1 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: She will listen to the Hammer and Nigel Show. 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: with a very special guest on the hotline, Rob. 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: Kendall from The Kendall and Casey Show nine to noon 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 3: Here at ninety three WIBC and Rob, are you doing 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: the dance of joy at home in your tidy whities? 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: After seeing the results of the Senate vote? I know 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: you are very much against redistricting. How happy are you? 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: And why do you think this happened? 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 5: I was like Tom Cruise in Risky Business. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: Everywhere, So Reset, why were you against this so much? 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 5: Well? Look, I think if you just give people something 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 5: without them earning it, they're never going to earn it. 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 5: And if you just handed the Republicans two seats which 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: they have earned by governing, they're never going to do 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 5: the things that they promised to do when they campaign. 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 5: That first district is winnable if you make people believe 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 5: in you, if you get people policies and reasons to 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: vote for you, they're going to do it. I believe 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 5: in fair elections. The maps as they exist today look 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 5: almost identical to the ones in twenty ten that Todd 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 5: Rokita put together when he was Secretary of State with 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: Rethink Redistricting, which was to take the politics out of 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 5: the election. Our state is a sixty to forty state. 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 5: The maps are seventy eight percent Republicans seven to two. 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 5: They are a great representation of our state in favor 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 5: of the Republicans that if you want to win that 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 5: first congressional district, do it by governing. 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 3: So what's your response to those who say, Okay, that's great, 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: you believe in fair maps. I get that that's noble, 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: But other states don't, like Illinois and New York and California. 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: And sometimes you've got to fight fire with fire. 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: If somebody punches you in the face, you got to 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: punch them in the face and do the same thing. 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Do you have any response to those folks, Well, let. 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 5: Me introduce you to places like North Carolina. I spent 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: a great deal of time in North Carolinas. It will 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 5: have one Democrat representative. It's a fifty to fifty state. 40 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: We act like that. These Democrat states are the only 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 5: states that do it. And what's really gross about this 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 5: is they were using Democrat states they only have one 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 5: or two representatives, like Rhode Island, going well, they have 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 5: zero Republican representation. Well tell me in Rhode Island where 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 5: that Republican district should be. They used Massachusetts. I begged people, 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 5: show me in Massachusetts, draw me a map where you 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 5: get any more than one, maybe one district that leans 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 5: Republican people. Can't do it. This is about bailing out 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 5: Republicans for the midterms because they once again they didn't 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: do what they promised to do, which is get spending 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 5: and cost of living under control, and they're trying to 52 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 5: rig the maps to cover because they haven't followed through. 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: And a follow up to that question your statement, you 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: touched on it just a little bit. But for people 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: to say that this is not about Indiana, this is 56 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: on a macro level about Donald Trump and his agenda 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: in getting his agenda through, and we UH as. 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: A state have maybe may have hindered that. 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 5: Well. Chris Garton, when all a senator today went all 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 5: Matt Foley on the Senate floor. Man, he morphed into 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 5: the Chris Farley character, screaming and pounding the podium, and 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 5: I thought he was going to accuse Rod Ray of 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 5: living in a ban down by the river. Before it 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 5: all sudden done. I mean, he was trying to talk 65 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: about this, and I'm like, well, wait a second, what 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: did the Trump agenda economically get us this past year? 67 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 5: It was five trillion of additional debt. Inflation is still high, 68 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: the cost of living is out of control. It's why 69 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 5: his polling is so low. That he has not delivered on. 70 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: The key issue. 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 5: So I reject the idea that I must go for 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: rig maps that favor people who keep raising my taxes 73 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: and growing government and making living less supportive. Like why 74 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 5: would I be wholly invested in rigging the system for 75 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 5: those people? 76 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: Rob Kendall joining us, and Rob, I've told you why 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: I was in favor of a nine map because I 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: live in Indianapolis, and I get stuck with the zero 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: that is Andre Carson. No matter what this zero does, 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: he's going to be re elected. So I was kind 81 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: of hoping to fire Andre Carson, but that's not going 82 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: to happen now. And I shared the Alonzo mourning meme 83 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: on Twitter of him, you know, being upset and shaking 84 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: his head that something has gone wrong, but then somewhat 85 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: understanding that there's something positive coming out of it. While 86 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: I am upset that Andre Carson gets to keep his gig. 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm very much in favor of seeing the national media 88 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: crap all over Rod Bray. So I'm getting something out 89 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: of this rout. 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 5: Well, you know, all these who lay me this laptist 91 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 5: or whatever. I'm literally wearing a hat right now. This 92 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 5: is where was hawks set. I mean, you know, we 93 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 5: we we hate the mayor of Indianapolis for what ethan 94 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 5: We call all of these people out. It's not a 95 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 5: Democrat or Republican. Then when we see bad Republican governance, 96 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 5: we talk about it. When we see bad Democrat governments, 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: we talk about it. Look, the country is run by Republicans, 98 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 5: the state is by Republicans. And I think what honked 99 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: a lot of people off is they saw Braun go 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 5: to the ends of the earth for this. He's still 101 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 5: tweeting about it. I heard you guys read it right 102 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 5: before you. 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: I was going to ask you what does this mean 104 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: for Governor Braun? 105 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 5: Rob Oh, He's done, though, he might as well pack 106 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 5: it up. He might as well just hand it over 107 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 5: to the new Rokeeta administration. It's no doubt they're plotting 108 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 5: for his run for governor. It's over for Braun. He 109 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 5: failed on property taxes, He failed on redistricting, and he 110 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 5: did the same thing on both things. He promised it, 111 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 5: he said it's going to happen, We're going to get 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 5: it done, and then he failed. These people like I 113 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 5: don't know what Broun's move is here, but I don't 114 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: see how he can possibly recover from this. 115 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: Does Braun get the blame for all of this from 116 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 3: like the Trump administration or does it go down to 117 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: Senate pro Tim Rod Bray Because I've always said, and 118 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: if you've listened to your program, if you've listened to 119 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: my program, here the hammer in Nigel show, Bray has 120 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: been a weasel for a long time. This is just 121 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: a cherry on top of the Sunday. Does he take 122 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: more heat than Braun or does it start at the top. 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 5: Well, Bray's a piece of garbage, we know that. But 124 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 5: I love the fact that when we were begging for 125 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 5: help to literally save millions of people billions of dollars 126 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 5: over time and help them afford to stay in their home. 127 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 5: Was anybody helping us then? Or these turning Point USA 128 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 5: people coming in where the National Republicans coming in with 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 5: Donald Trump tweeting about what a rotten dude Rod Bray 130 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 5: was no, of course not. And Mike Bron folded to 131 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 5: Rod Bray. Never forget this that Rod Bray or Mike 132 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 5: Bron caved to Rod Bray on the property tax deal. 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 5: He cave to Todd Houston the property tax deal. Those 134 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 5: were his buddies, those were his boys, and they did 135 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 5: him so dirty today. And I love that because Braun 136 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: has done the same thing twice. Now we're on property taxes. 137 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 5: He told me we got this man. I kept saying, Hey, 138 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 5: what else do you need to run? We got this man. 139 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 5: It's gonna be fine. He told Trump the same thing. 140 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 5: And redistricting, we got. This is gonna be fine. And 141 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 5: what happened. They don't respect the guy. They don't like 142 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 5: the guy and he got humiliated in front of the 143 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 5: nation today. 144 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: Going off the rails with Rob Kendall here on the 145 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: Hammer in Nigel Show. All right, so let's shift gears here. 146 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: I see you're in a little social media back and 147 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: forth with Representative Jim Lucas. It feels like this is 148 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: almost like the third or fourth round you guys have 149 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: put on here. This is an old rivalry that's heating 150 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: up again. What's going on with you and Representative lucas well. 151 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 5: Nothing because Billy Badass like being delete tweet guy, and 152 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 5: so he put out some Facebook posts earlier today. I 153 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: was told as around one o'clock and then I guess 154 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: deleted it because it doesn't exist anymore. That somehow me 155 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 5: going after these politicians in a peaceful, polite society, decent manner, 156 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: abiding by all FDC rules and regulations, somehow pointing out 157 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 5: how Republicans vote in Indiana, that I'm responsible for the 158 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 5: bomb threats and the swatting and everything else, and that 159 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 5: is just disgusting. Our program talks about how these guys vote. 160 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 5: We talk about why it's harmful to people. We talk 161 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 5: about the taxes they raise, we talk about utility bills, 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: we talk about all these things these guys do and 163 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 5: why it's harmful to be And he can't stand that 164 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 5: to the point where he puts out this Facebook post 165 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: basically accusing me of being responsible for all the stuff 166 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 5: that I had nothing to do with. 167 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: All Right, so we're going to try something here, and 168 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: if we hang up on you, then we'll have Allison 169 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: call you back again. 170 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: New Studio. 171 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: There's some things we're working out here. We're crossing our fingers. 172 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: We're going to try to bring on Representative Jim Lucas. 173 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: Mister Lucas, are you there? I am here, Okay, So 174 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: I think we may have accidentally hung up on Rob. 175 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: But we'll try to call Rob back here in just 176 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: a moment. But I don't know if you could hear 177 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: Rob right there. But he's like, look, it's not the 178 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: radio host's fault that people are getting swatting threats and 179 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: death threats. I'm calling balls and strikes. I'm calling it 180 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: how I see it. I'm just the radio guy. I'm 181 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: not changing anybody's laws here in Indiana. 182 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: Take me through your perspective on this little back and 183 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,119 Speaker 1: forth with Rob. 184 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 5: Wow. 185 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 4: I mean Rob has a lot to do with that 186 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: by the hate that he formans. I mean he calls 187 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: everybody up there, the elected officials that have run and 188 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 4: been elected by their communities, saying how they are stupid, 189 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 4: worthless cowards that couldn't run elimonade stand and how we 190 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: hate our constituents and that is just a horrible message 191 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: to send out on a regular daily basis, three hours 192 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: a day. I mean, that's he pounds that home. That's 193 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 4: his whole show is how much he says, we hate 194 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 4: everybody up there, and there's not a person I work 195 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 4: with on either side of the aisle. There's one hundred 196 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: and fifty of us, and then the governor's office. Nobody 197 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: hates their constituents. So him continually formating that is really 198 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: as people amped up. I was on the phone this 199 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: morning with police officers. I currently have a second person 200 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 4: that threatened. They said they wanted they're going to shoot 201 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: me in the face. 202 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: They made that threat. 203 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 4: Okay, Now I have a guy going he's on trial. 204 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: He's going to try in January for four felony counts 205 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: of death threats. Now that's just me. We've had over 206 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: a dozen just today, some really really good friends of 207 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 4: mine that are getting bomb threats at their home, you 208 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: know where they live at with their families. 209 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: Right. 210 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: But if Rob's being critical and I'm just being devil's 211 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: advocate here, if he's being critical of lawmakers who are 212 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: raising his taxes and screwing him on property taxes and 213 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: various other things, and he's like, you know what, I 214 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: think you guys hate us, and he rips you on 215 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: the air, I think that's a far cry from somebody 216 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 3: threatening to shoot you in the face, what. 217 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 4: But saying that we hate our constituents. You don't see 218 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: any connection there. 219 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: Let me bring Rob back. Rob. Are you there with 220 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: us right now? Do you hear the representative? 221 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: Rob? 222 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Can you hear it? 223 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 5: Sure? Sure I can. I can hear you. Jim. First 224 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 5: of all, why do you delete the post? 225 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: It wasn't worth the hassle. I mean, we've been through 226 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: it before. Everybody knows how I feel about you, and 227 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: I just I got tired of it. I can put 228 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: it back up if you want. 229 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: No. 230 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 5: No, I just think you're a total gutless coward. And Jim, 231 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 5: we go out of our way to tell people they 232 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: should engage with you. They should do it in a peaceful manner. 233 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 5: They do have the right to tell you what they 234 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 5: think of you. And I think if you are taking 235 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 5: money from people and wasting it on things like the IEDC, 236 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 5: hundreds of millions of dollars in corruption that was exposed. 237 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 5: Utility builds are here, rocketing, property taxes are out of control. 238 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 5: I do think you hate your constituents, and I have 239 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 5: told people that they should engage with you in a 240 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 5: peaceful manner. That is disgusting what you did today, Jim, 241 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: and you knew it was bad, and you knew you 242 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 5: were going to get blowback. That's why you took it down. 243 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 5: So you can apologize right now. Apologize, Jim, why'd you 244 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 5: take it down? 245 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 4: Kiss my ass? Rob, I'm not apologizing for anything. 246 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 5: I hope everyone is hearing this right now. This is 247 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 5: an elected official, a guy who drove drunk. He blew 248 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 5: through a barricade, he fled the scene, he lied to 249 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 5: the cop. And this is his response that the radio 250 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 5: guy who has no control over anything other than pointing 251 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 5: out how you vote and then engage with your constituents 252 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 5: in a peaceful manner, that I'm the bad guy and 253 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 5: I'm the fault of the swatting Jim. Most of the 254 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 5: people who have been swatted or had bomb threats, many 255 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: of them are on my side on this issue. That 256 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 5: makes zero sense. 257 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: Representative, I'll give you the final word in this little 258 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: back and forth here because time's a factor here. Representative, 259 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: I'll give you one more word and then I'll close 260 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: with Rob. 261 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: Well, I know what Rob's going to say. He's going 262 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: to come back and be negative, but to call me 263 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: at gutlass coward is laughable at best. Here, I am 264 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 4: I'm on here, I put up a post, I took 265 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: it down, and I put up posts like those before. Rob, 266 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: and you were always the same disingenuous, intellectually dishonest, narcissistic 267 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: ass that you are every day on the radio. And 268 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: so that's why people laugh at you anymore, because you're 269 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: the same broken record. 270 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 3: I think this is the most time somebody's called Rob 271 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: Kendall an ass as our group text where he was 272 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: jingxing a bed of mine, Nige, Rob, I'll give you 273 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: the the final word here. 274 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I'm always a joke. Nobody takes 275 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 5: me serious. But yet I'm so influential that somehow I'm 276 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 5: facilitating violent acts against or violent threats against the elect officials. 277 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 5: We were number one against this again this month, and 278 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: I hope everybody hears this. This guy is obsessed with me. 279 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 5: He's not obsessed with hundreds of millions of dollars of 280 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: fraud and abuse and corruption in the IDC. He's not 281 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 5: obsessed with your skyrocketing utility bills. He's not obsessed with 282 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 5: skyrocketing property taxes. He's not obsessed with one of the 283 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 5: highest gas taxes in the nation. He's obsessed with one guy. 284 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 5: One guy with the platform who talks about how he 285 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 5: votes and what he does, and his response is, you're 286 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 5: responsible for violence that you have nothing to do with. 287 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: That's your Indiana government, that's your Indiana General Assembly, that's 288 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 5: your Indiana Republican Party. 289 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: Thanks Jim, gentlemen, we're gonna stop it right there. 290 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: We appreciate both of you guys for coming on. It 291 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: takes for coming on, yeah, and. 292 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 3: It takes a big set of way host to come on, 293 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: and you guys went toe to toe. 294 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: We appreciate the hell out of that from both of 295 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: you guys. This is the Hammer and Nigel Show.