1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning show 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan, 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: they seesed a fan morning show with KB JB and Jeff. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Can I try and stump. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 3: You guys on Super Bowl Trivia the man with the 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 3: most catches in a Super Bowl game? James Boyd, Jeff 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: Ricord and I'm checking Internet browsers over there, and I'm 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: not checking up for the same reasons. 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: HR checks Mark Dyke. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 4: Did I think he's trying to watch some illegal channels here? 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: I don't think you guys can get at the rest 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: of the show. 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 5: Well, and Julian Edelman, that's my pick. Let the record 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 5: tell that I gave my prediction. Jeff, you better give one, 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 5: because if we go to break and you come back 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 5: and give one and it is right, I'm not buying 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 5: it you either, Mark, Jeff, you got to give a name, brother. 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 6: Or might be like a Damerius Thomas. But I kind 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 6: of like your answer though. 20 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 5: James, Oh, I don't take my answer no, but I 21 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 5: think I think you might. 22 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 7: Is it one of those guys that cut a million 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 7: passes out of the backfield for the Patriots? Remember they 24 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 7: used to have that all long line of guys that 25 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 7: they would just keep throwing the ball out to out 26 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 7: of the backfield. 27 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: And we'll see Jeff's looking at the text line, man and. 28 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 6: Man, Andy said, James, it's not true. 29 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 8: That's a line. 30 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 9: You are a liar, lies a lie, You sit on 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 9: a throne of lies. 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 6: Is that the right answer? 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: Man? 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: You didn't even have to walk to the bathroom all 35 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: of a sudden your eyes. 36 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 6: I'm looking. 37 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 7: I'm looking at the text line and a guy on 38 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 7: the point that. 39 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 6: I hadn't thought about that. 40 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: I don't know here no internet browser. Did you miss 41 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 2: that part? 42 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 8: Is? 43 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 6: Here's what I will say. 44 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 7: I brought that up without saying a name because I 45 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 7: didn't want to say the name and didn't want to 46 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 7: steal it from the. 47 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 6: Guy that I was going to get credit. 48 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: To break gets the b s more than I did 49 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: when we drank that Mao coffee. 50 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 5: Gosh, I did not name the. 51 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 6: Name on purpose. I lied about that too. 52 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: Boy, that integrity went out the window pretty quickly there. 53 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 7: Did I say the name? Did I say the name? 54 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 7: I was gonna give Andy credit? I also said before 55 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 7: that I had no idea if it wasn't to Mary 56 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 7: as Thomas or Julian Edelman, no idea, I. 57 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: Don't know. 58 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: I guess it is rollowchick craft. 59 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: Don't get into the hall of fame that Jeff decides 60 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: to wear that hat. 61 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 7: As always, I'm staring at the text line to see 62 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 7: the wonderful, intelligent, thoughtful things that people say. Andy S 63 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 7: had an answer. It made sense in my head. But 64 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 7: I didn't say that. 65 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 6: I said. I would have guessed to Marius Thomas. 66 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: That's what I said, Mark, Mark, and S got the credit. 67 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 6: Let's running back right now. 68 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 5: Just play it again. We got people in here and 69 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 5: misremembering how things went down on the show. Play again, Mark, though, 70 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 5: play it again. Kevin. If you want duct more points 71 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: today for not falling on the sword, you do that. 72 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: It's the reason why he was tossing and turning a 73 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: whole lot last night. 74 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 75 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 5: Hard to sleep after that one. 76 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a tough one right there. But no, Andy 77 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 6: S was the guy that came up with out of 78 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 6: everybody here. You came up with it because you found 79 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 6: you stumbled across it. 80 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 10: Bud. 81 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 6: I will not be I will not be uh roughed 82 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 6: up over that one. 83 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 11: I knew the answer because I had James White on 84 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 11: my fantasy team, and that year is that's of course 85 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 11: the Super Bowl. 86 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 10: He went off. 87 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 11: I'm like, where was that all year? You didn't do 88 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 11: anything for me all season, and then you do that 89 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 11: in the Super Bowl. 90 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 6: My goodness, Welcome into the Fan. That's it. 91 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 7: That's the Fan morning show right here, ninety three five 92 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 7: and one on seven to five of the Fan. 93 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 6: You look at me like you're disappointed in a family member. 94 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 5: James disappointed, Jeff disappointed pretty ear to ear. But you're 95 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 5: just disappointed, man. I mean, I don't know if you 96 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 5: gave out any instructions other than don't use the internet. 97 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 5: I didn't hear the part about Phonio. 98 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 7: Fin did not have any research going on. The text 99 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 7: line was in front of you. You guys clearly saw and 100 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 7: yes had the right answer. 101 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 12: Man. 102 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 6: Boy, there you go. 103 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: For those that missed it. James White is your super Bowl. 104 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: I guess he's caught the most passes of any player 105 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: in a Super Bowl in a single game, or the 106 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: oldest way to put it, in a single game. He 107 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: did that against the Falcons back and that big comeback there. 108 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: So there's your water cooler. Talk to stump some of 109 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: your work colleagues, to see James White. Well, I did, 110 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: but integrity was broken yesterday. 111 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: So I don't want to the trust the tree have 112 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: the gut on that. 113 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 6: I see how it's going. I see how it's going. 114 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 7: Where that couple and now this you're going on the 115 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 7: honeymoon all about yourself. 116 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 5: I see how it goes. Now it's over, Mark, I 117 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: do want to. I know I was bugging you through 118 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 5: one of the breaks. Tarry's Halliburton went on the Mind 119 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 5: the Game podcast with Lebron James and he talked about 120 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 5: the build up to Game seven. So you have that 121 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 5: audio qued up. 122 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 6: Mark. 123 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 5: I would love for the listeners to be able to 124 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 5: listen to that because I thought the perspective he shared 125 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: was a little bit different than the agony of defeat 126 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 5: and kind of devastation of the aftermath. The build up 127 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 5: was very interesting to me. So here's the Tyrs Halliburton 128 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 5: on leading up to the biggest game of his life. 129 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 13: All I could think about going into Game seven the 130 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 13: night before was like, tomorrow is the biggest moment in 131 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 13: my basketball career. This will define the way that people 132 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 13: talk about me for the rest of my career. That's 133 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 13: the way I viewed it, and if that's correct or incorrect. 134 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 13: I didn't care because I was like, if I win, 135 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 13: and I know I'm a legacy, talk is a bigger 136 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 13: thing and I don't necessarily care, but like, yeah, to 137 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 13: be the lead point guard, to help lead a team 138 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 13: to win a championship, that puts me in some rare air, 139 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 13: you know what I mean, and in a space that 140 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 13: you know is pretty special. So all I could think 141 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 13: about was tomorrow's a big moment. Don't put more pressure 142 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 13: on myself. I'm gonna go out there. Who and I 143 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 13: had it going early and there was a dude courtside. 144 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 13: I was like, he's gonna be the guy going at today, 145 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 13: Like I'm talking to him, like, all right, we're gone now, 146 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 13: Like yeah, and I don't know, I don't know the 147 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 13: stat but if I've scored ten points in the first 148 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 13: quarter in my career, I don't think I've ever lost. 149 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 13: So I nine in like whatever six minutes, you know, 150 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 13: So I'm feeling good. I'm like, I've never felt like 151 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 13: this to where, you know. I was like, documented like, 152 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 13: if he makes the first shot, he has a good game. 153 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 13: If he misses the first one is bad. 154 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 10: Whatever, Well I. 155 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 5: Made them up that game so I was like, we're 156 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 5: gonna go. 157 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 13: And I missed like my third three and got it 158 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 13: back into quick one. I was like, all right, we're 159 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 13: gonna go off this and ultimately get injured. But I mean, 160 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 13: it was just such a special time for us, and 161 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 13: it all coincided with so many different things at the 162 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 13: same time. Bro, like the run, the overrated stuff, what 163 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 13: the hell are the song coming out? Like it all 164 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 13: kind of rose at once, and it kind of all 165 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 13: just you know, took a life of its own. So 166 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 13: it was really special for us. 167 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: Man I enjoyed that perspective from him because it wasn't 168 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 5: again the doom and gloom of I got injured. It 169 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 5: was over. It was more so, Boy, if we do this, 170 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 5: everything changes. This is why I love championships in all 171 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 5: sports because legacies get defined or rewritten, and I know 172 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 5: the story goes okay see Champion Pacers not but boy, 173 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 5: for those first few minutes of Game seven, I thought 174 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 5: that Tarry's Halliburton was authoring until we saw the Hoosiers. 175 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 5: Of course, one of the greatest stories in any Enna 176 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: sports history. I mean it still is, but without the championship, 177 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: I don't know if I can place it up there 178 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 5: with all the others. But man, that was a good 179 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 5: way to reminisce I think versus how we usually look 180 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 5: at that moment. 181 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 7: I always enjoy when players talk to other players for 182 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 7: an extended period of time because. 183 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 6: I do think you get real talk. 184 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 7: I think players will say things to other players or 185 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 7: coaches that they won't say to someone who is not 186 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 7: currently or or has been some kind of history person 187 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 7: of the game. I do think you get much much 188 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 7: better conversation. You get a lot more revealed, don't you think? 189 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. I mean Kevin, who better to talk 190 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 5: to about finals moments than the guy who has been 191 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 5: to ten of them in Lebron James. 192 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great listen Part one yesterday. It 193 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: was a great listen as well. You know, I feel 194 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: a little bit. First off, I love Tyrs Halburn's candor. 195 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: I think I've said that before. I love listening to 196 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: him talk basketball period. I find myself very very educated 197 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: every time I listen to him talk. I it just 198 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: kind of sucks that, like the night before Game seven, 199 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: he cares that much about what people think about him. 200 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: You know, that's just kind of a bummer of like, 201 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: that's our sports culture right now, Like you. 202 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 5: Don't think that's the case with I don't know though, 203 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: but because man Kevin, doesn't every competitor think like that. 204 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 5: If I win Game seven on the road, right, it's 205 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 5: the best thing in basketball. Of course, I'm gonna think 206 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 5: what everyone thinks of me. 207 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: You know, if you go back like the first ten seconds, 208 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: he's like, you know, it's gonna define my legacy. 209 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 210 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: He says that to start off, and then like five 211 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: seconds later he's like, and I don't really care about that. 212 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: It's like, wait a minute, you just said that, you 213 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: did about that. 214 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 5: So it's like a little white live right now and 215 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 5: there right. 216 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: You know, and that's just you know, that's just a 217 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: bummer of like, and it's probably more of a human 218 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: question than anything. 219 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 2: We care so much about what people think of us. 220 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: I mean, period of. 221 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 5: The biggest miss is when people tell you I don't 222 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 5: don't don't worry about what people think. 223 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm devastated right now that you guys think less 224 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 7: of me today. 225 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: And so for so for Tyree's it's like, dude, you've 226 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: done so much to just get this team to Game seven, 227 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: Like you know, you've put literally this team on your 228 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 3: back for you know, quite the run. I did have 229 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: to laugh slash cry when he brought up as much 230 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: as he thinks about Game seven, the game he thinks 231 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: about more as Game four. Yeah, and him and I 232 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: are certainly in the same boat. I know you guys 233 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: were not happy with me the morning after Game four 234 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: of just how down I was, because to me, that 235 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: was the best opportunity. Asking to win another game on 236 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: the road is a big ask in the it is 237 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: in the India Finals, particularly against that team, and I 238 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: think Tyree said as much yesterday. For those that are 239 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: in the shoe craze, Tyree stood mission are aready working 240 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: on shoot number two for him? So right around the 241 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: corner from here, did you ever get any of the 242 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: distribution of shoot number one? So I don't know a 243 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: date per se on that, but again, just a really 244 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: fun combo from Tyrese Haliburton, and he wears it on 245 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: a sleeve, which I appreciate. You know, you have a 246 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: lot of prominent figures that I think are just don't 247 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: want to share as much as he wants to, and 248 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: he is really really forthcoming. I think to your point, Jeff, 249 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: it helps when Lebron is with him. He clearly thinks 250 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: of Lebron in super super high regard. So yeah, that 251 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 3: was a fun listen. 252 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 5: I will say this when it comes to Karen, people 253 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 5: think as an athlete, Kevin, I think what you are 254 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 5: saying and how you described the run with halliburt in 255 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 5: the appreciation of what he had done is rational, and 256 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 5: so much of the conversation around sports is not rational, 257 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: especially when it came to the Pacers run. I mean 258 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 5: half the conversation shout out to the athletic was are 259 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: you overrated? 260 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 2: And what an about with Lebron yesterday? 261 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 5: Are you a true number one on your team? You know? 262 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 5: Can you win in that pacer style of play with 263 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: you know the space and pace? But I think why 264 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 5: it's so motivating to kind of put myself in those shoes? 265 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 5: And boy have I ever imagined being in a game seven? 266 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of us have as sports fans. 267 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 5: But if you win it, it shuts everyone up, or 268 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 5: at least it allows you to tell everybody else to 269 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 5: shut the f up pretty much, because in my mind 270 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 5: I want it. Even when I look at like guys 271 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 5: like Jalen Hurts in the NFL, we can criticize his 272 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 5: game forever, and he could say, well, I want a 273 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 5: super Bowl and I got a super Bowl MVP. All 274 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: the other guys that you guys love ain't done that, 275 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 5: not Lamar Jackson, not Josh Allen. And even when we 276 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 5: get to Sunday's game, if Drake may or Sam Donald 277 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 5: win the super Bowl and most likely Super Bowl MVP, 278 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 5: that changes everything. If I'm Sam Donald, you can't tell 279 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 5: me anything more ever, And I think that's the motivating part, 280 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 5: not like those who appreciate how you got there, because 281 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 5: I think San Donold's story is crazy. Drake Mayn his 282 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 5: second year getting to Super Bowl is crazy. But if 283 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 5: you win it, oh that's the ultimate trump card. That's 284 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 5: the ultimate middle finger. Anybody overheted on you. So hopefully 285 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 5: Halliburton and Company gets that chance here again soon. 286 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: James, you were in the building for this last year 287 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: you brought up Drake may I found myself yesterday going 288 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: back to Colts Patriots last year. 289 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought this up. 290 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: What do you remember about that game Colts at Patriots 291 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: last year? Just Deptmber first, if I remember correctly. 292 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, I think a lot of the conversation I 293 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 5: had with Joy Ericson, Stephen Holden other regulars year on 294 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 5: the show was that Drake May is for real and 295 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 5: they might have found their guy. And I thought that 296 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 5: he was very poised in a game where you know, 297 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 5: he didn't have as much talent as he has this year. 298 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 5: Obviously the coach was different as well. I just thought 299 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: that he looked really good and I didn't expect him 300 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: to be as good as he was in year two 301 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: and to go to the super Bowl. But in my mind, 302 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 5: I was like, Mile, they might have found their guy already, Yeah, 303 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 5: and he's taking it a step further this year. 304 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I definitely walked away that thought with May. 305 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 3: I also was reminded yesterday if like you could make 306 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: the argument that was Richardson's finest moment as a pro. 307 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: You know, he leads the nineteen play game winning touchdown drive. 308 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: Nineteen play touchdown drive. He leads that at the end 309 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: of the game, they convert multiple fourth downs. On that drive, 310 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: he has the pass to Alec Pearson the end zone 311 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: and then Shane Psykin goes for two. Richardson runs it 312 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: in for the two point conversion. That's the game winner 313 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: and Honestly, the thought that I had yesterday was more 314 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: of wow. Fourteen months later, Drake may might win the 315 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, might be MVP, probably not, but might be MVP. 316 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: And Colts fans are bracing themselves for Anthony Richardson to 317 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: be traded for a fourth round pick like that was 318 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: richard That was arguably rich Sin's highest moment as a pro, 319 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: and he has started two games since then. It's just 320 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: amazing how quickly things have changed, because we remember you 321 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: had that Jets game and he gets benched last year 322 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: after the TapouT and all that, he comes back and 323 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: the Jets game he had a very similar fourth quarter. Yeah, 324 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: leading the big drive that was more of his right arm. 325 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: That might have been maybe the most individually impressive. That's 326 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: the fast game he's ever had in the enough because 327 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: that was more of him as a thrower, not as 328 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: a runner. But the New England game was you know, 329 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: also up there, more running, I would say than throwing. 330 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: But again leads the nineteen play fourth quarter drive. You know, 331 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, she's now done it on the road 332 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: twice in a couple of weeks. Stretch here and then 333 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: you know, boom, he starts the next two weeks and 334 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: then the back injury happens, and here we are and 335 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: Drake May has a new coach since that game and 336 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: is now playing for a super Bowl. 337 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: It's boint's pretty wild how those two have gone in very, 338 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: very different directions in the last fourteen months. 339 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, the here and now not great for Anthony Richardson. 340 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 7: And when you talk about if Drake May and the 341 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 7: Patriots pull this off, and let's say he does get MVP, 342 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 7: you want to talk about sitting on a rocket ship 343 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 7: to start him in his second year, to lead New 344 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 7: England of all teams to a Super Bowl. Every advertiser 345 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 7: in America is going to want a piece of him. 346 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 7: We're going to hear that the Patriots fans start chirping 347 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 7: again about here comes another dynasty and all that kind 348 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 7: of stuff. But what is the realistic best. 349 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 6: Scenario future for Anthony Richardson. 350 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 5: He goes somewhere else and proves himself to be an 351 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 5: NFL starter, Like, I don't think that he's going to 352 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: be a star in the NFL. I think that that 353 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: ship has kind of sailed into my mind. So you're 354 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 5: at the point, now, where can you get it from 355 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 5: a franchise to trust you enough to hand you the 356 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: keys and kind of rehab your image a little bit, 357 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 5: and can you be a enough of a game manager 358 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 5: to be the top half ish of the NFL when 359 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 5: it comes to quarterbacks? And I still think that's probably 360 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 5: a long shot, to be honest with you, I get it. 361 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 5: He's I think anyone who still believes in Anthony and 362 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 5: rightfully so. I get the physical talent, the age and 363 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 5: stuff like that, but you have to convince yourself that 364 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 5: so many things that have gone wrong will go right. 365 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 5: And I'm a bit cynical when it comes to the 366 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 5: NFL and your trajectory. I think it's very hard to 367 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: change it after the fact. Like the fact that Sam 368 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 5: Donald stuck around long enough and earn another opportunity to 369 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 5: play played well enough to not only start in Minnesota, 370 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 5: but get another franchise to give one hundred million dollars 371 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 5: to start again for them and go to the Super Bowl. 372 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 5: Is that's an anomaly that is not the norm. So 373 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 5: I think when people look at rehab images, we have 374 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 5: a tendency to look at the good ones and say, well, well, 375 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield rehab himself and Daniel Jones to an extent 376 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: rehabed himself and Sam Donald. But but most of those 377 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 5: guys don't go that route, and we don't talk about 378 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 5: him a lot. 379 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean, Tom Hanks is on that island. There's not 380 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: many people on that island. 381 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 5: Like even when we were talking about the Super Bowl 382 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 5: and the class that Sam Arnold is in, we mentioned, 383 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 5: oh Man, he made a super Bowl before Josh Allen, 384 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 5: before Lamar Jackson, before Baker Mayfield, and everyone casually leaves 385 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 5: out that Josh Rosen was drafted as well in that 386 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 5: in that draft class, and we know, we don't mention 387 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 5: him because he is in one of the great redemption stories. 388 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: So I think Anthony is really up against it and 389 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 5: at this point a change of scenery still will probably 390 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 5: do him some good. 391 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 6: What is the realistic return for Anthony Richardson? Is there's 392 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 6: their trade value there at all? 393 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've talked about kind of the early 394 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: day three pick again, that fourth rounder. You know, he 395 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: does have a cap hit next year of ten point 396 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: eight million. That is a I looked it up. I 397 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: believe that's the tenth biggest cap hit on the team. 398 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: So like, even if you just live in that world, 399 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 3: you know, if if eternally, you view Anthony Richardson not 400 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: part of your situation. It's just hard to carry a 401 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: ten point eight million dollar capet for a dude that's 402 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 3: holding the Microsoft surface all game long or has the 403 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: earpiece in all game long. 404 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, that to me again early day three pick. 405 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 14: Now, I don't think it's a big group of people, 406 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 14: but I do think there are some that say, you 407 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 14: know what, the franchise quarterback, and I say franchise in 408 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 14: quotes Daniel Jones. 409 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 3: That dude's coming off with torny Keeleys, that dude's got 410 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: an injury history it's quite long. I'm not betting on him. 411 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: I'm not getting rid of Richardson, I'm not getting rid 412 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: of Rady Leonard. We're gonna need other quarterbacks. I mean, hell, 413 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: this year you needed a dude off the couch. Granted 414 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: the Richardson, you know, chaos contributed to that. But again, 415 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a big group of people. And 416 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: if the culture going to try to improve their football 417 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 3: team this season, particularly defensively, I think that ten point 418 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: eight million dollar capet is something that you need not 419 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: to be sitting there. So that is a conversation that 420 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: I've heard but again, I. 421 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: You know, we're probably gonna find out the next month. 422 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: I mean, what are we a little over a month 423 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: away from free agency, less than three weeks away from 424 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: the combine. I mean, this is the time when those 425 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: talks start to heat up. 426 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 7: So, given what we know, and assuming Anthony Richard is 427 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 7: completely healthy and ready to go by by camp, give 428 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 7: me who's the depth chart? 429 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 6: Who's number two at quarterback? Is it still Richardson or. 430 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 7: Based on the last guy we saw play and play? Okay, 431 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 7: is it Riley Leonard? 432 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 5: Riley? I think the depth chart, if all three are 433 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 5: Colts come the fall, is Daniel Jones, Riley Leonard, and 434 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson number three, And because of that, he probably 435 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 5: should get moved. So we'll see what happens. 436 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 6: But I like Kevin's point though, too. 437 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 7: Can you afford to not have all three of those 438 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 7: guys for one year knowing that Daniel Jones, who's oft 439 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 7: injured anyway, is coming back off a major injury. 440 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 5: It's a good point, But are you weiining versus the 441 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 5: money you could use not paying Anthony Richardson elsewhere trying 442 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 5: to get your roster got get younger and faster, right? 443 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying and jokes aside. I mean, you've 444 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 5: made your bed with Daniel Jones. And to be quite 445 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 5: honest with you, what's the great time more quote that 446 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 5: we can't play here on these airwaves, like if eighteen 447 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 5: goes down, we are bleeped and we don't practice bleeped. Well, 448 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 5: the reality is you hitch your wagon of Daniel Jones. 449 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 5: And if and when he goes down next year, which 450 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 5: is a I would say I'm more likely than not 451 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: because he only played one full season out of his 452 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 5: first seven, then you're a Are you imagining some miracle 453 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 5: room with Roley Leonard or Anthony Richardson? Both of those guys, 454 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 5: in my opinion, would only be good if you're trying 455 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 5: to win a game or two, not trying to save 456 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 5: a season. So I don't know. 457 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: Did you guys watch the flag football game? 458 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 5: No, okay, I don't watch. I did watch some of 459 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: this because shout out to the Dame like Chapel. He 460 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 5: texted me and told me what time it was kind 461 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 5: of tongue in cheek turned it on and it was 462 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 5: god awful. It was so bad that were they jogging? Yeah, 463 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 5: and then they had a bunch of like kickers are 464 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: playing wide receiver and offensive linemen were catching passes and 465 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 5: Jamar Chase was playing defensive back and should Sanders threw 466 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 5: a pick which I thought was kind of funny. But yeah, 467 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 5: it was horrible. But it was so bad that I 468 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 5: had it on the background as I was doing some 469 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 5: other things in the apartment, you know, cleaning up, called 470 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 5: my family, caught up with them. It was kind of 471 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 5: a mute, but it was very It was horrendous. I'm 472 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 5: not gonna lie about that. 473 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 6: It was bad. It sounds like we didn't miss much, Kevin. 474 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 5: No, I mean I felt like a degenerated watching it. 475 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 5: And boy, did you think that on it? No, No, 476 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: you're not quite a degenerate. Can you bet on the 477 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 5: Pro Bowl? 478 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 6: You can bet on anything? Did you right? 479 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 5: You can bet on the Pro Bowl? Yeah, if you 480 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 5: bet on a Pro Bowl, call that number please. 481 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 11: I basically told Ashley, like, if you see me like 482 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 11: sweating the Pro Bowl, you need to call it. You 483 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 11: need to call the Gamble hotline for me. Things have 484 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 11: gone sideways. Our mortgage is probably on the line. 485 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 7: Rick Carlisle coming up next, It's The Fan Morning Show 486 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 7: at ninety three five and one oh seven, five of 487 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 7: the fan so we. 488 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: Headed the Payloffs Slickers hot line. 489 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 10: Right now. 490 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: He is the head coach of the Pacers. He is 491 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle coach. Good morning, How are we doing just fine? 492 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: January complete? 493 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 3: I would say, I mean, certainly your best month of 494 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: the season. Obviously general health has improved for your team, 495 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: but in particular, what did you like about January that 496 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: saw the results be easily the best month of the 497 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: season for you? 498 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 12: Well, probably starts with better health. That's certainly is been 499 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 12: a big part of it. And then yeahs, as we've 500 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 12: gone along here, we've worked, our guys have continued to work. 501 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 12: You know, we had some practice time, we had a 502 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 12: difficult trip, you know, the one with the Oklahoma City game, 503 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 12: but we were able to win an Oklahoma City which 504 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 12: was pretty cool, and got a couple of wins at 505 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 12: home earlier in the week, and so you know, there's 506 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 12: been some reasonable momentum and some pretty good things happening, 507 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 12: and our younger guys continue to work and get better. 508 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 10: Rick. 509 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 5: I know this was a few days ago, but Pascal 510 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 5: siakam being named an All Star, I believe for the 511 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 5: second time with the Pacers, fourth time overall, you were 512 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: very adamant about him all season, and now that that 513 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: has been solidified, how do you think Pascal earned that 514 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: honor despite the team record being what it is. 515 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 12: Well, we have thirteen wins and by my count, I 516 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 12: think he has five game winning shots out of thirteen. 517 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 12: You know, that's not half, but it's approaching half the games. 518 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 12: And when the rest of the league looks at him 519 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 12: in his body of work and what he has stood 520 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 12: for as a player, with the level of integrity that 521 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 12: he approaches his craft, how he leads, et cetera, et cetera, 522 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 12: et cetera. You know, then you get into everything he 523 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 12: does on the floor and the skill and all that. 524 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 12: It's pretty clear that you know, even though it's been 525 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 12: a very down year for us from a wins perspective, 526 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 12: that he still has has shown very brightly in this league. 527 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 12: And I believe, you know, if the way they announced 528 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 12: the names was an indication he had the fourth most 529 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 12: votes in the East from the coaches, which is which 530 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 12: is very very strong. 531 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 3: One more on the Pascal front. Coach obviously, you guys 532 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: make that trade in season a couple of years ago, 533 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: and you know, certainly in Toronto he's a key piece 534 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 3: on that title team. But it's not like he was 535 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 3: this you know, high draft pick and you know, uber 536 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: prominent college player coming out. What is something that maybe 537 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: you've learned about Pascal being with him every day for 538 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: the last couple of years that you did not know 539 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: when you guys acquired him. 540 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's an interesting question. 541 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 12: Yeah, he was. He was the second or third guy 542 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 12: in Toronto, maybe even the fourth guy at times before. 543 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 12: He kind of kept moving up the ladder with that group. 544 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 12: You know, they had they had Kawhi Leonard, they had Lowry. 545 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 8: And they you know. 546 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 12: They had some other good players too. But you know, 547 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 12: he's just a guy that his personality, he just you know, 548 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 12: he bides his time, he continues to work at you 549 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 12: know what he does, and he just continues to continue 550 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 12: to get better. And I thought when he came to us, 551 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 12: we had pieces in place that greatly enhanced his game. 552 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 12: You know, I thought py Reeves was a great ship 553 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 12: with him. That's an obvious one. 554 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 10: You know, a. 555 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 12: Shooting big like Turner was was was an important element 556 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 12: as well. I don't know that they had debt in 557 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 12: Toronto and then yeah, I just I just thought the 558 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 12: way our team was constructed, and the way that we 559 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 12: embraced him as a city, as an organization, you know, 560 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 12: as a as a team, as a coaching staff, I 561 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 12: think that was another thing that that kind of illuminated 562 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 12: his abilities. 563 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 8: You know. 564 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 12: So he's continued to get better. You know, he's not 565 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 12: he's not a super young player anymore. I think he's 566 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 12: thirty one or something like that. But he's a young 567 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 12: thirty one. You know, he went to four years of 568 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 12: college at least that's my recollection at New Mexico State. 569 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 12: And you know, for a guy that's played this many years, 570 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 12: he still has a young body and in a game 571 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 12: that continues to evolve. 572 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 6: Rick. 573 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 5: Looking at last night, obviously you all sat a lot 574 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 5: of guys, but one guy who stood out and has 575 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: stood out at times throughout this season is Johnny Furfy. 576 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 5: So how will you evaluate his overall development here this 577 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 5: season and what he can offer you on both ends 578 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 5: of the floor. I think one of the funniest things 579 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 5: that I've enjoyed watching and seeing guys kind of try 580 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 5: to go at him and them realizing in real time 581 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 5: that he's a pretty good wing defender. 582 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 12: He is and he's tough. He's from a He's from 583 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 12: a an athletic family in Australia. His brother is a 584 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 12: professional Australian rules football player. I think his sister is 585 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 12: a professional tennis player. You know, they're they're serious athletes 586 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 12: and and Johnny's a. 587 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 8: He's his. 588 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 12: Boyish looks, belie his toughness, and he's gotten stronger. I 589 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 12: believe he's grown taller in the last year year and 590 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 12: a half since we've had him very young when we 591 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 12: drafted him, he's gained I don't know what the total 592 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 12: amount of weight he's gained in muscle, but it's somewhere 593 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 12: between fifteen and twenty maybe even a little more than 594 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 12: that pounds. And all that stuff has helped him. And 595 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 12: if you look at his statistics, you know they're not 596 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 12: they're not super gaudy in terms of points and all that, 597 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 12: but he rebounds very well, uh for the minutes that 598 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 12: he plays. And if you study his net rating stuff, 599 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 12: you know he's a guy that is a positive flayer 600 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 12: for us because he sawid Defensively, he does the things 601 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 12: within our system that we need in terms of running, 602 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 12: finishing on the break, hitting open shots, and and again 603 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 12: he's a young guy continues to improves. 604 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: The voice of Rick Carlisle. Again, Pacers just wrapped up 605 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: a back to back. They will be in Milwaukee coming 606 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: up on Friday. A lot of road games coming up 607 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: with the All Star break. Breaking up a little bit 608 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: of that coach. There was a moment the other night 609 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: where I think Aaron Nesmith might have been whistled for 610 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: a charge. The camera panned to you and you you 611 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: reached in your pocket and look like you pulled out 612 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: some little I don't know, index card shape thing and 613 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: and and took a lance at it. I'm curious, like, 614 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: in game wise, what notes, if any, do you look at? 615 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: Like is that something where I have no idea like 616 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: free throw percentages for for the other team, or you know, 617 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: are there things that you want to look at, whether 618 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: it's on the scores table or in your pocket that 619 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: you like to check throughout a game? 620 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 12: Well, I you know, the the game stats are updated 621 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 12: every time out, so you know those are you know 622 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 12: that's Mike Preston puts. 623 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 8: That on the table. 624 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 12: And so I'm constantly looking at that. 625 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 10: So just there's certain things you look at. 626 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 12: Certainly this the score is something you're always aware of, 627 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 12: but you know, what are the rebounding totals, what are 628 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 12: the turnover totals, free throws, you know, stuff like that. 629 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 12: You know, and in certainly minutes is something that you 630 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 12: look at as an head coach as you you know, 631 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 12: go through a season and and they're as short of 632 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 12: thresholds that you know, you know that are important for 633 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 12: guys not to exceed. And so it's it's that kind 634 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 12: of stuff. And then you know, I've got a card 635 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 12: in my pocket. I've got a couple of different things. 636 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 8: You know. 637 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 12: One is a thing that is a as an outline 638 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 12: for rotation, but at this point, you know, as we've 639 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 12: gotten healthier, that's not really needed. And then that's the 640 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 12: thing with a list of you know, different plays and 641 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 12: actions and and other notes. So you know, it's it's 642 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 12: that kind of stuff. 643 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: I know. 644 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: Kevin Pritchard has mentioned when you guys get to this 645 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: time of the year, if there are players in trade talks, 646 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: you like to alert players of that so they're not 647 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: caught off guard. 648 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: Have you had to alert any players of that this week? 649 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 10: No? 650 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: Are you expecting a move by three? 651 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 5: Last one from me? 652 00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 10: Rick? 653 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 5: When you to have a game like yesterday, when you're 654 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 5: resting a number of guys, what other things are you 655 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 5: looking at besides trying to get a win, Like where 656 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 5: you're evaluating players? Is it style of play? Is it 657 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 5: your rotations when it's a little bit off that night. 658 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: Is it trying to see what a guy can do 659 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 5: with more on their play? Like, well, what types of 660 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 5: things are you evaluating when you don't have your normal 661 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 5: rotation as like you just mentioned your team's get a 662 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: little healthier. 663 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 12: Well last night and we had nine guys, so you know, 664 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 12: Potter was kind of a late scratch. He did something 665 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 12: to his hip in the Houston game and you know, 666 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 12: unexpectedly he was unable to play. So you know he 667 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 12: would have been probably are back up four last night, 668 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 12: but because he was out, we're kind of hurting for 669 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 12: the fore position. So we you know, we had walkers 670 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 12: started four and for if he had three and if 671 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 12: he's six to eight, so for if we can play 672 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 12: for and so one of the things was just make 673 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 12: it one of those two guys was relatively fresh and 674 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 12: available to play the four position, which bumped you know, 675 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 12: a guy like Ethan Thompson who's a two guard to 676 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 12: the three and Taylor Peter, who is normally you know 677 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 12: two and he played a few minutes of three et cetera, 678 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 12: et cetera. So some of its positional stuff, that's that's 679 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 12: kind of the you know, the caretaking of the game, 680 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 12: you know, from the standpoint of you know, what the 681 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 12: rotation looks like. And then yeah, I mean, you know, 682 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 12: when you have the main guys out, you know, forget 683 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 12: about Tyree Saliburn me now and now you got nemmart out. 684 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 10: Now you got uh. 685 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 12: Siaka Mount, Now, you got Nie Smith out. Now you 686 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 12: got Matther, now, you got McConnell. Those are all our 687 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 12: main playmakers, you know, and scores, and so you know, 688 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 12: what's it going to look like when when guys like 689 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 12: Walker and Furfey now have to step up into playmaking 690 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 12: roles and they have to be guys that are facilitators, 691 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 12: you know, and not and not just receivers. And so 692 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 12: I thought Walker did some really great things in the 693 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 12: first half second half. You know, there was some turnovers 694 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 12: that you know are avoidable, things that that you know, 695 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 12: were uncharacteristic of how he's played lately. And then uh, 696 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 12: you know, Quentin Jackson, he became a main playmaker last night, 697 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 12: played very very well and he was a pretty significant positive. 698 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 12: So you know, you look at you look at how 699 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 12: these those guys respond to the increased responsibility. And as 700 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 12: I frequently talk about, you know, young players always say 701 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 12: they want more, you know, they want more minutes, they 702 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 12: want more responsibility, and they want more touch ins, they 703 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 12: want more shots, and and then they step into those 704 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 12: situations and generally generally find out that there's you know, 705 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 12: there's there's a real level of increased difficulty. And the 706 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 12: great thing about it is the end of the opportunity 707 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 12: to experience it on the one end. On the other hand, 708 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 12: they come to the realization, you know that that it 709 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 12: is real, and you know that kind of responsibility has 710 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 12: to continue to be worked for. 711 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: Appreciate Rick Carlos's time here on this Wednesday morning. Just 712 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: a couple things left, if you don't mind, Coach. I 713 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: was chatting with my dad actually over the weekend, and 714 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: you know, obviously Winter Olympics are getting ready to start, 715 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: and he brought up the nineteen eighty game between the 716 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: US and the Soviets from a hockey standpoint, and ironically, 717 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 3: and my dad proposed to my wife or to my wife, 718 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: to my mom actually on that day. But I was 719 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: thinking about you and you grew up, I think in 720 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: a couple hour drive from Lake Placid, and you were 721 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 3: in college, if I'm not mistaken, during that nineteen eighty Olympics, 722 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: do you remember anything about that game, the magnitude of 723 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 3: it at the time, or do you feel like it's 724 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 3: something that you know almost has grown over the last 725 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: you know, forty some years. 726 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 12: Well, do you think it has grown? 727 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 10: I remember it very vividly. 728 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 12: I was I was a freshman at the University of Maine. 729 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 12: I had a yellow Panasonic twelve inch black and white 730 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 12: TV that operated off an antenna and was watching the 731 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 12: game in my dorm room at Hancock Hall at the 732 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 12: University of Maine. And you know, I was completely compelled 733 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 12: by the by the entire thing. You know, when you 734 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 12: when you look back at the history of all that 735 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 12: and the Cold War and how great that the Soviet 736 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 12: hockey team had been for so many years, and a 737 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 12: lot of us, you know, no internet back then, none 738 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 12: of that, so a lot of us didn't know that 739 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 12: much about the Soviet hockey team. But then you get 740 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 12: to the Olympics and I get I think it was 741 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 12: it must have been ABC that was doing the Olympics, 742 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 12: because it was. It was Al Bichael's and they do 743 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 12: such a good job of educating people that are watching 744 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 12: the Olympics with all their features and all that kind 745 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 12: of stuff. And then you know, years later, decades later, 746 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 12: the movie Miracles chronicled everything so vividly. 747 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 10: You know, it was. 748 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 12: It was almost you know, like like reliving and watching 749 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 12: watching the movie. But I know the arena that is 750 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 12: still there. I don't know. I would I would think 751 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 12: that they probably do tours, the tours of the locker 752 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 12: room that the USA team was in and stuff like that, 753 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 12: but you know, don't I don't know that for sure. 754 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 12: You know, a lot of friends of mine over the 755 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 12: years have told me that they were at the game 756 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 12: and it was one of those moments in history where 757 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 12: you know, where were you when this happened? And you know, 758 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 12: I was in the an alcohol looking at my lousy 759 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 12: TV watching it black and white. 760 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 3: It's funny I watched obviously a miracle, Like you said, 761 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 3: Netflix has got a documentary out about it right now. 762 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: I watched it the other day and the al Michaels 763 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 3: call kind of the lead into that game, it just 764 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 3: created chills for me. Now in twenty twenty six, looking 765 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: back on it. I thought he did an unbelievable job, 766 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: just like educating the audience on what we're about to 767 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 3: watch and the magnitude of it much more than. 768 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 2: Just a hockey game. 769 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: Okay, as we close close things out, I know the 770 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: Driving Dish Initiative had another announcement this week. I believe 771 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 3: last night fourteen to three pointers for you, and that 772 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 3: means a whole lot of eggs right to those of 773 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 3: food insecurities. 774 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 12: Absolutely, three great partners, Hatch, MPs Farms and Kroger are 775 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 12: donating a bunch of eggs. So if we continue on 776 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 12: the piece we're at, which is only thirteen threes per game, 777 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 12: there will be over one hundred and twelve thousand eggs 778 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 12: donated to Drive. Addition, one of the things you learned 779 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 12: about food and security as you get into the effort 780 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 12: and study you know the needs of folks out there 781 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 12: in the community, is that eggs. Eggs can be a 782 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 12: real luxury because there's there's a a freshness aspect to it, 783 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 12: et cetera, et cetera. So the ability to have this 784 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 12: kind of availability is really awesome. And we're we have 785 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 12: another huge announcement that's going to happen tomorrow the fifth 786 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 12: another another engagement with a sponsor for Driving Dish, which 787 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 12: will announce tomorrow after practice. So Kevin, expect you to 788 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 12: be there, brother. 789 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: There you go. 790 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye out for that, certainly in great 791 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 3: efforts and what you're doing there with those partners and 792 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 3: Drive and Dish coach. 793 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 2: As always, we appreciate the time. 794 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 12: All right, guys, take care. 795 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 6: Indianapolis Colts Football. 796 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 7: There's a lot to be looked at and a lot 797 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,479 Speaker 7: to be done during this offseason. But where do you start, 798 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 7: what do you do and how do you make money? 799 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 7: In room for it all? To give us some insight 800 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 7: as to what might be going on, we talked to 801 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 7: our next guest, Jake Arthur. He's the host of the 802 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 7: great podcast Locked on Colts, and he joins us now 803 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 7: here on the Paylesslikers hotline. 804 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 6: Good morning, Jake. 805 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 7: Are you getting ready for full blown free agent combine season. 806 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 6: Over the next thirty sixty days? 807 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 10: Oh? Yeah, absolutely. 808 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 15: It's funny because people always ask us what we do 809 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 15: in the off season. It's like, that's probably the busiest 810 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 15: timing year to be out. 811 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 5: That's with you, well, Jake, I look forward to seeing 812 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 5: you a lot more often. Here in the next couple 813 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 5: of weeks, and I'm sure all of us will be 814 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 5: running around trying to look at different prospects throughout the 815 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 5: NFL scouting combine. Now for you, though, I believe you've 816 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 5: got more of a preview than all of us by 817 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 5: making the trip down to the Senior Ball and it's 818 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 5: one of your favorite events. So I would encourage everyone, 819 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 5: by the way, to go read his piece here on 820 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 5: Roundtable Sports about the Colts. He put out about fifteen 821 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 5: hundred words about these different prospects, So I know some 822 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 5: might not read all of that, Jake, But who are 823 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 5: some players that set out to you that overlap with 824 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 5: some of the areas of need here in Indianapolis. 825 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 15: Yeah that's fair, obviously, but the Colts need really anything 826 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 15: on defense, especially in the front seven, and this does 827 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 15: appear to be a pretty good draft in that area. 828 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 15: And it's I wouldn't say this is a draft with 829 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 15: a ton of like blue chip talent. So honestly, if 830 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 15: the Colts are not going to have a first round pick, 831 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 15: then having picks on Day two isn't so bad. You 832 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 15: got guys who really stood out, like Zion Young from Missouri, 833 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 15: Derek Moore, from Michigan that are probably in range for them. 834 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 15: They're in round two, Round three. Gabe Jackets as well 835 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 15: from Illinois. James there you go, oh yeah, right, yeah. 836 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 10: So I thought he set out pretty well. You got 837 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 10: the big guys. 838 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 15: Too, you know, DeForrest Buckner and Grover Stewart. They're both 839 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 15: going to be thirty two to start the year, and 840 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 15: Buckner's coming off the neck injury. So wise money says 841 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 15: you should probably invest in the future there. A guy 842 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 15: like Lee Hunter is just a space eater, but he's 843 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 15: pretty nimble for his size out of Texas Tech. And 844 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 15: the Caleb Banks is enormous. It's like he's got the forest. 845 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 15: Buckner's hyped with Grover Stewart's girth, you know what I mean. 846 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 15: Like he's just an enormous player. And then you look 847 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 15: at linebacker. Obviously they need more playmaking there. They only 848 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 15: had three turnovers from linebackers last year. 849 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 10: They were all from m Pratt. 850 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 15: I mean, Lasts and Gerber Sewart together had more than that. 851 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 15: So it got a guy like Kyle Lewis out of 852 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 15: Pittsburgh who would be perfect for them. I think you 853 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 15: just PLoP him at. 854 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 10: The will linebacker spot and let. 855 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 15: Him work in space and make plays. And then Bryce 856 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 15: Batcher from Oregon I thought was another really good player 857 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 15: that would fit them well. All these guys are good 858 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 15: in coverage, which was a pretty big issue down the 859 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 15: stretch for the Colts. 860 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 7: I had seen where Calen Black from Indiana got some 861 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 7: nice reviews for his route running ability and hands. Any 862 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 7: any idea how Innyanna guys did? 863 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 15: Yeah, So Black wound up being the only one there. Obviously, 864 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 15: with the National Championship guys having just played the week before, 865 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 15: most of them pulled out, but Black was the IU 866 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 15: player that was there, and he did look pretty good. 867 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 15: He looked like the well rounded prospect I think we 868 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 15: would all expect. Really showed out in the one on 869 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 15: one drills as a pass catcher I thought, look decent 870 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 15: in paspert detection as well, which is that and special 871 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 15: teams As a rookie running back is always going. 872 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 10: To kind of be the things that get you on. 873 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 15: The field as a rookie unless strike a first round pick. 874 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 15: But no, I thought Black looked really good. He ran 875 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 15: behind a pretty good offensive line there in practice as 876 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 15: well that opened up some good holes. So if he 877 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 15: if he tests well, the combine He's probably looking to 878 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 15: be one of the earlier running backs taken. It's not 879 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 15: like an awesome group this year, but I could find 880 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 15: him being within the top like five or six running 881 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 15: backs in this draft. He's had a pretty good start 882 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 15: to the offseason so far. 883 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 5: As we sit here now, I just picture of Jake 884 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 5: the way our room is set up over at the 885 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 5: Cold Sility. He's right behind me, and I can hear 886 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 5: his voice already, you know, getting a little high pace, 887 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 5: and he slams the table because some player that he 888 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 5: thought was gonna be pretty good did not get selected 889 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 5: by the Colts. 890 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 4: Usually we. 891 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 5: Fast forward like six months and then that guy is 892 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 5: like the special teams player of the week on whatever 893 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 5: team whatever. He's like, I told you guys, So when 894 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 5: I tell you he's legit, he is legit. To go 895 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 5: back to the linebacker conversation for a second here, Jake, 896 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 5: gotta put you on the spot here. Do you think 897 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 5: it's more likely that both linebackers are gone versus just 898 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 5: keeping one? Now, I know Zire Frank is under contract, 899 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 5: Jermaine Pratt is a free agent. But you just mentioned, hey, 900 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 5: Jermaine Pratt actually had your linebacker turnovers whereas Zire Franklin 901 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 5: did not. So how do you see that room unfolding 902 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 5: here in the near future. 903 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 15: Yeah, I feel like stuff like that is like the 904 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 15: last thing we need to see from Chris Ballard to 905 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 15: really believe that he is turning over new leaf. Is 906 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 15: kind of the severing ties with guys that he's drafted 907 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 15: and developed over the years. It's one thing if you're 908 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 15: just going to like let a free agent walk because 909 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 15: they have a market, but to cut them before their 910 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 15: contract is up, we don't really see that from him 911 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 15: a lot. 912 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 10: So I kind of I think I have to see. 913 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 15: That before I believe when it comes to Desire Franklin. 914 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 15: Even though you free up about five million dollars in 915 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 15: doing so, and I think they're gonna need about every 916 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 15: penny they can create this offseason, I think it would 917 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 15: probably be wise to go ahead and just revamp the 918 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 15: linebacker room because it appeared to be pretty evident that 919 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 15: these guys are maybe not the best fit for Louiannoomo's defense. 920 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,959 Speaker 10: But with that said, I would I would imagine it's 921 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 10: it's just your main Pratt that that finds the exit. 922 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 15: It felt like he already kind of had a good 923 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 15: bypost on Instagram recently with with Louis and Rouma at 924 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 15: with I thought it felt to me. 925 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 10: But if they weren't an overhaul linebacker, I think that 926 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 10: would be wise. 927 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 15: But I think more likely as we just see a 928 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 15: new will linebacker probably drafted. I would have to say, 929 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 15: because Chris Ballard, I mean he for what he can 930 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 15: missed in the draft, he usually does. 931 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 10: Hit on linebacker, but I would imagine one of the 932 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 10: two gets replaced. 933 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 3: Deciphering Instagram posts, Welcome to the off season. Here we 934 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 3: are Jake Arthur doing Yeoman's work. Great, great work he 935 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 3: does locked on Colts, I should say, is a wonderful 936 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 3: listen I him and Zach kick spearheading that. 937 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 2: Shout out there, Schultz shout out, what's my Notre Dame 938 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: running backs name? Jake Allen? 939 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 10: Think it? Alan? 940 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 2: Think it? 941 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 3: Thank you on that end. Okay, what needs to happen 942 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 3: this offseason for offense to be a possibility with the 943 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 3: round two pick. 944 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 10: I think they have to lose Alec Pierce. 945 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 6: What about Patty? 946 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:44,479 Speaker 9: Yeah? 947 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 15: I mean it still would almost feel too rich to 948 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 15: do that in. 949 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 10: Round two, don't you think, like with how. 950 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 15: Much they need on defense now, it wouldn't be the 951 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 15: end of the world. There's players worth getting, like Malachi 952 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 15: Fields from Notre Dame for example, Kevin and an offense week. 953 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 10: In Mobile and I kind of fell in love. 954 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 15: I'm kind of having to tell myself they don't need 955 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 15: to do that in round two. 956 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, he's got some pier sent them in terms 957 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 2: of the fifty to fifty balls. 958 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 8: What's that He's got some pier cent. 959 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 2: Them in terms of the fifty to fifty stuff. 960 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 15: Yeah, he caught this really good diving like fifty five sixty. 961 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 10: Yard catch last week. 962 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 15: That was like, okay, wow, that's that's something that Colts 963 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 15: could us downfield. But now I think if they lose 964 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 15: Alec Pierce, that would be a huge problem and they 965 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 15: would need to fill that. They could probably manufacture what 966 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 15: they would lose in Michael Pittman a little easier if 967 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 15: they decided to move on from him. Not that he's 968 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 15: just this easily replaceable guy, but Pierce is elite at 969 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 15: what he does. Like he's led the league in yards 970 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 15: for catch two years in a row. You know, he's 971 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 15: clearly the best deeps right in the NFL. So I 972 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 15: think they could probably replace Pittman a little further down 973 00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 15: the liner, maybe even in free agency with some cheaper options. 974 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 15: So that's not really where I would go, because free 975 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 15: agencies out of control with receivers. But yeah, that's about it. 976 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 15: Because they're not going to let Daniel Jones go. I 977 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 15: think they've already kind of hedged their bets on that. 978 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 15: They're probably going to be willing to match whatever price 979 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 15: for him. See, I think Alec Pierce leaving would be 980 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 15: about the only thing. 981 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 7: All right, I'll ask you on the way out, the 982 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 7: one thing I asked the guys earlier today. If you 983 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 7: had to rank the three quarterbacks right now when we 984 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 7: get to OTA's, what's the depth chart look like? 985 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 15: Oh man, so Jones will be your starter. I've got 986 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 15: to think Riley is the backup. I think he showed 987 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 15: enough to be the long term backup by this point. 988 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 10: It doesn't make a lot. 989 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 15: Of sense for me for Anthony to still be there 990 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 15: from both sides. If I was him, i'd probably want 991 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 15: a fresh start too, And then I think they probably 992 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 15: just need to move on from us asking about why. 993 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 10: It failed all the time as well. 994 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 15: So I think the third quarterback is probably not on 995 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 15: the roster right now. 996 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 7: Fair enough Jake. Thanks, as always, we appreciate your time. 997 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 7: People can check you out anywhere. You can get your 998 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 7: podcasts at Locktown Colts, so we appreciate you being here 999 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 7: and spending some time with us. 1000 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 10: Of course, thank god. 1001 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 6: He's Kevin Boone on the left. That's James Boyd on 1002 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 6: the right, Mark Dakton. 1003 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 7: We keep behind closed doors and a big sheet of 1004 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 7: glass between us. 1005 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 6: It's always better that way. 1006 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 7: I'm jeff Rickord and we turn to the payless Lookers Hotline. 1007 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 7: Right now, we welcome in the president of the Mike 1008 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 7: McCarthy Fan Club, longtime Pittsburgh Steealer fan, Mike Decursi from 1009 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 7: the Sporting News, joining us this morning. I know you're 1010 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 7: excited for the upcoming season already, Mike. Oh, ready to go, Jeff, 1011 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 7: I don't hear enthusiasm in your voice. 1012 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 8: There is very It's funny. 1013 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 4: There's this TV show we do locally. I went to 1014 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 4: college with who became sort of the voice of Pittsburgh sports, 1015 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 4: and it's on Sunday nights and they had me in 1016 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 4: and it's a three person panel. It rotates different sports 1017 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 4: writers and sports catch and I was in and everybody's like, yeah, 1018 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 4: I'm all born on board, and I'm like, nah, I 1019 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 4: kept waiting for somebody to say, who's that drip on 1020 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 4: the left who doesn't like this higher Mike. 1021 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 3: Of course he sounds like Rick Carlisle answering trade deadline 1022 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 3: questions from. 1023 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 2: Me about thirty minutes ago. 1024 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 3: This enthusiasm over Mike de Coursey, over Mike McCarthy, I 1025 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 3: should say, Mike de Coursey with us here on the 1026 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 3: Payliftickers hotline. Mike always enjoy our combos, so we appreciate 1027 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 3: you making time in your latest bracketology. We'll start here. 1028 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 3: You've got Purdue on the four line. I feel like 1029 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 3: I've mostly seen them currently, maybe on the three line. 1030 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 3: Is that a obviously it's better resumes around them. Is 1031 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 3: there something on the resume that in particular you didn't 1032 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 3: like that push them down a line, or you just 1033 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 3: think it's a pretty deep year at the top of 1034 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 3: the racket. 1035 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 12: It is. 1036 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 4: It is a very deep year, and I certainly could 1037 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 4: have had them as a three. There's a lot of 1038 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 4: really strong teams at the top of the field. Those 1039 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 4: first three lines, first four lines really are outstanding, and 1040 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 4: so it's not a far trip for them to get 1041 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 4: back to three be a bit of a hike to 1042 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 4: get to the two line at this point. But the 1043 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 4: one thing that the Big Ten provides you is opportunities, 1044 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 4: especially if you look at the Big Ten schedule, you 1045 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 4: look at the Big Twelve schedule. Those two leagues in 1046 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 4: particular did a really great job of concentrating what might 1047 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 4: be their biggest games in February, and they did a 1048 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 4: good job of figuring out, Yeah, these are going to 1049 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 4: be the teams, These are going to be the ones 1050 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 4: for Doue, Michigan, Michigan State, et cetera. The only one 1051 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 4: that no one really saw coming was Nebraska, and so 1052 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 4: there's a lot of intersection among the best teams in 1053 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 4: the Big Ten coming up in February. It's going to 1054 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 4: make for a fantastic finish and it's going to give 1055 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,479 Speaker 4: Purdue lots of opportunities to go back to a three 1056 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 4: or a two. And I think they're seeding right now 1057 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 4: is not an issue. It's really more about getting back 1058 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 4: to being the team that they were in the first 1059 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 4: three months of the season two and a half months 1060 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,720 Speaker 4: and what they certainly are capable of being. 1061 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 5: Mike, when I look at your breacketology, and again going 1062 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 5: back to Purdue, everyone. I feel like in La Fielist 1063 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 5: before they got back on the win side, winning side 1064 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 5: of things was santas the Scott was falling. You know, 1065 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 5: Oh my god, is Purdue gonna do this again? They're 1066 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 5: gonna break my heart. Do they have enough you think 1067 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 5: to get to a final four? 1068 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 8: Yes, certainly to win it. 1069 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 4: I've always been on the opposite side of a lot 1070 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 4: of analysts. I know, Jeff Goodman in particular at Field 1071 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 4: of sixty eight was very much all in on Purdue 1072 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 4: winning it. And my answer every time somebody said that was, Okay, 1073 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 4: who's the NBA guy, who's the first round pick? Because 1074 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 4: I mean, I know Indiana fans know the answer to this, 1075 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 4: But look back over the history of the NCAA tournament 1076 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 4: and the teams that win it, and find me the 1077 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 4: teams that didn't have a first round pick in their rotation, 1078 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 4: and usually more than one that won it, and and 1079 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 4: the list is like one team, It's eighty seven Indiana 1080 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 4: and pretty much no, you have to go past the 1081 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 4: UCLA dynasty to even think about somebody else. And so 1082 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,919 Speaker 4: I just I looked at produced roster and I love 1083 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 4: their team, and I love their coaching staff and They've 1084 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 4: got great college players. 1085 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 8: But that just doesn't happen. 1086 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 4: And so I've always been on the side that says, yeah, 1087 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 4: final four, but I'd have to see it happen in 1088 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,240 Speaker 4: terms of winning the last two, and so I certainly 1089 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 4: think they're capable of doing this, but there are a 1090 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 4: lot of other teams that are capable. I mean, they 1091 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 4: had their best team to win the championship in a 1092 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 4: year when Yukon was spectacularly good, one of the great 1093 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 4: championship teams of this century, and it was bad timing 1094 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 4: for the Boilers. And to an extent, this is some 1095 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 4: bad timing because there's there's so many terrific teams in 1096 00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 4: the Big twelve Arizona, Kansas, Texas Tech, Houston BYU, and 1097 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 4: then in the Big ten the teams I mentioned, and 1098 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 4: then in the ACC Duke in Carolina, and there are 1099 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 4: just a lot of fantastic teams. So it's going to 1100 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 4: take a tremendous performance to get there. If this Purdue 1101 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 4: team were a year ago, they would they would have 1102 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 4: had a much a much more much less difficult I 1103 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 4: don't want to say more comfortable, a much less difficult 1104 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 4: ride to get to the Final four than they will 1105 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 4: this year. 1106 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 6: Mike. 1107 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 7: Of course, he joining us son the payloss lookers hotline 1108 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 7: right now. We saw Indiana lose at usc last night. 1109 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 7: Only one player in double figures there, with Wilkerson getting 1110 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 7: thirty three. 1111 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 6: First time. Nick Dorn has been really cool. He was 1112 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 6: two for twelve from the floor. 1113 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 7: What does his addition mean for Indiana in the grand 1114 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 7: scheme of things? 1115 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 6: How good can they be? 1116 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 4: Well, it certainly has meant that they're back in the 1117 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,439 Speaker 4: NCAA tournament picture. And before he exploded in the last 1118 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 4: few weeks, they were pretty much they weren't out of it, 1119 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 4: out of it, but they were not a team that 1120 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 4: had a great horizon that you said, Okay, they're going 1121 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 4: to make it. And then they go out and they 1122 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 4: beat Purdue and Ucla, Purdue at home, Ucla on the 1123 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 4: road and get two quad one wins when they had 1124 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 4: only had one in the entire season prior to that. 1125 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 8: So his. 1126 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 4: Ascension has really made a huge difference. And I thought, 1127 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 4: you know, he didn't play great last night. I thought 1128 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 4: the Hoosiers played reasonably well. It was a tough break 1129 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 4: for them that Elijah Arenas finally becomes healthy and ready 1130 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 4: after missing a lot of the season with injury and 1131 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 4: then sort of working his way back into it over 1132 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 4: the last two three weeks, and then all of a sudden, 1133 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm ready to go now, and he just 1134 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 4: completely He completely dominated the last ten minutes and scored 1135 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 4: twenty nine for the game. He's really talented, hard to 1136 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 4: play against, and Indiana for what they do well, shoot 1137 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 4: the basketball, share it, move it to where it needs 1138 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 4: to be a great defensive team. They're not built to 1139 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 4: be a great defensive team. And somebody that talented starts 1140 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 4: to get it going, They're going to have a tough 1141 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 4: time shutting that down. 1142 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 3: TSN Mike on Twitter Mike de COURSI always enjoy our 1143 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 3: comvos with him, especially this time of year, Mike. One 1144 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: of the stories of college basketball this season has been 1145 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 3: Mayam Ohio. They have a ton of Indiana flavor, not 1146 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 3: only on the roster but in particular coaching staff. They 1147 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 3: did beat Buffalo last night, probably one of the more 1148 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 3: difficult match games left on the schedule. What do you 1149 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 3: see from a bracket standpoint with them? If they were 1150 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 3: to slip up and not get the automatic bid out 1151 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 3: of the MAC are they still a tournament team? Do 1152 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 3: you see anything from an Indiana state comparison from a 1153 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 3: couple of years back. 1154 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 4: It depends on the nature of the slip up, how 1155 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 4: profound it is. Do they just lose one, when do 1156 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 4: they lose who do they lose to? There are a 1157 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 4: lot of different variables still at this stage of the season. 1158 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 4: I'm disappointed that when I look at the bracket matrix 1159 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 4: and I'm looking at Indiana and like, as we as 1160 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 4: we look at it, we're supposed to basically do it 1161 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 4: as this is what it would be if the we're 1162 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 4: selection Sunday. So I realized that they're twenty three and 1163 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 4: oh or twenty four and oh, now not thirty four 1164 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,439 Speaker 4: or thirty five and oh, but we have to look 1165 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 4: at it like that, and it's not like six and 1166 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 4: oh either. 1167 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 8: Right, It's like we're way. 1168 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 4: Into this and they're still undefeated. And I'm like the 1169 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 4: only person that has Miami as a single digit seed 1170 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 4: just about they're projected consensus to be an eleven. 1171 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 8: I mean, they're undefeated in. 1172 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 4: A in a in a solid mid major conference. I 1173 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 4: understand like that that if you look at it, the 1174 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 4: Ken Palm numbers aren't great or whatever. 1175 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 8: But they are undefeated. 1176 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 4: The last time we had an undefeated team in a 1177 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 4: mid major conference, they were a one seat, and that 1178 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 4: was Wichita in twenty fourteen. The time before that, Atlantic 1179 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 4: Ten wasn't quite a mine major in two thousand and four, 1180 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 4: but it wasn't a high major either, And Saint Joe's 1181 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:06,919 Speaker 4: they did it and they. 1182 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 8: Were a number one seed, and so. 1183 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 4: I just don't see how you can have them as 1184 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 4: a double digit seed at this stage of this if 1185 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 4: they are, if they are a team that is undefeated 1186 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 4: going into the tournament, they absolutely should be a more 1187 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 4: prominent seed. I understand if even if they do this, 1188 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 4: they probably wouldn't be a one, but they sure as 1189 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 4: heck shouldn't be an eleven. It's not fair to them, 1190 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 4: and it's not fair to the team that's the. 1191 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 8: Sixth. Why should you have to play an undefeated team. 1192 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 4: If you play yourself to one of the top twenty 1193 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 4: five positions in this bracket, why should you have to 1194 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 4: play an undefeated team in your first round. 1195 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 8: That's not logical. That team knows how to win. 1196 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 4: I'm frustrated by that a little bit, But I would 1197 00:58:53,080 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 4: like to shout out Suitor's father, Peter Souter, is terrific player. 1198 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 4: For the RedHawks. His father, Rick, lives in Carmel. I 1199 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 4: covered him when he was in high school. That's how 1200 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 4: far I go back. He played in Western Pennsylvania high 1201 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 4: school when I was working. 1202 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 8: For the Pittsburgh Papers. 1203 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 4: So I have a little special connection to what mister 1204 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 4: Suitor is doing over. 1205 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 3: In Miami, and he's put up some big time numbers 1206 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 3: for them. Bellerman where he began, and now he's been 1207 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 3: at many of Ohio with Travis Steel and company. Justin 1208 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 3: Kirby Fisher's kid coming off the bench for the RedHawks. 1209 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 7: Man, Mike, you ever covered an Olympics and all your 1210 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 7: time I covered. 1211 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 8: It's funny. 1212 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 4: I covered two Summer Olympics and it was ninety two 1213 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 4: in Barcelona, which was spectacular, and then in Atlanta in 1214 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 4: ninety six. 1215 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 10: And this is. 1216 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 8: True story, Jeff right around. 1217 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 4: I think it was around nineteen eighty eight when I 1218 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 4: was four or five, six years into my career, and 1219 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 4: I remember seeing all the different writers. 1220 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 8: Saying, man, I want to go to the in her Olympics. 1221 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 4: And kind of jockeying to be that person. And I 1222 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 4: was sitting there thinking, it's cold. They don't play any 1223 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 4: sports where they actually played against each other except hockey 1224 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 4: is all racing against the clock. 1225 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 8: So I set it as a goal. 1226 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 4: I never wanted to cover the Winter Olympics. That became 1227 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 4: a goal, and I have achieved that to this point. 1228 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 8: So I am proud. 1229 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 7: You're missing some seriously intense hockey. 1230 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 6: My man. 1231 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 4: I do love the hockey, and we'll enjoy watching it 1232 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 4: over the next few weeks. And I'll watch the rest 1233 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 4: of it because my wife loves the Olympics and she 1234 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 4: loves the figure skating. But and I don't mind watching 1235 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 4: it from the comfort of my pouch. 1236 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 8: But out in the cold. 1237 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 4: You know, my guy Pat forty, I think, is going 1238 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 4: over to Milan and he can have it. 1239 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 8: Man, he's welcome to it. 1240 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 6: Oh, he's good to talk to you, buddy. Stay warm 1241 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 6: and dry up there. 1242 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 8: I will do my best. 1243 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 6: Thanks, guys, there is