1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Now, Eddie, I'm going to begin with a question for 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: you today on this glorious, glorious Friday that my phone 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: told me was going to be rainy, but then I 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: realized the rain was probably from like midnight to twelve 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: fifteen am. It was a council today. Yeah, I mean, 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: can we get a disclaimer with these things? Right when 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: it's like ninety percent chance of rain on Friday and 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: you're like, well, yeah, I mean if it's at two 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: in the morning, sure, I was still awake, mind you? 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: Uh? 11 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: Is it a warman? Here? Is at me? 12 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 4: It is a little toasty, like I told you, was 13 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 4: that yesterday or two days ago when you asked me 14 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 4: what that ruckus was and that I was picking up 15 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 4: on my mic is because it was like a sauna 16 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 4: over here in the studio. 17 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: Do you recall that? Yeah, you mentioned it's a little toasty, right. 18 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, But it turned on the AC yet and things 19 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: are warming up just a little bit in terms of 20 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: news with the colts that we will get to on 21 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: this Friday. But let's begin by saying good afternoon to 22 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: you and thank you for tuning in. My name is 23 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Jake Querrey. You just heard from Eddie Garrison. It is 24 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Quarry and Company here on ninety three five and one 25 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: oh seven five the fans speaking of up and gorgeous outside. 26 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: I thought about this today when I was walking in. 27 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's a little you know, precipitation that 28 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: still lingers around a little bit, but the temperature is great, 29 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: and I thought, man, what a perfect time to get 30 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: out to the range and get into the swing of 31 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: things which you might want to do in order to 32 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: get prepared for our invitational coming up April thirty at 33 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: the Fan Invitational Golf outing to benefit our friends at 34 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: Franciscan Health and the Franciscan Health Foundation, all at the 35 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Legends Golf Club down in Franklin. 36 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 3: We'll all be there. It's gonna be a great day. 37 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: And the early bird today is the last day to 38 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: get twenty five dollars off per person, one hundred dollars 39 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: off per foursome one oh seventy five. 40 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: The fan dot Com is the website. Eddie. 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little fatigued today. I'm gonna need you to 42 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: bear with me. Okay, I'm going to need you to 43 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: have a heart. Not because I switched to Senka. Okay, 44 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: I was. 45 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: Up early this morning. 46 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Thank you to ava'connell and the great staff at West 47 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: Clay Elementary School for having me out for part of 48 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: National Reading Week and reading the first chapter of a 49 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Judy Bloom book to the kids. It was not Forever, 50 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: Don't worry. I read Sheila the Great. I loved, loved 51 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: reading when I was a kid. I loved all of 52 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: the Judy Bloom books. And they were great kids. Now 53 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: this part is so I read a chapter to the kids. 54 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: I told them why reading is important and why I 55 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: enjoyed it at their age. And then they they had 56 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: been told that what we do for a living, right, 57 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: of course, I had to explain to them what radio is. 58 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: And then they said, any questions from the kids, I see, 59 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: I'll take questions from the kids. 60 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: Do you want to know? 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: And I The first kid asked, you know, what's your 62 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: favorite sport? Who have you ever interviewed? And then the 63 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: third kid asked this question, are you ready? 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: Sure? Are you ready for this? So you know, you 65 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: get your typical stuff right? 66 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Have you ever met Peyton Manning or you know Tyre's Halliburton, 67 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: or you know who's your favorite team? 68 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: Who's your favorite sport? Where? 69 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: So I'm going around and I'm you know, and then 70 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: one kid, nice kid in the front row. So yeah, 71 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: do you have a question, He says, have you ever 72 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: been on a plane crash? 73 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: Excuse me? Have you ever been on a plane crash? 74 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: I feel like that was you, I said, every day 75 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: noon until three, feel free to tune in. 76 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: I feel like that's something you and us somebody when 77 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: you were that age. 78 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: I immediately thought of George Costanzo meeting Keith Hernandez. I'm like, 79 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm a little fatigue from that, 80 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: even though that was great this morning and doing that, 81 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: but also because I was up late last night thinking 82 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: about this situation with the Colts, and at about three 83 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: forty eight in the morning, I was staring at the 84 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: ceiling and going through my mind. 85 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: Is the news that and it's not a shock Eddie. 86 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: If you could, I'm going to ask you to find 87 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: the audio that we have, if we still have it, 88 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: of Chris Ballard talking about Zaire Franklin when he was 89 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: on with the morning show Guys at the Combine just 90 00:03:54,800 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: about a week ago. Because Zaire Franklin, according to multiple reports, 91 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: is one that is being shopped by the Colts. They 92 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: are in a situation where and I don't know that 93 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: you read too much into Okay, are they clearing cap 94 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: space immediately because they need to They know that they 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: need to sign this player or that player. This is 96 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: the time of year. NFL teams this time of year 97 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: undergoes spring cleaning. 98 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: They just do. 99 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: You go through your closet and you're like, okay, I 100 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: got to find I gotta make a little room here. 101 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 1: And you know, if I haven't worn the T shirt 102 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: in the last year, then it's going to have to 103 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: go out. And I think from an NFL standpoint, you 104 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: look at at this time of year players that you 105 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: are paying that truthfully are in a fungible position. And 106 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: by that I mean I don't mean that they are 107 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: not good players. But a Zaire Franklin, for example, who 108 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: has been a very good player for the Colts, but 109 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: is kind of at this point. I think what you 110 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: are paying for is somewhat of a situational player, and 111 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: by that I mean a lot of his statistics I 112 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: think are situational because of where he is and the 113 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: way the offense was generated towards him, and what he's 114 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: getting paid is the offense of the opposition. I mean 115 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: and I think the salary that he's on is probably 116 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: one that behooved more the administration before him, and now 117 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: that he's got a new decordinator that position, they may 118 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: say what I'm getting at is they may look at 119 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: Zion Franklin at no disrespect to Zira Franklin, and they 120 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: may look at it and say, we can get ninety 121 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: percent this production from a player that we would only 122 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: have to pay sixty percent that cost. So let's see 123 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: if perhaps we can't move and get out from underneath 124 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: this contract. And whether it be you know, a veteran 125 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: player that you're getting on the downside and a little 126 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: bit less expensive, or a rookie or a rookie contract 127 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: player that you're not paying as much and that frees 128 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: up then money that you can spend elsewhere. But knowing 129 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: now that Zire Franklin is apparently or allegedly on NFL Craigslist, 130 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: then you go back to what Chris Ballard said about 131 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Zire Franklin on this radio station some a week ago. 132 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 5: We'll see love Zaire. 133 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 6: I think like my relationship with him, he's very honest 134 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 6: and he's very strong willed. Darius was very similar Leonard 135 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 6: and usually good players are like that, So we'll see 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 6: how it plays out. 137 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: I'm a. 138 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 6: When football I'll tell you this, when football's over, Zaire 139 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 6: Franklin is going to be a star and whatever decides 140 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 6: to do in life. He is smart, he is extremely 141 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 6: mentally tough. He's everything you want in a in a 142 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 6: in a player in terms of makeup. So you're a 143 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 6: fan of the podcast, needless to say, Zaire and I 144 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: have had some some some discussions. 145 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: About the podcast. Look, here's what I do like. 146 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 6: I love that he's passionate about what could be next 147 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 6: in life. 148 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of the word next in there. Doesn't 149 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: mean that they they believe his career is coming to 150 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: an end. But I think Chris Ballard, when you start 151 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: talking about when you start when you ask a guy 152 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: what you what do you think of this employee, and 153 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: they start telling you everything about that person that they 154 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: like other than what it is in terms of their 155 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: job description, then it makes you wonder. But I think 156 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: it's possible that that that is not even necessarily a 157 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, immediately you say to yourself, well, that means 158 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: they don't like Zion Frankler. That means that they they're 159 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: they're freeing up money for Alec Pierce, whatever it might be. 160 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: And this is what as I was thinking about all 161 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: of that last night, here is the conclusion I drew 162 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and I give myself. I try to be I promise 163 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: all of you, I try to be consistent, because there's 164 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: nothing in the world that drives me more insane than 165 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: when I listen to a radio host that is adamant 166 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: about something on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and totally contradicts it 167 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: on Tuesday Thursday. 168 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: The two. 169 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: Laziest forms of radio communication are just speaking from the 170 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: hip without thinking it through ahead of time, or utilizing 171 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: the platform to just be little people. There are two 172 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: things that I just think are tired and probably why 173 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't have to get up at five in the 174 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: morning anymore. But with that said, here's where the latest 175 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: that I've thought about this where I stand on things, 176 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: and these things are fluid, admittedly, but in thinking about 177 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: the Alec Pierce Daniel Jones situation, and I know that 178 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: that is a subject that we have talked about almost 179 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: that nauseum for a week now, but it's very big 180 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: with this organization, and it's very big in terms of 181 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the direction that they might hedd and I don't know 182 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: if this was Chris Ballard's thinking. I don't know if 183 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: this is Chris Ballard's motivation, but I kind of understand 184 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: it if it was. And for a guy that's been 185 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: here a decade and is one UH playoff game and 186 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: has been pretty smug, It's not like I'm sitting here 187 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: writing down and scribbling down ways in which I can 188 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: justify or defend Chris Ballard. I don't like nor dislike him. 189 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean that personally speaking, I don't. 190 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: I don't. 191 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm not around him personally enough to have that sort 192 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: of an opinion, and if I did, it would it 193 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: should not impact the way that I decipher their game 194 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: plan and going about things. My understanding is that he 195 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: is from people I know, a really nice guy, So 196 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to defend him, rather trying to think 197 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: about what might be some of the motivation here. And 198 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: here is the conclusion I drew. I think it's very 199 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: possible that the Colts sat down and said, we have 200 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: a unique situation here. It is not often that the 201 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: two marquee free agents for any franchise happened to coincide 202 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: as being the front leading free agents at their respect 203 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: positions in the same offseason, and that's where the Colts 204 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: are right now. The Colts are in a situation where 205 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: their wide receiver free agent is the number one wide 206 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: receiver on the free agent market, and their quarterback free 207 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: agent is one or one a of quarterbacks in the 208 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: free agent market, even with his injury, and Alec Pierce 209 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: made it fairly well known before free agency began at 210 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: the end of the season that a big factor in 211 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: his coming back was going to be if Daniel Jones 212 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: was his quarterback. And I think it's entirely possible. Did 213 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard sat down and looked over all of the 214 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: scenarios and all of the money that would go back 215 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: and forth, And I think it's entirely possible that Chris 216 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: Ballard said, you know what, here's the deal. In order 217 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: to get Pierce to sign, the likely and safest scenario 218 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: for me will be to go to the free agency 219 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: of Alec Pierce with the assurance that Daniel Jones is 220 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: going to be his quarterback. But in order for that 221 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: to happen, it means that I will have had to 222 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: have signed Daniel Jones. And maybe, and I'm not saying 223 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: this is the case, but I think it's possible. Maybe 224 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard looked at it and said, you know what, 225 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: the part that nobody's talking about at cocktail parties is 226 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: that we don't know whether or not Daniel Jones was 227 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: actually starting to regress to his true colors, because, as 228 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: I've said on this show a million times, in life, 229 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: sometimes the success is found in living by the rule 230 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: and not trying to squeak by by the exception. And 231 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is a very good player, and he had 232 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: a season in New York where he was a very 233 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: good player. But there's a reason why a guy who, 234 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: on his pedigree has a season that says I'm a 235 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: very good player was then not only benched, but jettisoned 236 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: out of that franchise because he started to regress and 237 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: show the tendencies that made him a someday he'll be 238 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: a very good player kind of guy. And so the 239 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: Colts got him at a decent price, theoretically simply to 240 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: add veteran leadership and push their young rising quarterback. 241 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: He won over the job. Maybe they knew. 242 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: He was going to get the job, but either way, 243 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: he played at a very high level. And Daniel Jones 244 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: was a very good player. And then and chicken and 245 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: egg theory here that we can go back to, before 246 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: we knew of an injury that he had, he started 247 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: to show a little bit of the tendencies that led 248 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: him to become a formerly very good player that was 249 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: benched in jettison in New York. And then the injury happened. 250 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: So now we had a reason for it. Oh, I 251 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: understand now. The guy sold me this BMW for a 252 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: pretty good price, and I wondered why. And it was 253 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: running perfectly for five thousand miles and then all of 254 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: a sudden it started like kind of hiccupping a little bit. 255 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: But I took it to the mechanic and the mechanics said, well, yeah, 256 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. 257 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: Look at this. You've got two pistons that are corroded. 258 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: Oh okay, well once those are fixed, then this we 259 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: think this is going to be just fine again perfect 260 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: then okay, But is it possible that Chris Boulard looked 261 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: at it and said, in order to be able to 262 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: have the conversation with Alec Pierce, I'm going to have 263 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: to commit long term, big money to a quarterback that 264 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: I would rather maybe do a one year deal with 265 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: because I'm not going to say it to anybody because 266 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to derail his confidence and I don't 267 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: want people to lose confidence in me or the direction 268 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: of this franchise. But instead of signing Daniel Jones to 269 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: a multi year deal, I can wait and simply give 270 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: him a tag that only commits me to money for 271 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: one year, to make sure that I'm getting the BMW 272 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: that still is running really well as opposed to the 273 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: one that started rattling a little bit. And so that's 274 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: going to come at the cost of having solidarity to 275 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: present to Alec Pierce, because if I want to go 276 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: to Alec Pierce and retain him, then I would have 277 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: had to beforehand, given multiple years and committed them to 278 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. And maybe I'm not saying it's the case, 279 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: but it's possible. Maybe the Colts said to themselves, we're 280 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: just not ready to go there yet, and if that 281 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: means we lose Alec Pierce as a result, And this 282 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: is the part that I am willing to say. And 283 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion. I 284 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: don't know if people will consider me a hater. I 285 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: don't know people will agree with me. All I know 286 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: is it came to me during a brain dropping at 287 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: three point forty eight in the morning, when the epiphany 288 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: hit all of a sudden, I thought to myself, Alec 289 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: Pierce is a luxury. He's a luxury. He's not a necessity. 290 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: He's a luxury because they have other weapons. Jackson Smith 291 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: and Jigma in Seattle is probably a necessity because, yeah, 292 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: you had Cooper Cup out there that was getting like 293 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: a second lease on life a little bit, but so 294 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: much of their offense was based upon his unique ability 295 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: to be everywhere. Seattle doesn't have Tyler Warren that we 296 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: saw in the first half of the year before he 297 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: kind of hit that rookie wall. They don't have Jonathan 298 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Taylor you can spring free out of the backfield. They 299 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: don't have Josh Downs that's this floating amba that can 300 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: get in space and bail you out when plays are collapsing. 301 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: They don't have an Ashton Doolan. They do. 302 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, for the sake of what Indianapolis has, 303 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm illustrating it and Ashton Doolan that, yeah, he doesn't 304 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: play a lot, but when he does, he can once 305 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: or twice a game, get behind the defense and catching 306 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: the ball. That's you know, not as consistent. I realize 307 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: there are weapons on the Colts offense. And Alec Pierce, 308 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: as wonderful a player as he is, is there Every 309 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: year we do this, Every year we find the free 310 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: agent that you gotta have. I remember as a for 311 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: the Pacers the year that Jalen Smith Stick Smith, when 312 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: he was the one that was going into free agency, 313 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: and literally we're doing campaigns up in down Meridian Street. 314 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: They have to retain Jalen Smith. Do what it takes 315 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: to retain Jalen Smith. Hometown discount, Please Jalen Smith, buy 316 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: into it. And then they get him and you go, 317 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: he's okay, he's a good piece. You get caught up 318 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: when a guy is a free agent. You get caught up, 319 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: and you convence yourself of the fear and the paranoia 320 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: of what happens if you lose them, as opposed to 321 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: considering the reality of what probably happens if you retain them. 322 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: And Pierce is a wonderful player, and he's developed into 323 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: a really nice piece and a really nice weapon, but 324 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: is he really a critical piece and weapon for what 325 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: the Colts want to do offensively for every single play. 326 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: He may be, but is he the center piece? And 327 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is, yes, they might have financially 328 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: had the money to get him and get it taken 329 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: care of right now. But what if they looked at 330 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: it and said, but that comes at the cost of 331 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: making a long term commitment to something that we're still 332 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: trying to feel our way through now. This entire theory 333 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: and it's just that a theory. I'm not saying it 334 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: is fact. I'm saying, is it possible that all goes 335 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: out the window if tomorrow they announced they just signed 336 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones to a four year, one hundred and twenty 337 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: million dollar contract. But I do believe, and Eddie, I 338 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: think you probably disagree with me on this, And I mean, 339 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: this is no disrespect or discredit to the kind of 340 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: player Alec Pierce is. He is a unique, very skilled, 341 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: very intriguing upside player. But he is a player still 342 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: to me that feels like a luxury and not a necessity. 343 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: I would push back on that last part because every 344 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 4: offense needs a receiver that strikes fear in opposing defenses 345 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 4: down the field, because if you don't have somebody who 346 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: can do that, then all of a sudden, the issues 347 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: that were there for the Colts in twenty twenty four 348 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 4: t twenty five are back. And that's the receivers struggling 349 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 4: to get open and getst press man coverage, because if 350 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: you don't have someone that can beat you over the top, 351 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 4: you're just gonna line up press every cult receiver and 352 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 4: you're gonna bring those safeties down closer to the line 353 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: of scrimmage and next thing you know, you can't run 354 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: the ball. And so if you don't have someone that 355 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: you can have get. 356 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: Down the field to win, well all the time, I 357 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: get it, and I get it, But what would you 358 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: say it's going to cost to retain him? I thirty 359 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight to thirty. I think thirty will be the max. 360 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I think it'll be around twenty eight. There is the possibility, 361 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: not saying the probability, I'm saying it's possible that they 362 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: may look at it and say, you know what, we 363 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: have a number that we believe is his actual worth, 364 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: not the number it's going to cost to retain him, 365 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: but the actual worth, in other words, what it would 366 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: cost us elsewhere on the market to get someone of 367 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: the same skill set or equivalency. And the one thing 368 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: that I do think the Colts need to be aware 369 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: of and be cautious of is the fact that the 370 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: proof is in the putting, in the fact that it 371 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: does take receivers longer than most positions to reach the level. 372 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Alec Pierce is one of them that in 373 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: the beginning, we're like, man, when is this dude going 374 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: to get going? And you know, maybe Adie Mitchell. Adi 375 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: Mitchell might have been that guy. He's doing it in 376 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: New York, and he's doing it in New York and 377 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: literally has Uncle Rico throw into him. But nonetheless he's 378 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: putting up. But the point being, you have to be 379 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: a little cautious if you're saying we'll replace Pierce through 380 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: the draft, because we do know that that takes a while. 381 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 4: Which is a worse look Jake and the Colts' perspective here, 382 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: you keep Michael Pittman Junior on the contract that he's 383 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 4: currently on, setting to make twenty nine million dollars this year, 384 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: you let Alec Pierce walk and free agency for twenty 385 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: nine million dollars, which is worse slick. 386 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. If Alec Pierce goes, then Pittman 387 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: probably stays on that same contract because you're going to 388 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: do what because at that point you don't have to 389 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: necessarily restructure. I get what you're saying, but listen the 390 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: and that's Eddie. What you just said kind of makes 391 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: the point that I'm saying here in this regard, At 392 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: the time that Pittman signed that deal, no one was 393 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: thinking about the fact that that could be a financial 394 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: strain on them in the future. Because it was no 395 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: they've got to resign Pittman, even though he's you know, 396 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: look at how he's been a warrior, he's played hurt. 397 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: They got to resign him. 398 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: They need that weapon because you get caught up in 399 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: and you fall in love with and you become terrified 400 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: on what happens if you have to have change because 401 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: you didn't re sign someone. And I do think to 402 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: your point, and it's a fair one that Pierce brings 403 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: a skill set that is more unique than does Pittman. 404 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: But Pittman's case gives you a little bit of fair warning. 405 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Of My point is simply this, and I've always felt 406 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: this way, regardless of sport. More often than not, when 407 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: you have a free agent, very few guys that you 408 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: give big time money to because you're convinced that you 409 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: have to have them. Do you end up paying out 410 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: the life of that contract, because more often than not 411 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: you find out, Okay, we took a gamble with that, 412 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: but now we've got to get out from underneath it. 413 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: He's a wonderful player, and your point is well taken, 414 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: and I think that he is. 415 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: But again, I go back to. 416 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: That ability for Alec Pierce to soften that defense is 417 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: a luxury. I don't know that it's a necessity. And 418 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: if you're paying thirty million and you're having to restructure 419 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: someone like a Pittman, and may you know, get rid 420 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: of somebody like a Franklin, and you're having to suddenly 421 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: juxtapost things around, then at some point you have to 422 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: say to yourself, is this luxury? It is a necessity 423 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: if you have to do all of those things because 424 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: you feel you cannot live without it. 425 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 3: And that's the question. We have a ton to get 426 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 3: to today. 427 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: This discussion will be a part of it over the 428 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: course of the day, no question about that. Obviously, we 429 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: have basketball that we can get into. Kevin Bowen going 430 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: to join us on the program today. It is high 431 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: school basketball time. Kyle Nedrip halfway through the program Our 432 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: Franciscan Health, Feel Good, Good for the Heart Friday, A 433 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: really good story. It's a good story because it's about heart. 434 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: It's about heart, and it's about what happens when you 435 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: have sorrow of the heart and people that can turn 436 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: that into an expression of the heart. And I look 437 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: forward to that story coming up at two thirty. On 438 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: the other side. Last night, about two o'clock in the morning, Eddie, 439 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: who needs his beauty sleep after being up all night 440 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: for the Pacers game the night before, is suddenly sending 441 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: out an SOS bulletin. Every one of us that works 442 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: at the fan got the same text message. It was 443 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: sent on the fan group text messaging and it came 444 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: from Eddie, and he was absolutely fit to be tied. 445 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: And I thought, holy cow, we're three weeks away from 446 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball Opening Day. Eddie probably thinks because he 447 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: won our baseball bet a year ago, that means he's 448 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: got the first pick, and he wants to talk about that. 449 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he wants to talk about the fact the culture 450 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: or the Pacers excuse me, are still out West, or 451 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: his thoughts on the Colts and Alec Pierce, Zire Franklin 452 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: and then I read it and I said, you know 453 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: what Eddie screwed. 454 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 3: We'll let you know what happened next. 455 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: So, Eddie, during your mayhem last night, one of the 456 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: things that you forgot about on the group text was 457 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: to remind me that Rabbi's coming on right. 458 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my fault, no worries. 459 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: He's always a welcome guest to the program. He's on 460 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line. We will get 461 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: to Eddie's frantic evening in just a bit. But Jeff 462 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: rab John's joining us from peagues dot Com. Indiana basketball 463 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: with one left, and it's a big one. Jeff, I'll 464 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: begin with this. A pleasure is always to have you on. 465 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: Do you believe that this game with Indiana out Ohio 466 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: State is a make it or break it when it 467 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: comes to the tournament? 468 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they have to win it, or if 469 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 7: they don't win that one, I think they would almost 470 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 7: have to win the Big Ten tournament. So I think 471 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 7: it's you know, if they win it, I don't think 472 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 7: that puts them in. 473 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: I think they're. 474 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 7: Probably going to need one more, but it would be 475 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 7: a quad one win, so it really help their resume. 476 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 7: So yeah, I think they've got to win that one 477 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 7: or things get real, real, real. 478 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: Dicey, Jeff. 479 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: When you look at this team and you know Sam 480 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: Alexis was obviously outstanding against Minnesota, and the one thing 481 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: you know, we know Lamar wilkersons can score. You and 482 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: I have talked about this and Tucker Toes, you know 483 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: when he's able to get looks. We know that therees 484 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: can score, and he's been good on the glass as well. 485 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: But what is it that has given Darren Derees's offense 486 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: trouble in terms of trying to find that consistent third 487 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: scoring option. 488 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, I really think the issue is the talent level. 489 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 7: The guys play hard, There's there's effort and and intensity, 490 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 7: but I think the biggest thing is talent level. Like, 491 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 7: I think the two things that would really help them 492 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 7: is a more dynamic guard and then you know a 493 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 7: legit post player, you know, big ten level guy, like 494 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 7: a dude. 495 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 3: And when I say. 496 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 7: More dynamic guards, like it doesn't have to be great, 497 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 7: but more like like a boy there a blackwelve from Wisconsin. 498 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 7: People who can really shoot it and really break down 499 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 7: off the dribble. The only guy ABAN has who can 500 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 7: break opponents down off the dribble is Tayton Connorway, and 501 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 7: he does it here there. But also, you know, he 502 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 7: has some turnover issues. You know, there's times where the 503 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 7: passes just get a little too casual. But I really 504 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 7: think the biggest issue is I just think it's talent level. 505 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 7: You know, Connor Enwright plays his tailoff, give him all 506 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 7: the credit in the world. But if you have a 507 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 7: top twenty five type roster connor and writes the guy 508 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 7: who comes off the bench, that's just the. 509 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: Reality of it. 510 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 7: So yeah, I think to me, talent level is the 511 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 7: biggest thing that is differentiating this Indiana team from being 512 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 7: a bubble team and being clearly in the NCAA Tournament 513 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 7: at this point of the season. 514 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: When you watched Senior Night, Jeff Jeff rab Johnson's my 515 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: guest Peaks dot Com. When you watched Senior Night, did 516 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: it feel to you the same as it did in 517 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: the quote unquote old school style where you had guys 518 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: that have been there for four years and were ingrained 519 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: within the fabric of it. There's a reason I ask it, 520 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to lead the witness here. But 521 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: did you get that feeling that there was sentimentality for 522 00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: the roster? 523 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 7: No? No, And I think it's part of it is, 524 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 7: you know a lot of those guys that have been 525 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 7: on campus for nine months, right, you know, so it's 526 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 7: kind of hard to build, like fans need time usually 527 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 7: to build genuine fondness and attachment and fondness forward attachment 528 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 7: to players. You know, watching them grow is part of 529 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 7: what creates the attachment to the fans. And it's really 530 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 7: really tough just to you know, develop attachment in nine months. 531 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 7: You know, you can chair for them, you know, and all 532 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 7: that kind of stuff. But I don't know there was 533 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 7: I did not feel any sentimentality really appreciation for Yeah, 534 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 7: but not really there was no there's just what any 535 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 7: emotion to it. 536 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: You know. 537 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 7: I'm sure to work for the players because it's the 538 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 7: final home games, but it's not like guys who have 539 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 7: been there for four years. 540 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: Here's why I ask it, Jeff, And I know that 541 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: you know Ryan Carr well as well. You and I've 542 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: talked to about him, you know, the last time you 543 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: were on and I know Ryan, you know, we went 544 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: to college together, and I remember I remember one night 545 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: sitting in our apartment in college, and Ryan was recalling 546 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: the senior night of ninety three when you had Colbert 547 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: Cheney and Greg Graham in that group, and Ryan was 548 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: I remember him looking off into the distance and saying, like, man, 549 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: that was such a special night. And Ryan Carr is 550 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: now the guy that is duly responsible, along with Darren Debrees, 551 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: of building a roster in Indiana. Do you believe or 552 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: do you think that can today in today's college basketball environment? 553 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: Will Indiana somewhat target players in the crazy wild West 554 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: world that we're in, Jeff, will it be do you 555 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: think somewhat of a priority to get some foundation of 556 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: roster of players that are going to be there for 557 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: multiple years that you can quote grow with like you mentioned. 558 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, I think that is a very clear aim 559 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 7: and we're seeing it already. You know, they've got three 560 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 7: twenty twenty six nineties all national top eighty guys. But 561 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 7: when you look at you know, guys like Prince Alexander Moody, 562 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 7: you know, good player, four star guard comes out of 563 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 7: Bishop McNamara, Washington Catholic Athletic Conference out there in the 564 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 7: d C, same same league. Victor Oladipot came out of 565 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 7: line projects is a four year guy. So I think 566 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 7: they're you know, they're starting to get you know, guys 567 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 7: who can be their foundation pieces. And yeah, and I 568 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 7: and I know from talking to Ryan specifically about IU 569 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 7: that they do want recruit, retain and develop to be 570 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 7: a piece of the program. Yes, they're still going to 571 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 7: utilize the portal. Yes, they realize portal is going to 572 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 7: be really important next year because you know, they're just 573 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 7: it has to be. You can't in today's world just 574 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 7: get high school players and situations like you did you 575 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 7: know Tom Crane's first three years manager rebuild it all, 576 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 7: but there was no transfer portal. So yeah, they're going 577 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 7: to use the transfer portals, but they want to get 578 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 7: away from being total portal dependent. You know the program 579 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 7: Woodson's last two years was, you know, it was it 580 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 7: was totally free agent dependent. And that you know, if 581 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 7: you hit correctly, it can work. If you don't, if 582 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 7: you don't get the right mix, or if you get 583 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 7: a guy or two who really is just there for 584 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 7: the paycheck, that can create problems not only in the 585 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 7: locker room but on the court. It's hard to win 586 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 7: that way. 587 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: What would you, Jeff, how would you in a perfect world, 588 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: and it's just such an ever evolving, you know ingredient mix. 589 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: But in a perfect world, if you were to look 590 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: at it from what you've seen, you would want what 591 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: person of your roster to be original, commit we're growing 592 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: them guys, and what percent of your roster to be 593 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: there transfer portal, immediately able to get out on the guys. 594 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 7: I really think if I was I could wave a 595 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 7: magic wand I would want seventy five percent of them 596 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 7: coming from high school into my program. Maybe they transfer 597 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 7: in after the freshman year, but I would want multi 598 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 7: year guys. I would want to recruit, retain and developed 599 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 7: to be to be three quarters of it. And that 600 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 7: way you've got really really strong culture, you know. I 601 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 7: think I think that's one of the reasons that Purdue 602 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 7: has sustained, you know, a high level of play. They've been, 603 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 7: you know, a top four or five seed in the 604 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 7: NCAA tournament for I think like seven or eight NCAA tournaments. 605 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 7: You know, that's pretty significant as far as sustaining a 606 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 7: level of play. I understand they've had some upsets this year, 607 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 7: but they're upsets because Perue was really really good and 608 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 7: they got knocked off a couple of times. But I 609 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 7: think having a core is a big part of sustaining 610 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 7: your success. And I understand some programs have done it, 611 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 7: you know, more portal dependent, but you look at the teams, 612 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 7: who are you know, projected to be. 613 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: High seeds this year. 614 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 7: There are a lot of guys on those teams that 615 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 7: have been in those programs for multiple years. Again, I'm 616 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 7: not against transfers or anything like that. I understand the 617 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 7: Peace Center, but I would not want to have to 618 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 7: if I was running a program, I would not want 619 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 7: to be dependent upon the portal every spring to have 620 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 7: a good season the next year. I just think that's 621 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 7: I think that gets scary. I don't think it's uh. 622 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 7: I don't think it's a recipe for consistent, sustaining success. 623 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 7: And I think he gets to a point where if 624 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 7: you have a couple of misses, you know you can 625 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 7: you can blow a year just by a couple of 626 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 7: portal misses. You know. That's That's the thing where I 627 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 7: would not want. I would want guys like that, like 628 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 7: Indiana's got committed Chase Brandon, Boncarbola, Prince Alexander Mouey, Trevor 629 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 7: manhurts you know, those are kind of guys that I 630 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 7: would I would certainly target. 631 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: You know, Jeff brab Johns my guest peaks dot com. 632 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: He's on the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line. Jeff, 633 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: when you look at Indiana right now and you look 634 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: at this season, and as the analogy I've used all along, 635 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: this is a roster that basically looks like the. 636 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 3: TJ Max checkout line. 637 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: You know, I mean there's some really good bargains in there, 638 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: and then there's other stuff you're like, well, okay all 639 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: around out the purchase. Darren DeVries had to put it 640 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: together late. I get that. I know they need more 641 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: size for next year. 642 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 3: I know. 643 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about the areas where this roster 644 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: just has not you know, has had weakness. But stylistically 645 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: speaking and schematically speaking, what did we learn in year 646 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: one about Darren Devrees that is the reason people should 647 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: be optimistic about Indiana in his tenure. 648 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a really good question, Jake. I think a 649 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 7: couple of things. One there, they're definitely going to utilize shooting. 650 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 7: And you look at teams that advance in the NCAA 651 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 7: tournament and the mature of them shoot it pretty well 652 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 7: from three. Arizona this year is a little bit of 653 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 7: an outlier from that. But I think, you know, one 654 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 7: of the problems under Woody was they didn't take threes 655 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 7: at a rate that even really gave them a chance 656 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 7: to have good offensive metrics. And you know, when you're 657 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 7: out there taking long twos, unless you are the greatest 658 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 7: jump shooter in the history of the game, it is 659 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 7: not going to work. Your offense is not going to 660 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 7: be productive enough. So I think we've learned that they 661 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 7: do want a style that's very, very conducive to getting threes. 662 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 7: You look at the shot quality metrics and they're they're 663 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 7: way up there. That's why as shot quality, I understand 664 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 7: there's been some games where they haven't gone down. There's 665 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 7: difference between you didn't make the shot and versus you 666 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 7: took a bad shot. So I think they hunt threes. 667 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 7: They take a lot of good threes, They run a 668 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 7: lot of stuff that works well to get threes, and 669 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 7: I think games like the last game means Minnesota shows 670 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 7: that you know, they do have the ability to get the. 671 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: Ball into the paint. 672 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 7: And you know, Sam Alexis has had a good year, 673 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 7: He's been solid, but if you take that level, you know, 674 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 7: if you take that that position, the post, and all 675 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 7: of a sudden you you increase the talent level. You know, 676 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 7: games like he had against Minnesota aren't going to be 677 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 7: you know, one one off, you know, one of two 678 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 7: or three or four during the course of the season. 679 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: You canna have. 680 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 7: Somebody who can do it better or be more productive there. 681 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 7: So I think those are the things. And I also 682 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,959 Speaker 7: think you know, Darren was on the staff at Great 683 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 7: and when they kind of came up with the hole 684 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 7: try to score the first twelve seconds, you know that 685 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 7: there was a year there. I think they were going 686 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 7: into the n I T and they were tinkering with 687 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 7: some stuff and they said, well, let's try this, and 688 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 7: it turned out it worked really well. But you've got 689 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 7: to have a couple of athletic guards to that. 690 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they tried to do that earlier. 691 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: They could do it with Wilkerson, but then they figured 692 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: out pretty quickly, right like, well wait a minute, you 693 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yeah. 694 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 7: They're just not and you know, and Tucker to Tucker 695 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 7: is very skilled, you know, but he's not like an 696 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 7: athlete out there. He's not And he'll tell you you 697 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 7: know he's like, no, I'm an Baskale player, but I'm 698 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 7: not an athlete, So I think they would. I think 699 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 7: if they can get a higher level of guard, you know, 700 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 7: or multiple guys you know, to where there's real quickness 701 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 7: with the ball, I think they'd like to speed it 702 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 7: up a little bit more. But when you don't have that, 703 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 7: you just you really can't run. It's like that old 704 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 7: thing in football. You can't call, which can't block, and 705 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 7: so you can't run if you don't have five guys 706 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 7: who can run. 707 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: Jeff, there's a reason I keep bringing you back on man. 708 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: I always appreciate the perspective and all the insights about 709 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: Indiana basketball. And obviously you'll have all the coverage to 710 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: the Big Ten tournament as well, and you know what 711 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: goes beyond that for Indiana as well as recruiting in 712 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,479 Speaker 1: the off season. As this continues to develop moving forward. 713 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate the time as always. 714 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 7: Jack always enjoy talking with the brother. Well, we'll catch 715 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 7: up again soon. 716 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Jeff, rap John's joining us again. Java House, 717 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: by the way, Colbrew Coffee guest line. Use the app, 718 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: the Java House app and you can see their entire 719 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: menu there as well as their locations, their cafe locations, 720 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: and before you even go in ahead of time, it's 721 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: ready right there for you. And if the US used 722 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: to code Jake twenty five on the app, you're gonna 723 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: get twenty five percent off your order. All right, We're 724 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: going to maintain order for Eddie and his night last night, 725 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: Eddie's Wild Evening next. So I was a little off 726 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: on the time last night on our fan group text 727 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: it was one thirty eight am. 728 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 3: I was wide awake. I went and played. 729 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor's Indiana Sports Trivia last night. I actually didn't play, 730 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: but I went just to soak in the environment last 731 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: night at the Bulldog. I love the Bulldog. First off, 732 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: that goes without saying would you have one? 733 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 3: What's that? Would you have one? You know? 734 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to be braggadocious here. Yes, although there 735 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: was a team from Bill Brooks was there. It was 736 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: going to see Bill Brooks. Kevin Bowen was there. Kevin 737 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 1: tapped out early. I understand he's got to get up early. 738 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: But it was a ton of fun. Chiefs fan Steve 739 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: was there along with Brenda, which means our little dog 740 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: Milton was home throwing a party probably, but I was there. 741 00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: Maybe with Boo. 742 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: That's right, Milton and bou would get along, so you know, 743 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm there for that. And then I see my buddy 744 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: bulldog Bill and the whole group there and get home 745 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: and just was taking care of stuff and watching TV. 746 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: You know, I told you, I'm addicted to this new 747 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 1: British or not new, but new to me, this British 748 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: television show, that dating game where everybody's naked, naked and afraid. No, 749 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: it's called Naked Attraction. Oh and if you can get 750 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: past the lack of dental work, it's quite intriguing. 751 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 3: But it takes place in Britain. 752 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: So at any rate, I'm sitting there watching it and 753 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: suddenly my phone hit my phone and I'm like, what 754 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: in the world. I look and there's a desperate text 755 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: from Eddie seeking advice one eight am. 756 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 3: Well, now I noticed that nobody responded. 757 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: I was probably the only one awake, Jamie b might 758 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: have been up, but nobody responded to you. But would 759 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: you like to please inform the listening audience what it 760 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: was that caused your night to go awry? 761 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 4: I got locked out of my house. Okay, hold on, 762 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 4: I got locked out of my own home. How old 763 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 4: are you? Twenty seven? 764 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 3: Twenty seven? I'm gonna make a few notes. 765 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: Here a couple of issues here, don't and I don't 766 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: mean to divulge too much personal information about your life. Yeah, 767 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: but I'm seemingly thinking from previous conversations you live within 768 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: somewhat proximity of where your folks live. Correct twenty minutes. Yes, 769 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: Oh is that okay? I was thinking it was it's 770 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: John that lives next. 771 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 3: Door, right, Yes, Jamv and my parents are neighbors. Yeah, 772 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 3: so you okay, so you were locked out? Now is 773 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: this a. 774 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: You do not live in an apartment complex and or building? Right, 775 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: it's an actual house, actual house. Yes, so there's a 776 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: yard right, yes, okay, you know a lot of people. 777 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: One of the one of the common ways to avoid 778 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: such a thing is a Sullivan. You know Pat Sullivan 779 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: that we do the you know he does obviously the 780 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: show in wa wonderful guy. Any Sullivan Hardware, amongst other 781 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: places you can this is hear me out here. You 782 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: can take your key in and you say, yeah, can 783 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: I get a few copies of this made? And then 784 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: they put on it looks kind of like what you 785 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: had in wood shop and a guy puts on little 786 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: goggles and the wine and then boom, they bet you 787 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: got an extra key. Uh huh Okay, So that's an option. 788 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: But then, and this is where it gets tricky, then 789 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: comes the question where do you place said spare key. Now, 790 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: a lot of people they have a friend or a neighbor, 791 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and you say, hey, just out 792 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: of curiosity, can I lend you? 793 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 7: Know? 794 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: I trust you. The problem they're being eddy is we 795 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: know you only have one friend that's your buddy, Alec. 796 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: Now is Alec not trustworthy with keys? 797 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 7: He is? 798 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can trust him with keys. Yeah, you just 799 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: have not given him this responsibility. 800 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 3: I just have not given him a spare key to 801 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 3: the house. 802 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: So the other option is you can buy one of 803 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: these decoys. There are several of them. A fake looking 804 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: rock that seems obvious. I will admit that if I 805 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: was a bandit, I just going around neighborhoods looking for rocks. 806 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: Oh look, there's a perfectly symmetrical rock that looks plastic 807 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 1: that happens to be sitting on that person's patio. 808 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 3: That seems a little obbout. 809 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 4: I've also seen things on different you know services apps 810 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 4: or whatever where they have like these bird houses and 811 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 4: in the birdhouse there's a secret compartment for a key. 812 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's that's good. Now you got to hope 813 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: there's not a burden there that would ruffle some feathers. 814 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I know. Okay, yeah, we're very very funny. 815 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so what so what did you end up doing? 816 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: The other option is, of course breaking a window pane 817 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: and then reaching in, then you run. If you're in 818 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: my case, on the blood thinners, you could have a 819 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: real problem on your hands. 820 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 4: So your your primary question here is how I got 821 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 4: back into my home and not how I got locked 822 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 4: out of my home. 823 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: Well how did you get I mean I know how 824 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: you got locked out. You left the house, you locked 825 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: the door, and then you realize, oh the keys run, 826 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: I did. 827 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 4: Lock the door. Really yeah, this is this is where 828 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 4: the story is funny. I was doing some housework. I 829 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 4: was cleaning up and everything. I was like, oh, I 830 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 4: got to take out the trash trash canisal. It's like, okay, hey, 831 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 4: just let the dogs back into the house. And we've 832 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 4: got to Joey and Yogi. Yogi's a Corgi and Joey 833 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 4: is a Texas Blue Healer, which is an Australian shepherd 834 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 4: and a cattle dog mix. 835 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 3: And he's a mini and so Joey wait wait he's 836 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 3: he's from Texas, but a mini. That seems like I'm 837 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 3: not going to get everything's bigger in Texas. 838 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 839 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 4: Anyway, so, uh, Joey likes to go outside. When fore 840 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 4: I go outside? And I was like, no, you just 841 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 4: went out the grass in the yard is what I 842 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 4: just wiped your paws off. 843 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 3: I don't want to have to do all that again. 844 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 4: So I shut the door behind me, and so he 845 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 4: starts pawing at the glass. He gets down and we 846 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 4: have detached garage, so it's taking the trash a trash. 847 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 4: Can I come back to open the door? Door's locked. 848 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 4: It locks you out pawing at the doorknob. 849 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 3: To try to get outside, and he locked the doorknob 850 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 3: on me. Okay, well I listen, that'll teach you, right. 851 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 3: This was the Texas Fella, the other one, the Texas Fellaw. Yeah, 852 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 3: I mean, have you been to Texas? No? Yeah, people 853 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 3: there are very Actually, yes, I have been to Texas. 854 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 7: Yeah. 855 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 3: No, I don't know if you know this or not. 856 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: Texas was once part of a different country than during 857 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: the Old Southwest under James K. 858 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 7: Polk. 859 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: It was annexed Indi the United States. But there was 860 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: some friction going on there. People in Texas very very 861 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: strong willed, very proud folks, very you know what I mean, 862 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: ranger types. So not surprising at all if you weren't 863 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: doing what he wanted that he just said, okay, deal 864 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: with it. So locked you out? So your dog locked 865 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: you out of your own home. Yes, he locked me 866 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: out of my own house. 867 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 4: So I did call up Alec because Alec does live 868 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 4: within a close radius of my house. 869 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 3: It's like, hey, I'm locked out. 870 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 4: I gotta wait for one of my parents to get 871 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 4: home from work to grab the sparra key from their 872 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 4: house to get to my home so I can get 873 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 4: in my own house. And he said, well, I'm at 874 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 4: the gym, but you can go to Chicago's Pizza because 875 00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 4: they have nineteen since or Indian. 876 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 3: I looks he did say that. I did see him 877 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 3: say that. Yes, uh huh. 878 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this now, they're not opened 879 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: that late unfortunately, although I will say for Chicago's Pizza, 880 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: you still have thirty three minutes to get in for 881 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: their lunch. 882 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 3: But I do appreciate all the people. 883 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 4: They did reply to my tweet last night and gave 884 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 4: me suggestions on how to So how did you get in? 885 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 4: I waited for my mom and dad to come and 886 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 4: let me in with the spare key, thankfully, because we 887 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 4: had the detached garage, Jake, I had a spare pair 888 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 4: of shoes in the garage. 889 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 3: I was just in my socks when I walked out 890 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 3: to go take the trash out. 891 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: Soa on a time, didn't you moonlight in a place 892 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: that actually makes keys? Yeah, I'll be honest with you. 893 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: I had to endure nearly a decade of radio with 894 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: Derek Schultz. Yeah, And I thought at that time I 895 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: was working and I'm friends with Mike Byron. This guy 896 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: can't remember his passport when we go to anywhere outside 897 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: the United States. I thought those types were absent minded. 898 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: The dog, I can I get you there. But there 899 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 1: has to be Eddie, it wasn't raining when Noah built 900 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: the arc. There has to be a plan ahead of 901 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: time for future reference. So we need to make sure 902 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: that we're getting this taken care of for future reference 903 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 1: should it happen again, Like, for example, are the colts 904 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: in a situation now where they didn't think ahead of time. 905 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: I'd like for folks to tell me this at two 906 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: nine and ten seventy, and now's the time to call 907 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: in because it is a little bit of a talkback 908 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: Friday here, Daniel, Jones and Pierce. If you had to 909 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: pick one, which one's the harder to replicate? Which ones 910 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: is the harder to replace? And do you think Anthony 911 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: Richardson should still be in the conversation. I want your 912 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: cult's reaction. Other side two nine, ten seventy Kyle ned 913 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: rip Bottom of the hour, I mentioned this off the 914 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: top of the show. If you're just joining us, by 915 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: the way, even good afternoon to you. 916 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 3: Thank you, Eddie. 917 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 4: Joel Erickson is impressed with you, Jake. 918 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: By the way, listen, I mean, do you happen to 919 00:47:52,080 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: have the breaking news sounder? This just in, Eddie, he's 920 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: relaying what we've known forever. May I ask in what 921 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: way Joli Erickson's impressed by me? 922 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 4: Well, he thought that segment was incredible, the entire story 923 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 4: to build up and everything, and then he goes, oh 924 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 4: my goodness, he brought this back to the colts. That 925 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 4: was legitimately impressive. 926 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 3: That's what I do. 927 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Eddie was locked out of his house 928 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: last night, and the question becomes, is there a member 929 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: of the Colts that's going to find themselves locked out? 930 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: And I thought about this last night as we open 931 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: up the phone lines at two through nine, ten seventy, 932 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 1: and I know that we don't do that a lot 933 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: because I realized many of you at work during the 934 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,959 Speaker 1: middle of the day. It's a little different than drive time. 935 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: But is it possible that Chris Ballard had the foresight 936 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: to look at it and say, the key ingredient to 937 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 1: retaining Alec Pierce would be for me to go ahead 938 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: and sign Daniel Jones and know that I have that 939 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: locked in. So I can say to Alec Pierce, here 940 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: is what I have. I have a player in Daniel 941 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: Jones that you want is your quarterback. But given the injury, 942 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 1: and given the part that nobody's talking about at cocktail parties, 943 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: and that is the possibility that Daniel Jones was starting 944 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: to regress a little bit. Did the Colts say to themselves, 945 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: we have a little bit of hesitation here and we 946 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: want to see what's there coming off the injury, So 947 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: let's tag it for one year. And Alec Pierce may 948 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: become collateral damage in the fact that we don't want 949 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: to commit ourselves to four years and one hundred million 950 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: just to maintain a receiver that frankly maybe in a 951 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: very very good player in Alec Pierce. But is he 952 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 1: offensively a luxury as opposed to necessity? And as I 953 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: was thinking about it last night, I had the epiphany 954 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 1: that perhaps Alec Pierce while a wonderful player, and while 955 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: he does have the benefit in free agency of bringing 956 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 1: a skill set to the roster that is the least 957 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: replicated perhaps of any other player on the roster. But 958 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: is it still a position that you have to have 959 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: to win or is he a little bit of a 960 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: luxury in particularly when you look at maybe they restructure 961 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: the way that they want to move the football and 962 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: more incorporate Tyler Warren or you know, the different players 963 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: that they have to use. So two through nine, ten 964 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: seventy is the telephone number. Jevin is the first that 965 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: has called in. Hi, Jevin, how are you are you there? 966 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 3: Jevin? 967 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just wanted to call and say, uh, I 968 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 8: think Jake's the best guy on the Raco and I 969 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,720 Speaker 8: can't believe Eddie locked himself out, and his dog's probably 970 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 8: pretty smart and was tired of being around him. 971 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 1: Well, thanks, Jevin, I appreciate the call on that. If 972 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: you had to pick between Pierce and Daniel Jones, do 973 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: you prefer one more than the other. 974 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 8: Well, I don't know, but I do know that when 975 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 8: it comes to the radio show, I prefer Jake over Eddie. 976 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jevin. That's Jevin. 977 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: You've called the program. See that's how we easily we 978 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: do this, Eddie. This is why we open the phone 979 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: lines to the callers. Can you read more of what 980 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,280 Speaker 1: Joela Ericson said? Just out of curiosity, that's all he said. 981 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 4: You know, the incredible segment, Oh my goodness, Jake brought 982 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 4: it back to the colts. That was legitimately impressive. 983 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: Now see why would Joel send that to you and 984 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: not me? I mean, he knows that I'm the one 985 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: that's got the end of the beer fairy. I do 986 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: appreciate the compliment. Perhaps he thought it would make my 987 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: head a little too big. 988 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. Matthew is up next. 989 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: Eddie has the phone line picked up, so I don't 990 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: know in our new system if that means he can 991 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: patch through Matthew. We will find out, Eddie. Can you 992 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: patch through Matthew. Now he has no headsets on. This 993 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: is a well oiled machine. See, this is why we 994 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: do this sort of a thing on the regular. Can 995 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: you bring in Matthew, Eddie. There we go. Matthew, your 996 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: patience is rewarded. 997 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 3: How are you? 998 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 9: Oh, I'm well, thank you? 999 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: Okay, Matthew. I would like to know Daniel Jones or 1000 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,959 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce if you had to pick one over the other, 1001 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: which one do you think is more critical? 1002 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 3: Moving forward? 1003 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 5: Reluctantly, it's Daniel Jones. 1004 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 3: You seem non sold. 1005 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: Is that of the injury or because you think he 1006 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: started to show a little bit of a slip. 1007 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 2: Well, it's the injury for me. 1008 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 10: But I do think he's more important. 1009 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 8: Of the two. 1010 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 10: I just think the cost of keeping him, unfortunately, is 1011 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 10: going to be losing peers. 1012 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: By the way, Matthew, one time a highlight of my 1013 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: career was one time I interviewed David Letterman, who's a 1014 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,919 Speaker 1: hero of mine, right, and David Letterman, at the start 1015 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: of the interview, very sarcastically said to me, you know 1016 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: you have a delightful radio voice, which I then kept 1017 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,879 Speaker 1: that as my ringtone. By no means am I saying 1018 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 1: it sarcastically but seriously. But Matthew, you have developed a 1019 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: delightful radio voice. Just so you know, you have a 1020 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,919 Speaker 1: very soothing and delightful radio voice. But I think your 1021 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: thought on it is valid in terms of yes, the 1022 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: thought that Jones reluctantly, that's a good way of saying it. 1023 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: Jaythan is up next, Jathan, how are you? 1024 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 2: You have a delightful radio voice. 1025 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 3: Oh, it's lovely. 1026 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 2: It's if I had your voice, I'd still be working. 1027 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 3: I believe. Actually didn't one time. 1028 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: Who's the other one man, Kevin Harlan didn't he say 1029 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,479 Speaker 1: something also about my voice one time? But Matthew's voice 1030 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: sounds very smooth. But that is an outstanding poll there, Eddie, 1031 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: do we have Jathan? By the way, Jathan, how are you? 1032 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 9: I'm all right? 1033 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 3: How are things on the SpaceX rocket? 1034 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 9: Uh? 1035 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 3: Just it sounds like you're in a rocket? 1036 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: Clearly you're in the car Hands ten and two please 1037 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: if you could, But h I appreciate you calling in 1038 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the colts. 1039 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 11: I think we should have got Alex Pearce instead of Jones, 1040 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 11: because Jones two, he's not to me. I'm going to 1041 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 11: call you guys. Last year during when he got hurt, 1042 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 11: I already knew that was going to happen. He's just 1043 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 11: inured Tome. 1044 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: That is true. I mean, there's no doubt about that. 1045 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 1: And so Jathan, the question becomes, do you think and 1046 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that this is the case, Jathan, but 1047 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: do you think it's possible that the Colts said, you 1048 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: know what, we're not going to give Jones the multi 1049 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: year deal just yet, and Pierce would be the collateral 1050 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: damage for it. If that means we lose Pierce, so 1051 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: be it. But let's see what what he can do 1052 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 1: this year and see if he can stay healthy. That's 1053 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: the first question, Jaythan. And then the other one is 1054 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: if not Jones though at quarterback, who do you go with. 1055 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 11: That's a good question on that part too. They're not 1056 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 11: picking that, they're not picking everything through and they should 1057 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 11: have got rid of Bounder a long time ago, and 1058 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 11: in my opinion, the. 1059 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: Head coach, I don't think you're alone in that thought. 1060 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: By the way, Jaythan, where are you driving right now? 1061 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 11: I'm on seventy getting rid hit ten Street. 1062 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: Everything going okay, Everything smooth on the road, everything smooth 1063 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: on the Oh wait a minute, if you're going on seventy, 1064 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,919 Speaker 1: are you on? You're on seventy, and then you're gonna 1065 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: go sixty five southbound or northbound? 1066 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 11: I'll be heading north. 1067 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: Oh you could. You could be going right past us. 1068 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: I would have you wave, except for I want your 1069 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: hands at ten and two. But I can see so 1070 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: traffic from here looks pretty smooth, beautiful day outside. 1071 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 3: Drive safely though. 1072 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 11: All right, YouTube box roon. 1073 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Jath, I like Jathan. Jathan should be 1074 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 3: our official tenth Street correspondent, a different Matthew Alive. One question. 1075 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 3: You got a great voice, by the way. 1076 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 7: You should love your voice. 1077 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: Thank you? Can you play those back to back? Just 1078 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: out of curiosity? Ddy Letterman and Kevin Harlan give me. 1079 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 3: Like ten seconds real click and yeah, I can make 1080 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 3: that happen for you. 1081 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: We updated on the iPhone, by the way, and we 1082 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: have the twenty six point two now and it runs 1083 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: a little slow from time to time. 1084 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 12: All right, we have a delightful radio voice. 1085 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:24,800 Speaker 2: It's lovely. 1086 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 5: It's if I had your voice, I'd still be working. 1087 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 3: That's a great question. 1088 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 7: You got a great voice, by the way, you should 1089 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 7: love your voice. 1090 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 3: Okay, can you send those to me to put on 1091 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 3: my ringtone? All right? Other, Matthew, how are you? Matthew good? 1092 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 13: How are you guys doing? 1093 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 9: You know I'm doing. 1094 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 3: Okay. It's a beautiful day outside, is it not? 1095 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 7: It is? It is? 1096 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 14: Hey. 1097 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,919 Speaker 12: What I was going to add was just I think 1098 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 12: if they let Pierce walk and the ad Mitchell trade 1099 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 12: was really dumb, then they really got poor planning then okay. 1100 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 1: Fair and Matthew, you raised a very good point there, 1101 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,320 Speaker 1: because the Mitchell trade at the time felt inevitable. Maybe 1102 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: that was a little bit of a knee jerk reaction 1103 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: because of not one, but two bone headed plays that 1104 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: he had been involved in. 1105 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 3: But you are correct. 1106 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: Anytime you make a move, you have to have some 1107 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: sort of foresight as to what the implication can be 1108 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: from it down the road. And I think, to piggyback 1109 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: off what Jaythan was saying, Matthew, it does feel like 1110 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: some of the things they've done they have not thought 1111 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: about what the long term implication is going to be. 1112 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 3: Would you agree with that? I do? 1113 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 2: And I think. 1114 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 12: To me it's a weakness of Ballard that I think he. 1115 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 13: Has an it's confidence that borderlines arrogance that he's doing 1116 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 13: the right thing, and I think sometimes it leads to 1117 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 13: then where he's he leads down a path and doesn't 1118 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 13: really think it through. 1119 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair, and I do think. Look, 1120 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: fans are always going to be you know, it's like 1121 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: anything else. You're as good as your last game, right, 1122 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: And I appreciate to call Matthew when it comes to Ballard. 1123 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: If they get hot and they go to you know, 1124 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: let's say it probably would take at least the divisional 1125 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: round they got to win up playoff game. If they 1126 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: win up playoff game and everybody is getting together and 1127 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: going out and you know, going out to sports bars 1128 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: and packing it to watch the games and et cetera, 1129 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 1: if that were to take place, then probably all of 1130 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, Okay, well, Ballard now is a genius. 1131 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 1: But when you look at the other franchises that are 1132 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: out there and the way that they have been able 1133 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: to reprogram themselves, to reset their lineups, to alter the 1134 00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: way that they're going to do things, you know, there 1135 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: are so many different examples of other franchises that just 1136 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 1: over the course of time, they had the patience because 1137 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:12,439 Speaker 1: they had the direction, and I was never a fan 1138 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 1: from the get go of the Sauce Gardener trade. I 1139 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: know he might be a great player, but at the 1140 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: time I just thought I kept having visions of Fred 1141 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: Young dancing in my head and I'm going on the 1142 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: way back there. But when you give up two number ones, 1143 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: you are giving up a lot. That is a high 1144 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: price tag, especially now if you're in a situation where, 1145 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: let's say, for the sake of discussion, that they trade 1146 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones comes back from injury and 1147 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: really struggles, where is your quarterback option Riley Leonard? And 1148 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: I mean that is no disrespect to Riley Leonard. Riley 1149 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: Leonard is probably Jim Sorgie, solid player, really athletic with 1150 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: his legs and can roll out in get your offense 1151 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: going a little bit, but he's not a deep ball 1152 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: type threat. And do you win long term with that? 1153 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Dave can chime in on that or other perspective. 1154 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:13,919 Speaker 3: Hi, Dave, how are. 1155 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 15: You doing well? My question really almost is kind of 1156 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 15: I'm going to call it rhetorical in the sense that 1157 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 15: you had a coach down in Indiana and do something 1158 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 15: that was just shocking and yet you've had Ballard who's 1159 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 15: had ten years, and they hadn't done Diddley, I. 1160 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Know, no, I And here's the thing, Dave, ten years 1161 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:44,919 Speaker 1: in the NFL is eternity. It's eternity, right, and yeah, 1162 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: it's apples and oranges a little bit. I mean from 1163 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: college to the pros because in college you can revamp 1164 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: your roster overnight, which is what Indiana did. 1165 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 3: Let's be real here, Okay. 1166 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: But agreed, But the colts have had plenty of time 1167 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: to have figured you know. The I think the point 1168 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 1: that was just made by Matthew is a really good one, Dave. 1169 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: And the fact that I don't mean to pile on it, 1170 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 1: but it does feel like each move that they have made, 1171 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 1: they have not thought about the implication of it or 1172 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: what it could mean, you know what, I mean, what 1173 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 1: the long term impact of it could be. And that's 1174 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: that's the part that's frustrating and disappointing, because you just 1175 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: think to yourself, man, you know, I mean. 1176 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 3: That ad Mitchell is a good example. 1177 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: If you got rid of Adi Mitchell, did you think 1178 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: to yourself, boy, pierces on a contract here? And those 1179 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: are our two deep ball threats. So there are a 1180 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: lot of ways. There are a lot of layers to 1181 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 1: the onion, and unfortunately with the Colts, the more that 1182 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: you start to peel the layers back, the. 1183 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 3: Onion makes you cry. Ross. 1184 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 7: What's up? 1185 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 3: Ross? 1186 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:52,919 Speaker 7: Jake? 1187 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 3: How we have vide? You know? I'm good? Isn't there 1188 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 3: a clothing store something? Ross? Am? I often that? Do 1189 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 3: you know there is? I'm getting ready to drive right 1190 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 3: by it? Oh? Really? Now? 1191 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 1: What about? What about Ross and Babcock Travel? Shannon used 1192 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 1: to work at Ross and Babcock Travel. Do you ever 1193 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: do any travel with them. 1194 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 3: Back in the day? 1195 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 10: Yes, I'm an old I'm an old old hat. 1196 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 3: Do you get discounts at Ross and Babcock or the 1197 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 3: Ross Clothing store? Either one? Are you on Keystone right now? 1198 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 3: Near the Are you near the Glendale area? 1199 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 2: Now I'm on the east side? 1200 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 3: Okay, all right? Well what's on your mind? Ross? 1201 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 10: Hey, listen to one of the row out a. What 1202 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 10: I think is that not so crazy scenario? The New 1203 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 10: York Jets have about seventy four million dollars in cap 1204 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 10: space and they're missing a quarterback. And I could see 1205 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 10: a scenario where they make an offer to Daniel Jones 1206 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 10: that the Coats just can't match, and then they would 1207 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 10: fit nicely to add one Alec Pierce as a wide 1208 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,919 Speaker 10: receiver to compliment what I think is a really good 1209 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 10: offensive skill set group that they've got with the Jets. 1210 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,919 Speaker 10: So I think we've painted ourselves into a corner here 1211 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 10: that you know, it's a house of cards, it's getting 1212 01:02:59,040 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 10: ready to fall apart. 1213 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: Ross, would you be let me ask you this, if 1214 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce, and I don't know 1215 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: if they'd have the money for both, they may, and 1216 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 1: then you add adding you know, Adie Mitchell obviously ironically 1217 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 1: would be there as well. But you know you got 1218 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson that's already there. I mean, so you got 1219 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 1: some burners there right. Are you a season ticket holder 1220 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 1: or what is your level of cult fandom? 1221 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 3: Ross? 1222 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 10: Now, a previous season ticket holder really just kind of 1223 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 10: stepped away when you know about three years in a 1224 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 10: Ballard's tenure riding on the wall. 1225 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 1: So do you feel that they're kind of stuck in neutral? 1226 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? Basically? 1227 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 1228 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 10: And I think the Jets, with a big coach and 1229 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 10: with two of our first round picks plus two of 1230 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 10: their own, they're in a prime position to you know, 1231 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 10: make a move like this. 1232 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. Interesting perspective for sure. And the 1233 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 1: Jets are one team that we mentioned in terms of 1234 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: cap space, and they did make the most sense just 1235 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: because they they are in need of a quarterback, no 1236 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: doubt about that. 1237 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 4: But do you think Jones and his representatives are willing 1238 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 4: to go back there? 1239 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 3: That's the question to New York. Yeah, good question. I mean, yeah, 1240 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 3: it would be tough, right, he would be. 1241 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: He will get grilled in New York unlike any other 1242 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,560 Speaker 1: place he's been because you're going back even a different franchise, 1243 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 1: same same market. 1244 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 3: Right, Mike is up next, Mike? What's up? 1245 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 7: Hey? 1246 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 14: I got to take going back to last year when 1247 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,479 Speaker 14: they brush Sauce Gardener in, they get up two first 1248 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 14: round draft picks, and when that happened, that paved the 1249 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 14: way for him to keep balor because he had he 1250 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 14: got no quarterback bringing a new guy in. So now 1251 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 14: they bring Dan Daniel Jones in. So now he plays 1252 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 14: this deal of protecting Jones and not protecting the receiver. 1253 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 14: So now if if Jones doesn't work out, he can 1254 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 14: go back again and say he doesn't have he didn't 1255 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 14: have a quarterback. So without a Katon, I think all 1256 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 14: the trades and all the moves have been ballied, run scared, 1257 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 14: trying to save his job over the Colts. 1258 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 3: Mike, I got a question for you. How old a 1259 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 3: fella are you? 1260 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 14: I'm old? 1261 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 3: Well, no, I'm old. 1262 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 1: But here's why I ask seventies. Okay, how long have 1263 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: you listened to this radio program? And if you say 1264 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 1: it's only been in the last hour, then that's fine, 1265 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 1: I understand, But just out. 1266 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 3: Of curiosity pretty much since he came on, Okay, which 1267 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,959 Speaker 3: I appreciate, Mike. 1268 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: I know that you think that I'm going to say 1269 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 1: that that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. However, I 1270 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 1: like it because Mike, I've kind of insinuated. I don't know, 1271 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 1: and I think we're both speaking a little tongue in 1272 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: cheek here. 1273 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 3: But is it possible? 1274 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 1: I just it's literally, Mike last night had the conversation 1275 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: with somebody, and I'm like, is it possible that Ballard 1276 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 1: knows what is potentially there? Because like all of us, 1277 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't know exactly what Daniel Jones is going to 1278 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: be coming off injury, and he knows that he's sent 1279 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 1: away to first round picks and so as a result 1280 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 1: of that, is it possible that Chris Ballard has set 1281 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: the table to be able to then say when if 1282 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 1: the daughters knew that they needed the first year to 1283 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: just overlook the business aspect of the franchise before they 1284 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 1: would truly inventory where they were from a roster and 1285 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Wins lost standpoint that Chris Ballard wanted to be able 1286 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: to put himself in position to say, you know what, 1287 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 1: I just I'm two years away. I need two more years. 1288 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,479 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, Mike. The reason I asked 1289 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: your age is because I feel like you are literally 1290 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 1: the brother from another mother. Because I'm not saying that 1291 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 1: either one of us is right. And I know that 1292 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 1: there's a little flippancy involved in it, but critical thinking 1293 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 1: is what makes the world go around, Mike, and I 1294 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,360 Speaker 1: love it. I love the perspective, man, love it. 1295 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 14: My wife went to North Central and she knows your family. 1296 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, I was. I was, Now, 1297 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 1: does she like the family or has she said that 1298 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: we're bad people? I want to make sure that we're 1299 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: on the same page here. 1300 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think so. I think I think your uncle one, 1301 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 14: I think it's an uncle of yours is in the 1302 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 14: construction business. 1303 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 1: There are several because I can tell you right now 1304 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: you can't drive through Ravenswood without running into a query. 1305 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 1: So yes, I have eight cousins that my dad's oldest 1306 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 1: brother has a ton of quarry kids that went through 1307 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: North Central. But Eddie, I liked it because it gave 1308 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 1: us a chance to play the music. 1309 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 3: There, right. 1310 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it's at out face. I'm telling you, 1311 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that intentionally. In no way, shape or 1312 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: form am I saying that. Chris Ballard was like, you know, 1313 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 1: what what can I do to buy myself three four, 1314 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: five more years? But he has gone through now and 1315 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: not once but twice, but really like three different times. 1316 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: The the whole saga of well but if we just 1317 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: retooled this at the quarterback position, if we just retooled 1318 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 1: this a year away, a year away, a year away, 1319 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and now here we. 1320 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 3: Are possibly back to square one there. 1321 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 7: Boy. 1322 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 4: It's just interesting because he's entering the final year of 1323 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 4: his contract too, Like you would expect somebody like him 1324 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 4: to go out, you know, with a bang and try 1325 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 4: to be as agressive as he can to save his job. 1326 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,879 Speaker 4: And there's still the chance that he could lose both players, 1327 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 4: Jake like it's. 1328 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 3: On the table. 1329 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 4: I understand it may be like a one percent chance, 1330 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 4: but it's still a chance that they could not have 1331 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,639 Speaker 4: Alec Peiris and or Daniel Jones next season. 1332 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 1: What about Kyler Murray? We've got halfway through the show 1333 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 1: we have you have to mention Kyler Murray. 1334 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought this up, and I'm glad someone 1335 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 4: else brought up the Jets earlier, because there was a 1336 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 4: report from somebody from S and Y earlier this morning 1337 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 4: that it seems inevitable that Kyler Murray will be a 1338 01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 4: Viking next year and that the Jets offensive coordinator. Do 1339 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 4: you know who that is? Jake, by the way, the 1340 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 4: Jets offensive coordinator? Is it a former Cult offensive coordinator, 1341 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,640 Speaker 4: former Cult head coach? Oh Frank Craig. Yes, he is 1342 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 4: now their offensive corner. Would you like to guess who 1343 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 4: he would like to be his starting quarterback next year? C? J. 1344 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 3: Stroud? No, is he on record of saying this. 1345 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 4: You're saying it's a report, But he's been on record 1346 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,520 Speaker 4: about this player before. 1347 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 3: Is it somebody he's had before? Oh? 1348 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Gardner Minshee? No, did he have Minshoe I can't 1349 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:42,679 Speaker 1: remember the years I'll. 1350 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 3: Run together for me, I don't think so. No, that 1351 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 3: was Shane Andrew. It's kicking, now, go ahead, Carson wentz. Okay, Okay, 1352 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 3: you imagine Carson wins in New York. No, I can't. 1353 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess he was in Philly. I mean, 1354 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 1: they're they're you know, Philly is pretty tough. You gotta 1355 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: have pretty pretty big chops to play in Philly. 1356 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 4: Which move do we see first? Jake and I put 1357 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 4: this out on the query Underscore company X. Anthony Richardson 1358 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,959 Speaker 4: traded Zaire Franklin cut or traded a Daniel Jones contract 1359 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 4: or an Alex Pierce contract, not specific to the Colts 1360 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 4: with either one of those guys, but just. 1361 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 3: A contract in general. 1362 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:33,080 Speaker 4: Richardson traded makes the most sense considering by Wednesday they 1363 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 4: have to be under the cap and they're just over 1364 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:35,719 Speaker 4: four million dollars. 1365 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 1: Eddie, it's the easiest to get done because it's what 1366 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's a fifth round pick, you know what 1367 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean? 1368 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the. 1369 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: That that to me would be the one logically speaking, 1370 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 1: that would seem the most. 1371 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 3: Prone to happen. 1372 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 4: The early vote so far sixty three percent for Zire Franklin. 1373 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's possible too. But Franklin, you get 1374 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 1: what would you get for Franklin a third round maybe 1375 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,639 Speaker 1: aig I don't even know if you'd get that. A linebacker, Yeah, 1376 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's you're right, You're right. Kyle Nettrep. High 1377 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 1: school basketball underway for the Sectionals and Kyle Nettrep. Friend 1378 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: of the show, joins us next. You know, one of 1379 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 1: the things that is I think unique to this market 1380 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: is you know, I've only so I can't speak to 1381 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 1: it with totality here, but I have only worked in 1382 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Saint Louis in terms of sports coverage, but 1383 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,959 Speaker 1: I lived in New York briefly. I've lived in Kansas 1384 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: obviously briefly, but also knowing and having friends that have 1385 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 1: lived elsewhere in different cities. The passion for high school 1386 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 1: sports in this town, I do think is unique for 1387 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 1: a city this size that has the number of professional 1388 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 1: sports that we do. And I mean this sincerely. One 1389 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: of the most things of having a city that has 1390 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: the passion for high school sports like Indianapolis or the 1391 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 1: state of Indiana does is making sure that you have 1392 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 1: somebody that has their finger on the pulse of everything 1393 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 1: as it's happening. And I can't imagine that it would 1394 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 1: be possible in any other market to have somebody that 1395 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:23,200 Speaker 1: has a better understanding of the nuances, the personalities, the games, 1396 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,600 Speaker 1: and the storylines of all aspects of prep sports the 1397 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 1: way Indiana does. With Kyle Edenrip at the Indianapolis Star, 1398 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:30,240 Speaker 1: I think we have. 1399 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 5: Lost and clueless. 1400 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 2: We bring on Kyle Edrip from the Inn Star. 1401 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 1: That's right, and he joins us now on the Java 1402 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 1: House Colebrew Coffee guest line. 1403 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 3: Hi, Kyle, how are you You. 1404 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,160 Speaker 5: Just diminished everything you said before that? 1405 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 3: No? No, no, I didn't you did? Eddie? Whose voice 1406 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,640 Speaker 3: is it that's saying that? Eddie? Can we play that 1407 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 3: one more time? 1408 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,679 Speaker 5: Speaking have lost and clueless? We bring on Kyle Edenrip 1409 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 5: from the Instar. 1410 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,479 Speaker 2: There you go, I did say that. Yeah, that's right, man. 1411 01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't be throwing me out of that bus you're 1412 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: driving pas Hey, here we are. This is your time, man, 1413 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously high school football, we get 1414 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 1: the High School Football Tournament, which I think is kind 1415 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 1: of underrated in terms of Indiana's enthusiasm for it. But 1416 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,879 Speaker 1: here we are in the midst of Hoo's your hysteria. 1417 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 1: And one of the interesting things that you have in 1418 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,640 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Star is just you know, kind of like 1419 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 1: twenty takeaways, twenty twenty storylines that maybe we weren't anticipating 1420 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 1: at this point. What jumps out at you when you 1421 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 1: look at sectionals that you say to yourself back in January, 1422 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:30,919 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have seen that coming. 1423 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 2: Boy, I would. 1424 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 5: There are definitely some teams that have come on strong, 1425 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 5: like HSE I think is a good example of that that, 1426 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,719 Speaker 5: you know, maybe we didn't expect. Honestly, going into the season, 1427 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 5: I thought they would be a team to watch. 1428 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 2: I thought they were, you know, they're a. 1429 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 5: Senior heavy team, but they also have a star sophomore 1430 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,600 Speaker 5: of Varshaw and Clark, who people are going to know 1431 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 5: about if they don't already. He's a He's a big 1432 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 5: time Division one player eventually in a couple of years. 1433 01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,519 Speaker 5: But they were kind of struggling along a little bit 1434 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,680 Speaker 5: mid season. You know, they lost to actually lost to Noblesville, 1435 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 5: lost pretty handily to Mount Vernon, and I think that 1436 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 5: was in towards the end of January, and ever since 1437 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 5: then they've kind of just taken off and they won 1438 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 5: eight in a row going into tonight, and obviously they 1439 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 5: got a huge challenge ahead of them against Fishers tonight. 1440 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,000 Speaker 5: But you know, that's a school that you know, they 1441 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 5: know each other really well, obviously the same district. 1442 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 2: You know, there's not a lot of. 1443 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,320 Speaker 5: You know, secrets between the teams, I would say, And 1444 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,680 Speaker 5: they've played each other earlier this year, and you know, 1445 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 5: there are some questions with Fishers of course, mainly Jason 1446 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 5: Gardner junior coming back for the first time since they 1447 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 5: played each other but before Christmas, so that will be 1448 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 5: a big storyline going into this game. But but they're 1449 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 5: definitely one. I would say that they have taken off 1450 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 5: kind of rocketed here these last this last month or so. 1451 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 5: And I thought played really well against Fishers the other 1452 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 5: night Landon Oswall had a huge game. A senior lefty 1453 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 5: hit a couple of threes in the fourth quarter and 1454 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 5: got them going and it was like, man, they were 1455 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,000 Speaker 5: kind of off off to the races there. But yeah, 1456 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a fun game tonight 1457 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 5: against Fishers. And that's just one of the two games 1458 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,640 Speaker 5: tonight with you know, the Carmel Noblesville game first and 1459 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 5: not to sellout over there at Noblesville, So that's gonna 1460 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 5: be an awesome crowd as usual. I mean no surprise 1461 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 5: there that it's a packed house. But but that'll be 1462 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 5: a fun one for sure. 1463 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,639 Speaker 3: Where will you find yourself tonight? 1464 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,600 Speaker 5: I will be at Plainfield, which I think is the 1465 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 5: other you know there there's two that really pop off 1466 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 5: the page. 1467 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:29,760 Speaker 2: I mean there's more than that. 1468 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 5: There's a ton of great matchups tonight all over the state, 1469 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 5: but for a doubleheader and then really the first game 1470 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 5: especially is one that you know, when the draw came out, 1471 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,680 Speaker 5: it was like, oh my, it's a Pike in Plainfield 1472 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 5: right out of the gate. The first game of the 1473 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 5: night tonight. And then Ben Davis Brownsburg should also be 1474 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,960 Speaker 5: really interesting. But man, that Pike Blainfield game. You know, 1475 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,719 Speaker 5: two top five teams. I can't wait, and they haven't 1476 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,240 Speaker 5: played this year, so that kind of adds to the 1477 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 5: element of the unknown a little bit, which is kind 1478 01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,040 Speaker 5: of rare for sexual opponents. A lot of times the 1479 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 5: teams are conference rivals or you know, see each other 1480 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,400 Speaker 5: because their neighbors. Uh, these teams have not played this season, 1481 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,800 Speaker 5: so that's gonna be a lot of fun. 1482 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Nen Rep is my guest. He is on the 1483 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,800 Speaker 1: Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line. He is of course 1484 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis Star Kyle. When you look at the 1485 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 1: beginning of the season to now, what team would you 1486 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 1: say has most grown? 1487 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,320 Speaker 5: I would you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna say, and 1488 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 5: this is a super talented team already, but I would 1489 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 5: say there was with Pike. There's just a ton of 1490 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,160 Speaker 5: questions going in even though they're overflowing with talent. 1491 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 1492 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,680 Speaker 5: I thought when they played Fishers back, you know, and 1493 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 5: that was relatively early in the season. It was just 1494 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 5: after the new year. Uh and and and Fishers really 1495 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,679 Speaker 5: for the first three quarters just completely dominated them. 1496 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 13: Uh. 1497 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 5: It was not even uh you know, the defensive intensity. 1498 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 5: I didn't think Pike was ready for it. And then 1499 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,839 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter they kind of, you know, TJ. Davis, 1500 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,400 Speaker 5: their smaller senior guard, really kind of I think instigated 1501 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 5: their rally and kind of got them at least back 1502 01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 5: to where it was only a nine point game. 1503 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 2: It was never completely in. 1504 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,280 Speaker 5: Doubt, but but they did rally in the fourth quarter. 1505 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 5: I think since then they have they played with the 1506 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,599 Speaker 5: tougher edge to them. They've only lost one more game 1507 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 5: since then. That was the Marion County Championship against Lawrence North. 1508 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 5: They lost that game in overtime without Johari Miller who had. 1509 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 2: A concussion there late in the game. 1510 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,519 Speaker 5: But they've beat you know, they've won some really close 1511 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 5: games against good teams like Carmel and Mault Vernon Ben Davis. 1512 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 5: So to me, like you know, Jeff Tiags team is, yes, 1513 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,280 Speaker 5: they are super town. A lot of people say they 1514 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 5: might be the most talented team. You know, I would 1515 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 5: argue Fishers is still really high up there. But but 1516 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,679 Speaker 5: you know, to me, the toughness level, the intensity they've 1517 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 5: played with here lately, I think they've grown a lot. 1518 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,719 Speaker 5: And I'm curious to see how that. You know, doesn't 1519 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,280 Speaker 5: mean they win tonight against a really good playing field team, 1520 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 5: but I think they have grown a lot since the 1521 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:51,719 Speaker 5: start of the season. 1522 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 1: Kyle, you have documented, you know, what Fishers has done 1523 01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,760 Speaker 1: here right there. I think it's twenty three to zero 1524 01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 1: now is where they stand, you know, and they're are 1525 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,719 Speaker 1: records that they could achieve just in terms of this 1526 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: this streak that they're on. 1527 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 3: And I've talked about this like. 1528 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 1: With Miami Ohio at the collegiate level, and I know 1529 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 1: people can mock, you know, their schedule or whatever it 1530 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: may be. But I am a firm believer that at 1531 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:23,080 Speaker 1: some point a team that is unbeaten the number and 1532 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 1: the they're almost playing against themselves. 1533 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:26,799 Speaker 3: It's like golf. 1534 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're constantly playing against your own best game, 1535 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 1: and that pressure can be very internal and can be difficult. 1536 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 1: Have you gotten a chance to be the coaching staff 1537 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 1: or the players, or just of witnessing it with fishers 1538 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 1: to get an idea how they navigate if you will 1539 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 1: that pressure or try not to scoreboard to walk too 1540 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: much as the numbers increase, I don't. 1541 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 5: Think they It's not something that they talk about, you know, 1542 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,280 Speaker 5: it's it's it's never front of front of mind for them. 1543 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,799 Speaker 5: And it really is impressive. I mean, they've won fifty 1544 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 5: three regular season games in a row, so you know 1545 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,760 Speaker 5: that's you know, you're getting up into argos of the 1546 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 5: you know there's still a ways away from that, but 1547 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 5: you know that's seventy nine is the all time state record, 1548 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 5: and you know that's not all that far away when 1549 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 5: you consider the schedule they've played and and the tough 1550 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,920 Speaker 5: games they've had, and they did lose obviously the game 1551 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 5: to Jeffersonville last year in the state championship, and I 1552 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 5: know that was a crushing loss, you know, and I 1553 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 5: would say too, like that shouldn't be looked at as 1554 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 5: an upset. Jeffersonville was without Trace Singleton for a large 1555 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 5: part of that season, and once they got him back, 1556 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,080 Speaker 5: they were just as good as fishers. They beat him 1557 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,599 Speaker 5: in the summer. You know, they were legitimate title contender 1558 01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 5: the whole time, but to lose that game by one 1559 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,280 Speaker 5: point was crushing. So they kind of came back this 1560 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 5: year and I didn't know, you know, they have so 1561 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,920 Speaker 5: many new pieces this year that you know, guys who 1562 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 5: played JV or you know, newcomers like Kimer Grew who 1563 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,679 Speaker 5: came in from Lawrence North and just a different team. 1564 01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:54,800 Speaker 2: They lost all those seniors and. 1565 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,639 Speaker 5: A lot of leadership from last year's team like Nathan 1566 01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 5: Baker and John Anthony Hall and Justin Kirby who's actually 1567 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 5: on that Miami Ohio team this year as a freshman. 1568 01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,519 Speaker 5: So they lost a lot of a lot of talent 1569 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 5: and they've done this with you know, they still have 1570 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,160 Speaker 5: Cooper Zachary, Jason Gardner. Obviously, they have a lot of 1571 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 5: talent still, but it's been a different type of team. 1572 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 5: I don't know if they you know, if you compare 1573 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 5: the talent level or the experience from last year to 1574 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 5: this year, you know, you probably picked last year's team. 1575 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 5: So it is impressive. And honestly, you know, they've gone 1576 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 5: through this year winning some really close games, and they've 1577 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 5: been pushed by you know, teams like you know, like Pike. 1578 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,120 Speaker 2: That Pike game was a good one. 1579 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,680 Speaker 5: They they had, you know, Westfield had came back on them, 1580 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 5: sent the game to overtime and they had to win 1581 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 5: that game in overtime. So it hasn't all been runaway games. 1582 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 5: It's been some close ones. And it seems like when 1583 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 5: the you know, when the intensity of the game rises, 1584 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 5: they seem to you know, surge, And I think that's 1585 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,800 Speaker 5: a mark of a champion team that just kind of 1586 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 5: has that confidence that you know, when it's when it's 1587 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 5: time to win the game, they feel like they're going 1588 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,000 Speaker 5: to do it. And I know they they didn't do 1589 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,680 Speaker 5: it against Jeffersonville, but you know, like I said, that 1590 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 5: was a very very good team. So to only lose 1591 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 5: one time in the last two years, that's that's really impressive. 1592 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:07,840 Speaker 3: Lastly, Kyle. 1593 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 1: I know that you had the article this week, but 1594 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: for those that did not see it, if you could 1595 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 1: kind of reinform everybody, a top ten receiver in the cut, 1596 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, arguably one of the biggest recruits to come 1597 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 1: out of Indiana in quite some time at a skill 1598 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 1: set position. Manshen Sales, who we've talked about from Lawrence North, 1599 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 1: has all, it appears, the tools to be a college star. 1600 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 1: And we're now getting a better idea what schools he 1601 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 1: is looking towards. Can he tell us his visitation list 1602 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 1: and where you think he may be leaning? 1603 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he is. You know, every time I've 1604 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,639 Speaker 5: talked to him, he is. He's really, you know, been 1605 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 5: high on EU. I'm not saying, you know, but there 1606 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,600 Speaker 5: is a connection there. And I may have talked to 1607 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,960 Speaker 5: you about this before, but you know, obviously Omar Cooper 1608 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,480 Speaker 5: and Davion Chandler came from Lawrence North. He'se guys relationships 1609 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 5: with those two. Actually just saw him another night at 1610 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 5: a at a game, I think it was a Pike 1611 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 5: game and he was there to watch it and Davion 1612 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,479 Speaker 5: Chandler was with him and they were they were being 1613 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 5: honored as the state track champions in the spring at halftime. 1614 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,960 Speaker 5: But uh so there's a real you know, he calls him, 1615 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 5: you know, it calls Davy and his brother. 1616 01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:09,759 Speaker 2: I mean they're very very close. 1617 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 9: Uh. 1618 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,240 Speaker 5: And IU was on that list, he said, I you 1619 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,759 Speaker 5: has been last time I talked to him for a story, 1620 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,559 Speaker 5: he said, I you, HA has recruited him more than 1621 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,120 Speaker 5: anyone really. So I mean that's that's that's high praise 1622 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 5: and h But the other four schools, you know, they're 1623 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 5: you're you're up against the blue bloods, and IU is 1624 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,200 Speaker 5: a blue blood now after they won the national championship. 1625 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 5: But you you consider the other schools Alabama, Miami of Florida, 1626 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 5: and Ohio State, and uh, you know it's it's uh, 1627 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 5: you know, that's a very very good list obviously, and 1628 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be you know, it's gonna be 1629 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:45,639 Speaker 5: very tough. 1630 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:46,040 Speaker 2: I think. 1631 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 5: I mean, I obviously n I L comes into play 1632 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 5: when you're talking about these. He's going to IU first 1633 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,799 Speaker 5: for his official visit that is in April late April. 1634 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,080 Speaker 5: He's going to Alabama in late May, Ohio State and 1635 01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 5: Miami or back to back weekends in June. So, uh, 1636 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 5: he's talked highly of all four of those schools, especially 1637 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:07,559 Speaker 5: I'd say Alabama because he has family connections there, you know, 1638 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 5: so I've always thought, you know, if he turns down Alabama, 1639 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,200 Speaker 5: it's it's that'll be that'll be big news. 1640 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 2: But uh but yeah, I mean I. 1641 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,040 Speaker 5: Think he's still at the point where he's learning about 1642 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,240 Speaker 5: and he's in a position honestly where he's a top 1643 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 5: ten player. You're not rushed to make a decision here. 1644 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,519 Speaker 5: I mean, teams are going to wait for him. Even 1645 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 5: though these are very highly uh competitive teams that that 1646 01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 5: can get you know, a lot of different recruits, They're 1647 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,720 Speaker 5: going to wait for him to make a decision. He's 1648 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 5: not going to be rushed into anything. So I think 1649 01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,080 Speaker 5: he's in a good position where he can kind of 1650 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,840 Speaker 5: take his time and he's got a. 1651 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:40,840 Speaker 2: Good head on his shoulders. 1652 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,280 Speaker 5: And you know, I think you know, he's six' five 1653 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,519 Speaker 5: and he can, run so you, know he's going to 1654 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 5: have you, know he's gonna have some great, options AND i, 1655 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 5: hope you, know for his, sake he uh you, know 1656 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,720 Speaker 5: has a chance to really sit down and learn all 1657 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 5: about these schools and and find the best situation for. 1658 01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 5: HIM i know a lot of people obviously in his 1659 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 5: ear ABOUT i, you but but you know you hope 1660 01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 5: for the kid's sake he ends up in the best 1661 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,360 Speaker 5: place possible for, him is he's AN nfl. 1662 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:07,679 Speaker 2: PLAYER i have no doubt about. 1663 01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 1: That it is crazy still still for me to sit 1664 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 1: here and Think, Alabama Ohio, State, Miami florida and, think, 1665 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah indiana beat all three of. 1666 01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,640 Speaker 3: Them in the what it's just. 1667 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: Insane kyle, Again plainfield tonight where you will be right 1668 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 1: in terms of covering, GAMES i will. 1669 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,479 Speaker 2: Yeah six, pm get there. 1670 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 5: EARLY i know it's going to be a big walk 1671 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 5: up Crowd Pike plainfield and THEN bd And brownsburg at seven, 1672 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 5: thirty roughly forty. 1673 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,080 Speaker 1: Five all, right we'll be reading about all the coverage 1674 01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 1: at The Indianapolis. Star appreciate the time. 1675 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 3: As, always no. 1676 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 2: Problem Thanks jake. 1677 01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,839 Speaker 1: Cole Ed rip joining us on The Java House Colbrew 1678 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,240 Speaker 1: coffee guest Line Kevin bowen by the way in about 1679 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and then coming up forty five minutes from. 1680 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,600 Speaker 1: Now it is Our franciscan health feel, good good for 1681 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:56,519 Speaker 1: the Hard, friday and a story about how sometimes when 1682 01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,839 Speaker 1: the heart is in, sorrow it can find some comfort 1683 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 1: through the aspect of team and family and we'll get 1684 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,960 Speaker 1: to that coming up forty five minutes from. Now, EDDIE 1685 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,000 Speaker 1: i Think i've told, you AND i realize you know 1686 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,360 Speaker 1: the old, saying nobody cares about your fantasy, team, right. 1687 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 1: Yep BUT i do PLAY nba fantasy. Basketball it's a 1688 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,720 Speaker 1: great way to keep track of what players are doing 1689 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,800 Speaker 1: around the Leaguew my team's nineteen to zero, undefeated. 1690 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 3: Thank, You Bill old and. Strong. 1691 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 1: Wow and there is one guy the two seed right, 1692 01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,639 Speaker 1: now AND I i kicked myself BECAUSE i kept keeping 1693 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,160 Speaker 1: an eye on, it kept keeping an eye on, it 1694 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,360 Speaker 1: kept keeping an eye on, it and then one, day, 1695 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 1: BOOM i get an alert through the free agency wire 1696 01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 1: that he picked up and was putting on Ir Jason. 1697 01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 1: Tatum darn it because the playoffs begin for us next. 1698 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,360 Speaker 1: Week so he Has Jason. Tatum and what we now 1699 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 1: know is that it's perfect timing Because tatum is going 1700 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,040 Speaker 1: to be available for him during the four week stretch 1701 01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:58,320 Speaker 1: of our. 1702 01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,639 Speaker 3: Playoffs but the question, Is, eddie and starting, tonight how 1703 01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 3: many minutes will he. 1704 01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:07,280 Speaker 4: GET i would expect that number probably in the low double, 1705 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 4: figures if not around. Fifteen you would expect them to 1706 01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:15,759 Speaker 4: kind of ease him into it for how long, boy 1707 01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,840 Speaker 4: the player with it's making as much money as he, 1708 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,680 Speaker 4: is and how much he means to the franchise, ITSELF 1709 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,680 Speaker 4: i would say probably for the rest of the. 1710 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,920 Speaker 1: Season you think he'll be out of minute limitation the whole? Season, 1711 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,400 Speaker 1: YEAH i, THINK i think. SO i, mean you don't 1712 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 1: want to mess with, that like you want to overdo 1713 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 1: it too. Early next, thing you, know like you set 1714 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,840 Speaker 1: yourself back further than you already. 1715 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,160 Speaker 3: Are when did he suffer set? INJURY i should have 1716 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:46,679 Speaker 3: looked that, up because it was like a month before, 1717 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 3: tires right. Boy in that, CASE i, MEAN i mean 1718 01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,440 Speaker 3: it's less than ten, months five, twelve. 1719 01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:00,200 Speaker 1: Okay so, yeah a month before right now that it's 1720 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 1: a VERY i, mean that seems to be an accelerated. 1721 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,680 Speaker 1: Path keep in mind That Jason tatum is one that 1722 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,559 Speaker 1: reached out To Tyrese haliburton kind of consulted for him 1723 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,479 Speaker 1: and guided him through his own, journey at least in the. 1724 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,640 Speaker 1: Outset and and SO i think that that's interesting to 1725 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,599 Speaker 1: watch because it does give barometer every body is. Different 1726 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,200 Speaker 1: AND i don't mean the word, everybody every literally body 1727 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,280 Speaker 1: human body is. Different but AND i noticed that on that. 1728 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Show i've been watching That british show That Naked. Attractions oh, 1729 01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,080 Speaker 1: yeah they're all. Different everybody's naked on that. Thing and 1730 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,559 Speaker 1: What i've noticed on that show is that zero point 1731 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,040 Speaker 1: zero five percent of THE us population truly has beautiful. 1732 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,519 Speaker 1: Bodies a lot of grossness going, on and, then LIKE i, 1733 01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,720 Speaker 1: said with The, brits bad, teeth a lot of bad, 1734 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 1: teeth but that it'll be interesting to watch to see 1735 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,720 Speaker 1: What Jason tatum is able to. Do and you know, 1736 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 1: what you got to be happy for the. GUY i, 1737 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: mean he's a great, player and that's. Impressive that is definitely. 1738 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 4: Impressive it's gonna be a busy weekend for THE nfl To, 1739 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 4: jake because like you Have hayleen's return to night obviously 1740 01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 4: in THE nba, landscape but in terms of THE, nfl 1741 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,879 Speaker 4: Like Rashaun, Gary Taylor, decker or two players that announced 1742 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 4: that are not going back to the team's Ra Shuan 1743 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:12,160 Speaker 4: garry edge, rusher pass rusher for The Green Bay. Packers 1744 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,680 Speaker 4: he was due to almost make twenty million, dollars so 1745 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,759 Speaker 4: they let him go to open up some cap. Space 1746 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,160 Speaker 4: Taylor decker has been trying to get a contract. Extension 1747 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,080 Speaker 4: he's a left. Tackle he's been connected to already The 1748 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 4: Chicago bears because they need a left tackle and because 1749 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,280 Speaker 4: of the familiarity there With Ben, johnson which begs the, question, 1750 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 4: like how busy are The colts in the next twenty 1751 01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,799 Speaker 4: four to forty eight. HOURS i mean with either trading, 1752 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:40,559 Speaker 4: players cutting, players extending and. Restructuring like there's three guys 1753 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,080 Speaker 4: in mind on the extended restructure THAT i think that 1754 01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 4: they're going to have to do something, with and That's 1755 01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:51,640 Speaker 4: Michael Whitman. Jr Quentin, nelson and Then DeForest buckner if 1756 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 4: you want to give him an extension just to kind 1757 01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,960 Speaker 4: of manipulate the cap so you can open up some 1758 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,400 Speaker 4: open up some space to achieve whatever is you want 1759 01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 4: to achieve this. 1760 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 1: Offseason you, KNOW i feel bad For DeForest buckner BECAUSE 1761 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,519 Speaker 1: i Think DeForest buckner is a great player and was 1762 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:11,440 Speaker 1: with a great franchise and got traded into total mediocrity 1763 01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 1: that has failed, him not failed, him but just has 1764 01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 1: not built anything around him to make it worth his. 1765 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,599 Speaker 1: WHILE i get the fact that you, know and he's 1766 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 1: worked hard to come back from injuries and other such, 1767 01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,840 Speaker 1: things and you wonder if deep, down if he's not, Like, 1768 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,160 Speaker 1: OKAY i got on the outside of the. Building that's. 1769 01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:28,880 Speaker 1: Cool but outside of, that you know WHAT i? Mean 1770 01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:31,000 Speaker 1: by the, way do we have. 1771 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 3: Tickets to give? BOY i don't. Know i'd have to 1772 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,760 Speaker 3: Check Dave Matthews. Band i'll have to check and see 1773 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,200 Speaker 3: if we have any, left because. 1774 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,880 Speaker 1: You have it right here in big bold face for 1775 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,719 Speaker 1: me ticket Giveaway Dave Matthews, band one pair text line. 1776 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,719 Speaker 1: Giveaway you've got that in there Now, Friday june twenty 1777 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 1: sixth At. Ruoff now you're smiling, like maybe did you 1778 01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:54,200 Speaker 1: count your chickens before they? 1779 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 3: Hatch? 1780 01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:56,680 Speaker 1: THERE i know we had. THEM i don't know if 1781 01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,719 Speaker 1: we still have. Them marching ants come in and steal 1782 01:29:58,760 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 1: the tickets? 1783 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 3: Away is that what? HAPPENED i don't. Know, okay so 1784 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 3: we don't. 1785 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,720 Speaker 4: Know if you still want a text by all, means go. 1786 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,720 Speaker 4: AHEAD i don't know if we have them or. 1787 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 1: NOT i had an epiphany last night That i'm going 1788 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,080 Speaker 1: to run Past Kevin bowen and it's going to make 1789 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,960 Speaker 1: him wish he was still radio partner with, me or. 1790 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:20,519 Speaker 3: He's just gonna hang up and be Like i'm. 1791 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,040 Speaker 1: Done also, possible but there's plenty of cult stuff to 1792 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,720 Speaker 1: talk about with him as, well and we will do 1793 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,200 Speaker 1: that on the other, Side Kevin bowen Fan Morning show joins. 1794 01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:32,200 Speaker 3: Us. Next, okay so here you, Go, eddie. 1795 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,840 Speaker 1: You're ready for my sleep deprivation epiphany THAT i. 1796 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,880 Speaker 4: Had which one is? This you've had too many for 1797 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:39,000 Speaker 4: me to keep track of, Now. 1798 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,560 Speaker 1: NO i had some sports ones that we'll get to With. 1799 01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:45,840 Speaker 1: Kevin But, Kevin kevin's a young, parents, Right kevin now 1800 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:46,200 Speaker 1: has three? 1801 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,679 Speaker 3: Children? Right? Yeah so what would. 1802 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,720 Speaker 1: You say is the most common little kid joke that 1803 01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:56,760 Speaker 1: most people very first. Hear what's the most common joke ever? 1804 01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,559 Speaker 3: Told probably a knock knock joke of Some, YEAH i, mean, 1805 01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,680 Speaker 3: aside why did the chicken cross the? Road thank? You, 1806 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:03,920 Speaker 3: okay why did the chicken cross the? 1807 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:08,120 Speaker 1: Road NOW i am fifty three years, old and WELL 1808 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,400 Speaker 1: i can tell. You, Actually march third was my half. 1809 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,880 Speaker 1: Birthday So i'm fifty three and a half in three, days, 1810 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Right it was fifty three and a half in two 1811 01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,760 Speaker 1: days WHEN i had the epiphany AS i was staring 1812 01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:21,360 Speaker 1: at the ceiling at three forty eight this. 1813 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,640 Speaker 4: Morning, wait wouldn't have been three days because it's, today. 1814 01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,639 Speaker 1: Correct it was AFTER i, mean technically, Speaking i've always 1815 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,160 Speaker 1: considered the next day to be when you wake. 1816 01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,080 Speaker 3: Up but, yes. 1817 01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,400 Speaker 1: And you, Know i'm sitting there And i'm thinking About Zaire, 1818 01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,559 Speaker 1: franklin And i'm thinking About Alec pearce And Daniel jones 1819 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:37,880 Speaker 1: and what's going to? Happen and you, know Is Chris 1820 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 1: ballard playing chess or checkers and all of it? 1821 01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:44,960 Speaker 3: Right and then it hits, me what's the answer to 1822 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:48,360 Speaker 3: why did the chicken cross the road to get to 1823 01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:48,680 Speaker 3: the other? 1824 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:54,240 Speaker 1: Side for the very first, TIME i, realized is this 1825 01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:58,719 Speaker 1: a euphemism implying that obviously a chicken is so slow 1826 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,880 Speaker 1: and a road would be a or his condition for 1827 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,080 Speaker 1: a chicken that to get to the other side means 1828 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,120 Speaker 1: that something tragic would happen to the, chicken. 1829 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,280 Speaker 3: And it actually crosses over the rainbow bridge to the other. 1830 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:14,400 Speaker 3: Side have you ever thought about? That is? That what 1831 01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,800 Speaker 3: is this a dark? JOKE i think it. 1832 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,640 Speaker 1: IS i think after all this, TIME i, realized wait a, 1833 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,719 Speaker 1: minute it's a double meaning of the other, side because 1834 01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,960 Speaker 1: you think that it means to get to the other 1835 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,880 Speaker 1: side of the, Road but, no it means that the 1836 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 1: chicken actually is aware of its fate and wants to 1837 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 1: go to Chicken heaven because it's either that or The tyson, 1838 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:33,960 Speaker 1: plant and he'd rather go. 1839 01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:34,320 Speaker 3: To The Chicken. 1840 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,840 Speaker 4: Head i'm just shocked That kevin's hanging on hold through. 1841 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,240 Speaker 1: This i'll bet You kevin is saying to, himself you, 1842 01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,920 Speaker 1: Know i've got three young people That i'm responsible, for 1843 01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 1: and they're going to know this, joke and IF i 1844 01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,120 Speaker 1: can share with them this sort of theological, epiphany this 1845 01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,120 Speaker 1: is going to only brighten their eyes and they're going 1846 01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,920 Speaker 1: to be grateful for the time That dad's spent With Uncle. 1847 01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,799 Speaker 3: Jake i'll bet that's What kevin's. 1848 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,839 Speaker 1: Thinking he joins us now on The Java House Colbrew 1849 01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,120 Speaker 1: Coffee guests, Line, kevin your. 1850 01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:04,800 Speaker 16: Thoughts, Yeah when we do These friday, segments typically it's two, 1851 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,560 Speaker 16: o'clock occasionally one, O'clock i'm always, like why DON'T i 1852 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:09,719 Speaker 16: have a beer before? 1853 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,600 Speaker 3: This you? Do you typically want to have one, after. 1854 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 16: Well, before during and after as you went on that 1855 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:22,559 Speaker 16: whatever you just described. There you knowing your half birthday 1856 01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,920 Speaker 16: so casually is probably the least surprising thing in the 1857 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:25,479 Speaker 16: history Of jay. 1858 01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:30,960 Speaker 3: QUERY i know my half? Birthday how got is this a? 1859 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,800 Speaker 4: Thing, well my half birthday is my father's. Birthday that's 1860 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:34,360 Speaker 4: HOW i know it's my. 1861 01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:36,760 Speaker 1: Day my half, birthday my sister's best friend growing up 1862 01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,040 Speaker 1: With Stephanie macomb and her birthday is my half. Birthday 1863 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,120 Speaker 1: so every year on her, Birthday i'm, like, hey happy, 1864 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:41,880 Speaker 1: birthday it's my half. 1865 01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,720 Speaker 3: Birthday but it's not, Hard. Kevin whatever your birthday. 1866 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Is you add or some you know you six months 1867 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,280 Speaker 1: after that's your half, birthday. 1868 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:53,000 Speaker 16: RIGHT i mean that joke took literally four minutes to. 1869 01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 16: TIME i mean my kids would be, Like, dad are you? 1870 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,080 Speaker 16: Done after about ten. 1871 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,240 Speaker 1: Seconds when you're telling it to your, kid you simply 1872 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,320 Speaker 1: say to that because you're don't care About Zira. Franklin 1873 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,759 Speaker 1: well you're, young you, Know, maximie but you just simply 1874 01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:05,680 Speaker 1: say to, them why did the chicken? 1875 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:06,040 Speaker 3: Cross for? 1876 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,000 Speaker 1: Now they might be a little young now to understand 1877 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 1: the double. Meaning But, kevin be, honest you don't want 1878 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 1: to admit, this but at some point tonight you're going 1879 01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:14,559 Speaker 1: to say to your, wife you know What jake said 1880 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,960 Speaker 1: today That i'd never thought, about, RIGHT. 1881 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,160 Speaker 16: I Think i've tried that path before with, Her and she's, 1882 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,280 Speaker 16: like can you open the bottle of wine over? 1883 01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,599 Speaker 1: There, okay the one that you should have had before 1884 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:30,120 Speaker 1: you came on the. Program, okay so let's get to, This, 1885 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,920 Speaker 1: okay not chicken acrossing the, road but chicken and, egg 1886 01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:37,200 Speaker 1: and that is which would come in a perfect, world 1887 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:41,320 Speaker 1: which should have come? First The colts would have had 1888 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:45,160 Speaker 1: some sort of an agreement With Alec. Pierce or do 1889 01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:50,000 Speaker 1: you think they knew in order to Entice Alec piers 1890 01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,200 Speaker 1: to sign with, us it is in our best interest 1891 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,639 Speaker 1: to Have Daniel jones locked in and they just couldn't 1892 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 1: come to that. Agreement or do you think The colts, 1893 01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,000 Speaker 1: thought you know, what we're going to do the tag 1894 01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 1: because it's just a one year thing AND i want 1895 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,160 Speaker 1: to see where we are with this, guy And pierce 1896 01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,519 Speaker 1: may be collateral damage if that still is unconvincing to. 1897 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,639 Speaker 1: Him where do you think things fell in This jenga? 1898 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,479 Speaker 3: Game, YEAH i don't think it's a good. 1899 01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,280 Speaker 16: QUESTION i think it's a good. DEBATE i assume you, 1900 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:18,880 Speaker 16: know at the end of the, day it just came 1901 01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,840 Speaker 16: down to quarterbacks more important than wide. Out we've had 1902 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,640 Speaker 16: the quarterback, carousel et, cetera et. Cetera that would be my. Guess, 1903 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,000 Speaker 16: Now i'm very curious as we look ahead of the 1904 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:34,160 Speaker 16: next seventy two, hours Particularly, monday you know which party 1905 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,639 Speaker 16: kind of caves, first Like jones Or, pierce at some. 1906 01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,400 Speaker 2: Point one of them is going to have to commit 1907 01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:41,559 Speaker 2: with the other, one maybe not. 1908 01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,840 Speaker 16: Necessarily you, know maybe they've given word of mouth to each. 1909 01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,479 Speaker 16: Other BUT i guess maybe you could announce the signings. 1910 01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:52,479 Speaker 16: Together but you, know both, PLAYERS i guess have reasons 1911 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,040 Speaker 16: to get to noon On monday and wait to see 1912 01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 16: when other offers start to pour. In AND i think 1913 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,320 Speaker 16: you hear Ale pierce talk this week With Kay. Adams 1914 01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:05,280 Speaker 16: he Loves Daniel. Jones Loves Daniel. Jones that is an 1915 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:10,559 Speaker 16: unquestioned pro to The colts potentially keeping him here In. 1916 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,639 Speaker 16: Indy but, again he wants to make sure he's here long. 1917 01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:17,719 Speaker 16: Term so you, know does that mean that Until Daniel 1918 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:19,800 Speaker 16: jones and a long term deal is done with? Him 1919 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,360 Speaker 16: does that mean That Alex pierce will wait and then 1920 01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:26,200 Speaker 16: all of a, sudden if another comfortable quarterback situation or 1921 01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,760 Speaker 16: have ever you want to describe it comes, calling is 1922 01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:33,000 Speaker 16: that more attractive to? Him so, YEAH i think it's 1923 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,960 Speaker 16: a good, debate but it just seems a LITTLE i 1924 01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 16: think both parties obviously want the other party to be 1925 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,040 Speaker 16: here to return To, indy, clearly BUT i do think 1926 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:44,759 Speaker 16: it maybe matters almost a little bit more To pierce 1927 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:48,000 Speaker 16: in terms of just really how much he felt like 1928 01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,240 Speaker 16: he grew, to you, know appreciate the friendship and the 1929 01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,120 Speaker 16: relationship on the field With Daniel. 1930 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:58,240 Speaker 1: Jones what do you think the odds, Are, kevin that 1931 01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:02,880 Speaker 1: another franchise makes an offer To Daniel jones that The 1932 01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:04,640 Speaker 1: Indianapolis colts opt. 1933 01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:10,160 Speaker 16: Not to, Match, BOY i would have to think. SMALL i, 1934 01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:14,280 Speaker 16: mean you would just totally have failed this bet that you, 1935 01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,240 Speaker 16: have you, know thrown out. 1936 01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:16,519 Speaker 7: There. 1937 01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:21,639 Speaker 16: Now the interesting thing about it, is you, know when 1938 01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,200 Speaker 16: when a team makes an offer sheet, here they could 1939 01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:29,280 Speaker 16: structure it in a in a unique way to where 1940 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,960 Speaker 16: that might complicate things for The colts because then you 1941 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,960 Speaker 16: have to match set. Offer it's not like you can 1942 01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,439 Speaker 16: then come back and, say oh, no, no, no let's go 1943 01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:39,840 Speaker 16: ahead and create our. Own, No you've got to be 1944 01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,720 Speaker 16: able to you, know match that which you, know the cap. 1945 01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,920 Speaker 16: Situation let's just Use, Minnesota it's been the most common 1946 01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,439 Speaker 16: team we've talked. About the cap situation In minnesota is 1947 01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:50,840 Speaker 16: different than The caps situation here In. Indy so what 1948 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,160 Speaker 16: makes sense for The colts might not make sense for, well, 1949 01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:55,519 Speaker 16: yeah the The. 1950 01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,160 Speaker 2: Vikings So i'll. 1951 01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,600 Speaker 1: Give you an, example AND i can't AND i apologize. 1952 01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,679 Speaker 1: THAT i can't recall who it was we were talking. 1953 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:06,559 Speaker 1: To it might have Been chap that brought this. Up years, 1954 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,679 Speaker 1: ago when The colts Signed Will wolford to an offer, 1955 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,559 Speaker 1: sheet they had a clause in there that's saying for 1956 01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,679 Speaker 1: the first two years he had to be the highest 1957 01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:21,599 Speaker 1: paid player on the. Offense, Well buffalo was the one 1958 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:23,439 Speaker 1: that would have had to match, that and they already 1959 01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,599 Speaker 1: Had Jim kelly that they were paying a king's ransom, 1960 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:27,320 Speaker 1: to so there was no way they were going to 1961 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,960 Speaker 1: be able to make that match to match the, sheet 1962 01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:31,360 Speaker 1: and so, therefore, boom it was an. 1963 01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:32,120 Speaker 3: Automatic he was. 1964 01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,479 Speaker 1: Gone, Right so there can be creative language in, there 1965 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,800 Speaker 1: but it seems as Though New york The jets are 1966 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,519 Speaker 1: the only team right now that would have the cap 1967 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:46,160 Speaker 1: or the flexibility to do something right now to get him. 1968 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,759 Speaker 1: Right the other teams would have to be real creative 1969 01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:49,439 Speaker 1: over the next couple of. 1970 01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:53,639 Speaker 16: Days, well but, again you, KNOW i Thought James boyd 1971 01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,479 Speaker 16: did a great job this week and pointing out did 1972 01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,920 Speaker 16: The pacers think The Milwaukee bucks would do that For Miles? 1973 01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:58,240 Speaker 3: Turner? 1974 01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,360 Speaker 16: Right, No SO i actually think there are more teams 1975 01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,759 Speaker 16: that are in a better cap situation in this regard 1976 01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 16: than was with THE nba and The. Pacers so that's 1977 01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,839 Speaker 16: where again you've kind of left the door just cracked 1978 01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,000 Speaker 16: a little bit. There, YEAH i, mean the The chap 1979 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,920 Speaker 16: example is is a good. One you, know when you 1980 01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:21,400 Speaker 16: talk about how the HOW nfl teams, SPEND i think 1981 01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:25,160 Speaker 16: we've gone over. This The colts just spend. Differently they're 1982 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 16: their economic whatever belief is a little bit, different you, 1983 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,519 Speaker 16: know signing bonus, wise you know how much that they 1984 01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:36,200 Speaker 16: throw out there kind of, early, uh into into. Contracts 1985 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,320 Speaker 16: so you know that is something that again if a 1986 01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,479 Speaker 16: team knows that about The colts and if they choose 1987 01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:44,280 Speaker 16: to try and create a, contract that might not be 1988 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:49,040 Speaker 16: that different again from a you, know annual value, standpoint 1989 01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,360 Speaker 16: but it has just, yeah poison to to use that. 1990 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,000 Speaker 16: Term if it just has some things that really are 1991 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,160 Speaker 16: going to hinder The colts cap, situation then you, know 1992 01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,920 Speaker 16: maybe have something. Here BUT i just given a quarterback, 1993 01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,559 Speaker 16: carousel given the fact that they Tagged jones Not, Pierce 1994 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:09,559 Speaker 16: i'd Be i'd be very surprised if they didn't match Anything. 1995 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,479 Speaker 4: Kevin why didn't they try to Extend Alec pierce last 1996 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:15,360 Speaker 4: season or was it more of The pierce, camp wanting 1997 01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:16,920 Speaker 4: to see what it was like With Daniel. 1998 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,080 Speaker 3: Jones, yeah that's a good. 1999 01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,600 Speaker 16: QUESTION i Believe i'm trying to. THINK i feel LIKE 2000 01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:23,960 Speaker 16: i Asked alex that at some POINT i don't think 2001 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,560 Speaker 16: The colts had kind approached. Him AND i mean to 2002 01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,920 Speaker 16: play hindsight's twenty twenty because we obviously do this so. 2003 01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,120 Speaker 16: MUCH i, mean with that many people clamoring For Alec, 2004 01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,559 Speaker 16: pierce you, know to be an extension. Guy you, KNOW 2005 01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,000 Speaker 16: i was kind of in the camp of, like should 2006 01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:42,080 Speaker 16: you extend? Anybody ryman was the one THAT i did 2007 01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,160 Speaker 16: agree with because he's a left. Tackle but you, know 2008 01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,479 Speaker 16: at that, Point pierce had really only done it for one, 2009 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,559 Speaker 16: year and so you were you, were you, know putting 2010 01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,680 Speaker 16: a lot of eggs into that basket. There so, YEAH i, 2011 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,760 Speaker 16: AGAIN i understand, that you, know certainly mid, season as 2012 01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,120 Speaker 16: you watched the year played, out or you, know even 2013 01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,160 Speaker 16: kind of the first month or so of the, season you, 2014 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,479 Speaker 16: know maybe that could have been an opportunity to kind 2015 01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,519 Speaker 16: of look at and, say, hey you, know we might 2016 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,519 Speaker 16: run into a situation here at the end of the. 2017 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,800 Speaker 16: Year we could have two tag, candidates and you, know 2018 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,960 Speaker 16: we need to try and get ahead of that right, 2019 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,000 Speaker 16: NOW i could probably listen to that argument a little bit, 2020 01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,000 Speaker 16: More but as far as the off season was, concerned, 2021 01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 16: YEAH i Mean ryman was really the only GUY i 2022 01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 16: feel like we've really discussed in terms of that sort 2023 01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:26,479 Speaker 16: of situation throughout. 2024 01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,680 Speaker 1: Camp the guest Is Kevin bow when you hear, him 2025 01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:30,880 Speaker 1: of course every morning on The Fan Morning Show monday Through, 2026 01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:33,000 Speaker 1: FRIDAY i should, say along With James boyd And Jeff, 2027 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:36,040 Speaker 1: rickert he is on The Java House Coldbrew coffee guest, Line, 2028 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,120 Speaker 1: Kevin let's go back to the and we'll move On 2029 01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,320 Speaker 1: Desire franklin in a. Second but if you look At 2030 01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,400 Speaker 1: Pearson jones AND i think that we have this belief 2031 01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,000 Speaker 1: in our mind that it's got to be now like 2032 01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:48,920 Speaker 1: one or the other or you, KNOW i, mean it's 2033 01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:52,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of fascinating how it's fallen into. This it 2034 01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,840 Speaker 1: seems to, me AND i know it's probably not the, 2035 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,280 Speaker 1: case but it seems to me like foresight has not 2036 01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:58,200 Speaker 1: been a strong suit. 2037 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:04,280 Speaker 3: Here. Right but with that, said my skepticism is. 2038 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:08,000 Speaker 1: THIS i always get concerned when players are free agents 2039 01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,200 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i feel like we fall in love with what 2040 01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:14,200 Speaker 1: they are supposed to be or what they're starting to 2041 01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,080 Speaker 1: show they can be and then all of a sudden you're, 2042 01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:17,479 Speaker 1: like we gotta get, them we gotta get, them we 2043 01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:19,080 Speaker 1: gotta get. Them and you, KNOW i was talking about 2044 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,800 Speaker 1: how you AND i both not just, you but me as, 2045 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,080 Speaker 1: well you, Know Stick Smith Jalen smith with The pacers and, 2046 01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,240 Speaker 1: saying oh my, gosh they absolutely have to have this, 2047 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:28,519 Speaker 1: guy and then you get them and you're, like, hey 2048 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,439 Speaker 1: he's kind of just a. GUY i don't think that's 2049 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,160 Speaker 1: the case with these, two but there has been some 2050 01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:38,400 Speaker 1: glimpse with Both Daniel jones And Alec pierce that you 2051 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,519 Speaker 1: might be spending a lot of money to confirm on 2052 01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:45,800 Speaker 1: something that then reverts back to a less than what 2053 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 1: you were paying for. Purchase which of the two do 2054 01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:50,439 Speaker 1: you think comes with more? 2055 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,479 Speaker 3: Caution, OH i think it's Definitely. 2056 01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,320 Speaker 16: JONES i, MEAN i, MEAN i Think pierce is largely. 2057 01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,280 Speaker 16: Proven even if you just want to boil it down 2058 01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:00,680 Speaker 16: the last two, YEARS. 2059 01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:01,519 Speaker 3: I think he's broken through the. 2060 01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:05,880 Speaker 16: Barrier, yeah because, again let's just focus in the last 2061 01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,320 Speaker 16: two years With pierce and look at the quarterbacks he's, 2062 01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,280 Speaker 16: had you, know the final game of the, season the 2063 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,759 Speaker 16: game he, gets you, know stupidly ejected in he's. 2064 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:14,320 Speaker 3: Doing it With Riley. 2065 01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:17,280 Speaker 16: Leonard obviously he did it With. Jones you, know you 2066 01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,639 Speaker 16: go back to That seattle. Game he made some big 2067 01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,519 Speaker 16: plays With Philip, rivers even If rivers couldn't, cash you, 2068 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:23,880 Speaker 16: know a ton of ball down the. FIELD i actually 2069 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,000 Speaker 16: thought the experience With, rivers he made a couple of 2070 01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:28,519 Speaker 16: plays kind of in that you, know intermediate, level which 2071 01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:31,080 Speaker 16: is probably where he needs some. Growth you, Know richardson and, 2072 01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:34,040 Speaker 16: HIM i think have always had a nice, connection and you, 2073 01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,559 Speaker 16: KNOW i think at times With flacco he was able 2074 01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,519 Speaker 16: to tap into. That so to, me he seems pretty quarterback, 2075 01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,400 Speaker 16: PROOF i guess is HOW i WOULD i would put. 2076 01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:43,800 Speaker 3: It Whereas. 2077 01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:48,040 Speaker 16: Jones it's just even if you Think Daniel jones can 2078 01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,800 Speaker 16: be a good quarterback With Shane, steiken like if you 2079 01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,200 Speaker 16: want to believe, that which you, know again there was 2080 01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:57,040 Speaker 16: evidence last year obviously that he can be. Good if 2081 01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,599 Speaker 16: you want to, say, hey eight games was, enough ten 2082 01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:03,080 Speaker 16: games was, enough that's not a. Mirage you still have 2083 01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:06,200 Speaker 16: the injury. Question you still have like the, wait can 2084 01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:06,840 Speaker 16: this dude stay? 2085 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,000 Speaker 2: Healthy is this? 2086 01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:11,599 Speaker 16: Guy you, KNOW i guess a little Bit Anthony, richardson 2087 01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:15,920 Speaker 16: like in that realm that is a big question. Mark 2088 01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,639 Speaker 16: whereas With, PIERCE i, mean, yes he's had a couple 2089 01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:20,400 Speaker 16: concussions THAT i don't want to just sweep under the, 2090 01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:23,479 Speaker 16: rug but he, has you, know really Had. NO i 2091 01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:26,160 Speaker 16: don't know If pearce has missed a game in THE 2092 01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:30,839 Speaker 16: nfl besides anything other than a, concussion like you, know, ankle, 2093 01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:34,320 Speaker 16: hamstring you, know so he's been, really really durable. 2094 01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:40,600 Speaker 3: Throughout do you Believe Zire franklin will be a cult next? Year? No, 2095 01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:44,760 Speaker 3: No what would you say his fetching price. 2096 01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:49,320 Speaker 5: Is, boy he had not. 2097 01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:53,200 Speaker 3: Much who gets you, More Sire franklin Or Anthony? Richardson, 2098 01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:54,559 Speaker 3: WELL i Think. 2099 01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:58,000 Speaker 16: Richardson we had this debate this. Morning i'd Say richardson 2100 01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,120 Speaker 16: a little bit higher the day three. Pick, obvious he 2101 01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,440 Speaker 16: plays the more important. Position you, know he's younger, financially 2102 01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,880 Speaker 16: it's not that big of a difference between the. Two, 2103 01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:06,759 Speaker 16: YEAH i would. 2104 01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,080 Speaker 3: Say james in. 2105 01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:12,760 Speaker 16: Particular james would was very like he Thinks franklin will be. 2106 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:16,360 Speaker 16: Released he doesn't even think he'll meet a draft. Pick, now, 2107 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,880 Speaker 16: WELL i assume what the cults are hoping for here 2108 01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:21,640 Speaker 16: is that you get him FOR i don't know if 2109 01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:23,679 Speaker 16: they would want to do player for, player just BECAUSE 2110 01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,680 Speaker 16: i think they want the cap. Relief albeit it's only 2111 01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 16: about five, million but at this, point you, know clearly 2112 01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:32,519 Speaker 16: every penny matters to The. Colts but, YEAH i JUST 2113 01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:37,040 Speaker 16: i don't you, know trades in THE, nfl especially for 2114 01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:39,599 Speaker 16: older guys that you know, whatever have a little bit 2115 01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,320 Speaker 16: more of a, contract don't play a premium. Position sounds 2116 01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:45,240 Speaker 16: like it's a good linebacker. CLASS i don't, know but 2117 01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:46,880 Speaker 16: part of me thought you could maybe get like a, 2118 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,439 Speaker 16: seventh that maybe a. SIXTH i, mean how he got 2119 01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:51,920 Speaker 16: so many of Those day three picks and all of. 2120 01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,240 Speaker 16: That BUT i don't. Know james really had me kind 2121 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,160 Speaker 16: of pausing at that when he was pretty adamant about 2122 01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:56,439 Speaker 16: it this. 2123 01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,599 Speaker 3: Morning Kyler, murray where's he ended? 2124 01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:06,120 Speaker 16: Up, YEAH i, MEAN i guess some people have mentioned 2125 01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,080 Speaker 16: The minnesota saying it's kind of, wild how, like. 2126 01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,679 Speaker 2: AND i would come back to this With. 2127 01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:17,200 Speaker 16: Peyton and you obviously were like covering it at the, 2128 01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:21,519 Speaker 16: time but, like are we just done WITH jj, McCarthy 2129 01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,400 Speaker 16: like is he just is this like really like one 2130 01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,280 Speaker 16: year and it's like over over And i'm Not i'm 2131 01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:30,080 Speaker 16: not like pretending to watch episoda Every Minnesota vikings. 2132 01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:30,360 Speaker 2: Game this. 2133 01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:34,040 Speaker 3: Season but, man it is crazy. 2134 01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,800 Speaker 16: How like you can go from oh, yeah we'll Let 2135 01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,400 Speaker 16: Sam darnold walk because we HAVE jj McCarthy and then 2136 01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:42,440 Speaker 16: he plays and you, know obviously he had some. STRUGGLES 2137 01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:43,920 Speaker 16: i don't want to act like he couldn't throw it 2138 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:47,000 Speaker 16: from you know you To eddie right. Now but now 2139 01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,519 Speaker 16: it's just like, no, no, No. 2140 01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,640 Speaker 1: Like, KEVIN i think the indictment on him would be 2141 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:55,320 Speaker 1: he has arguably the best target in the league to 2142 01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,360 Speaker 1: throw to and yet they underperformed. 2143 01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:03,200 Speaker 16: Fair but and, AGAIN i don't want to turn this 2144 01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:05,800 Speaker 16: INTO jj McCarthy versus the Player i'm about to. 2145 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:06,960 Speaker 2: Name but it's. 2146 01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,200 Speaker 16: Almost like an exercise THAT i said we should all 2147 01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,320 Speaker 16: have to do during the. Summer we all should have 2148 01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:13,679 Speaker 16: to go back and watch all sixteen games At Peyton 2149 01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:17,280 Speaker 16: manning's rookie, season and we all should have to like 2150 01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:20,479 Speaker 16: live it in time and be, Like, okay how are 2151 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,360 Speaker 16: you going to talk on That monday after about a 2152 01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,720 Speaker 16: guy that set THE nfl record for most interceptions in a? 2153 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,040 Speaker 16: Year like if social media was, AROUND i mean you, 2154 01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:29,559 Speaker 16: imagine and like. 2155 01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:30,320 Speaker 3: They went three and. 2156 01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,120 Speaker 16: Thirteen it's not like there were you, know they sprinkled 2157 01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:36,040 Speaker 16: in a lot of wins around, that and you know 2158 01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:40,599 Speaker 16: he Had Marvin. Harrison so it just, yeah it's crazy 2159 01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:44,640 Speaker 16: how you know the talk, there and you, KNOW i 2160 01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,400 Speaker 16: guess it is you Know worth pointing, Out yes he 2161 01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,920 Speaker 16: does Have Justin, jefferson as you, said but it's just, like, 2162 01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:50,920 Speaker 16: man is it really over for? Him so, YEAH i 2163 01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:51,840 Speaker 16: guess to get all the way back To. 2164 01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:53,160 Speaker 2: Kyler SO i was kind of rambling. 2165 01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:56,960 Speaker 16: THERE i don't, know would The jets do something, HERE 2166 01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:01,919 Speaker 16: i you, Know, pittsburgh or is like the McCarthy rogers 2167 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:02,840 Speaker 16: thing gonna. 2168 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,680 Speaker 2: HAPPEN i don't Know. Pittsburgh it just seems like. 2169 01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 3: It'd be something. 2170 01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,160 Speaker 16: DIFFERENT i, mean they seemingly are able to make the 2171 01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:08,760 Speaker 16: playoffs every. 2172 01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:10,479 Speaker 3: Year get a breed On Kyler. 2173 01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:14,040 Speaker 1: MURRAY i, mean he has exceptional skill, sets but at 2174 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:17,840 Speaker 1: the same, time it feels like he's kind of a, 2175 01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,160 Speaker 1: consistent like one step, forward one step back, guy you 2176 01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:21,439 Speaker 1: know WHAT i. 2177 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:25,760 Speaker 16: Mean, Yeah and, obviously like the video game thing was 2178 01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 16: like weird and not good at, all and you know 2179 01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,640 Speaker 16: it's all The oakland. AGE gm commented on him. 2180 01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:31,599 Speaker 2: Yesterday i'm, like, well. 2181 01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:33,479 Speaker 16: YEAH i kind of, forgot like we, said Debate Kyler 2182 01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,960 Speaker 16: murray as a baseball. Player so you, know we we 2183 01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:38,600 Speaker 16: did have the debate earlier to, SAY i don't know 2184 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:39,840 Speaker 16: you guys have had. That but you, know there are 2185 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,080 Speaker 16: a couple of listeners that are pretty adamant of If 2186 01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:45,320 Speaker 16: i'm Getting Kyler murray for and let's just throw out 2187 01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:49,840 Speaker 16: a number for thirty million, less twenty million less Than 2188 01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:53,320 Speaker 16: Daniel jones and he's not coming off with torn. Achilles 2189 01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,080 Speaker 16: you can't tell me in a. Vacuum the careers Of 2190 01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:59,280 Speaker 16: Kyler murray And Daniel jones have been that different through 2191 01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,640 Speaker 16: somebody think he's been the better quarterback right, individually you, 2192 01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:06,240 Speaker 16: Know so, yeah that is it just it just seems 2193 01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,080 Speaker 16: like there is a very negative connotation with. HIM i 2194 01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:12,880 Speaker 16: think largely rooted back to the old video game. 2195 01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:15,840 Speaker 1: Clause by the, way that that epiphany about the chicken joke, 2196 01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,160 Speaker 1: though was that WHEN i was saying it would at any, Point, 2197 01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,960 Speaker 1: kevin did you say to, yourself, well this guy's onto. 2198 01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,240 Speaker 3: Something, no, no. 2199 01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,800 Speaker 16: Never, Now, HONESTLY i thought about Hanging there was part 2200 01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:30,719 Speaker 16: of ME i thought about hanging. 2201 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:35,320 Speaker 1: Up hey knocked up a little early today WHEN i 2202 01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,840 Speaker 1: was stunning. Too uh, okay let me read you this in. 2203 01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:39,960 Speaker 1: Conclusion this was sent to me by our Friend. DAN 2204 01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,920 Speaker 1: i think it's interesting on what your perspective on, It, 2205 01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,479 Speaker 1: kevin because you're kind of you, know you And james 2206 01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:47,960 Speaker 1: both obviously are in the trenches with The colts on the. Regular, Hey, 2207 01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,680 Speaker 1: jake as far as The colts, go take a look 2208 01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:53,080 Speaker 1: at the expiring contracts after this. Season i'll bet you 2209 01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,519 Speaker 1: this is the last year For ballard And. Shane the 2210 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,160 Speaker 1: team will be blown up after next, season even if 2211 01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:00,920 Speaker 1: we make the. Playoffs that's Why jones was offered the 2212 01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:04,320 Speaker 1: one year. Contract the real reason to try to Sign 2213 01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:06,320 Speaker 1: pierce to three to four years is to trade him 2214 01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,320 Speaker 1: for picks after this. Season all the players of value 2215 01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,000 Speaker 1: will be traded or not signed or released after this coming. 2216 01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,880 Speaker 1: Season they should have blown, up blown up the season 2217 01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:16,760 Speaker 1: Before wright got fired For Jeff. 2218 01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,360 Speaker 3: Saturday what do you think are they at? 2219 01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:23,479 Speaker 1: It are they coming closely to a crossroads contractually with 2220 01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:24,639 Speaker 1: too many key? 2221 01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:28,599 Speaker 16: Pieces, YEAH i mean they are, Definitely, YES i mean 2222 01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,680 Speaker 16: they are an older group when you think about some 2223 01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:36,840 Speaker 16: of their, CONTRACTS i would agree wholeheartedly they should have cleaned, house, 2224 01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:40,720 Speaker 16: yes after that twenty one, collapse BECAUSE i feel like 2225 01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:42,800 Speaker 16: now they're in the awkward state of, wait who's tied To, 2226 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,280 Speaker 16: ballard who's not tied To. Ballard this is very, weird 2227 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:49,000 Speaker 16: to be honest with. You as far As jones and 2228 01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:52,640 Speaker 16: the one year, deal, again just to refresh everybody on, 2229 01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:56,680 Speaker 16: it that one year. Deal if indeed it plays out that, 2230 01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:01,680 Speaker 16: way that means thirty seven million dollars can fully guaranteed 2231 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:02,960 Speaker 16: For Daniel jones for the. 2232 01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,479 Speaker 2: Season that is not good business for The. 2233 01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:08,120 Speaker 16: Colts like they want to get a long term deal 2234 01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:11,760 Speaker 16: done more so just so they can lower that cap 2235 01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,479 Speaker 16: pit for. Him they can't get a lot of what 2236 01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:17,080 Speaker 16: they want to get. DONE I. E, PIERCE I. E 2237 01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,040 Speaker 16: a big swing of pass. Rusher they don't want all of, 2238 01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,599 Speaker 16: that or they do want all of. 2239 01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,160 Speaker 1: That, Kevin, honestly it feels like there just was not 2240 01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,640 Speaker 1: a lot OF i, know there is, FORESIGHT i Mean 2241 01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,400 Speaker 1: i'm not but, it but it feels like there, isn't 2242 01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:33,559 Speaker 1: does it. Not it feels like they just did not 2243 01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:39,400 Speaker 1: think through the implications or the ramifications of some of 2244 01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:43,360 Speaker 1: the moves that they, made or what the you, know 2245 01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:46,519 Speaker 1: what the resulting things could happen if they did or 2246 01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:47,360 Speaker 1: didn't make certain. 2247 01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:53,040 Speaker 3: Things AM i being too critical? Here? NO i MEAN i. 2248 01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:55,960 Speaker 16: Think you're onto SOMETHING i do, think you, know when 2249 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,840 Speaker 16: you have two tag candidates like they, do that does 2250 01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,240 Speaker 16: make it a little bit. Difficult you, know if he's 2251 01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:04,519 Speaker 16: going to live in a. Vacuum The colts have one 2252 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,960 Speaker 16: of the better quarterbacks and one of the better wideouts 2253 01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:10,040 Speaker 16: here in free. Agency that obviously means something to. You, 2254 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,640 Speaker 16: now granted it's not a great quarterback class, here and you, 2255 01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:16,680 Speaker 16: know people are still very, skeptical understandably On Daniel. Jones but, 2256 01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:21,280 Speaker 16: again to, ME i would have Tagged pierce and they 2257 01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:21,880 Speaker 16: are trying to. 2258 01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:22,759 Speaker 2: Call Daniel jones'. 2259 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:26,120 Speaker 16: Bluff, well one way or the, other you're you're you're. 2260 01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:26,560 Speaker 3: Trying to call his. 2261 01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:31,040 Speaker 16: Bluff and to, me you, KNOW i think you'd have 2262 01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,400 Speaker 16: had a better chance to and who, knows we'll. See 2263 01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:35,800 Speaker 16: i'll play that better chance to get something done with. 2264 01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:38,040 Speaker 16: Him to, ME i only SEE i guess one to 2265 01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:42,360 Speaker 16: two potential suitors for, Him whereas With, PIERCE i think 2266 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:43,880 Speaker 16: you can make the case you can get to about 2267 01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:47,360 Speaker 16: six eight something along those. Lines and With, jones he's 2268 01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:48,960 Speaker 16: got to look in the mirror and say to, himself 2269 01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:53,000 Speaker 16: my best chance for success is largely With Shane, Stiken 2270 01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:57,719 Speaker 16: like he just resurrected me Without Shane. STIKEN i don't 2271 01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,800 Speaker 16: know IF i can do something in this league of note, 2272 01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,920 Speaker 16: here whereas With, pierce, again to, me he's proven he 2273 01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:04,639 Speaker 16: can be quarterback. 2274 01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:05,680 Speaker 2: Proof SO. 2275 01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:09,280 Speaker 16: I don't know if there's as much of like A 2276 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,200 Speaker 16: pierce likes the coaching, staff BUT i don't know if 2277 01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,160 Speaker 16: there's a much of a boy without. THEM i don't 2278 01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:18,360 Speaker 16: know If i'm anything wor's With jones unless he doesn't 2279 01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:18,880 Speaker 16: want to admit. 2280 01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:20,120 Speaker 3: IT i think there's a lot of truth to, That. 2281 01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,320 Speaker 4: Kevin would you rather Have Michael Pittman junior at twenty 2282 01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:25,599 Speaker 4: nine million dollars No Alec? Pierce or would you rather 2283 01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:27,479 Speaker 4: Have Alec pierce at twenty nine million dollars and Know 2284 01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:28,080 Speaker 4: Michael Pittman. 2285 01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:33,040 Speaker 5: Jr it's said to me one more, Time, pierce. 2286 01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,720 Speaker 4: Would you rather Have Michael Pittman. Jr the twenty nine 2287 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,519 Speaker 4: million dollars that he's due for this upcoming season but 2288 01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,720 Speaker 4: No Alec? Pierce or would you rather have twenty nine 2289 01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:44,679 Speaker 4: million dollars For Alec pierce and Know Michael Pittman? 2290 01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:46,799 Speaker 2: Jr oh, yeah, Easily. 2291 01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:48,840 Speaker 16: PIERCE I i thought that so you said the first, 2292 01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:50,920 Speaker 16: time BUT i wasn't one hundred percent Shore, yeah Definitely. 2293 01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:51,240 Speaker 7: Pierce. 2294 01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,800 Speaker 16: Yeah, again it's easier to find A pittman than it 2295 01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,679 Speaker 16: is A pierce in terms of their their skill. SETS 2296 01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,040 Speaker 16: i think there was fifteen or twenty guys that caught 2297 01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:01,559 Speaker 16: as many balls As pittman this last, year and no 2298 01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:03,360 Speaker 16: one had more yards for catch Than. 2299 01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,280 Speaker 3: Pierce so then why are they making this so? Difficult 2300 01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:08,160 Speaker 3: it's the. 2301 01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:13,719 Speaker 16: COLD seti, WELL i think, AGAIN i Think. Pierce, NOW 2302 01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,120 Speaker 16: i mean the balls In pierce's. Court they have no 2303 01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,439 Speaker 16: control Over. PIERCE i, MEAN i, mean that's what's the 2304 01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,840 Speaker 16: difficult nature to. It you, know to solve all of, 2305 01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:22,840 Speaker 16: this you would have had to have tagged. Him so 2306 01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:27,799 Speaker 16: once you didn't tag, him now that's where it's opened 2307 01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:28,200 Speaker 16: up the. 2308 01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:30,479 Speaker 2: Risk, YEAH i, mean, IDEALLY i. 2309 01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:33,680 Speaker 16: Think they would love to have you, know if you 2310 01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:36,440 Speaker 16: ask them that, question they would answer it the same 2311 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:40,160 Speaker 16: WAY i just Did. Pierce BUT i think they are 2312 01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:44,960 Speaker 16: trying to do as much as they can in terms 2313 01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:48,640 Speaker 16: of the. Checklists they are And penny pinching and and 2314 01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,880 Speaker 16: all of that is, clear but they are trying to all, 2315 01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:54,520 Speaker 16: right is there some way somehow we can Get, jones 2316 01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:58,400 Speaker 16: Get pierce and take a swing at defensive? 2317 01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,560 Speaker 3: END I, Hey, jake we can get all the answer 2318 01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:01,720 Speaker 3: in the. 2319 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:06,120 Speaker 1: Draft Elijah, Surat you, KNOW i mean the problem, is 2320 01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:08,600 Speaker 1: AND i know That indiana fans Love, surat Love. Cooper 2321 01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:11,760 Speaker 1: the problem is we have seen wide receiver does take 2322 01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,320 Speaker 1: longer to kind of get rolling in THE nfl than other. 2323 01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:16,000 Speaker 1: Positions and if you've got to go with a window 2324 01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:19,200 Speaker 1: of a one year With Daniel, jones you, know things 2325 01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:22,640 Speaker 1: become interesting. There, kevin the weather is starting to cooperate 2326 01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,800 Speaker 1: for the. Weekend certainly have a wonderful weekend and enjoy 2327 01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:26,720 Speaker 1: telling that joke to the. 2328 01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:28,640 Speaker 3: Kids, yeah text me that. 2329 01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:30,720 Speaker 16: JOKE i want to make sure that THAT i get it. 2330 01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:32,080 Speaker 16: RIGHT i don't want to skimp anything. 2331 01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:34,280 Speaker 1: There, well why did the chicken cross the road to 2332 01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:37,120 Speaker 1: get to the other? Side easy one to? Remember double? 2333 01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:41,720 Speaker 1: Meaning see any double meaning on the other. Side fifty 2334 01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:43,600 Speaker 1: three and a half in three days BEFORE i figured that. 2335 01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:49,240 Speaker 1: Out all, Right, Kevin thanks appreciate it. Later that's a 2336 01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,760 Speaker 1: guy that couldn't wait to get out of that, conversation. 2337 01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:56,560 Speaker 4: RIGHT i WISH i could get out of the conversation too, well, 2338 01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:58,720 Speaker 4: listen BUT i can't hang up the phone and just 2339 01:55:58,760 --> 01:55:59,280 Speaker 4: go about my. 2340 01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:00,680 Speaker 3: Day when we come. 2341 01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,480 Speaker 1: Back it is A Franciscan, Health Feel, Good good for 2342 01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:08,760 Speaker 1: The Heart friday and sometimes and in this, STORY i 2343 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:13,880 Speaker 1: think personifies a lot of things that are important about 2344 01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:19,240 Speaker 1: this segment of this program flip and see, aside and 2345 01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:23,960 Speaker 1: it involves a, heartbreak a, heartache and a heart mend 2346 01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:24,920 Speaker 1: on The west side Of. 2347 01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:26,360 Speaker 3: Indianapolis we'll get to all of it. 2348 01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:30,400 Speaker 1: Next it is A, friday it is the bottom of 2349 01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:32,400 Speaker 1: the two o'clock. Hour that means it is time for 2350 01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:35,320 Speaker 1: A Franciscan, Health Feel, Good good for The Heart. Friday 2351 01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:41,440 Speaker 1: and this certainly is a story that doesn't start in 2352 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:45,840 Speaker 1: a happy, way BUT i think you can certainly say 2353 01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:52,320 Speaker 1: when you talk about, family, faith, friends it has somewhat 2354 01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:55,880 Speaker 1: of a happy twist to it because it's about people 2355 01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:59,960 Speaker 1: rallying together and it takes place on The west side Of. 2356 01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,880 Speaker 1: Indianapolis i'd like to tip the cap IF i, could 2357 01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:07,480 Speaker 1: To eli Gain over At channel, thirteen who was the 2358 01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:09,560 Speaker 1: first really to bring this to my. Attention BUT i, 2359 01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:11,640 Speaker 1: thought because of the fact that when it comes to 2360 01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:15,720 Speaker 1: heart health At, franciscan one of the things That franciscan 2361 01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:17,600 Speaker 1: said to, me they, Said, jake we need to really 2362 01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,520 Speaker 1: make sure as well for your, listeners not just your 2363 01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:24,480 Speaker 1: thirty nine female, listeners but also you know the men 2364 01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:28,880 Speaker 1: that listen to your program for their, wives their, coworkers their. 2365 01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:30,480 Speaker 3: Daughters that heart. 2366 01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:32,280 Speaker 1: Health is so important when it comes to women as 2367 01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:38,440 Speaker 1: well oftentimes because cardiovascular you, know heart disease doesn't have 2368 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:41,600 Speaker 1: the same symptom in women as it does in. Men 2369 01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:43,360 Speaker 1: And i'm going to give you all the information about 2370 01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,720 Speaker 1: how to get that forty nine dollars heart scan and 2371 01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,320 Speaker 1: get the heart health risk. Assessment BUT i want to 2372 01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,320 Speaker 1: tell the story of what is taking place right now 2373 01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:52,920 Speaker 1: on the west side Of indianapolis with the twenty nine 2374 01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:56,520 Speaker 1: and two that is, correct twenty nine and Two Marion 2375 01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:00,240 Speaker 1: knight's women's basketball, team and they're fantastic coach who's been 2376 01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:03,600 Speaker 1: on the, PROGRAM i, believe Before Santana anderson joining us 2377 01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,920 Speaker 1: on The Java House Coldbrew coffee Guest line to talk 2378 01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:10,520 Speaker 1: about what's taking place At Mary And first, Off, COACH 2379 01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,880 Speaker 1: i appreciate on short notice and enduring a very busy 2380 01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:15,160 Speaker 1: time your time. 2381 01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:15,800 Speaker 3: Today how are you? 2382 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,360 Speaker 9: Good no, problem not a, Problem i'm doing. 2383 01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, hey let's begin with. This you have a team 2384 01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:25,160 Speaker 1: here that you're getting set to go into postseason. Play 2385 01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:28,840 Speaker 1: you're getting ready to take On, haskell WHICH i know 2386 01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:32,200 Speaker 1: because it's In, Laurence, kansas just about three blocks away 2387 01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:35,960 Speaker 1: from The university Of kansas Where Jim thorpe began his athletic. 2388 01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:40,480 Speaker 1: Career but this season started out for you at fourteen to, 2389 01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:43,520 Speaker 1: zero and everything's clicking along and it's going, great and 2390 01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:47,240 Speaker 1: it's going great largely because Of abby McNally and her 2391 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:52,120 Speaker 1: sister who plays for you as, Well kylie. McNally and 2392 01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:55,560 Speaker 1: then all of a, sudden perhaps something that you didn't 2393 01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:59,200 Speaker 1: anticipate in coaching that you would have to deal with takes. 2394 01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:03,440 Speaker 1: Place can you take me through and our, listeners the 2395 01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:06,360 Speaker 1: tragedy that took place for your basketball team On New Year's? 2396 01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:06,600 Speaker 3: Day? 2397 01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:12,680 Speaker 9: Uh, yes it was a normal. Day started out. Normal 2398 01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,640 Speaker 9: we got, up we had practice that, day and then 2399 01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:19,440 Speaker 9: the kids kind of went back, to you, know the 2400 01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:22,840 Speaker 9: dorms in their homes AND i was scouting for a, 2401 01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,920 Speaker 9: game big game that we had conference game Against taylor 2402 01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,680 Speaker 9: That saturday coming. Up SO i was kind of laying 2403 01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,680 Speaker 9: on my couch just, scouting and THEN i got a 2404 01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:33,080 Speaker 9: call from The. 2405 01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:33,640 Speaker 5: Twins. 2406 01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,680 Speaker 9: Uh and THEY i thought they were kind of joking 2407 01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:39,880 Speaker 9: initially because they like, to you, know prank me all the, 2408 01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:43,200 Speaker 9: time BUT i can hear it in their voice that 2409 01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:45,760 Speaker 9: there was something was. Wrong SO i kind of dropped 2410 01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:49,440 Speaker 9: everything and and and ran over to their. House and 2411 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:53,600 Speaker 9: AS i was getting, there one of the siblings have 2412 01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:56,800 Speaker 9: reached out to me and asked me to give him a, 2413 01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:59,360 Speaker 9: call and SO i gave him a call and he 2414 01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:02,160 Speaker 9: kind of let me know what was going on and 2415 02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:05,520 Speaker 9: let me know, that you, Know ms McNally didn't make, 2416 02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:07,800 Speaker 9: it and they wanted me to be at the home 2417 02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:10,840 Speaker 9: with the, kid with the girls when they when they 2418 02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:14,800 Speaker 9: told them so, obvious a lot a lot of emotion 2419 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,600 Speaker 9: in that, day BUT i knew, that you, KNOW i 2420 02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:20,840 Speaker 9: had to be the strong one for the. 2421 02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Twins and their, Mother kathy McNally passed away at the 2422 02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:28,280 Speaker 1: age of sixty from a heart. Attack that took, PLACE 2423 02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:30,440 Speaker 1: i believe in The cincinnati. Area that's where they are. 2424 02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:34,080 Speaker 1: From but so now you have this, situation, coach where 2425 02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:37,560 Speaker 1: you have two players and you know and one of, 2426 02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:40,200 Speaker 1: them you, know the conference player of the, Year abby 2427 02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:44,400 Speaker 1: is both of them first Team All conference. Players but 2428 02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:47,920 Speaker 1: in that, situation your team's, Undefeated you're getting ready to 2429 02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:50,320 Speaker 1: take On, taylor and in that game and we'll get 2430 02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:52,760 Speaker 1: to what happened, there WHICH i find spectacular and. 2431 02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:53,640 Speaker 3: Remarkable but. 2432 02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:59,360 Speaker 1: How did you approach it and how did you what 2433 02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:05,040 Speaker 1: was it THAT i guess rallied everyone together and what 2434 02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:06,720 Speaker 1: was the you, know what was the proper? 2435 02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:07,320 Speaker 3: Response? 2436 02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:12,240 Speaker 9: Uh, so you, KNOW i kind of reached out, to 2437 02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,800 Speaker 9: uh some of the, parents reached out to the teammates 2438 02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:19,000 Speaker 9: and kind of instantly got the as much as many 2439 02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:21,240 Speaker 9: ten minutes AS i could to come to their house 2440 02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:24,040 Speaker 9: and just kind of console and be with them WHILE 2441 02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:27,000 Speaker 9: i was trying to work outside of the house and 2442 02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:30,240 Speaker 9: kind of navigate what the next step was gonna. Be, 2443 02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:35,640 Speaker 9: obviously you, KNOW i hadn't been in that situation, before so, 2444 02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:41,440 Speaker 9: uh it was very very emotional. Time but you, KNOW 2445 02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:44,320 Speaker 9: i had the support of people THAT i reached out 2446 02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:47,280 Speaker 9: through through from MARYON I neyver kind of helped, me 2447 02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:51,720 Speaker 9: helped me navigate through what our next steps. Were and 2448 02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:55,240 Speaker 9: then a few parents kind of helped out as. Well 2449 02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:59,680 Speaker 9: they offered that their kids can drive the girls, home 2450 02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:04,080 Speaker 9: and so that's what. Happened we ended up finding two 2451 02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:07,400 Speaker 9: teammates to drive them back, home AND i wanted to 2452 02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:10,120 Speaker 9: make sure that they got home, safely so kind of 2453 02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:13,360 Speaker 9: stayed in contact with the teammates as they were driving them. 2454 02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:17,280 Speaker 9: Home and, then you, KNOW i fully expected them to 2455 02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:20,160 Speaker 9: be gone for some. TIME i didn't think, that you, 2456 02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:23,320 Speaker 9: know they would come come back so quickly they reached 2457 02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:26,640 Speaker 9: out to. Me kylie called me the next morning and, 2458 02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:29,800 Speaker 9: said Coach sonny were coming back to. Campus and you, 2459 02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:32,080 Speaker 9: KNOW i was just asking them in that moment if 2460 02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,960 Speaker 9: they were absolutely sure THAT i knew that they that 2461 02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:38,480 Speaker 9: was more important than. Basketball they needed to be with their. 2462 02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:42,160 Speaker 9: Family and then mister McNally got the phone and kind 2463 02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:45,040 Speaker 9: of just let me know, that you, know that's not 2464 02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:47,680 Speaker 9: What kathy would. Want she wouldn't want the girls sitting. 2465 02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:51,880 Speaker 9: Around she want them competing in the sport that they 2466 02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,080 Speaker 9: loved and the sports that she enjoyed and loved watching 2467 02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:58,520 Speaker 9: them compete. In and so ultimately they decided to come 2468 02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:00,920 Speaker 9: back the next, day which was That. 2469 02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Friday and this is. Remarkable your next game is two days. 2470 02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:09,080 Speaker 1: Later you go To. Taylor AND i know a little About. 2471 02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:12,800 Speaker 1: Taylor i've been To Silent. NIGHT i know what the 2472 02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:15,720 Speaker 1: faith means At, taylor AND i know about the people At. 2473 02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:19,360 Speaker 1: Taylor and the same is true Of. Marion abby goes 2474 02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:22,560 Speaker 1: out in that game after that after saying to, you 2475 02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:25,600 Speaker 1: we need to do, this we need to continue. On 2476 02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:28,760 Speaker 1: she goes ten to fifteen from the. Floor she has 2477 02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:32,720 Speaker 1: twenty nine points and seventeen. Rebounds her sister adds ten, 2478 02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,960 Speaker 1: points and you guys win by. Fourteen, yes at that, 2479 02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:39,640 Speaker 1: point did you? Realize AND i don't mean, TRULY i 2480 02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:42,520 Speaker 1: understand there's nothing that replaces parents and siblings and that 2481 02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:45,360 Speaker 1: sort of a. Thing but is there any greater example 2482 02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:48,080 Speaker 1: of the fact that your team was their second. 2483 02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:52,760 Speaker 9: Family, YES i, mean we we pride ourselves far as 2484 02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:56,440 Speaker 9: our culture and the program as. Family so we we 2485 02:03:56,800 --> 02:04:01,960 Speaker 9: were behind the McNally family. One and so you, know 2486 02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:05,200 Speaker 9: when when preparing for that, game as we arrived To 2487 02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:09,720 Speaker 9: taylor and preparation of us going, OUT i knew the 2488 02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:13,080 Speaker 9: emotions of not Only abby And kylie were all, over 2489 02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:16,320 Speaker 9: but the other players as. Well so in my pregame 2490 02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:18,600 Speaker 9: speech just kind of you, know before we took the, 2491 02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:21,280 Speaker 9: FLOOR i just looked at him and told, them, everybody, 2492 02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:24,800 Speaker 9: just you, know take a deep. Breath we're gonna get through. 2493 02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,000 Speaker 9: This we're gonna go out there and, battle AND i, 2494 02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:30,480 Speaker 9: think you know it becomes it. Was it. Was it was. 2495 02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,360 Speaker 9: Big you, know our goals have always been. Big but 2496 02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:37,800 Speaker 9: the purpose got. Bigger it grew bigger because when one 2497 02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:40,600 Speaker 9: family member, hurt everybody. Hurt and so we just kind 2498 02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:44,320 Speaker 9: of rallied, around rallied around the twins and around each 2499 02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:48,200 Speaker 9: other to kind of keep them uplifted and motivated as, 2500 02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:52,040 Speaker 9: they you, know started to deal with and process the 2501 02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:53,040 Speaker 9: passing of their. 2502 02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Mother did it also for, you coach in terms of 2503 02:04:57,960 --> 02:04:59,760 Speaker 1: dealing with all of us In Tanna anderson is my. 2504 02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Guess she is the head basketball coach At Marion university 2505 02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:06,160 Speaker 1: for the women's basketball, program standing at twenty nine and 2506 02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:11,600 Speaker 1: two right? Now did it offer for you a new 2507 02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:15,360 Speaker 1: definition of? Coach because you know WHAT i, mean we 2508 02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:17,280 Speaker 1: think of coach meeting like x's and those and do, 2509 02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:21,320 Speaker 1: this but but, yeah you're a life coach as, well 2510 02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:24,200 Speaker 1: for any coach at that level of people of that. 2511 02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Age did that sink into? 2512 02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:30,720 Speaker 9: You oh, yeah, absolutely you know it's for. 2513 02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:31,840 Speaker 7: Me it is. 2514 02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:36,080 Speaker 9: Bigger it's bigger than basketball and a relationship THAT i, 2515 02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:39,440 Speaker 9: have you know with my. Players you, know they can 2516 02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:44,680 Speaker 9: come to me for, anything and so it just it 2517 02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:49,280 Speaker 9: put me into my. Mode you, KNOW i have one biological. 2518 02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:51,480 Speaker 9: Child everybody, says you know how many kids you, Got 2519 02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:55,160 Speaker 9: but these my, PLAYERS i treat them as my own 2520 02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:59,000 Speaker 9: because their their parents have you, know trusted me to 2521 02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:01,240 Speaker 9: take care of them while they're away from. Home so 2522 02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:05,480 Speaker 9: HOW i treat my daughter is HOW i treat my 2523 02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:08,640 Speaker 9: players as. Well SO i kind of just stepped right 2524 02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:12,520 Speaker 9: in the Coach moe went completely out and then that, 2525 02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:15,440 Speaker 9: mom that mom and that nurturing mode step. 2526 02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:17,360 Speaker 3: Game one week from. 2527 02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Tonight the opponent will Be Haskell Indian Nations university that 2528 02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:23,400 Speaker 1: is out Of, Lawrence. Kansas but the game is here 2529 02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:27,680 Speaker 1: In indianapolis five point. Thirty it is THE naia First 2530 02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:29,560 Speaker 1: round For mary and they have. 2531 02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:31,800 Speaker 3: WON i believe you've won what nine? Straight? Coach is 2532 02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:35,680 Speaker 3: that right heading into the, Postseason, well we won eleven? 2533 02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:37,760 Speaker 3: Straight eleven. STRAIGHT i sold you to short. 2534 02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:43,240 Speaker 1: THERE i apologize and with, that you, know, LISTEN i 2535 02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:45,800 Speaker 1: obviously everybody would hope And i'm sure you do as, 2536 02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:48,880 Speaker 1: well that this that there is not another loss, there, 2537 02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:51,960 Speaker 1: Right AND i mean that on the basketball, floor because 2538 02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:54,400 Speaker 1: there is no loss that can equate to the one 2539 02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:56,760 Speaker 1: that you dealt with In. January BUT i wanted to 2540 02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,200 Speaker 1: tip the cap to, you, really to not only, you 2541 02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:03,080 Speaker 1: but your players as, well and To abby And kylie 2542 02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:08,000 Speaker 1: as well for handling what is truly a traumatic, situation 2543 02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:12,680 Speaker 1: but showing what happens between you, know, perseverance love and 2544 02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:15,400 Speaker 1: faith and, teamwork and that's what it's all. 2545 02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:17,000 Speaker 3: About AND i commend you for. 2546 02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:19,000 Speaker 9: That thank. YOU i appreciate it. 2547 02:07:19,400 --> 02:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Again The Maryan knights one week from, tonight appreciate the 2548 02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:26,040 Speaker 1: time from Coach Santana anderson and. Folks that's that's What 2549 02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:29,120 Speaker 1: i'm talking. About this is obviously a situation that is 2550 02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:32,040 Speaker 1: never you, know when you're talking about the loss of a, 2551 02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:35,800 Speaker 1: parent two girls that will miss their, Mother kathy McNally 2552 02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:38,080 Speaker 1: who inspires Now marian for the rest of the year 2553 02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:41,480 Speaker 1: and for a very long time obviously for all of that. 2554 02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Team but the example from the woman you just heard from, 2555 02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:48,720 Speaker 1: there from her, players to be able to band together 2556 02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:51,160 Speaker 1: and find some sort of a, strength that's what it's all. 2557 02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:55,160 Speaker 1: About you, know all of us have those moments where 2558 02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:58,120 Speaker 1: we try to be as strong as we can. 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Choose he 2635 02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:54,640 Speaker 1: is there, Now, John that is as good a spot 2636 02:11:54,680 --> 02:11:56,680 Speaker 1: as any as there is to be on a daylight 2637 02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:57,160 Speaker 1: today at The. 2638 02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:02,480 Speaker 17: Dugout we're off Of Virginia avenue at The, Dugout Nick baxter's, 2639 02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:05,280 Speaker 17: place which is. Awesome coor's life brings us to you 2640 02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:08,040 Speaker 17: on what is a spectacular. Day And, jake here's something. 2641 02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:10,560 Speaker 17: INTERESTING i was talking To nick about this a little bit. 2642 02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:14,560 Speaker 17: Earlier we're almost five days two a year to the, 2643 02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:17,400 Speaker 17: Date march the eleventh of twenty twenty. Five a year, 2644 02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:19,800 Speaker 17: ago it was a day similar to, this AND i 2645 02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:22,600 Speaker 17: was downtown and that was A tuesday night when The 2646 02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:25,280 Speaker 17: bucks played The pacers and The pacers got that four 2647 02:12:25,320 --> 02:12:28,960 Speaker 17: point play in the corner From Tyrese, halliburton and if you, 2648 02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:31,680 Speaker 17: REMEMBER i thought that that was the signature moment when 2649 02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:35,040 Speaker 17: things really became evident this team could be in. It 2650 02:12:35,240 --> 02:12:38,080 Speaker 17: and it was the same type of day as it 2651 02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:41,360 Speaker 17: was out hit, today WHICH i find incredibly, interesting if 2652 02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:43,800 Speaker 17: for nothing, else uh for fodder. 2653 02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:47,400 Speaker 1: Unization mo From ohio came over for that game with 2654 02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:50,040 Speaker 1: me and he grew up A bucks, fan and that 2655 02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:52,680 Speaker 1: game looked all but. Over and Then, yeah the other thing, 2656 02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:54,080 Speaker 1: too is you thought that was going to be their 2657 02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:56,880 Speaker 1: signature moment of the season in terms of how could 2658 02:12:56,880 --> 02:13:00,120 Speaker 1: you get something more? Exciting and lo and bed, oh 2659 02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:01,720 Speaker 1: we had no idea what we were in, for, Right, 2660 02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:03,840 Speaker 1: nope we do. 2661 02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:06,840 Speaker 17: Now unfortunately we know what we're in for later lunch 2662 02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:10,720 Speaker 17: and night against The. Lakers But, jake this is supposed 2663 02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:13,640 Speaker 17: too much like this day hopefully does it's a precursor 2664 02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:17,360 Speaker 17: to much better things to. Come what's on The Big? 2665 02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:21,360 Speaker 17: Show John Don, Fisher voice of The. Hoosiers they gonna must, Win, 2666 02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:24,800 Speaker 17: jake coming up. Tomorrow i'm assuming don't they over In? Columbus, 2667 02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:27,480 Speaker 17: YEAH i would fishure we Got Bob LOVELL i Would, 2668 02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:30,760 Speaker 17: now if they lose this, game will they be bounced 2669 02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:33,240 Speaker 17: out of the? Tournament you? 2670 02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:33,480 Speaker 3: Think? 2671 02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:36,840 Speaker 17: Now lonardi said that it could be iffy if they, 2672 02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,600 Speaker 17: Lose but if you, win you put yourself in a solid. 2673 02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:40,680 Speaker 2: Position what say, You. 2674 02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:44,240 Speaker 1: YEAH i think if they, lose they can, recoup but 2675 02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:45,960 Speaker 1: they probably need to win two of them in The 2676 02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:48,120 Speaker 1: Big ten tournament to feel totally. Safe and of course 2677 02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of that Depends john on how many Big 2678 02:13:50,320 --> 02:13:53,080 Speaker 1: steelers you, get, right BECAUSE i do think, PERSONALLY i 2679 02:13:53,120 --> 02:13:54,280 Speaker 1: Think Miami whio's. 2680 02:13:54,320 --> 02:13:56,120 Speaker 3: IN i, mean if you go thirty to. 2681 02:13:56,200 --> 02:13:58,520 Speaker 1: Zero but let's say that they get to the finals 2682 02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:01,680 Speaker 1: of THE mac tournament and then they, lose there's a big, stealer, 2683 02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:04,040 Speaker 1: right and that's what you got to avoid stuff like. 2684 02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:06,560 Speaker 1: That BUT i think if they if they lose To 2685 02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:08,680 Speaker 1: Ohio state and win two in The Big ten, TOURNAMENT 2686 02:14:08,720 --> 02:14:10,760 Speaker 1: i think they probably get themselves back on the right 2687 02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:11,280 Speaker 1: side of the. 2688 02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:13,920 Speaker 3: Bubble but bottom, line as you win In, COLUMBUS i 2689 02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:17,120 Speaker 3: think you're. In. YEAH i would agree with you on that. 2690 02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:20,280 Speaker 17: Too Boiler maker's got a Senior day coming up tomorrow 2691 02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:24,240 Speaker 17: and macki Wes lofiet Versus. Wisconsin we'll talk about That 2692 02:14:24,280 --> 02:14:27,600 Speaker 17: Bob Lovell sectional semi Final friday, night which is awesome 2693 02:14:27,640 --> 02:14:29,920 Speaker 17: for The. Fellas coming up later on this, Evening Brandon, 2694 02:14:29,960 --> 02:14:32,320 Speaker 17: gordon the former voice of The, DOGS i think the 2695 02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:34,280 Speaker 17: voice of The Atlanta braves also is going to be 2696 02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:36,800 Speaker 17: in the rotation in THE ncaa. Tournament he's going to 2697 02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:38,760 Speaker 17: join us a little bit later, on so you, know 2698 02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:41,360 Speaker 17: we're locked and loaded with. That and if ANY nfl 2699 02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:44,480 Speaker 17: news comes. Down so Wherever Alec pearce ends up landing 2700 02:14:44,720 --> 02:14:47,600 Speaker 17: outside of here In Central, indiana you think this day 2701 02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:50,280 Speaker 17: would Sell Alec pierce on staying, Here, Jake what do you, think? 2702 02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:52,440 Speaker 3: Boy if he goes over to the, dugout it would? 2703 02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:56,320 Speaker 17: Right oh, Man and we could have him trip the. 2704 02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:59,560 Speaker 17: Light fantastic for a couple of. Minutes buddy's not. 2705 02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Careful oh all, Right, john enjoy, it have a wonderful. 2706 02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:05,160 Speaker 1: Weekend we'll be listening to the takeover tomorrow night as, 2707 02:15:05,200 --> 02:15:07,320 Speaker 1: well and we'll throw it out To john in just 2708 02:15:07,360 --> 02:15:09,960 Speaker 1: a couple of. Minutes for all the rest of, YOU 2709 02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:12,120 Speaker 1: i thank you for listening To Aquarying. 2710 02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:13,680 Speaker 3: Company back with you at noon On, monday