1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Well, let's say. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Not the end of our show now, I mean, at 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: least a far as we know, Well, you never know. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's a lot of anything. First of all, 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: my last day of the year is Friday. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: This is true, Radiothon, That's right. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love how you do that. 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 4: Every year, bank all your vacation days to the end 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 4: of December. After Radiothon, you're like, Okay, I'm out, bye, 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 4: see you next year. 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: And every year they're like, you will not be allowed 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: to do that. And then they're like, well, this guy 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: has so little going for him, let's just give it 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: to him. 15 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: No, it's sympathy they have. 16 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: I had a good excuse this year though, because Libby's 17 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: daycare is closed, and I was like, look, I'm not 18 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: gonna be here one way another. 19 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: You either give me the off days. 20 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Or I'll just be insubordinate, right right, Like, I gotta 21 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: gotta do what I gotta do. But this is the 22 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: last our schedule to be We were told our final 23 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: program here at forty Monument Circle right tomorrow. They are saying, Now, 24 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: assuming all the buttons work right, they're saying, we're going 25 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: to debut at our new studios. 26 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: Do we know the address. 27 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm not giving that out. 28 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll email it to us eventually. So how 29 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: long have you worked in this building. 30 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: I've been here since December of twenty sixteen. I was 31 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: brought in as a fill in guy. It took me 32 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: about six months to get in as a fill in guy, 33 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: and then I started out. Abdul used to have a 34 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: nighttime show. I started out filling in for him. I 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: did well enough with that that once the new year 36 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: came around that Hammer and Nigel knew they were getting 37 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: that afternoon show, but they had a night show for 38 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: a while. So of course Nigel was missing as much 39 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: work then as he is now. So I spent about 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: things never changed. I spent a lot of time as 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: the fill in guy for them. Did well enough with 42 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: that that then they started letting me do fill ins 43 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: for the morning show, at which point then they hired 44 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: me because I was doing They really, look, I was 45 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: a horrible producer. 46 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: This will shock you. 47 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: I didn't care, and I wasn't really you're a horrible 48 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: producer now of our show. 49 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: But they were like, this guy's so good as the 50 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: fill and we have to find something for him because 51 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: we're paying him so much money to be the filling guy, 52 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: we might as well just get some sort of full 53 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: time something. So they hired me to work with the 54 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: women and then become essentially the full time filling guy 55 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: for everybody. And then I was with the women what 56 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: for three and a half years, And then it was 57 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: me and Mock for a year, and now it's been 58 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: you and me for going what twenty two, twenty three, 59 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: twenty four, This will be our four We're coming up 60 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: on our fourth year. So that is my long and 61 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: winding road here at WIBC. 62 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: You're at forty Monuments Circle. 63 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: What was the building like when you first arrived and 64 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 4: what sort of changes or renovations have you noticed throughout 65 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: these years? 66 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Well anything, Well, it's been fascinating. 67 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: That how much the populace has changed the industry has 68 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: changed a lot, and how WIBC because of our audience, 69 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: Like all of this is because of our audience. Everything 70 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: I have, everything that you have. We have talent, we 71 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: have the ability to put shows together. But if our 72 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: audience wasn't as great as it is, none of this 73 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: would have lasted, certainly nine years. Casey, you have been 74 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: in management and radio for much of your life. How 75 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: many people make it anywhere in radio nine years? Oh, 76 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 2: that's pretty rare. Yeah, right, So it's normally a couple 77 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: of years and then you're out. 78 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Especially someone who causes as many promises as me. 79 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 4: That's true when the phone calls come in and it's 80 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: the complaints against you. 81 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: But it is really a tribute to our audience, because 82 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: our audience. While the radio industry has really struggled and 83 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: we have obviously under new ownership, from where we were 84 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: when I started, WIBC remains an anomaly in this business 85 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: that we just keep moving forward like a freight train. 86 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: And almost every ratings book one, two or three, you're 87 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: gonna find WIBC right there in that. 88 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: One, two or three slot. 89 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: And we were two of the most recent book Nobody's 90 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: Beaten b one Z five seven during Christmas season. And 91 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: so that is really a tribute to our audience that 92 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: that has been the common thread throughout the nine years. 93 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you think about what we went through. Trump 94 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: had just been elected the first time when I started here. 95 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: We've had all the Trump first presidency, the COVID, the riots, 96 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: the Biden years, the reemergence of Trump. We've had Hulcombe 97 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: be elected all this other one on with him. It's 98 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: the engagement of the WIBC audience and how wonderful and 99 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: amazing they are has been the point of commonality throughout 100 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: this whole my whole time here. 101 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you have a favorite memory here or anything 102 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 4: naughty that you did here in this building that you 103 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 4: can finally. 104 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 3: Fess up to. Oh, I did a lot of auditings 105 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: building same. 106 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: More words, so the family oriented program, okay, and those 107 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: were different times. But look, I just think I think 108 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: that the building and this the sounds look I other 109 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: than when I worked at the State House. 110 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: I never worked anywhere. Yeah, I mean. 111 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: I worked at we were always remote where you work 112 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: for yourself. 113 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never I had never. I mean I worked 114 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: very at very young age. I worked at a radio station. 115 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: But from basically twenty one on it was or twenty 116 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: two on, it was all me own my radio station 117 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: by streaming company. And then the brief time I went 118 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: into the state state government. But like, I'd never gone 119 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: to work every single day, I'd never been around co workers. 120 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Like this was all foreign to me. When I know that. 121 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: Sounds ridiculous to say, but this was all all foreign 122 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: to me. And so the building is the point of commonality, right, 123 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: Like as a kid, you grew up coming here and 124 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: you would see, Now it wasn't WIBC on the circle 125 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: when I was a kid, but this building, these companies, 126 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: these frequencies were on the circle and you would you 127 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: would grow up seeing the marque, the WIBC headline, what 128 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: do they call it, the scrolling the news scroller out 129 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: on the circle, and you'd say, that's where I want 130 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: to be. I want to be in that building growing 131 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: up that that's the place I want to be. And 132 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: then you realize I made it right, and the building 133 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: almost becomes like a person. Right, the building becomes like 134 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: family because all of these events nine years long time. 135 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it, but nine years this building 136 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: through all of the stuff, your life changes, your growth, 137 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: the birth of my daughter, all of these things. Right, 138 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: the building is the place you always came to and 139 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: came back to, and it's sort of like you're moving 140 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 2: on from that. 141 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you've been here four years. 142 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have. 143 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: And out of my thirty plus year career in media, 144 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: in this radio industry, I have gone through ownership changes 145 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: in the past. I have done format changes and I 146 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: have relocated, and out of all of those things, relocating 147 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: is one of the toughest things to do in radio 148 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: because it's such a technical field. It's not as tough 149 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: as television, because you could honestly mcguiver or radio station 150 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 4: with some duct tape, duct tape and a rubber band 151 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 4: and keep it on the air. 152 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: But it should be a pretty seamless process. 153 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: They should honestly flip one switch, maybe have a second 154 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: of dead air, flip another switch, and we'll be back on. 155 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: To the average listener, they won't notice the difference unless 156 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: they're watching on the YouTube feed. I think our new 157 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: studios are gonna be glorious. We're gonna have brand new equipment. 158 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: We're not gonna have the frustrations of things breaking down 159 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: or uh breaking down the bathroom making weird noises out 160 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: of nowhere. So I'm really excited about the new opportunity 161 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: for WIBC and what this can become, not only for 162 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: us and what we'll have to not deal with on 163 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: a daily basis, but for our viewers on the YouTube channel, 164 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: because I think they're going to see how the new 165 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: studios are gonna be great. 166 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you close a chapter like guy, I've 167 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: always said this about WIBC. I have lived my dream, 168 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: especially the past five years with my own show. Yes, 169 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: it's been it's been a great dream if they came tomorrow, 170 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: because I always get the. 171 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: People, I can't wait to fire you. 172 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: Bell will told for you. 173 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: You've been at that for nine years. You people have 174 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 2: been very passionate for nine years. And it will happen eventually, 175 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: not because you cheer for it. It happens to everybody. 176 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: And I've always said if it happened tomorrow, I would 177 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: be sad that I didn't get to engage with our audience. 178 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: But how many people can say legitimately they lived out. 179 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: Their childhood dream. 180 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: And for me it was to be on WIBC and 181 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: in this building that I grew up walking past and going, Wow, 182 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: that's awesome. You'd come down here during Christmas time, everything's 183 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: lit up and go that's the place to be. And 184 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: so one of the things we got about a mental 185 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: left here. When you when you close a chapter, I 186 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: think you take a reflection of everything that happened during 187 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: that chapter. And I just want to thank all of 188 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: the people, whether it was Matt Hiblin who first brought 189 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: me in Hammer who was a huge advocate to get 190 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: me in here, David Wood who gave me the opportunity 191 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: to be a full time producer, and then obviously took 192 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: the huge flyer against I'm sure all of his better 193 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: judgment to give me the show. Jeff Smollien for all 194 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: the money, yeah, you know, and this building, and then 195 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: obviously now Urban One and their opportunity. But most importantly, 196 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 2: I want to think our audience, because all of these memories, 197 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: all of these special things I've been able to live out, 198 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: and the nine years we've had in this building, it 199 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: is because of you, and that you continue to engage, 200 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: you continue to support, you continue to listen, and whether 201 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: you listen, and I'm really the only person who can 202 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: say this on this station, but whether you listen because 203 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: you love us, or you'll listen because you hate us, 204 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of you, I get it. We 205 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: love you too because you all contribute the same way. 206 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: So from the very very bottom of my heart, thank 207 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: you for thank you for letting us live out the 208 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: stream every day. Thank you for the memories we've been 209 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: able to make in this building. And we'll try to. 210 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Give it to you. Just as good in the new building. 211 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: Yep. 212 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: I'm going to go spend some extra time on the 213 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: balcony looking at the view of the circle. And thank 214 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: you Rob, thank you Kevin, and thank you for listening today. 215 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: We'll catch you back here tomorrow from our new location. 216 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 4: This has been Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC.