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Speaker 1: Joining us now on the Java House Peel and Poor

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Speaker 1: of the Purdue Boilermaker basketball program. You hear him on

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Speaker 1: the football broadcast as well. Andy shares a birthday with

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Speaker 1: what is destined to be eventually a national holiday because

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Speaker 1: we have the same birthday. Rob Blackman joining me on

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Speaker 1: the show, Rob, how are you?

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Speaker 2: That's right? Jake? Rob and sting Ray Rob of IndyCar

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Speaker 2: racing fame. All September third birthdays?

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Speaker 3: You know who else?

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Speaker 1: By the way, Rob, and we probably we probably should

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Speaker 1: have stopped there while we were ahead. Charlie Sheen as

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Speaker 1: well as September third birthday, I believe.

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Speaker 2: Have you watched the documentary on Charlie Sheen?

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Speaker 1: So you know, I interesting you mentioned that I caught

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Speaker 1: my Charlie Sheen. Actually, so I assume you've seen the documentary, correct?

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Speaker 2: I have?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, he's a bit of a wildlifestyle. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that I don't know if this was covered

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Speaker 1: his flowers here. One of the things he did, Rob

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Speaker 2: I had forgotten about that, but yes.

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Speaker 1: Now that you bring it up, like, he always wanted

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody hit a homer, right, No, I

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Speaker 2: Was the story right. That was ended up being the

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Speaker 1: You know, knowing Charlie Sheen, he probably did that when

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this, Rob. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's any big surprise that Matt Paters group is ranked

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Speaker 1: saying they're not getting Aniel money, but you get what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying there. What is it about Purdue basketball that

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Speaker 2: So, you know, I've heard Matt Painter speak on this

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Speaker 2: best for you. As Matt Painter likes to say, once

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Speaker 1: What would you say is Charlie Sheen's signature role.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's funny for me, because I mean major league,

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Speaker 2: No? I think I think major League would be the

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Speaker 1: By the way, just so that we're clear rob in

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Speaker 2: Just so you know, I know the feeling trusts me.

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Speaker 1: Hey what new faces. So let's so just for example,

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Speaker 1: Bottom line is Charlie Sheen had other movies where there

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Speaker 2: Well, I think most the general fan base is going

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Speaker 1: By the way, I've not seen Young Guns and you

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Speaker 1: already spoiled it to me that Charlie Sheen dies early.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's critical, But you haven't seen Young Guns.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I have. I don't think I have.

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Speaker 2: The greatest films ever ever made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't seen the Wizard of Oz.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm being sarcastic. I'm saying you're saying it's one

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Speaker 1: Lastly, Rob, before we go, I'd be remiss if I

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Speaker 1: Here again Purdue number one in college basketball college football

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Speaker 1: for the boiler Makers. It is upcoming at Northwestern this weekend. Rob,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always, Man.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now go run young guns tonight.

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Speaker 1: Please, I will. I'll head right over to Blockbuster on

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Speaker 1: my way home. Yes, do that, I'll even rewind.

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Speaker 2: Right, don't be fine?

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Speaker 3: Please? That's right? All right?

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Speaker 1: Rob, appreciate it. Rob Blackman joining us on the program

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Speaker 1: going to begin with this. I mentioned this off the

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Speaker 4: Terrible answer, but it's all of the above. Well, before

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Speaker 3: So here's here's why.

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Speaker 4: It's all of the above, because any one thing is

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Speaker 3: It ask to be all of it. And here's why.

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Speaker 4: Because or here's how that's happening. I should say, they

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Speaker 4: if you will. Right, why is Daniel Jones able to

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Speaker 4: the job is his ability to understand what's happening before

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Speaker 3: I didn't think they would be bad.

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Speaker 1: Steven, When you look at you know, Daniel Jones in

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Speaker 4: Well, the first thing I'd say regarding the Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: And again probably something perhaps for later. But I have

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Speaker 4: But I just think it probably is another nail in

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Speaker 4: the coffin. Though I think that's fair. And here's why,

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Speaker 4: Because I don't know how this is going to go

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Speaker 4: for or But it does seem like they're going to

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Speaker 4: bring in another quarterback. I don't know who that will be.

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Speaker 4: If they bring in another quarterback, then that person now

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Speaker 4: gets all of the reps as the number two, number

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Speaker 4: two QB. That person gets ingrained. Meanwhile, Anthony Richardson is

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Speaker 4: not participating, he's not developing, he's not getting that experience

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Speaker 4: that they say he badly needs.

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Speaker 3: So it doesn't help. It absolutely does not.

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Speaker 1: Help, you know, Stephen the and again, then you wonder,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is but does he have value elsewhere?

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson? I mean, is there a team that's going

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Speaker 1: to take a flyer on him?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think, yeah, I think he'll be somewhere

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Speaker 4: for sure. Now what it looks like, what his role

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Speaker 4: looks like, that's harder to project. But there are worse

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Speaker 4: or less talented quarterbacks than Anthony Richardson who'll get second chances?

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Speaker 4: Who who weren't you know, the number four overall pick.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I do think he has a lot to

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Speaker 4: live down. Okay, he has some you know, some like

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Speaker 4: Samans not samanthis, I guess, you know, the the the

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Speaker 4: how people perceive him, perceptions I guess right, he has

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Speaker 4: some perceptions that he has to live down, whether it's

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Speaker 4: you know, the tap out or whether it's you know,

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Speaker 4: does he or does he not work hard enough?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, I think those questions are out there and he

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Speaker 4: has to confront them. Some of them are fair, some

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Speaker 4: of them are not.

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Speaker 3: Let's just be.

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Speaker 4: Honest, right, But but they're out there and he's going

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Speaker 4: to have to confront them. But uh, he you it

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Speaker 4: could be something where it doesn't cost you a lot

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Speaker 4: of money. Let's say, for example, let's say he gets

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Speaker 4: traded after this season. No idea if that's going to happen,

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Speaker 4: but you could cut him, you could trade him. Let's

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Speaker 4: say he gets traded, which is where I predict this

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Speaker 4: would go. That's just you know, way too early prediction. Right,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna get him, probably for not much money. I

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Speaker 4: don't know what the trade compensation would be, but probably.

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Speaker 1: Not a ton.

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Speaker 4: And what is the harm? Right, what is the harm?

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Speaker 4: You know you saw that with with Daniel Jones to

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Speaker 4: some degree last year in the middle of the season

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Speaker 4: when the Vikings brought him in and when when that

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Speaker 4: season ended this past spring, the Giants didn't make excuse me.

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Speaker 4: The the Vikings did make a concerted effort to keep him.

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Speaker 4: They just weren't prepared to pay fourteen million dollars when

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Speaker 4: they had a viable quarterback in JJ McCarthy. But they

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Speaker 4: they were serious about retaining him. So I fail that

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Speaker 4: to say there will be some kind of market for

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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson. Whether it ends up being whether the result

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Speaker 4: ends up being what he really wants, that's harder to say.

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Speaker 4: But I think he'll be somewhere and someone will give

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Speaker 4: him a long look and we'll see what happens from there.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Holder is our guests from ESPN dot com. He

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Speaker 1: is on the Jaba House Peel and Poor Guest Line, Stephen.

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Speaker 1: The pass Rush an area that you know, interestingly enough,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are fairly susceptible at getting to Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: That's one area where they have not been as strong

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Speaker 1: as Indianapolis and protecting their quarterback. But and the Colts

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Speaker 1: have had their moments right, but they've invested so much

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Speaker 1: in pass Rush. Is it where you think they thought

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Speaker 1: it would be at this point? And if not, what

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Speaker 1: can they do to jumpstart it?

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's where they hoped it would be

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Speaker 4: it's okay. That's all I can say about, right, It's

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Speaker 4: just okay. And frankly, I think the fact that from

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Speaker 4: week to week my answer kind of changes it tells

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Speaker 4: you all you need to know. And what I mean

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Speaker 4: by that is like, I think a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: I was like, well, you know what, Watson has really

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Speaker 4: taken another step here, and if that's the case, they're

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Speaker 4: going to be pretty good. But then the next week

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Speaker 4: it kind of feels like Jacobe has all day in

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Speaker 4: the pocket and you're like, are they even out there?

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Speaker 4: You know? And Quittye Pay did have a good game,

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Speaker 4: and that was kind of the first time I really

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Speaker 4: felt like Quitty impacted them in a consistent way throughout

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Speaker 4: the game. But that's the problem, right, It's like one

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Speaker 4: game somebody's somebody has some impact. The rest of the

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Speaker 4: guys are quiet. I'm not seeing that across the board.

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Speaker 4: Efforts all come together where everybody's hitting on the same day,

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Speaker 4: and with what they have, they should get more of

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Speaker 4: that because they have a lot of veterans. As you said,

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Speaker 4: they have a lot of capital invested there, both financial

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Speaker 4: and draft capital. This unit needs to be more impactful

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Speaker 4: they are, I believe in the top five in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and defensive line spending. You've got to get more bang

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Speaker 4: for your butts period. That is just unequivocal. And they

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Speaker 4: are going to see tougher quarterbacks as they go on.

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Speaker 4: So this is going to be I think front and

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Speaker 4: center for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Where do things stand in terms of their defensive backfield?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, Savarius mooney Ward, really good player, freak

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Speaker 1: concussion that knocks him out. You've got to consider the

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Speaker 1: fact that you don't know what the availability is there

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Speaker 1: and they are still looking at practice, squad plays elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: That is an area I feel bad, Steven for Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard in this regard and the fact that I think

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Speaker 1: he really did make a concerted effort to strengthen that

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Speaker 1: defensive backfield, and at no fault of his or anybody else,

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Speaker 1: is due to freak circumstance. They're just not flat out healthy.

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Speaker 1: Where do things stand down in terms of who may

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Speaker 1: be in and what they may need to do to

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Speaker 1: shore that up?

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Speaker 5: All?

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Speaker 3: Right? Where do they stand? Well? I mean are you available? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: No, seriously, I mean I mean it's bad. You know,

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Speaker 6: I come with a discount code that's right, This is

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Speaker 6: perfect right, that's right. You know who has cap money

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Speaker 6: in October? You got to look for like bargains, right,

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's bad. I mean, look, think the thing

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Speaker 6: about Ward that you've got to remember is this is

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Speaker 6: his second concussion in a very short span.

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Speaker 3: He had.

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Speaker 4: He sat out week two, I believe, right, So you

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Speaker 4: know this is tough man. And I don't know that

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Speaker 4: we can sit here and pretend he's gonna play on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea, but I think to assume that

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Speaker 4: he has a likely shot of playing as probably fool's

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Speaker 4: goal right now. Right, So Kenny Moore than meanwhile, not

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Speaker 4: really seeing any recent progress there. I get tomorrow's the

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Speaker 4: next mile post on him. Well, he returned to practice.

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Speaker 4: But even if he does practice a little this week,

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Speaker 4: I mean he's been out three weeks. Is he's just

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Speaker 4: gonna roll out of bed and play? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Does he has to ramp up? You know, Jalen Jalen Jones.

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Speaker 4: They would kill for him right now, But I don't

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Speaker 4: know he's any Uh, he's closer, but I don't know

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Speaker 4: that he's on the verge of returning. So they're nowhere

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Speaker 4: and they're gonna have to buckle down and get what

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Speaker 4: they can out of these young guys, you know. So

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Speaker 4: it's the uh, it's some of these undrafted guys in

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Speaker 4: many cases who you know, people are just learning their names. Hell,

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Speaker 4: I'm just learning some of their names, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I think it is what it is.

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Speaker 4: It's it's gonna be tough, and it's gonna put perhaps

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Speaker 4: more more strain or more pressure on the offense, uh

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Speaker 4: to get the job done, because on the back end

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Speaker 4: of the defense, the likelihood of them giving up some

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Speaker 4: points is pretty high right now. And I don't think

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Speaker 4: there are any great and easy answers. They're plucking guys

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Speaker 4: off of waivers right now, and that tells you everything

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Speaker 4: about what you need to know about where they are.

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Speaker 1: Steven, when you are you're sitting at home right You're

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Speaker 1: sitting there and you're you're reading about Tennessee making a

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Speaker 1: coaching change, and you're wondering what that means for cam

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Speaker 1: Ward who came out of the same school as you.

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Speaker 1: So you've been paying a little attention to the way

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Speaker 1: he's going to jump start his NFL career, and you're like, man,

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Speaker 1: this is like Trevor Lawrence all over again. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got a rookie quarterback with a lot of promise,

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Speaker 1: and there's upheaval in the coaching situation. So you're reading

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Speaker 1: about all of that and your editor at ESPN calls

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Speaker 1: you and he says, Steven Bill here, you're editor. You

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Speaker 1: say hey, Bill, He says, listen, we got all this

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Speaker 1: stuff going on, and the Colts are they're five and one,

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Speaker 1: they the number one seed in the AFC, and we

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Speaker 1: want to really do something original. We want to do

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Speaker 1: something really unique, and we want you to write a

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Speaker 1: column about what it is about the Colts that no

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Speaker 1: one's talking about. What do you tell Bill? Is your idea?

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Speaker 4: H Well, I think it's I don't know if this

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Speaker 4: makes a great story, but it's definitely important. There's a

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Speaker 4: confidence right now. And I think Michael Pittman said it

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Speaker 4: yesterday and maybe I should have picked up on this earlier,

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Speaker 4: but maybe it just comes from winning. But he said,

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Speaker 4: this feels like twenty twenty when Philip Rivers came here,

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Speaker 4: and I think Rivers kind of infused that locker room

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Speaker 4: with a confidence, because you know, there's a swagger when

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Speaker 4: you're Philip Rivers, right, and you've been doing it for

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Speaker 4: you know, fifteen or sixteen seasons, okay, and have the

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Speaker 4: resume that he had, so he brought that with him

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Speaker 4: and you know, sort of infused that locker room with

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Speaker 4: a lot of confidence and raised everybody's level. And right

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Speaker 4: now they have a little bit of that, he said.

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Speaker 4: Pittman said, we just expect to win every game. And

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Speaker 4: it sounds like a cliche line. It's not the first

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Speaker 4: time I've heard a player say something like that, but

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Speaker 4: I think this was different, and I think you see

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Speaker 4: it when you're in the locker room. You feel it

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Speaker 4: like they they are now expecting to win, like they're

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Speaker 4: not surprised anymore. You know, we were certainly surprised at

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Speaker 4: they're five and one. But expectations change when you have

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Speaker 4: success externally, but they also change internally.

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Speaker 3: And this is a team that.

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Speaker 4: Right now has like an expectation of itself that we win,

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Speaker 4: that's what we do. And where does that come from?

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Speaker 4: I think a couple of places. Number One, Shane Stike

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Speaker 4: and it's weird, like he's not maybe the most you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he's like the most raw raw

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Speaker 4: Coast per se, but he's intense and I think his

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Speaker 4: intensity and his his his expectations of his players. I

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Speaker 4: think that raises the bar. And then there's there's Daniel Jones. Man,

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Speaker 4: that's just a part of it. Like when the quarterback

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Speaker 4: is getting it done. Even though Daniel Jones is quiet

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Speaker 4: and he doesn't say much, and you know, I don't

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Speaker 4: know what kind of presence he has per se in

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Speaker 4: the locker room, but when he's getting it done, players

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Speaker 4: respond to that. If they respond to nothing else, they

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Speaker 4: respond to a guy who's playing really well. And there's

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Speaker 4: a confidence here that it's hard to capture maybe in words,

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Speaker 4: but when you're a round it, you see it and

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Speaker 4: you feel it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Daniel Jones is interesting to me, Steven, because

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Speaker 1: Stevenholder ESPN dot Com. I guess we still don't know

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Speaker 1: a lot about him. You know, he's a quiet guy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the fan base, even the media.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's new here obviously, but he doesn't come

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Speaker 1: in with that Philip Rivers Bravada.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So if if a quarterback was a was an automobile,

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Speaker 1: you know, like Lamar Jackson's a Ferrari. I mean he's sleek,

648
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Speaker 1: he's fast, he's you know, he he looks the part

649
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen would be. You know, I don't know what

650
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen would be. Probably like a like a Camaro, right,

651
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Speaker 1: a little bit more muscle to it, but yet still

652
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Speaker 1: fast when it needs to be. What kind of car

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Speaker 1: from a personality standpoint, from when you've been around him?

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Speaker 1: What kind of car is Daniel Jones? And I'm saying

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Speaker 1: this to illustrate to listeners just what kind of dude

656
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Speaker 1: he is?

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Speaker 3: This is actually a great question.

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Speaker 4: I actually think he's like like alexis SUV, like the

659
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Speaker 4: small ones, the crossovers, you know that they can they

660
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Speaker 4: can run for like thirty years. Okay, just change the oil.

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Speaker 4: But they're also nice, right, they're they're not. It's not

662
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Speaker 4: it's not you know, it's it's not a supercar. It's

663
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Speaker 4: not sexy necessarily, but.

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Speaker 3: Nice, reliable.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you never have to worry about it.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: It blends in, right, it's not what did you say,

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is a Camaro? Yeah, maybe not supercharged Camaro

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Speaker 4: or or you know, Corvette. But also if you drove

670
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Speaker 4: it to you know, if you parked it at the

671
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Speaker 4: the valet at Saint Elmos, nobody be looking at you

672
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Speaker 4: like really right, so you fit in right, it's it's perfect,

673
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Speaker 4: it's so, it's it's it's persatle you can you can

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Speaker 4: drive to the grocery store. You can drive it out.

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Speaker 1: When he's When Daniel Jones walks into the locker room,

676
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Speaker 1: is he the guy that players stop like Peyton Manning

677
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Speaker 1: when you walk in the locker room, like everybody stopped like, okay,

678
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Speaker 1: what's the mood?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: And Andrew Luck when he'd walk in the locker room

681
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Speaker 1: like kind of had a goofiness about him. Of guys

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Speaker 1: you could tell just they knew he was in charge.

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Speaker 1: Is Jones that kind of guy?

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Speaker 4: Yes, in a in a way that I think maybe

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Speaker 4: you have to see, like for example, like you mentioned

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Speaker 4: Luck and you know the whole awe sucks thing that

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Speaker 4: I think you know, people on the outside perceived it

688
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: was true to a degree. He's look he was he

689
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Speaker 4: a nerd. Yes, that's true. He would tell you that.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, I have seen him two

691
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Speaker 4: guys out things were Luck. I've seen him two guys

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Speaker 4: out and drop an F bomb and tell them where

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Speaker 4: they need to be. With my own two eyes, I've

694
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Speaker 4: seen that, right. I haven't seen that from Daniel Jones.

695
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Speaker 4: But I but there there is feedback from players who say,

696
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Speaker 4: like he is demanding and there are the expectations are clear.

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Speaker 4: I think he understands, like what what the expectation is

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Speaker 4: of a quarterback in terms of how how they should

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Speaker 4: carry themselves and how they should be demanding of their

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Speaker 4: of their teammates. Remember, you know he has a relationship

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Speaker 4: with the Mannings, right, so they understand that and and

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Speaker 4: they imparted that on him. So I think some of

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Speaker 4: that comes from that, and some of it just comes

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Speaker 4: from him just being, you know, Daniel Jones really just

705
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Speaker 4: being a someone who has high standards for himself. So

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Speaker 4: in that regard, I think yes, the answer is yes

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Speaker 4: to that that he is Definitely he's not maybe in

708
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Speaker 4: your face and and and maybe doesn't like heads don't

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00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 4: turn when he walks in the room and all that,

710
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 4: he's not that guy. But when it's time to work,

711
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 4: you know, like you don't half asked with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Stephen, what's new with what you're working on at ESPN

713
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Speaker 1: dot com in terms of your coverage of the.

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Speaker 4: So I'm writing about this some guy named Jonathan Taylor.

715
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Speaker 4: So he's leading the league in rushing, right. But I

716
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Speaker 4: think the question for me is, or what I think

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Speaker 4: what's interesting for me is there were a couple of seasons,

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Speaker 4: you know, twenty two and twenty three, where you wondered, like,

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Speaker 4: all right, is he.

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Speaker 3: Ever gonna be that guy again?

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Speaker 4: He was good, but he kept getting hurt and you know,

722
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Speaker 4: he had to hold out and all that, and there

723
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Speaker 4: was a moment there where I think he was a

724
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Speaker 4: little bit forgotten maybe nationally, right. We still appreciated him locally,

725
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Speaker 4: but I think nationally people had moved on. Say, Kwon

726
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: Barkley's out there running for two thousand yards, Derrick Henry

727
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Speaker 4: the second act in Baltimore, right, And what Jonathan Taylor

728
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Speaker 4: has shown us last year and already this year is

729
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Speaker 4: that I'm not done yet, Like I'm still that guy.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's pretty remarkable to see good because

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Speaker 4: it doesn't always happen with running backs. A lot of

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Speaker 4: times they flashed in the pan for two or three

733
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Speaker 4: years and then they're never the same guy. This guy

734
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Speaker 4: shows that he is and that's pretty worthwhile.

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Speaker 1: Stevenholder ESPN dot Com appreciate the time. As always, We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you soon, all right, But I want to

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Speaker 1: welcome to the program and to Central Indiana. The new

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Indian Knight, coach Lauren Bertolachi, who

739
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Speaker 1: joins me on the JAVA House Peel and poor guest

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Speaker 1: line and coach. It has been a circuitous route to

741
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Speaker 1: land you in Indianapolis. But let me be amongst many

742
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Speaker 1: to say welcome to Central Indiana.

743
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Speaker 5: Oh, thank you so much. I'm really excited to be

744
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Speaker 5: here and I love it already.

745
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Speaker 1: Now I can tell by the accent you're not from Kentucky,

746
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: so you are Australian. But you most recently have coached

747
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Speaker 1: in Switzerland. Now I want to begin with this. So

748
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Speaker 1: you have coached in Europe. You have had a massively

749
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Speaker 1: successful coaching career there. How does one end up coming

750
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Speaker 1: from Switzerland now to Indianapolis to coach with the Indian Knight.

751
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Speaker 5: Oh good recruiting from India right now, I'm kidding. Listen.

752
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 5: They it's volleyball so big here and it was just

753
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Speaker 5: a matter of time that they were going to be

754
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Speaker 5: kind of both. I feel like I'm stepping a great

755
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Speaker 5: career choice for me and I've landed in a spot

756
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Speaker 5: that very professional and really cares what about volleyball and

757
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Speaker 5: the work they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Here's a really dumb question for you. Okay, I'm almost

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Speaker 1: embarrassed to ask, and it's so dumb, but I've made

760
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Speaker 1: a living coach with dumb questions. It is volleyball. You know,

761
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Speaker 1: you grew up in Australia, you have coached, you know,

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Speaker 1: you've been around, as I'd mentioned you, you know coached

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Speaker 1: in Switzerland, You've been part of a national team, and

764
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Speaker 1: you are a native of Australia and now you come here.

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Speaker 1: Does the game change in different areas or is volleyball

766
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Speaker 1: pretty much the same and stylistically regardless of where you're playing.

767
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Speaker 5: That's actually a very smart question.

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Speaker 7: I would say stylistic changes. Stilistically, it changes a little

769
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Speaker 7: bit country to country. The Let's say look at Japanese

770
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Speaker 7: versus Brazilian volleyball, soyl of coaching different style of play

771
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 7: America and really have their own style as well, So

772
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Speaker 7: there are small styl stylistic differences and the end of

773
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Speaker 7: the day, we still run by the same rules, so

774
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Speaker 7: there are a lot of similarities as well. But I've

775
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Speaker 7: seen a lot of volleyball and I really try to

776
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Speaker 7: blend a lot of different styles and find out kind.

777
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Speaker 5: Of what works best.

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Speaker 1: Had you spent a lot of time in the US

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Speaker 1: before coming here for this job, not at.

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Speaker 5: All Indian as my first stop in the US.

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Speaker 1: Is it really yep? What are your initial impressions.

782
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Speaker 5: I love it here. I live up in Fishes near

783
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Speaker 5: our events center, and I think it's really beautiful. I'm

784
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Speaker 5: here with my dog and she loves all the trailers

785
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 5: and everything, most importantly sport community here. I walked in

786
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Speaker 5: the door and pretty much saw how much everybody cares

787
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Speaker 5: about volleyball and sport. And I can see that everyone's

788
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Speaker 5: really ready to push women's volleyball through the roof. And

789
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Speaker 5: that's pretty much what I'm all about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know you mentioned this when we started

791
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Speaker 1: talking there in terms of and I was surprised by it, coach,

792
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Speaker 1: and I you know, I apologize for that, in the

793
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Speaker 1: fact that I was not dasm for volleyball in this

794
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: area and in a particular and I think it's great

795
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Speaker 1: and I wanted you to touch on this in the

796
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Speaker 1: fact that Lauren Bertolacci is my guest, the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Indian Night the example for young girls, because

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes, you know, the saying is sometimes to

799
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: be something you have to see something, and for young

800
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Speaker 1: girls in this area to see high level volleyball and

801
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Speaker 1: professional volleyball right there as the example as they're just

802
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Speaker 1: starting to play and growing the sport which already has

803
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Speaker 1: a popularity to it. But are you aware of that

804
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: example that you're setting for young people and what it

805
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Speaker 1: can mean to this community.

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Speaker 5: Oh, one hundred percent. I agree with you. We can't

807
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 5: be what we can't see. I think, like I said,

808
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 5: it's been a long time coming that pro volleyball has

809
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 5: come to America and it's a bit of the tip

810
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Speaker 5: of the iceberg. So we show what volleyball is, show

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Speaker 5: how volleyball can change. People have all eyes on us,

812
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 5: and we are the top of the top us, So

813
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 5: we absolutely must understand our influence and understand how many

814
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: young women are going to be watching us every day

815
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Speaker 5: and the way we play, the character that we play

816
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 5: with who we are. I think it's very important and

817
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 5: something we certainly won't take lightly at Indian Nighthame, and

818
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 5: we really wanted to find what professional volleyball is going

819
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 5: to look like in Indiana and hopefully that can sort

820
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 5: of drip down into the huge club scene we have

821
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Speaker 5: here as well. And yeah, I'm very excited for the

822
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Speaker 5: influence that.

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Speaker 1: We can have. By the way, how cool was it

824
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Speaker 1: to live in Switzerland? I've never been, you know. Now,

825
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Speaker 1: let me ask you, actually, coach, let me ask you

826
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Speaker 1: this I need you've got to be. I'm going to

827
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Speaker 1: allow you to be the judge and jury on a

828
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Speaker 1: very important question.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready?

831
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Speaker 5: I am?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm flying coming up in a month here, I'm

833
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Speaker 1: going on a vacation where I have a four hour

834
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Speaker 1: layover in the Geneva, Switzerland airport. That's just a layover.

835
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Speaker 1: Four hour layover. Okay, So I will get off the

836
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Speaker 1: plane and I'll be at the airport. I likely will

837
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Speaker 1: not have time to leave the airport. Can I check

838
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Speaker 1: the box saying that I've been in Switzerland? Or does

839
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Speaker 1: that not count?

840
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Speaker 5: Absolutely does not count?

841
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: Okay?

842
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: Hold on, what if I leave the airport and I

843
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: just go and get a piece of Swiss chocolate and

844
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Speaker 1: then come back into the airport and go back through security.

845
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Speaker 1: Does it then count?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? And that's actually all the gator you got to

847
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 5: get down to the Jeneva like grab a croissant and chocolate.

848
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Speaker 1: How far is that from the airport? Will I have time?

849
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Speaker 1: This is this This is the stuff I really want

850
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Speaker 1: to get to. Will I have time to do that?

851
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, You'll be able to have a little quick stop

852
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: in the city.

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00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, and then then it will count, right,

854
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: it will count Okay. So honestly, though, how did you

855
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Speaker 1: go from Australia to Switzerland and what you know? I

856
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: mean that's a world away obviously? How did that change you?

857
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Speaker 1: How did that grow you? Not only as a coach,

858
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Speaker 1: but maybe as a person as well, to be that

859
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Speaker 1: far from home?

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh ya. I actually left Australia when I was twenty.

861
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Speaker 5: There was no well there is still no professional volleyball

862
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 5: league in Australia, so I want to make my living

863
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 5: from that. It was a necessity to head to Europe,

864
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Speaker 5: so I did, and I think it's it set me

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Speaker 5: on my career path. It's opened all my opportunities. That's

866
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Speaker 5: exposed me to many many different cultures and I don't

867
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Speaker 5: even think i'd be close to the same person that

868
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Speaker 5: I am right now, but it certainly was. It's been

869
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Speaker 5: an amazing twenty years that I've spent in Europe and

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Speaker 5: I think every every journey I've taken it has been

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Speaker 5: really important and wouldn't trade anything.

872
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Speaker 1: And your dog is Swiss, is that right?

873
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 5: Yep?

874
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Speaker 1: My dog Swiss yep, barks in several languages. Then right, that's.

875
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Speaker 5: Impressed, very very very very impressive.

876
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Speaker 1: The one thing I know about Australia and this is

877
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Speaker 1: the biggest stereotype of all time. But many people that

878
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: listen to this show know of my friends that I

879
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Speaker 1: met through the Pacers from Melbourne the ass. They've been

880
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Speaker 1: here for several games. They brought me vegemite on several occasions.

881
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Speaker 1: I pretend, for the sake of you know, not offending them,

882
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Speaker 1: that I really like it, but I find it horrifically

883
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: too salty and gross. Do you like vegamite?

884
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Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean then if you don't like it, you're

885
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Speaker 5: not using it correctly.

886
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Speaker 1: That's what they tell you.

887
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Speaker 5: A little bit of little yeah, a little bit on

888
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 5: the bread and you you're golden. Yeah.

889
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Speaker 1: Well, I have nine pounds of it at home from

890
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Speaker 1: their visits, so if you need any you let me know. Also,

891
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Speaker 1: now they do bring tim tams, however, are awesome Tim Tams.

892
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Speaker 1: I'm down with right.

893
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Speaker 5: I got a dne Comunion copylo.

894
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Speaker 1: And listen, maybe I could get some of the tim

895
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Speaker 1: Tams when I step out to go to the lake

896
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Speaker 1: in Geneva so that I can check Switzerland off the

897
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Speaker 1: box because it's all chocolate, right, I'm curious of this.

898
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Speaker 1: Have you seen Ignite the Fire, which is the Heartland

899
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Speaker 1: Film Festival film about the inaugural season of the Indian

900
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Speaker 1: Ignite and the enthusiasm for them in this community.

901
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Speaker 5: Yep, I've seen it. It was very motivating and really

902
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 5: really impressively done, and they captured the season, so it

903
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Speaker 5: made me even more so.

904
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Speaker 1: It's just so, are you excited to watch this on

905
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Speaker 1: Thursday Gamebridge Field House, the Modern Spike match between Indiana

906
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Speaker 1: and Purdue, Because I do think that you know, here

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Speaker 1: you have two college programs that are from right here

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Speaker 1: in central Indiana that are both nationally ranked, and again,

909
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Speaker 1: I think coach that that kind of illuminates the enthusiasm

910
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Speaker 1: and the skill set for this sport and this area.

911
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're pretty excited to be able to experience

912
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Speaker 1: that coming up Thursday.

913
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think we have pretty close to

914
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Speaker 5: a top twenty matchup right down the road in India

915
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Speaker 5: and in a historic place to watch volleyball for the

916
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Speaker 5: first time. I think it absolutely shows the community that's

917
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Speaker 5: been here for a really long time, hame, but it's

918
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Speaker 5: building and growing and showing with volleyball stands in a match.

919
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Speaker 5: Indiana's having a really good start to their season, and

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Speaker 5: I mean to do it so historically a great team,

921
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Speaker 5: so I'm pretty excited to watch it.

922
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Speaker 1: Twenty second ranked Indiana, twelfth ranked Purdue, lastly coached for

923
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Speaker 1: you guys, the schedule coming up here, because it's going

924
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Speaker 1: to happen quickly now that you're here. I mean you're

925
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Speaker 1: going to basically jump into it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

926
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Speaker 1: Draft coming up for you guys in a couple of weeks,

927
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Speaker 1: then into camp in December, and then everything getting underway

928
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Speaker 1: in January. Correct exactly.

929
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll actually have an official schedule coming out later

930
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 5: this month, and the draft will happen near the end

931
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Speaker 5: of November. Then we'll start our training camp. Draft athletes

932
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Speaker 5: will join us sort of as they finish their programs.

933
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Speaker 5: I can get a little bit of rest, of course,

934
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Speaker 5: because it's a crazy season for them as well. And

935
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Speaker 5: then yeah, early January. Really nice to have our first game.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's awesome, folks. You need to come

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Speaker 1: out and see it. I've mentioned before that Lecator member

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Speaker 1: Mena is one of my favorite athletes in Central Indiana

939
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Speaker 1: because the athleticism is incredible. Coach and certainly look forward

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Speaker 1: to it. Appreciate the time. Welcome to Indianapolis, all right,

941
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Speaker 1: thank you so much.

942
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Speaker 5: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it again. Joining us on the Java House Peel

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Speaker 1: and Poor guest line. She is the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Indian Night Lauren Bertalachi joining us on the show