WEBVTT - Euphoria - “In God We Trust” (S3, E8) 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.240 The Frames per Second podcast. 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:10.879 What's going on in ship Boy? Nick? 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.000 I'm here with Kenneth B. Hollo. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.360 I am Spike Lou of the On Day TV show 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:18.279 and another week in the books. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:19.760 How you doing, sir? What up? 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.720 Mike Cetown? Hello? 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.360 And we got the rights Modest Media and miss Naturally Nay. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:28.200 How y'all doing. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:30.480 Good? What's up? 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:32.600 Pretty good? Pretty good? 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.239 You're now tuned into the Frames for Second podcast, And 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.640 in this episode, we are concluding our weekly recaps of 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:44.360 the hit HBO original series starrings in dea titled Euphoria. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:49.400 This recap is dedicated to season three, episode eight, called 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.880 In God We Trust And just to let y'all know, 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.920 this is the this is it I think I put 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.400 I put in the chat. This is the final episode 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.240 of the series, which is interesting because they didn't promote 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.400 it like that. They just dropped it and said we out. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.520 So I'm curious to think how that impacts your thoughts 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.640 on this episode. But I'll start with you Ken overall thoughts. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.760 Uh, yeah, y'all, y'all, y'all can keep this last episode? 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:19.160 Yeah, I think I was. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.400 I'm good, But yeah, when you put that in the chat, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:29.760 I hadn't watched the episode, so but uh yeah, huh 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:30.880 that's it. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:32.479 Damn Yeah. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.640 I waited long enough because everybody I thought everybody would 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.000 have watched it before. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.160 The No, it didn't ruin anything for me. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.679 It just confirmed, uh, what we discussed last last week, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.080 you know. So I was like, oh, okay, so basically 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.920 what everybody was feeling, it's more than likely gonna actually happened. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.600 So so yeah, I was like, okay, cool, so and 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.320 that was cool. Like so now, I think from that 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.320 point it was like, all right, so, how they're gonna 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.440 wrap all this shit up? 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.360 So yeah, no, I think I'm good. I'm glad we're 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.400 over and done with What about you? Lou? 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.200 What a lackluster way to go out of a series? 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.400 This episode was. They could have kept this Like King 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.880 said that, I think they wrapped up everything that was 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:26.760 important rather quickly and then gave us this fake Western 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.639 shit showdown between two characters who we could have did 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.160 find with If they never crossed paths the whole series, 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.480 it would have been totally fine. So I didn't like 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.919 the last episode. I'm with Ken that it should be over. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.840 It maybe could have ended last week, to be honest 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.520 with you. That was a better ending episode, just leaving 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.480 Ruth standing right there and that's wondering what the fuck 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.720 happened to it. I think I may would have rather 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.799 preferred that over this, You know what I mean? 0:02:58.760 --> 0:02:59.000 Boy? 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.560 You was just there for a second. Uh, miss miss name? 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.560 What are your thoughts on this this final episode? 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.160 My thoughts on the final episode is that it's actually 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.720 it was actually better than I expected it to be. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.280 My expectations were the Pits of Hell, though, so it 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:20.600 was better than the Pits of Hell. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.160 I don't know if I don't even know what that 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.240 dates said. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:36.400 You sound like a nice version with Lucid, but Ron, 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:37.080 what about you? 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.480 I actually didn't mind it. I thought it was fun. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.360 I thought it was fun. I think with these shows 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:52.320 and seasons, series finales, it's hard to please everyone, and 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.000 I think they did the best that they could given 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:59.760 the circumstances. I can't imagine what else they would have 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:04.320 been would have done with such a star studied cast. Now, 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.520 and you had to end it, so you're kind of 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.160 forced to end this thing. So I think with that, 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.680 with that, I think they did a decent job at 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:14.920 at ending it. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.120 Honestly, if I'm if I'm being honest. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.520 Mike, you think it was decent or pitts of hill. 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.280 Let me tell y'all something. It's it's always gonna be 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:31.040 a good day when I agree with Rod. Okay, I 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.440 feel I feel like my spirits are lifted. I feel 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.360 like I'm I'm I'm doing something right. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.680 No pun intended. That was all fun. That was all fun, 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:47.839 but for real. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.000 No, I I I didn't have I had some gripes. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.760 Sure, yeah, I thought it was good. I thought it 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:55.159 was good. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:59.440 I thought I thought what they did worked. There are 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.680 things that they could have done that would have worked better. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.520 But I don't have a I don't have any serious 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:07.600 serious complaints. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.440 I just have a couple of gripes. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.760 But I think the stories wrapped up pretty well, especially 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.839 the whole burning bush thing. I thought that they I 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.640 thought they brought that home, y'all. So I was like, 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.800 all right, I'm I'm good with this. 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:25.520 I'm sorry. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.360 Oh no, no, no, no, no, we'll get there. I guess 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.600 I don't want to, you know, but I think they Yeah, 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.159 I'm I was expecting you to be the one that 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.280 that actually, uh brought that up. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:37.560 Eh. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.920 But yeah, I think that they did bring that whole 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.920 biblical story around with LEXI. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.200 Mm hmmm, now we'll get to it. I don't want to. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.640 I don't want to fuck up Nick's outline. I don't 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:50.880 even know if we're gonna get son. Don't know if 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:51.720 I got that in my notes. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:52.600 I was gonna let you cook. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.000 But now I'm thinking I might be wrong because niggas 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.240 can't be crazy, So I don't know. 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:00.680 It went nowhere. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:01.840 So I was confused. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.600 Mm. And jewels picture, well, go ahead, go ahead, and 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:08.000 go ahead. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:12.320 And a Jewish picture. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.159 No, I'm not talking about jewels picture, but YESI she 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.280 that that is what the picture depicted, which I thought 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.480 was kind of corny. But I think when we were 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.039 talking about the whole, you know, Israelites and Egyptians and 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.479 the slavery and all that, and then you said, nay that, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.080 oh it's gonna be about the girls. It was so 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.839 had had Rue not died, the girls would not be free, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:39.400 because Ali wouldn't have gone to the club and killed Alamo. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:45.520 Because it freed all the girls. I was like, damn, 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.799 they really they really thought this through. 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.040 It was almost like. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.120 It was almost like when you look at the whole 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.680 and this is nerdy, but like the whole you know, 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.680 Anakin being the chosen one, but then people thought Luke was, 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.760 but it was really Anakin because had Anakin not done 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:01.480 what he did, then. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:02.920 Luke would not be there to do what he did. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.120 It was the same type of thing. So I think 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.599 that I think that they really brought that home and 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.680 I liked it they did. 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:10.559 I didn't. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.679 I didn't get that. I was I was too. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.920 I think I was too stuff on the Western aspect 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:21.120 of it to really actually see. Yeah, the the you know, 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.000 the actual free of the girls because I'm looking for 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.120 like the trafficked girls to be I was looking for 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.400 them even though they're probably dead at this point, so 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.120 I did. I was, I was looking for Angel, So 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.480 I wasn't really putting that together with the girls at 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:37.720 the at the at the club. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:39.480 So yeah, I guess you can get there further when 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:40.680 we get further along. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.520 And you can also add Maddie to the list like 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.920 all of the girls that Alimo had under his thumb. 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.680 You know, I was mad about that. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.200 I fucked with this episode. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.160 I've had a lot of time to not because I 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:58.200 had a lot of time. 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:59.840 To think on it, and Rod you talked about it 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.840 as soon as you mentioned your review of it. 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.040 It's hard to end the show that's satisfying. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:10.000 And I'm realizing after watching the boys, after watching we 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.000 did we did Game of Thrones together. We've done a 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:18.239 few serious finales, and it's like brother average is low, 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:22.560 you know, and for granted, like like Mike was saying, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.000 like we have we have gripes, of course, but I 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.080 was entertained because I was pissed off. I was like, 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.000 this is a movie. When I looked at that run time, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.000 I'm like, this is a fucking movie. And then but 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.280 then as I'm watching it, I'm like, there's sections that 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.480 I could take and I can talk, we can have 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.400 a long conversations about which we're about to get into. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.480 We start off this episode right where we left off, 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.560 with Fade screaming Wayne's name as her and we were 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.400 playing on stealing money from her safe from his safe, 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.719 but obviously that didn't go well and now ru was 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.120 on the run. Ken, What did you think about how 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.400 we started this episode off with a chasing. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.600 Well, one, I think y'all getting soft, But two I 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:19.360 think that, oh, sorry, you asked for it. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:29.000 That's like like not everybody ain't gonna say we're. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.160 Trying to get sponsors by that. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:36.200 But but no, I think I think that made sense 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.240 because when you ended with the last episode, I was like, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.880 how the hell she gonna get out of this? So 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.840 taking that damn wrench his ass on the knee, you know, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.559 really allow her to run an escape from him because 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.960 it reduced his his ability to chase her down. Now 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.760 he can't shoot worth the ship. But that's fine. It's 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.760 you know, it's that I didn't expect him to his 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.439 knee was thribbed. I think it's fucking ship was broke, 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.880 so you know the only thing I didn't. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.520 Of course, they're gonna stick with this old Western thing. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.160 But you know, when dude through the rope called her 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.880 ass by the knee, I'm like, what the fuck is 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:12.040 Marshaw like? 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.000 Why did what? What? 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.040 What's going on? In any shotow of course? And then 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.880 uh Marshaan was me when he was like run, get 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.640 your ass up and run because I'm yelling at the 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.720 I'm like, why did she get up and run? 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:25.880 You know, I know she got dragged, you know, across 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:26.320 the ground. 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:30.840 But but nah, I think how they did that made sense. 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.360 From her punching the ship out of Fay hiding his 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.760 ass on the knee and barely escaping up out of 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:43.120 that tunnel. So I was cool with that, Yes, she did, 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.000 and Marshan's relaxed how he was acting in the car. 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.040 And what I loved about that scene, right was like 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.800 they both from Oakland too, and it's like it was 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.439 a it was a great way for like, like, I 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.240 don't know, it was just a great connection. She's been 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.640 having some great connections like behind the scenes in the show, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:10.880 and I like the fact that they've added that this 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.200 season because it was, like, I know, they don't have 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.040 a lot of nigga shit the. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.160 Clips, you know what I'm saying floating around. This is 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:21.760 the most getting she with Tom Holland and Robert Pattinson. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:27.040 That's a fad way. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.480 She was a little more black back in the day. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:31.520 She was younger. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.680 Holly woodn't and got a hold of them. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.000 Exactly, Shane, marsha and Lynch black And that was when 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.040 we got in this episode. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:42.040 So that's why I really fucked with that scene. What 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:43.880 about you, lu I. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:44.360 Fucked with it. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.880 I fucked with the whole Marshawn Lynch part of it, 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.520 y'all talking about I didn't too much like to escape 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.640 part out of the house though, like they felt cartoon like. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.720 I feel like they're just trying to make something happen 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.920 to get to another bigger point that I thought they 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.120 was gonna make and not stretch the whole scene out 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.320 throughout the whole episode. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:10.400 I thought. I that No, No, I don't feel. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.360 Like he didn't hear what she was trying to get 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.280 up through when she was trying to get up through 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.839 the barn thing, like I just think they was it 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.480 just it didn't go together to me. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.280 I feel like they were just doing ship. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:23.800 Oh man, that secret was good. 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.680 It was executed really well just from it actually, like 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.559 from a producing standpoint, Like it was just the way 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.160 they were going through that tunnel, like like that tight 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.679 space like that, that that took planning to do it that. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.880 Like that. That was good. That was really good. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.280 Did you enjoyed that whole scene ride like this that 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:43.720 I did? 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:45.200 It was intense. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.800 Yeah, it was intense and and like you know, like said, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.040 she hit him on the knee, she punched her, she 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.960 was running through it. I really didn't know when that 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.400 horse that was on top, like you just didn't didn't 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.600 know she was really gonna make it out. I think 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.320 you were. You were kind of tense. You thought she 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.320 that at this point she was gonna die. But but no, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.640 I thought they executed this, this whole thing well. I 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.720 even liked the little bassa thing like. I like that too. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.920 I could have them broken niggas. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.840 I ain't like that. 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:17.600 That's that's who they were, That's that's absolutely. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.120 Who That's fine, but I ain't got to see it. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.440 I felt it felt so, it felt racial as hell. 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:23.880 It was supposed to be. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.720 It was supposed to be that great. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:32.320 I ain't like, so, you ain't like how we opened 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.319 to see this episode. I like the tension. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.320 I like that, I like a ton of I like 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.280 how knocking niggas out. I like all of that. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:43.120 Until we started lasting niggas and dragging them through the sand. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.840 I ain't need to see that. And I was happy 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.439 as hell that mar shot ship out of him. So, 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.280 I mean, I guess they brought it back to a 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.760 certain extent, but I was like, what, I ain't. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.560 Like it, Mike, what about you? 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:04.720 I'm in between, Actually, I guess I'm in between all 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:09.640 of them. I understand everybody's take, but I didn't mind it. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:10.760 But I do agree with Spike. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:15.600 It was cartoony the way she was going up the ladder, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:17.840 and the dude was kind of you know, his leg 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.760 was broken. He was kind of moving until he got 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.400 right up on her, and then all of a sudden, 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.920 he was like sneaking up on her, and I was like, 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.040 wait a minute, why don't what are you doing? Are 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.480 you trying to get her or not? So I do 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.760 agree with Spike. That was a bit off, but I 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:36.440 still enjoyed it. I was still tense. I did like 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.080 when she grabbed the wrench. I thought she was gonna 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.760 bust dude in the head, but the fact that she 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.080 busted him in the leg and I was like, well 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.280 that was kind of that was kind of dumb, but okay, fine. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.760 But then when she punched Faye the nose, I was like, Okay, 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.400 I like that because it was smart because if she 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.360 punched her in the lip it she wouldn't have felt. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.920 It, so it was a good It was a good move. 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.480 To punch her in the nose, but I really wanted 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.520 Faye to get to get knocked out. Yeah, man, I 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.160 enjoyed all of this, and I still don't know much 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.840 about Marshawn Lynch, but I loved him in this scene. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.920 I do agree with Nay the roping was racial, but 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.600 I do agree with Rod that it was intended to 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.680 be racial. But I do agree with Nay that I 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.760 don't always need to see it. But at the same 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:23.920 time I get the point. So overall, I enjoyed the sequence. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.120 It was entertaining a hill to me like that. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.480 Again, this this whole season been cartoony in certain ways, 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.920 so like it kind of makes sense to ending on that, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.640 especially if you wanted to go back to the whole 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.080 Western thing, like somebody, somebody was gonna get it was 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.960 either gonna be a pig, black person's racial. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.960 It was a racially char season. Like one of the 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.280 other days they show pigs and they show rude and 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:49.880 they was both in hand and hand. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.840 So but I enjoyed it. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.880 But what really took me was like once we see 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.960 her get in the car with Marshaan again last episode, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:05.040 we know that Maddie told Alamo you got a fucking 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.920 rat in your fucking house. So when Marshon took takes 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.920 rude to see Alamo, I'm thinking, oh, this is what 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.600 shit about the pop off flu? You know what I'm saying, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.120 and then he all acting all nice and shit, you 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.560 know what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, he about to 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.040 just pull out a gun and shoot it. What did 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:20.880 you think about that scene? 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:21.080 Little? 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:22.880 Because I was like, I thought that was tense in 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.240 its own way. I agree with you. I thought that 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:25.640 was tense. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.440 I thought that was good and I thought for some reason, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.600 that's what we were about to sit in the episode with. 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:32.920 But it went by a little quicker than I expected. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.280 But they did a great job leaded up to it. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.480 Like you said, it was, it was tense, like you 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.320 got to see, all right, she made it through that 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.640 part of it, but Alamo still know what she got 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.320 going on because he paused or whatever it may be 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.280 when Mattie told him about it. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.840 So there was that thing lingering in the air there 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:51.960 that they did a great job of. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.000 Sure, I don't even know why Maddy said that shit 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:57.360 last episode that was. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.920 It didn't really even lead to anything even. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:11.720 Yeah, he killed off of that, that's right, the mind 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.800 off of that, yeh off of. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:20.640 Yeah, something about the d A and like, why would 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.720 you say that that was dumb? 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.159 Yeah, she was just talking. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.560 But Rob, what did you think about their conversation between 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.200 Rue and I don't know this early in this. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:35.880 Episode, No, this was this was this was really good. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.080 This is when just when he gave it appeals and 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:38.560 this is a. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:43.080 Different yeah co product placement in that motherfucker. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:47.359 Yeah, man, I mean he was he was so so 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.280 smooth with this that you know what I'm saying, basically 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.760 gave gave gave it a sword, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.640 and it's just like, dang, it's like I can kill 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.440 you without killing you, you know what I mean, because 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:00.600 you're gonna kill yourself. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.360 And and at that moment, I was like, damn, man, 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:04.600 I think was about to die. 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.400 I mean because like it's either it was either lace 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.280 with feminol or she was just gonna take the whole bottle. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:11.560 I know it was gonna be one of the other. 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.879 So you're telling me that the bottle itself was the fenanyl, 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.119 but the ones he had on the table was not. 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.240 Mm hmmm, that's what I'm thinking. 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.359 That's what I'm thinking, Like, like man, yeah, and in 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.399 just the way he was just so smooth about it 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.919 with the money, everything like really made her thought made 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:33.919 her think that, yeah, he fooled me. 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.400 Ship I'm like, did he not care? 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.359 Did not hear what she said? Was he like? 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.120 And to me? To me, Nate, I want to get 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:44.920 your thoughts, but I also to ask a quick question. 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.639 Should he be nominated for Emmy for this performance? 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.320 Don't get me wrong, I like the animal character, but 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.000 I don't think he did enough to get an Emmy nod. 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.880 To me, mm hmmm, yeah, so many other. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:08.800 Great actors in this show for this season, Yeah, I 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:09.159 think so. 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.000 I think I think that some of them is still 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:11.600 really good. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:16.880 Man like, yeah, oh okay, I got one, Okay, gonna 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.240 get it over r Well, No, I was gonna say 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.760 support like a supporting, but Ali's gonna get that. 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.720 He's get that over him. 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.320 I don't think anybody's gonna get nominated except for Zinda 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.720 in this show. Honestly, I think that because I mean 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.040 that's been the history of the show. Now, I will say, 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:34.360 Coleman potentially has a chance. I think to me, Coleman 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.600 and Andya carried this show this entire season. To me, 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.639 like I said, out a b C is good, but 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.199 at a b c's out of b C. We're used 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.399 to seeing him as a scary nigga, Like that's not 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.359 super out of range for him. 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:50.560 Mm hmmm. 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:52.439 So you feel like in this scene where we're like 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.440 he's talking to Ule, he's being super nice. 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:59.439 That was just like, okay, it was it was he 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.119 did a really good job, but it wasn't a layered 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:02.000 performance to me. 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:05.600 Gotcha. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:11.400 What were your thoughts on this scene, Mike. I thought 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.720 it was super tense. I didn't know where it was going. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.600 Like you said, Nick, I he got me for a minute, 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.280 but then I was like, no, this is Alimo. He's 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.280 doing something sketchy. But then when he put the whole 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:24.680 when he gave her the one pill, I was like, 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.960 all right, that was probably not a great idea. But 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.119 when he put the whole bottle down, I was like, fuck, 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.440 this is it. She's she's done. I mean, I knew 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.160 she was gonna die this episode. I just did. 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.280 But I was like, fuck, she's gonna she's gonna either 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:39.600 she's gonna take. 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.480 The whole bottle. I never at all thought about fentanyl. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.280 I it never even popped in my head. I just didn't. 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.000 I just wasn't thinking about it at the time. I 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:52.240 was just thinking because I didn't put together until after 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.159 she died that he had given her two different pills. 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.760 So in my head, when he put the pill. 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.360 Bottle down, I was like, well, okay, well he took 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.560 two pills out of that bottle and they both took him. 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.800 I never thought about finanal, but I thought that he 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.680 gave a really good performance here because he had me fooled. 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.640 He had me fool that he was he was cool 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.679 with her. I never thought that he was giving her 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.600 the bottle to kill her. I thought he was just like, 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.120 fuck it, whatever. I know, you're an addict. I bet 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.399 you a lot of my girls in her addicts. You know, 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:23.800 just take your ship and be good. 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.040 You know the reason why I thought that might because 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.720 earlier on he was like, you know, if you're gonna 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.760 be working with me, don't do that shit. Stay off 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.120 of that shit. You know what I'm saying. So why 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:35.440 are you giving it to her now? 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:37.560 I guess I don't. 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.239 I believe that that happened, but I don't remember that 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.600 that happened. But I believe you that he said that, 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.639 So that part wasn't in my brain, grass. 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:49.440 I said, I didn't say, but I'm on the same 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:51.760 side as Mike. I didn't think that he was giving 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:53.360 her Fintanyl. I thought she was. 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.119 Gonna take the whole thing mm hm. 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.360 And that's what threw me off in the sense of 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.360 did he do went on purpose or not? And then 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.920 when they tested it, of course it went out the window. Yeah, 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:05.840 I definitely thought it was just it was. 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:13.440 Just m Yeah, we're definitely gonna dive into more than that, Ken, 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.200 Did you have any other thoughts on that? 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:17.600 No? 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.680 I mean, you know, I think when the scene started, 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.080 the first thing that one of the things I was 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.199 thinking about was like, Okay, now you got it. He 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.040 has to confront her about what Maddie said, and he 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:34.120 was way too nice and appreciative of what she's done, 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:34.880 and he had like. 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.200 He completely forgot about it. 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:39.960 And when he put the two pills on the on 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:43.480 the table, I was like, oh, that's messed up and uh. 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:47.720 And then she took it, and then you know, rewarding 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:51.119 her because almost nice. He ain't that fucking nice and 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.200 started giving her all these rewards and stuff like that 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:58.320 and basically finding a way to get her to let 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.800 her guard down. And then he just left the pills 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.360 on the table and I was like, Okay, yeah, he's 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.960 setting her up to take that ship because you know 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.239 how addicts are, So he knew she was gonna take it, 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:10.600 because if he didn't want her to take it, he 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:12.200 would have He wouldn't put the shit on the table, 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:15.879 just would have kept it in his pocket. So so yeah, 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:17.800 So at first I was like, is he testing her 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:19.600 to see if she would do it? But at this 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.560 point when he did that, I was like, Okay, this 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:27.919 is his way of getting rid of her with doubt looking. 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.080 Like the murderer. You know, something happened. 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.320 So yeah, you know, the saddest part about all of 0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.439 this is like he told her she did a good 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.879 job and congratulated her. And if y'all remember it was 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.240 their episode or two back, she was telling those cops 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.600 that like, nobody ever tells her that she does a 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:48.040 good job, and she gets she gets. 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:49.560 It from him and then he fucking kills her. 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.040 I didn't think that the pills was gonna take her 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:55.800 out either at this point. 0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:58.159 For some reason, I was. 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.919 Still waiting on them to come in like kill her. 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:02.400 Yeah, me too. 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:06.000 So I was thinking, like he gave her the percoset, 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:09.959 and because the fact that she said I used to 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.560 love these, I was like, she's not gonna do it, though, 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.200 she's not gonna take her. She's still California, and she was. 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.840 She was she was fucking around with it too, because 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:20.440 she like she had it closes and she just put 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.000 it away and then she finally took it. 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:22.879 I was okay. 0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.320 So for some reason I was thinking they were gonna 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:27.560 follow her and kill her. 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:34.359 H Well, we don't get to rule later on a 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.160 little bit, but we have to talk about Big Eddie's 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.960 country road trip ken As we see that the drugs 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.280 are being installed to the van and then they're picking 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.000 up to a women that got the bbls and ship 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.440 about to send them back to the States. But then 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:53.000 she kind of goes off a little bit as we 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:58.080 see the DEAs on the ass and Wayne finally figures 0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.560 out that the drugs are not real drugs, at least 0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:02.960 not the ones that make you ship. What did you 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:10.200 think about this da bush. 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:08.840 When they when they ran up on the house and 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:14.000 Wayne left everybody there. I definitely thought the dad was 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:18.159 gonna kill himself. Uh, But so they did fake me 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:19.680 out with that. When he was looking at that dog 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:20.919 and was like, what you're gonna do? I was like, 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:25.840 that little motherfucker ain't gonna do Ship mother's dog brother 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.440 looking at you like what you're gonna do? Because hey, 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.919 I have to do a damn thing. So I did 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.200 like that scene how he just went ahead and and 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.880 you know, just was like, now I'll just go ahead 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:42.280 and go back. You know, Laurie or whatever her name was. Uh, 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:44.000 she went at and went through with it, and they 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:46.480 were I thought about the old man when I saw it, 0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:51.840 but she jumped off that damn building, but she was 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.520 she knew she couldn't go back or wouldn't go to prison. 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:56.000 So I liked. 0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:59.960 I liked that, and I think as we talk about 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.159 I hear what you guys say. I was really trying 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.080 to put together the whole thing. 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.360 With Eddie, you know, quitting. 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:13.199 I know that Alimo definitely that was his punishment for 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:16.359 Eddie was to send him on this this this uh 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.920 this dummy mission, you know, to get caught instead of 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:20.520 killing him. 0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.160 So I thought that that was a pretty smart move. 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.520 And it's plain while I was like, Okay, I'm surprised 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.320 he didn't kill him. Why is he still seeing him 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.560 on the mission? So it gave me an answer to that. 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:34.720 So I did like that part of it. But you know, 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.040 he just kind of messed up when they switched vehicles 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.840 when he didn't take the coke out, uh, you know, 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:41.920 of the truck and put it in the truck. So 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.520 I thought that that was pretty clever of them as well. 0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:46.680 But but overall. 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.920 I think this was this was I liked the old 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:53.040 scene and it just basically wrapped this whole story part 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:59.520 up with Wayne and Fay leaving and and them being arrested. 0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.000 So the d the d A didn't find it when 0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.760 they got the truck, right they found the. 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:12.040 Rap And was that was that? Or was that about. 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:15.600 Route him saying that he's a rat? 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.320 That was about Dwayne Wayne. I think Alamo knew Dwayne 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.760 Wayne was a rat. No, I thought that was about 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.199 how would he about if they were putting it in 0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.640 the ambulance? Wo wasn't even in the ambulance. Yeah, but 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.440 when Alamo was Maddy told about the d A, he 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.360 knew he had to switch up his plan. That's why 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.280 he he knew that if he knew, if she's telling 0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.560 him this information, now, that must mean that they may 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:39.720 know about the real plan. 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.359 So let's gout switch it up. So that was a 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.160 message to the d A telling them, I know there's 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:45.600 a rat. 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.560 God, God got it. Got it? Okay, that makes sense. 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:53.040 That I was still confused. I thought Dwayne Wayne was 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.560 working for the d A. I was like, they got 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.240 the man and. 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.080 I did too. I thought that's why he said I quit. 0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.199 I thought he was talking about the job with the. 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.600 D A R And then he was like, tell Alamo, 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.200 we said, what's up or whatever. I was like, see see, 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.040 I told you had d e A in the I 0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:12.680 was all off. 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.960 Mike John should have known Dwayne Wayne wasn't with the 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:17.240 d A. 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:22.320 Just looking at his stomach that didn't got three summits. 0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.800 I thought he joined the d A. He got shot. 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.199 I shot once he got shot, and Alamo was just like, 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.840 I don't care. I thought that's when he joined the 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:32.760 d A. 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.600 No, No, they never saw. 0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:36.880 Yeah. 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.360 Big Eddy realized that that Alamo sent him up. 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.480 That's why he quit. He was like, man, funk this ship. 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.680 Yeah. I thought it was interesting that. 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:52.920 Technically the the the Red Necks and stuff killed themselves 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:53.880 for nothing because it. 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.840 Wasn't actually drugs in the in the in the van. 0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.240 They just assumed that they were, and so they they'll 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:01.160 take themselves out. 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.480 Well, they was gonna they was gonna find drugs in 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:03.880 the house. 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.560 You know what, Yeah, because they did. They did detain 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:08.600 the two guys. 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:10.840 It was just Lord, just like I can't go back. 0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:17.800 Lord that early Yeah, walking wabbling to the to the roof. 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.080 You got you got all them guns in the house. 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.320 You're gonna hang yourself like you none the easiest way 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:28.120 she was. 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:28.760 Gonna make it out. 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:29.520 You see all them cos. 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:34.080 You see all them cops. 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.800 Oh, oh, I got you like when the way she 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:39.480 went out though, me too. 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:41.360 I like it was really good. 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:43.680 That was satisfying, even. 0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.480 Her shipping after she got hung, I was like, Okay, 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.120 that worked, all that worked. 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:55.480 Oh did y'all not notice herself? That was the blood 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:56.080 from her head? 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.160 I thought that was ship. 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:08.000 I didn't know that sure positive positive taking the word. 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:08.360 Yeah. 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.240 They even made the sound like they you shipped yourself 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:12.760 when you when you die like. 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:17.400 That, you know that instant. I mean, if you got 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:25.400 to go Nick right, he was walking up there right ride. 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.080 I'm only I'm only questioned it because if that was shipped, 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:31.040 that was a lot of ship. 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:32.200 She had. 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:38.760 All she had, she had a whole stream being cast 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:44.800 role with the raising potatoes. Raisins say that was some 0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:46.000 raisins and the potatoes. 0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.280 You always holding the ship or something? 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:54.720 What they did you do? 0:30:54.840 --> 0:31:00.000 Look like, first of all, the first question bird a bird? 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:01.920 Is that damn sensitive the ship like that? 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:04.600 Like that definitely? 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:10.280 Yeah, animals, yes, because they can hit the viborations for 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:11.920 a wild way exactly. 0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:14.080 Yeah. 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.480 Yeah, not believe that. 0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:19.400 No, it's true. It's true. 0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.040 You never heard the whole phrasing, like I think that's 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.600 where like the whole Canarian of coal mine thing comes from. 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.360 Like them used, no that never mind, No, it's not 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.560 never mind, forget what I said. 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:28.920 I think. 0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:30.840 That was wrong. 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:41.320 But to think about I was like, wait, don't that's that. 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:42.880 What that comes from? 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:49.480 The casus better rod? That sounds better. 0:31:54.280 --> 0:32:03.720 Word? Oh man? She was like they know something. I 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:04.840 was like, you got to listen to that. 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:08.120 Damn dog instead of them damn birders. I would trust them. 0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.760 The burst was going nuts and that punk ass dog 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:22.960 was like, Nigga, you don't know way more that this 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:24.400 relationship works, myiga. 0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:26.120 I like this. 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.240 I like that scene. I mean because it does kind 0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.720 of say that, like, you know, those type of white 0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:36.000 folks will will consider the lives of animals way higher 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.520 than anything else. So the fact that he was just like, 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.240 I'm not going to do this shootout because they end 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.160 up they might end up shooting my dog, and the 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:43.160 dogs already had a hard life. 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:44.960 He only has three legs, he. 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:50.080 Do so you didn't notice that just a dusty ass 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:55.560 dog was dusty? 0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.400 Yeah, get that out of here. 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:03.800 You'll call a dog dust Steve Man. It's in a 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:11.160 house full of fectanom. But the dog wasn't doing it, Mike. 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:12.880 If you want a dog with three legs and you 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.160 know what a four legged dog feel like, Hell. 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:16.719 No, I might be doing some drugs. 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.280 That dog probably matters. Hell, they don't clean run there. 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:25.080 But maybe I can go to a pound or something. 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.440 That's why it was like, yeah, go ahead and die bro, 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.920 take me out of here. Somebody the question. 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:36.160 So it's since they didn't actually find drugs is as 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:37.320 big as it going to jail. 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.240 No, because he didn't do anything wrong. He ain't do nothing. 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:42.080 He was just driving. 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:46.520 Yeah, yeah, that's what I was wanting. 0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.320 That's that's why they go to. 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.320 Right, That's why the cops said tell Alamo, We said, 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.400 what's up? Because there was nothing they could do to him. 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:56.320 I got it. 0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.920 What was your thoughts on the on the bus? I 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:04.680 thought Elima played it well. I wasn't expecting the double cross. 0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.320 I had to rewind it one time, like, wait, what happened? 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:09.399 But I think I thought Alian would played it well. 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:11.959 I was surprised he threw big Eddie under the bus. 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.480 I wasn't quite where y'all was within and saying that 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.000 he was gonna kill him or whatever it may be. 0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:18.960 I thought he was just trying to test him. 0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:21.560 Okay, I thought he was just trying to test him 0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.560 more so than than set him up. But I was 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.080 obviously wrong with that. But I like this whole scene. 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.640 All of this worked, the animals, the lowry part of it, 0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:31.160 all of it worked. 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.600 With that said Spike and Ken, are you at this 0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.239 point y'all still not rocking with the y'all not rocking 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:39.520 with the show right now. 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:46.160 So it's it's an entertaining episode. I'm entertained. But I 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.160 think Mike and Nick. Mike and Nick said it to 0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:52.799 end out a series like this like Euphoria what I 0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.399 know it for. I didn't think that this was how 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.719 you ended a show like this like this felt like 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.799 a one off. This felt like a good episode in 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.359 season two, episode seven. 0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.240 It felt like that versus the last time I'm gonna 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:08.760 see it. I'm seeing this. 0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:13.839 And for me, once I saw what Nick posted, and 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.719 I remember the conversations, you know, I was like, Okay, 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.480 they rot, they write about what's gonna happen. So you 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.920 know my concern, you know I've said, is how the 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.719 hell they're gonna end this shit to make it made sense? 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.360 And then when I saw that, I was like, Okay, 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:29.759 so now they're gonna have to wrap this up in 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:34.279 a way that concludes all the storylines. So when I 0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.160 saw this, I was like, Okay, well they out of here. 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:40.359 L Larry's dead and gone, and this whole storyline is over. 0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.120 So we're done with this part. 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:44.920 Now we're gonna move on to what's gonna happen with 0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:46.960 Rue Alamo and the rest of the cast. 0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.400 You would love to have more content from Frames per Second. 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:52.880 Become a patron where you can contribute to what we 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.200 review and discuss. Our Patreon gives the listeners the power 0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.320 to nominate and vote a monthly discussion in film review, 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.680 while also nominating and voting on weekly solo reviews from 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.680 each cast member. 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So then we go to the subsection 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.919 of his story with Maddie and Cassie because he now 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.560 has made them accessory to murder and also has them 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.440 locked into his business. And they at the diner drinking 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.200 coffee and having French toasts and you know, pancakes. 0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.520 You know, they don't know what the fuck just happened. 0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.680 Rod, What did you think about the conversation that they 0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:03.560 had at the diner, Like, do you did you find 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.440 that interesting that they are now like like. 0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.320 Blood sisters now based off of what happened. 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:14.239 This is probably the only part that's not satisfying for me. 0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:20.240 I know, like, through the seasons of euphoria, they've been friends, 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.120 they've been typed, they've been close, but damn man, this 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.239 chi literally married or your your man. 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:29.160 Like I wanted to see Maddie get some sort of get. 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:29.919 Back, and I don't. 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.960 I don't necessarily like the route they went with it, 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.520 with them just just getting closer after all of this, 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.279 I don't. I don't know if that was satisfying for 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:40.040 me personally. 0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:44.400 You wanted more mess, it's not. 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:48.280 I mean, they made the mess. They made, They created 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:49.200 the mess, and I just. 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.200 Wanted to see some sort of some sort of like 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.200 redemption for Maddie. 0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:55.920 And I don't feel like I got it. 0:37:56.040 --> 0:38:00.759 I feel like Cassie basically got everything you wanted until 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:04.919 she did or whatever due to him dying. But yeah, 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.400 I just wanted to see I wanted to see Maddie 0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.360 get paid back. I thought that's the route they were 0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.239 gonna go, So I guess I just I just wasn't 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.640 satisfied that that they're now closer than they ever been. 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.160 For that, Yeah, can I challenge you on one thing 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.080 before I now I want to get your thoughts too, 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:25.840 But when you think that, like after you witness not 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.080 only someone dying in front of you, that was the 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.279 first time Maddie ever saw somebody get shot and like 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.839 killed in that way, and then find out the man 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.720 that you used to love and maybe still have feelings 0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:35.880 for it. 0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.600 That's why you're still upset about their. 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:41.480 Union, Like showed up dead in a box full of snakes, 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.440 Like you wouldn't think that would change your mindset of 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.640 Like this shit is way bigger than what I thought 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.799 it was, and I'm kind of way past it now 0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.279 and I'm thinking about it differently, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:52.640 I know what you mean, Like you would have thought 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.680 she would have want revenge, but like after seeing all that, 0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:55.600 you don't think she would have to. 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:56.120 Change your heart? 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:03.919 M yes, yes, but that's not the storyline I wanted 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:09.319 to see. I guess alto with them, Yeah, what. 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:10.600 About your name? Was it satisfying? 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.880 I don't know if satisfying just the right word. 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:20.160 Them becoming like bonded for life didn't necessarily bother me, 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.560 because I've seen that happen in real life, like girls 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.879 in high school who was sleeping with each other's man 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:29.560 and then come out of high school and now their 0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.200 best buddies for less, they after going through a whole 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.400 lot less, So that didn't necessarily bother me. 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:40.600 But I think. 0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:41.719 It is. 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.640 I just don't like the way either one of these 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:47.680 storylines ended. 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:48.239 I didn't. 0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.680 I didn't like what happened when I didn't. I wasn't 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.600 satisfied with it. Just feels like they were left out 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.879 there and they didn't really know what to do. Nate 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.319 just damn disappeared, Like I don't. I wasn't happy with 0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.400 the way they just kind of it felt like loose 0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.040 ends left with them too, and they just like love 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.920 each other and best friends and working through this drama together. 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.520 I wasn't here for either one of these two storylines 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.440 in the way it ended. 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:11.960 So you don't like it. 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:16.000 I don't like it not because I wanted Maddie to 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.759 get paid back. I don't like it because it just 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.520 felt like this for a writing mhm. 0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.279 I guess that's essentially what I'm saying too, though, Like 0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:28.400 I wanted this storyline to go differently than what it 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:29.239 than where it went. 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:36.040 Mike, what were your thoughts on their how their story ended? 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:39.200 I was fine with it. I was fine with it. 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:43.279 I think that the point of them going through a 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:48.279 traumatic experience together, I can see that being a sort 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.560 of trauma bonding experience or a situation. 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.160 I don't know that. 0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.000 I got that they're going to be best friends forever. 0:40:59.920 --> 0:41:02.359 H I got that in the moment. If we're talking 0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:07.040 about the diner scene, I got in the moment Maddie 0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:10.960 felt sorry for Cassie because Cassie, if we're being honest, 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.879 this sounds mean, but she's the lesser of the two 0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.759 when it comes to common sense, you know, intelligence, all 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:23.040 of that. Like Maddie could make make it out a 0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:27.200 little bit easier than Cassie could. So I think Cassie 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.960 coming over and sitting next to Maddie and putting her 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.839 head on her shoulder, and then Maddie kissing her head, 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.279 I think that that's saying like, you know, yeah, you 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.440 went through something real fucked up, and you're gonna be 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:40.719 sitting with this for a really long time. 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:43.480 And yes, there is still an echo. 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:50.000 I don't know where that's coming from. I ain't I 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:51.440 ain't hear nothing but lou. 0:41:54.680 --> 0:42:02.960 What I'm gleaning close to Mike's side in the sense of, 0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.959 I'm satisfied with it. Once I figured out watching the show, 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.960 because this was before you sent the link, I think 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:12.440 I've kind of figured out at this point this is 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.719 the last episode, Like I ain't no more coming after this, 0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.080 And I'm not sure what more that I needed from 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.560 either one of them, being that they had gone through 0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:23.080 this traumatic episode together, like what Mike said in the 0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.640 sense of trauma bond, and in that moment, both of 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:27.239 them were taking a deep breath like this could have 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.080 been worse, like she could have owe a lot more 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.920 money and Cassie could have been god knows what in 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.640 his stable. Yeah, so both of them looking at it 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.239 like taking a deep breath, looking at each other, your 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.920 familiar face. We've been through this together. I'm cool with 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.600 that resolution in their relationship. I think they took it 0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.080 exactly where they needed to take it, uh in the 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:48.839 last episode as far as it's moving on. 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:54.560 From it, And do you agree with that point, because 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:56.839 like they kind of eased into like, all right, we're 0:42:56.840 --> 0:43:00.520 gonna turn my house into an influence the house and 0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:01.239 I'm gonna do this. 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.360 I'm over here design and dial. 0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:07.080 Thoz on the whim, Like like, did you think they 0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.520 just accepted their fight and just kind of pushed. 0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:16.040 Through doing the content house makes sense? So I get that. 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.879 And you know, Maddie's good at it, Cassie's good at 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:20.400 her part. 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.200 So I understood all of that. 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:28.400 You know, they they split apart because of Nate and 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.400 they came together because of Nate, so you know, it's 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.720 it's this sort of weird, full circle thing that happened 0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:40.000 with him. But at this point, I like this diner 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:47.080 scene and it confirmed some things that we suspected about 0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:51.320 what happened with Maddie when Cassie walked over and well 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.640 when Cassie started to kind of well up and cry, 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.759 so it felt like maybe she revealed her what she 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:00.960 had to do in order to to get with the 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:05.320 money and stuff like that. So I did like that. 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:09.000 It's just it was after this, it was everything after 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:13.279 this dynasty, where this whole thing just fell apart from me. 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:14.799 I like it. 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.279 So when we can, I do like the visuals of 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:24.880 the Dynasty. I do like that moment. I just I 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:26.600 don't know. I just wanted to see something different with them, 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:27.680 and I already said that part. 0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:31.200 But I do visually like what they did here with that. 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:37.239 It was like very somber, right, So I do like 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:38.719 what they did as far as that's what. 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:42.840 So yeah, I agree, I like the diner aspect of it, 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:44.839 and we could have kind of just ended with them. 0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:48.399 There the extended cut that we got when we were 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.160 back at the house where Cassie is talking to Lexi 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.440 about like what she got going on and how she 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.200 want her to be a part of the you know, 0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:00.160 the storytelling of the content were about to create. I 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.800 only cared about it because it got to Lexi's reflection. 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:05.799 But up until that point, I could do a fuck. 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.359 But because I really just enjoyed the diner scene, being 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.360 like they went through some shit together and now they cool, 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.520 you know what I'm saying, And you can you know, 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.440 French toast look good enough for a diner, you know 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:16.839 what I'm saying. 0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:17.920 I was fine with the scene. 0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:21.799 So are y'all saying that you just didn't like that 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:28.919 the story conclusion for Cassie, Oh, I thought. I thought 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:34.560 it was fine, just because Cassie has been used this 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:38.239 whole show, so for her to finally get to a 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.920 point where she's like, all right, I mean. 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.760 Hashtag girl boss. I was like, all right, that's fine. 0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.360 I mean, I think everyone was expecting it from Maddie 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.239 to be that, but the fact that it ended up 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.839 being Cassie, I'm okay with it because she's gonna need 0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.640 Maddie regardless, she's not gonna be able to run an 0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:00.680 empire on her own. That's why it does make sense 0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.680 that they did reconnect, because if Maddie just walked out 0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.239 and left Cassie to her own devices, all of this 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:07.080 would fall apart. 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.040 Well, I feel I don't want to see a strong 0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:16.680 white woman. When Nick, that's what it sounds like. 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:20.279 This is. 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.120 He just really said, you don't want to see these 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:36.759 European queens, these milk and Magnesian queens. Moving on. 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:40.160 We see that route. 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.720 After you know, getting her pat on the back from Alamo, 0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:48.640 goes to Ali's crib and it's. 0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:52.040 Just ready to kind of just move on. And but also. 0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.239 She notices something on the news about Fez and then 0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.919 we see kind of like him escape in prison park 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.400 Core and she's talking to Ali saying like I gotta 0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:06.680 go help him out because I said I would, And 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.960 we kind of get drifted off into a whole other 0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.000 side quest that ends up being like the main part 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:11.640 of the story. 0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:12.840 Louis, you're shaking. 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.279 Your head, and I wonder why that is when we 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.959 get to this part of the story. 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:21.879 By side, Quesch, you mean what ru was doing when 0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:24.520 she was looking so fast get this ship the fuck 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.200 out of here, man, Like I didn't. I wasn't here 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.839 for none of it. I hate but is this ain't 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:35.760 even just exclusive to Euphorial, any any show that goes 0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.880 dream sequence. It's automatic note for me, And I know 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:40.320 Soprano is one of my favorite shows. 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.520 They do a lot. I hate it there too, Like. 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.319 Dream sequences are dumb to me, Like, tell me the 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.400 story in the story, Max, It needs to be a 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:49.480 couple of minutes out to say. 0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:51.560 But I don't care. 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.920 About them finding out in their dreams, about them getting 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:56.319 this hitting message in their dream. 0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:59.240 Tell the story not. 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:02.800 That way, Spike, it was the story. 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:03.880 It wasn't a dream. 0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.960 She was she was, she was high and dying. 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.759 It was a dream. She was in a comato state. 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:22.680 Okay, Spike, hatch the fine dream real quick, Spike, that 0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:24.680 was not No, I didn't mean it. 0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.720 Everybody knows you didn't mean it that way. Nobody listens 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.480 to be Spike. Nobody listens to me. Why do you 0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:31.479 not figure this out yet? 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.560 This is the best part of the episode to me? 0:48:39.280 --> 0:49:00.560 Oh wow, that was rude. 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.280 Now, this is my favorite part of the episode. 0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.640 To me, it was And because it took me a 0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:09.359 minute well, I mean, yeah, it took I'm like, this 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:15.319 is weird, and then once you realize it was like 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:18.080 a dream. It was a gene sequence, like as we 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.279 get on and when she gets to the house, it 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:24.000 sees her mom and I'm just like, Oh, that's really 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.680 what we're doing, that's really how were going out. It 0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:34.680 felt like euphoria. This sounded like euphoria. There's always a 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:39.680 haunting scene of Zendia in her addiction, and that's what 0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:40.440 this was. 0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:41.919 And you realize it's the. 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:46.560 Last, the last, like the last oh man, like it was. 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:52.440 It was haunting and beautiful. But I will say that 0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:58.920 after this scene, once Ali actually wakes up, it's something 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:04.720 about it that felt anti climactic at the same time, 0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:08.160 and I don't know if that was intentional. I think 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:12.080 because of the way the show just continued on, I 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:15.359 felt like it didn't give me enough time to sit 0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:16.440 in the fact that. 0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:17.160 Ru was gone. 0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:21.879 So there was something about it that felt anti climactic 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.600 to me, and I just wanted more because because this 0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:30.480 show is her, I just wanted more time. 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:34.799 To sit with the realization that she's now gone. 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:38.279 I think that was the time that they was the 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.440 time I get it I just wanted more of it. 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:43.880 I feel like it was just enough at first, because 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:45.880 my thing is that I wasn't I wasn't ready to 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:48.920 accept that U was gonna die in this show. I 0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:52.880 know she she had to in this show just to 0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:57.399 give it a realistic feel. But now I agree, Man, 0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:01.239 I agree. I thought the scene was haunting all of 0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:04.399 the things like it felt. It felt like throw back 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:07.239 you for you, the whole running, just all of that, 0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:10.120 going back to the old spaces of the show. It 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.920 was just like a recap of what we know you 0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.719 for you to be. And I think, and I like, 0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:19.040 and I like how because I didn't think we were 0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.680 going to see faus So I like when we saw 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:23.040 fans and it was it was. 0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:26.200 Like it was just like whoa Like it was like 0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.359 it was like, damn, that's that's him. That's him for real. 0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:30.640 And they had that moment of them, like, you know, 0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:31.600 a happy. 0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:36.440 Moment with them. So now I really really enjoyed, enjoyed 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:37.600 this part. 0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:43.080 How about you, Mike. My spirits are still lifted. 0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:43.279 Man. 0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:44.160 I'm with Rod. 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:45.359 I'm with Rod. 0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:48.480 I do get Na's point, though, but I'm more with Rod. 0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:52.400 I think what made this work for me so extremely 0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:55.600 well is the fact that I was pissed. I was 0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:57.959 like this when when they first started showing fans doing 0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.520 parkour up the wall and then she's running after him 0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:04.120 and then she's ducking it, I was like, this is 0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:09.360 so disrespectful. I was like, this is disrespectful and unnecessary. 0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:13.080 Angus Cloud did not pass away to see the show 0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:15.880 do this shit to him. This is fucked up. But 0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:19.400 then I realized she was dead and I was like, 0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:25.520 oh my god, this is perfect. This is perfect because 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:27.839 when she was running away from the cops to use 0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:29.719 Spike's term, I thought it was cartoony. I was like, 0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:32.479 come on, man, like, cops are stupid and cops are bad, 0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:35.560 but really, you can't cast this little skinny ass really, 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:36.799 So I was like, this is dumb. 0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:39.680 But when she got in the house and she saw 0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:40.800 her mother, I was like, Oh. 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:42.960 She's dead. She's fucking dead. 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:48.400 This was amazing when she was reaching for her mother 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:51.239 and then it cut to her reaching up and she was. 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:53.280 Trying to catch her breath. 0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:56.000 I don't get choked up that often because I'm a thug, 0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.200 but that choked me up just a little bit. 0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:00.000 That what the fuck is Funnies by. 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:03.600 Y'all. 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:06.440 One of y'all laugh, I laugh silent. 0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:17.160 Somebody else is like, but no, man. 0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:20.719 I And to the point about wanting more time, I'm 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:22.879 in between Nay and Rod. I did want more time 0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:25.160 to sit with it, because when the show was over, 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:27.160 I was a little upset that we didn't actually get 0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:31.000 that scene with uh Nina King. I was a little 0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.359 upset that we didn't really get a full Well, we'll 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:36.439 get to the others people. But then when I thought 0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:40.000 about it, I was like, man, look, addicts die every day. 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:41.560 Addicts die every day. 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.680 And and I saw a little snippet of a Sam 0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:47.960 Levinson interview where he said, yeah, I mean this is 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:51.359 how this has to go because people like Rue don't 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:54.920 make it out. And that's true, we love Rue, but 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:58.120 this just tells you, like, you know, just because an 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.400 addict is lovable doesn't mean that they're not still an addict. 0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:04.600 So this was this was this was a I think 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.719 this was a great way to have Rue go out 0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:12.799 and Coleman Domingo, Jesus Christ ay. The fact that that 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:15.160 man started on one of the worst shows ever made 0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:19.720 and has landed into being one of the best. Fear 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:23.120 of the Walking Dead, Oh yeah, people forget he was 0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:25.120 even on that trash because he was the best part 0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:29.000 of that show. But seeing this man where he is, 0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:32.160 he is easily one of my favorite actors working in Hollywood. 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.360 He killed the scene when he came out of his 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:39.279 bedroom and he was like Rue Rue. I was like, oh, oh, 0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:42.319 my man, Colema was gonna have to find her and 0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:44.279 he rolled her over. And I love that they didn't 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:45.320 even show her face because. 0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.600 We didn't need all that. We didn't need all that. 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:51.840 They showed his face, and his face said every single 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:55.120 thing IN needed to say. This was this was Sam 0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:57.440 Levinson was killing it. 0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.600 I I was gonna ask Michael question, but I know 0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:09.160 it's gonna lead to a whole other conversation. 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.440 Were still talking about Rue. Go ahead and Lou I 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:12.399 was gonna say what I will say. 0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:14.080 Y'all put it together quicker than me that she was 0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.080 dead in the trip sequence, which is why I feel 0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:17.080 like I didn't like it as much. 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:19.400 I didn't put it together until she was reaching up 0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:21.120 and I was like, are they killing her like this? 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:21.920 Like right here? 0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.799 But what I do agree with is how they did 0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:27.680 it in the sense of like what you said, like 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.399 how addicts died every day, so it wasn't this big 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:34.080 dramatic thing that happened, because that's not what happens to people, 0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.879 Like it's because it takes a bad pill or something 0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:39.520 like that and it's like, oh shit, somebody finds them. 0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:42.279 So I do think that they nailed that part up 0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:44.640 it once I understood what was going on, because I 0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:46.120 just thought it was a dream sequence and she was 0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:48.000 gonna wake up. But once I see her grasping for 0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:51.840 the thing, I was like, oh shit, she's dying so and. 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.279 Oh man, yeah, yeah, yeah they did. They wrapped it 0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:00.239 up really nicely for it to be a death, you 0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:02.279 know what I mean. And I also like the fact 0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:05.839 that that she had her headphones in because I means 0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:09.040 she listened to Yeah, she listened to the Bible that 0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:11.520 she was dying. So I was just like, dang that, 0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.400 I really like that because we know, we know she 0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:19.480 wanted set up like like that'd be a. 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.000 Cool way to die, listen to the Word of God. 0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:23.400 No, that's that's that's a good point. I didn't think 0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:26.400 about it until you said it was like, why. 0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:29.080 Is she back in Genesis? Hasn't she been reading back 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:36.520 at the beginning? So but yeah, oh. 0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:41.040 She was back at this is this is a huge reach. 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.280 Maybe she was well, she was both. 0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:47.560 The whole full full circle of the story, but also 0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:51.239 Alamo was basically the devil and gave her the forbidden fruit. 0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:57.200 Right again, that's a huge reach, huge reach. But I 0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:58.480 didn't think about it until you just said it. 0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:01.319 Good job, he's a snake. I mean they've been they've been. 0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:04.480 Saying they're playing with that the whole season. 0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:06.839 Yeah, and then the last team when we see him 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:08.520 man like one of what not the last scene, but 0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:10.439 in that last show that he's right there with the snake. 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:12.640 So I don't think it's sup that far fetched. 0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:14.840 Yeah, I loved it. 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:19.640 I know I'm learning, y'all right, God is good. 0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:21.560 That is good. All the time. 0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:25.520 Came for me. 0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.640 I didn't realize she was dead until I saw her 0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:30.800 mama finger on that by. 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:42.440 That was an e. That's a dead figure? 0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:48.400 Is that? 0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:53.720 But you did you. 0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:54.520 See what songs? 0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:55.800 I didn't see what. 0:57:56.880 --> 0:57:59.280 I'm sure that that had a meaning to I. 0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:01.480 Didn't think to check what Bible verse she was reading down. 0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:03.120 I wish I had, because I bet it meant Yeah, 0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:09.640 I bet it did mean something. Now, I really liked 0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:13.080 how they did this. I was fine with accepting that 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:16.800 she could die or she would die. I just looked 0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:18.320 the one thing I did love. And when y'all pointed 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:20.320 out the Fatida to show her face, like you just 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:23.520 see her dead, just her dead body. And I know 0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:26.760 for Ale, like they were talking about being spiritual and 0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:29.160 getting back and then like for him to find out 0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:32.400 that she passed that way. 0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:34.880 God, Ken, what was your thoughts on on that scene? 0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:38.480 Most of. 0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:40.680 You know? 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:45.240 Yeah, I mean, you know, I was like, okay, that's it. 0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.240 Like I felt nothing. I was just like, all right, 0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:51.560 well r was gone. I had no attachment, nothing, nothing. 0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:54.720 It was like she out of here, and and that's 0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:55.760 that's how we're going to end. 0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:02.680 The room. 0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:05.240 Maybe we don't know that. 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:06.400 Yeah that's true. 0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:08.320 We don't know. 0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:13.960 You said that's not gonna be the figure. 0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:22.360 Of Chigg and JV does locker. 0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:32.080 So yeah, I was, you know, much like Spike. I 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:35.080 was and and and and Mike as well. I was 0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:37.760 cussing and yelling at the screen because none of the 0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:39.640 ship was making sense. And then I realized it was 0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:42.840 a dream because I'm like, okay, you're running. 0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.160 First, when I saw this motherfucker parkouring up the wall. 0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:46.400 I'm like, that's stupid as fun. 0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:48.560 And then we went through and then you have to 0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.840 damn cops, and then she went to the cops ran 0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:54.480 under and then the cops couldn't find I'm like, okay, 0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.120 none of that ship makes sense, you know, and Rude 0:59:57.200 --> 0:59:59.640 duck through there, yelling fast name, so I'm screaming. And 0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:02.880 then she getting there, I'm like, oh, ship, this motherfucker. 1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:06.080 This a dead ass fucking tree. I'm like, okay, well, 1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:09.920 this is the moment she died. And then she's crop, 1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:12.760 you know, reaching up in the sky and ship like that, 1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:14.960 and you know, and I'm like I was because at 1:00:15.000 --> 1:00:16.400 first I was like, oh, look, Rude. 1:00:16.200 --> 1:00:20.080 Didn't take the pills, and but ship, that was a lie. 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:23.040 And then they killed her off and I was like, okay, 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:25.520 Like even when Ali felt found her, I was like, 1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:28.400 because I had already seen Ali earlier, like that didn't 1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:28.760 even do. 1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:30.600 Ship for me, you know, so. 1:00:32.160 --> 1:00:34.200 Nah man, it was just like all right, well, and 1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:38.440 then I saw we had an hour left, I'm like, oh, ship, man, I. 1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:40.720 Did the same thing, right, And I was like, what 1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:43.000 the fuck am I gonna do for the next hour? 1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:45.600 Like why I'm not even I don't even care about 1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:47.160 nothing else like rude dead, like. 1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:49.000 They didn't everything with Maddy and Cassie. 1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:52.080 I swear I did the same thing and hit the 1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:52.920 button on the remote. 1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:59.240 It was like an hour like turn this ship? What 1:00:59.360 --> 1:00:59.959 are we doing? 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:03.760 Jan if y'all didn't know what it's called, youphor it 1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:04.760 ain't causing there. 1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:09.040 I don't agree with Ken and I feel nothing. 1:01:09.040 --> 1:01:10.959 I did feel for the character because I was in there, 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:14.080 But once I seen there was an hour left after that, 1:01:14.080 --> 1:01:16.000 I was like, there's nothing that they could do in 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:17.640 this next hour that would impress me. 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:19.440 Nothing because. 1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:22.640 Why would you. 1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:30.480 Was dead? Yes, bro't here for this is the rule show. 1:01:30.600 --> 1:01:35.160 If you asked me like it, it is, so an 1:01:35.200 --> 1:01:36.920 hour left, I was already irritated. 1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:39.560 I'm like, kid, what the fuck they're gonna do for 1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:40.960 the next hour? You know what? 1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:43.360 I I don't agree with Spike, but I do agree 1:01:43.400 --> 1:01:45.640 with Spike. I did look at the time and I 1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:47.640 was like, oh, there's an hour left. I thought we 1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:51.240 were gonna spend that next hour spending time with all 1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:53.880 of the other characters and how this death affected them. 1:01:54.960 --> 1:01:57.960 I get why they didn't do that, but that's why 1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:00.000 I was okay that she died halfway through the show, 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:01.520 because I thought we were gonna get like a big 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:05.960 emotional not necessarily a funeral, but just everybody having to 1:02:06.080 --> 1:02:12.240 deal with her death, especially pocast Lexi, because Room might 1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:14.840 still be alive if it wasn't for as Lexi. 1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:18.439 I would need to see her reaction. Bro we could 1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:20.560 have seen, but. 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:24.600 Lexi was the one that old what's her name? Maddie didn't. 1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:29.200 She didn't. Lexi didn't for that, so that labor But. 1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:33.640 Maddie, Yeah, Maddie, Maddie killed Ruth at the end of 1:02:33.640 --> 1:02:34.000 the day. 1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:36.120 And no, that's true. 1:02:36.520 --> 1:02:36.919 That's true. 1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:39.880 And I'm like, and you had to have realized that, 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:43.080 so I hope you didn't realize that at the very 1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:46.120 end when we saw her put it together in her mind, like, 1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:47.960 I hope that had had been a thought. 1:02:48.360 --> 1:02:49.440 But I do agree. 1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:52.040 I wanted to sit with the reactions, and that's what 1:02:52.040 --> 1:02:54.400 I meant when I said it after I wanted more time, 1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:58.000 Like I wanted to see if we're gonna do forty minutes, 1:02:58.040 --> 1:03:00.840 forty five minutes to an hour more of this show 1:03:00.920 --> 1:03:03.920 without rue. I want to see people's impact of that, 1:03:04.360 --> 1:03:07.200 not fast forward a whole month, and and and me 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:11.040 not really being able to see any real change out 1:03:11.040 --> 1:03:13.760 of anybody's situation as a result. 1:03:13.400 --> 1:03:17.080 Of yeah, like at all. 1:03:18.040 --> 1:03:19.880 Cassie was sitting on the bed talking, well, she was 1:03:19.880 --> 1:03:24.120 an addict, which I understand is how yeah, But at 1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:26.200 the same time, like they it's almost like they really 1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:29.040 just didn't give a fuck. It's just like Jules Jews 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:31.520 just she just like you just slapped her in the painting, 1:03:31.520 --> 1:03:33.400 and now you're gonna paint her like what the fuck 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:36.280 like your last thing of jusus you slapping the ship 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:38.640 out is in there, that's your last memory you have 1:03:39.200 --> 1:03:40.720 and then tell her to get out of your painting 1:03:40.760 --> 1:03:41.360 and walk it out. 1:03:42.280 --> 1:03:44.880 I don't know, I feel like this was Oh sorry, 1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:45.400 go ahead, Rod. 1:03:45.840 --> 1:03:47.360 I was just saying I thought I thought she was 1:03:47.400 --> 1:03:52.040 emotional actually when she was, and I liked that, like 1:03:52.120 --> 1:03:53.880 you we got from I like, and I like what 1:03:53.960 --> 1:03:54.800 we got from Lexi. 1:03:55.960 --> 1:04:00.160 Uh, that's my spirits are back down low because I 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:08.480 disagree with Rod. I hate that I have to disagree today, 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:11.200 But nah, I don't like what I got from Lexi 1:04:11.240 --> 1:04:14.720 because I don't need this profound anything from her at 1:04:14.720 --> 1:04:17.280 this point, because I just don't want to hear it 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:19.440 from you. I do agree that that Maddie is the 1:04:19.480 --> 1:04:23.280 bigger problem. But Lexi treated her like shit the last 1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:26.880 time she saw rue. So for all of this, like, oh, 1:04:26.920 --> 1:04:30.480 this means that like maybe you know, I'm not well, 1:04:30.480 --> 1:04:32.360 I forgot what she said, I'm not a terrible person, 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:34.840 or that everything I did wasn't wrong something stupid. I'm like, 1:04:34.840 --> 1:04:35.760 I don't want to hear this shit from you. 1:04:35.840 --> 1:04:36.240 Shut up. 1:04:36.880 --> 1:04:43.720 But forgiveness, yeah, yeah, it's also about vengeance. 1:04:44.280 --> 1:04:46.440 So I would have liked for vengeance to hit Lexi 1:04:46.520 --> 1:04:47.240 one good time. 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:49.600 But they say it was a lot of violence and 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:50.120 sets in the. 1:04:50.120 --> 1:04:53.720 Bible about the Bible and stuff. I like, I like 1:04:53.800 --> 1:04:55.600 what she was saying about it. She's like, it's actually 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:59.760 actually kind of beautiful and tragic and and all of 1:04:59.800 --> 1:05:02.720 the I like that moment. I like that realization with her, 1:05:02.720 --> 1:05:04.520 because she she was just like at first, it's like 1:05:04.520 --> 1:05:06.600 fuck it, don't get that ship out of my house, 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:11.760 like like, but I like that she you know, she 1:05:11.760 --> 1:05:14.440 she came to a realization that is actually something that 1:05:14.480 --> 1:05:15.280 she might look into. 1:05:15.520 --> 1:05:17.880 It seemed like she was the only one who actually 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:21.000 sat with her emotions and figured out because she did 1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:24.320 have the guilt of how she handled Rude for the 1:05:24.400 --> 1:05:27.400 last time, so it seems like she was the only 1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:32.760 one who actually communicated how she was processing the feelings 1:05:32.800 --> 1:05:33.720 of Rude dying. 1:05:33.880 --> 1:05:35.439 So I will give her that. 1:05:36.360 --> 1:05:41.040 I mean, she's probably my least favorite character this season. 1:05:41.320 --> 1:05:43.840 But I will say that at least. 1:05:43.560 --> 1:05:48.120 She was trying to express and I have a conversation 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:52.840 about how it made her feel. But nobody else, like Cassie, 1:05:53.000 --> 1:05:58.120 Maddie Jewels, nobody else was I feel like in touch 1:05:58.200 --> 1:06:02.440 with what they with the emotion of losing room and 1:06:02.480 --> 1:06:03.600 what that meant. 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:06.600 Here's what I'll say about that. I do agree again, 1:06:07.880 --> 1:06:11.520 but the reason Lexi shit bugged me is because Lexi 1:06:11.600 --> 1:06:12.960 just made it about herself. So I was like, I 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:14.680 don't care about anything that you're saying right now. 1:06:15.960 --> 1:06:18.760 With the thing with addicts and addicts dying, especially if 1:06:18.800 --> 1:06:21.000 they're addicts that you've known for a long time and 1:06:21.040 --> 1:06:22.920 you've known that they were addicts. 1:06:23.000 --> 1:06:25.160 This is kind of how it goes like. 1:06:25.280 --> 1:06:28.400 I don't think any of them were actually best friends 1:06:28.920 --> 1:06:33.360 with Rue Jewels, and we should have seen Lexi be 1:06:33.480 --> 1:06:35.760 a little bit more emotional. But I think they also 1:06:35.760 --> 1:06:37.160 said this was a couple months later. 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:41.000 Yeah, so I think to expect that they're still broken 1:06:41.040 --> 1:06:43.440 up about this. I've had addics die and you're kind 1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:45.520 of like, yeah, it sucks for a couple of weeks, 1:06:45.520 --> 1:06:47.040 and it's like, well, we kind of expected it. 1:06:47.840 --> 1:06:48.440 I think they. 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:52.600 All expected Ru to die. I don't think anyone expected 1:06:52.680 --> 1:06:53.920 Ru to kind of make it out of this. 1:06:54.880 --> 1:06:55.120 Now. 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:58.400 I do slightly agree with you about Jules, and that 1:06:58.600 --> 1:07:01.200 was Nick what I said beginning. That was my biggest 1:07:01.200 --> 1:07:05.680 gripe with this whole episode is you didn't do ship 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:09.600 with Jules. If there was one person that we should 1:07:09.640 --> 1:07:13.040 have seen break down. If you didn't want to pay 1:07:13.160 --> 1:07:17.720 Nina King her money, fine, but you already had Hunter 1:07:17.760 --> 1:07:20.760 Schaeffer on the damn show. Just pay her the dough 1:07:21.000 --> 1:07:23.560 and give her the scene that we all expected to see. 1:07:24.240 --> 1:07:25.320 So that pissed me off. 1:07:25.760 --> 1:07:27.240 To be broke up about her being dead. 1:07:27.240 --> 1:07:29.200 I can't be the only one in this room sad, 1:07:29.640 --> 1:07:32.120 like somebody needs to be. And even if it's just 1:07:32.200 --> 1:07:36.560 hard leaving a pitthouse dude, because of the realization that 1:07:36.640 --> 1:07:40.320 Rude's not here anymore, like just something I needed somebody's 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:43.480 situation to change change. 1:07:44.600 --> 1:07:45.800 Also impact of. 1:07:45.840 --> 1:07:51.040 That, Yes, that's it, though I get it was it 1:07:51.080 --> 1:07:53.040 was it, But I mean he was that was I mean, 1:07:53.080 --> 1:07:57.480 that was anybody that's that's the best actor. 1:07:58.000 --> 1:08:00.200 But he said, I think it's you. 1:08:01.880 --> 1:08:02.600 As his daughter. 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:07.960 He did, he did, But as far as him her like, 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:11.800 I think that that I'm with y'all. I do think 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:14.120 that he brought it home and it did make sense 1:08:14.120 --> 1:08:16.800 for him to be the biggest emotional impact. But I 1:08:16.840 --> 1:08:19.840 think I think Hunter Shaffer was right there, yes, right there, 1:08:20.920 --> 1:08:23.240 robbed the audience of seeing that, and I think that's 1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:27.960 a problem. Someone said, someone said, Luke that we saw 1:08:28.080 --> 1:08:35.320 more of kitties BBL than of Jules's. 1:08:35.439 --> 1:08:38.439 Unfortunately, I think was. 1:08:38.400 --> 1:08:42.439 Able to definitely pull that scene off. Mike. I'm wondering 1:08:42.479 --> 1:08:43.000 did they. 1:08:44.439 --> 1:08:46.559 Did they want to give the impression that none of 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:49.200 the none of her friends, so called friends cared about 1:08:49.200 --> 1:08:50.400 her as much as. 1:08:51.680 --> 1:08:52.320 My man did. 1:08:53.000 --> 1:08:55.400 I don't think so. I think, honestly, I think that 1:08:55.479 --> 1:08:57.120 this was just a rush job. 1:08:57.400 --> 1:08:59.400 And they didn't want to pay the people to do 1:08:59.479 --> 1:09:02.960 it because it doesn't make any sense. They can't make 1:09:03.040 --> 1:09:05.800 us believe that Jules did not care that Rue died. 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:07.720 There's no way they can make me believe that. 1:09:08.400 --> 1:09:11.720 But go ahead, no, no, go ahead, make a part 1:09:11.720 --> 1:09:14.280 of this season was about that a lot of people 1:09:14.320 --> 1:09:16.800 have moved on so much in their lives and Rule 1:09:16.800 --> 1:09:20.080 is still kind of doing her stuff, and they, like 1:09:20.120 --> 1:09:22.719 one of y'all said, expected her to die. 1:09:22.800 --> 1:09:24.519 And I only thought of this when y'all were talking 1:09:24.560 --> 1:09:26.320 it out. It's made me think of it. I think 1:09:26.360 --> 1:09:28.880 that all of them kind of looked at this as 1:09:29.360 --> 1:09:33.160 an inevitable thing that was about to happen, where Colin 1:09:33.200 --> 1:09:35.639 Domingo's characters looking at it like, no, I can save her, 1:09:36.120 --> 1:09:39.200 Like I hear her talking about the Bible and God 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:41.840 and Jesus and her warning to leave a better life. 1:09:41.840 --> 1:09:44.040 But I don't think any one of these people ever 1:09:44.120 --> 1:09:46.920 believed it, which is why we never got that emotion 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:49.160 from them. But we did get the emotion from College 1:09:49.160 --> 1:09:51.760 Domingo in the sense of no, I thought this was 1:09:51.800 --> 1:09:54.880 going to happen up until the last moment, even before 1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:57.120 she went out there to pick up the drugs or whatever. 1:09:57.160 --> 1:09:58.719 I'm like, I'm trying to take her to her mom's 1:09:58.720 --> 1:10:01.559 house and get her not to do this. It kind 1:10:01.560 --> 1:10:03.040 of showed it he was the only one in the 1:10:03.080 --> 1:10:04.320 show that really cared about her. 1:10:04.439 --> 1:10:07.400 I agree with you, Spike, and that's my problem this 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:13.479 show Euphoria. It started with Jewles and Rue. They were 1:10:13.520 --> 1:10:17.120 the two main characters of this show. And the fact 1:10:17.120 --> 1:10:21.640 that Sam Levinson already has a reputation for what he 1:10:21.680 --> 1:10:25.479 did with Kat in season two. He did the same 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:28.360 thing to Jewles that he did to Cat so and 1:10:28.720 --> 1:10:29.360 you can't. 1:10:29.520 --> 1:10:30.439 You can't take. 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:32.800 One of the main characters of a show and just 1:10:32.840 --> 1:10:35.759 act like she doesn't exist. And that was my issue 1:10:35.760 --> 1:10:38.240 with this. We should have seen a lot more of 1:10:38.320 --> 1:10:42.759 Jewles this episode, and that was to me poor writing, 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:45.960 really poor writing or just poor planning, whatever you want 1:10:46.000 --> 1:10:47.040 to say, I. 1:10:46.960 --> 1:10:47.400 Think it was. 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:50.559 I mean, it's like what I think it was, mainly 1:10:50.600 --> 1:10:52.120 what I said in the beginning. I don't think she 1:10:52.280 --> 1:10:55.479 had the ability to I think she's really busy. 1:10:56.040 --> 1:10:59.120 Yeah yeah, I mean he's really busy. So he had 1:10:59.160 --> 1:11:00.719 to write her in the That's why he could. 1:11:01.400 --> 1:11:04.720 And that's good, bro, that's not just said in the 1:11:04.760 --> 1:11:06.360 best way he could, like you know, I. 1:11:06.320 --> 1:11:08.519 Mean, but I don't feel like it would have taken 1:11:08.560 --> 1:11:10.439 that much, Like they could have taken the scene of 1:11:10.520 --> 1:11:13.200 her painting and make it and just give it a 1:11:13.200 --> 1:11:16.000 little bit more drama, having more of a reaction, have 1:11:16.120 --> 1:11:19.160 her interacting with the Elliott dude, just have her like 1:11:19.360 --> 1:11:24.160 actually like act out the emotion that she was supposed 1:11:24.160 --> 1:11:25.719 to be exhibiting while she's painting. 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:27.599 See that shit was dead to me after the way 1:11:27.640 --> 1:11:31.080 she left that pain on her last time, Like nah, 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:33.360 now that that was dead like like and and the 1:11:33.360 --> 1:11:36.679 way that Ru was hurt at that point, At that moment, 1:11:36.800 --> 1:11:39.280 I'm like, yeah, that relationship isn't what it used to be. 1:11:39.360 --> 1:11:41.240 I mean, yeah, a relationship don't have to be where 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:41.760 it used to be. 1:11:41.800 --> 1:11:43.720 That doesn't mean that I don't feel something when you 1:11:43.880 --> 1:11:46.439 die just because I'm not with you anymore, just because 1:11:46.479 --> 1:11:47.720 we are no longer in. 1:11:47.760 --> 1:11:49.040 Relationship with each other. 1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:53.280 Like to know that Ru is dead, should still like 1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:56.800 I should still bring something out of her other than 1:11:56.920 --> 1:12:00.840 some watercolors on a painting and walk away like I 1:12:00.920 --> 1:12:06.280 needed something else, some other sort of reaction from if anyone, Jules, 1:12:06.520 --> 1:12:09.439 to show that there was some some sort of impact 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:11.519 that this character had on these people's lives. 1:12:11.560 --> 1:12:14.840 That was her outlet. That was her outlet, and that 1:12:14.840 --> 1:12:17.320 could be a therapy. But you know, I. 1:12:19.960 --> 1:12:25.160 Mean different, and it's gonna make good TV exactly. Yeah. 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:27.800 Yeah, Look I'm with y'all. I wish that she could 1:12:27.800 --> 1:12:29.960 have been a part of the show more. I really 1:12:30.000 --> 1:12:33.000 thought she was gonna be. But I think it's probably scheduling. 1:12:34.479 --> 1:12:40.640 I think they did two things. Now they're talking it 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:41.000 out too. 1:12:41.000 --> 1:12:43.080 More like I think Sam Levice did two things in 1:12:43.080 --> 1:12:46.479 the sense of we wanted more from those characters, but 1:12:46.520 --> 1:12:52.000 I think they already had accepted it, versus us wondering 1:12:52.120 --> 1:12:54.240 is Rulee going to die as a character? So I 1:12:54.240 --> 1:12:57.560 feel like us the viewer, we're more in Colin Domingo's 1:12:57.640 --> 1:12:59.080 character in the sense of you go out here and 1:12:59.120 --> 1:13:01.240 you do all of these things because you cared about 1:13:01.280 --> 1:13:03.880 Rule as a character, as a person, but all of them, 1:13:04.120 --> 1:13:06.519 I think, And what he's trying to say is no, 1:13:07.120 --> 1:13:08.960 like you said in the interview clip that you've seen, like, no, 1:13:09.080 --> 1:13:10.080 this is how it happens. 1:13:10.360 --> 1:13:12.400 They had already accepted it a long time before. 1:13:12.439 --> 1:13:15.639 It's including jewels, and I think that's why we didn't 1:13:15.640 --> 1:13:16.720 get that emotion from them. 1:13:17.160 --> 1:13:18.920 I kind of think that he wrote it that way. 1:13:20.280 --> 1:13:22.000 I think you've given him a little bit of bell. 1:13:22.200 --> 1:13:23.800 I think that talking about how you. 1:13:23.760 --> 1:13:26.080 Dis servicing the fans all season though, like even with 1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:30.680 the swingy stuff, with the swingy stuff, and yeah, like 1:13:31.000 --> 1:13:33.280 he's listening to what people are saying about the show. 1:13:33.600 --> 1:13:36.200 So I think there's two sides of how you're taking Rule's. 1:13:35.880 --> 1:13:38.200 Definite sense of there's some people who wanted it to 1:13:38.240 --> 1:13:41.559 be like nostalgic and wanted to be glamorized and have 1:13:41.680 --> 1:13:45.200 these emotional moments. And those are the people like the 1:13:45.200 --> 1:13:48.519 Colin Domingo that got done at the end. However, there's 1:13:48.560 --> 1:13:50.080 also this side of it looked at it like this 1:13:50.200 --> 1:13:52.040 was always going to happen. This was the end of 1:13:52.080 --> 1:13:55.040 the story. That's how addicts usually die. And these are 1:13:55.120 --> 1:13:57.679 the reactions that you get. Do they go through phase 1:13:57.760 --> 1:14:00.160 There are different times that you feel different things, But 1:14:00.520 --> 1:14:02.559 if you fast forward a month or two months later, 1:14:02.720 --> 1:14:05.040 this is how people usually talk about someone who did 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:07.400 pills or who was living. 1:14:07.160 --> 1:14:09.320 The lifestyle and left lived. 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:11.320 I got all that, and I don't want to spend 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:13.840 too much more time on this, but I'm with you, Spike. 1:14:14.360 --> 1:14:16.160 What I'm saying is we didn't have to get Jewels 1:14:16.160 --> 1:14:18.040 three months later. We could have got everybody else three 1:14:18.080 --> 1:14:21.160 months later. If there's anybody else here, I would have 1:14:21.160 --> 1:14:25.160 loved to have seen it. Yeah, I mean, in the moment, 1:14:25.400 --> 1:14:29.920 I'm sure Jewles was heartbroken because the last time she 1:14:30.200 --> 1:14:33.599 saw ru she smacked the shit out of her. We 1:14:34.120 --> 1:14:37.880 as the audience could have seen that and felt something 1:14:37.920 --> 1:14:42.040 from it, and they just glossed over it. And I 1:14:42.080 --> 1:14:45.160 think that was the problem. I'm with you with everything else, Spike, 1:14:45.240 --> 1:14:48.360 And I don't know that I believe that Sam Levinson 1:14:48.360 --> 1:14:50.720 wrote it like that. I think it's far more what 1:14:50.840 --> 1:14:53.639 Rob was saying that Hunter Shaffer just did not either 1:14:53.720 --> 1:14:57.360 didn't want to be involved with this with the season 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:00.600 that much, or it was a scheduling on flick and 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:02.800 he just did what he could. But I think that 1:15:02.960 --> 1:15:06.400 what he ended up going with was not great. Gotcha 1:15:06.640 --> 1:15:08.640 and you got any thoughts on Jews before we move on? 1:15:10.280 --> 1:15:20.679 No, we didn't see uh we get done at this point. 1:15:20.680 --> 1:15:23.520 I'm like, let's get this ship over crazy. 1:15:23.760 --> 1:15:26.840 We didn't see Bishops take Maddie to Alamo's Club, as 1:15:26.880 --> 1:15:29.240 you know that Maddie and Cassie are still a part 1:15:29.280 --> 1:15:33.800 of his whole business plan. Lou, what did you think 1:15:33.840 --> 1:15:35.840 about the conversation Alim Will had with Maddie in the 1:15:35.880 --> 1:15:38.280 back about his epiphany. 1:15:39.160 --> 1:15:42.200 Remind me again what he said. He was saying he 1:15:42.240 --> 1:15:43.160 want a wife rubs. 1:15:45.040 --> 1:15:50.559 Yeah, yeah, because he flicked and he realized that you 1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:54.240 don't want to have babies. He was still running game 1:15:54.320 --> 1:15:56.560 on her, talking like whatever she would go for, he 1:15:56.640 --> 1:15:57.800 trying to see how far she would go. 1:15:58.520 --> 1:16:01.480 He was dollars No, he wouldn't. 1:16:01.520 --> 1:16:04.200 He was. 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:07.360 He pushed his stake away. 1:16:09.160 --> 1:16:14.840 It was a good looking state too, but it did 1:16:14.960 --> 1:16:15.360 look good. 1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:17.439 I just can't believe that though. I don't believe she 1:16:17.520 --> 1:16:19.240 put that on him like that for him to be like. 1:16:19.160 --> 1:16:21.080 I think he had a break. 1:16:21.920 --> 1:16:25.639 Sometimes bruh, when the smoke player just ain't after you're 1:16:25.680 --> 1:16:27.640 done hitting the blunt, you know. 1:16:27.600 --> 1:16:30.400 What I'm saying, Like, sometimes you have to strip. Can't 1:16:30.439 --> 1:16:32.920 know that happens to most niggas. And the trip like 1:16:33.520 --> 1:16:37.160 I figured it out. Yeah, you know, he was the 1:16:37.160 --> 1:16:38.280 money that she brings me in. 1:16:41.040 --> 1:16:45.680 He's attracted act, he's attracted how she acts, in the 1:16:45.680 --> 1:16:48.240 money that she brings in, and he thinks that he 1:16:48.360 --> 1:16:50.160 wants to but he's still run a game on her. 1:16:50.160 --> 1:16:53.160 He's just trying to secure her on a lord intimate level. 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:58.599 Absolutely surprised the conversation with you. I'm surprised that this 1:16:58.680 --> 1:16:59.719 conversation with you. 1:17:01.600 --> 1:17:04.439 I think that there was this a shitty ass writing. 1:17:04.840 --> 1:17:08.639 I don't think that if he wanted just the money, 1:17:08.960 --> 1:17:10.960 why would he have to wipe her up. He already 1:17:11.000 --> 1:17:14.240 owns her. He was acting like he was in love 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:18.320 and he wanted to settle down. This was ass and 1:17:18.320 --> 1:17:20.880 not even as this is one of the other ones. 1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:34.479 This was this was This was Lauri's ass. That dirty 1:17:34.600 --> 1:17:41.439 swamp doo ass, dirty dirty red nick nazy ass. 1:17:44.479 --> 1:17:47.040 Ain't nothing worse than some hate flass nick. 1:17:49.600 --> 1:17:51.440 Hate. 1:17:58.520 --> 1:18:00.680 But nah yah, that's like a little he was just 1:18:00.880 --> 1:18:02.640 he was like, bro, I see a bad dy in 1:18:02.720 --> 1:18:07.160 front of me. My best stage is behind me. Given 1:18:07.280 --> 1:18:09.600 up me, like I'm ready to settle that. 1:18:11.439 --> 1:18:17.920 He was running, bro, I don't believe that. 1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:17.920 He was like because remember Cassie was like just that, 1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:20.160 like you you know, like him or whatever. And then 1:18:20.160 --> 1:18:22.360 he was saying, yeah, you know because she was something 1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:24.040 like you know, you know, made all this money, you. 1:18:24.000 --> 1:18:27.200 Got this big empire. She just just gasting his head up. 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:30.680 But the thing that stout, he was like, yeah, but 1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:34.559 for who he was like her kids, bro, So yeah 1:18:34.560 --> 1:18:34.840 he was. 1:18:34.840 --> 1:18:36.640 He was trying to knock her eyes up. He was 1:18:36.880 --> 1:18:39.080 He's sad, I want to have some Coco brown. 1:18:41.280 --> 1:18:49.640 Are with Like this is shitty, right, it is. 1:18:49.680 --> 1:18:51.320 It's just god awful, right. 1:18:52.439 --> 1:18:55.320 He is bad writing, but what it did for me 1:18:55.520 --> 1:18:58.080 is just really Like if I didn't believe that she 1:18:58.240 --> 1:19:00.200 was stuck for the rest of her life before ar 1:19:00.640 --> 1:19:04.120 like this Nigga is trying to make you his concubine 1:19:04.120 --> 1:19:05.600 for the rest of your life. Like he want to 1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:09.320 put water headed babies, and you like you are stuck, bitch. 1:19:09.640 --> 1:19:16.120 A waterhead, you head. You gotta think. 1:19:15.920 --> 1:19:18.439 About this thing when you when you get pregnant by somebody, 1:19:18.520 --> 1:19:20.680 Do I really want to push out somebody whose head is. 1:19:20.720 --> 1:19:32.559 Shape like that. 1:19:29.040 --> 1:19:29.920 The rest of life? 1:19:30.479 --> 1:19:33.200 My only question to you, what what number of that 1:19:33.320 --> 1:19:36.719 is on the list? Am I gonna let him pregnant? 1:19:38.720 --> 1:19:39.160 That top? 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:45.400 I mean? 1:19:45.479 --> 1:19:45.679 Yeah? 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:47.400 You look, I mean you want to have babies with 1:19:47.479 --> 1:19:50.240 a nice looking person and if they have a big head, 1:19:50.479 --> 1:19:52.519 like what is the Yeah, that's that's that's part of 1:19:52.520 --> 1:19:54.240 the physical Yeah, it's up there. 1:19:54.360 --> 1:20:00.280 Yes, it's part of the approval process. 1:19:57.920 --> 1:20:01.400 Is man, I've never heard that before. 1:20:01.400 --> 1:20:05.479 That that's the first time I heard that. 1:20:04.600 --> 1:20:08.839 That makes so much sense though, the first. 1:20:08.680 --> 1:20:10.559 Time I've heard it. But it's so on point, Like I. 1:20:11.040 --> 1:20:15.040 Don't know heard that's ship they we ain't never got 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:16.080 that close kid. 1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:17.759 All got kids kids. 1:20:21.479 --> 1:20:29.560 Okay we recorded can't remember that? 1:20:29.680 --> 1:20:30.439 Oh my god? 1:20:35.000 --> 1:20:36.120 Oh but yes? 1:20:36.680 --> 1:20:41.360 So uh we see Bishop take man almost club. They 1:20:41.400 --> 1:20:46.479 have the epiphany all while this Mike we got I 1:20:46.640 --> 1:20:55.600 lead dressed like Colonel Taylor, not Colonel Brown Taylor. He 1:20:55.720 --> 1:20:58.800 had to cut like over anything. Tell you have a 1:20:58.920 --> 1:21:02.120 cut like colonel saying Colonel Brad Taylor. 1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:07.879 Oh god, that's funny. He set the strip club down. 1:21:09.479 --> 1:21:11.519 In the worst way. 1:21:12.360 --> 1:21:13.600 Are we talking about the whole scene or just with 1:21:13.760 --> 1:21:14.320 him walking in? 1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:15.880 We can talk about it all. We can talk about it. 1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:21.960 I'm I'm I'm mixed. I'm mixed on this, and here's 1:21:22.000 --> 1:21:24.719 my logic. That was a bar for the dead end. 1:21:24.600 --> 1:21:28.840 Guys I got up to. 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:37.880 Oh, I liked parts of this, but I would be 1:21:38.080 --> 1:21:39.920 lying if I said it did not feel like a 1:21:39.920 --> 1:21:45.320 completely different show. I liked him walking in, I liked 1:21:45.360 --> 1:21:47.920 all the lead up. I even liked him shooting the 1:21:48.040 --> 1:21:50.120 Marshaw guy in the nuts. I liked all of that. 1:21:51.080 --> 1:21:54.759 I don't really know how much I liked the parts 1:21:54.920 --> 1:21:58.840 after that, like Alamo throwing the bull's head through the 1:21:58.960 --> 1:22:01.920 through the glass was like, this is goofy, And then 1:22:02.320 --> 1:22:05.519 you know, him walking out them having a standoff. I'm like, bro, 1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:09.240 just shoot him. What are we talking about? Are y'all serious? 1:22:09.280 --> 1:22:12.040 I'm gonna roll the bottle. And when the bottle hits 1:22:12.080 --> 1:22:13.960 the ground, that's when you draw. And I'm like, bro, 1:22:14.040 --> 1:22:17.479 if you don't shoot this dude, And and when he 1:22:17.680 --> 1:22:20.040 this was the worst acting I've ever seen from Coleman 1:22:20.080 --> 1:22:24.360 Domingo when when Alamo pulled the gun up and come, 1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:30.439 oh my, that. 1:22:30.600 --> 1:22:35.679 Was like, to Coleman Domingo's credit, his mouth is always 1:22:35.720 --> 1:22:37.360 opening all his rolls. 1:22:38.200 --> 1:22:43.479 He was just looking. It was just him looking at 1:22:43.600 --> 1:22:45.840 you're right, you know, you know, y'all are right. And 1:22:45.880 --> 1:22:48.320 Coleman Dimingo's lips have only met like three times in 1:22:48.400 --> 1:22:49.200 his entire life. 1:22:56.240 --> 1:23:14.519 What you're doing here? No to y'all. 1:23:14.600 --> 1:23:22.480 To Mike's point, man, this is good and I enjoyed it. 1:23:24.520 --> 1:23:28.880 This ship wasn't bad, man, This ship wasn't bad at all. 1:23:29.000 --> 1:23:31.160 But it just wasn't what I wanted to see on 1:23:31.200 --> 1:23:34.120 the last episode of Euphoria. Yeah, like, all of this 1:23:34.160 --> 1:23:37.519 stuff was good in a totally different setting. This could 1:23:37.560 --> 1:23:39.280 have been a wonder off. This could have been a 1:23:39.320 --> 1:23:42.519 preview or whatever the fuck did they do before the 1:23:42.560 --> 1:23:44.120 show comes on like they did with Call It the 1:23:44.160 --> 1:23:46.040 Mingo last week. All of that stuff would have worked 1:23:46.040 --> 1:23:49.120 for this, and I would have rather spent more time like, man, 1:23:49.200 --> 1:23:52.479 Mike's here with them, like really being impacted by what 1:23:52.600 --> 1:23:53.320 happened to Route. 1:23:53.520 --> 1:23:55.080 I wish that we got that as fans. 1:23:55.840 --> 1:23:57.880 However, I do think that he's trying to tell another 1:23:57.920 --> 1:24:01.240 story in this and this story being the Western and 1:24:01.360 --> 1:24:04.880 him trying to close that out in the sequence is 1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:07.800 what he really leaned into for the final act of 1:24:07.920 --> 1:24:11.120 this show, and it just took some out of it. 1:24:11.240 --> 1:24:14.120 Man Like, it just it didn't really feel like euphoria. 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:18.320 It was a good sorry Spike, No, sorry Spike, go ahead. No. 1:24:18.479 --> 1:24:21.000 I was gonna say it was a good like for 1:24:21.200 --> 1:24:24.120 like Toad's point, like how it looks, the way it 1:24:24.160 --> 1:24:26.920 played out, all of that shit was good, but it 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:29.240 just didn't make sense for what I wanted to see 1:24:29.280 --> 1:24:30.520 in the end of this episode. 1:24:31.320 --> 1:24:32.439 Yeah, I was just gonna say. 1:24:32.520 --> 1:24:36.040 Even even him throwing Maddie through the window, I was 1:24:36.080 --> 1:24:40.240 just like, bro, what what in the fuck are we watching? 1:24:40.320 --> 1:24:43.519 The only part that I liked was I think that 1:24:43.560 --> 1:24:46.679 I don't remember the young lady's name that plays Maddie, 1:24:46.840 --> 1:24:49.760 but I liked her facial acting when she shows that 1:24:49.840 --> 1:24:55.960 she's realizing that Alamo killed Rue because Coleman just like 1:24:56.040 --> 1:24:59.120 he kills everything. Even though I didn't like this stuff, 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:02.080 he killed it. When he was like who hired you? 1:25:02.120 --> 1:25:04.439 Who are you working for? He was like, bu, I 1:25:04.520 --> 1:25:07.240 just liked the way he delivered it, Like it sounded menacing, 1:25:07.240 --> 1:25:11.040 but it almost sounded like I'm I'm upset. Yeah, it 1:25:11.160 --> 1:25:15.120 sounded like I'm an angel of vengeance, like I'm here 1:25:15.120 --> 1:25:18.439 not getting away with this, You're not. It's just it 1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:20.639 was too good and I don't know that many actors 1:25:20.680 --> 1:25:24.440 that could have delivered it this well, and. 1:25:24.160 --> 1:25:27.040 Even to your point of putting on the same by 1:25:27.040 --> 1:25:30.600 the who excuse me? The different world colonel ship, like 1:25:30.640 --> 1:25:33.680 it made sense though, and how he was acting and 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:36.160 the character that he was taking on and like that 1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:38.320 wasn't a regular Ali that was. 1:25:38.360 --> 1:25:39.559 Ili to smoke crack and dude. 1:25:39.560 --> 1:25:42.280 The shadow boxing, like that was who we got going 1:25:42.360 --> 1:25:45.519 into this strip club, and that made that. 1:25:47.040 --> 1:25:48.760 Yeah, he was in the military. 1:25:48.360 --> 1:25:51.040 Member all of the Yeah, I get it, he was 1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:59.040 still a military dude, but this was still this was 1:25:59.120 --> 1:26:05.600 he a man in uniform when he's served in our country. 1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:17.799 Jump it was a little bit like, this was straight 1:26:17.880 --> 1:26:19.280 just military. 1:26:21.120 --> 1:26:23.479 Brings some sense. What did you think about this scene? Bro? 1:26:25.720 --> 1:26:26.320 I like it. 1:26:26.400 --> 1:26:27.240 I like I like it. 1:26:27.200 --> 1:26:29.519 It set us up for it because you know, he's 1:26:29.560 --> 1:26:33.559 been spending all of this time, you know, trying to 1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:37.400 save save the lives of addicts and and freedom and 1:26:37.439 --> 1:26:39.599 stuff like that. But it's at this point he's like, no, 1:26:39.760 --> 1:26:41.840 I'm done with that ship. I'm taking the matters in 1:26:41.880 --> 1:26:45.760 my home. Somebody said the angel vengeance or whatever like that, 1:26:46.040 --> 1:26:47.760 and yeah, I like it. 1:26:47.800 --> 1:26:48.120 I liked that. 1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:50.280 He was just like, no, We're going to go a 1:26:50.280 --> 1:26:53.720 different route with this because obviously, you know, all the 1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:56.200 other ways didn't work, so this was the last straw 1:26:56.280 --> 1:26:57.719 for him. 1:26:57.320 --> 1:26:58.600 And I like it. 1:26:58.640 --> 1:27:00.320 I like the set up they've been They've been playing 1:27:00.320 --> 1:27:04.160 on the whole Western thing the entire season, and while 1:27:04.200 --> 1:27:06.400 it didn't feel like euphor you we've been saying that 1:27:06.439 --> 1:27:10.280 from the jump, they stuck with what they what they've 1:27:10.320 --> 1:27:12.920 been showing us from the from the beginning, So I 1:27:12.960 --> 1:27:15.320 feel like it just doubled down on the whole theme. 1:27:15.840 --> 1:27:19.080 So in the sense of this particular season, I felt 1:27:19.080 --> 1:27:23.280 like it actually fit personally, and I did like Alamo, 1:27:23.560 --> 1:27:26.400 he felt he felt menacing. I know it did seem 1:27:26.439 --> 1:27:29.559 a little a little hokey, but I don't know, man, 1:27:29.760 --> 1:27:32.120 I think he delivered it really well. 1:27:32.400 --> 1:27:35.800 I do. I really do think he did. And I know, 1:27:36.000 --> 1:27:38.000 like the whole bottle and all that ship, but I 1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:40.439 don't know. It was believable for me. 1:27:41.439 --> 1:27:44.120 And then I like and I like how Bishop got 1:27:44.160 --> 1:27:49.559 his well, what do you call that not retribution by by. 1:27:49.439 --> 1:27:50.680 Taking the bullets out. 1:27:50.880 --> 1:27:55.680 So I think they bodied this this scene, honestly, I 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:58.000 do IFVI should. 1:27:57.720 --> 1:27:59.719 Do that, Yeah, that's that's. 1:28:04.400 --> 1:28:05.000 The trying. 1:28:05.720 --> 1:28:08.040 I think that they were trying to identify, like who 1:28:08.200 --> 1:28:10.679 in this room is a good guy and a bad guy? 1:28:10.800 --> 1:28:14.719 And Bishop has done horrible things, right, but there's always 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:18.280 been this like underlying like moral code that he has. 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:23.160 So I think ultimately he sees how Alamo treating the girls, 1:28:23.200 --> 1:28:26.599 how he's treating I'm not saying this is good. I'm 1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:28.439 just saying this is how it makes sense to me, like, 1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:33.320 because essentially Alamo cheated and was going to shoot him 1:28:33.680 --> 1:28:37.559 before the time. So I think that was them showing 1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:41.519 that Alamo is actually not a good guy and that 1:28:41.720 --> 1:28:46.840 Bishop and Coleman Domingo's character are did I like it, no, 1:28:47.560 --> 1:28:49.559 but I think that's what they were trying to say, 1:28:49.560 --> 1:28:53.280 that ultimately Bishop is has a moral compass, And it 1:28:53.400 --> 1:28:55.720 was interesting to me that even the little kid that 1:28:55.880 --> 1:28:59.519 was like Bishop has a control versus Alamo because he 1:28:59.560 --> 1:29:02.519 told him put your gun up, like, we're not doing this. 1:29:03.040 --> 1:29:04.120 So I don't know. 1:29:04.200 --> 1:29:08.120 I thought I saw how we treated him right right, right, 1:29:08.320 --> 1:29:10.080 So yeah, I think that was just them trying to 1:29:10.080 --> 1:29:14.040 show who actually was a good character versus a bad character. 1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:16.519 I just didn't like it, and I didn't like the 1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:20.439 fact that Maddie killed Rue but Ru still somehow managed 1:29:20.439 --> 1:29:22.080 to save Maddie and I ain't like it. 1:29:22.360 --> 1:29:23.400 Oh that's the part. 1:29:23.240 --> 1:29:28.600 That you sure now you did a really good jobs 1:29:28.720 --> 1:29:31.840 Like you did a really good job of explaining it. 1:29:32.439 --> 1:29:34.200 And if we were on Dead in Sports, we would 1:29:34.200 --> 1:29:37.400 say this is Bell Bond, this is Nay's. 1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:41.840 Bill Bond because you bailing them, I know, like there's 1:29:42.400 --> 1:29:46.920 because what you're saying makes sense. However, it's giving them 1:29:46.960 --> 1:29:48.720 a lot of bail in the sense of I think 1:29:48.760 --> 1:29:50.800 I already knew that Bishop was a good character just 1:29:50.840 --> 1:29:52.400 by some of the stuff that he was saying to 1:29:52.479 --> 1:29:56.360 Ruth throughout the series. I didn't I can't make myself 1:29:56.400 --> 1:29:59.760 believe that he's going to in this moment take his 1:30:00.280 --> 1:30:03.000 his bullets and make him lose in a shootout, because 1:30:03.000 --> 1:30:04.840 we already knew he was bad. You've been working for 1:30:04.920 --> 1:30:08.400 him for all these years as a bad person. Like this, 1:30:08.560 --> 1:30:11.479 just this, this just seems so easy for. 1:30:11.439 --> 1:30:18.920 A writer to change in this life it changed now. 1:30:19.000 --> 1:30:21.479 Oh wow, you want me to take you home, Mady. 1:30:21.320 --> 1:30:24.640 Like get the first Roger a long time ago, Like 1:30:24.760 --> 1:30:26.400 this is the moment that you do it. 1:30:26.479 --> 1:30:29.960 Stop Michael Rogers told you brother, Angel Avengers came through 1:30:30.000 --> 1:30:32.800 the Roomiggain and some just right there. 1:30:33.760 --> 1:30:36.400 Angel Avengers would have died had it not been for Bishop. 1:30:36.479 --> 1:30:37.719 I think this was trash. 1:30:38.200 --> 1:30:40.080 It would have made ten times more sense to me 1:30:40.200 --> 1:30:43.040 if that little kid did it, because at least he 1:30:43.160 --> 1:30:45.960 had a reason, and we didn't see him do anything 1:30:46.200 --> 1:30:50.320 bad throughout the show. The fact that Bishop just chopped 1:30:50.320 --> 1:30:53.200 some dude up a couple episodes ago, the fact that 1:30:53.240 --> 1:30:56.280 he didn't really fuck with Rue because he was trying 1:30:56.320 --> 1:30:58.799 to imply to Alamo to get rid of Rue. 1:30:59.120 --> 1:31:00.719 The only the only. 1:31:00.600 --> 1:31:03.760 Person that he defended was Maddie. So I thought they 1:31:03.800 --> 1:31:06.040 were trying to make it seem like he had feelings 1:31:06.080 --> 1:31:09.080 for Maddie, So I was like, what are they doing? 1:31:09.479 --> 1:31:11.759 You got Alimo falling in love with Maddie. 1:31:11.840 --> 1:31:14.320 Now you got Bishop falling in love with Maddie to 1:31:14.320 --> 1:31:16.120 the point where he kills Alimo. 1:31:17.040 --> 1:31:19.600 This is ass. 1:31:20.680 --> 1:31:23.320 This would have only been good, Nick is if. 1:31:25.080 --> 1:31:28.000 If after the end of all of this, we see 1:31:28.040 --> 1:31:31.000 that guy that he had himed up in that room 1:31:31.000 --> 1:31:33.360 that he was gonna chop up, he still alive. If 1:31:33.400 --> 1:31:35.960 they showed him still alive, and they showed him walking 1:31:36.000 --> 1:31:39.200 away or going into the burger king or something, then 1:31:39.240 --> 1:31:42.479 I would have been like, Okay, I accepted he changed 1:31:42.479 --> 1:31:45.320 his tune and he wasn't really killing these folks. 1:31:45.560 --> 1:31:47.439 But no, Bishop was a bad dude. 1:31:47.479 --> 1:31:51.080 He threatened to kill Ruth's mother, but now he's taking 1:31:51.080 --> 1:31:54.320 the bullets at a dude's gun. Was this was Sam 1:31:54.400 --> 1:31:56.599 Levison just being like, you know what, fuck it I'm 1:31:56.640 --> 1:31:59.240 gonna do. I'm gonna do a line real quick, and 1:31:59.240 --> 1:32:01.880 I'm just gonna write some bullshit. Y'all just gonna accept it. 1:32:02.120 --> 1:32:05.080 That's what I only I only can't. I only disagree 1:32:05.080 --> 1:32:07.240 with them for this one point. We wouldn't have got 1:32:07.280 --> 1:32:11.559 the scene where at once he finds out the bullets there. 1:32:14.600 --> 1:32:19.880 I see you could have said that to the kid though. 1:32:21.720 --> 1:32:27.960 He Mike rewarded that scene about hey, well you know 1:32:28.120 --> 1:32:29.040 you when you. 1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:31.600 Know you lost a little sometimes you just got to 1:32:31.640 --> 1:32:33.519 be like, all right, I at least get this out. 1:32:36.320 --> 1:32:41.240 Let me say this for you. 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:47.240 Gutts have definitely articulated more issues I've had with this 1:32:47.360 --> 1:32:52.840 episode and this This was definitely, uh a huge part 1:32:52.840 --> 1:32:56.760 of it as well. All this ship was stupid. There 1:32:56.800 --> 1:32:58.720 are only a couple of things I like. I like 1:32:58.800 --> 1:33:01.280 when he did you was his third shot to make 1:33:01.320 --> 1:33:05.200 sure he was done. He was dead, So that that 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:07.679 was that was That was pretty cool. 1:33:08.120 --> 1:33:08.320 Uh. 1:33:08.880 --> 1:33:12.320 Him throwing that damn bullhead at him was fucking hilarious 1:33:12.320 --> 1:33:20.040 because Coleman had no fucking idea with what that was from. 1:33:20.160 --> 1:33:23.040 That was a genuine like, oh ship, what. 1:33:26.840 --> 1:33:33.560 He felt authectically that could be even the thing. 1:33:34.080 --> 1:33:37.320 But you know, it's just he walked in the club, 1:33:38.240 --> 1:33:41.880 he Barrick basically locked the club doors, nobody could get 1:33:41.920 --> 1:33:45.880 in or out, and he sat down for a while, 1:33:47.040 --> 1:33:49.280 and at no point did anybody tried to go in 1:33:49.360 --> 1:33:51.320 and out of the club to notice. The motherfucker was like, 1:33:53.120 --> 1:33:55.599 but I'm sorry, it just It just didn't make any sense, 1:33:56.600 --> 1:33:59.559 you know, because it's not like he just walked then 1:33:59.600 --> 1:34:00.719 walked aroun I started shooting. 1:34:00.760 --> 1:34:01.360 He sat down. 1:34:01.920 --> 1:34:04.960 Yeah, he waited for a shot to finish doing what 1:34:05.040 --> 1:34:07.080 he's doing, to come up there and sit with him, 1:34:07.080 --> 1:34:08.639 and everybody was just in there, just chilling. 1:34:09.000 --> 1:34:13.200 He he did Marshaan dirty in this motherfucker. 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:17.400 He told a lot, bro, you can't. You can't, Mike. 1:34:17.680 --> 1:34:19.960 I know you'all gonn feel going again. One of my 1:34:20.000 --> 1:34:20.639 worst fears. 1:34:20.680 --> 1:34:20.800 Bro. 1:34:21.280 --> 1:34:24.839 Going from almost getting cheeks to getting your dick shine 1:34:25.880 --> 1:34:27.960 in twenty minutes is insane. 1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:28.960 Should have finished. 1:34:29.040 --> 1:34:30.439 That's not how he thought he was going to get 1:34:30.439 --> 1:34:33.080 his dick well, damn. 1:34:35.000 --> 1:34:37.479 Yeah, that's not how he thought he was gonna bust today. 1:34:39.720 --> 1:34:45.080 Damn y'all are adios man. 1:34:46.680 --> 1:34:50.200 Rod had to y'all remember because Rod got a couple 1:34:50.240 --> 1:34:52.400 two He's like, you guys don't get his nut off, 1:34:52.400 --> 1:34:53.800 but he got his blown off. 1:34:54.479 --> 1:35:01.240 He tea yeah, yeah. 1:35:02.760 --> 1:35:05.240 It was funny because like, you'll die from that. He 1:35:05.760 --> 1:35:12.680 just made himself die. 1:35:13.560 --> 1:35:17.840 Remember when that little boy got his you know, he said, hey, 1:35:17.840 --> 1:35:21.439 you lose that, you may as well be dead. Marshal, 1:35:22.240 --> 1:35:26.320 He's like Jesus I'm trying to go see. 1:35:36.120 --> 1:35:39.400 But yeah, but I will say something like, okay, well 1:35:39.439 --> 1:35:42.880 when when he heard the bullets the gun clicking, you know, 1:35:43.280 --> 1:35:45.240 I guess it was honorable that he left the bottle 1:35:45.320 --> 1:35:47.320 hit the ground before he shot, you know, all right, 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:49.240 because word is bond. I guess it was too old. 1:35:49.680 --> 1:35:52.559 It's changing, you know, sayings they used to have back 1:35:52.560 --> 1:35:55.360 in the day. But I think the biggest thing was 1:35:55.560 --> 1:35:58.160 Bishop doing what he did for no, no damn reason. 1:35:58.560 --> 1:36:02.280 And I think them trying to use the dog as 1:36:02.320 --> 1:36:05.120 a means to show that he may be a different 1:36:05.160 --> 1:36:09.840 person to get this poodle or whatever it was, just, 1:36:10.080 --> 1:36:12.120 you know, we have to really add a lot of 1:36:12.200 --> 1:36:15.400 shit to make him doing what he did make sense. 1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:20.200 Throughout this whole eight episodes seven, we have not seen 1:36:20.760 --> 1:36:25.439 Bishop disagree with anything Alamo done all season to the 1:36:25.439 --> 1:36:27.439 point where he would turn on him, and that is 1:36:27.479 --> 1:36:29.560 the biggest, biggest issue. The only thing he said was 1:36:29.600 --> 1:36:31.800 I like to surprise people. Well he surprised the fuck 1:36:31.840 --> 1:36:32.439 out of Alamo. 1:36:35.120 --> 1:36:37.720 Hey, best line Alimo had all season. 1:36:41.479 --> 1:36:42.599 What you say about a dog? 1:36:44.160 --> 1:36:45.400 How he did Eddie? 1:36:46.120 --> 1:36:49.479 I think anybody's expendable, like I think he thought, if 1:36:49.520 --> 1:36:51.400 I do something wrong, he'll probably kill me too. 1:36:53.120 --> 1:36:54.880 But she wasn't gonna do anything wrong though. 1:36:55.080 --> 1:36:57.559 She was always what I'm saying, but one false moves. 1:36:57.640 --> 1:36:59.639 I mean, Edie didn't think he did anything wrong either. 1:37:00.360 --> 1:37:08.040 He didn't think about to die. He did though. The job, 1:37:08.800 --> 1:37:10.840 that's the job. That's not the job. 1:37:11.160 --> 1:37:12.240 That's the job. 1:37:12.560 --> 1:37:15.640 If I'm if I'm working as a manager in the 1:37:15.640 --> 1:37:17.200 strip club, the job is to die. 1:37:17.360 --> 1:37:25.240 The job not a magic city. But if you work 1:37:25.240 --> 1:37:25.960 if an Alamo. 1:37:26.080 --> 1:37:28.720 Absolutely, I got these drugs running through here, all this 1:37:28.840 --> 1:37:29.880 illegal ship is going on. 1:37:29.960 --> 1:37:31.880 You only get that position if you understand it. 1:37:31.960 --> 1:37:32.599 That's the job. 1:37:32.920 --> 1:37:35.240 So part of the job is when that ship happening, 1:37:35.280 --> 1:37:37.960 you get robbed. You can't say anything. And the thing 1:37:38.080 --> 1:37:39.480 is they made it. 1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:46.519 They made it seem like that he did this for Maddie, right, right, 1:37:46.960 --> 1:37:48.679 that's the problem. 1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:52.720 So no, and why why did he do it for Maddie? Right? 1:37:53.160 --> 1:37:55.519 But when that dude to put his dick up against 1:37:55.560 --> 1:38:01.040 the wall, bro, you don't think he did it. 1:38:03.400 --> 1:38:07.280 I don't think it was. I think it was a 1:38:07.320 --> 1:38:09.280 combination of things. 1:38:10.680 --> 1:38:14.360 But we didn't see what those things were. Biggest problem. 1:38:14.960 --> 1:38:18.320 The only thing, the only thing that we seen was 1:38:18.360 --> 1:38:20.600 Maddie and did him asking her, oh, you want to 1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:21.160 ride home? 1:38:22.120 --> 1:38:23.160 Right right? 1:38:23.200 --> 1:38:25.599 And then kitty big booty ass come running there, jumping. 1:38:25.640 --> 1:38:26.960 Out there out. 1:38:28.400 --> 1:38:30.800 I feel like he always had a soft spot for ruthe. 1:38:31.240 --> 1:38:35.000 I feel like he always told her little little little things, 1:38:35.680 --> 1:38:38.559 you know, here and there, like don't do this, do that. 1:38:38.680 --> 1:38:40.200 You know what I'm saying, make sure you do this, 1:38:40.320 --> 1:38:42.400 make sure you don't do that. Like I feel like 1:38:42.439 --> 1:38:45.720 he always told told her like, look, if you do this, 1:38:45.760 --> 1:38:46.760 you're gonna suck you up. 1:38:47.240 --> 1:38:50.240 And your mom, right. 1:38:51.520 --> 1:38:54.000 But I don't think he was gonna actually kill her 1:38:54.000 --> 1:38:55.880 mom ship. 1:38:55.920 --> 1:38:57.719 If AM asked him to do it, he was gonna 1:38:57.720 --> 1:38:58.080 do it. 1:38:58.160 --> 1:38:58.639 That's right. 1:38:59.880 --> 1:39:01.320 I think that was a scare tactic. 1:39:04.000 --> 1:39:11.639 They were scared of the death. Damn wow, who said that? 1:39:11.960 --> 1:39:16.679 I looked corny ass joke. 1:39:19.160 --> 1:39:22.639 I wish I had thought of it, but it was. 1:39:22.880 --> 1:39:25.040 Very entertaining but also unbelievable. 1:39:26.760 --> 1:39:28.800 But I really did like how this episode ended with 1:39:29.920 --> 1:39:32.439 a leg going to see what was about to say, 1:39:32.520 --> 1:39:35.439 lou not go ahead, I was gonna say, I le 1:39:35.640 --> 1:39:37.400 going to see the place that we started off the 1:39:37.439 --> 1:39:39.880 season where Ruth felt like she was like, this is 1:39:39.920 --> 1:39:43.800 the most peaceful, whatever the fuck you know, family, or 1:39:43.960 --> 1:39:46.439 just feeling I've ever had being around these people, and 1:39:46.479 --> 1:39:48.240 he went to go see them and kind of again, 1:39:48.280 --> 1:39:50.479 like y'all talked about, make a full circle moment and 1:39:50.520 --> 1:39:53.320 we get to see force goes through, you know, sit 1:39:53.360 --> 1:39:54.160 at the end of the table. 1:39:58.640 --> 1:39:59.479 You want to think that. 1:40:01.720 --> 1:40:06.320 I will go on record of saying I really really 1:40:06.600 --> 1:40:10.160 liked this scene. I thought this ship was great. I thought, 1:40:10.360 --> 1:40:15.160 I thought Ali going and finding this this fucking weird, 1:40:15.360 --> 1:40:18.519 too good to be true, white family and having a 1:40:18.560 --> 1:40:21.920 seat at their table and then looking down and seeing 1:40:22.040 --> 1:40:24.680 ru at the other end again, I think this is 1:40:24.760 --> 1:40:28.000 This is when I recognized the whole burning Bush thing. 1:40:28.040 --> 1:40:30.479 I was like, oh, they're bringing this all the way 1:40:30.520 --> 1:40:33.439 full circle because she's sitting at the head of the table, 1:40:33.479 --> 1:40:35.000 almost like some Last Supper shit. 1:40:35.320 --> 1:40:38.160 I thought this was great. I didn't really care for 1:40:38.160 --> 1:40:38.840 the whole. 1:40:40.160 --> 1:40:41.599 I don't know if I want to say she's Jesus, 1:40:41.680 --> 1:40:43.680 I don't want to, you know, but I mean, I 1:40:43.720 --> 1:40:45.600 definitely think they were making some kind of reference to 1:40:45.600 --> 1:40:47.720 the Last Supper because she was kind of you can't 1:40:47.720 --> 1:40:50.920 see my arms, but she was kind of sitting like this, 1:40:52.360 --> 1:40:56.120 and then she's said, well, and then they kind of 1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:57.680 the whole God bless us all shit. 1:40:57.760 --> 1:41:00.439 I thought that was a low corny but no, yeah, man, 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:02.280 I think I think this was a great way to 1:41:02.360 --> 1:41:05.000 end this this episode. I really liked all of this 1:41:05.200 --> 1:41:07.519 and the one girl who we thought was gonna come back, 1:41:07.640 --> 1:41:10.160 even though she didn't really, but it was almost like 1:41:10.200 --> 1:41:12.439 they were implying that she could kind of see rue too. 1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:18.559 I like this man's corny. That was corny. 1:41:20.240 --> 1:41:23.120 It's like that was what that was the first episode 1:41:23.160 --> 1:41:25.200 she said it was the same seat she was sitting in. 1:41:26.360 --> 1:41:28.880 You know, I get it, but you know it's all right, cool, 1:41:29.200 --> 1:41:30.479 I'm with you this point right. 1:41:32.520 --> 1:41:34.519 I can't get this ship out of here. 1:41:34.560 --> 1:41:34.680 Bro. 1:41:36.680 --> 1:41:40.280 This man like this didn't mean this ship was like 1:41:40.320 --> 1:41:43.400 what like, damn, get all of this out of here. 1:41:43.960 --> 1:41:48.439 And lying motherfuckers. Marlin who Marlin with me? That was 1:41:48.479 --> 1:41:50.639 his name, that was the name. 1:41:51.000 --> 1:41:54.400 Yes, he changed his name, he became Muslim. I was 1:41:54.439 --> 1:41:57.519 gonna say, I leave that like a Muslim transfer day. 1:41:57.840 --> 1:42:04.880 You man, what you mean yeah that Christians? Yes? 1:42:05.640 --> 1:42:12.200 Wow, he lie like did so. I thought the niggas 1:42:12.200 --> 1:42:13.240 just up and line. 1:42:18.439 --> 1:42:21.320 Was like, look, some motherfuckers, I'm just gonna I'm trying 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:23.559 to get away y'all got a spot for me up here, 1:42:24.000 --> 1:42:28.160 up here, which I got dog the horse, not horse, 1:42:28.200 --> 1:42:31.800 but the counter had a baby and ship like yeah, 1:42:31.800 --> 1:42:32.559 I didn't connect that. 1:42:32.680 --> 1:42:35.080 Hell, I didn't connect that part. 1:42:35.120 --> 1:42:39.120 It was a miracle. Oh oh. 1:42:40.640 --> 1:42:45.519 That's fine, that's fine. Smart motherfuckers. But I didn't think 1:42:45.520 --> 1:42:48.800 about it like that. But that's fine. Yeah that works. 1:42:49.520 --> 1:42:51.400 What did you never mind? It don't even matter. 1:42:51.760 --> 1:42:53.599 What did what? 1:42:53.600 --> 1:42:55.360 What the hell did they want? They really? 1:42:55.479 --> 1:42:55.559 Like? 1:42:55.680 --> 1:42:56.559 What did y'all want? 1:42:57.320 --> 1:43:01.080 I just didn't want to end at this point. 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:02.559 I didn't want it to be over. 1:43:02.800 --> 1:43:06.519 That's all. I just make it be over. I ain't 1:43:06.560 --> 1:43:07.519 need none of this stuff. 1:43:07.520 --> 1:43:10.519 I was over. He could have when when Rue died. 1:43:10.320 --> 1:43:18.400 And while we're still doing yeah, well we're. 1:43:18.200 --> 1:43:23.479 Still doing here, all this out of here God, So 1:43:23.680 --> 1:43:25.720 as he found her body, he should have made a 1:43:25.760 --> 1:43:29.280 couple of phone calls, zoom in on his face, cut. 1:43:29.080 --> 1:43:32.080 Scene, wrap out, brosne y'all. 1:43:33.840 --> 1:43:37.360 If it ended, yeah, yeah, that. 1:43:37.439 --> 1:43:42.400 Was my hour and seven minutes of this damn show. 1:43:43.520 --> 1:43:44.280 Did nothing. 1:43:44.840 --> 1:43:50.280 It was all the handling business and photo jewels and 1:43:50.320 --> 1:43:53.280 all that, but I'm saying it's not the entire thing home. 1:43:54.080 --> 1:43:55.719 It brought everything home. 1:43:55.880 --> 1:43:56.519 The whole. 1:43:57.520 --> 1:43:59.360 It did the whole. 1:43:59.240 --> 1:44:03.720 Reason of Rue, converting all of the burning bush shit, 1:44:03.880 --> 1:44:07.320 this whole savior complex that Rue all of a sudden had, 1:44:07.680 --> 1:44:10.400 and the fact that she had to die for everybody 1:44:10.400 --> 1:44:11.200 else to be free. 1:44:11.560 --> 1:44:12.960 It brought everything home. 1:44:13.040 --> 1:44:14.800 Y'all might not have liked it, and I'm not trying 1:44:14.800 --> 1:44:17.120 to convince y'all to like it, but y'all can't say 1:44:17.120 --> 1:44:20.439 it didn't like complete the story or complete the whole 1:44:20.560 --> 1:44:22.599 narrative that they were trying to push. 1:44:22.960 --> 1:44:25.439 The story was complete when she rolled over on the couch. 1:44:26.640 --> 1:44:27.639 The story was done. 1:44:28.360 --> 1:44:33.920 The story was complete. 1:44:34.160 --> 1:44:37.240 She was murdered, and her friends think she od like 1:44:37.800 --> 1:44:39.519 the whole time. They don't even know she was gonna 1:44:39.520 --> 1:44:39.960 be killed. 1:44:40.880 --> 1:44:43.439 I mean, it's it's but you know now that that 1:44:44.600 --> 1:44:47.280 that came in and shut up the club. 1:44:48.640 --> 1:44:49.479 Wow, that. 1:44:51.720 --> 1:45:01.040 Sound crazy. Maddy knows for sure, Matt, He's gonna tell people. 1:45:01.320 --> 1:45:03.000 Maddy's definitely gonna tell people. 1:45:04.760 --> 1:45:06.000 Cassie's not gonna care. 1:45:07.240 --> 1:45:08.479 Cassie ain't even gonna get it. 1:45:08.600 --> 1:45:11.280 I think at some point they'll they'll get to Jules. 1:45:11.320 --> 1:45:13.160 I think I think the word will get out that, 1:45:13.240 --> 1:45:13.960 like Ruth. 1:45:13.800 --> 1:45:18.519 Didn't just passed away, she she was murdered. They killed her. 1:45:21.080 --> 1:45:23.280 Anybody gonna tell it, It's gonna be Maddien because Maddy 1:45:23.320 --> 1:45:23.839 be telling. 1:45:23.640 --> 1:45:27.080 Me, Mattie telling everybody. Bro, all you got to do 1:45:27.160 --> 1:45:29.200 is tell Lexi le gonna make a show about it. 1:45:30.000 --> 1:45:32.360 Let me ask this question, right, So, now that Maddie 1:45:32.360 --> 1:45:38.000 knows Maddie's out of her situation with with Alamo, do 1:45:38.080 --> 1:45:39.799 her and Cassie maintain a friendship. 1:45:43.080 --> 1:45:46.240 That's why Kitty loved to go with her to do 1:45:46.280 --> 1:45:47.920 the whole only man ship. 1:45:49.280 --> 1:45:52.439 Yeah, business thing. I don't think it will be friends 1:45:52.479 --> 1:45:53.240 like that. 1:45:53.920 --> 1:45:56.280 Because I'm like, Cassie is still in debt from Nate's that. 1:45:56.600 --> 1:45:58.839 I don't understand why they didn't just tell that mansion. 1:45:58.880 --> 1:46:02.880 But whatever, as he still has dad from Nate. So 1:46:03.000 --> 1:46:06.080 she said she said. 1:46:05.800 --> 1:46:08.080 An episode she did. 1:46:08.680 --> 1:46:12.760 She was like, she said it, I owe more than 1:46:12.760 --> 1:46:14.640 it's worse type ship, so it don't even matter as 1:46:14.680 --> 1:46:15.280 well keep them mom. 1:46:16.000 --> 1:46:18.080 Yeah, she can use the place to make money with 1:46:18.120 --> 1:46:19.960 the girls, so it makes sense to me. 1:46:21.479 --> 1:46:25.160 Yeah, it's an ugly ass place though, like a god 1:46:25.240 --> 1:46:26.400 damn gingerbread house. 1:46:26.680 --> 1:46:28.839 Yeah it does look crazy, y'all. 1:46:28.640 --> 1:46:31.200 Didn't because it was the scene when she put it 1:46:31.200 --> 1:46:33.479 out and Cassie was in this Barbie house. 1:46:33.560 --> 1:46:35.720 Y'all didn't We didn't say anything about it. Y'all don't 1:46:35.720 --> 1:46:36.280 give a fuck it. 1:46:37.160 --> 1:46:37.639 I don't care. 1:46:37.720 --> 1:46:43.760 Yeah, yeah, just just in case anybody asked, no talk 1:46:43.800 --> 1:46:44.479 about this scene. 1:46:44.479 --> 1:46:46.400 But that's a reason why, for a reason it was. 1:46:46.479 --> 1:46:48.840 It was it was Cony. You read the red. 1:46:50.880 --> 1:46:52.799 I just wanted to acknowledge it because it was supposed 1:46:52.800 --> 1:46:53.599 to be a big moment. 1:46:53.680 --> 1:46:53.920 Nick. 1:46:54.800 --> 1:46:56.800 They lingered for a minute, they did. 1:46:58.320 --> 1:47:00.920 Yeah, I ain't even fuck up any other thoughts on 1:47:00.960 --> 1:47:03.479 this episode, the last This is the last we ever 1:47:03.520 --> 1:47:05.679 gonna talk about you for We've been on a long 1:47:05.720 --> 1:47:06.559 journey with this show. 1:47:08.560 --> 1:47:10.679 I mean, I think this show's good. 1:47:10.680 --> 1:47:13.519 It obviously got these actors to a really good point 1:47:13.600 --> 1:47:16.640 because how good the show was. Unfortunately, you know what 1:47:16.640 --> 1:47:19.439 I'm saying, they weren't able to dedicate that same amount 1:47:19.439 --> 1:47:22.400 of time to the show. And obviously the stuff that 1:47:22.439 --> 1:47:26.800 happened with Sam Lewiston, unfortunately, I think kind of kind 1:47:26.800 --> 1:47:30.280 of messed up the last runner this or whatever. 1:47:30.320 --> 1:47:32.799 But I think, ultimately, man, I think it's still you know, solid, 1:47:32.840 --> 1:47:33.320 it could have been. 1:47:33.439 --> 1:47:36.479 Obviously, it could have been better if it still felt 1:47:36.520 --> 1:47:37.960 like that the people were still. 1:47:37.800 --> 1:47:39.920 Around that made the show what it was. 1:47:40.479 --> 1:47:42.000 But I think, you know, like I said in the 1:47:42.000 --> 1:47:43.439 beginning of the show man, I think they did the 1:47:43.439 --> 1:47:45.920 best they could to wrap this thing up. And that's 1:47:45.920 --> 1:47:47.160 where I'm still at with it. 1:47:51.320 --> 1:47:56.639 Strong opening, pitch poor closing. There were some great things 1:47:56.640 --> 1:47:57.799 that was done with this series. 1:47:58.160 --> 1:48:00.000 If somebody asked me should I watch it, would definite 1:48:00.160 --> 1:48:03.200 tell them yes, because I don't think how they ended 1:48:03.240 --> 1:48:07.439 it serves to how good the good moments of those 1:48:07.439 --> 1:48:09.599 first two seasons were. Like I put that up there 1:48:09.600 --> 1:48:12.519 with some of the best TV that you're saying. With 1:48:12.680 --> 1:48:15.080 that being said, I think it ended right on time. 1:48:15.120 --> 1:48:17.000 I did not need another season of this. As you 1:48:17.000 --> 1:48:19.640 can tell about this last episode, they're really grasping the 1:48:19.640 --> 1:48:22.479 straws for say things to do. So I'm glad they 1:48:22.520 --> 1:48:25.639 did ended here and all of my it's a good show. 1:48:25.720 --> 1:48:27.599 Like I would recommend it to people. If someone asked 1:48:27.600 --> 1:48:29.120 me what should you Should I watch you? 1:48:29.200 --> 1:48:36.320 For you? I would definitely tell them yes, Okay, I'll go. 1:48:36.400 --> 1:48:39.559 I guess I agree with Spike. I think that that 1:48:39.640 --> 1:48:42.400 it was it was still and Rod. I guess it 1:48:42.479 --> 1:48:44.920 was a really good show. I think all in all 1:48:45.000 --> 1:48:47.000 that I don't think they shit the bed for the ending. 1:48:47.479 --> 1:48:49.640 I think the ending worked. It could have been a 1:48:49.720 --> 1:48:52.120 lot better. I didn't really need a whole season of 1:48:52.200 --> 1:48:56.040 Western motifs for a show like this, but it's what 1:48:56.160 --> 1:49:00.559 I got. And you know, for a really uneven season, 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:03.240 I think that they closed the final episode out good 1:49:03.320 --> 1:49:05.320 enough for me to walk away saying, yes, you should 1:49:05.320 --> 1:49:09.120 watch Euphoria. Just be aware that the first two seasons 1:49:09.240 --> 1:49:14.479 are great and the third season is very uneven. So 1:49:15.160 --> 1:49:17.240 I think all in all, Sam Levinson did a good job. 1:49:17.560 --> 1:49:19.960 He needs to go ahead and relish this money because 1:49:20.000 --> 1:49:21.680 he's probably not going to get another job after this. 1:49:22.600 --> 1:49:25.599 But uh, yeah, I think I think they did. 1:49:25.600 --> 1:49:29.720 They did good enough. Yeah, he's he's done, But you know, 1:49:29.760 --> 1:49:30.679 it was a moment in time. 1:49:30.760 --> 1:49:33.680 I think, you know, for a lot of people, they 1:49:33.720 --> 1:49:36.000 took the world by storm. You know, we're gonna see 1:49:36.000 --> 1:49:38.640 a lot of actors from this show go on and 1:49:38.640 --> 1:49:40.880 and a lot of them are already doing really good things, 1:49:40.920 --> 1:49:45.599 and he'll continue to do it. So I think in 1:49:45.680 --> 1:49:51.400 terms of a complete one through three seasons, for the 1:49:51.400 --> 1:49:54.440 most part, you got a beginning. 1:49:54.040 --> 1:49:57.920 Middle, and an end. You know, and uh, whether. 1:49:57.640 --> 1:50:00.960 You like it or not, at the end of the day, 1:50:01.000 --> 1:50:04.160 I think there's a conclusion to the story, and you know, 1:50:04.240 --> 1:50:06.639 I think that's all you can hope for, and we're 1:50:06.680 --> 1:50:09.840 not left with, you know, a very ambiguous ending. 1:50:09.920 --> 1:50:12.920 I think it's it's good enough. 1:50:13.439 --> 1:50:17.800 So so yeah, yeah, we're done. What a what a 1:50:18.160 --> 1:50:20.160 last couple of what a ride for the last couple 1:50:20.200 --> 1:50:20.519 of years? 1:50:20.600 --> 1:50:22.679 Huh? Yeah? Yeah. 1:50:22.720 --> 1:50:25.200 And also it's still one of the best looking shows 1:50:25.280 --> 1:50:29.040 that I've seen on TV. They're cinematographers. Even though I 1:50:29.040 --> 1:50:31.960 didn't like the first couple of episode cinematography wise, they 1:50:32.280 --> 1:50:35.559 came together for this last half. Even the episodes I 1:50:35.560 --> 1:50:37.360 didn't like towards the last half of the season, I 1:50:37.400 --> 1:50:39.120 still think they looked really good. 1:50:40.760 --> 1:50:41.679 May what's your thoughts? 1:50:42.840 --> 1:50:45.280 No, I can court with what was just about what 1:50:45.320 --> 1:50:47.599 everybody said. I think ultimately this has been a really 1:50:47.640 --> 1:50:50.679 good show. I think it was a really interesting take 1:50:50.800 --> 1:50:55.360 on addiction. I think that if you are watching the 1:50:55.520 --> 1:50:58.080 show for any of the other reasons, I think going 1:50:58.120 --> 1:50:59.760 into the show, I would say, this is a really 1:50:59.760 --> 1:51:01.720 interest tail about addiction. 1:51:01.840 --> 1:51:03.720 And the impacts of it. 1:51:03.920 --> 1:51:06.639 And I think that because I started to go back 1:51:06.680 --> 1:51:09.960 and rewatch season one in preparation for this, I think 1:51:09.960 --> 1:51:12.240 I rewatched all of it. Yeah, I caught up in 1:51:12.320 --> 1:51:16.439 preparation for this, and the show was really It. 1:51:16.479 --> 1:51:18.400 Was a lot in the beginning, but. 1:51:18.560 --> 1:51:23.599 I think that the impact pays off and the shock 1:51:23.720 --> 1:51:25.400 value pays off when you. 1:51:25.400 --> 1:51:27.400 Realize what this show is trying to showcase. 1:51:27.560 --> 1:51:29.439 And I think I agree. 1:51:29.439 --> 1:51:32.320 Sam Levinson did a really good job with this particular story, 1:51:33.120 --> 1:51:37.519 and the performances were great, and I would suggest it 1:51:37.560 --> 1:51:38.160 to somebody else. 1:51:38.200 --> 1:51:40.439 Again, I wish we could have tied it up a 1:51:40.520 --> 1:51:44.320 little nicer, but ultimately it was a solid three seasons 1:51:44.320 --> 1:51:44.679 of TV. 1:51:47.479 --> 1:51:50.639 Yeah, I think this is the last great teen drama 1:51:51.240 --> 1:51:52.000 that we had. 1:51:52.080 --> 1:51:54.080 I think we all grew up in the nineties early 1:51:54.080 --> 1:51:56.680 two thousands and we've seen some shit that kind of 1:51:56.760 --> 1:51:59.800 you was talked about around the country, and I think 1:51:59.800 --> 1:52:02.439 this the last show of that. That's like mainstream Lise. 1:52:02.479 --> 1:52:04.920 Everybody got their little nitch shows. But I think this 1:52:05.000 --> 1:52:09.000 is the end of an era with that. And like 1:52:09.040 --> 1:52:12.800 you said, can these these A listers topping up and 1:52:12.840 --> 1:52:16.320 down on this roster? So we'll see them in different shows, 1:52:16.640 --> 1:52:19.920 But I think this this series ended off well. Like 1:52:19.960 --> 1:52:21.280 you said, Loutle, this may be. 1:52:22.520 --> 1:52:24.599 Top fifteen HBO show all time. 1:52:25.280 --> 1:52:30.519 Still, in my opinion, you can make the list top twenty, 1:52:30.560 --> 1:52:33.479 give me top twenty, give me top twenty twenty five. Five, 1:52:33.520 --> 1:52:37.360 Oh you're tripping spider. No, that's top twenty twenty five. 1:52:38.240 --> 1:52:44.479 You can't even yeah for real? Yeah, top ten would day? 1:52:46.920 --> 1:52:49.639 This show changed ship. This show made other shows want 1:52:49.680 --> 1:52:52.240 to step up their game as far as how they did, 1:52:52.320 --> 1:52:53.160 like Filmmaker. 1:52:53.840 --> 1:52:57.120 But see, Mike, you ain't. You haven't watched Industry, right, 1:52:57.520 --> 1:52:57.960 I have not. 1:52:58.040 --> 1:53:00.880 It's on my list, you see, like a better than 1:53:00.920 --> 1:53:03.439 this though, and Industry was influenced by this show? 1:53:03.800 --> 1:53:07.240 Oh yeah, yeah it was. What does that mean? It's 1:53:07.280 --> 1:53:13.280 still better than Yeah, it's just. 1:53:13.160 --> 1:53:16.000 Still better than this. And I ain't saying that, like 1:53:16.040 --> 1:53:17.519 because Euphoria is really good. 1:53:17.600 --> 1:53:18.200 I ain't saying that. 1:53:18.280 --> 1:53:20.840 It's not one of those shows that should have be 1:53:20.880 --> 1:53:21.639 had in the conversation. 1:53:21.720 --> 1:53:25.240 If somebody says Hayes top ten, Hayes top fifteen, top twenty, 1:53:25.439 --> 1:53:27.760 I'm not going to scarf at them. I would have 1:53:27.800 --> 1:53:30.320 the conversation with them and start naming the HBO shows 1:53:30.479 --> 1:53:32.240 that I'm familiar with to say. 1:53:32.400 --> 1:53:33.559 Do you think it's better than this? 1:53:33.800 --> 1:53:33.840 You? 1:53:34.200 --> 1:53:35.960 Like, you can't say that though? You can't say that 1:53:36.000 --> 1:53:38.280 because Industry it hasn't even ended. It's going to end 1:53:38.320 --> 1:53:40.600 this final season, so you're not get everything into it. 1:53:40.840 --> 1:53:42.840 I'm not saying the industry is better than this. I'm 1:53:42.840 --> 1:53:45.160 saying the industry is in the conversation with this and 1:53:45.160 --> 1:53:48.320 it ain't even done yet, so I won't even know 1:53:48.479 --> 1:53:49.280 what it's. 1:53:49.160 --> 1:53:50.960 Going to do on their land. 1:53:53.960 --> 1:54:01.719 Just two minutes. Industry is better. I'm not saying industries best. 1:54:02.000 --> 1:54:07.599 Sound like this episode, Spike. The only thing I'm. 1:54:07.520 --> 1:54:09.400 Trying to say is if you're saying that this is 1:54:09.400 --> 1:54:11.799 the top ten HBO show and you haven't seen Industry, 1:54:12.840 --> 1:54:14.360 I don't think that that's. 1:54:14.280 --> 1:54:19.600 It's interesting to you telling me industry is not. No, 1:54:19.640 --> 1:54:23.400 I'm thinking I think it's better than Euphoria. Industry. 1:54:25.240 --> 1:54:27.679 Yes, but it hasn't ended yet, so if they blow 1:54:27.720 --> 1:54:29.680 the ending, I may be able to take that back 1:54:29.720 --> 1:54:30.759 and reneed that statement. 1:54:30.960 --> 1:54:33.680 However, right now, industry is better than you for I'm. 1:54:33.520 --> 1:54:37.960 Gonna watchst like he sent them to high standards, Bro, 1:54:38.080 --> 1:54:41.840 just doing I want you to recommendations. You're not better 1:54:41.880 --> 1:54:44.440 than you for you. I'm not saying that. I'm not 1:54:44.480 --> 1:54:47.320 saying that. Would you say it's not though I know 1:54:47.400 --> 1:54:49.480 I'm saying, like, I'm not saying that I don't think. 1:54:49.600 --> 1:54:51.600 I don't think industry until I see the final season, 1:54:51.640 --> 1:54:52.760 I can't say what that is. 1:54:52.920 --> 1:54:57.400 So you're saying the same thing. Business that's about. 1:54:59.320 --> 1:55:01.880 It ain't that good, Lou and I fun with it, 1:55:01.920 --> 1:55:06.320 but it ain't that Euphoria. 1:55:07.880 --> 1:55:10.520 The whole point right there, This whole his response is 1:55:10.520 --> 1:55:11.560 my point. 1:55:11.080 --> 1:55:14.160 My point is that I don't have I got to 1:55:14.160 --> 1:55:15.600 wait till the final season come out because we've just 1:55:15.600 --> 1:55:18.240 seen the final season of Euphoria and you already concluded, 1:55:18.240 --> 1:55:19.800 all right, this is better now because I've seen the 1:55:19.880 --> 1:55:22.080 ending of this. So I'm saying, we got to put 1:55:22.120 --> 1:55:24.400 up both shows when both shows have ended, and see 1:55:24.400 --> 1:55:24.720 what's we. 1:55:26.480 --> 1:55:27.960 Two and a half hours, y'all. 1:55:28.240 --> 1:55:29.960 Yeah, let's go as. 1:55:31.880 --> 1:55:32.400 Bad, y'all. 1:55:32.880 --> 1:55:39.720 Uh, those are our thoughts on the final season of Euphoria. 1:55:39.920 --> 1:55:41.120 Please let us know what you guys think. 1:55:41.240 --> 1:55:44.040 FBS podcast is ready thread that's also a handle for 1:55:44.080 --> 1:55:46.600 I G and Twitter, and we'll catch on the next show. 1:55:46.920 --> 1:55:49.800 Yeah, peace, all right,