WEBVTT - Best of JMV 8/10/26 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.880 You guys want to get into this weekend of basketball genius. 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.760 I am not, and I should be, because if we 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:12.360 ever got together, we're very light minded thinkers. Now I'm 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.880 assuming he's much smarter than me, but you know this 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.759 to be true. I've never really been the biggest fan 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:24.840 of Bill Simmons. And maybe you can find that clip 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.240 of him talking about the WNBA, because a lot of 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:32.640 what he has said about the WNBA are things that 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:37.599 I have said about the WNBA. So we're I think 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.680 we're light minded thinkers. He loves pop culture, that is great, 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.720 but he also loves New England, and I think New 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.440 England sucks, and not just a Patriots, but most of it. 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.000 I think it sucks. And we all got kind of 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.040 tired of hearing from Bill Simmons about the Patriots and Bill, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.960 you know, when the flat Gate and all this stuff happened, 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.360 we all got sick and tired of hearing that Bill 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.440 Simmons and the Celtics, and you get sick and tired 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.840 of hearing about that. Now, if the old school Celtics 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.800 with Larry Bird, you never get tired of that. But 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:14.520 he cultivated himself as not just a basketball guy, but 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.600 then an all sports guy and then went over into 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.240 pop culture, and we have similarities in that capacity. So 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.399 you're right if you're saying you should really like him, 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:30.000 because you guys are not equal in smarts, because I'm 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.600 about as smart as this tabletop, but we are equal 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:39.039 in terms of what we like, what we enjoy, whether 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:45.880 it's sports or entertainment or movies or television shows or music, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:52.560 we are certainly in that same category. He's just been widely, 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.760 massively more successful than your good friends sitting right here, 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:04.200 and two thumbs up, like Fonzarelli to him for that. However, 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:08.040 what he had to say about the WNBA, we'll get 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.840 to coming up in a little bit, is is accurate. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:18.080 They need new leadership. They do. And what I have 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.600 said about the WNBA is I want it to be 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:25.320 about basketball, and with this leadership, it's never going to 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:29.200 be about basketball because it's not like anybody really rallies 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.160 and then spotlights the talent they have. Because there is 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.280 talent there. Now it depends on you know, how you 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.280 view you know talent. If you look at the NBA 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.880 and the WNBA, they're just simply put, there are massive 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:48.160 differences in the talent, but in terms of basketball on 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:54.200 whatever level. The WNBA has a ton of stars. Yet 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.320 the only thing that you ever hear is pissing and 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.000 moaning about the WNBA. Face it, the only thing you 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.560 ever hear around here is pissing and moaning about the fever. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.880 And the fever. They don't handle it well either, they 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.560 haven't yet the WNBA. And really that's where it starts. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:17.360 Your your leader has to set the trend and the 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:21.720 tone for everybody else, and in this case that has 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:25.240 not happened. Thus you constantly find yourself I think Simmons 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:30.880 referenced it as constantly stepping into bear traps. They just 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:35.880 look unprepared by now. You should have some sort of 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:40.200 blueprint or game plan about how to handle it, and 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.440 they don't act like that. They have the foggiest idea. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:50.160 And oftentimes the Fever have shown the same thing. And 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:55.160 I have been a tremendous defender of Stephanie White from 0:03:55.320 --> 0:04:00.120 a coaching angle, her coaching. Her coaching has been and 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.320 for the most part, other than stuff that you can 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.360 go at and just be critical of because she's a 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:11.280 coach in general. Anyway, to me, a lot of the 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.960 shortcomings that we see on the floor comes down to 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.960 the players and what they do, the mistakes they make, 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:24.640 the decision making, the lack of defense, the lack of rebounding, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.240 fouling too much, turning the ball over too much. That 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.960 to me is well out of the control of the 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.359 head coach. But here's what is at this point in time. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.279 If I'm Stephanie White and I had to exit from 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:43.560 social media because of all the jackassery, and I haven't 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.280 heard her on with Jake. I know that she had 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.280 a really nice relationship with Jake coming on all the time. 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.400 I don't think we've heard her on Jake with Quarrying 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.400 Company in a while. And there's reasons behind that, because 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.440 you get tired of it and you just kind of 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.920 you hunk her down, if you will, and you try 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:06.680 to make everything as normal surrounding basketball as you can. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:14.479 And I thought Saturday afternoon, after the player ejection and 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.760 what took place in that win ninety eighty six over Chicago, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.800 So you had a player for the Sky that basically 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:28.080 by the neck tackled Sophie Cunningham. That's really the only 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:33.320 way you can put it. Dejane Carrington tackled by the 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.919 neck Sophie Cunningham, and then you had a lot of 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.880 the ESPN world coming to her defense and saying, well, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.320 look at the past, look how many plays she's made. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:47.240 It was nothing but a reckless and the only thing 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:48.800 that could have come out of that there was going 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.159 to be no defensive play made. It was going it 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.839 was reckless and all it was going to do was 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:58.359 injure somebody because one thing is she's not talented or 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:02.320 athletic enough to do that. And that's why when you 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:07.719 look around the WNBA, you rarely see block shots unless 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.680 it's just a taller player standing up with their arms 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.800 stretched out trying to block somebody down low, or you 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.599 get a block from coming in from behind. Because the 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.800 athleticism compared to the block shots that were used to 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:26.359 seeing it that that's not part of their game. So 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:32.080 the only outcome from that in that trackdown was going 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.520 to be exactly what we saw, and it was malicious. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.600 I don't know about the whole why you guys, can 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.520 the nerds all go with well, that was wind up there. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:46.400 It was just a reckless, dumb ass play. I don't 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.279 know if that is in the Is that in the 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:52.000 real book? Reckless and dumbass that's what it was. That 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.039 was a dumb ass play. And all you're going to 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.520 accomplish you didn't, I mean, score it anyway. You're not 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.680 going to accomplish getting anything done defensively. All you're going 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.880 to do is compromise yourself and your team and then 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.560 you're going to go into the locker room and you're 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.160 gonna send something out on Instagram and look like an 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.600 even bigger dumbass. And then with that, you're gonna make 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.440 your team and your league look like a bunch of dumbasses. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.280 That's all you're gonna do. That's all this is accomplished. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.960 And that's yet another reason why the WNBA needs new 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:31.400 leadership and new guidance. But for Stephanie White, if I 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:35.160 were her, and I know, nobody over there is listening, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:39.280 and nobody over there cares, And frankly, that's okay because 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.040 it's not like you guys are providing a great deal 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:46.920 of leadership in the first place. You are basically right 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:52.520 there with the WNBA. So I'm just going to hand 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.600 out this advice and if somebody hears it, so be it. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.360 If somebody does it, because you know how I do 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:03.520 defend Stephanie White as coach. But as I defend her 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:09.400 as a coach, she has to defend her players. These 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:16.320 guys are all in the huddle together, and the only 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:22.920 thing different in defensively looking at that malicious play is 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:28.160 trying to figure out whether there was intent. Who cares. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:36.560 It was reckless and anybody can see that. But once 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:41.319 you get around your team, that's who you're with, that's 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.400 who's playing for you, that's who you're coaching, that's your family. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:50.800 You defend your family. You defend your family. I would 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.120 expect that every single time, and I think you do 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:58.480 it vehemently. You do it like I defend you as 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.400 a coach when things don't work out, when you don't foul, 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.040 when you're up three on a final play. You know, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.760 I defend the fact there wasn't enough time. I'll defend 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.720 you as the coach. But you have to defend your team. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:19.120 And it was malicious and it was reckless, and that's 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.360 all you need. I don't care about the brand of 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.960 Sophie Cunningham. I don't care about the thoughts of white 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.240 privilege after the game of carrot. None of that matters. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:35.160 You defend, You huddle up and you stay tight with 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:41.600 your team, and the dialogue after that game on Saturday 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.520 did not speak to the level in which it should have. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.720 And I'm not going to try to read the body 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.800 language of the players, including Caitlin Clark up there. Somebody 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:53.800 else can read the body language. I can just tell 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:59.520 you you stay tight. That's not tight, and that's what's necessary. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.280 I'm Stephanie White. It really wouldn't matter to me. I'm 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.960 getting it from every single direction. Had I said or 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.079 taken my advice, if you're Stephanie White, she probably still 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.880 would be slung with the arrows. It doesn't matter what 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.520 she does. She's always going to be criticized. But you 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.360 want to make sure everybody in that locker room, everybody 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:28.760 in the huddle, is tight. And that wasn't great. I 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:33.800 guess I don't understand what needs to be done. People say, well, 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.920 they're not getting coached up enough, they're not getting guidance. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:42.560 My god, that's just sports. That's just sports. It's almostly. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.720 Can you imagine you imagine going all the way back 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.840 to the eighties or stuff like this was commonplace. You know, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.960 one of the most noted plays in history was that 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.360 playoff game with the Celtics and the Lakers when Kevin 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:57.200 McHale closed line, Kurt Rambus, That's exactly what it was. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.960 It was a closed line with a purpose and even 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.040 and if there was not significant purpose behind it, right, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.800 it was again reckless. It was dangerous, and it was 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.679 dealt with the way that it should have been dealt with, 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.439 just not by the fever head coach after the game. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.320 Can't be doing that stuff, There's zero way. And I 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.960 had to watch the ESPN. I don't know whoever on 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.880 the show. You could tell me, Caleb, who are the 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:30.880 ones on the show? The WNBA show and they go 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:34.600 back to a lot of these track down plays. Listen, 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.520 this Carrington chick is not Lebron James. Okay, that stuff's 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.760 not gonna happen. There's zero way these women are going 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.560 to be able to jump up and discard from the 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.280 side every single time you're going to make contact, and 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:51.760 that's dangerous. Contact has nothing to do with white privilege 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.160 or now there's no privilege there it like, I'll get 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.720 that was the easiest call the WNBA and the officials 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:04.000 have made this season. Now rescinding the technical that Kaitlyn 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.559 Clark was the second easiest, but that was the easiest. 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.480 I don't even know why at this point in time, 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.960 with the rest of the league and everybody around it, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.280 and with all that's coming at her, I don't know why. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.040 Stephanie White, who was a fantastic player and a fantastic teammate, 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.560 you got to get this thing tight. Man, You're leaving 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:30.440 loose ends on Saturday afternoon. You don't want that. That 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.560 is the only way you get through again, the world 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:39.360 in which has been created by the fandom of Caitlin 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:45.000 Clark and the focus on getting the responses that a 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:49.080 lot of those media hijackers out there get off on. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.480 They see the response and they go with it. Otherwise 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.240 they really don't care. I don't care anything about what 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.400 happens in these games. You think Jason Whitlock's all of 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.680 a sudden the big WNBA fan, I don't know. He's not. 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:02.720 I mean, he's gets response for whatever the hell he 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:07.760 does right now. That's it. Nothing else. Otherwise he wouldn't care. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.040 And really, if that's what you do, I'm not blaming 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.640 I'm not blaming any of these guys for what they say. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.080 If you want to verbally grift and you know, take 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.840 people with you, that's the time to do it, and 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.640 certainly that is the subject matter to do it. But 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.320 if you're the Fever, you got to tighten up and 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.480 you've settled it. Kaitlin Clark says all the right things 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:33.319 about being about basketball, and you just you got to 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.120 be hardcore and say those are the types of plays 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.319 that you absolutely have to eliminate. That was so much 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.440 more egregious than even the fist to the throat of 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:46.160 the neck area of Kaitlyn Clark. You have to come 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.360 out because nobody else cares about you. Everybody else out there. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.600 Once you can, everybody once you can. I think I 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:58.760 saw what's his name beck with the Lieutenant governor. You 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.840 think that dude's ever dribbled basketball in his life? Hell no, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.800 his cheeks are way too rosy to be dribbling into basketball. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.160 There's zero way he's ever dribbled a basketball. Yet now 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.480 he wants to Fever. Coach fired. You guys don't need that. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.800 Just stay tight with your team. And that didn't get 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.880 it done. And I will also tell you, even if 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.880 it's something that you thought was to the detriment of 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.720 the league, the hell with it. The league's discombobulated as hell. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:34.880 Worry about the people you're going to battle with. Don't 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.320 worry about the people you're going to battle with and 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:41.000 their thoughts or their brands. You coach them, you stay 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:46.240 tight with them. I know it's easier said than done, 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.960 but damn, so many years of hoop and not to 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:57.680 recognize that is it's flabbergasting, it really is. So anyway, 0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.760 I know you don't listen over there. I know nobody 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.600 over there's every been on the show, and that's okay. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:06.680 I don't really care. But my advice again, which you 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.800 won't hear or you'll leave, is make sure that everybody 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.040 in that locker room and that huddle is on the 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:18.880 same page with you. And you didn't do that. Stay tight. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:25.400 There was zero defense of that defensive move of Carrington, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.520 even though you saw that from ESPN and others, and 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.520 not a way in the world. She's going to track 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:37.120 down anybody from behind and block it from behind. And 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.000 you're lucky the player. You're lucky Sophie Cunningham in this 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:46.200 case wasn't injured more than she was. That's a reckless play. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.640 You can't have that. Anybody that's ever played basketball understands it. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:59.800 Why don't they. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.400 The ride with JMV. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.280 It's grug so it's problem. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:02.800 I don't know. 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.240 Nuety three five and one oh seven five the fan 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:13.160 busy rest of the week, Hirst and LaMonte is with me. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:18.120 Coming up on Friday at Pivot Downtown. You know we 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:24.840 love the Pivot Balcony bar inside Hiatt Place Downtown. Coming 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.920 up on Friday, that's before. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:32.000 The Fever game and is always a fantastic time. They 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.920 played Dallas on Friday night. We shall be down there, 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.840 I believe. Did we not talk to Debbie and then her. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:40.560 Friday? 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.800 John, I'm sure they're gonna love the dialogue I have 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.600 right now. If we do that on Friday, hopefully that changes. Yeah, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.560 they may go I don't know what all about that. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:57.840 It's really simple though. That was egregious enough to be 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:02.320 incredibly outspoken in the backing of your team and player. 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.480 That's easy. You don't go into that and go, well, yeah, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.840 I don't know they meant to do. And I mean 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:14.239 it was a round the neck and reckless regardless of 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:20.440 what anybody else thinks. And listen, you're gonna have everybody 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:25.080 coming at you regardless. You don't want that with your team, 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:33.640 you know, want any misguided feelings regarding those in your 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:41.879 huddle pretty simple to me. Fever and New York coming 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:46.480 up tomorrow night, so the technical was rescinded. Caitlin Clark 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:53.560 sits on seven right now. Now Bill Simmons talking about 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.520 the leadership or lack thereof the WNBA and there has 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.320 to be something new is absolutely right now. I've been 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.040 talking about that and the TV you know, this being 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:08.359 all over the map. It's not great. More on that 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.760 coming up meantime on the Andy More Automotive Group podline. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.160 Getting said, I'm assuming to head out to New England 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.760 for a couple of joint practices and then a gathering 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.840 for a preseason game number one on Thursday. Steven Holder 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.520 joins us. Anything that you gather from the release of 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:30.000 the official depth charts earlier today with the cults of mind, Steven. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:37.320 Not particularly. I think there are I guess it was 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:43.639 an admission that this is, you know, a backup quarterback battle. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.000 That was an acknowledgment of that, so they stayed out 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.560 of the weeds on that one. There are a few 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:54.800 veterans who are I think listed above some younger players 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.920 where they're just kind of doing them a solid on that. 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.719 I feel like, out of respect that the younger player 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:07.439 and a lot of those instances is actually ahead, you know, 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.760 And so I think one example would be better at linebacker, 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.639 for example, I think he's in their top three linebackers 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:18.320 right now. It did not reflect that if you look 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.760 at the depth chart that they put out today. But 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:26.640 that's not that unusual. I'm looking forward here as we're talking. Yeah, 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:31.040 that's not totally unusual. But for the first step chart, 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.840 you know, but I think there are some things there 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.080 that we know are not going to remain that way, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.200 if that makes sense, And that's an example of it. 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.359 Do you where do you point the finger the first 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.800 part the first position where you go, all right, this 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.680 doesn't look grow obviously with me, we talked about this before. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.119 It's wide receiver. But what do you look at first 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.480 and say, yeah, hopefully either this is a lot better 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.760 than what we gather right now, or there is some 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:00.000 marked improvement at some point. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:05.679 Point. I think I think linebacker will stick with that position. 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.879 I think they got they're they're a little they're definitely 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.719 thin there. It's kind of interesting. I asked lou An Arumo, 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:16.200 defensive coordinator on Saturday, about that position. His answer was 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:21.639 actually kind of honest, for refreshingly honest, and he admitted that, like, 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.880 you know what, we don't really have a whole lot 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.560 of guys locked in there yet, and because they keep 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.760 rotating guys in with the first team, which tells me 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:31.919 they don't know who their starters are, right, And so 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:33.919 I asked him about that, and he said, well, you know, 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.200 I think we're going to end up playing a lot 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.280 of guys there. And he said, you know, we may 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.400 just have guys kind of do what they're best at. 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.280 So I asked them, does that mean you're going to 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:48.320 have guys sort of specialize in certain roles, you know, 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.520 not you know, not jack of all trades. But what's 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.399 the opposite of that, right, it's just guys who were 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.480 just really good at certain things and rotating in and out. 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.760 And so he suggested that that's what it's going to 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:05.080 look like. And he said the way his justification was 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:09.880 for it was, Look, we don't want to overwhelm young guys, 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.680 so if you can kind of give them a specific role, 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.520 they maybe can lean into that and do well at that. 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:19.160 So that doesn't make sense, but I think we all 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:23.120 know that. I think in the best case scenario, you'd 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.680 like to have your two or three guys and those 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.520 are your guys, and you know they're going to play 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.280 all the reps. That is not that's the way you 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.639 structure it. The way he's talking about it is not 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.159 the way you draw it up. So that would be 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.959 out of necessity rather than something that they just prefer. 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.159 So we heard the news we're getting Cam Taylor Britt 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.479 going back to Friday, And you know, obviously this stems 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.440 from a situation going back at the beginning of the 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.720 year before he was signed here, how had he been 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.960 performing up until that point and in this case missing 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.199 the first game of the season, being able to do 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:03.240 all the preseason stuff, but missing that first game obviously 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:04.560 against the Ravens. 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.920 Yeah, I think that he has actually been pretty solid. 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.359 They like him right now. I would say if the 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:16.160 season started today, Oh well, if the season started today, 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.440 he couldn't play. But just throw that out for a minute, right, 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:22.520 if the season started today, I think Kim Taylor Britt 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.679 is their number three outside corner. So if something happens 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:31.119 to Sauce Gardner, Mooney Ward, I think he'd beat the 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:33.439 first guy off the bench. That's how I envisioned that 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:37.880 right now, the other corner being justin Wally in the slot. 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.399 So that's the way I see it at the moment, 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:44.000 and they feel good about that because I think they've 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.960 they've had a lack of depth at corner for a 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.080 couple of years now, right, And you saw it last 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.840 year just because the number of injuries they had, the 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:54.920 death really got tested. I mean, they pulled a couple 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.960 guys off the couch last year. They made that trade 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:02.840 for Makai Blackman, for example. He played a lot of snaps, 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.520 probably more than way more than he should have, right, 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.160 And so they have this year you get Wally back 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.000 in the fold coming back from his injury. I know 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.240 he's in the slot, but just generally speaking, that's another body. 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:18.159 You get Cam Taylor britt as a great example of 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.560 the kind of signing where it gives you quality depth. 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.679 They did not have quality depths last year, you know, 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.600 and so I think this is definitely a step in 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:30.720 the right direction. And then you have some younger guys 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.120 who are fighting it out, and some of them will 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.359 earn some playing time or earned roster spots, and then 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.800 others may have to catch on elsewhere. But there's good 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.760 competition back there. But Cam Taylor brit is the guy 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.880 I think behind those two big name veterans. 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.680 Stephen Holder of ESPN on ESPN dot coms on the 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.200 Andy Moro Auto Modich Group potline. We're not talking about 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:55.359 super notable names, certainly in free agency. But you know, 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.800 for some of those defensive guys, from Key to Clemens 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:04.280 to Chillery, guys like that, how are the veterans at 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.080 those defensive positions? Anybody else you want to add in 0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.640 performing so far in camp from your estimation. 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.360 So Arden Key is actually kind of interesting. I had 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:19.560 sort of meager expectations for him. Look what we see 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.919 out there, even when they have pads on, it's not 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.800 necessarily the real thing. But I would say he has 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.199 had a presence. I would say he's noticed him and 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:33.240 I do think that's promising. I think he is the 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.919 guy who's probably been outside of LAT too. He's probably 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.240 the guy who's been the most consistent. LAT two is 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.399 starting to come on and we're starting to see him flash. 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.800 He's really creating consistent pressure. I like his chances to 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:50.240 take a step this year. I think how big of 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:54.159 a step he can take does? I think depend on 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.480 the guys around him to a degree, right, And so 0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.159 that's going to depend on the Forrest Buckner becoming the 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.760 Forrest Buckner again. Right, Yesterday was a day where I 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.199 started to see him flash and that has been a 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.560 long time coming. I hadn't really seen a lot of that, 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.800 and he's he's been limited. But anyway, back to those 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.200 other guys that free agent group you talked about, uh, Clemons. 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:18.480 I mean Clemens has been out there with some of 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.640 the first team reps. I think he's I think he's 0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:23.800 going to end up being a little bit of a 0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:27.439 of an edge setter. Not sexy and and not a 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.080 position where you're going to get a lot of numbers, 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.320