Speaker 5: big wins and really baffling losses. So unless this goes

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Speaker 5: completely off the tracks, every the one person in the

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Speaker 5: crosshairs of every fan is not Marcus Scream, then it's

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Speaker 5: Chris Ash.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you one. I think Tom Noy

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Speaker 1: is our guest by the way from the South, Ben

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Speaker 1: trim Mune, Purdue and Notre Dame tomorrow. Tom, I never

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Speaker 1: asked you about this, I don't think. And we had

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Speaker 1: you on a lot, which I appreciate during the playoffs

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Speaker 1: last year after the Indiana game, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: I brought this up to you. If I did, I

544
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Speaker 1: was going to bring it back up. You know, Indiana

545
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Speaker 1: right now finds themselves in the spot where they are unbeaten.

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Speaker 1: They go in with Illinois tomorrow night, a big one.

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Speaker 1: Might be the biggest home game in a long time

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Speaker 1: Immemorial Stadium history. And I think there were those Everybody

549
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Speaker 1: loved Kurt Signetti and still does from an Indiana standpoint,

550
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Speaker 1: and the bravada and the just the confidence at times brash, right,

551
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Speaker 1: But I think there is some thought that going on

552
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Speaker 1: game day on the field, while Notre Dame is warming

553
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Speaker 1: up in the background and showing that same Kurt Signetti Bravada.

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Speaker 1: I really did, for a split second think that because

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Speaker 1: Pat McAfee was on that stage, that for a split

556
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Speaker 1: second Signetti actually thought he was doing the McAfee show

557
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Speaker 1: as opposed to the Game day show, and he almost

558
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Speaker 1: lost sight of that filter. And I thought he went

559
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Speaker 1: to the Roulett wheel one too many times on the

560
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Speaker 1: push the chest out on a stage where finally the

561
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Speaker 1: moment was bigger than the check he could write, is

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Speaker 1: there any in your thought accuracy to that assessment.

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Speaker 5: One thousand percent? Like, that's great, that's great if you're

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Speaker 5: going to talk again a good game like that, but

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Speaker 5: you better back it up and not let Jeremiah Love

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Speaker 5: go ninety eight yards sixteen seconds or whatever it was

567
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Speaker 5: into the game and then you're down and it's that

568
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Speaker 5: game was basically over by halftime. So it's Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 5: did the same thing that Notre Dame did the other

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Speaker 5: night against Texas A and M. They puffed out their chest.

571
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Speaker 5: They stood next to Texas A and M as there

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Speaker 5: as the Aggies were running off to the field toward

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Speaker 5: their tunnel pregame, and as there was some barking and

574
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Speaker 5: some wolfing and this and that, and it's like afterward,

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Speaker 5: I said, that's great that Notre Dame can do something

576
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Speaker 5: like that, but if you're gonna do that, and you're

577
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Speaker 5: gonna go that far out on the ledge, you better

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Speaker 5: back it up. And Signetti certainly did not, and Notre

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Speaker 5: Dame obviously did not. The other night against A and M.

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Speaker 1: Tom, appreciate the time as always, three point thirty tomorrow,

581
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Speaker 1: Perdue and Notre Dame. And I was, look, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I guess I thought twenty five and a half for

583
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Speaker 1: twenty six and a half or whatever. I was a

584
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Speaker 1: little surprised by the size of that spread, just because

585
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Speaker 1: it's a Power five school. I am I giving Purdue

586
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Speaker 1: too much credit.

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Speaker 5: I thought, that's the same thing this morning, Like that's

588
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Speaker 5: a lot of points for a big ten team, A

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Speaker 5: lot of.

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Speaker 1: Points, right, and again I mean a big ten team

591
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Speaker 1: at the very least. I guess we say with Barry

592
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Speaker 1: odom with you know, a new attitude. But we'll see

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Speaker 1: whether or not that backs up. But it should be

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Speaker 1: fun tomorrow. Appreciate the time as always. Tom, You got

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Speaker 1: brother seby Grede weekd you too, Tom Nooy joining us

596
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Speaker 1: South Bend Tribune Colts and Titans coming up in Nashville

597
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and for the Colts for the most part,

598
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Speaker 1: looking pretty good from a health standpoint. Tyler Warren yesterday

599
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Speaker 1: was limited in practice leat too lot. Looks like is

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Speaker 1: going to be a go joining us now on the show,

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Speaker 1: and a guy that I am fairly certain because I

602
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Speaker 1: think he only had to endure one or two. Matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, I think he got a reprieve because one

604
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Speaker 1: of the years that we were doing the morning show together,

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Speaker 1: I believe Talk Like a Pirate Day fell on the weekend,

606
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Speaker 1: so he was spared in that regard. The other time,

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Speaker 1: I think he and Mark tried to keep it from me,

608
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Speaker 1: but word got out from a small pirate parrot that

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Speaker 1: on the shoulder. Let me know, Kevin Voe, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: thrilled to not be doing the show today with me

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Speaker 1: on Talk Like a Pirate Day.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Kevin, Yeah, happy hours starting earlier on this Friday,

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Speaker 4: after I'd just got wind of that.

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Speaker 1: Did you say a happy hour by the.

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Speaker 4: Way, Yeah, gos go ahead.

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Speaker 1: No, I was just going to say, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you for you know, you might just say get yourself

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Speaker 1: a coke that obviously goes with them, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 4: Eddie Garrett said, I'm thinking about your brother.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thankful you have a hung up. You're helping

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Speaker 1: me get through this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the final hour.

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Speaker 1: Here we are, Kevin. I thought last night, I I

625
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Speaker 1: was curious, and I know that we're only two weeks

626
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Speaker 1: into the season, but Miami last night and maybe, you know,

627
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Speaker 1: maybe Buffalo schematically took things off the gas. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I thought that it was an encouraging sign for

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Speaker 1: the Colts because I mean, the Colts absolutely annihilated Miami.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Miami was never in that game. And it's

631
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Speaker 1: the opening week, so you just don't know. But with

632
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Speaker 1: each week you're trying to find out more and more

633
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Speaker 1: how legitimate the perceptions are of a team. And I

634
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Speaker 1: thought last night what that showed was that, you know what,

635
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Speaker 1: maybe the Colts are legit, because you know, maybe Miami

636
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: is in fact more competent than we give them credit.

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Speaker 1: But this week, in terms of Week three, is going

638
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Speaker 1: to tell us a lot, because I don't think Tennessee's

639
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Speaker 1: very good at all. Right, But wouldn't it be the

640
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Speaker 1: sign of a young team to start out two and

641
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Speaker 1: ohero or a team feeling its way and then go

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Speaker 1: down and stub their toe. This this could be a

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Speaker 1: real opportunity for them to go three and oh. I

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Speaker 1: just want your thoughts on what you think of Tennessee

645
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Speaker 1: and in addition, just what you think of the Colts

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Speaker 1: approach going into it. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a big just kind of take care

648
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Speaker 4: of business week game, you know, be a professional, be disciplined.

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Speaker 4: That's the word changed that I can to use the

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Speaker 4: whole time this week. You know, it's not one of

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Speaker 4: these I don't like de ol'bron A lot of this

652
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Speaker 4: is a trap game. I'm like, Week three trap game.

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Speaker 4: Your your first road game of the year, your first

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Speaker 4: divisional game of the year. I can't play like a

655
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: to me. In order for you to have trap games

656
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: on your schedule, that means you need to have been

657
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: good in recent years, good to great. You know. I

658
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: kind of look at trap games as hey, it's a

659
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 4: ten week grind and in week seven or eight, you know,

660
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 4: Sandwich the Jets around the Eagles and the Chiefs, or

661
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 4: you know, the Eagles and the Bill something like that.

662
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 4: So I don't view it in that light, but I

663
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: do view it in. You are a road favorite, it

664
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Speaker 4: is a rookie quarterback. You are going to be in

665
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: an atmosphere that I would call one of the least

666
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: hostile in the NFL. You need to go down there,

667
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 4: and you know, again, just take care of business. And

668
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 4: the NFL presents some of these on the schedule. It's

669
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 4: not maybe the greatest January indicator, but it counts as

670
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: one of the w's or one of the l's. And

671
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 4: when you only have seventeen of them, all of them

672
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: carry some weight, and the division ones carry.

673
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 1: You know, more weight.

674
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it's just kind of, you know,

675
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 4: a little business approach from the Colts here coming up

676
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: Sunday at one o'clock.

677
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: Let's get to the I guess the health status, Kevin.

678
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: I mean I mentioned the two big ones in Warren

679
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: and Leatu. Where else do we stand in terms of,

680
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, who's expected to be in, who may be out,

681
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: et cetera.

682
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: Well, no Colts player was ruled out for the game,

683
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: so that's obviously a good sign. Chaverius Ward has a

684
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 4: clearance from an independent neurologist and that is his final step.

685
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: So assuming he's good to go there, he should be back,

686
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: and I guess kind of the question now becomes, you know,

687
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 4: with Tyler Warren, with you know, maybe Josh Downsis laugh

688
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: too OTSU. You know, for the it looked like all

689
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 4: these guys practice the final two days of a week.

690
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: That's usually a great sign that they'll play in the game.

691
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: I think now the question becomes how much do they

692
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 4: play in the game? Like Tyler Warren played sixty six

693
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: snaps on Sunday against the Broncos. That is a massive

694
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 4: number for a tight end. So you know, are you

695
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 4: comfortable giving him that number again on Sunday if needed?

696
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 4: Or do you know, kind of hold him back and

697
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: maybe hitch count them a little bit more? Same thing

698
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: with lots of you know, are you keeping him to

699
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: only third down reps? Are you all you know first

700
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: and second him as well? So I think those are

701
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: some of the questions. But you know, unless you know,

702
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: a lot two probably is the one given it the

703
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: hamstring and you know he's only been out for a week,

704
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: you know, unless they don't feel comfortable throwing him out there,

705
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 4: I would think the Colts are going to be pretty

706
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: healthy here in Week three. It more just comes down

707
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: to U, you know, how many plays they want to

708
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Speaker 4: give some of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen is our guest. You of course hear him

710
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: in the morning along with jeff Rickord and James Boyd

711
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: on the Fan Morning Show, also on WISH Television with

712
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: Anthony Calhoun weekly talking about the Colts and in that vein,

713
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I have seen Kevin that you have been very bullish

714
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: on and I know it's just two games on Daniel

715
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: Jones and what he's done, and I think still you

716
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: find yourself like like rubbing your eyes, like is this

717
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: is this? I'm really seeing this here because the level

718
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: of play that he has played, is it sustainable?

719
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

720
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 4: That kind of I thought the analogy was you know

721
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: pretty well that you just did. They are pretty good

722
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 4: and in the sense of it is kind of like

723
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: rub your eyes you know the culture too and l

724
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Speaker 4: I don't think that's like the most shocking element. It's

725
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: more of how are they two and oh? And they're

726
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: largely two and ol because of Daniel Jones and because

727
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 4: of their offense, because of Shane Saken's play calling. All

728
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: of that that I think is what is truly truly impressive.

729
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: I thought the Denver game was a big step in

730
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Speaker 4: the Oh my gosh, he's making some of these throws

731
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: that are not just clean pockets. You know, you brought

732
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 4: up Miami earlier. I thought that Miami game he just

733
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Speaker 4: benefited Daniel Jones, that is, from such a clean operation

734
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Speaker 4: in front of them. I mean that's not always going

735
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 4: to be the case. And you know, you go back

736
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: to that first throw of the game on Sunday, I

737
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: mean that is a muddy pocket. He hangs in there

738
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: and delivers one day hushdowns for a huge play. I mean,

739
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: those are some of the plays where you start to

740
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 4: you know, teer out quarterbacks and you know, you start

741
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: to kind of rank them a little bit. That's what

742
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: separates a lot of these guys. And now the question is,

743
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: all right, more film is out there. You know, how

744
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 4: are you gonna deliver on the road. How are you

745
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: going to liver you know, in third down two minutes?

746
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 4: You know, But with how the game played out, Jane

747
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 4: Sigon didn't have him throw the whole ball a whole

748
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: lot there in the final you know, five or ten

749
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: minutes of that game. But you know, obviously as the

750
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: season plays along, he's going to be in more and

751
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: more of those moments and he's going to have to deliver.

752
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 4: So I would take Game two for me, bless you

753
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 4: by the way, I would say Game two for me

754
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: showed a little bit more on the Wow. This you

755
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: know might be something, But you know, as we know

756
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: of the NFL, it's September nineteenth, and there'll be a

757
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 4: whole lot more checkpoints and a whole lot more can

758
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: you string it together? Can you do it away from home?

759
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: A lot more on the evaluation cards? So don't know

760
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: if I can kind of slam me, uh you know,

761
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: build a statue next to Peyton yet. But I have

762
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 4: been wildly impressed by the first two weeks.

763
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Speaker 1: You know the do you believe Kevin that as we

764
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: go along here that they will more open up the

765
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: offense for Daniel Jones. And because you know they are starting,

766
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: we're starting to see he does have arm and he's

767
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: not afraid to show that. But does is Shane Stiken

768
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: played this close to the best so far? Offensively?

769
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: Uh?

770
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Speaker 4: No, I mean I think he's I think dandel Joe,

771
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 4: I mean, outside of like designed runs that Anthony Richardson

772
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: you would have, I think Danda Jones allows him to

773
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 4: tap into much more of the cheesecake factory playbook menu

774
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: than the you know whatever steak and shake menu that

775
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 4: you know, Anthony Richardson might have available to him. And

776
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 4: I think he trusts him to have, you know, a

777
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: ton of plays with the line of scrimmage. And yeah,

778
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 4: I think Daniel Jones is pretty football nerdy and Shane

779
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: ssyke In is uber football nerdy. So I think he

780
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 4: really enjoys that, and I think he really tries to

781
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: tap into that. And I think the Colts feel like

782
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: they have a big advantage chess match wise X and

783
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 4: o's Monday through Saturday even someday. Some of the pre

784
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: staff stuff and identifying things and knowing what coverage just

785
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: coming and boom, here's the first read and you know,

786
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: here are the answers if we get this sort of coverage. So,

787
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: you know, again, in the football nerdy atmosphere, I think quarterback,

788
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 4: head coach, play callerwise, I think the Colts feel like

789
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 4: they walk in they walk into games here in twenty

790
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: twenty five with the advantage more often than not.

791
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself football nerdy?

792
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: Uh?

793
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: I mean I think I'm a nerd, but no, I

794
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: mean not the I mean paink Shane Steichel, Shane Shane

795
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 4: stikeens that you know he's in he's in Oxford or

796
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: he's at you know, some IVY league level.

797
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: I mean that man, Yeah.

798
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 4: I mean his football intellect is you know, you with

799
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: whatever Indy five hundred history, or you with cologns or watches.

800
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: Fair enough. I actually take that as a compliment. Kevin.

801
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. By the way, somebody

802
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: said you were making fun of me yesterday. Did you

803
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: guys do the mayonnaise thing again?

804
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: Oh?

805
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did.

806
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 4: We did the well, we didn't do the actual Mayo plot,

807
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 4: but we played the audio of the plot, just a

808
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 4: great acoustic if yes, thank you, gosh, ed you were

809
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: on that, Thank you? Can I hear that one more time?

810
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: That he.

811
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 4: Gosh, that's just beautiful? Just a ring in my ear. Yeah,

812
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: so will Levis of course Mayo and his coffee. For

813
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 4: those unfamiliar with that story, I believe Jake and I

814
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 4: and Mark decided that well, I think it was Mark

815
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 4: and I mainly decided. We tried to kind of peer

816
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 4: pressure Jake into it to have to drink coffee with

817
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: Mayo in it.

818
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 3: If Will Levis.

819
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 4: Started a game against the colts. I want to say

820
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: you started too, so I think we had two instances,

821
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 4: and I want to say you did one of those

822
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: faking COVID things like you did, like you know, I

823
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: remember when you fake COVID.

824
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that they had COVID. Remember during the ship beating contest,

825
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: I did the mayonnaise. I did it.

826
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: Did you do it both times?

827
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 6: No?

828
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: You guys only did it? Did you do it twice?

829
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: I did it once.

830
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: I think we did it.

831
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, and you know, back then, I've never

832
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: liked coffee, And then I started getting samples at IndyCar

833
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: races from Java House, and now I drink Java House

834
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: like it's going out of style, just for what it's worth.

835
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: But not with mayonnaise, because mayonnaise is horrific.

836
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 4: Right, Uh shout out to the head carpenter Ray King

837
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: at say the top of that coffee with the mayonnaise,

838
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: it looked like a it looked like it was like

839
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 4: a State Fair porter party. On Data fourteen.

840
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: It was rough, man, it was rough. I remember. I

841
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: believe Mark's line was that'll put some lead in your pencil.

842
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: It was it was rough. I remember I believe you

843
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: took the first stip. So will Levis. That was you know,

844
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: during that to rehash that, Yes, he was rubored to

845
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: be coming to the Colts. When you did it, Mark,

846
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: I remember you saying like, oh gosh, it like curdled

847
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: right away, right Oh.

848
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, my gaggery, I mean like gagory flush.

849
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: Oh.

850
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: I can feel myself all of a sudden refles right now.

851
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 4: I was not that I root for injury for any player,

852
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 4: but when will Levis I saw was going to miss

853
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 4: the whole season due to a shoulder injury.

854
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: Let's just say it wasn't into the world.

855
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 4: Thinking about having to consume anymore Mayo in the in

856
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 4: the coffee.

857
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: How many games in the NFL in his career remaining

858
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: do you believe will Levis starts?

859
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 4: Oh boy, that's a good one. I will say over

860
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: under of three and a half.

861
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna say over under a five. I mean,

862
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: Malik Willis still gets a start here and there. You know,

863
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: I could see him in that kind of a role.

864
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: Right yeah, I mean somebody's back up. I mean it's

865
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: wa mean, Carson went six straight years. There's got to

866
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: be a Fitzpatrick or McCown still hanging around somewhere. I mean,

867
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: I feel like Jacoby Verssettz turned into the new one. Yeah,

868
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: of like, you know, he's now just made great money

869
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: as his backup quarterback. So uh yeah, Levi is certainly

870
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: not in Tennessee, but you know somebody will bring him

871
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: in and you know somebody will get hurt.

872
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota's become that guy as well.

873
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's starting on Sunday.

874
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is starting in Washington, hadn't he right?

875
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

876
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Eddie, you had a defensive question.

877
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, keV Jake and I were talking about this Monday,

878
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 8: and I think you and I touched on it on

879
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 8: the Monday Recap pod. But you look at this Colts

880
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 8: defense specifically on the line, and I'm going to get

881
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 8: into a little bit of a nerdy statistic here, so

882
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 8: bear with me. ESPN has like past what past rush

883
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 8: win rate percentages and run stop win rate percentages according

884
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 8: to their you know, however they evaluate these things. The

885
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 8: Colts rank thirty second nineteen percent pass rush win rate

886
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 8: and twenty fifth in the NFL twenty seven percent a

887
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 8: run stop win right, if that's something this Colts defensive

888
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 8: line can't do on Sunday against cam Wood, like like

889
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 8: Los Angeles and Denver has so far. I think that's

890
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 8: where the trap game element that you were talking about,

891
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 8: which it comes into play, just because this may be

892
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 8: the one time in his career so far where Ward

893
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 8: may have some time in the pocket to find the

894
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 8: open guy or they may be able to start running

895
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 8: the ball effectively with Tony Pollard.

896
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think from a word standpoint about

897
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: Sunday would be this Pollard I think has forced the

898
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 4: most of miss tackles in the league so far of

899
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 4: any running back. I don't need to bring up the

900
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 4: infamous third and nineteen touchdown Tony Pollard scored last year

901
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: where the Colts just tackled horrifically on the play probably

902
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: honestly ended the Gush Bradley tenure. And they can't Ward.

903
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 4: You know, you saw the touchdown last week. You know

904
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: it has the backyard element to it. You know, that

905
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 4: would probably be the one thing. But you know, maybe

906
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 4: the most disappointing aspect of the Colts season so far

907
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 4: is probably the pass rush and just in general, Eddie,

908
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: I'd say the defensive front and their playmaking. You know,

909
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: I just cannot count and linebackers are including this, I

910
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: just can't. I don't remember many plays at all in

911
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 4: the first two weeks, so I don't think that's an

912
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: area where tennessee their O line is not good. And

913
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: I think if you asked the Colts, they would have

914
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 4: a whole lot of yes, we have a wide grin

915
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: and big ol' lies thinking about the possibilities of getting

916
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 4: after cam Ward. So kind of a get right game there. Again,

917
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 4: go back to the first point we had. I don't

918
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 4: know if like that all of a sudden means oh,

919
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: the pass rush is fixed. You'ren't have to bring some

920
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: things together and prove it weekend and week out, but

921
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 4: you play what shows up on Sunday, and this is

922
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 4: what the opportunity is.

923
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 8: I ask you that because in Week one J T.

924
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 8: Truy Molola, who they just used a second round pick

925
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 8: on in the April draft, was a healthy scratch. He

926
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 8: was active last week because of Law two being sidelined

927
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 8: with the hammy. He played five snaps. What does a

928
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 8: player like him have to do to get on the field.

929
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 8: Just because this isn't a guy they took in the

930
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 8: fifth or the sixth round. This is a guy that

931
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 8: they used a premium pick on who not only was

932
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 8: not playing at some non power five directional school. He

933
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 8: was playing at Ohio State and he was productive for

934
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 8: the national champions.

935
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's a great point. The final point

936
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 4: that you bring there, I mean three year starter and

937
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: I mean had a great run through their playoffs. Yeah,

938
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: I mean, to further that point, it's not like some

939
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 4: of these pass rushers you see draft that high.

940
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 5: They're a little bit of a project.

941
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 4: You know, they maybe didn't have the eye popping stats

942
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: and you know maybe the only started for one year.

943
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: That's not three model out at all, and he can

944
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: line up with multiple spots and I think you saw

945
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: that in camp in the preseason. So it is confusing

946
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: to me. Lou An Rumo has never been a big

947
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: play the young guys guy, So I you know, maybe

948
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 4: I'm reading too much into that, but I do think

949
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: I just think the Colts, frankly, have just have a

950
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: bunch of power rushers. They don't have a lot of

951
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 4: speed and lots who is probably the one kind of

952
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: speed bending edge rusher that you would have, So you know,

953
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: his absence last week was clearly so. But definitely that

954
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: is a big storyline I think moving forward, when you

955
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: play you know, Kyler Murray and you play Justin Herbert,

956
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 4: and you play Patrick Mahomes and you play You'll see

957
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: j Strouds and these other quarterbacks on the schedule. You know,

958
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 4: can your passers show up? Because it's been pretty pretty

959
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: absent to the first two weeks.

960
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Kevin, which do you which game is a more intrigue

961
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: to you? Kevin Bow and our guest Indiana Illinois. I

962
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: heard you talking about this morning or Produe Notre Dame.

963
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 5: I don't ask some questions. I mean, you know you're

964
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 5: talking to it.

965
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: Well, let me rephrase that. I mean I'm not talking

966
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: about from a fan perspective, which one you're like more

967
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: excited about? Like, which game do you actually think has

968
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: the more intriguing storyline?

969
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 4: Yeah? Easily Saturday Night. I mean yeah, obviously I was

970
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: speaking very selfishly out of my out of my fandom.

971
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: That probably needs to be checked a little bit, But yes,

972
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 4: Saturday Night. I mean, Jake, you know that campus, you

973
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 4: know that atmosphere full well, I mean I just can't

974
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 4: recall a game that you know has this, and I

975
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: get Michigan last year kind of had it, but this

976
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 4: to me is different because the opponent also has a

977
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: ton at stake, and you know, both of these programs

978
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: are not really used to these types of games. Frankly, so, yeah,

979
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 4: forty two years, I think it's the sad or not

980
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 4: forty two, but eighty seven I believe the last time

981
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 4: you got to go back to that for Top twenty

982
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 4: matchup in Mton. So and this is it really from

983
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 4: a home schedule, you know when you look at a

984
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: lot of the big games the rest of the year

985
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: are more on the road side of it for Indiana.

986
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 4: So what an atmosphere, I mean college towns like this

987
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: is what you dream of. Is the home night college

988
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: football game. Frankly, I think college game they should be there.

989
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 4: I think it's a joke, it's not so yeah. And

990
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: then and then on top of all of that, it

991
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: is the playoff ramifications with it as well. So cannot

992
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 4: wait for Saturday night.

993
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Certainly be a lot of fun and we will certainly

994
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: look forward to hearing on Monday. James Boyd, I know,

995
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: was chirping pretty loud from that Illinois standpoint. You mentioned

996
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: the RCAA Dome Illinois fans traveling I L I and

997
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: I against Notre Damen basketball some twenty years ago. We

998
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: we'll see what happened Saturday night and as well Notre

999
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: Damen perdue on Saturday afternoon. Kevin. Oh, by the way,

1000
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: your son makeers pick yet he did?

1001
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still need to post it. He went left

1002
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: hand Tongs and he went Colts because the they're the

1003
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 4: away too. We went outdoors, you know, mother nature for Sunday,

1004
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 4: so the elements led him to the Colts. The Titans

1005
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 4: helmet as you know, nothing too great, he thought. He

1006
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: called it the Broncos. He's confused, clearly.

1007
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: But what's Max's raccoon now? On the season?

1008
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: So for you, well, one on one he split. I

1009
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: think he's twenty one and fifteen overall. And the next

1010
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 4: week Rams, I actually pulled that helmet out last night

1011
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 4: to get ready for next week.

1012
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 5: That's just a stripe on it.

1013
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: So so yeah, I would expect him to pick Colts

1014
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: here in the next couple of weeks.

1015
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: We've got to remember we.

1016
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 8: Have the asterisks next to the Miami Dolphins on the

1017
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 8: lost side, Kevin, because it was influenced by his mom.

1018
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: Did she she did come it?

1019
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1020
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, to be honest, I mean he loves dolphins

1021
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: more than again, Jake loves cologne. I think he was

1022
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 4: going Dolphins no matter what they're.

1023
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of more on a watch kick

1024
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: than a cologne kick, just so you know.

1025
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 4: Oh well, Dooley noted here. Whatever, whenever you and I

1026
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 4: crossed pass on air again, I'll make.

1027
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 5: Sure to, you know, bump that up to the Jake

1028
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 5: Query set up topics.

1029
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: That's right, I do like colognes though, Kevin, enjoy the weekend.

1030
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: Enjoy the games too. Should be a good weekend of

1031
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: games all the way around. Boys have a great weekend,

1032
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: all right, Kevin Bowen joining us on the program.