1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Well, there was a new study that was done and 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: the study says the northeast Indiana and Indianapolis are the 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: best places to put a casino. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is fascinating because the downtown Indianapolis casino 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: conversation has been going on for decades now. Like I remember, 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: once upon a time I had suffered a serious head 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: injury and was pondering running for the state Senate in Indiana. 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I this is funny 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: the way they what one of the Oh, it was great. 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: We had an army of people, we were going to storm, 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 2: the best deal was going to be awesome. And then 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: just various I had various encounters. I mean, I've told 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: this story right about a very high profile lobbyist who 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: I this meeting changed my life where I was like, 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: this is a was a major power player in the state. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: And Sched's meeting with this guy goes great. He's telling 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: me about, Hey, we've looked at all the things you've done. 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: We think it's phenomenally think it'd be great for the 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: state to take that local stuff and bring it to 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: state level. We love the tax cutting, we love the 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: intervert structure, all this stuff you did the reforming of government, 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: and they just have this great thing. And it's like, 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, all right, man, I got all these people, 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: it's going to be a gajillion dollars in the war chest. 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: You know WHOA they might even I might even have 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: an opponent. People might just all cry, you know, mercy 27 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: and quit. But and then he goes, okay, now we 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: got to talk about the issue, and so oh, I 29 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: didn't know there was the issue. And he asked me 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: about a very specific thing. It says, well, what's your 31 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: opinion on that? And it's like nothing that even come 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: up on the radario And said, well, I don't know. 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't really have one yet. And he goes, well, 34 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: whatever your opinion on that issue is is going to 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: decide whether I support you or not. Wow. And I said, wait, 36 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: I will never forget set this table. Look at this guy. 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Wait wait a second. You're telling me all this stuff 38 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: you've told me for two hours and how great I'm 39 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: doing and blah blah blah. But if I have an 40 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: opinion that you don't like on this issue, and they 41 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: made very clear what the opinion that they that they 42 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: would like on the issue was, you're not going to 43 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: support me, and you would support the other person, who 44 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: you admit just totally sucks at the job they're currently doing. Yeah, yes, oh, 45 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: And I said, how does that work? He said, well, 46 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: because then you'd be messing with my money. 47 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: And he said, I can't stand. 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: He said, I love my state and I love my country, 49 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: but I don't love it enough to mess with my money. 50 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: And I walked out of there and I'll just never 51 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: forget this. And I just said, this ain't gonna beat 52 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: the thing for me because I'm all messed with too 53 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: many people's money. We're done here. But anyway, pointed all 54 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: this was, I remember this has been what ten years 55 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: ago that I was pondering doing this, and I was saying, 56 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: our gambling laws are really screwed up, like just totally 57 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: naive on all this, right, I was like, our the 58 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: gambling laws are really screwed up. Why don't we just 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: have a casino in downtown Indianapoles, Like, let's just pick 60 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: a really tall building and put it on the top 61 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: of it and think of all the money we would make. 62 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: And I remember this was not a gambling lobbyist, but 63 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: a lobbyist totally. This is totally separate conversation, and it 64 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: was like, remember in what's the Chris Farley movie? Is it? 65 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: Black Sheep? Where he gets stoned and goes on stage 66 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: with the with the Jamaican singers and starts shouting all 67 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: sorts of totally inappropriate stuff, and like they're all fired 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: up that he's up there because they said and then 69 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: he just says horrible stuff and they start going, no, no, 70 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: that's this guy. He just I said, why don't we 71 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: just put a casino on the top of a very 72 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: tall building in Indianapolis? And the guy goes no, And 73 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: I said why not? He goes the gambling lobby. People 74 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: will hate you. I was like, why it's gambling because 75 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: it'll interfere with all the other gambling stuff that they have. 76 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: They they depend upon separation of these gambling establishments because 77 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: it forces people to go to these establishments, all of 78 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: these casinos which are mostly separately owned. Like it's sort 79 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: of like territorial right, you don't impede on mine, I 80 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: don't impede on yours. You got this corner of the world, 81 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: whether it's Anderson or Shelby, you know whatever, right, Like 82 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: we've all got our own little piece of the pie 83 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: and we don't interfere with each other, and we make 84 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: it so that people in that area have to go 85 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: to our thing. I was like, yes, you can have. 86 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: That corner, but not my corner. 87 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: And I look back on this down like I was 88 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: so naived all of this because I was learning as 89 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: I was going. I was like, so, wait a second, 90 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: they'd rather screw the state and cost the state all 91 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: this revenue and development and taxes to protect the lobbies. 92 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: It's a very powerful lobby. And he was like, yes, idiot, 93 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: this is how this works. We're in it for us. Yeah, 94 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: we're not in it for anything but us, and we're 95 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: in it to make money. I will never forget that. 96 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: And that's how long this conversation about a casino going 97 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: in downtown indian I mean it was going on for 98 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: years before that too. It will never happen. There is 99 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: no way the gambling lobby will ever allow a casino 100 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: to go in downtown Indianapolis. 101 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: Spectrum Gaming Group conducted this study and they were identifying 102 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: different zip codes with the highest unmet gaming because they 103 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: want it. Their two proxy points for relocation were downtown Indianapolis. 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: And I love it how they describe it the Indiana 105 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: State House area because that's a wise choice. Hey, why not, 106 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: they're gambling with our money every day. That was chosen 107 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: for proximity to convention center and sports venues. The other 108 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: location sotheast northeast Indiana near Auburn, and they said that's 109 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: because it's close to Fort Wayne and could also attract 110 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: Michigan visitors. 111 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: But they tried to do that, didn't They try to 112 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: do that the last legislative session that people came out 113 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: were outraged and basically struck the idea of putting a 114 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: casino up there. Struck it down anyway. That was just 115 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: when you told me were gonna do that story. I 116 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: I just so remember those conversations and that guy. I 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: would be just being like, this is a simple solution. 118 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: Let's just put the top of the tallest building. 119 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 120 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: It was like just a big, beautiful casino. Think of 121 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: all the revenue. No. 122 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: So, right now, Indiana currently has access to thirty two casinos. 123 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: Fourteen of them are in state in eighteen are near 124 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: neighboring states.