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Speaker 1: Are you really open?

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Speaker 2: Are you alcome?

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Speaker 1: Thanks?

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Speaker 2: Going to be okay?

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Speaker 1: Are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm fine. I'm pretty freeing far from okay? Are

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Speaker 2: you okay? With this?

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Speaker 1: On? A hammer and idol got an update here for you,

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Speaker 1: Ethan Hatcher filling in for Hammer. Greg Ballard made the

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Speaker 1: former mayor of Indianapolis a successful mayor. Long time there,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight to two term mayor, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: long yeah, two thousand and eight to twenty sixteen, I

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Speaker 1: believe eight years. So he's running for Secretary of State

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Speaker 1: as an independent against Diego Morales and you know the

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Speaker 1: other names of the other parties that are running. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know who they are, but anyway, they're not anyway,

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Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah. So Andrew Ireland in the State House Rep.

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Speaker 1: Brought this up. He said records indicate Ballard voted absentee

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Speaker 1: in Indiana in twenty three and twenty four, despite moving

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Speaker 1: to South Carolina in twenty twenty one. It's a felony

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Speaker 1: to vote but not reside in a precinct. Blah blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah. You know, you know the drill. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talked about this earlier. We talked about that the

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Speaker 1: fact that Ballards that he moved. Greg Ballard has responded

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Speaker 1: on social media at Greg for Indiana, this kind of

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Speaker 1: nonsense is exactly why I'm running, He reposted Andrew Ireland's tweet.

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Speaker 1: This kind of nonsense is exactly why I'm running. We

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Speaker 1: moved back to Indiana in March of twenty three and

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Speaker 1: registered to vote soon thereafter, like any good citizen would.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of just like what you said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you would, hope is.

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Speaker 2: A little bit more common.

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Speaker 1: Ballard has some sense, especially if you're running for doing.

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Speaker 2: The secretary of state.

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Speaker 1: He's back, Yeah, who oversees the elections in the state.

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Speaker 1: They would have played by the rule fresh up on

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Speaker 1: your election law? Yeah yeah, all right? Are you okay

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Speaker 1: with this? So Georgia father that gifted his son the

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Speaker 1: gun that the teen would go on to use to

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Speaker 1: kill two classmates of two teachers in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: I remember this tragic it's a school shooting. The Georgia

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Speaker 1: father that gave his son the gun convicted of murder.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know this dude gave his son a

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Speaker 1: semi automatic assault rifle. They said there was you know,

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Speaker 1: sufficient warning, sufficient warning that he was not a stable

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Speaker 1: person to give something like that too. His mom, I think,

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Speaker 1: was saying things along those lines. Are you okay with this?

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Speaker 1: Georgia father convicted of murder for what his son did

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Speaker 1: at the school shooting?

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Speaker 2: Not only am I okay with this? Nigel? I wish

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Speaker 2: we would see more of this. I wish for this

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Speaker 2: would be repeated here in the city of Indianapolis, that

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Speaker 2: parents would be held accountable for letting some of their rotten,

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Speaker 2: bastard children run around be gang bangers downtown, cause problems,

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Speaker 2: shoot up businesses, be general hoodlums. Then yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: are not actively being the responsible party, if you are

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Speaker 2: not behaving like a responsible parent, and you are inflicting

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Speaker 2: your little rotten kid on society, then yeah, there should

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Speaker 2: probably be consequences for that. And this seems totally measured

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Speaker 2: because note the mother is not indicted in this process

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Speaker 2: because she did everything within her power to try and

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Speaker 2: prevent this outcome from happening, and that's all you can do.

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Speaker 2: If you can demonstrate that you are behaving as a

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Speaker 2: responsible party, then absolutely you shouldn't be held responsible for

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Speaker 2: other people's actions. But if you are contributing to their delinquency,

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Speaker 2: if you are a party to their malfeasance, then you

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Speaker 2: should also be held account.

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Speaker 1: It's an unprecedented conviction. Either a Michigan mom and dad.

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Speaker 1: You remember these guys in Michigan, the mom and dad convicted,

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Speaker 1: the first parents ever convicted in a mass school shooting.

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Speaker 1: They failed to prevent their son from possessing a gun

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Speaker 1: that led to the murder of four students in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, and they were they were sentenced to well,

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Speaker 1: it was involuntary manslaughter. Ten years behind bars. Now, I did.

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Speaker 1: I did want to get Guy Rilford his take on

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Speaker 1: this Second Amendment. Attorney a longtime friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: and I was host of the Yoh Yeah oh Man

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Speaker 1: just a just an expert on the Second Amendment, hosted

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Speaker 1: the Gun Guy Show here Saturdays on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: This so I asked him about this guy getting charged

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Speaker 1: with murder for giving his son the gun that he

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Speaker 1: used to kill the classmates of the teachers with. Here's

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Speaker 1: Guy's take. Man, that's sketchy. I could see civil liability

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Speaker 1: for negligent entrustment. Maybe criminal recklessness or negligent homicide is

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Speaker 1: criminal charges. But murder intentionally killing a human being, it

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Speaker 1: seems like a stretch. Okay, the actual so he's talking

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Speaker 1: just in terms of the charges. Oh okay, I know

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Speaker 1: what you're saying about holding parents responsible, and I get it,

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Speaker 1: totally get it either. Well maybe, but murder it does

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Speaker 1: seem like sort of a stretch to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe like the Michigan parents. Then involuntary manslaughter because

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Speaker 2: they weren't the parties that were actually pulling the trigger,

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Speaker 2: but they did arm the person who did so.

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Speaker 1: In dystopian news here, Washington State is banning companies from

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Speaker 1: forcing employees to implant microchips under their skin like they

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Speaker 1: do a dog. First of all, it doesn't sound like

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Speaker 1: anyone's actually trying to force people to do that yet,

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Speaker 1: but they're banning it proactively so they can. You know,

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Speaker 1: this stuff has medical uses too. They're saying that open

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Speaker 1: doors and swipe your hand across a sensor. I see

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Speaker 1: this growing up in the church like I did, is

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Speaker 1: like a you know, putting one of those things on

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Speaker 1: your body is like a you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: signs of the number of the beast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, Yeah, that's exactly what I was about to say.

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Speaker 2: All my life from religious evangelicals, I'd been told that

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Speaker 2: Implanting a microchip in your hand was the mark of

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Speaker 2: the beast.