1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: Tony Cats Today. Welcome everybody, Merry Christmas. Welcome to Tony 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Cats Today. 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: I am your guest host. Kira David's filling in for 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: my good friend Tony Kats. Coming to you live from 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: southern California. Not so sunny out here. It's actually raining. 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: We're in the middle of our rainy season, but we've 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: also had. 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: Some We've also had some. 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: Unusual rain. I'll say that unusual fog, unusual rain. Everyone's 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: been suspicious around here. Actually you should go online and 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: check it out. It's not the typical winter weather. That 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: being said, closest thing we get to winter, so I'll 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: take it it's closest thing we get to a cozy Christmas. 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. Tony Cats 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: is out today. I'm filling in for Tony. You can 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: find me over on at Kira Davis k or you 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 2: can go to my website just Kira Davis dot com. 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Check out all of this stuff I'm doing over there. 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: I took the week of Christmas off, but today I 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: added a nice Christmas message. We're going to talk about 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: Christmas is still going on. Of course, as we know, 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Tony does and celebrate Christmas because he's a Jew. 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: But that's okay. 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 2: We don't hold it against him. I'm just kidding, Tony. 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: Happy Hanukkah and happy holidays to you, Tony. And I 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: know he also wishes everyone out there on Merry Christmas 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: as well. But we Christians are still celebrating the Christmas season. 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: And I wrote a little piece today on my substrack 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: about why it's important to go out there and say 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas is not just a greeting, although 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: it is a greeting, and I do love that everyone 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: says it at the holidays. You know, my Jewish friends, 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: particularly my Jewish friends, I will say, I've never met 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't know where we get this. I've never met 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: a Jewish American who has been offended when I say 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: Married Christmas. In fact, most of them like it because 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: they recognize it as a warm holiday greeting. It means something. 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: So of course we should say Merry Christmas. If for 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: no other reason, then if you're not into the religious, 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: the religiosity at the Hall of the Holiday, if for 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: no other reason, then it's very American to say Merry Christmas. 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: You know, my husband and sen are getting ready to 44 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: go to Japan next fall. They're playing a trip to Japan, 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: and they were looking at how the Japanese celebrate Christmas, 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: and I thought that was kind of funny, and I said, 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: what are the Japanese celebrating when they celebrate Christmas? They're 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: not Christians. Christianity, I think is I think is one 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: of the least Christian countries in the world. Actually, there 50 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: really is next to zero presence of the Church in Japan, 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: and yet Christian Christmas is a holiday. What are they celebrating. 52 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: And my son said, well, it's cultural, you know, it's 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: American to them, and I think there's something to that. Yes, 54 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: it's American, but why is it considered American? So the 55 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas greeting also, yes it's an American greeting, but 56 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: here in America it's a blessing. It is us saying 57 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: to people, Christmas is here, Christmas has arrived, and Christmas 58 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: isn't a season. Christmas is a person. Christmas is the 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: baby Jesus. Christmas is Jesus came as a baby, didn't 60 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: stay as a baby. That's why we say Merry Christmas, 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: so it's really important to say it. And I think 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: everybody who loves this country agrees, even if they don't 63 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: share the holiday, even if they don't share the religious 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: aspect of the holiday. 65 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: And I think that is. 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: Also something that makes it very special. I think that 67 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: is also a testament to the power of the Gospel. 68 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: It means something even when it doesn't mean anything to 69 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: the So Merry Christmas to you. Christmas has arrived and 70 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: it's a great time to celebrate. 71 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Now. I know there's a lot going on out there 72 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of We've got influencer wars going on. 73 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: What's going on on, what's going on with the influencers 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: making Kelly ben shamiro and with what's happening out there 75 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson TPUSA. 76 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: I know a lot of you are concerned about what's 77 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: going on out there, and that's fine. 78 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: If you want to be concerned with that, that's fine. 79 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: These people are important people because they're called influencers for 80 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: a reason, right, they do influence things. But I would 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: like to give you permission if you're so inclined to 82 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: ignore all of it, because guess what, the work's still 83 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: going on on the ground. The work is still getting done, 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: and none of those people won the White House. They 85 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: helped some of them more than others. I think we 86 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: could make a case that Charlie Kirk's contribution was huge. 87 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: I tend to believe that what God has for us 88 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: is what He has for us. So if Charlie hadn't 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: stepped up to fill that app somebody else would have, 90 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: but nobody did. It was Charlie, So there's something to 91 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: be said about what he did. 92 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: For the movement. 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: But as far as the rest of those people up there, 94 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: they didn't run for office and they didn't win. 95 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: Trump did that, and you did that, and people who 96 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: don't know any of those influencers did that. Right. A 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 1: lot of people cross the aisle to get that done, 98 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: and none. 99 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: Of them have a clue what's going on on the 100 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: TPUSA stage. So I want you to I just want 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: to give you permission to not think about it. If 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: you don't want to, you just think about what you believe, 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: think about what you know to be right, be entertained 104 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: by them, get information from them. 105 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's what they're there for. 106 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: I'm not saying cancel them or don't ever listen to them. 107 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: Do whatever you want, you're an American, but please understand 108 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: that those people this is what we haven't adjusted to yet. 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: And this is sort of my message for the conservative 110 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: side of all of this. 111 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: Lately, we have. 112 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: Not quite adjusted to the new reality of the entertainment scape. Okay, 113 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: so we're still thinking of I talked to Stacey Washington, 114 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: my friend Stacy, a good friend of Tony's too is 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: while I was on hershew the other night, and I 116 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: said this to her. We think of all of this 117 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: as the activist fighting infighting in the conservative sphere or 118 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: you know, ideological infighting. We're never going to get it together, 119 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: and we have not understood that the industry has changed 120 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: since I got into it, since Tony got into it. 121 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: Tony and I are really we've been friends for a 122 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: long time. He's I've told you before. He's one of 123 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: my greatest mentors in this business from fifteen almost twenty 124 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: years ago. So we came up through this business when 125 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: there really was no conservative media. 126 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: There was Rush Limbaugh, there was Fox News, and then Andrew. 127 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: Breitbart came along, and that's what where me and Tony 128 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: came in on. We were all activists. We were activists 129 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: for the truth. We were trying to get the information 130 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: out there. 131 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: We were trying to get this point of view out there, 132 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: and that was our mission. 133 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: That was our goal to be heard. But we were 134 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: and we were successful. The problem is that we were 135 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: so successful we actually became We made our media like 136 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: left wing media, which is entertainment. And if you don't 137 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: think the news is entertainment, then why do we play 138 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: commercials at the new in the news? Right we're selling ads, 139 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: So we need to make you listen to our program 140 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: to sell the ads. 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: That means we need to give you things you're interested in. 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: And what the outlet determines is interesting to you depends. 143 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: On their ideology. Right. So news is entertainment to a 144 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: large extent, and we did not understand the shift from 145 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: being news creators and news reporters to an entertainment industry. 146 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: So now podcast casting has merged with broadcasting, both TV 147 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: and radio, and podcasting is just entertainment. 148 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: It's just you can put your own show on TV. 149 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: You know, I'm using air quotes on TV yourself. That's 150 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: what podcasting is. And podcasters are entertainers and we like entertainers. 151 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: We love our Brad Pitts and our tom cruises, we 152 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: love our Avengers, all of that. 153 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: That's what this is. 154 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: You don't think so, because they're giving you information that's real, right, 155 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 2: they're talking about what's in the news. They're talking about 156 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: the intrigue of politics. But it's just entertainment. They're entertainers 157 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: and they're getting paid. That's why they get paid so well. 158 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: And that's why your local truth teller makes pennies. These 159 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 2: people are entertainers and you should be entertained by them. 160 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm not saying that entertainers are 161 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: not truth tellers. 162 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they can't give you the truth. 163 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: Yes they are, Yes they can't. 164 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm just saying let them be who they are, and 165 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: don't hitch your wagonto it, and don't make them. 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: Your north star. You need to know what you believe 167 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: on your own without those people. If Megan Kelly disappears 168 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: tomorrow and never utters another word, do you know what 169 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: you believe? Do you still believe the same thing? 170 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: Ben Shapiro peels off and suddenly, for whatever reason, becomes 171 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: anti Israel and anti Semitic? 172 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: What about you? What do you believe? Where are you at? 173 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: You know? 174 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: Does what you believe change according to the person who's 175 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: saying it. See for me, No, no, Tony, No, I 176 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: know because I've known Tony all these years. 177 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: Do people I roll with to this day in this business. 178 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: They're the same people they were fifteen years ago. A 179 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: little more mature, maybe a few more pounds, a little 180 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: less hair, but the same people because they know what 181 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: they believe. That's why it's really important for you to 182 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: think through your beliefs and think through what you believe. 183 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: I think you'll, you'll. I think if if you're new. 184 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: To my voice, maybe you want to go find me 185 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: because this is the stuff I talk about on my 186 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: old podcast. 187 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Just listen to yourself. 188 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: I don't make new episodes of it anymore, but it 189 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: is a great primer for digging into your own ideas. 190 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: You need to know that because the landscape's always changing, 191 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: the landscape escape's always shifting, and now that we've welcomed 192 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: the entertainers into conservative politics, it's definitely going to feel 193 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: like a roller coaster. It's definitely going to feel up 194 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: and down because these people are not dedicated to the cause. 195 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: They're dedicated to their bank balances. Again, that's fine, that's 196 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: not a condemnation. That's not a judgment. They are entertainments tainers. 197 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: This is their job. 198 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: But that means that their job comes first, right, not 199 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: your beliefs or guiding you or leading you. They're not leaders. 200 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: These people aren't in the streets. They might show up 201 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: to a big rally or event every now and then 202 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: to lend their voices, but they're not knocking on doors. 203 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: They're not making the candidate call. Right, They're not you. 204 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: So you need to know what you believe. All right, 205 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: we got to take a break. Let's take a break. 206 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: I want to come back. 207 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: I want to tell you the Democrats met here in 208 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: California last week. They had their national convention and my 209 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: friend John Fleischmann went and he brought back some interesting observations. 210 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to read to you what I think you're 211 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: going to be tickled at what's going on at the 212 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: Democrat Party this year. I'm here Davis filling in for 213 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: Tony Kats and this is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back 214 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: everybody to Tony Katz today, Mary Christmas, Happy New Year. 215 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: I'm Curre Davis filling in for my good friend Tony. 216 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: He is off today. Today is Friday, December twenty sixth, 217 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: Come into you live from Southern California. 218 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: Rainy, rainy, gray Christmas this year for us here in 219 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: southern California, we don't deserve the sun here. We're a 220 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: real problem for the rest of America. And I realized 221 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: that we realize that those of us that still have 222 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: some common sense here and we know, you know, there's 223 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stories coming out of California. 224 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 2: It's a real problem. One of the big stories is 225 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: this truck or scandal. We're realizing how many commercial driver's 226 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: license we're just giving away to unvetted illegal aliens here 227 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: in the state. And the problem is that they don't 228 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: stay here right they're over the road truck drivers, and 229 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: then they spread out into the rest of the country. 230 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: And that is a symbol of exactly what is happening 231 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: here in California. 232 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: Period. 233 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: We muck up everything and then we send it out 234 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: to you. That's why you can't give up on us, 235 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: And this is why you can't just sort of be like, well, 236 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: you guys, just get what you deserve. We're not going 237 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: to care about California. No, No, you should be very 238 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: concerned about what goes on here because we're a free country, 239 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: and that's a problem for the rest of the free states. 240 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: When we're shipping our madness to you, we're outsourcing our 241 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: madness to you. This is why Gavin Newsom is fighting 242 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: so hard. Listen, this is only my opinion. I have 243 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: no hard facts or evidence to prove this, but I 244 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: think that govin newsen is trying to stay out of jail. 245 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: That's what I think, because I'm starting to see I can't. 246 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: I know. 247 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: If you're like me, you've been going all right, President Trump, 248 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: we want to see some arrests. We want to see 249 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: some consequences paid for this voter fraud. 250 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: But this is going to take a lot longer to 251 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: put together than. 252 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: People think, because it's a big mess, and it is 253 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: far and it is wide reaching, and there are people 254 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: who are going to go to jail. I actually believe that, 255 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: and a lot of them are going to be from 256 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: here in California. And I think if we get to 257 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: see real justice, because what I'm skeptical about, I'm not 258 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: skeptical about arrests. I do think that Trump administration plans 259 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: to make arrest I'm skeptical about the quality of those arrests, 260 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: right about the level of those ares. I want to 261 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 2: see some names in handcuffs. I want to see Newsome 262 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: on a purp walk, Fauci on a purp walk, Bolton 263 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: on a purp walk. That's I think that's what we 264 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: want to see, and I believe we could see that 265 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: with a guy like Gavin. 266 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: That's why they're fighting so hard. Do you understand, That's 267 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: why this is war. 268 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: That's why they're We're going to play the Minneapolis mayor, 269 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: the Mayor of Minneapolis later talking about basically daring people 270 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:36,119 Speaker 2: to kill ice. These they're not doing it by accident, 271 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: and they're not sort of just ignorant and you know, 272 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: just people who want the best with good intentions. 273 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: They're not. It's war. 274 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: And the reason they're fighting so hard in the streets 275 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: is because they know it's war. And if we win, 276 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: they're going down and the entire system gets exposed, and 277 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: we're going to find out that indeed we have been 278 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: living in the trumans. This isn't even a fifty to 279 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: fifty country, y'all. 280 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: It's not. 281 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: This is not a fifty to fifty country conservative slash 282 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: centrist Republicans. Everybody's to the right is a majority, that's 283 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: all say that the left is the minority. Did you 284 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: ever think that we would ever say, Oh, Minnesota is lost. 285 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: Minnesota is a liberal paradise. Minnesota, it's a plan. 286 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Y'all need to pay attention to what's happening in Oklahoma 287 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: right now. Be paying attention. 288 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: No, you're not because you think it's Oklahoma. It's just 289 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: Oki dogs out there, bunch of Doomi's red neck. No, 290 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: Oklahoma is in the middle of. 291 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: A Marxist takeover and it's bad. Let me tell you something. 292 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: It's bad. 293 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: They've infiltrated the Republican Party there, so you we all 294 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: need to be paying attention. All of this is on purpose. 295 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: They've bled into a red states and they're slowly shifting 296 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: the cultures and we need drasticccepts at this point if 297 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: we don't want to end up like Europe. We have 298 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: no more time. Actually, we have no time to be nice. 299 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: We have no time to be nice. We had to 300 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: deport everybody I wanted to read. I'll start We're going 301 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: to go to break in a minute, but before we do, 302 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: I'll start that the DNC had their conference here in 303 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: LA and my friend John Fleischman you can find him 304 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: on so does it matter on substack John Fleischman. He 305 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: said the mood there did not be lie is not reality. 306 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: Beneath the selfie speeches and celebratory tone, the LA gathering 307 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: revealed a party still wrestling with its unsolved, unresolved problems. 308 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: He said. 309 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: He lists a number of inconvenient truths before we go 310 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: to break. I'll start with number one. The party is 311 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: still borrowing to get by. For all the upbeat talk 312 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, the Democrat the Democrat National Committee remains 313 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: in a weekend financial position. 314 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: The DNC recently. 315 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: Took out a fifteen million dollar loan to fund early 316 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: cycle operations, and unusually a large. 317 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Amount at this stage, while the RNC reported roughly ninety 318 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: one million in cash on hand at the end of 319 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: October compared to eighteen million for the DNC. Eighteen million 320 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: compared to the ninety one million for the RNC. That 321 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: leaves a gap of more than seventy million dollars even 322 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: before accounting for Democrat debt. Optimism is easy to project 323 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: in a ballroom. Borrowing tens of millions while trailing badly 324 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: in available cash tells a different story about institutional health, 325 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: and that's always been the case. As much as we 326 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: hate it, the truth is money is a is a symptom. 327 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: Money is a symptom of something, and where it's going 328 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: is a symptom. So Democrats, they were able to raise 329 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: a large amount of money in a short amount of 330 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: time for Kamila Harris a billion dollars and great, that 331 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: should be the sign of a healthy campaign, but it 332 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: actually wasn't. 333 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: It was the sign of desperation. And where'd it go? Lost? 334 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: Now they're in debt. 335 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the DNC raised a billion dollars in 336 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: less than three months for the worst candidate on Earth 337 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: in history and now they're in debt. Now they just 338 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: had to borrow fifteen million dollars. Kamala Harris is still 339 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: reportedly one hundred million in debt or more. It's incredible. 340 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: When you start to understand the amount of debt that 341 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 2: is flying around the political universe, you start to understand 342 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: politics better. We look at these people as rich and wealthy, 343 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: but they're not. They live paycheck to paycheck like the 344 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: rest of us, just their paychecks are bigger, so they 345 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: spend bigger. The Democrats are in trouble, and they're having 346 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: trouble fundraising and what do they fundraise off? Three things? Abortion, Trump, immigrants. 347 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: All right, we'll come back with much more of this. 348 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm Kiera Davis filling up for Tony Katz and you're 349 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 2: listening to Tony Kats today. Welcome back everybody to Tony 350 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: Katz today, Mary Christmas, Tony Katz is out. I'm your 351 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: guest host for the day, Kira Davis. You can find 352 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: me on x at Kira Davis go buy my book 353 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: Drawing Lines. White conservatives must begin to battle fiercely in 354 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: the arena of ideas and the Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, 355 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: posted his Quansa message today. 356 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: I guess Kwanza starts today. Happy Quansa. 357 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: Those of you who are new to my voice might 358 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: not know I'm black. And for a few years, my 359 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: stepmom made us celebrate Kwansa. When I was a teenager, 360 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: maybe about four or five years, we lived in Washington, DC, 361 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: my stepmom and dad. We had to do Kwansa. We 362 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: hated it. We hated it. It is the nothingiest holiday. 363 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: When you're celebrating it, you feel like it's made up. 364 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: You really do. 365 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: Even the people we went to a few celebrations, and 366 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: you know, we had our African garbon and we did 367 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: all the Each day it's like conic on, you know, 368 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: each day has a little meeting and you give a 369 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: gift and some of the principles are cool, like they're 370 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: kind of fun, but they're communists, you know, community and 371 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: like social giving all of this stuff, it's all rooted 372 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: in communism, which you know, no wonder it feels so soulless, 373 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: which is incredible, right, only the Marxist could bleed soul 374 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: out of a black. 375 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: Experience, but they managed to do it. We hated it. 376 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: Hated it me, my stepbrother and my baby sister. We 377 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: hated it. Kwansa. 378 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: It feels made up, and when you're celebrating, you feel 379 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: like you're celebrating something made up. 380 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: Good riddance to happy Kwansa, I. 381 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: Think again, going back to my post on substack today, 382 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: just get out there and say Merry Christmas, and that's 383 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: all we need. And if you want to throw in 384 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: happy Hanukkah, that's fine. You know that's fine too. Happy 385 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: holiday is fine the rest of it. 386 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: Leave it alone. 387 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: If you want to celebrate Kwansa in your community, fine 388 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: do it. It's not national holiday, it's not even the 389 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: state holiday, and barely anyone in your city cares about it. 390 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: The only reason they put it in our faces is 391 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: to remind us that quote diversity is our strength, but 392 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: it's not. 393 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: And quansa sucks. So that's my QUANSA message for you. 394 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: Before the break, we were talking about the DNS see 395 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: here in LA. My friend John Fleischman covered it and 396 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: he had some fun observations about it, and I thought 397 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: you might be interested to hear some of this too. 398 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: It's John Fleischman. His substack is so does it matter? 399 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: On substack? And he said he discovered that the party 400 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: is still very much in debt and that matters. So inconvenience, 401 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: he listed some inconvenient truths. Inconvenient truth number two, off 402 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: year winds don't equal a national mandate. 403 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: I thought this was a very good observation. 404 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: John says Democrats deserve credit for outperforming expectations in New 405 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: Jersey and Virginia. Those winds matter, but they also came 406 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: in states Democrats were favored to win during an off 407 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: year with low voter turnout and highly localized dynamics. Converting 408 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: those results into a durable national message, especially in swing states, 409 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: remains an open question not a set conclusion. There are 410 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 2: eleven long months before the midterm elections. I feel me 411 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 2: take a sip of water here. Sorry, I feel the 412 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: same way. I get it that we were sad. You know. 413 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: I had really hoped that when some series was going 414 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: to pull it off in Virginia, and I had really 415 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: hoped that the Trump winning streak was going to extend 416 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: into these special elections. 417 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed, but. 418 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 2: I didn't really understand the devastation from the right on it. 419 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: These all blue states, all blue races, and special elections 420 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: are different. 421 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Now, I did. 422 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: Think it was good to take it as a red 423 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: flag as a warning that here are areas Republicans really 424 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: should be working on local politics and special elections. Democrats 425 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 2: poured tons of money, and I think it's actually a 426 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: good sign when you look at how much money Democrats 427 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: poured into these elections. The Wisconstant Supreme Court race, which 428 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: is going to have some bad consequences down the road, 429 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: not yet, but it's coming outside money. I think they 430 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: poured one hundred and fifty million dollars into that race 431 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: and they and they barely won it. But the fact 432 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: that they had to pour so much money into it 433 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: to win. They did the same thing in Virginia, a 434 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 2: lot of outside money. Same thing with that Tennessee special 435 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: election race, right, And then what happened is because Democrats 436 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: were pouring so much money into it, Republicans did the 437 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: same thing. Then Republicans came in and said, oh, we 438 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: got a rally around this Republican in the special election. 439 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: They had them on Fox News, who's on News mex 440 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: who's on all the big broadcasters. The Republicans circled the 441 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: wagons in this special election. Otherwise they would have left 442 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: it alone. So it's a red flag to say, hey, Republicans, 443 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: you need to get it on this game too. You 444 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: need to be paying attention to what's going on in 445 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: the local councils of Oklahoma too. Michigan has overrun everyone. 446 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: Michigan's been overrun by the Muslims, got entire Muslim towns there, 447 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: and they're just sitting there quietly. 448 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: Springfield, Ohio. That situation was going on for years before 449 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: we found out about it. All of these. 450 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: Pockets are sitting in our little rural areas and only 451 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: the people there know about it, and we're not talking 452 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 2: about it, and we won't know until the cancer spreads. Well, 453 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: we're lucky enough to have social media. Now we're lucky 454 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: enough to have to add elon musk buy x and 455 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: make it a free speech platform where we can share 456 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: these stories. We're starting to see these things in ways 457 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: we've never been allowed to see them before, and we're 458 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: seeing that the enemy is inside the gates. 459 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: So I do think that it's. 460 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: It matters that we start paying attention to these local 461 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 2: elections and the national Party start putting resources towards it, 462 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: and the activists, the national activists start putting their resources 463 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: efforts towards it as well. 464 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: The Muslim thing is a problem. I think I'll save 465 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: it for next hour. 466 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: It's actually a real problem, and I think we're going 467 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: to have to take real and drastic solutions to deal 468 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: with it. I don't think we're in a I don't 469 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: think we're in a situation where we're going to elect 470 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: our way out of this. Unfortunately, I'll get to that 471 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: next hour. Let's go on to inconvenient truth number three 472 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: that John Fleischmann pointed out when he attended the Democrat 473 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: National Convention in la last week. Number three, everything is 474 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: too expensive is an awkward message for a party making 475 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: things expensive. Democratic leaders repeatedly emphasize that Americans we're struggling 476 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 2: with the rising costs, A concern is real and widely shared. 477 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: The complication is that Democrats govern most of the country's 478 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: largest states and cities, the very places where housing, energy, 479 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: and taxes are often most expensive. A message build a 480 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: ground affordability inevitably invites voters to ask who has been 481 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: writing the rules. Gavin Newsom was front and center at 482 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: this confab, and we've documented how unaffordable the policies he 483 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: supports have made California relative to other states. Again, why 484 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: you need to pay attention to what's going on here. 485 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: Don't just yell at us California's on X when we 486 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: complain about our government. Don't just be snarky to us. 487 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: You can be snarky to the Libs. We don't like 488 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: them either. 489 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 490 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: You can go ahead and make make fun of the 491 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: progressive lefties here on the left coast. 492 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: That's fine, but the rest of us be kind. Please. 493 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: We're fighting so hard, and I know your solution is 494 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: to just move, but we're doing that. Is that what 495 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: you want? We are doing that. 496 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: We're moving out of California and we're making your lives miserable. 497 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: Maybe you should help us keep California healthy so that 498 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: the weirdos stay here and don't come to you. I 499 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 2: don't have any control over the weirdos that come to you. 500 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: Everybody I know you keep telling me this. 501 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: Tony Kats listeners contact me all the time to tell me. 502 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: If you guys are moving to the Midwest, don't take 503 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: your values with you. Tell those people don't vote for 504 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: the same things that made their lives miserable. 505 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: I can't tell them nothing. They don't live here. They're 506 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: your problem now. This is why I'm saying. 507 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: They're coming to you whether you like it or not, 508 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 2: and they vote whether you like it or not, and 509 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: whether you like it or not, we don't get to 510 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: tell them how to vote. So my suggestion to you, 511 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: mister Midwest, miss Florida, miss Texas, is to start getting 512 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: on your city councils and all of the panels on 513 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: your government and all of those things. You can get 514 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: a point of four and the school boards. Start running 515 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: for those things now. Because progressives love government and they 516 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: love meetings. So first thing you're going to do when 517 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: they come to your neighborhood, they're going to get on 518 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: your school board and you're just gonna go, oh, good, well, 519 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: someone else is doing it. 520 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: I'll have to bother with it and keep living my life. 521 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: No, and then you're gonna be surprised in two years 522 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: when someone's teaching little Sally that she can be little 523 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: Johnny in kindergarten. If you don't want California's coming to 524 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: you and reakan havoc in your local government, you best 525 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: get on your local government. Now we're coming. And liberals 526 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: love meetings. What can I say? They're the conference called culture. 527 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. We got a lot 528 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: more when we come back. I'm Kia Davis filling it 529 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: for Tony Kats and this is Tony Kats Today. Welcome 530 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: back to everybody to Tony Katz Today. I'm your guest host, 531 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: Kia Davis filling in for my good friend Tony. 532 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: It's the Christmas season that you're be Christmas is here. 533 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, everybody. I'm Kia Davis. You can follow me 534 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: on x at Kira Davis. K I go hit up 535 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: my Instagram at just Kira Davis. Joust Kira Davis filling 536 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: in on the holidays for my friend, and we're talking 537 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 2: about the DNC. 538 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: Did you even know? Did you even know that the 539 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: Democrats had a national conference last week? I didn't, and 540 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: I live here. I didn't know. 541 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: I kind of suspect they didn't want you to know. 542 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: So my friend John Fleischmann went and he's been reporting 543 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: on what he saw there, and he listed a bunch 544 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: of inconvenient truths that he saw. 545 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: While he was there. And I've been reading down this list. 546 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: Number four, the party's deep bench was missing, he says. 547 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: For a party celebrating renewed confidence, the absence of many 548 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: of its most recognizable leaders was hard to miss. Senate 549 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Bernie Sanders, 550 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: AOC Liz Warren, several governors routinely described as future national 551 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: figures were nowhere. 552 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: To be seen. Excuse me? 553 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: Also absent, where some of the parties knew, were left 554 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: facing standard bearers, including New York City's mayor elect Zoron 555 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: Mom Donnie and avowed Democratic socialist whose rise reflects where 556 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: many activists want the party to go. If this gathering 557 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: was meant to showcase democratic leadership, the roster fell felt 558 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: thin and carefully manage. 559 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: That's crazy to me, that's crazy nobody. That's why you 560 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: didn't hear anything. Nobody was there. 561 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: They had a national conference and none of these people 562 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: were there. Something's going on, and it's at the top, 563 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: and it's the same thing is happening here. You know 564 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: what's going on everybody. Same thing's going on on the right. 565 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: You know what this is not. This is not an 566 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: ideological or how do I say this? This is not 567 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: an ideologically exclusive battle. I'll say that. So this is 568 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: not a battle of the right. You know, it's not 569 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: the right that's having this problem. Oh, it's the anti 570 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: semis versus versus pro Israel. Or it's not the left. Oh, 571 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: it's a progressive versus the traditional liberals. This is global, 572 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: This is a we are in a global war. 573 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: It's the elites versus the rest of us. 574 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: So what you're seeing happening in the Democrat Party is 575 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: the exact same thing that's happening on the right. Have 576 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: you paid attention what's going on over a heritage foundation. 577 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: Mike Pence just started a new think tank. I think 578 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: it's called Americans for Freedom aff something like that, But 579 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: it's a heritage style thing. Tank and they actually poached 580 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: a bunch of Heritage people. It's still going on today. 581 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: They've got a huge investment nut over there. And I 582 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: know you've seen some dust ups at Heritage, right with 583 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: Kevin Roberts over there, he said some things that people 584 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: maybe interpreted as leaning towards anti Semitism. I honestly didn't 585 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: pay close enough attention to have a real opinion on it. 586 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: All I know is I've never heard this kind of 587 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: problem coming out of Heritage. Ever. 588 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: What's happening over there is the same thing that's happened 589 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: what's happening over here on the right is the same 590 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: thing that's happening over there. What's happening on that TPUSA 591 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: stage is the same thing. And just because you know 592 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: all those people and they're very aggressive conservative voices, don't 593 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: think that they're not the elites. 594 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: They are. These are the million dollar earners. 595 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: This is a battle between the elite wing of politics 596 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: and the rest of us, and we're fighting to decide 597 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: who gets to be who gets to be the most influential, 598 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: We're fighting to decide who matters the most, and the elites, 599 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: whether you've been at the top here on the right 600 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: of the heap with the Megan Kelly's and the Fox 601 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: News crew. Whether you've been at the top here on 602 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: the right or the top on the left with the 603 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosis and the Jake Tappers, it's the same thing, 604 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: though their ideologies are different. I don't want to pretend 605 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: that these people are fake and what they believe they're not. 606 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all. But they figured out 607 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: a way how. 608 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: To be entertainment, how to make a living off of 609 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: what they believe, and go from there. They are the elites, 610 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: and they're arguing right now over who gets to be 611 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: the most influential, And you get to decide that for them, 612 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: not them. 613 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: You get to decide. 614 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: You get to decide who's going to be your guiding star, 615 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: your true north, who you're going to listen to. 616 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: You'll kier Davis. I read the word, I. 617 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: Listen to God, and then I have when I want 618 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 2: to know about the politics of man. Then I have 619 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 2: some trusted voices that carry weight with me, but they 620 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: don't decide for me. Ever, I trust Tony. When I 621 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 2: have questions, I'll call Tony. 622 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: Think about this. 623 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: I'll call my friend Kurtchlicker. I'll call people, find out 624 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: who you trust and start there. All right, we'll be 625 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: back after the break. I'm Carre, David's filling it for 626 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: Tony Kats and you're listening to Tony Katz today. 627 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas.