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Speaker 1: So I mad it. Garrison. Nice to meet you. You're

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Speaker 1: My name is Jake Quarry. It is Quiry Company here

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one zero seven. If you

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Speaker 1: the fan the home now by, by the way, we

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Speaker 1: know a Butler Basketball once again. Welcome Mark Minner and

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Speaker 1: Nick Gardner. That's exactly correct for the upcoming basketball season.

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Speaker 1: That announcement coming earlier this morning on the Fan Morning

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Speaker 1: in what is always a full menu of events taking

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Speaker 1: That means yet another game at minimum. If they are

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Speaker 1: on the radio call for it. You can hear the

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Speaker 1: game on this radio station. And Don joins us now

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Speaker 1: to discuss that and more. And Don, let's begin with this.

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Speaker 1: You know, seven point thirty on a Saturday night against

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Speaker 1: the top ten team at Memorial Stadium. I guess we're

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Speaker 1: becoming a little more used to this than we were

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Speaker 1: of yesteryear. But it never really gets old, does it.

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Speaker 3: No, it does not. It's special when you're on national TV.

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Speaker 3: You're the prime time schedule for that particular evening. And

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Speaker 3: without question, this is something Indiana has rarely if I

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Speaker 3: can't remember the last time we were on NBC, So

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Speaker 3: it's it's been a long time Jake coming and it's welcome. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: we're excited about it, and everybody should be that's an

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Speaker 3: Indiana fan, because this is going to be a real test.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I was listening to the game

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Speaker 1: on Friday night, Don and you guys were kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, joking about you were given a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit to Kobe Martin for the way he was running

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Speaker 1: the football. But obviously at that point Indiana had a

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Speaker 1: sizable lead, they're salting away clock. And yet you know,

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Speaker 1: you made the point and you tipped the cap to

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Speaker 1: the young man of like, look, this kid's running hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's carrying the football, he's playing well. Now

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Speaker 1: there's a situation where Kurt Signetti comes out and says, look,

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Speaker 1: Kobe Martin's one that we will rely on. Perhaps because

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Speaker 1: of the loss to of Lee b B Junior, who

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Speaker 1: had a knee injury. I guess my long winning question

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Speaker 1: would be this, and that is, with the number of

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Speaker 1: backs that were able to get carries, for example, against

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Speaker 1: Indiana State, do you do you feel like there is

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Speaker 1: in fact a lot of depth in that backfield or

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Speaker 1: was it simply the fact that you were going against

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Speaker 1: an opponent with a sizable advantage, and therefore it's still

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Speaker 1: difficult to kind of know how deep you go there.

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Speaker 3: Well, I honestly believe that Kobe will be a constant

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Speaker 3: fixture among the running back room right now. I think

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Speaker 3: he has been in the running back room and in practices.

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Speaker 3: The difference is that now he will be called upon

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Speaker 3: against really good competition, which is obviously what he's not

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Speaker 3: played against in his two years in Indiana. Last year

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Speaker 3: he played in four games, then they red shirted him

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Speaker 3: for the rest of the year, and so he did

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Speaker 3: not face the top ball clubs, or if he did,

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Speaker 3: and maybe I think he played might have played against

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Speaker 3: Nebraska in what a ballgame that you could say was

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Speaker 3: obviously against a competition, although Indiana totally.

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Speaker 1: Dominated them in that ball game.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, he's produced when he's been

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Speaker 3: in there. And there's no question that Urt Signetti loves

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Speaker 3: to rotate running backs, keep them fresh, give them opportunities

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Speaker 3: to run the football and to be fresh when they

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Speaker 3: do come into the ball game. And I don't think

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Speaker 3: that's changed. And Sig said that in the press conference

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Speaker 3: on Monday, that Kobe now moves up into that position

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Speaker 3: that Lee VB had, And my gut is that Kobe

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Speaker 3: Martin's going to see a lot of playing time on

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Speaker 3: Saturday Night.

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Speaker 1: You know, Don, it's interesting because Don Fisher's our guest,

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers. What you just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you know, a year ago, I think kind of the

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Speaker 1: staple of a Kurtz Signetti team was virtually every game

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Speaker 1: that Indiana won last year. You know, after the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: they're up, let's say, three to seven, then at halftime

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Speaker 1: they're up ten to fourteen, and then you know it

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Speaker 1: just they methodically would just pull away from people by

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Speaker 1: never really letting up at all, and they seemed fresh

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Speaker 1: as the game went on. How much of that is

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Speaker 1: because of the benefit of being able to build depth

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Speaker 1: or get guys used to situations in these first three games.

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Speaker 1: In other words, if you were to take a positive

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Speaker 1: from a seventy three to nothing or fifty six to

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Speaker 1: nine whin, it's hard to learn a lot about your team.

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Speaker 1: But is he utilizing those situations to get guys used

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Speaker 1: to just being able to give spell minutes in the

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Speaker 1: big ten?

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Speaker 3: Well, there's no question that's what he's doing. And he's

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Speaker 3: giving guys an opportunity to get reps. That's what he

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Speaker 3: talks about all the time. When you get in a ballgame,

510
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Speaker 3: if you produce, you're going to get more rep going

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Speaker 3: to get more opportunities. And he did that last year

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Speaker 3: with Kobe. Of course, he redshirt and him after he

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Speaker 3: played in the fourth game that he was participating in.

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Speaker 3: But the key here is that he's not totally inexperienced.

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Speaker 3: He's actually going to go in a ballgame knowing what

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Speaker 3: he's done in the past, knowing that the competition may

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Speaker 3: be tougher, and he's probably studied hard this week getting

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Speaker 3: ready for this next matchup, because I'm sure he knew

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Speaker 3: he was going to be the guy called upon as

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Speaker 3: the third back. And it's what Chris Signetti does. And

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Speaker 3: and you know, last year they had so many games

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Speaker 3: that were in the second half. They had total control

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Speaker 3: of it, and so it gave opportunities for a lot

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Speaker 3: of different players. Alberto Mendoza got in last year and

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Speaker 3: got to play in two or three ball games and

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Speaker 3: did well when he was in there, but they weren't

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Speaker 3: called upon to do a lot. Now you're going to

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Speaker 3: be called upon to do a lot, but you're not

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Speaker 3: going in there Green. If you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: You're not going in there as a guy that hasn't

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Speaker 3: had any experience. He's had some. It hasn't been dramatic,

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Speaker 3: but at the same time, he's had reps against good competition,

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Speaker 3: and that tells you something as a coach number one

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Speaker 3: and number two. It gives this guy more confidence when

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Speaker 3: he goes into the ballgame for the first time against

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Speaker 3: a reputable ball club.

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Speaker 1: And man, I'll tell you, don you talk reputable to me.

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Speaker 1: The Big Ten slate is very for Indiana. It's really

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Speaker 1: front loaded and mean to say that there's ever an

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Speaker 1: easy game in the Big Ten. But you look at Illinois,

541
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Speaker 1: at Iowa, at Oregon. I mean, that's a pretty tough slog. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So those three right there is as we go into it,

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Speaker 1: what is the big question mark at this point about

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Speaker 1: this Indiana team. What is the one area that you personally,

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Speaker 1: having watched it and called the plays for them, what

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Speaker 1: is the one thing that you still aren't totally certain

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Speaker 1: as to who they are?

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Speaker 3: Well, I still think that the quarterback position is a

549
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Speaker 3: little bit of a question. Not that the look Fernando

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Speaker 3: Mendoza has all the talent in the world, he got

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Speaker 3: a great throwing arm, he's accurate. He's a guy that

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Speaker 3: can really run the football when he has to pull

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Speaker 3: it down and go. But we haven't seen and I

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Speaker 3: would say this on a limited basis because obviously against

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Speaker 3: the competition they've played, I don't think that he's been

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Speaker 3: tested in that decision making department. Number One, and how

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Speaker 3: will he handle a team that probably is going to

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Speaker 3: be able to come after him a little bit more

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Speaker 3: pressure wise than what these first three ball games proved.

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Speaker 3: So I think those two things are going to be

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Speaker 3: the question on Fernando because he has tremendous talent, He's

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Speaker 3: got lots of experience. He played in California for a

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Speaker 3: couple of seasons as their quarterback. But again, the question

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Speaker 3: is does he make the quick and decisive decisions and

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Speaker 3: the right decisions when he throws that football or tip

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Speaker 3: pulls it down and runs. These are the things that

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Speaker 3: you are going to find out about, I'm sure in

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Speaker 3: this Illinois ball game, and those are the ones. Those

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Speaker 3: are the things brilliant that concern me more than anything else,

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Speaker 3: because I think what we've seen from the rest of

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Speaker 3: this team is pretty dog gone good.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: I do think that Sigg's been a little bit concerned

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Speaker 3: about some of the decisions by defensive backs, because he's

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Speaker 3: talked about that as well as that's still an area

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Speaker 3: where there was a mistake here, a mistake there that

577
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Speaker 3: was pretty costly from a big a standpoint for the

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Speaker 3: other ball club. So right now, those two things would

579
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Speaker 3: pop out at me as being the biggest concerns going

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Speaker 3: into this game.

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Speaker 1: Don have you gotten a chance much? Don Fisher our guest,

582
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Speaker 1: he's the radio voice, of course for the Indiana Hoosiers.

583
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Speaker 1: As if I need to sit you know, give that

584
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Speaker 1: disclaim or you know, like like people don't know that,

585
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Speaker 1: but he's done it for a few years in a

586
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Speaker 1: legendary standpoint. And now you are, Don, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 1: you are the thirty six time Indiana sportscaster of the year.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Close? Close?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Two? All right? Fair enough? So don have you gotten

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Speaker 1: a chance much? You know, whether it be in talking

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Speaker 1: with Kurt Signette or just the staff in general, to

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Speaker 1: really get into an understanding of what Illinois brings to

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Speaker 1: the table and what is intriguing about the ALIGNI as

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Speaker 1: a test for Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Well, I haven't Sig is pretty sig doesn't tell you

597
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Speaker 3: much about the opponent simply because he's not going to

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Speaker 3: divulge anything he thinks might be important to him in

599
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: displaying out there in the field. That gets a team

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Speaker 3: like Illinois. But here's what I do know about Illinois.

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Speaker 3: They're a team or a program really that's a little

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Speaker 3: bit like Indiana not I mean, they've had more they've

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Speaker 3: had more good years of football than Indiana has over

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Speaker 3: the years, but they've not been a great program for

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Speaker 3: a long time. This particular team that Brett Beelam has

606
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Speaker 3: put together is the most experienced team in the Big Ten.

607
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Speaker 3: It may be the biggest team in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: They have like four guys in the offensive line. I

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Speaker 3: believe this is fact three for sure. They have three

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Speaker 3: guys that are six five or taller and weigh three

611
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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five pounds and the other two guys

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Speaker 3: there's one I think that maybe about three hundred and

613
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Speaker 3: then the other guys like three fifteen. This is a

614
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Speaker 3: big offensive line. Where do we come up with that? Well,

615
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Speaker 3: Brett Beila came up with it because he coached Wisconsin

616
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Speaker 3: in this league, and Wisconsin when he was there, had

617
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Speaker 3: the biggest offensive and defensive lines in the conference. So

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Speaker 3: I think he's tried to build this thing with Illano

619
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Speaker 3: a ball club that struggled a little bit through the years,

620
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Speaker 3: and they're not struggling anymore because they had a great

621
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Speaker 3: season last year. They had a good season his first

622
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Speaker 3: season when he came in as the head coach. Indiana

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Speaker 3: beat them in that ballgame that year because they went

624
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Speaker 3: to a prevent defense in the final minute and a

625
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: half and Indiana's quarterback picked them apart right down the field.

626
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Speaker 3: That Indiana ended up winning the game and breaking their hearts,

627
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 3: which is great for us. But nevertheless, Vilama has been

628
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Speaker 3: building this team for the last four years now, and

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Speaker 3: I think he's finally got what he wants and he's

630
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Speaker 3: certainly got the most experienced team in the Big Ten

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, don It's funny because it does not seem

633
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Speaker 1: long ago. And I'm not saying this isn't still like

634
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: something we need to get out there. It wasn't long

635
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: ago that the narrative around Indiana football was like, Hey,

636
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: it's great that alum come down and tailgate and enjoy it,

637
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: but like, please come into the stadium watch the team,

638
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: support the team, and now you know, now you look

639
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: at it, this will be the toughest ticket in town.

640
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean a primetime game under the lights. That atmosphere

641
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: when it's rocking is as good. And you've seen them, right,

642
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: you go around the Big Ten all of a sudden

643
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: snap of the fingers. What a difference a year makes.

644
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: That's as good an atmosphere as there isn't a Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: Agree or disagree? No, I agree with that. You know,

646
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Speaker 1: we don't have the biggest stadium. We've got fifty two

647
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Speaker 1: plus fifty two thousand plus when it's full. But they

648
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: are loud, and they've figured out, you know, how to

649
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: handle themselves in this kind of environment based on what

650
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: we saw last year. Because they sold it out the

651
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: last four games last season. I think all but maybe

652
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: one or two games right now are sold out for

653
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. The Big Ten schedule obviously

654
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: is difficult. Fan base knows that, and I think that

655
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: they want to become a football school. They're still not

656
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: real good at staying around after halftime in games that

657
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: don't mean all that much, which obviously we're talking about

658
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: the three non conference games, and they still mean something

659
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: to the team and to the coaches. They don't mean

660
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: a lot yet to the fan base. And that's the

661
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: one thing I think the fan base has got to learn.

662
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: Your fan base has to support you all the time,

663
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: not just part of the time or not just for

664
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: a half. They need to be out there and provide

665
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: that energy, and if they're not, you're not going to

666
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: get some players who look at size of stadiums and

667
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: the crowds that attend, and some of these guys are

668
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: going to go, well, you know, they may be a

669
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: good football program, but their fan base is not that.

670
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: Big, and you know, I'm going someplace else. And I'm

671
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: not saying that ever. I'm not saying that's in a

672
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: lot of guys thinking. But it does factor in as

673
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: to how kids think.

674
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: And if Indiana wants motivation defensively or tips defense for

675
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: their gaming, it's Illinois. All they have to do is

676
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: look just a little bit to the west and check

677
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: out the game film from Edgewood's shutout of Owen Valley

678
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: thirty four to nothing on Friday night. If I'm mistaken,

679
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: is that right, Don? That is true? That's true.

680
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: Edgewood did win their fourth game without a loss after

681
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: some very limited number of wins over the last five, seven, eight,

682
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: nine years now at Edgewood. But and you know, my

683
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: son's the coach, and I'm going to brag about him

684
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: a little bit.

685
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: He's done a.

686
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: Great job there, and all of a sudden they're four

687
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: to oh this year. But they still got their toughest

688
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: part of the schedule coming up too. So it's not

689
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: like it's just like Kurt Signetti. You can't ever rest

690
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: in your laurels. You've got to basically be ready to

691
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: play every single snap of.

692
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: The game, one game at a time. Right, But so far,

693
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: so good, and for Indiana, we will see if that

694
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: holds true as well. Coming up on Saturday Night seven thirty.

695
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: You can hear the game right here on the fan

696
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: with Don Fisher on the call down. A pleasure as

697
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: always and enjoy certainly on Saturday night, Dada, thanks for

698
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: having me, Don Fisher, the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers.

699
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: All right, we come back. I've got a burning question

700
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: something that happened yesterday that really like kind of upset

701
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: me in terms of near Bloomington. I saw a story

702
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: yesterday and it was one certainly of disappointment, and I

703
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: will share with you what that is because I think

704
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: others will if you it might be kind of a

705
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: niche thing. It might be kind of a niche thing.

706
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: And we have a burning Cults question to get to

707
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes as well. Every once in a while,

708
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: and when I say every once in a while, I

709
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: mean like every other hour, I think of something that

710
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yeah, isn't this common knowledge for like everyone?

711
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, maybe it's just me because I

712
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: have this weakness of just assuming that, like my brain,

713
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: that everybody is like on the same page of it.

714
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: But here's one for you. Yesterday, I'm going on about

715
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: just mining my own business in Central Niana. I'm walking

716
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: around and I'm thinking to myself, Man, Colts and Titans

717
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday, and there's not a lot about

718
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee that really jumps out, and there's you know, the

719
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: Colts seem to be poised for a three and oh start.

720
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, you know, tomorrow, Stephanie White's going

721
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: to come on the show. Meeting today Wednesday, Stephanie White's

722
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: going to be on the show at one thirty, and

723
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: are we going to be talking about the season coming

724
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: to an end? For the fever or what they need

725
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: to do to extend on Thursday night and beat Atlanta

726
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: in advance in the WNBA playoffs. And that's going through

727
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: my mind. And then I'm thinking about a story I

728
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: heard in baseball, and I think, man, I mean, this

729
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: is a prolific accomplishment in baseball, and yet baseball, I

730
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: wonder how relevant this is amongst our listening audience. And

731
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: I'm waiting through all of these things. I thinking about

732
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: Indiana Illinois coming up up seven point thirty on this

733
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: radio station, and the fact that, you know, I'm excited

734
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: that Butler basketball is now on the fan, and I'm

735
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: going through all these things in my head, and then

736
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, boom, I get like a, you know,

737
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: one of these alerts or whatever my phone and I

738
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: look at it and I literally stop and think, holy cow.

739
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: And I have a feeling this is going to be

740
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: one of those stories where you took something for granted

741
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: for the better part of your life and then all

742
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's gone and you're like, I never

743
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: thought it would leave. And you're like, well, I they

744
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: can't take this away. This is like a staple in

745
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: a tradition. And then somebody says, well, how often did

746
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: you patronize it and how often did you support I

747
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I didn't really think about it

748
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: because it just was always going to be there. Well

749
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: maybe that's why it's not anymore. So I'm curious of this,

750
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: and people feel free to tell me if you know

751
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. This might be an example, Eddie,

752
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: of where I mentioned something and literally I'm I'm speaking

753
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: to a vapid tunnel because nobody knows what I'm talking about,

754
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: and maybe this maybe that's the problem. There are two

755
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: ways to get a hold of me and tell me

756
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: whether or not what I'm about to say makes any

757
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: sense whatsoever. The first is you can text this radio

758
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: show as we and I fail sometimes to mention that

759
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: I apologize. Three one seven two three nine one zero

760
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: seven zero the telephone number. You can always call in

761
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: to chime in with the show as well, but you

762
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: can always send me a text at two three nine

763
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: ten seventy. We all at the station can see those texts,

764
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: but only we see it. Don't worry, it doesn't go

765
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: into some public domain. Two three nine ten seventy that

766
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: telephone number, and then my own personal number which I

767
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: also have given out, and like yesterday, you know, was

768
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: on I was on the phone, believe it or not,

769
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: last night for a while because I had mentioned Milwaukee

770
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: at some point and said, you know how much I

771
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: enjoyed Milwaukee, and lo and behold boom, I get a text. Hey,

772
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: fiance and I went to Milwaukee for the weekend. So

773
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: we ended up talking about it for an hour. Three

774
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: one seven five to three ninety two eighty eight. That

775
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: number three one seven five to three ninety two eighty eight.

776
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: But here's what I saw yesterday, and it made me sad.

777
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: And then I thought, maybe I'm maybe I'm weird, maybe

778
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm millen one coming up here in about a month.

779
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: In October is the time of year where, seemingly, at

780
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: least in my childhood, maybe this was just my world.

781
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: Everyone navigates down to Brown County for at the very minimum,

782
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: a Saturday stroll through Nashville or a drive through Brown

783
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: County State Park to see the changing of the leaves.

784
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: It's why Indiana football, for years when they were terrible,

785
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: would get at least one game that would be on

786
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: national television because ABC always wanted the aerials of Memorial

787
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: Stadium because of the beauty of the leaves changing color

788
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: all around it, and so everybody would seemingly in my world,

789
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: and I just assumed this was the case for the

790
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: vast majority of Marion County. Maybe it was just a

791
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: vast majority of people from Steinmeier. I don't know, but

792
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: people would make a pilgrimage down to Brown County and

793
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: one of the staples of that. I couldn't believe it

794
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: when I saw the news yesterday, couldn't believe it. I

795
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: saw it and I thought, am I the only one?

796
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 1: Something's closing that I want to ask about? And we're

797
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: going to get into Eddie's burning question about the colts.

798
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: Will do both. You can even text me when the

799
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: text says this, please fire the blowhard jake dude makes

800
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: no sense? Cool, I get it. And it's not Gray's

801
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Cafeteria and Mooresville. But yes, that also is another one

802
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: that like it was a staple and everybody's like it

803
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: can't go away. I love it. How often you been there?

804
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, like once in a year. Okay, well

805
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: that might be a factor. It's along those lines and

806
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Eddie's burning question about the colts in the AFC South next,

807
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: So we're talking Nashville, Tennessee Colts Titans coming up on Sunday.

808
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: But Nashville, Indiana is what I was talking about with

809
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: Brown County. And again it maybe this was just like

810
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: a late eighties early nineties thing, but in my childhood

811
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: when we would go down as a family, and seemingly

812
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: we did this every year for the usually the second

813
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: weekend in October, and we'd drive down to Nashville. I

814
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: loved Johnny's Sports Nostalgia. Anybody else remember Johnny's sports nostalgia,

815
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: which was you know, I loved it because it was

816
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: I was. I have two sisters, and so my my

817
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: mom and my two sisters would go and go down

818
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: and go to the craft stores and all the things

819
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: that you get down there in Brown County. And so

820
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: johnny Sports Nostalgia was like the guys that, you know,

821
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: the young boys safe Haven to look through baseball cards

822
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: and get a pennant of you know that every team

823
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: and a plastic batting helmet quote unquote, which I always

824
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: got to kick out of it. On the inside it

825
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: would say like do not use an actual batting Yeah.

826
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: I probably could have figured that out, But there in

827
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: the shops, the one staple that I just assumed would

828
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: never go away. Is the Hobnob restaurant, which the Hobnob

829
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: looks like when you go into it, and I always

830
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: as a kid. I mean, obviously, I'm sure I knew

831
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: the difference, but it felt like it had it had

832
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: been there since eighteen ninety. You walk in and it

833
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: was basically fashioned, like an old fashioned drug store with

834
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: an old fashioned soda fountain and you know, handmade sodas

835
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: and molasses cookies. Fabulous, fabulous place. And it's been there

836
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: for it' said forty six years, So it must have

837
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: just been opening when I was a kid, but it

838
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: felt like it had been there forever. And when I

839
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: saw that the Hobnob, they announced yesterday on social media

840
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 1: that they are closing after forty six years. Their lease

841
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: was not renewed. I have no idea what all goes

842
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: into that, but my first thought was, man, I wonder

843
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: like did they go, was business slow or whatever? How

844
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: could that be? It's a staple. And then I thought, well,

845
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: it's a staple like once a year, you know, how

846
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: many people are flying down there in the middle of June.

847
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I have no idea how many people walk around in

848
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: Nashville in the rest of the year. I don't know,

849
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: but it was interesting because when I saw it, I

850
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: thought to myself, holy cow, seemingly everybody will be shocked

851
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: by this news. And then it felt like I was

852
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: one of like ten people that were even aware. So

853
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: maybe I'm maybe I'm speaking into vapid air here, but

854
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: either way, Hobnob Restaurant, Brown County, I think they said

855
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: until November they will still be there and it's going

856
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: to be a must that I'll go down and like

857
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: I said, and there'll be one of those things where

858
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, yeah, I wish I'd come here more

859
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: than maybe it would still be around the Colts getting

860
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: set for the Titans coming up on Sunday. And as

861
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, when you look at this team and

862
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: what the challenges are for the Colts, and to give

863
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: you an update, as of right now, Shaverius Ward is

864
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: still in the concussion protocol. That's an area of concern

865
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: to an extent for the Colts because their defensive backfield

866
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: and you know has obviously been hit hard and Jalen

867
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: Jones you know, being out Now, that's the problem is

868
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: you just don't have the depth in that area. Leatu Latu,

869
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen said, is showing progress, but there still is

870
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: not any word on Leatu Latu's availability coming up on Sunday.

871
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: And realistically, and admittedly I don't know the necessity of

872
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: that per se and I don't mean that you don't

873
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: want to have Leatu latult. Excuse me Leatu Latu, don't mistake.

874
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: But the reality is you can get pass rush on

875
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: Tennessee like Eddie and I might be able to get

876
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: a half sack each. They have given up eleven sacks

877
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: so far through two games. They have lost nearly two

878
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: hundred yards on those sacks alone, one hundred and ninety

879
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: three yards they have. Does Tennessee the worst average of

880
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: yards needed on a third down in the NFL? They

881
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: average nine to go on every third down play. Now

882
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: that's not to say that they're only averaging one yard

883
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: through the first two plays of a possession. What it

884
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: means is the combination of sacks penalties penalties is a

885
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: big one. Is by average putting them in third and

886
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: nine situations, they are thus far a fairly anemic offense

887
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: and one that does not you know you're going with

888
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: a young rookie quarterback that is learning. He's completed fifty

889
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: percent of his passes. There's a little bit of the

890
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson in Indianapolis learning curve going on right now

891
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: in Nashville. As I said earlier, theoretically for the Colts,

892
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: the biggest challenge on Sunday is going to be navigating

893
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: from the hotel to the stadium without getting caught up

894
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 1: in traffic by a bachelorette bus, which then caused Eddie

895
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: to lean all the way back and flail his arms

896
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: wildly doing his fabulous impersonation of the now Eddie, I

897
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: want to know that is that what you whistle when

898
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: the bus goes by? Or is that what you hear

899
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: the bachelorettes? More commonly, that's what I hear on those

900
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: puddle bars. Yes, that is definitely true. And then in

901
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: Nashville it's nothing but just a rents and repeat of Well, Jakes,

902
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: sometimes school buses with where the top has been sought off,

903
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: and it's just it's a disaster.

904
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Jakes, I feel like sometimes, you know,

905
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: I've never been to Nashville, but usually there's another act

906
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: that's going.

907
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: On with the wu, which is.

908
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not gonna say, well, typically it could

909
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: get things may get provocative.

910
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: Okay, well there's a lot of provocative kind of like

911
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: if you're in New Orleans on Bourbon Street, you know

912
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: to get your beads. Yeah, okay, you know, depending on

913
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: the level of consumption, probably adult time of everything, Yes,

914
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: is a factor in this, right, and it's all It's

915
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: never a lot like Broadway itself in Nashville. I do

916
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, nash Vegas, right, I mean, Nashville

917
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: is an awesome city, and I know John was talking

918
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: earlier about whether or not I don't think. I don't

919
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: know if Bulls Eye is doing anything in Nashville per

920
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: se this weekend, but I would imagine there are a

921
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: fair number of Colts fans that are going down just

922
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: because it is a great I mean, Nashville is super

923
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: fun and you could just walk up and down on Broadway.

924
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: There is a little of me that wonders if that

925
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: hasn't somewhat jumped the shark, where people like, at the

926
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: first couple of years when Nashville was a really big thing,

927
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: if people didn't love it and now it's just like, okay,

928
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: like a little goes a long way. But as I

929
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, if you're going to the Titans game, plan accordingly.

930
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: Because the new stadium that they are building for the

931
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: Titans is right next door to the existing stadium. So

932
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: the area that you've always known it at Nissan Stadium

933
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: or whatever it's called this week, literally right next door

934
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: to it is where they are building the new one.

935
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: So I would imagine that has impacted the traffic and

936
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 1: the accessibility. But as the Colts get set for this game,

937
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: Eddie asked a question to me on the way intoday,

938
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, I think the answer is

939
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: a definitive yes, a definitive yes, and I don't see

940
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: how there's going to be variation from that. Okay, Eddie,

941
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: your question that you asked about the Colts in relation

942
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: right now to their game coming up on Sunday.

943
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: I wrote about this leading up to the start of

944
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: the season, Jake, about if the Colts could be, you know,

945
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: just like a sneaky playoff team, you know, the one

946
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: that nobody talks about going into the year, and they

947
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: ended up being, you know, the talk of the town

948
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: across the NFL, and certainly they have been that through

949
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: two weeks. Just the way Daniel Jones has been able

950
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: to play so far. And I look at you know,

951
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 2: sportsbooks and what the odds are out there, the odds

952
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: on favorite. But are the Colts the best team in

953
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: the AFC South? They've got to be right now, right.

954
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: And here's the thing. The NFL season is a long haul.

955
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: Not to overreact after two weeks, obviously, but it's a

956
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: long haul. We've seen and I've covered, I've covered teams. Listen,

957
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning Bursus that year. You were like, yeah,

958
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: this team's cooked, and then boom, they get hot, they

959
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: go on he Ties McNair I think for MVP and

960
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: the rest is history. The year that of the Monday

961
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: Night miracle that we mentioned on Monday this semi on

962
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: rice leaping that year, the Bucks with the defending Super

963
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: Bowl champs, and they literally they were like four and

964
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: zero and just steamrolling people, and then the Colts beat

965
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: them and everything kind of derailed for Tampa. I covered

966
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: the Rams teams that were defending Super Bowl champs and

967
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: got out to a six and oh start and were

968
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: beating everybody by a ga billion points and then they

969
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: go into Kansas City, they get beat and they lose

970
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: seven of their final ten games. It is said, we've

971
00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: seen with this particular team the Carson Wentz year. They

972
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: go and they win in Arizona and it is a

973
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: fada complete bring on the playoffs, and then the wheels

974
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: come off late in the year. There are so many

975
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: things that go on over the course of a year

976
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: that you just don't know about what can happen. Jake,

977
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: the way you're talking about the Colts right now, I'm

978
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: definitely picking the Titans when I placed my bets this weekend.

979
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: That's probably right. But if you were to say who's

980
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: the best team in the AFC South through two games,

981
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: you would say it's the Colts. Yeah, based on the

982
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: record number one, but based also on the fact that, yeah,

983
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: they got gifted one against Denver. Don't get me wrong.

984
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: I mean we are literally one leverage away from us

985
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: sitting here all week talking about how they got to

986
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: get this win against Tennessee because if not, you fall

987
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: to one and two, and YadA, YadA, YadA, they're two

988
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: and zero. You take the win, you move on. But

989
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: Denver's not a bad team, and they dominated Miami. In

990
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: Miami I think is terrible. So there's a little bit

991
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: of uncertainly there. But let's go back and look at

992
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: the other teams in the division. The team there is

993
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: one that I think is the second best team in

994
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: the division.

995
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear, right, And they face each

996
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: other this weekend danver erd On Denverer. Jacksonville and Houston

997
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: face off this weekend battle. Okay, it's gonna get the

998
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: first win. And I think that I don't think Jacksonville

999
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: is as bad as the record. I mean, I get it.

1000
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: You are what your record says.

1001
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: I get it. Look up for me if you could,

1002
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: Eddie Jacksonville's two games, who they played and what the

1003
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: score was they played. You know they played Cincinnati, right,

1004
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: they lost to Cincinnati thirty one twenty seven. I forgot.

1005
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: They beat Carolina week once, so they're one in one now, zho.

1006
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: And two they beat Carolina twenty six to ten. Yeah,

1007
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: so they did against Carolina what you should do, right,

1008
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: They controlled the game. And then against Cincinnati. I know

1009
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: that Burrow got hurt, but I do think Jake Browning's

1010
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: pretty good solid. I mean, he he did throw three picks,

1011
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: I think, but he throws for He's got a big arm,

1012
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: and they've got huge weapons obviously right, So they hung

1013
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: around with which I don't think ten. I don't think

1014
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's terrible. Now Houston is the one. To me, going

1015
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: into the year, you would have said Houston is probably

1016
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: the best or second best team in the South. And

1017
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: it's two weeks. I get it. But the deficiencies that

1018
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: we're seeing right now with Houston seemingly have no answer. Nope.

1019
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: They cannot run the ball, Nope. And you can't win

1020
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You can't win in college, you can't

1021
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: win in high school if you cannot at all run

1022
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: the ball. Now, okay, if you're Warren Central in nineteen

1023
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: eighty six, you're probably okay if you can't run the ball.

1024
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: But in today's NFL, and I know that we've gotten

1025
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: away from the necessity of the running back, the value

1026
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: of the running back, all of those things, right, But nonetheless,

1027
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: if you watch Houston, as I did for almost the

1028
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: entire game the other night, they had CJ. Stroud was

1029
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: basically neutered because you know, and at times his timing

1030
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: looked off, But I think it's because they were able

1031
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: to so easily close gaps against him, because they just

1032
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: dropped everybody back there was no reason at all to

1033
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: put anybody in the box. They cannot run the ball,

1034
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: and if you do, they can't hold up Their offensive

1035
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: line cannot hold up anybody correct, can't block anybody. That,

1036
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: no doubt, no question about it. So I you know,

1037
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: like I said, and then and I do think that

1038
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: Houston defensively is pretty good. But even with that, late

1039
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: in that game, when Tampa needed to go down and score,

1040
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: they went right down the field and scored. And I

1041
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: think Houston's defense was partially just worn out, because now

1042
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: why are they worn out? Because once CJ. Stroud got

1043
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: them the lead, they didn't have any way to salt

1044
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: the clock away none. So Tennessee, I think we know.

1045
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: Does anybody know definitively anything about who Tennessee is, the

1046
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: Only thing we know is that they basically are where

1047
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: the Colts were two years ago. They have a young, athletic,

1048
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: very intriguing quarterback, one that I think coming out of

1049
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: college has I'd have to look how many starts he

1050
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: had in college, but it feels like he's got more

1051
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: ready like NFL ready to go. Just he needs polish

1052
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: as opposed to complete, like starting from scratch. But the

1053
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: Titans just had so many have so many holes all

1054
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: around that it's very difficult to determine who and what

1055
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: their identity is because they're the Titans. Look a lot

1056
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: like symbolically, if you go to Nashville and you go

1057
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: to the game, and you're driving to the stadium. And

1058
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: I know this because the IndyCar Grand Prix of Nashville

1059
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: or whatever we called it, that we did the two

1060
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: years on the street course went right around the stadium.

1061
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: The paddock area, the medical or you know, tent and

1062
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: everything else was all right there, right next to the stadium.

1063
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: And if I want to say directly to the east

1064
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: of the stadium, but my geography could be off, but nonetheless,

1065
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: right between the stadium and the river there was was

1066
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: this parking lot and this huge area and that's where

1067
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: that was the main stretch of the IndyCar circuit. And

1068
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: then we had to move to the Oval because they said, yeah,

1069
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: Nashville's building a new stadium, and that new stadium is

1070
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: right there butted up against Nissan Field right there, and

1071
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: if you drive in into the stadium, there is a

1072
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: symbolism to the eye of the Tennessee Titans because you

1073
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: see right before you the building process of what's going

1074
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: to be the future. How big and how beautiful a future,

1075
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's right there before your very eyes.

1076
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: And then on the right hand side is the current stadium,

1077
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: which has like large pictures of Steve McNair and Eddie

1078
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: George and reminders of the past. But it's time to

1079
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: move forward. And I've always said, and this was one

1080
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: of the things, one of the things that fascinates me

1081
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: about the NFL, you can tell the state of a

1082
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: franchise by the number of current jerseys that are being

1083
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: worn at the game. For example, Eddie, give me a

1084
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: franchise off the top of your head, what sport NFL? NFL,

1085
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders, Okay, the Raiders. If you go to a

1086
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: Raiders game right now, you walk in, you go out

1087
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: to Vegas. Now, in Vegas it's a lot like Nashville.

1088
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: You might see a bus of a bachelorette party in

1089
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: Vegas going down, going down the boulevard, and what might

1090
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: you hear? Right, but if you go to a Raiders game,

1091
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: what would you guess is the first jersey you see

1092
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: when you walk in. Honestly, you go to a Raiders game,

1093
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders come to Indianapolis and there's Lynch. Yeah, I

1094
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: mean Tim Brown, Amari Cooper. That's not bad. Khalil Mack, Okay,

1095
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: that's a good one. But again Khalil Mack. Now where Chargers. Yes,

1096
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: so you get players that I'm trying to figure of

1097
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: who it would even be for the but the state

1098
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: of their Like what current Raider is the one that

1099
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: everybody's weren't a jersey of Max Crosby. Yeah, that's a

1100
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: good one. That's good. That's a really good one. Ashton

1101
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: Genty probably that because he's the up start rookie. Right.

1102
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: But you can always tell when you go to a

1103
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: Colts game and they're playing, you know, this year, for example,

1104
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: the Colts are gonna have a home game against the Falcons, Right,

1105
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: what are you gonna have like a bunch of people

1106
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: walking around like in Michael Vick jerseys. That's Matt Ryan jersey.

1107
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: Oh in Berlin, that's right. Yeah, but still people that

1108
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: are going to Berlin, I mean, how many of them

1109
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: may be a Michael Pennick jersey. Maybe maybe a Drake

1110
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: Lendon Jerseyjean Robinson, Bijon or Robinson. But you can tell

1111
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: the state of a franchise by the number of former

1112
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: players that people are wearing their jersey and for the Titans,

1113
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, Roddy White, totally, Tony Gonzalez. I love going

1114
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: to Colts games and I'm happy for this. Now you're

1115
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: starting to see more. There's some Jonathan Taylor jerseys for sure.

1116
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: Michael Turner is that his name? Running back boy? I

1117
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: forgot about him? He was a two thousand Was he

1118
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: a two thousand year was back in college? I don't know.

1119
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois, is that right? DeVante Freeman, Tevin Coleman, Tevin Coleman,

1120
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: baby Prod Hoosier. But back to my point, friend of

1121
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: the show, when you go to a Colts game, now,

1122
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm happy to see that you have people that are

1123
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: walking in wearing Jonathan Taylor jerseys, or you see an

1124
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: occasional Alec Pierce jersey, a lot of Pittman jerseys. You know,

1125
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: we went through a period there where every time you

1126
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: went to a game, all you saw was Marvin Harrison,

1127
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Dwight Friandie. Robert mathis walking around.

1128
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: One thousand, nine hundred and fifteen yards junior season for

1129
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: Michael Turner. Yet I don't know why I'm thinking this.

1130
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: Oh brock Bowers, Yes, would be for the Raiders. For

1131
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: uh northern Illinois. You are correct, Uh, yeah, brock Bowers.

1132
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: All the mailman just chimed in, how could you possibly

1133
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 2: forget brock Powers. Yeah, that was a major oversight by us,

1134
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: but you get my point. But I think the Colts

1135
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: right now, back to the original question, not only are

1136
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: they on top of the standings in the AFC South,

1137
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: and you don't want to put the cart before the horse,

1138
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: but they are in good position to be able to

1139
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: hold on to that, just based on schedule. Because if

1140
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: they're able to beat Tennessee and you're three to zero,

1141
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: then you look at the if you break it down

1142
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: by three, you look at their three games after that,

1143
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: you go to La and take on the Rams. That's

1144
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 2: a tough game, but then back to back home games

1145
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: that you like the Raiders and the Cardinals. I mean,

1146
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: could they start out five and one? I said ten

1147
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: and seven at the beginning of the year, and it

1148
01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 2: seemed lofty and ludicrous, right. I didn't think was lofty

1149
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: your Ludacris. I just felt like there was a wide

1150
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: range of outcomes, like it could be a smashing success

1151
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: or it could be a collapse in a total failure.

1152
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: This from Ralph at two through nine, ten seventy. Hey, Jake,

1153
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: can you do the British voice? You do? Now? I

1154
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: have two British guys. I've got the old, confused British

1155
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: guy and I've got the young, upstart British guy. It

1156
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: just depends on which one you want. Do you like

1157
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: the batles? I mean, I got that guy and I

1158
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: just I did not expect that's the other guy. But

1159
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: it's hard to do on demand. That's the thing. It's

1160
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: it's hard to do on demand, you know what I mean? Yeah, confused,

1161
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: my But I do like the coats, not necessarily the batles.

1162
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: Stephanie White is the head basketball coach of the Indiana Fever.

1163
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: They had a big one last night, and that was

1164
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: a game they had to win. That was as good

1165
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: an atmosphere as you could ask for. Kudos to the

1166
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: crowd that was there. They were loud, they were I

1167
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: think they were energetic. I think they lifted them and

1168
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: I think that there might be something happening within that

1169
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: roster that came about almost serendipitously, because this is a

1170
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: team that in one year and I'm not sitting here

1171
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: trying to carry their water. But in one year, with

1172
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: what that team has had to go through, it would

1173
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: be fabulous to see them extend and advance beyond Tomorrow night.

1174
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: They are now in a must win situation again against Atlanta.

1175
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: It takes place tomorrow night in Atlanta, and it would

1176
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: be easy to say so far mission accomplished, but obviously

1177
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: they want to continue it forward. Lots of questions for

1178
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: Stephanie White, She joins us. Next, the Indiana Fever will

1179
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: head down to Atlanta for a decisive must win game

1180
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: number three against the Dream tomorrow night. That because of

1181
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: their win last night seventy seven sixty over Atlanta, their

1182
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: head coach is kind enough to am sure during what

1183
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: is a very busy time, give us a little bit

1184
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: of time today, and we are so appreciative of it.

1185
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: We were actually willing to play justin Timberlake by her request.

1186
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie right, that's right, okay, Stephanie White

1187
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: joins us on the program. Coach, First off, congratulations on

1188
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: the win last night.

1189
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 4: Thanks, it was a good one.

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 5: We you know, we enjoyed playing in front of our

1191
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 5: home crowd certainly, but our team came out and you know,

1192
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 5: backs against the wall and we're able to come away

1193
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 5: with a win.

1194
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to this. You and I talked,

1195
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I was asking you just about

1196
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: offenses and offensive sets, and you kind of laughed and said,

1197
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: you know that you're kind of old school there, Jake,

1198
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: because things are a little bit more free flow now

1199
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: within the game and the way that we do things.

1200
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: When you look at your offensive efficiency last night and

1201
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: notably I thought you shot the wall better from the outside,

1202
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: how much of that is designed off of making tweaks

1203
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: to a scheme and how much of that is Jake,

1204
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: We don't make any tweaks at all. It just happens

1205
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: within the flow. And it was a matter of just

1206
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: making sure that we are taking advantage of open opportunity.

1207
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 5: I think some of adjusting to coverages and how Atlanta

1208
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 5: likes to play and spacing. I think the other piece

1209
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 5: is the willing to get to the next action, right

1210
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 5: the second, third, fourth actions on the floor.

1211
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 4: You know, they're the number two defensive team in the.

1212
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 5: WNBA for a reason, and so we have to have

1213
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 5: a willingness to do it. And at the end of

1214
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 5: the day, we got to make shots.

1215
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: Is this coach and you've been around basketball a long time,

1216
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: whether it's a player at the college level, the professional level,

1217
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: coaching for different franchises, does this team have as much

1218
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: resilience as any that you've been around it?

1219
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 6: Does?

1220
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 5: I mean, this is a group that has continued to

1221
01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 5: be able to be flexible, be resilient, have toughness. And

1222
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 5: the amount of situations that we've been through throughout the

1223
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 5: course of the year, the amount of different personnel that

1224
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 5: this group has had to adjust to, I think it

1225
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 5: just speaks volume. And and you know, when you when

1226
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 5: you when you go through the things that we've gone through,

1227
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 5: you build strong cultural roots and and I think you know,

1228
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 5: regardless of of of what comes of how far we're

1229
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 5: going to to be able to go this season, the

1230
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 5: roots that we've grown and the ability that we've had

1231
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 5: to be able to get through multiple situations is going

1232
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,520
Speaker 5: to continue to pay dividends for our franchise.

1233
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: I was mentioning this earlier Stephanie White, our guest, the

1234
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: head coach of the Fever. I don't know that I've

1235
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: seen a team that I've you know, followed over the

1236
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: course of a year that has had to deal with

1237
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: the personnel changes like this one as you just talked about,

1238
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: and key players going down and then for that matter,

1239
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: replacement PA replacement am using in air quotes, but but

1240
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, other players going down and just a constant rotation.

1241
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: So what my question is is this, do you have

1242
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: because of the fact that you have players that are

1243
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: giving you minutes right now that did not start out

1244
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 1: on your roster and were players that probably at the

1245
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: beginning of the WNBA season wondered if their career was

1246
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: even going to take them into the WNBA this year,

1247
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: and now they're in a situation like that. Has that

1248
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: allowed coach for a resiliency to seep in because you

1249
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: have players on the roster that are able to say

1250
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: to themselves, this isn't even the worst thing that I

1251
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: faced this season. I had to dip, you know, dig

1252
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: deep down as a player just to get back into

1253
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: a roster. So therefore this is all gravy to me.

1254
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: Has that mentality seeped into those players that you began with,

1255
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: you know.

1256
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's if it's that mentality necessarily

1257
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 5: or the mentality of just the opportunity that's that's in

1258
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 5: front of them.

1259
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 4: You know, yes, it's that there.

1260
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 5: Have been various journey uh to get to this point,

1261
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 5: and certainly when you have not been in the league,

1262
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 5: there is a hunger and a desire to prove yourself

1263
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 5: and and and so that that that helps. Certainly from

1264
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 5: a competitive standpoint, you know, certainly, I would imagine with

1265
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 5: every player in our league right now, there is a

1266
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 5: desire to prove yourself with a new CBA and expansion

1267
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 5: teams coming, you know, day in and day out. But

1268
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 5: I don't get the sense that collectively with this group,

1269
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 5: that that that's it right now.

1270
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 4: I think the sense that I get.

1271
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 5: Is that this group really enjoys one another. This group

1272
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 5: really wants to do it for one another. You know.

1273
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 5: Certainly ego is UH and is a part of everybody's journey.

1274
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 5: That's why they're the.

1275
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 4: Best in the world.

1276
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: Now, did Stephanie just go through a tunnel? Etty? I

1277
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I just said, nope, you're done. She was

1278
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: talking about journey and then the call dropped. Do you

1279
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: think the journey actually took her? I'd like to know.

1280
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: Is she made you ever driven? Like in West Virginia,

1281
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: you're driving all of a sudden, you just you go

1282
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: through a tunnel in one of those hills. But that

1283
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: sounded like it was on our end, actually, But I

1284
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: believe speaking of journeys, we're speaking of journeys, Coach. We're

1285
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: gonna continue the journey right where we were. So you

1286
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: were just talking about the overall resiliency and the collection

1287
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: of resiliency within the team.

1288
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I just think that this is a group

1289
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 5: that really pulls for one another. That there that they've

1290
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 5: come together and and and they've they've seen different circumstances

1291
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 5: and they just pull for one another. And right now

1292
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 5: they're playing for a bigger purpose, something bigger than themselves.

1293
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned this when you look at and

1294
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about this, but the well, it

1295
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: feels like we're on the precipice right now. And a

1296
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: big part of this has to do with some aspects

1297
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: of your roster, But it feels like we're on the

1298
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: precipice of this kind of breakthrough within like the collective

1299
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: bargaining agreement and new television contracts and revenue, and obviously

1300
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 1: that was a big topic of discussion the beginning of

1301
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: the year. You yourself being somebody who was a player,

1302
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: who was a champion of women's sports. How do you

1303
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: balance the necessity and the understanding of all of the

1304
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 1: players individually trying to grow that brand while at the

1305
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: same time keeping focus on the team aspect of what

1306
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: the goal is in mind.

1307
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think for us, we talked about

1308
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 5: this at the beginning of this year. You know, how

1309
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 5: how do we how do we use because every every

1310
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 5: single one of us, who is who is competitive and

1311
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 5: who wants to be the best at what we do,

1312
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 5: every single one of us has an ego. You know,

1313
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,919
Speaker 5: how do you use that ego to fuel your individual's success,

1314
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 5: but also how do you shell that ego for the

1315
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 5: betterment of a team? And you know, not everybody can

1316
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 5: do it. That's why it's important to get the right

1317
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 5: group around them. But in terms of the bigger picture

1318
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 5: of the league. Yeah, I mean, I was a part

1319
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 5: of the very first collective bargaining agreement in the w

1320
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,520
Speaker 5: NBA as a player, where all we wanted was insurance

1321
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 5: for the entire year and not just not just for

1322
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 5: the season. Uh, to where they are now and and

1323
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 5: you know, certainly fighting for for higher salaries and and

1324
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 5: and and other things as well. Uh, you know, it's

1325
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 5: it's really important to to have great leadership that understands

1326
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 5: you know where you are and what you deserve, but

1327
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 5: also understands you know how you're setting this league up

1328
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 5: for success and the longevity of the league. And there

1329
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 5: were plenty of players who had to sacrifice early in

1330
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 5: their careers who aren't playing anymore for the league to

1331
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 5: get to where it is. Just like these players will

1332
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 5: be sacrificing something for the league.

1333
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,839
Speaker 4: To continue to propel and move themselves forward.

1334
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of information and and there

1335
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 5: are a lot of great resources, and and and both

1336
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 5: sides certainly understand the pivotal moment that we're in.

1337
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: I thought you guys did a really good job last night,

1338
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: coach of kind of limiting or keeping in check Atlanta's

1339
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: perimeter play and notably they're outside shooting. Did you make

1340
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: adjustments in that area?

1341
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think.

1342
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 5: Our attention to detail was better. You know, we did

1343
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 5: a good job of limiting their opportunities from the three

1344
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 5: point line at place we just put them on the

1345
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 5: free throw line too much.

1346
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 6: You know.

1347
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 5: The keys for us in our success against Atlanta, in particular,

1348
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 5: they gotta they got to hit under eight threes, and

1349
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 5: they got to stay off the free throw line less

1350
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 5: than fifteen free throw attempts. We did both of those.

1351
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,759
Speaker 5: We were much more disciplined defensively. When they were driving

1352
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 5: to the rim, they do a really good job of

1353
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 5: initiating contact, and I thought we did a really good

1354
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 5: job of staying disciplined and not fouling and not giving

1355
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 5: into that contact.

1356
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1357
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 5: So we were much more disciplined at the point of

1358
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 5: our ball screen coverages, of our off ball coverages. We

1359
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 5: were disruptive. They're a good team, and we know we're

1360
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 5: not gonna limit everything, but those two in particular have

1361
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 5: to continue to be a point of emphasis.

1362
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: Can there be benefit from getting technical fouls?

1363
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess if.

1364
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 5: It causes momentum changes in your way, there could be benefits.

1365
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: Have you ever intentionally gotten one?

1366
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say intentionally.

1367
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 5: I would say that there are times where I sense

1368
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 5: that momentum could be could be gained from it. You know,

1369
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 5: there are times where where I just you know, I

1370
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 5: go a little too far. But no, I wouldn't say that,

1371
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 5: I'm like planned most of the time to get to

1372
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 5: get technical foul.

1373
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: Do you have a magic phrase that you know will

1374
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: get you one.

1375
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 4: Like us, we're definitely.

1376
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: Every time or just like not every.

1377
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 4: Time anything, if it happens over and over and over.

1378
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 5: Again, satisically that that's resulting in one.

1379
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Well that's kind of you know that.

1380
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not. That

1381
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: happens in my line of work. Also, like if I

1382
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: use it, I get in trouble.

1383
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 4: Also, right, do you get fined as well?

1384
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good question. I'd rather not find out.

1385
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: You know, what's funny, I don't know if you were

1386
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: like this growing up. What's what's funny to me is

1387
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, and this is kind of

1388
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: what it's like being on the radio. You know this.

1389
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: You've done a lot of media work, Stephanie. But like

1390
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm around my buddies and I mean it's you're like sailors, right,

1391
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: It's just like when you were in high school. When

1392
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: I was in high school, I'd be around my buddies

1393
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: playing pick up basketball, doing whatever, and I mean every

1394
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: other word we're swearing. And then you get home and

1395
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,879
Speaker 1: you sit in front of your parents and it doesn't

1396
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: even enter into your imagination, right, it's no party, Les

1397
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 1: and the same happens kind of when you're on the radio.

1398
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: I have no idea how I honestly, I don't know

1399
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: how it doesn't slip into it. I'm knock on wood right,

1400
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 1: so I don't know if I'd get fined or not.

1401
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: I think I could. I don't want to find out.

1402
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, it's the same way. It's like and when

1403
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 4: I'm in in you know, sport in practice.

1404
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 5: In season, it's much more frequently flying around. It very

1405
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 5: rarely happens out of season. Steph.

1406
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: Last night, Aliah Boston has the layup less thantens Exico

1407
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: third quarter, you get the steal, and then Lexi hits

1408
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: the big three in the crowd just goes absolutely nuts.

1409
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: A moment like that wouldn't have happened, you know, in

1410
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: previous years because of the way that the format was

1411
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: for the WNBA playoffs. What did you think of that

1412
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: moment last night as somebody who's been a part of

1413
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 1: this state for so long, and seeing the crowd get

1414
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: as lively as it was there at the end of

1415
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:57,919
Speaker 1: the third quarter.

1416
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 4: Going into the fourth, it was incredible, you know.

1417
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 5: I think it felt very much like it did.

1418
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 4: In twenty fifteen when.

1419
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 5: We were playing, I believe it was New York in

1420
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,919
Speaker 5: the semi finals, you know, to go to the finals.

1421
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 5: So we had a possession where where Breon January took

1422
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 5: a charge right in front of our bench and it

1423
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 5: was a momentum changing possession and the crowd erupted, and

1424
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 5: it just it felt very much like that. It was incredible.

1425
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm so you know, thankful that our fans

1426
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 5: got an opportunity to get get that playoff game. It's

1427
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 5: been a long time coming, you know, our players delivered.

1428
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 5: We certainly want to have an opportunity to play some more,

1429
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 5: but that was a really special moment.

1430
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: I think it's really cool as well to see the

1431
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: reciprocal support. And I see it even you know during

1432
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: when the Pacers, like at Thanksgiving time when they do

1433
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: the you know, our house meal for the less fortunate

1434
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: at Gamebridge, and you see both the Pacers and Fever

1435
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 1: players that are there, the Fever players that are in

1436
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: town at that time, and you know, seeming to Aris

1437
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: Haliburton at the game yesterday, and then obviously always seeing

1438
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark in different Fever player at Pacers games. Do

1439
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: you think that's common for most of the franchises that

1440
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: crossover not just support and respect, but friendship.

1441
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 5: I think it's starting to become common. You know, there

1442
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 5: are a lot of these players from a young age

1443
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 5: have interacted with one another where whether it's through USA

1444
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 5: Basketball clubs for you know, there's much more integration of

1445
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 5: where these tournaments are, where these where these these players

1446
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 5: connect from the high school level to the college level

1447
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 5: and and then at the pro level. So I do

1448
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 5: think that it's it's continuing to become more common. They've

1449
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 5: they've had relationships, they're continuing to build relationships. There's such

1450
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 5: a mutual respect for what one another does at the

1451
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 5: highest level every single day and how you have to

1452
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 5: prepare and and it is a very small community of

1453
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 5: professional athletes, and so I think it's it's always been sporadic,

1454
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 5: but now it's becoming much more, much more common in mainstay.

1455
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm serious of this. As a as a basketball

1456
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:07,919
Speaker 1: coach who also has done radio and television basketball media,

1457
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: do you find that you more often when you are

1458
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: doing the media side of it, that you are critically

1459
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: analyzing the coaching because you wear that hat as well.

1460
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: Or do you find that when you are a coach

1461
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: doing media like this that you are more critically wearing

1462
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: the hat of the media person because you do that.

1463
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 4: Also, No, I don't think so.

1464
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 5: I think what I try to do is really dive

1465
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 5: into to what the coach would be thinking if I'm

1466
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 5: calling a game, like what would they be thinking from

1467
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 5: a game plan standpoint, from an adjustment standpoint.

1468
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 4: It's time and score situation standpoint.

1469
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 5: And then when I'm on this side, you know, empathizing

1470
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 5: sometimes with with you know, as coaches, sometimes it's like,

1471
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 5: oh gosh, that's that why why are we asking that question?

1472
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 5: But then empathizing with with hey, like, listen, this is

1473
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 5: just because I know the information. Doesn't mean everybody else does, right,

1474
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 5: somebody's hearing it for the first time, and so just

1475
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 5: having the two perspectives, you know, hopefully allows me to

1476
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 5: look at it from from that viewpoint so that we

1477
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 5: no matter what, we can give the viewer, the audience,

1478
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 5: the team, whomever it might be, give them, you know,

1479
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 5: what we're looking for, and give them a unique perspective.

1480
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: What percent of the time when we're when you're on

1481
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: this show, do you think to yourself, oh gosh, why

1482
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: are we asking that question?

1483
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, oh gosh, what's going to come out of

1484
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 4: Jake's mouth?

1485
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 5: Like where we asking fifteen fifty?

1486
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 6: Is it going to be?

1487
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: Is it fifty to fifty?

1488
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 5: I mean, like I was anticipating a little bit when

1489
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 5: you were talking about the Journey that we were going

1490
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 5: to go into eighties rock again.

1491
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: Did you like Journey by the way?

1492
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 4: I did like Journey?

1493
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Journey's pretty cool. Journey was cool. Listen. I

1494
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: mean you threw me for a curve ball with Steve

1495
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: Miller though, because that you know what I mean, Like,

1496
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: I just I just anticipate you being strictly nothing in

1497
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: high school but a country music fan. So I was

1498
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: impressed when you threw Steve Miller out there and justin.

1499
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I was an athlete.

1500
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 5: I'm I was an athlete, so you know I wasn't

1501
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 5: just growing up on the farm listening to country music. Right.

1502
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: Well, but I you're.

1503
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 5: Limiting You're limiting my experience now.

1504
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: Listen. I'll be honest with you when I when I

1505
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: think about you, like getting ready for a big game

1506
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: at secret high school as an athlete, I think of

1507
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: you as being like Rocky Balboa, like you were like,

1508
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, climbing up like you know, what I mean,

1509
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: like you were doing I had a tiger. Yeah, I mean,

1510
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: like pulling a plow, you know what I mean. I

1511
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: mean like those sorts of things like I think like

1512
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: you were basically an Amish athlete is the way I

1513
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: work at it.

1514
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see that.

1515
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, let's be honest, it's not like

1516
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 1: you were on Michigan Aulllete School. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

1517
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different than Indianapolis North Central, but

1518
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 1: not I mean you were a hell of them, not

1519
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: a lot, but a lot better player than I was.

1520
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: That's for sure, no question about it, all right, coach. Lastly,

1521
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: you know the obvious here, and that is I know

1522
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: that you want to win this game, and I know

1523
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: that at this point. It's kind of like you know,

1524
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: Norman Dale says in Hoosiers, like we've gone over everything

1525
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: at this point. But when you do go into a

1526
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: game that you know, if it doesn't go your way,

1527
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: that then this group may never be together in its

1528
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: totality again, et cetera. What is the mindset going in?

1529
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: How do you keep a group focused on the job

1530
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: at hand and not looking beyond the stakes of it.

1531
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 5: Well, look, most of the players in our locker room

1532
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 5: have been through that part of it before. It's it's

1533
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 5: nearly never the same group no matter what at you know,

1534
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 5: at the beginning, the ending of a season, the beginning

1535
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 5: of the next season. You know, I think for this

1536
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 5: group in particular, we have been our best when our

1537
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 5: back is up against.

1538
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 4: The wall, and this group has just.

1539
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 5: Is just focused on doing the job at hand. And

1540
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 5: you know, I think for me, when I think about

1541
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 5: the opportunity that we have in front of us, I

1542
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 5: mean the pressures not on us, right, you know, we're

1543
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 5: the lower seed. We force a game three. We know

1544
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 5: what we have to do in order to take the

1545
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 5: next step and to get to another series and to

1546
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 5: continue our quest for a championship. And and we want

1547
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 5: to embrace every moment that we have because this has

1548
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 5: been such a special request group, because we do know

1549
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 5: how to fight and call and scrape and scrap for

1550
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 5: one another, and because we've enjoyed the moments together.

1551
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie, coach White coached in Nashville, lives

1552
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,719
Speaker 1: and spends a lot of time in Nashville. Coach Eddie

1553
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: has come up with what he believes to be the

1554
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: masterful impersonation of the sound of every bachelorette party on

1555
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: the back of a bus going down Broadway. Go ahead, Eddie,

1556
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: hit it. Okay, does that sound about right?

1557
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 4: That's accurate.

1558
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: That's basically the ambient noise of Nashville, Tennessee.

1559
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, it sure is, and you have to hear

1560
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 5: it over the loud speakers and the singing the karaoke

1561
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 5: Oh yes, totally.

1562
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: All right. Lastly, next musical request would.

1563
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 4: Be, who oh wow, let's see.

1564
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 5: You know, I went JT and I did. Used to

1565
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 5: be a big in sync fan, So maybe we'll have

1566
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 5: to go back to nineties boy bands.

1567
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: Okay, we could do Backstreet Boys in sync. You know,

1568
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: you name it right. But here's the thing. The reason

1569
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: I asked is because I'm putting you on the hook

1570
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: for next week because you guys are going to win

1571
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 1: and you're going to continue to have games to talk about.

1572
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 4: That's right, Let's go, all.

1573
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: Right, appreciate it, coach, best of luck. All right, all right,

1574
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: Stephanie White joining us from the Indiana Fever. Eddie, your

1575
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: reaction to that interview would be, but that's your cue?

1576
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: What are you talking about. I'm just trying to get

1577
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 2: you to do your bus sound effect again. I don't

1578
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: have a bus sound effect your batslorette sound effect. We'll

1579
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: see Stephanie is prominently featured in a book from one

1580
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: of Indianapolis's more known writers, and he's going to join

1581
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: us in about twenty five minutes. We'll get back into

1582
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 2: our Colts Question of the Day next, our Colts Question

1583
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: of the Day coming up top of the hour just

1584
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: about five minutes from now, and Shane Steichen's thoughts on

1585
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 2: I thought he had a very interesting comment, very interesting

1586
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: comment recently within the last hour about Daniel Joan.

1587
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: We'll get into that. I did want to ask this Eddie.

1588
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I will ask you, Eddie

1589
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: to keep me in check. I know somebody said earlier

1590
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: that I'm the blowhard, right well, I feel like it's

1591
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: part of my job title. I that's Jake in check.

1592
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking at headlines yesterday, right and I see the

1593
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: headline of a feat of a major league baseball player, okay,

1594
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: And initially I was confused by the headline because I'm like,

1595
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: what does that city have to do with baseball? And

1596
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: then I pull up the article and I'm very impressed

1597
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: by the feet and that is that Ham Raleigh of

1598
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: the cal or cal excuse me, yeah, exactly to my

1599
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: point here of the Seattle Mariners hit, I believe, what

1600
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: fifty five home runs? Fifty five and fifty six yesterday? Right, Yes,

1601
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: that is true. And I actually had to jog my

1602
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: memory when I saw the headline Raleigh, you know, and

1603
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: then I pull up the article. It wasn't like I

1604
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: automatically was like, oh, yeah, I mean cal Raley of course,

1605
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: not talking about North Carolina, right and that. So when

1606
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,919
Speaker 1: I saw the article, it was like, you know, Raleigh

1607
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: sets record or whatever, and I'm like, what does Raley

1608
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: have to do with baseball? It didn't immediately associate in

1609
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: my mind. And for that matter, I mean right there,

1610
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: I had the Freudian slip of Can versus col Right,

1611
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: I know, big dumpers the nickname, but I immediately thought

1612
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: to myself, there was a time where the fifty home

1613
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: run plateau in general was remarkable. Foster did it, and

1614
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: then you didn't have it again until Cecil Fielder did it.

1615
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: And then obviously in the home run Derby's of you know,

1616
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: up into ninety eight, you had you know, Brady Anderson's

1617
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: doing it, and you know, clearly McGuire and Sosa in

1618
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: the pursuit of sixty one was so big, and some

1619
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: of the players that randomly were popping up with these

1620
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: huge years. I think Ron Gant had a year maybe

1621
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 1: where he hit close to fifty. And now it's a

1622
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: little more ordinary. Not ordinary is the wrong word, but

1623
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: it's it's a little more Kamio Schwarber just did it. Obviously,

1624
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,759
Speaker 1: you have fifty players in the history of the sport,

1625
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: fifty one fifty three players that have hit over fifteen

1626
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: the season, and how many of those have been in

1627
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,799
Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. Ah, that's a great question.

1628
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: But my question is this, The fact that cal Raley's

1629
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: name did not immediately recognize to my brain that he

1630
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: is a Seattle Mariner catcher, and the fact that like

1631
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 1: if he walked into my house, I wouldn't immediately recognize

1632
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 1: him by vision? Is that egregious on my behalf? What

1633
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: percent of sports fans do you think know who he is?

1634
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: M think about it and tell me on the other side,

1635
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: and then we'll get to our Colts question as well.

1636
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Colts and Titans coming up Sunday down in Nashville. I

1637
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: think tomorrow we may be taking a road trip down

1638
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: to Nashville find out the Titan side of things and

1639
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: the way that they you know, what they've done well

1640
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: so far, if anything, And I think that is a

1641
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: franchise and a team that is Colts fans can relate

1642
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: to what they're going through and not in a bad way.

1643
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, a young quarterback that looks to

1644
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: have a lot of tools that you like, but at

1645
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: the same time, you've got to, you know, navigate those

1646
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: tools and figure it out and figure out what they

1647
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: have at the quarterback position. And that is the biggest

1648
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: trick in the NFL. Certainly Shane Steikeen knows that. Eddie

1649
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: asked a question earlier, is this the best team talking

1650
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: about the Colts in the AFC South. A big part

1651
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 1: of that answer is going to be what they continue

1652
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 1: to get out of the quarterback play. And I had suspected,

1653
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: as did most I think that when Shane Steiken decided

1654
01:29:55,200 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 1: to go with Daniel Jones at the quarter back spot,

1655
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: that he was doing so partially because he talking about

1656
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken had been a college quarterback, and he talked

1657
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: about that earlier today, did stichen that being a college

1658
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: quarterback gives him maybe somewhat of an advantage because he

1659
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 1: a little bit empathizes, if you want to say it

1660
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: that way, with what a quarterback is going through in

1661
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 1: the learning process and what all goes through the mind

1662
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 1: of a quarterback when, as I always say it, when

1663
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: the arrows are flying, right, when bid action's going on,

1664
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 1: when you know what hits the fan. Yeah, I mean,

1665
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's easy to or do you

1666
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: want to say the word Jay can find out if

1667
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: you get fined. No, I don't want to find out

1668
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna get fined. Okay, it'd be the only

1669
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: fine thing about this show. I can tell you that

1670
01:30:54,280 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 1: the I think it's easy to sit and say, and

1671
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: those of us in media, fans, et cetera. You know,

1672
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: I always get a kick out of it a Monday

1673
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: morning when you know, the All twenty two video comes

1674
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,879
Speaker 1: out and people like, look at this read this quarterback

1675
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: completely missed this guy. And if I'm a quarterback, I'm

1676
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 1: probably saying to myself, it's easy for you to say

1677
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 1: that now, but you're not out there when you've got

1678
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: microseconds to make that decision, and you know it just

1679
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 1: is happening all around you, and you know, I think

1680
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: that Shane Steichen, having played the position, knows and understands

1681
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: and respects and can see it perhaps in guiding him

1682
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: through can see exactly like from from afar, some of

1683
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 1: the challenges that a quarterback faces that we would be

1684
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: naive to. And in making the decision on whether or

1685
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,759
Speaker 1: not he wanted to go this year with Daniel Jones,

1686
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: says Anthony Richardson, And clearly, you know Daniel Jones right

1687
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 1: now is as he is playing as well at the

1688
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: quarterback spot as anybody in the NFL. And it's very

1689
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: easy to sit here and say, but he didn't really

1690
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: do that through camp, like why is it? Why is

1691
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 1: Dan like in camp he didn't really blow anybody away,

1692
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 1: So why suddenly the increase in level of play now? Well,

1693
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: I think part of that answer is because there was

1694
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: a level of I'm not going to say watering it down,

1695
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: but he was asking you had to basically have both

1696
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks going through the same reps, the same thing, so

1697
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: that you could weigh it out. And then once he

1698
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: decided Daniel Jones was his guy, then I think Stiken

1699
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: ramped up what it was that he was going to

1700
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 1: ask that quarterback to do. And now he is designing

1701
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: things that are more specified towards the skill set of

1702
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as opposed to more water down to be

1703
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: able to figure out which of the two guys he

1704
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: wants to go with. He said something earlier today when

1705
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 1: he was asked about Daniel Jones. Shane Steiken said the following,

1706
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: and he was talking here about, you know, we saw

1707
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: some blitzing with Miami, but we saw a ton of

1708
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: blitzing with Denver. Denver blitzes as aggressively and as with

1709
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:29,719
Speaker 1: as much regularity as really any team in the league.

1710
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: And yet Daniel Jones has had success. And so Shane

1711
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 1: Steiken was asked about that success from Daniel Jones, and

1712
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: I thought he said something interesting.

1713
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 7: I think I understanding what's going on defense, Understanding where

1714
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 7: the pressures are coming from, Knowing the timing of when

1715
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 7: you got to get the ball out, knowing how you're

1716
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 7: picked up, whether you're going to be hot or not.

1717
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 7: I think that's a huge part of it, and that's

1718
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 7: the game. That's the game within the game, and that's

1719
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 7: studying it and understanding what's going on on the other

1720
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 7: side of the field so you can play on rhythm

1721
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 7: and play on time, and I think our line's done

1722
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 7: a hell of the job, you know, protecting for him

1723
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 7: in his last two weeks.

1724
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so right there, what he's talking about is exactly

1725
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: what Again, Shane Steiken always gives us the answer after

1726
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: the fact. We should have known this all along. He

1727
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: went with the guy not necessarily even that throws the

1728
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: prettier ball, although he does throw with more accuracy. He

1729
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: went with the guy that doesn't necessarily keep defenses shaking

1730
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: about what can happen if he decides to run. But

1731
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 1: he went with the guy did Shane Steiken. He went

1732
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 1: with the guy that gives him better understanding of extended vision,

1733
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: of being an extension of the coach on the field.

1734
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: And I think because he has a quarterback that can

1735
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:59,919
Speaker 1: recognize what is happening and process quickly what is happening,

1736
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: then that allows Stichen to be able to call plays

1737
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: as he sees fit and as he desires because he

1738
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,919
Speaker 1: knows the quarterback is going to be able to execute

1739
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 1: those plays. But if a look or formation counters what

1740
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: it is that Shane Stikeen wants to do, he has

1741
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: an extension of his own thought under center. I'm not

1742
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: saying that Anthony Richardson doesn't get along with Stichen or

1743
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: any of those things. But Daniel Jones is giving Stikeen

1744
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 1: the ability, from Shane Steikin's standpoint of allowing him to

1745
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 1: be confident in the fact that he has on the

1746
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: field a guy that is a direct that is going

1747
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: to directly follow not only what Stikeen wants, but can

1748
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 1: check out of and get away from something if the

1749
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: wrong call was made by recognition. I think this decision

1750
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: was made. I think this this decision was made when

1751
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 1: that very first play when Richardson got blown up in

1752
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: the preseason because he didn't And I'm not saying it's

1753
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: entirely Richardson's fault. I'm not saying he's the only quarterback

1754
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: that would not have recognized that. But when you hear

1755
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 1: right there what Shane Stikeen is saying about Daniel Jones,

1756
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 1: what he is saying is not as much that Daniel

1757
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: Jones does that, but that that's what he needs. He

1758
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: needs somebody that recognizes situation, the entire operation, entire operation

1759
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: that's exactly correct, and that entire operation goes above and beyond.

1760
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 1: I need a guy that I know when he walks

1761
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 1: up to that line of scrimmage. He is carrying with

1762
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: him everything I told him in a meeting on Tuesday.

1763
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: He is remembering what I showed him in a film

1764
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and he has mentioned he is aware of

1765
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 1: the potential change in a shift of defensive look that

1766
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: I reminded him of on Friday. And that's a lot.

1767
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: There's not many quarterbacks that can do that. That's a lot.

1768
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: There are great quarterbacks that have played in the NFL

1769
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 1: for a really long time that failed in being able

1770
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 1: to grasp all of that. And then you have other

1771
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: things that take place that I appreciate Shane Steichen pointing

1772
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 1: out to us that are games within the game, to

1773
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: use his term. For example, the Colts now have a

1774
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 1: piece in Tyler Warren that is a straw mixing the

1775
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: drink of their offense. Alec Pierce has become a better

1776
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden like tough catch, possession receiver, crossing

1777
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: route kind of guy. But Tyler Warren still and continues

1778
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 1: to be the piece that makes that all possible. But

1779
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 1: what's fascinating is the threat of Tyler Warren and making

1780
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 1: defenses guess how and where you're going to use Tyler

1781
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: Warren that is what is facilitating for so many other

1782
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 1: areas of the Colts offensively. But to get that going

1783
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you need not Tyler Warren being the one that

1784
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 1: other people are springing big plays off of, but rather

1785
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren springing a big play off of someone else.

1786
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: Listen to what Shane Steichen says from a play when

1787
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren had a one of his two bigger catches

1788
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: on Sunday where he gets a yard after catch play.

1789
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,759
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing that makes Tyler Warren so dangerous.

1790
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: It's one thing to get in the ball, it's another

1791
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: than what he can do once the ball is in

1792
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 1: his hands with the yard after catch. And you think

1793
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: that it's just that Tyler Warren is this huge bulldozer

1794
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: Jeremy Shockey, runaway freight train type tight end, and that

1795
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, once he becomes that player, then you have

1796
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 1: to pay attention to that so much that it frees

1797
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: up Alec Pierce, and it frees up Ady Mitchell, and

1798
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: it frees up Michael Pittman, and it frees up Jonathan Taylor.

1799
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: But what about the fact that other players actually are

1800
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 1: freeing up Tyler Warren. Here's Shane steichen On exactly what

1801
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Oh yeah, that was huge. That was

1802
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 1: the one where we hit him.

1803
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 7: It was awesome.

1804
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: I showed that in the team meeting. It was awesome.

1805
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 7: That's kind of the game within the game, those little nuances.

1806
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 7: You know, he's running off there, and obviously Tyler catches

1807
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 7: the ball and he keeps running and looks as you know,

1808
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 7: looks up at s Manna man covers and the guy

1809
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 7: keeps running with him. Kind of see that around the

1810
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 7: league with some guys, some savvy players. We always show

1811
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 7: those clips, which are huge because that's extra yards for

1812
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 7: the guy that catches it.

1813
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 1: So what he's talking about is Warren as he catches

1814
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: the ball, Alec Pierce on a different side of the

1815
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: field faked like he had caught it, and Alec Pierce

1816
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: goes through the motions like he had just made a

1817
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 1: reception and begins running and that shifts the defense except

1818
01:39:55,680 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 1: for Tyler. Warren's one guy away from Tyler Warren because

1819
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody's like, wait a minute, where

1820
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: did the ball just go? And Warren notices then he

1821
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: just has man demand coverage and that there is no

1822
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: other help coming, and he knows I'm gonna win a

1823
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: man on man coverage and I'm gonna get additional yards here,

1824
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 1: and that's facilitated by Alec Pierce doing that. And I

1825
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 1: think it's anytime you have that kind of a versatility

1826
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 1: of a receiver that can make plays catching the ball

1827
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 1: but also make plays by being a decoy, that's the

1828
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of recognition and versatility that you want. Those are

1829
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,759
Speaker 1: those small details, Jake, that like the Kansas City Chiefs

1830
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: have perfected over time, that have made them such, you know,

1831
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: so dominant in terms of finding ways to win. It's

1832
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 1: those little details that give teams advantages and those because

1833
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 1: you take a place over with right and then you're like,

1834
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, and then boom, like a four yard

1835
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 1: play becomes a twelve yard play and it just extends

1836
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 1: and extends. But you gotta love that kind of versatility.

1837
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 1: Speaking of versatility, by the way, David Woods is a

1838
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 1: friend of the show, and when you talk about writing,

1839
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 1: there a versatility there as well, because he's a noted

1840
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: writer when it comes to a couple of things. Number one,

1841
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 1: his longtime coverage and book publication about Butler basketball, and

1842
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 1: number two, when it comes to track and field events

1843
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 1: and Olympic events. David Woods has been Indianapolis's marquee guy

1844
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: for that. He also works on coffee table books, and

1845
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the ones that Kramer had that's

1846
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: a coffee table book about coffee tables, but rather about

1847
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: women in sports. We'll get to that in a minute,

1848
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: but first let me simply welcome him to the program. David,

1849
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:29,640
Speaker 1: how are you.

1850
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 6: I'm doing great, Jake, thanks for having me on.

1851
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: Hey, I want to begin with this. You you know, Cole

1852
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:38,680
Speaker 1: Hawker is a guy that is an Olympic medalist that

1853
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,759
Speaker 1: is from here in Indianapolis. He is a Cathedral graduate.

1854
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: You know, he went away for college and then I'm

1855
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: going to say surprisingly became a gold medalist. And that's

1856
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: not because he's not a great runner, but I think

1857
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,799
Speaker 1: that if you look at when he won Olympic gold,

1858
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: it was a race where for the first eighty percent,

1859
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of came out nowhere. He was

1860
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: like mine that bird in the Kentucky Derby. All of

1861
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: a sudden he comes out of nowhere and he wins,

1862
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 1: and that puts him in the world stage. And right

1863
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: now there are the and to correct me if my

1864
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: terminology is incorrect. The World Track Championships that are taking place,

1865
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: I believe in Tokyo, and he is going to run

1866
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: to well Friday, technically I guess is it Friday in

1867
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: Tokyo and Thursday here or he still has another event.

1868
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 1: But he was disqualified in the fifteen hundred and may

1869
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 1: have won that event if he'd been in it. What

1870
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: led to David, I know you've been covering this for

1871
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 1: Cole Hawker's sake. What led to him being disqualified in

1872
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:40,440
Speaker 1: the fifteen hundred.

1873
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 6: Well, him, he got himself into trouble by which he

1874
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 6: often does by staying so close to the rail, which

1875
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 6: is the shortest distance. But within the cluttered field he

1876
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 6: was in, he was boxed in and he only had

1877
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 6: to be in the first six Monday semi final to

1878
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 6: get out, and he kind of of he kind of

1879
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 6: slipped through, but there was a ruling that he jostled

1880
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 6: another runner to his right. It kind of it looked

1881
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 6: kind of bad live, but on replay it wasn't much

1882
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 6: In an international racing that sometimes isn't called. So I

1883
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 6: would say maybe the disqualification was warranted, but you know,

1884
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 6: it's also perhaps perhaps nitpicking and a lot of times

1885
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,679
Speaker 6: that wouldn't be called, and the way that the final

1886
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 6: played out today, I actually I actually think the way

1887
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 6: that race evolved, I think Hawker would have won the

1888
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 6: gold medal and instead he wasn't even in it.

1889
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 1: Okay. And so when you talk about the ruling, okay,

1890
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: when you have in David, I'm I'm almost embarrassed to

1891
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 1: ask this question, it's so incredibly naive. But when you

1892
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,759
Speaker 1: go with international ruling, So this is in Tokyo, correct,

1893
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 1: the World Track Championships, Yes, okay. When you have international

1894
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: events like that, is it the world sanctioning body that

1895
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: is officiating it? And thus the runner knows, regardless of

1896
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: competition or locale, that the ruling is going to be

1897
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: consistently the same or there are there different governing bodies

1898
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 1: dependent upon where the event is taking place, and thus

1899
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: running styles or rules can fluctuate a little bit from

1900
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:15,799
Speaker 1: one race to the next.

1901
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:20,440
Speaker 6: No, the World Athletics was in charge and it really consistency.

1902
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 6: But I just remember watching the end of the women's

1903
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:27,639
Speaker 6: marathon at Paris last year. I mean, the winner, Stefan

1904
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 6: Hassan and the runner up had a major collision late

1905
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 6: in that race, and nothing was called, and in another

1906
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 6: women's race. I think it was the five thousand meters.

1907
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 6: I mean there was big time hand fighting late in

1908
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 6: that race and a runner was disqualified losing a metal

1909
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 6: and then later reinstated. So you know, it's like any

1910
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 6: other sport, officiating isn't always consistent. You know, Hawker's at

1911
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 6: fault for getting himself into into a bad spot. He's

1912
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 6: actually usually a very good racer actician, and it looked

1913
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 6: like he might have gotten away with it and he didn't.

1914
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Speaker 6: But I think it probably just makes him even more

1915
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Speaker 6: dangerous than the five thousand. I's got to qualify Friday

1916
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Speaker 6: for the Sunday final, but it's been so hot and

1917
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Speaker 6: humid in Tokyo. I have a feeling in the final

1918
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Speaker 6: would go a little slow, and if you let the

1919
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Speaker 6: pace lag very long, you leave yourself susceptible to being

1920
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Speaker 6: overtaken by a kicker like Hawker, which is how he

1921
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Speaker 6: won the US Championship.

1922
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Speaker 1: That's all I was going to ask, is you know

1923
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Speaker 1: I realized it was in the fifteen hundred that Colehawker

1924
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Speaker 1: of Innanapolis won the gold in the five thousand, you know,

1925
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Speaker 1: what is his How good an event is that for him?

1926
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Speaker 1: I mean, the fifteen hundred is his specialty? Is that correct? Yes?

1927
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Speaker 1: And so the five thousand is it would he be

1928
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Speaker 1: he would be prognosticated or rank if you will wear

1929
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to the five thousand, well.

1930
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Speaker 6: Not necessarily among the favors, but again it kind of

1931
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Speaker 6: depends how it plays out. And it's going to be

1932
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 6: really interesting because three milers Hawker Jaka Benger Britzet of

1933
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 6: Norway and Niels Leros of the Netherlands, who I thought

1934
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 6: would win today's fifteen hundred, are all in that and

1935
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 6: it would probably behoove the other guys who are more

1936
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 6: of strictly distance runners to try to try to make

1937
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 6: that race faster, you know, to kind of you know,

1938
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 6: to kind of slow down the finishing speed of the

1939
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,879
Speaker 6: three milers. But that's what makes Championship bracing so interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know.

1941
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Speaker 6: It's not like the Diamond League where they have wave

1942
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 6: lights and pacers and everyone's just out to run fast.

1943
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 6: You know, Tactics come into play a lot, and you

1944
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 6: know it as you're more familiar with it, it probably

1945
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 6: more resembles an Indy car or NASCAR than it does

1946
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 6: the drags.

1947
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Speaker 1: Really good way of saying, and actually you know what

1948
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean that in just in terms of

1949
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 1: distance as opposed to short burst and et cetera. David

1950
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: Woods is our guest independent journalists now but longtime rider

1951
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,800
Speaker 1: here in Santoriniana. All right, let's get to the other

1952
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: thing that caught my eye, David, and that is, you know,

1953
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 1: I Pediment Publishing has a new book out. It's one

1954
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 1: hundred and forty four pages. It has fabulous color photography

1955
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: in it. It features and this is the part that

1956
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: I love, inspiring women of Indiana sports. They changed the

1957
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 1: games we love. And then I look at it and

1958
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 1: I say, holy cow. The guy that put this all together,

1959
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: the author of it is David Woods. So take me

1960
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 1: through if you could, and we'll get people information about

1961
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 1: the book itself. But what was the origin of thought

1962
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 1: or inspiration of this book that is in fact about

1963
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 1: inspiration itself.

1964
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 6: Well, I realized I had a lot of these stories

1965
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 6: on women athletes over the years, and it really is

1966
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 6: probably because of two things. Because I covered you know,

1967
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 6: women's basketball at Indiana Fever for so long and Olympic sports.

1968
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 6: You know, I just naturally end up writing about a

1969
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 6: lot of women athletes, and so many of them are

1970
01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 6: great stories. I said, boy, if I could, if I

1971
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,679
Speaker 6: could maybe assemble kind of an anthology of these stories,

1972
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 6: it might be kind of a cool book. And Indie

1973
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,600
Speaker 6: Star's Fortsheedter Nat Newell got me connected with h with

1974
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 6: the USA Today Gannett editor and they, you know, they

1975
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 6: have an agreement with Pediment Publishing, and they decided to

1976
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 6: go ahead and do with it. I must have been

1977
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 6: I'm pretty surprised, but women's sports are kind of trendy now,

1978
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 6: and I'm you know, I'm very happy about about what

1979
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 6: we've assembled, and uh, you know, I hope, I hope

1980
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 6: readers are excited about it as I have been putting

1981
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 6: it together. Now, almost all of the stories are just

1982
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 6: stories I've already written have been published in Indie Star

1983
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:43,719
Speaker 6: probably over the last twenty six years. A couple others

1984
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 6: are from elsewhere. And I still have to write my

1985
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 6: Caitlin Clark story because I you know, that she came

1986
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 6: on the scene after I had left full time employment

1987
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 6: at The Star, so I'll write an essay about her.

1988
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 6: But yeah, the rest the rest of them are from

1989
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 6: you know, lots of different sports and from several different eras,

1990
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 6: and I'm really gratified that that USA today, Gannett and

1991
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 6: Indie Starr are impediment publishing are putting this together.

1992
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 1: David, when you look back on your career and as

1993
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:19,679
Speaker 1: you were putting this book together, you're looking at articles,

1994
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 1: let's say that you wrote, you know in some of them,

1995
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, as you'd mentioned twenty plus years ago, do

1996
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 1: you feel like the reception of the articles, the interest

1997
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 1: of them, the perception of female athletes is different today

1998
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 1: than it was, say twenty five years ago, in terms

1999
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:44,839
Speaker 1: of the overall interest level, the overall you know, beyond

2000
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,720
Speaker 1: just the stick and ball sport, et cetera. How would

2001
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:54,839
Speaker 1: you explain the overall journey of the reception of female athletes.

2002
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's definitely in the stick and ball sports.

2003
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:02,640
Speaker 6: It's more think there's a lot more interest, you know,

2004
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 6: in in basketball and and you know maybe even college

2005
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 6: of volleyball, and ESPN gets good ratings on college softball.

2006
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 6: I think there's always been pretty good interest in the UH,

2007
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 6: in the in the Olympic sports involving women athletes. I

2008
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 6: don't know that that's changed that much, you know, in

2009
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 6: terms of track and field and swimming and gymnastics, and

2010
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 6: you know, I've got you know, Brownsburg cyclist Chloe Dygert,

2011
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 6: who who was arguably the you know, the most outstanding

2012
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 6: active Indiana athlete right now in any sport. So I

2013
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 6: think there's still has always been quite a bit of

2014
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 6: interest in those but there's no question in some of

2015
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 6: these other sports that the interest has really increased. And

2016
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 6: as we can see from what Gave and Clark has

2017
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 6: done to the n w n b A, and you know,

2018
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 6: you could say too that it also might indicate that

2019
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 6: there has been some staying power. Now Clark probably shined

2020
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 6: a light on all the other players, but she hasn't played,

2021
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 6: you know, most of the season, but the ratings for

2022
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 6: the WNBA have continued to be good, and so there

2023
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 6: really has been that carry over which in some ways

2024
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 6: even enhances Clark's you know, Clark's impact on the league

2025
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 6: because the league has done well even when she's on

2026
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,679
Speaker 6: the sideline. I think that's pretty amazing.

2027
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 1: Jake, inspiring women of Indiana sports. They changed the games

2028
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: We Love is the book from David Woods Pediment Publishing,

2029
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 1: Putting it All Together. David, when you look back at

2030
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 1: the stories that you pieced together for this book, did

2031
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 1: you have I know that you said that it were

2032
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 1: stories that you have previously done. You compiled the stories

2033
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: of female sports related figures that you had done over

2034
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 1: the course of your career. Did you have what was

2035
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: the parameter on what qualified as being Indiana sports? In

2036
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:54,679
Speaker 1: other words, did you include, say, if somebody came through

2037
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 1: at the you know, at Michael Carroll Stadium right as

2038
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: part of a team USA Trials and didn't have Indiana

2039
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: connection other than Indiana provided the stage where they were performing, you.

2040
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 6: Know, you had to go to either a bee from

2041
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 6: Indiana or go to an Indiana college, or in the

2042
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 6: case of you know, uh, Tamika Catchings and and Katelin

2043
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 6: Clark you know, play for the you know, play for

2044
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 6: the local professional team. So I you know, I've got

2045
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 6: a few Notre Dame athletes in here. And of course

2046
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 6: I've got you know, Tamika and Katelyn Clark who played

2047
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:29,600
Speaker 6: for the Fever who you know they're not they're not

2048
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 6: Native Hoosiers. But I would say probably all, but you know,

2049
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 6: maybe just a small handful. You know, didn't uh, you know,

2050
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 6: didn't you know worth Indiana natives?

2051
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 1: Really? Did you have a favorite story?

2052
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not sure I did you know, my

2053
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 6: favorite might be Andrea Pomeransky. She was Andrea Craber when

2054
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 6: she was at Bishop Chatard. She was a high school

2055
01:52:56,320 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 6: softball star, you know, became became a good run for Miami, Ohio,

2056
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 6: didn't run for ten years, for almost ten years, tragically

2057
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 6: lost two twins, two infant twins, resumed running kind of

2058
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:20,839
Speaker 6: for mental health, and ended up being an elite runner,

2059
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 6: set a Indiana marathon record, qualified for the Olympic Trials.

2060
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 6: The arc of her story is it sounds like fiction.

2061
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 6: So I think that's probably the most remarkable women's athlete

2062
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 6: story that I've come across or will ever come across.

2063
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 1: Well, that certainly qualifies for the inspiring aspect of inspiring

2064
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 1: women of Indiana sports. They created the games, they excuse me,

2065
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 1: change the games we love again. Pediment Publishing put it

2066
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 1: together one hundred and forty four pages. It is a

2067
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 1: coffee table book. David Woods is the author, David Last.

2068
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: I know right now in the pre sale people can

2069
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 1: get it at twenty five percent off, but they would

2070
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 1: find out how to get in the book or be

2071
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 1: able to acquire it. How well you can.

2072
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 6: It's you if you just probably googled inspiring woman of

2073
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 6: Indiana Sports.

2074
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 3: That would take.

2075
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 6: You could probably find the original Indie Star story, which

2076
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 6: has a link. Pet Them Publishing has the link. They're

2077
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 6: easy to find. I don't think it's on Amazon yet,

2078
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,719
Speaker 6: but I saw it on the Barnes and Noble site,

2079
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 6: so there's quite a few places where you can order it.

2080
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 6: It is a twenty percent discount to get it now.

2081
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 6: It's it's for release in mid November, you know, which

2082
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 6: is always plenty of time, plenty of time for Christmas.

2083
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 6: And yeah, I hope I hope people who ordered the book,

2084
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 6: and that really would be the best deal. I realized

2085
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 6: most people probably aren't doing their Christmas shopping this early,

2086
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 6: but in this case, it would, you know, it would

2087
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 6: be smart to do so.

2088
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 3: So I hope, I hope.

2089
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,360
Speaker 6: I hope people enjoy it. I think they will. And uh,

2090
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 6: I think some of these stories, even though I wrote

2091
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 6: them a long time ago, still blow me away, so

2092
01:54:58,400 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 6: I hope the readers feel the same.

2093
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 1: David, I appreciate it. We'll talk to you in November

2094
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 1: to remind everybody about the time when it all comes out.

2095
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 6: All right, Hey, thanks so much, Shake, I really appreciate it.

2096
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 1: David Wood's our friend joining us on the program. When

2097
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: we come back, we will get back into.

2098
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 5: You know.

2099
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 1: David or Eddie asked the question earlier about are the

2100
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 1: Colts the best team in the AFC South. I think

2101
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 1: we can say they are, But what about the other divisions?

2102
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 1: Which division right now already seems to be the most

2103
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 1: clear cut. It's only two weeks in, but why not

2104
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 1: do overreaction times? Duh, right, we'll do it next. I

2105
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 1: failed to allow you, Eddie, to give your answer earlier.

2106
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: When I asked, I admitted to the fact that when

2107
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 1: I saw the headline about Kyle Rawley hitting his fifty

2108
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: fifth and fifty six home runs for the Seattle Mariners,

2109
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I had to kind of jog my memory as to

2110
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 1: and I know his nickname is the Big Dumper, yep,

2111
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 1: But I when I saw the headline, it just said

2112
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 1: like Raleigh sets new mark or something, and I thought

2113
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 1: the North Carolina State, the Carolina Hurricanes, Like whoa, And

2114
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 1: I opened the article and that's where I'm like, oh,

2115
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 1: that's right, okay, so kyraw And I had to think

2116
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:12,760
Speaker 1: for a second about who it was that he played.

2117
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know, and I'll be completely honest, I

2118
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: don't know if you would have just stopped me and

2119
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 1: said who does he play for? I mean I would

2120
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: have had to stop for a second. I would not

2121
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 1: have instinctively said to Sattle Mariners catcher, Sattle Mariners, And

2122
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: part of me wonders if that's not an indictment on me,

2123
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: and part of me wonders if that's not an indictment

2124
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:40,160
Speaker 1: on major League Baseball. So I will give you, Eddie

2125
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:43,839
Speaker 1: a two part question, the first being if you stopped

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Speaker 1: one thousand people at the Indianapolis Colts game on Sunday

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01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 1: in Nashville, you found as many Colts fans as you can,

2128
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 1: and then you found Titans fans. You know that basically

2129
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 1: the same region of the country, and you either showed

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01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 1: them a photo of cal Raley, or you said can

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01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 1: you tell me who he plays for? Or you said,

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01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 1: can you name the Seattle Mariner with fifty six home runs?

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01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 1: What percent of the one thousand people do you believe

2134
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 1: would know definitively who he is? Thirty? Maybe? So, how

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01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: egregious was my pause of recognition about him?

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Speaker 2: Don't think it's egregious at all, Jake. I think it's

2137
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 2: fascinating when you think of major League Baseball because nobody

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01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 2: cares about it. They may pay attention on an opening day,

2139
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 2: but they they don't really pay attention in the first

2140
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 2: half of the season because the NBA is going on

2141
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 2: a little bit because you got the playoffs, right, And

2142
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 2: then once the playoffs, however, okay, we start getting into

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01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:44,440
Speaker 2: it a little bit, because that's usually around the All

2144
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 2: Star break or whatever. NFL's back, it tapers off here

2145
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks, the fandom will start getting

2146
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 2: will start ascending again because you're in the playoffs. So

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01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 2: I think when you're in this version right now, when

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01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 2: you're in the last month of the season, I think

2149
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 2: people forget about Major League Baseball a lot because you've

2150
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 2: got college football, you've got.

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01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: The NFL going on. But postseason baseball is the best

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01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: baseball to watch, and I think that's when you'll start seeing,

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01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, fantom increase. I do think that not even fandom,

2154
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 1: just more so the amount of people paying attention. I should.

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01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 1: I wonder this, Eddie, And I think the reason why

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01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 1: the number is so low here jac is because obviously

2157
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 1: he plays out in Seattle, and I mean major league

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01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 1: baseball here. It's a you know, I realized that we're

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01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 1: talking about this in a non MLB market. But I

2160
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 1: am curious, genuinely how much Major League Baseball of yesteryear

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01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 1: was benefited by a three to four decade long craze

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01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 1: of baseball cards. Yeah, I mean, I just I think

2163
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: for a long time, baseball players were so recognizable because

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01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 1: you knew of them from baseball cards, and for baseball

2165
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 1: cards that would tell you who the previous year's All

2166
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Star team was, and et cetera. And you know, a

2167
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 1: guy like Raley would have been a household name forty

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01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 1: years ago because every kid would have been vying for

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01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 1: his record breaking you know, baseball card. Okay, to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having my back there. By the way,

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01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 1: you're welcome. Best team by division. I'm going to give

2172
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 1: you the division and you tell me how clear cut

2173
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 1: the best team is you ready, East Buffalo, New England,

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01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 1: New York, Miami. I think we all know who the

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01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 1: best team in that division is. And I realized I

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01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:37,200
Speaker 1: can hear all you folks, the Buffalo. This is stupid, man.

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Speaker 1: Just look at the standings. Yeah, Buffalo's the best, right,

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01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 1: But I do think now, give me the team in

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Speaker 1: each division that might be better than you think Buffalo,

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01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 1: New England, New York, Miami. I have to stick with

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01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 1: the team I picked in this AFC East Conference or standings,

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01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 1: I would go with the New England Patriots. Okay, I

2183
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 1: think the Jets might be slightly more competent than people think,

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02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,879
Speaker 1: and I know they're owing to Okay, AFC North Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland,

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02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:10,720
Speaker 1: Baltimore agreed, and I don't think Pittsburgh's very good at

2186
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland's a disaster. And the Bengals, I think they will

2187
02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 1: fare better than people realize without Borrow. Yes, I agree

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02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 1: with you. No knock on Burrow. The South, we talked

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02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 1: about AFC West, Chargers, Raiders, Broncos Chiefs. I mean Jake obviously,

2190
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 1: when you have T Higgins and Jamar Chase in Chase Brown,

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02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:30,120
Speaker 1: it's very helpful to be correct, you know, competence offensively

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02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 1: and the AFC West, the best team is the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers over Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Right now, the best team in the AFC West is

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I get it. Kansas City can't run the ball.

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02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 1: They don't have much of a passing attack out. I mean,

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02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 1: it's just mahomes scrambling around, trying to find somebody open.

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Speaker 1: But still like when it comes to Kansas City, You're like,

2200
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 1: they just won the conference a year ago, right, I know.

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Speaker 1: I still think the Raiders are going to be better

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Speaker 1: than people think. But I would agree with you the

2203
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:04,160
Speaker 1: Chargers the best team in the division. Okay, NFC East Eagles, Commanders, Cowboys,

2204
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 1: Giants until otherwise the Philadelphia Eagles. Okay, I don't disagree,

2205
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 1: but I think the Commanders are pretty good. Yeah, I

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02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 1: think the Commanders are pretty good, and I think that

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02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 1: they could you know in a You're right, Philly is

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02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 1: probably gonna win the division, yep, but Washington is a

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Speaker 1: wild card, is dangerous. NFC North Pack Vikings, Lions, Bears.

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Speaker 1: Best team in the division right now through two weeks

2211
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 1: has to be the green Bay Packers. They arguably have

2212
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 1: the best defense in the National Football Okay, I think

2213
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 1: it's Detroit still. I think they had a letdown in

2214
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 1: week one, but Jared Goff went off in week two.

2215
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Speaker 1: I'll say Lions, I'll take over the long haul. I

2216
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 1: can't say Lions just because of the fact Green Bay

2217
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:46,320
Speaker 1: has already beat him. I understand they handle them, understood,

2218
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Speaker 1: But I think over the long haul Detroit's going to

2219
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Speaker 1: be the better team, all right. NFC South Bucks, Falcon, Saints, Panthers.

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Speaker 1: I think the best team in that division is the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You know what I have to say

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Speaker 1: about the NFC South good?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you kidding me? Atlanta is not as

2225
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:09,720
Speaker 1: bad as you think. I think Michael Pennix actually has

2226
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 1: some play in him. But the Bucks kind of play

2227
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:16,320
Speaker 1: with the mentality of Baker Mayfield and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Do you have pinnix envy? Okay? All right? NFC West,

2229
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good. That's not bad. That's

2230
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:29,040
Speaker 1: not bad. Niners, Cardinals, Rams, Seahawks the NFC West best team,

2231
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 1: three of them. Undefeated. Los Angeles Rams are the best

2232
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Speaker 1: team in that division. I think that's probite true. The

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Speaker 1: one that's fools gold, I think is Arizona at least

2234
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:41,080
Speaker 1: right now with Stafford healthy. You never know with Stafford,

2235
02:02:41,080 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 1: he had the back injury and leading up and leaving

2236
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 1: at the start of the year, so things could change

2237
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 1: there rapidly. And yes, Arizona, they squeaked by the Carolina

2238
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 1: Panthers and they just were able to, you know, show

2239
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 1: up and get a win over the New Orleans Saints. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: of the teams that you just said are the best

2241
02:02:56,680 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 1: in each division, let me read them off and you

2242
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:02,400
Speaker 1: tell me which one your least sold on. Okay, the Rams,

2243
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 1: the Bucks, the Packers, the Eagles, the Chargers. We're leaving

2244
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 1: out the AFC South. The you said Ravens, right, I did, yes?

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02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 1: And the Bills least sold on?

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02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 2: Yes, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I would agree with that

2247
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 2: most sold on, most sold on the either Baltimore or Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: One of those two.

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Speaker 1: I think it could be the Chargers. I still need

2250
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:28,680
Speaker 1: to see Justin Herbert win a playoff game. I get it.

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02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 1: I think he's very, very talented though, and there's just

2252
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: something about he's. Look, he's kooky, and he's got a

2253
02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:37,680
Speaker 1: shelf life of about four years. But Jim Harbaugh, you

2254
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, you know, he a little

2255
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Speaker 1: goes a long way.

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Speaker 2: You know, Herbert's kind of in that Peyton Manning territory

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02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 2: where he's got the ability to be really good. And

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02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 2: you could see it right, and like the whole knock

2259
02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:48,840
Speaker 2: on Manning was that he couldn't win the big game.

2260
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Speaker 2: He couldn't win the games when they mattered in the playoffs,

2261
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:52,520
Speaker 2: and that's kind of like the similar trajectory right now

2262
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Speaker 2: for Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fair uh, J ANDV will be in shortly. We

2264
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Speaker 1: will do the crossover brought to you by Love Heating

2265
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 1: and Airon find out what he's got lined up on

2266
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 1: the big program. We'll do it next Eddie, do you

2267
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:09,120
Speaker 1: have big plans for the evening? I don't believe. So

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02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 1: it's a night off until Game three tomorrow night, so

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02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 1: I'll probably just chill out at home, you know. I

2270
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 1: what about you? You're going out to the painting the town

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02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 1: read tonight with Shannon.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 1: I actually am golfing this afternoon. Really, Oh, I have

2274
02:04:35,080 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 1: continued my weekly golfing with Doctor White. There's actually four

2275
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 1: that play Will Harris, Eddie Cushionberry, not me, not me.

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Speaker 1: I'm d A Garrison, that's right. I don't golf, Jim

2277
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 1: Con and Doctor White, gen Con that's right. We all

2278
02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 1: dress up like creatures from from Star Trek and go golf. No,

2279
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 1: Jim Con, how are you swinging it? You know, it's

2280
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 1: a fascinating game because I just started obviously a year ago,

2281
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:06,960
Speaker 1: so I'm not I mean to say that I'm good.

2282
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:12,440
Speaker 1: Is disingenuous are I'm driving. I was very happy last

2283
02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 1: week because when we played, I used the same ball

2284
02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:18,720
Speaker 1: the entire round. Is that big for you? I mean,

2285
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: it can be that I don't drive for very much distance.

2286
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:26,160
Speaker 1: The good fortune I have is I hit it primarily straight.

2287
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't typically shank it or slice it. That's good.

2288
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:34,200
Speaker 1: Glad you're not a shanker. Have you golfed? Did you say, Eddie?

2289
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 5: No?

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02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 1: My challenge still, as I have mentioned before, and I

2291
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:41,000
Speaker 1: know that nobody cares about one's golf game, but I

2292
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:45,440
Speaker 1: think it's relatable to people. I'm really good until not

2293
02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 1: really good, but I'm very competent. And then when I

2294
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:52,960
Speaker 1: get about ninety yards in just getting the feel for pitching,

2295
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:58,480
Speaker 1: that's where directionally I get thrown off in terms of

2296
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:01,680
Speaker 1: figuring out the alignment to pitch in the right direction.

2297
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:07,000
Speaker 1: So I would say that that when I and I

2298
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:12,120
Speaker 1: can put okay. But last week, for example, I had

2299
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 1: two pars and then for the most part I was

2300
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 1: a like double bogie on most holes, an occasional bogie.

2301
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:22,880
Speaker 1: We don't really keep an active score, so I can't

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Speaker 1: say totality what my score is, but I think, you know,

2303
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 1: probably mid nineties would be my guests. Maybe that's a

2304
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 1: little conservative. I don't know, but I mean it's fun.

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02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 1: So we're doing that, and then after that, just family

2306
02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 1: stuff got to take care of, you know that kind

2307
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:40,360
Speaker 1: of thing. I looked really at what the sports calendar

2308
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:43,879
Speaker 1: is tonight. Obviously tomorrow it will be Thursday night football

2309
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:45,760
Speaker 1: getting back into the swing of things. It's a big

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02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:49,560
Speaker 1: one this week is and isn't it? Does Baltimore maybe

2311
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 1: Plany on Thursday night? I believe Baltimore is on Monday night.

2312
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo perhaps, but they're taking on is it Miami?

2313
02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:01,000
Speaker 1: It is Buffalo and Miami tomorrow. Okay, that's not really

2314
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:01,560
Speaker 1: a big one.

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02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:05,200
Speaker 2: Sunday night it's Kansas City and New York. Monday night

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02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:07,440
Speaker 2: it's Detroit in Baltimore.

2317
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:10,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Detroit, Baltimore's pretty.

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02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 2: Big Monday Night m and T Bank Stadium. By the way,

2319
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:16,120
Speaker 2: were you a fave fan the other night, Monday night

2320
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:18,680
Speaker 2: of the double header the seven o'clock ten o'clock I

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02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:19,520
Speaker 2: do kind.

2322
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:22,080
Speaker 1: Of like it, just because if you're a night owl,

2323
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:23,840
Speaker 1: it's pretty When I did the morning show that I

2324
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 1: would have said absolutely, no way that is me. But

2325
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:29,960
Speaker 1: now it's what's happening? That is me night all Now,

2326
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:35,560
Speaker 1: Chris Fowler needed some rocola, right, He definitely poor guy.

2327
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 1: He had that Sunday Saturday night college game and then

2328
02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:40,360
Speaker 1: he's got the game on Monday night. Yeah, he had

2329
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 1: some definite laryngitis going.

2330
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Speaker 2: On a double header next week on Monday night. Uh

2331
02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 2: seven fifteen eight fifteen. Not a fan of the crossover.

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02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. But you're a fan

2333
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:52,840
Speaker 1: of this crossover brought to you by I Love eating

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Speaker 1: an Air because jamb has just arrived.

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Speaker 8: Love the double Dip on Monday Night, Eddie. What's your

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Speaker 8: problem with that crap?

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Speaker 1: I love the Double Dip? John, I just I just

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Speaker 1: not as the overlap.

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Speaker 8: What up gripping about everything? Younger generation?

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Speaker 1: Big show? What I do? I was going to say,

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Speaker 1: I see your mom all the time? You known my mother?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that she sees me rarely clothed.

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Speaker 1: That is, uh want of clothes on my mow and stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are going to probably take that

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Speaker 2: out my place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people are going to take that out of context. John.

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Speaker 1: I asked this earlier, and I'm curious your thoughts. Being

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Speaker 1: a native of Southeastern in the Southwestern Indiana. Spec But

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Speaker 1: did you ever go to the hot restaurant in Nashville?

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Speaker 8: Uh? No, you know, I did spend much time in Nashville,

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Speaker 8: so like my time was spend in Bedford and Vincenn's and.

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Speaker 1: That's right show So like, did you ever do that

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Speaker 1: like one strip in Brown County though, in the restaurant

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Speaker 1: that looks like the old drug store? I did not. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I have not.

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Speaker 8: I haven't been to like I go there now because

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Speaker 8: the Brown Country music said was outstanding.

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Speaker 1: But Lou Graham coming up in early October for I.

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Speaker 8: Still have yet to be there. I know that they've

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Speaker 8: awesome place. I mean, we go sometime. Why don't you

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Speaker 8: and hey, Friday night Lou Graham. I think the first

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Speaker 8: Friday night in October, Lou Graham, me and you and

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Speaker 8: Shannan will go and see Lou Graham go through some

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Speaker 8: foreigner hits.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling this would be like leading somewhere

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Speaker 1: like some gas station at forty six, and you'd be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: go in and get a coke, would you. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: here's what I also do.

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Speaker 8: I'm really good about this. I'm you know, when I

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Speaker 8: asked people to go with me that I make them

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Speaker 8: drive so I can get drunk.

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Speaker 1: Well, you can always just say like, can you drive

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Speaker 1: meet drunk? Right?

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Speaker 8: I want you guys drive and I'll sit here in

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Speaker 8: the backseat and drink. So yeah, no, it it is

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Speaker 8: a It is a great place down there. I do

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Speaker 8: love Brown County a great deal, I do, but I

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Speaker 8: rarely go for that. Hey, Bloomington this weekend, Jake, it's

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Speaker 8: going to be great, outstanding. Why don't they reopen Hooligans

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Speaker 8: again sometime? Stir the echoes of Hooligans. You know, Trent

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Speaker 8: Green did the game. That's the last time I s

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Speaker 8: I saw Trent Green. This Sunday was back in nineteen

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Speaker 8: ninety one at Hooligans, and the chicks were just fawning

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Speaker 8: all over them and not me.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine life was good for Trent Green, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I remember some chicken the Hooligans. I was wearing

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Speaker 8: a turtle neck with my gold chain on the outside

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Speaker 8: of it.

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Speaker 1: She said, she.

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Speaker 8: Said, you don't you look exactly like the lead singer

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Speaker 8: of Color Me Bad?

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Speaker 1: Great? You know Color Me Bad. Here's your fun fact.

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Speaker 1: You're ready. The day that I entered high school, my

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Speaker 1: first day of school in high school, the number one

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Speaker 1: song on the Billboard chart was I Want Your Sex

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Speaker 1: by George Michael. Yes, and the last day that I

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Speaker 1: walked out of high school, the number one song was

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Speaker 1: I Want to Sex You Up by Colors. That's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how about that I want to sex you up? That's

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Speaker 1: your favorite color? The only mention I remember at the time.

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Speaker 3: Too.

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Speaker 8: They had the dude who was kind of vanilla that

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Speaker 8: was the lead singer, kind of Vanilla Ice Forrest, and

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Speaker 8: then they had the Terrence Trent Darby dude. And then

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Speaker 8: they had the Kenny g dude, and then they had

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Speaker 8: the George Michael guy. It was all kind of looking

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Speaker 8: like guys that were really popular already.

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Speaker 1: Trent Darby is one that I thought was going to

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Speaker 1: be a major star.

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Speaker 8: Because he told everybody he was going to be bigger

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Speaker 8: than the Beatles, and he was basing. He wasn't two

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Speaker 8: hit guy. Yeah, that was the end of that.

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Speaker 1: All right, John's up next. He will be with you

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Speaker 1: until six pm today, right, and we will be back.

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Speaker 3: I ges you.

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Speaker 8: We got to go until six today, James, Oh, that's

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Speaker 8: too bad.

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Speaker 1: Back at noon tomorrow. I thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: a Quarying Company.