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Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 1: The Fan Good Morning. In his trade deadline day for

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, will address that coming up in a

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Speaker 1: few minutes where Carlisle stops by in thirty minutes to

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Speaker 1: talk about the return of Myles Turner and where the

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Speaker 2: But let's talk more about the.

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts coming up their second loss of the season

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Speaker 1: on the road against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and what did

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Speaker 1: we learned yesterday with just listening to to Colts talk

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Speaker 1: about everything when it was all said and done. Where

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Speaker 1: do you think the coaching staff feels they are after

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Speaker 1: this loss and what they need to do to kind

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Speaker 3: Kevin h Yeah. I think Shane's I can express a

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Speaker 3: little bit more of a you know, maybe could have

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Speaker 3: not maybe as critical of that. I think it's been

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Speaker 3: still leads the league in carries and I just think

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Speaker 3: the bigger issue was you weren't effective running it. You know,

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Speaker 3: I didn't think the quantity when the game was still

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Speaker 3: Shane expressed a little bit of regret on that.

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Speaker 1: And now I mentioned that there is one chance to

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Speaker 1: improve this team outside of just getting players healthy again

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Speaker 1: this year. It is today, the trade deadline is coming up.

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Speaker 1: James are going to read you what they wrote on

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Speaker 1: ESPN dot com today Indianapolis Colts chance to make the

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Speaker 1: playoffs right now? Ninety seven point six percent, adding, subtracting

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Speaker 1: what would you believe adding, subtracting or sitting out for

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard today?

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Speaker 4: What they will do? What they should do?

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Speaker 2: What do you want them? What do you think they

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Speaker 4: What do I think they should do?

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Speaker 2: You'll be Chris Ballard for a minute.

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Speaker 4: Let's go show the man shopping, you know, not like

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Speaker 4: you know what my boy fifty cents said. We're not

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Speaker 4: windows shopping. We want to go in there and actually

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Speaker 4: that twenty interview years be goes.

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Speaker 2: I want five of these. I want eight of those.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's incredible. Recall there, Mark, I would say, let's

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Speaker 4: Now I will say, I'm not so sure. Who else

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Speaker 4: I believe to Philly. I know a couple other kind

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Speaker 4: I would not give up a first round pick for

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Speaker 4: also older, So it feels like if you were going

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Speaker 4: That's my other thing. So yeah, I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: know what's move to make. Do something like I got

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you don't get to be in this

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Speaker 1: Your offense has been a juggernaut, even even with the

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Speaker 1: sixth How about this, Kevin, even with six turnovers, they

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Speaker 1: It's this offense.

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Speaker 4: Is really better, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: No, because you still can't turn it all over. You

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Speaker 2: just you're never even in with it.

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Speaker 1: It's never even a one score game usually if there's

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Speaker 1: there's no chance Chris Ball would ever do this. And

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Speaker 1: I don't even know exactly what the contract is left,

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Speaker 2: Went before I, before he even became mature.

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Speaker 1: That guy is a game wrecker with the right people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly as a game wrecker, I would assume the

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Speaker 3: I think that's a call you would certainly make and

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Speaker 3: or at least entertain you for a for a few

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Speaker 3: to me, cornerback has just lessened on the need scale.

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Speaker 3: I was really impressed by what Jalen Jones showed.

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Speaker 4: How much more lesson was it after seeing him play?

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Speaker 4: I I shocked that he looked that good and it

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Speaker 3: I mean to get back half two catches in the game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think if you look at where I've

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Speaker 3: Javarious war can get back after the bye week, but

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Speaker 3: easier at night. Where's the pass rush? I don't sleep

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Speaker 3: seeing pass rushers get moved Dray Moont Jones move, Jalen

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Speaker 6: Wow, this swim swim that.

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Speaker 3: Should be Chris Ballard Windows shopping for free for trade deadline.

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Speaker 4: Do that at least give me ride Jackson at the

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Speaker 3: Michael Jackson's voice always gets me.

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Speaker 1: At least give me riding the danger field at the

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Speaker 4: Have you ever had that experience in your life? Anybody

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Speaker 4: on this show? I can't think of a dollar tree? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: She's just twelve dollars to the dollar tree.

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Speaker 4: I remember you just to go to thrift toward her

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Speaker 4: you didn't go for it. But what's a reasonable request?

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Speaker 4: What's what's a reasonable line to say no, I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna do this. Well That's where I'm at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I think you've seen a couple

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Speaker 3: those are nice double swings. Are they going to mortgage

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Speaker 3: your draft capital moving forward? No? But are the third?

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Speaker 4: You think the third was okay for John Phillips. Well, personally,

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Speaker 3: But if you're playing the common pit game and he

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Speaker 3: lessen some of the sting there and send it a

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Speaker 3: third rounder. I just think it's a unique time for

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Speaker 4: You just want me to work later today. I see

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Speaker 3: Oh, don't you have to write one or the other?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is actually very true.

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Speaker 3: They didn't make a deal.

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Speaker 4: I'm just joking, honestly. If you're asking me myself, give

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Speaker 4: your point, it's it's a different season, isn't what teams

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Speaker 3: I don't want to act like the Colts are the

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Speaker 3: I don't want to act like they're aging or this

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Speaker 3: is a one year opportunity, but the NFL window is

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, Alec Pierce, maybe Braden Smith, maybe Nick Cross.

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Speaker 3: Things are going to get complicated financially for you moving forward.

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Speaker 3: So you know how you fit all of that in there.

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a little bit more challenging.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Zia Franklin and to Forrest Buckner and

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Speaker 3: You know, these guys are all, you know, getting up

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Speaker 3: there a little bit more in age.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, Brian Burns has a contract

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Speaker 1: through twenty twenty eight, so.

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Speaker 3: That would take a lot of restructure. And I just

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Speaker 3: it would take a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of restructure. But I'm just telling you, that's a dude.

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Speaker 2: He can help.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got that's a dude.

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Speaker 2: That's a dude.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it again, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of that would have to happen. I'm just throwing it

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Speaker 1: because I think that's a guy. Now, look, the Giants

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Speaker 1: franchise around Jackson Dartin. To your point, Kevin, maybe he's

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Speaker 1: a part of their rebuilding plan.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's and I feel like we've had a report

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Speaker 3: with the Giants of like, no, we're not going to

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Speaker 3: do that. Now say yeah, yeah, I am all for

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Speaker 1: So here's what ESPN dot com has to say, adding, subtracting,

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Speaker 1: or sitting it out.

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Speaker 3: Quote. Let's say, ad with.

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Speaker 1: Caution, there's a move for general manager Chris Ballad to

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Speaker 1: make if the Colts feel so inclined. They are depleted

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Speaker 1: show later on today. If you're just joining us, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Miles Turner returns to the field House last night. You

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Speaker 1: heard about it live at ninety three five and one

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Speaker 2: He heard about it right before the game too, didn't he.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I saw his reaction on the bench and

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Speaker 4: But where we sit, Jeff, obviously you can't like you're

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Speaker 4: And I think my biggest takeaway is that Miles is

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Speaker 4: turncoat whatever. I just mean that I don't think he,

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're true villain's probably I mean Draymond

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Speaker 4: carry anybody thinks. Dennis Rodman didn't carr anybody thinks. I

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Speaker 4: felt disappointed and a bit disrespected with how things kind

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Speaker 4: it helps to have a bigger villain on your side,

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Speaker 4: because I'm sure Pacers fans don't like Giannis either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, would you guys say the percentage of booze were.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there were seventy thirty seventy.

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Speaker 2: Thirty, seventy five twenty five in that area.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, I didn't. I didn't know how they would

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Speaker 4: They blew that man through the entire video. I was like,

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Speaker 4: they gave you gosh THEO you know, I figured it

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Speaker 4: they were thinking, uh, how dare you play this this again?

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Speaker 5: So I was.

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Speaker 3: Surprised he played well early. I thought it'd be deer

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Speaker 3: and I thought he played pretty well now, like kind

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Speaker 3: for a brief second there, I don't think he would

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Speaker 3: I don't think Gianni's could have got it to Turner

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Speaker 3: But I thought to myself, is he about ready to

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Speaker 4: I know Rianna's ruined a Disney moment, man, because if

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Speaker 4: Oh you're getting booed out of there. So again, I

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Speaker 4: the whole soliloqui after the game about you know, giving

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Speaker 4: all these things about how the Pacers should have respected

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Speaker 4: I'm not cursing the man out. I'm just booing, So

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Speaker 4: I feel that's fair.

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Speaker 3: I did think, yeah, and I was, you know, I

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Speaker 3: This is with Tony Eastenson reporters pregame at the shoot around.

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Speaker 3: I guess yesterday morning probably would be the best way

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Speaker 3: he clarified his comments. I thought fairly well. Basically, to

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Speaker 3: summarize it, he feels like and he made it clear

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Speaker 3: and I would insert here, well that's what happens in

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Speaker 3: Tyrese Haliburton tears his achilles. But nonetheless, this was Turner

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Speaker 3: at shoot around yesterday with a lot of the indie media.

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Speaker 7: It said all the time that this league is a business,

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Speaker 7: it didn't changed out thought here. Now ownership in front

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Speaker 7: office's a different story. That's everything to do between me

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Speaker 3: It's a sick that was when you said, like, go

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Speaker 3: I guess do you feel like you were celebrated here?

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Speaker 7: We'll talk about value if you go with your values

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Speaker 7: the front office and ownership may value me here in Indiana.

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Speaker 7: So again, I wasn't a shot the fans. I see

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Speaker 7: how fans would have took that personally, you know, just

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Speaker 7: the running the camera by no means anything I said

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Speaker 7: I ain't doing with the fans or the city man.

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Speaker 7: You know, I said, there's strictly a business uh uh,

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Speaker 3: I get it. Four years one hundred and eight millions

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Speaker 4: Math and money. And as I always tell you all,

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Speaker 2: You can move me all you want for next to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But at the same time, I still think that

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Speaker 4: So I think that shot, you know, the I wanted

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Speaker 4: But I think was something about, like you know, and

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Speaker 4: and that sounds like, oh man, like Tyree's gets hurt,

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Speaker 3: I think there's probably a few times where he's opened

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It's not him. I don't think

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Speaker 3: He's not the villain. He's the kid that shows up

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Speaker 3: Some guys are built to be the holdout guys.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, Jay's he looked mighty built to be a holdout.

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Speaker 8: Council was more built to be the the holdout guy.

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Speaker 8: And how he was how I should be a wrestler.

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Speaker 8: And that's the agent for Jonathan Taylor for those unfamiliar

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Speaker 3: But you know, it won't make a light today. We

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Speaker 1: Jonathan, I thought you're gonna say something else. Jonathan fan

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Speaker 4: In his opinion, Yeah, and again to one of the

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Speaker 4: is not new to this. He knows whatever you say,

437
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Speaker 4: especially when you bring up Tyreez, who is the most

438
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Speaker 4: beloved player within the franchise, if it can be interpreted

439
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,960
Speaker 4: in any derogatory way, that is what's going to happen.

440
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Speaker 4: So I think you can avoid some of that if

441
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Speaker 4: you just give the man his flowers and stay away

442
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 4: from the whole. Well, he acts tough, he does this,

443
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,480
Speaker 4: He does that like okay, and he also give up

444
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,679
Speaker 4: his achilles, which is pretty tough to do, you know

445
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Speaker 4: for a guy trying to compete for a championship.

446
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Speaker 3: Are the booze as loud as they were last night?

447
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 3: If Miles Turners in a Sun's uniform.

448
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Speaker 2: Probably not.

449
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Speaker 1: I think it makes a difference that it is Milwaukee

450
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Speaker 1: and so much as transpired in the last three years especially.

451
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw somebody say like it was the light

452
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Speaker 4: version of Kevin Urant going to the Warriors, and I

453
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 4: was like.

454
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Speaker 3: Relax, like light light light light light light j V light.

455
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Speaker 4: YEA, let's puff the brakes here. But yeah, I do

456
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 4: think the rivalry, how much these groups seem to competitively

457
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,120
Speaker 4: hate each other. I mean, you saw the frankin fraul

458
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Speaker 4: last night from Aaronice with Oniani, which I don't think

459
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 4: it was dirty play, but just those types of moments

460
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 4: in the game. Yeah, I think that that adds to

461
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Speaker 4: certainly some of the fuel. But for me, it's a

462
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Speaker 4: great theater.

463
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Speaker 1: Can I say one of my favorite trolls at the

464
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Speaker 1: Fieldhouse though, is whenever Giannis shoots the free throws and

465
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Speaker 1: he bounces the ball repeatedly forever and the crowd just

466
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Speaker 1: counts three pounced.

467
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Speaker 4: Him and him and Siakam are similar with the free throws,

468
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Speaker 4: where they're both great players. I want them to have

469
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Speaker 4: the ball in their hands at the end of the game,

470
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Speaker 4: make the play whatever. But I don't trust either if

471
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 4: I need to free throws at the end of the game.

472
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Speaker 3: By the way, great knight for Isaiah Jackson. He needed

473
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 3: it twenty one to ten in that matchup. I would

474
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Speaker 3: assume this is one he probably circled a little bit.

475
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you to the best right now. Hell, look

476
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 3: fake for a huge bucket there in the fourth quarter.

477
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 3: And you know, I probably need to do this at

478
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Speaker 3: times with Isaiah Jackson as well. One year removed from

479
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Speaker 3: the Achilles, Yeah, one year moved from the as just

480
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 3: gonna get better and better to wait, what is he

481
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 3: twenty three, twenty four years old? So again, is there

482
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Speaker 3: a little bit more there? Because boy, the Pacers desperately

483
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,719
Speaker 3: desperately need him. For those that were not watching last night,

484
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 3: Quintin Jackson left of the hamstring injury, James, you mentioned

485
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 3: Johnny Furfey on crutches after the game. On the injuries

486
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Speaker 3: just keep on coming, and I don't you know, usually

487
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Speaker 3: there's a progression of these guys get back. We'll see

488
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Speaker 3: what Rick Carlisle shares here in a few minutes. But

489
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Speaker 3: you know, Andrew Nemhart and Benedict Matheren are still listed

490
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Speaker 3: as out. You know, usually there's like, hey, you're questionable

491
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Speaker 3: for a game, and then you maybe you know, get

492
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Speaker 3: to that, Hey you're gonna play two games from now. So,

493
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Speaker 3: assuming Quentin Jackson's going to miss time, I would guess

494
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Speaker 3: they could either go back to Ben Shephard as their

495
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Speaker 3: starting point guard, which I don't think I would do.

496
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Speaker 3: I'd probably vote for either Ray J. Dennis or Mac McClung.

497
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Speaker 3: As they get the winless Brooklyn Nets, I believe, Are

498
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Speaker 3: they the only one this team left?

499
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

500
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Speaker 4: I believe so, uh win seven Brooklyn Nets? Wait, it

501
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 4: might be the Pelicans.

502
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Speaker 3: Do the Pelicans win yet?

503
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Speaker 4: No? I don't think so. It's the disastrous down there

504
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 4: in No Len's Now.

505
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Speaker 3: The Nets have been a public about it. The Nets

506
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: are trying to lose, and they've lost very successfully so far.

507
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Speaker 3: So the Pacers desperately need to get that one tomorrow.

508
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Speaker 1: Well again, you talked about culture for the Pacers a

509
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Speaker 1: little while ago at the beginning of the show, James,

510
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: I know, it doesn't buy you victories, and they're probably

511
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Speaker 1: gonna end up in the lottery before the thing is

512
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Speaker 1: all said and done this year. Maybe that's in the

513
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: long run the better thing. That's a different discussion for

514
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Speaker 1: a different day. But they keep coming at you. Man,

515
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who you are, they keep coming at you.

516
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: Have the Golden State Warriors the other night they kept

517
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Speaker 1: coming after him.

518
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Speaker 3: Gotta win.

519
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Speaker 1: And last night the Milwaukee Bucks, one of the favorites

520
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference, they kept coming at him. Just

521
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Speaker 1: keep coming at him at least with your team.

522
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Speaker 4: You like that, Yeah, absolutely, And that's their DNA, That's

523
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 4: who they've become under Rick Carlisle. So I can definitely

524
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 4: respect that. But boy, talking to Siakham after the game,

525
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 4: that man is like he wants to waits nothing. I

526
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 4: want to win. I need a victory.

527
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Speaker 2: So that's why we love him.

528
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Speaker 4: Yeah, one thing to keep in mind real quick. Pivoting

529
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Speaker 4: back to the Colts reporting here from Ian Rappaport, he said,

530
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Speaker 4: up the seventh round pick for Logan Wilson. So looking

531
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Speaker 4: at that price, maybe the Colts should have been out

532
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Speaker 4: on him. If the seventh round pick is all you

533
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 4: need to go get perhaps a better linebacker, who knows.

534
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Speaker 3: I think there is a contract element there too that

535
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 3: Dallas is having to absorb, so again in the Colts restructure.

536
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Speaker 4: At the same time, I believe he's on one year deal.

537
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 4: He's an expiring cons right, so it can't be a

538
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,239
Speaker 4: whole lot of money they're selling out to go get

539
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 4: Logan Wilson. So something to keep in mind, all.

540
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 1: Right, Coming up in a minute, Rick Carlisle, the head

541
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Speaker 1: basketball coach for the Indiana Pacers, joins us on the

542
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Speaker 1: fan morning show.

543
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Speaker 2: It's ninety three five and what seven five the fans?

544
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: Alright, eight o'clock on a Tuesday.

545
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 4: You know what that means.

546
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle, head coach of the Indiana Pacers, joins us. Now,

547
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Speaker 3: PACER's got one more home game coming up here tomorrow night,

548
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Speaker 3: that is with Brooklyn before they go back on the road.

549
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Speaker 3: And what has been a very challenging start to the season,

550
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Speaker 3: not only opponent wise, but certainly from a health standpoint.

551
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: And Rick is on the Payloss Lickers Hotline coach, Good

552
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: morning to you.

553
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Speaker 5: How are you okay?

554
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Speaker 3: How have you framed? I guess these early losses with

555
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: your team? You know, you just watch every night and

556
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: you've got you know, half your frontline guys, if not more,

557
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 3: in street clothes. Have you found it challenging at all

558
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: when you get into those postgame locker rooms in kind

559
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Speaker 3: of framing the effort that you're seeing and obviously comparing

560
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Speaker 3: that to your record.

561
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Speaker 5: No, it's not difficult really, with the exception of two games.

562
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 5: The game at Memphis we we did not play well,

563
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 5: did not compete at the level that we needed to.

564
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 5: And then the home game against Atlanta. Those were those

565
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 5: were the two that were not good. And you know, really,

566
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 5: you've got to be realistic about things, and from a

567
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 5: process standpoint, we have to be at a very high

568
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: compete level, a very high unselfish level, and all those things.

569
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Speaker 5: And uh, you know, the the other games that we've

570
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Speaker 5: played so far, you know we've met those standards, and

571
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Speaker 5: so we've just got to be you know, we we

572
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Speaker 5: we've got to have a great level of objectivity here

573
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Speaker 5: on the one Here on the other hand, we've got

574
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Speaker 5: to we've got to work to get through a challenge

575
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Speaker 5: of time.

576
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Speaker 4: Rick, when you look at that fourth quarter, you all

577
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Speaker 4: were down double digits come back to tie the game.

578
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Speaker 4: And I talked to Jars and Pascal after the game.

579
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Speaker 4: They were saying that this is sort of their DNA

580
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Speaker 4: at this point, and why do you think no matter

581
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 4: who is out there for you guys, you all are

582
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Speaker 4: able to rally and have that next play mentality despite

583
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Speaker 4: you know, losing two guys throughout the game.

584
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Speaker 5: Well, this is what we've built, you know, this is

585
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 5: this is what we've done here. And I say we

586
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 5: it's been everybody, you know, It's been management, It's been

587
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 5: the players, the coaching staff. We we've really have have

588
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 5: strove to, uh to build a culture of compete no

589
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 5: matter what, you know, get down in dirty as much

590
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 5: as you have to do, as far as you know,

591
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 5: getting on the floor, playing with grit, playing with guts,

592
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff, and and find a way,

593
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Speaker 5: you know, find a way to to to win games,

594
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 5: find a way to stay in games. You know the situation.

595
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Speaker 5: So you know, I've been very pleased for the most

596
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Speaker 5: part with with the efforts that we've had, really with

597
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 5: the exception of those two those two games, and you know,

598
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 5: tomorrow's another tough one, and you know, we've lost a

599
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Speaker 5: couple more guys here.

600
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Speaker 3: Again as Brooklyn tomorrow night for Rick Carlisle and the

601
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Speaker 3: Pacers before they head out west. Here. Coach, last night,

602
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Speaker 3: I thought Isaiah Jackson gave you arguably probably one of

603
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Speaker 3: his better games of his young career. I've found myself

604
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Speaker 3: needing to remind myself he's only a year removed from

605
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Speaker 3: the torn Achilles. What specifically did you like from Isaiah

606
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Speaker 3: last night?

607
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Speaker 5: High level of aggression energy. You know, he's he's one

608
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 5: of our fighters too, you know, he's you know, he's

609
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 5: I know where he's from. You know, I was, I

610
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 5: was in Detroit for a couple of years. You know,

611
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 5: he's from Pontiac, Michigan. I mean, those are those are

612
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 5: tough dudes come out of there, you know, And so

613
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Speaker 5: he's a he's a warrior type guy, and very heartening

614
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 5: to see progress that he's made throughout the process of

615
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: return to play. You know, at the beginning, it was

616
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Speaker 5: it was difficult.

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Speaker 8: You know.

618
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Speaker 5: A lot of ups and downs, and you know, very

619
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Speaker 5: clearly did not have great rhythm and trying to get

620
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Speaker 5: his legs under him and those kinds of things. Last night,

621
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Speaker 5: you know, he just he just was able to bear

622
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Speaker 5: down and take things to another level. And so, you know,

623
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Speaker 5: this is what we need from him on as many

624
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 5: nights as he can do it. And really, this is

625
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 5: this is what we ask of everyone, and that is

626
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 5: just to give an unconditionally unselfish and gutty effort, you know,

627
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 5: out there to to compete to win games.

628
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: You mentioned another night of injuries in Quentin Jackson leaving

629
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: the game early, so you'll have to change up the

630
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: starting line up once again coming up tomorrow night. And

631
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Speaker 3: I was curious with all of your injuries, particularly at

632
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Speaker 3: point guard. You know, we've talked over the past couple

633
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 3: of years. You know, you've you've really handed the ball

634
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: to Tyrese and allowed so much freedom for him to

635
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: run the show. And even I assume some of that

636
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: has gone to TJ McConnell or or Andrew Nemhart. Have

637
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: you had to, I guess, call more plays from the

638
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: sidelines this year of you try Have you had to

639
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: create more like structure within the game offensively because of

640
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: all the point guard in and outs that you've had

641
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Speaker 3: through the first handful of games.

642
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Speaker 5: Well, things are different, for sure. I wasn't sure if

643
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Speaker 5: we were going to need to do that at an

644
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 5: extreme level. We have the capability to do it if needed,

645
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 5: you know, on the one hand, we don't have the playmakers,

646
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 5: the regular guys, you know, you know, tyree'se, TJ and

647
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 5: and Nemahart. On the other hand, the other guys have

648
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: have played in this style and have played a you know,

649
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: a past move, past move, create a problem type style.

650
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 5: And you know, when when you get in this situation,

651
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 5: slowing the game down can seem like a good idea,

652
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 5: but uh it can be a curse too, because it's

653
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Speaker 5: a lot harder to get shots, uh, let alone score.

654
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Speaker 5: So we've tried to keep the tempo up. We need

655
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Speaker 5: to keep an element of ball security in uh, you

656
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 5: know a love ball. Turnovers in this kind of situation

657
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 5: are very difficult to overcome, and the idea is to

658
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Speaker 5: play as much through our best players as we can.

659
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: And right now, the two guys that are the the

660
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 5: main guys obviously are Passcal Siakam and Aaron Nesmith, and

661
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Speaker 5: so a lot of action is going through them, and

662
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 5: we got to continue to try to find the best

663
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Speaker 5: opportunities we can.

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Speaker 3: Rick.

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Speaker 4: When you look at that fourth quarter, Jarris Walker ten

666
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Speaker 4: points four for shooting three assists, what did you like

667
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Speaker 4: from him down the stretch as far as just making

668
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: himself available to knock down some shots, but also play

669
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Speaker 4: making a bit to keep you on in that game.

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Speaker 5: Force, you know, a level of force that is needed,

671
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Speaker 5: A level of force that I believe he can go

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Speaker 5: to on a consistent basis, and so we need more

673
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Speaker 5: of that. He's made progress, for sure, people watching our

674
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 5: games can see that. That's an obvious fact. And this

675
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Speaker 5: is a this is an amazing opportunity for him right now.

676
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Speaker 5: And so so we need him and he's got to

677
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Speaker 5: be a guy that can do a little bit of

678
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 5: everything for us. You know, he's got the ability to guard,

679
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Speaker 5: he's got the ability to rebound, really to make open shots.

680
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 5: He drove the ball well last night. His passing is

681
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Speaker 5: is something that is is unique, you know, to to

682
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Speaker 5: his sort of body type and skill set, and it's

683
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Speaker 5: like an all of the above thing, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: I like, I like, I like the progress that he's made,

685
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Speaker 5: and uh, we're gonna keep pushing him forward.

686
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Speaker 4: Rick, You've mentioned Forrest a few times throughout Jarius and

687
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Speaker 4: his development over the years. How do you teach Forest?

688
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: I know he's already a tough guy, but what does

689
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Speaker 4: that look like in practice?

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Speaker 5: Just a mindset, you know, you simulate situations, you get

691
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Speaker 5: out pads, beat beat guys up as they're driving the ball.

692
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Speaker 5: Just you know, it's it's a lot of it, a

693
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Speaker 5: lot of it as an attitude, you know. And so

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Speaker 5: look he's he's playing a different style and he played

695
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Speaker 5: at Houston. I'm not really familiar with with what he's

696
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 5: high school and time at IMG looked like from a

697
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 5: style standpoint. I do know that he played point guard

698
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 5: one year at IMG, you know, when they had injuries

699
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Speaker 5: and so well, listen, this is this is a golden opportunity,

700
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Speaker 5: you know, for for him and in the organization right

701
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Speaker 5: now for him to get you know, some really high level,

702
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Speaker 5: meaningful minutes during a period where you know, we're we're

703
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 5: have some we have some real challenges and so we

704
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Speaker 5: need him.

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Speaker 3: Tuesdays, Tuesday's at eight, Rick Carlisle with us here on

706
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Speaker 3: the Payloft Sickers hotline again. The PACER's got one more

707
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Speaker 3: here at home before they head out west. Obviously some

708
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 3: extra juice in the building last night, Coach, any interactions

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Speaker 3: with Miles pregame or post game for you, He.

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Speaker 5: Came over to the bench, you know, to uh shake

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Speaker 5: hands with people right before the tip that that was it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, were you surprised at all by the fan rey

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Speaker 3: action pregame or within the game when Miles touched the ball?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I I guess not. And you know,

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Speaker 5: if you look at everything that has transpired over whatever

716
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Speaker 5: the period of time is. You know a lot of

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Speaker 5: things I guess have been have been said. I I'm

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Speaker 5: not I'm not on those social media channels in large

719
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Speaker 5: in large part, but you know, you hear things, and

720
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Speaker 5: so you know, divorce is difficult, you know, it's just, uh,

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Speaker 5: it just is. I will say that that I always

722
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Speaker 5: supported Myles, you know, completely, and I always admired the

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Speaker 5: man that he was when he was a member of

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Speaker 5: the Indiana Pacers. Know, he's from a great family and

725
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 5: all that, and uh, you know, sometimes sometimes these things

726
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: are difficult, but I harbor no ill feelings toward Miles

727
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Speaker 5: as a as a person. It would have been good

728
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Speaker 5: if some of the things said were not said. And

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Speaker 5: I don't want to get into all that, but you know,

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Speaker 5: some of the stuff going after teammates unnecessarily didn't didn't

731
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: didn't make any sense, you know, with the kind of

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Speaker 5: character that he's demonstrated here. So it's, uh, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was tough, you know, it was. It was tough.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was I was not expecting that extremer reaction.

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Speaker 5: But on the one hand, on the other hand, things happen.

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Speaker 4: Rick last one for me, we talk about franchise pillars

737
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Speaker 4: and Miles was one of those guys and now you're

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Speaker 4: new one over the last couple of years has been

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Speaker 4: Pascal Siakaman. After the game, he was talking about the

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Speaker 4: balance of not going crazy because the outcomes of these games,

741
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Speaker 4: but also holding himself and it seem accountable for trying

742
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Speaker 4: to close these games out. So I've actually just a

743
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Speaker 4: few times, but with Pascal when he talks about growth

744
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Speaker 4: in his leadership, how have you seen him push himself

745
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Speaker 4: even more at this edge of his career. For a

746
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Speaker 4: guy who probably has a Hall of Fame resume already.

747
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Speaker 5: He's just he's an amazing player. I mean, just flat

748
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 5: out and you know, obviously you see the skill set

749
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Speaker 5: on the floor. You know, you see the uh, the

750
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Speaker 5: integrity with which you know he competes, he's unselfish, all

751
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. And then and then there's a

752
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Speaker 5: leadership element to it. You know that is uh an

753
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 5: everyday thing that hasn't waivered, you know. So he's just

754
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Speaker 5: he's extremely special. And this is really you go back

755
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 5: in the history of the pacers in the NBA. Yeah,

756
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Speaker 5: I don't know that you're going to find a more

757
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: significant acquisition, player acquisition transaction, whatever you want to call it.

758
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: You know, in the history of the of the of

759
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Speaker 5: the Pacers, you know, during their NBA time. I'm not

760
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Speaker 5: as I'm not as versed on the ABA transactions that

761
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 5: that happened, but as far as the NBA, I mean

762
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Speaker 5: being able to trade for a guy like this and

763
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 5: and he he came to Indiana because he wanted to

764
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Speaker 5: play with Tyrese Haliburton, and he wanted to play with

765
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Speaker 5: the style that we were developing in a culture that

766
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Speaker 5: we were building, and that those things, those things are

767
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Speaker 5: very gratifying. Our fans should be very proud of that,

768
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Speaker 5: our organization should be very proud of that too. And

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Speaker 5: we need him now more than ever. I don't you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think that comes as any surprise

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Speaker 5: to anybody.

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Speaker 3: Coach kind of going off that and last one, and

773
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Speaker 3: as always, we appreciate the time you mentioned AARONI. Smith

774
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: alongside Pascal earlier. I thought it was a huge left

775
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: handed drive late in the game from Aaron E. Smith.

776
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Speaker 3: As you're having to turn to other guys late in

777
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 3: games right now, where is there bal in hell? Maybe

778
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: there's no balance at this point. It's just the state

779
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: of your your playing time. Is there any balance of

780
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: putting too much on the plate of Aaron and Pascal

781
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: and realizing that you know, oh boy, they have so

782
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: much to handle right now for your for your franchise.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just, you know, it comes down to it

784
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 5: was down the minutes, and it was down to the

785
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 5: load that you're talking about and trying to navigate it

786
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 5: is best is can can be done. You know, it's yeah,

787
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 5: I think you look at the stat sheet after the

788
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 5: game last night, and you know, to me, the two

789
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 5: stats that are the most telling is that Giannis plays

790
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 5: thirty one minutes and Pascal plays thirty eight. And you know,

791
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 5: that's that's something that is hard to overcome right now.

792
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 5: You know, you just you need your your best players

793
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 5: on the floor as much as possible. So I got

794
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 5: to keep looking at it, got to keep being i think,

795
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 5: very vigilant about getting him and Aaron their rest. You know,

796
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: Ernly played playing a little under thirty four minutes last night.

797
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 5: You know that's at the manageable number, you know, but

798
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 5: we just you know, I just got to try to

799
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Speaker 5: keep these guys as fresh as possible. I think at

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Speaker 5: this point that's a pretty obvious statement.

801
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: Any chance Andrew or Ben played for you as you

802
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: guys head out west, I mean.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about that's a that's a week, ten days out.

804
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: So is there a chance we'll get some guys back?

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Speaker 3: There's a chance, Rick Carlisle on the Payless Liquers Hotline again,

806
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: Pacers and nets coming up tomorrow night inside of Gambridge

807
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: Field House before they indeed head out west. Coach as always,

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00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: thank you, oh.

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Speaker 5: Great figure up.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday is going well as we continue here on the

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Speaker 1: Fan Morning Show ninety through five, one oh seven five

812
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Speaker 1: the Fan, Big week for the Indianapolis Colts. You got

813
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: the trade deadline coming your way at four pm Eastern

814
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: later on today. The Colts trying to bounce back from

815
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: that loss to Pittsburgh. They're still seven to two and

816
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: still the number one team in the AFC, and now

817
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: they pack up and head to Berlin for a game

818
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday morning against the Atlanta Falcons. And here to

819
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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about what it's like

820
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Speaker 1: to move an entire franchise for a week to a

821
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Speaker 1: completely different country on a different continent, is Melanie Lowe.

822
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Speaker 1: She is the director of Football operations for your Indianapolis colts,

823
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Speaker 1: and she joins us now in the Payless Lookers hotline.

824
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Melanie, there's nothing on your to do list.

825
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, m'laney. I'm sorry, Millenia.

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Speaker 2: My bad.

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Speaker 3: I can't even good morning.

828
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Speaker 6: How are you guys?

829
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Speaker 2: Well, I've been.

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Speaker 1: Schooled and appropriately so, but welcome to the We appreciate

831
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Speaker 1: you being here in the morning on a Tuesday, but

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, you have nothing on your

833
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Speaker 1: to do list today?

834
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Speaker 3: Do you well?

835
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Speaker 6: I have four hours to go and we're boarding planes

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Speaker 6: on our way to Berlin, US a dance group. We've

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Speaker 6: got ten of us going there ahead of the team today.

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Speaker 3: Melani, thank you for the time. I know this has

839
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Speaker 3: been probably quite the undertaking, although I don't know, maybe

840
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Speaker 3: Frankfurt braced you a little bit for it, although a

841
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Speaker 3: different part of Germany walk us through twenty twenty five

842
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Speaker 3: from I think you guys had an advance in the

843
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Speaker 3: spring as well, as much as you find it interesting

844
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Speaker 3: to you or our audience, What has this process been

845
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Speaker 3: like as early as going out there back in the spring.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely well, first and foremost, thanks for having me. I

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Speaker 6: really appreciate it. Yeah, so we went over in April,

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Speaker 6: and we've been working on this trip ever since. We

849
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Speaker 6: got notified right around in February that we were going

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Speaker 6: over to Berlin, and just it hasn't stopped. We went

851
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Speaker 6: over in April and saw the stadium, the hotel, the

852
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Speaker 6: practice site, and got to choose given that we're the

853
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Speaker 6: home team, we got to choose the different sites that

854
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 6: we prefer what was best for the team. Came back

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Speaker 6: to our colleagues, shared the information, and hit the ground

856
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 6: running on planning. It's been interesting too because you realize,

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Speaker 6: you know, you're planning two trips every week up until

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Speaker 6: this game, like you're planning for Pittsburgh last week and Berlin,

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Speaker 6: or you know, preseason training camp and Berlin. So it's

860
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Speaker 6: really exciting to get this thing rolling and we're excited

861
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Speaker 6: to go.

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Speaker 3: You were most nervous about what, or maybe the hardest

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Speaker 3: thing to plan was what I think.

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Speaker 6: The hardest thing is always the aircraft, just because there's

865
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Speaker 6: so many things that can go wrong, and that's the

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Speaker 6: most important thing. You got to get them there right.

867
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 6: And then once they're there, a lot of things you

868
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 6: can adjust and kind of figure out on the fly,

869
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 6: but they've got to have a plane to get there,

870
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 6: so we had to contract and reach out to several

871
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 6: different airlines. Hey can you take us? What does it cost?

872
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 6: You know, negotiating pricing and just do you have availability,

873
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 6: Like what's the biggest aircraft, what's most comfortable for our team?

874
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 6: And from there we get to customize our entire plane.

875
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 6: So where the players sit, the manifest, when do the

876
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 6: lakes turn off? What kind of food do we serve?

877
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 6: All of that is really customizable. So I think that's

878
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 6: really the biggest chunk that we've had to figure out

879
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 6: this year.

880
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: Milani Low joining us here on a payoff Slickers hot line,

881
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 4: the director of football operations for the Colts and Milani.

882
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 4: I have to ask this because I feel like my

883
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: passport is staring at me every time I leave my

884
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: apartment because I'm going heading over to Germany as well

885
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: later this week. How high up on the list is

886
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 4: that for reminding players to actually bring that?

887
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, you have no idea.

888
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: I think that's what keeps me up at night.

889
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: So we we don't.

890
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 6: I mean, we trust them, but we do, right, So

891
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 6: we collect all of those back in training camp, We're like, okay,

892
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 6: you're back here. You're ready, you're lucked in for a season.

893
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 6: We're taking your passport for you. So and you have

894
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 6: to you know, realize too when we're doing all the

895
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 6: transactions and different you know, the roster is fluctuating. We're

896
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 6: making sure that these guys have passports, visas, all.

897
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 5: Of the things.

898
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 6: But that's high on the priority. We start that in April. Okay,

899
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 6: who needs passports. Let's get you going, Let's get the

900
00:42:59,160 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 6: process rolling.

901
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: That's crazy to think about all the things that you

902
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: have to be responsible for to make sure that they

903
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: only have to show up and play. What's the one

904
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: thing you've learned through this process that you just didn't

905
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: know going in.

906
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 6: That's a great question. I think that, like, relying on

907
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 6: the people around you is really important. So whether it's

908
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 6: the league or the people in Germany, they're experts at

909
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 6: what they do, so making sure that you make really

910
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 6: great connections when you're over there, and like the soccer team,

911
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 6: for example, we're playing at a professional soccer teams practice

912
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 6: site and using them as resources. Hey, what type of

913
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 6: protein powder do you use? Or you know, what does

914
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 6: your training equipment your weight room look like? Can we

915
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 6: use some of the things that you guys have while

916
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 6: we're over there, since not everything's accepted or we can't

917
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 6: ship over everything that we normally would use, just with customs,

918
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 6: So it's a lot of learning, like, hey, what's allowed

919
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 6: into the country, what does customs look like, and what's

920
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 6: necessary to bring over. Like you said, I mean, at

921
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 6: the end of the day, we want to make sure

922
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 6: this is as seamless as possible, making sure the guys

923
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 6: have everything that they need and it replicates a home

924
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: game and still allow them and experience in Germany.

925
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: So the voice of Mulani Low, she certainly will deserve

926
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: a cold beverage coming up late Sunday whenever the Colts

927
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: do depart from Germany and everything is back to normal.

928
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: I say that in quotes. She's the director of football

929
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: ops for the Colts. Mullany, you mentioned the home aspect

930
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: to it, if I'm not mistaken, I want to say

931
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: the Colts were the road team back in twenty sixteen

932
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: as well when they went to London, and then you

933
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: guys were the road team with New England a couple

934
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: of years ago. So the home element for our audience

935
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: that might not be super familiar with that with the

936
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: international games. That provides what for you.

937
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 6: When we were in Berlin in April, we got to

938
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 6: have first choice on all of the hotels the practice sites,

939
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 6: so we get first DIBs. Whatever works best for our team,

940
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 6: we decide, and then the Atlanta Falcons came in second.

941
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 6: It also, weirdly enough, it allows us to leave the

942
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 6: country first, so if not Germany does have a curse

943
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 6: you so you can fly past eleven pm, which we

944
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 6: ran into that in twenty three, getting close to that

945
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 6: eleven o'clock deadline, then you would have to stay in

946
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 6: the country. So it gives us priority out of the

947
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 6: country to make sure our team can get back to

948
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 6: the US and have a normal by week that following week.

949
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: Well, and nothing's gonna make those boys jog a little

950
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 3: bit more to the bus than that potential of staying

951
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: another night there. Do you guys have home presentation within

952
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 3: the game? I don't know, maybe that doesn't fall on

953
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: your plate, but like, well the game aspect, you know,

954
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, commercial breaks, those sorts of things. Jumbo

955
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 3: Tron music. Is that all cults correct?

956
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 6: Yes? Absolutely. We have fan activation throughout the city leading

957
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 6: up too. We have a big activation outside of the stadium.

958
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 6: The pain itself on the field will represent both teams,

959
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 6: but in game experience will all be the Colts.

960
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: Well, Annie, now I know you discussed getting the players

961
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 4: over there, but as far as equipment goes, do that

962
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 4: travels separately? How do you all make sure that helmets,

963
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: shoulder pads and I don't know, band aids are all

964
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: making the flip trip and flat over as well.

965
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think that's one of the biggest other than

966
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 6: the aircraft. Sending stuff over is one of the biggest

967
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 6: lifts for us. So we send we actually send everything

968
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 6: on a boat back in August, so while we're prepping

969
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 6: for a training camp and going on the road for

970
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 6: away joint practices, we're also shipping stuff for Germany, so

971
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 6: there's a lot of moving pieces in August just to

972
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 6: get preps. So you're trying to think ahead, like, hey,

973
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 6: what will I need in three months and wrap your

974
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 6: head around that. So we send everything on a boat

975
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 6: that has to be put on what's called the karnae,

976
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 6: and it's broken out like how much does it weigh,

977
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 6: the country of origin, all the serial numbers, so it's

978
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 6: a pretty tedious process, and then we fly some of

979
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 6: our equipment also on the plane things that we can't

980
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 6: necessarily ship in August, such as your shoulder pads and

981
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 6: your helmets.

982
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: So can you explain what karnae is? Because we were

983
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: talking about this earlier. Kevin brought it up and I

984
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 4: told him, well, the only carne I know is Carne

985
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: is Sada. Yeah, so something in Baker's field correct exactly.

986
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm with you, but you kind of lost

987
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 4: me there.

988
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 6: I wish it was that. No, So it's actually all

989
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 6: the paperwork, the documentation for customs. So it's this long,

990
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 6: fifty page document and it lists every single item, every

991
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 6: single band aid, every single piece of equipment that you

992
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 6: can name in all of our trunks that we bring over.

993
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 6: We have to put the serial numbers, the country of origin,

994
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 6: the weights, all of that on documentation, send it over

995
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 6: to German Customs to get approved. I wish it was food,

996
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 6: Unfortunately it's not.

997
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: How would you compare Millennia Lo Cold director football ops

998
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: with us yere on the paylistickers hotline? How would you

999
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: compare the international charter to your weekly domestic charters.

1000
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 6: We try to keep it as consistent as possible, just

1001
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 6: so the guys have familiarity. So tons of snacks, more

1002
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: than you could ever eat in your life, tons of drinks,

1003
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 6: nigration items, supplement. So I would say it's very similar.

1004
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 6: It's a bigger aircraft. We try to make sure these

1005
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 6: guys are taken care of. We have sixty lay down

1006
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 6: flat seats pods, so they're going to be comfortable with

1007
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 6: fifty three man rosters set, you know. So I think

1008
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 6: that it's a little bit more spacious, get the guys

1009
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 6: to stretch out a little bit more, but operation a

1010
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 6: couple more meals on the flight, and like I said,

1011
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 6: we customarized all of that from start to finish. When

1012
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 6: do we dim the lights? When do we want to

1013
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 6: wake them up and turn the lights on? You know

1014
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 6: how many pillows and blankets do we order? All of

1015
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 6: that stuff run through us and our departments and all

1016
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 6: the people around us too. It's the huge support staff

1017
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 6: at cold Set kind of get this thing moving and grooving.

1018
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: Mulaney Low.

1019
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: She is the director of football Operations for the.

1020
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, in charge of helping them get from here

1021
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: to there. There being Berlin on Sunday, it's really more

1022
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: of a West Coast team questionings. I've seen it before,

1023
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: but was there ever any discussion or thought about, hey,

1024
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: you're already way on the East Coast playing in Pittsburgh,

1025
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: any chance of just flying straight to Berlin from there?

1026
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: Was it always coming back to Indy?

1027
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:42,959
Speaker 3: Great question.

1028
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 6: I think that's one of the huge benefits of being

1029
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 6: in Indianapolis is we're kind of es centrally located, so

1030
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 6: there was no discussion on going over there. I do

1031
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 6: know West Coast teams tend to do that, but for us,

1032
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 6: it's just it's so close, and you want to have

1033
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 6: the benefit of being at your facility with the team

1034
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 6: with the week leading, just because always that's our mentality.

1035
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 6: Have this week be as normal as possible for the

1036
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 6: guys and limit distractions, limit like them being out of

1037
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 6: their elements, and then hit the ground running on Thursday.

1038
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 6: So no, this is a normal road trip. Treat it

1039
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 6: like a normal road.

1040
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: Trip, Melanny. Last one for me, We really appreciate your

1041
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: time because obviously you are departing the states here coming

1042
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: up in a few hours. How would you compare this

1043
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: stadium history is obviously literally through the roof from this

1044
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 3: stadium to the Frankfort One a couple of years ago.

1045
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: For our fans, it might be going over there to

1046
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: watch the game. What would you compare this stadium to

1047
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: from a Frankfurt standpoint?

1048
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I'm very very excited about it. I had

1049
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 6: goosebumps in twenty three when I saw the stadium and

1050
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 6: the crowd. But this stadium when we went over in April,

1051
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 6: and mind you, this was an empty stadium, I had goosebumps.

1052
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 6: I think it's absolutely beautiful, it's historic, and just knowing

1053
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 6: how the crowd was in Frankfort, I have no doubt

1054
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 6: this atmosphere is going to be electric and it helped

1055
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 6: with our record. I'm so excited. It's going to be

1056
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 6: a great game and a great weekend.

1057
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: Bigger venue, right than the Frankfurt one?

1058
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 6: It sure it sure is. You have bigger city and

1059
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 6: a lot more activations. So we're very excited.

1060
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 4: So, Mulaney, the last one I have and I've been

1061
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 4: really itching to ask since you joined the call, how

1062
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: did you get this job? And how do you explain

1063
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: this to your family? Because my family's like, what the

1064
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 4: heck do you do? You write about sports?

1065
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 2: Do you work for the team?

1066
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 6: Do you not?

1067
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 4: But for yours I'm like, how do you even get

1068
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 4: in this lane? So did you ever think you'd be

1069
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 4: where you are, and yeah, how did you end up

1070
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 4: getting this type of job that is very unique?

1071
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 6: The great question. It's really hard to describe what we do.

1072
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 6: I always kind of like, what do we It's like

1073
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 6: almost what do you not do? What do you do?

1074
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 6: I actually started when I went to Saint Mary's College

1075
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 6: and I started working for Notre Dame football when I

1076
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 6: was a freshman in equipment. Actually loved equipment, worked for

1077
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 6: you know, the football team obviously, and got my start,

1078
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 6: and then kind of explored different career avenues within and

1079
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 6: took an internship with the Colts about five years ago,

1080
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Speaker 6: and I loved every minute since. So very grateful to

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Speaker 6: be here. And I think it's important to have a

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Speaker 6: little bit of an equipment background. You understand kind of

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Speaker 6: the grunt work that goes into getting a team, you know,

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Speaker 6: put together helmets, shoulder paths, all the things. And the

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Speaker 6: more knowledge you can build, the better well went in

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Speaker 6: doubt

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Speaker 1: Just put Blue in charge and everything will be perfect,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure exactly