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Speaker 1: That the pressure is mounting because so many Republicans in

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Speaker 2: It makes no sense that we would even consider doing

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Speaker 2: And to your point yesterday, once Indiana does it, California's next.

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Speaker 2: But what's the point of redrawing lines because you have

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Speaker 1: But that's not my choice to make. The courts have

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Speaker 2: You would essentially control very important job absolutely for the

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Speaker 1: But we're so shady now in this country that even

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Speaker 2: It's it's hard to cheerlead for one team when one

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Speaker 1: Now Here's what's fascinating. They're sending the thing out in

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Speaker 1: You know who is their boss? And a constituent me?

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Speaker 1: You and me, Kevin. Yeah, you're listen. And this is

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Speaker 2: I listen, I'm one percent agree with you that this

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Speaker 2: Well, you your bulletproof over here to have flaon Rob,

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Speaker 1: Why. Okay, If you're living okay, let's just play this

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Speaker 1: my constituents aren't passionate about this. They're not for this.

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Speaker 1: But you see you're Yeah, you're hitting my point, which

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Speaker 2: The ship, which is which is kudos to those people

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Speaker 2: And cut specifically not eliminate the whole bill. Not you

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Speaker 2: imagine what would happen if they did that. Not only

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Speaker 1: But would you be surprised, No, given the fact that

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Speaker 1: They're shady, gutless, miserable, dishonest, rotten people.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the problem, though, And you have too

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Speaker 2: much control. Absolutely, Le's do whatever the.

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Speaker 1: Heck you want. Absolutely all right, Uh, Jerry Lopez in

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Speaker 1: keV is here. So Little League World Series is going

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Speaker 1: Little League International continues to monitor the complexity and ever

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Speaker 1: lot to get to on that, Jerry. First of all,

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Speaker 2: Listen, if I can find who's running that, I will

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Speaker 1: A stupid game. Well, you're right, and there has to

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Speaker 1: But you wouldn't bet on on little league baseball. There

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Speaker 2: That is also what happens if the coach is it

433
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 2: like that creates a whole lot of issues.

434
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Speaker 1: This is my point. If we get ever get to

435
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Speaker 1: a point where they legalize betting on twelve year olds.

436
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: We might as well just all the coaches are getting arrested.

437
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Speaker 1: Pack it in as a society. I mean, we might

438
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: as well. Just we might as well just call it

439
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: a life and say, I mean, do you bet on

440
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: grown men eating hot dogs? Yes?

441
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 2: Yes you do, Yes you do, it's a grown Well

442
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 2: I didn't, Hammer Dan, I just I'm not.

443
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm not that interested enough in it, like my bet

444
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: because they're kids. That's why you have the issue. Hammer

445
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: and I view betting very different. And we've talked about this,

446
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: like I will I really just bet on two things

447
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: primarily now football and golf, because I just don't have

448
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: time with a two year old. Like I used to

449
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: have all sorts of time, like I could bet on

450
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: things because I had the time to get interested in them.

451
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: I just don't have time anymore. Like I don't I

452
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: don't have a free two hours.

453
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: And the betting on kid stuff, man, no, like put

454
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: two kids together having crawl, put ten bucks on the

455
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Speaker 2: winter I do that. Like go to the you go

456
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: to the pacer game and they put the mom on

457
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Speaker 2: one side the kid crawls.

458
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Speaker 1: I'm like, give me twenty bucks on the third one

459
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Speaker 1: with the red pants. You're not that bad, are you.

460
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what's what's the most you've ever lost any

461
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: on a single bet? On a single bet? So I

462
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: this was years ago. We're talking ten years ago, which

463
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: would tell you something.

464
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ran up a really big pot, and I think,

465
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: do you mean you ran up a really like I

466
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 2: maybe started with one hundred bucks and I got to

467
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: like fifteen hundred dollars.

468
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: Oh, because you kept winning?

469
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And then I think I put I'll never

470
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: forget the game I had IU against North Carolina and

471
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: it might have been an EU, and I had EYEU

472
00:23:59,440 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: to win.

473
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: I put a thousand bucks. Aren't they lost? Oh? Wow? Yeah?

474
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: Like I'm sick, and like a true degenerate, I'm like,

475
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm still up for It's like a stock market, right.

476
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 2: I started with one, but that changed everything for me

477
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: because it was just gone and I'm like, oh, this sucks. Yeah,

478
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: even though it was money that you never had to

479
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: begin with, I did have it.

480
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: I did withdraw. Yeah, well that's my point. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

481
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: thousand that's a that's that'd be a rough.

482
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: Oh, it's horrible rough. I kind of stopped betting big

483
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: on after that.

484
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: Bidtime.

485
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: I mean, and now I think it's all rigged. Man, well,

486
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 2: and this is and we should have Matt Bear. You're

487
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: with me next week, right, yep, Tuesday.

488
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we should have maybe have Matt Bear or

489
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Speaker 1: Ryan Hendrick come on and talk about the idea of

490
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: the addictive personality because they have the supporting Sobriety podcast.

491
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: And look, addiction is addiction. And one of the things,

492
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: one of the things I had to recognize, and as

493
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: you get older you do is some people just have

494
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: addictive personalities. And part of being an adult is to recognize, Hey,

495
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: if I have a tendency for whatever, and I'm going

496
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: to participate in society, oh whatever, the thing is, I

497
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: got to put up like serious guardrails around myself and

498
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: just recognizing that I have an addictive personality that I've

499
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: always just I think I bet twenty dollars one time

500
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Speaker 1: on something.

501
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: I say, most of your bets are like a buck,

502
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: two bucks, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I

503
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: mean like I am.

504
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: In my account for the past two years, I'm up

505
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: an impressive amount given most of my bets are one

506
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: or two dollars. Like I think I'm up like fifty

507
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: bucks in my account or forty bucks in my account

508
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: over two years, which the idea any better would be

509
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: up is impressive. If I bet real money, it would

510
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: be like a sizeable amount, but you'd lose them if

511
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: you put in real money. Well, that's right, but I

512
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: also recognize, like it would not be fun for me,

513
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: Like I could bet ten cents on something get the

514
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: same joy whether it was one hundred dollars or ten cents.

515
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: It's the pride of winning. Yes, it's the play you

516
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: figured out.

517
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: I still want to bet, but I'm gonna put on

518
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: the guardrails that say, look, we're just gonna bet a

519
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: buck because I'm still gonna get excited.

520
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: Right. And then the other thing that that did for

521
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: me by never betting real money is I bet a

522
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: lot less because it's like if I bet on something,

523
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: I have to watch it, right, And it's like, well,

524
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: if there's some game and I don't care about it.

525
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: And I was just before I was married and had

526
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: a kid, I was like betting on things to get

527
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: and they would fully invest in it. If I don't

528
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: do that, they don't even have to watch the thing.

529
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: So I just saved myself three hours. Yeah, but you buddy,

530
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: I watch it all. Yeah, yeah, I literally watch it all.

531
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: I need to go to uh Jason Hammer School of

532
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: no parlays. Yeah, that's what I was. Really soccer bets, brother,

533
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: those are soccer bets. All right. I have to talk

534
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: about the most government thing ever. I had an experience

535
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: last night and I just I'm gonna need you to

536
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: like help me work through it because it just sounds

537
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: like the most government thing, the most government thing ever.

538
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: And someone who is really influential in American history passed

539
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: away yesterday, didn't get a ton of attention. We'll talk

540
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: about that too. It's Kenill Show ninety three w IBCs. Okay,

541
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you'd will help me work through event

542
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: I was exposed to last night. Helped me make some

543
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: sense of it. But before we do that, it's Kenel

544
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: and Casey Show. By the way, I'm Rob Jerry Lopez

545
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: in for Casey today on our YouTube chat. You can

546
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: watch the program on YouTube. Just put Kennel and Casey

547
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: in your YouTube bar. People have numbers next to their names, now,

548
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: have you noticed this? Yeah? Definitely so. Like our old

549
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: pal Whitmer, Stephen Whitmer of Indie Reporter, he's number two.

550
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: Somebody is number one? Yeah, Lib Lib Dragon. What does

551
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: that mean if you have a number next year? Think

552
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: it's the engagement in the chat itself. Oh so if

553
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: you if you engage, if you engage like you comment,

554
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: you you elevate yourself and you get a number next

555
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: to your name. Oh that's interesting. Uh, Drew Drew and

556
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: the YouTube chat ass did I know any of the

557
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: because last we were talking about the Little Little League

558
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: having an issue the statement on betting, and they asked,

559
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: did I know any of the Browns were kids that

560
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: went to the Little League World Series? Yes, true story.

561
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: I was on the state runner up Little League team

562
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six. That was before the lit League

563
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: World Series teams. But that was the furthest any team

564
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: had gone from Brownsburg, not only Brownsburg with the District one.

565
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: I was, Yes, it was the starting third baseman. We

566
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: were one game when we made it to the championship game.

567
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: I saw that game. What was on TV? Right? No?

568
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: Are you sure? No?

569
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: It was just to get out of there, like the region,

570
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: it was like to get out of the state. The

571
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: state championship.

572
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: Guys, have any studs that went on to play with

573
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: several guys that played college baseball. We made it all

574
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: the way to the We got in the loser's bracket.

575
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: First game, came all the way back, won every single game,

576
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: beat the team that won the state championship, and then

577
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: lost in the second game. You had to beat them

578
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: twice and we lost. I was I was great. It

579
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: sounds like I used to be a stud back what

580
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: I used to be. That's the story of my life.

581
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: I used to be everything is I used to be,

582
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: and then I grew up. Anyway, Okay, so let's talk

583
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: about what Steven do not spam the YouTube chat to

584
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: become number one? Okay. So I went to the uh

585
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: the town the town board meeting last night over there

586
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: in Brownsburg, and they finally had the big reveal on

587
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: all the people that were allegedly craving the one hundred

588
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: million dollar Amphitheater Rex Center. These people just center, their

589
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: eyes just light up when you walk in. Oh yeah,

590
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: by the way, the great thing about the town council

591
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: meeting now is people just bring me Arby's coupons. That's

592
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: multiple people brought me that. The Arby's coupons came out

593
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: in the mail yesterday and the little flyer thing that

594
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: comes out and multiple people yesterday in anticipation me being there,

595
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: they brought me the RB's coupon sheet, So I have enough.

596
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: I can do damage for another month based on what

597
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: I got yesterday. Infinite cheat code, that's right. So they

598
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: had the big reveal. So this is this is the

599
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: most government thing ever. So Brownsberg is a town of

600
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: about thirty thousand people now and Jerry, would you like

601
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: to guess? This was between online solicitation of the form

602
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: like Levisher comments whether you want this one hundred million

603
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: dollar monstrosity and they had multiple in person meetings, So

604
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: soliciting online for a month and then multiple in person

605
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: meetings in a town of thirty thousand people. Would you

606
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: like to guess the number? keV? You can participate in

607
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: this as well, prices right, rules, you go over, you lose.

608
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: In a town of thirty thousand people, How many citizens

609
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: do you think? Not four against just simply filled out

610
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: the form offering their commentary on whether they wanted this thing.

611
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: Would you like to guess the number? Five thousand, five thousand?

612
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: Jerry's in at five thousand, Kevin, would you like to

613
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: guess the number? Four hundred you both lose because you

614
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: are both over two hundred and thirteen out of thirty

615
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: thousand people that is, and that's not even some people

616
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: filled out who don't even live in the town. Oh

617
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: come on, you're looking at less than half of one

618
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: percent of the populace even filled out the form. And

619
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: then they use this like later on the like, Okay,

620
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 1: people accepted it. This is the information they're working off of.

621
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, thirty thousand people. We're talking something that

622
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: cost one hundred million dollars they're offering they're working off of. Now,

623
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: keep in mind, it was basically like fifty to fifty

624
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: of people who wanted it versus didn't. So you're looking

625
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: at less than one hundred people, zero point three percent

626
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: of the population over a month's period of time, cared

627
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: enough to even fill out the thing that said they

628
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: wanted it. And yet they're having some robust debate discussion

629
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: who knows what is going to ensue over the coming

630
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: weeks and months over whether they should spend one hundred

631
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: million dollars on something that want Basically one hundred people

632
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: voted on or suggested or what yes, and they put

633
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: it on the internet. You didn't even have to go

634
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: to anything you said to click and say I want it.

635
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: I have the right to be outraged over that, don't.

636
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: I like, this is the most government thing ever. I

637
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: mean ridiculous that they would even take it in consideration.

638
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: One hundred votes out of thirty thousand people, Yes, thank you,

639
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: Like we need more participation if we're going to take

640
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: this seriously. But this is happening everywhere. Were these people,

641
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: these people being our governing boards in cities and towns.

642
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: They just want something. They want to be able to say,

643
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: look at what we did, look at what we gave you.

644
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: It's happening at the state level, it's happening at the

645
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: federal level. Two, it's not because people are clamoring for it.

646
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: There may be a very loud, super does this sound familiar?

647
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: There may be a very loud, super vocal minority trying

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Speaker 1: to get people to do something. Charlie Kirk District, thank you.

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Speaker 1: But the majority of people don't even care enough to respond.

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Speaker 1: And yet we're wasting all this time. They told me

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Speaker 1: at one of these meetings they had spent three hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars on the design process of this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: To show it to the people to ask him if

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Speaker 1: they wanted it, three hundred thousand dollars to have one

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Speaker 1: hundred people, maybe maybe one hundred people say they want it.

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Speaker 1: But yet every year we have to have a debate

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Speaker 1: about whether we should raise the water and sewer rate

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Speaker 1: because there's apparently no money for that. Right But somewhere

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Speaker 1: they're gonna find one hundred million dollars for an amphitheater,

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Speaker 1: rex center, and aquatic center, and one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: just to ask if you like it. The property tax

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Speaker 1: rate in this community has stayed relatively flat for ten years,

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Speaker 1: so there's no there's no ability to cut property taxes.

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Speaker 1: We're so start for money. But yet somehow we're gonna

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Speaker 1: move heaven and Earth and mental pretzel ourselves into where

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Speaker 1: we're gonna come with one hundred million dollars for all

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Speaker 1: of this other stuff that one hundred people care enough

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Speaker 1: to fill out and say they wanted.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can always just repeal the property property tax

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Speaker 2: cut in SB one if he does a special session,

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Speaker 2: and then you got some more money there, you.

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Speaker 1: Go, All right, it's Kettil Casey show. Somebody famous, Well

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Speaker 1: is infamous? Bad? Yeah? Is it? I think Okay, what

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Speaker 1: are you if you're if you did something historic but

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Speaker 1: you're not really well known or famous for it, what

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Speaker 1: do we call that? Like you you were a part

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Speaker 1: of something very important to change human history, but you

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Speaker 1: don't get the like people don't who filmed the moon landing?

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows who that guy's at? Well was that the

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Speaker 1: second guy that was on the moon. Wasn't his name?

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Speaker 1: Look it's uh Bill Neil's order, Yeah, Neil Neil, Neil

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.

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Speaker 2: There was other people there. There was a third guy, somebody,

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Speaker 2: somebodybody filmed. No, well, no, didn't somebody have to stay

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Speaker 2: on the ship. That was the deal, right, we call

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Speaker 2: that guy.

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Speaker 1: Look, let's look this up right now, there was a

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Speaker 1: third guy who had to stay on the ship. Three

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Speaker 1: guys who landed on the moon. Let's see if AI

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Speaker 1: is that good? If I put three guys who landed

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Speaker 1: on the moon. Have you already looked this up? I did? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And is that what you entered? Michael? Well, it was

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Speaker 1: the Wikipedia link. Michael Collins, What did you enter to

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Speaker 1: get you directly to that third guy moonlanding? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: that's how good AI is now? And what's his name,

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Speaker 1: Michael Collins? Does anybody never heard? Right? Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: the Michael Collins Award. That's what we're gonna start calling

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Speaker 1: because think about in elementary school, high school, college news reports.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows what did they do? Rock paper scissors? Like,

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Speaker 1: he got screwed and forgot, and he has forgotten in history,

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Speaker 1: and he took all the risks that the rest of

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Speaker 1: those people took. He got on the ship, he went

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Speaker 1: up to the moon, he had to come back to earth.

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Speaker 1: Did Michael Collins get book deals? Speaking deals? Is he?

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Speaker 1: Does he have you know, institutions named after him? No,

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Speaker 1: So we will now call this the Michael Collins Award.

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Speaker 1: Going forward, Jeff Bezos' mother passed away. She was I

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Speaker 1: think seventy eight years old. She had been ill for

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Speaker 1: quite some time. But Jeff Bezos' mother and I had

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Speaker 1: no idea about this, gave him the money in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety five to start Amazon. Oh wow, so she had money.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars was the and it

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Speaker 1: was like Trump. You know, my father gave me a

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Speaker 1: small loan of one million dollars in the seventies, which

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Speaker 1: was you know who knows how much that is today.

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Speaker 1: But Jeff bezos mother and I had no idea about this.

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Speaker 1: There would have been no Amazon had she not invested

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars her and her husband.

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Speaker 1: I believe her husband was not Jeff Bezos' biological father,

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Speaker 1: but they invested two hundred fifty thousand dollars in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety five in him in Amazon or what became for

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Speaker 1: him to start what became Amazon, became a billionaire, and

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Speaker 1: he I saw an interview that he gave where he

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Speaker 1: basically said, I had to make Amazon work because I

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Speaker 1: could not stand the thought of letting my mother down.

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Speaker 1: Like it wasn't even about him. It was like, they

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Speaker 1: gave me all this money, and this has to work,

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Speaker 1: and I could not run the risk of losing my parents' money.

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Speaker 1: And obviously Amazon is this societal juggernaut earth, as you said,

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Speaker 1: multi billion dollar company. He's one of the two or

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Speaker 1: three richest people in the world.

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Speaker 2: And it all started because his obscure mother gave him

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Speaker 2: two hundred and.

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Speaker 1: Fifty thousand dollars. What's the most amount money you're ever

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Speaker 1: gave you for anything? Oh? Man, we're not. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know. We're not talking about any chunk of change.

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Speaker 1: Like they never give you money like buy a house.

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Speaker 2: So they've passed on life lessons to me. That's what

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Speaker 2: I got. Those are priceless, rop Those are priceless. Well,

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Speaker 2: they literally came over on a boat for you. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean they did their they did their part. They

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Speaker 2: didn't give you anything financially, but they she.

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Speaker 1: Can hold it over. I didn't have to come over here,

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Speaker 1: did they did? She did? She used to do that.

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Speaker 2: Did your mom ever look at you and go, I

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Speaker 2: didn't have to come over here if you were misbehavior?

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Speaker 2: And now that I'm older, I'm like, wow, you left

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Speaker 2: everything behind it.

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Speaker 1: Come over here. You don't owe me anything. Did you

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Speaker 1: when she said that to you in the moment when

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Speaker 1: you were a kid, did you brush that off when

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Speaker 1: she was like yes, I did. Yeah, you didn't understand it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, nobody asked you to, because what a

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Speaker 1: card to say. You know, I literally got on a

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Speaker 1: boat and risk my life for you.

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Speaker 2: You could be in communism, brother, Yeah, all right, let's

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Speaker 2: take a break.

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Speaker 1: Jerry's in for Casey. When we come back, Tom Labianco

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Speaker 1: is going to join us. He is the guy who

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Speaker 1: broke the AI porn Pornngate story. He's had several updates,

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Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts on that will get the

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Speaker 1: latest on what's going on in the allegations that AI

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Speaker 1: porn was viewed and shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office.

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Speaker 1: It's Kenny Casey Show the three duple you have you

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Speaker 1: seem