1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Joining us now the man of the hour, Chris Ballard. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: It's always a home game when the when when the 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: combine rolls around. So you got that going for you, 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: So he'll join us series. He sits down and gets 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: miked up here on ninety three five and one on 6 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,079 Speaker 1: seven to five the fan. He's always kind enough to 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: do this every year for us. And as he puts 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: on the headset right there, Chris, welcome back, thank you 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: to see you again. Oh oh, goodnes see you. Is there 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: such a thing as an offseason, like even five days 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: or anything? 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: It's he put this mic on, So we're good now. 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: You know when I moved in, so I was you know, 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 2: I was an area scout for a long time. And 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: the good thing about it being an area scout is 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: you're on the road, but you're home. Like you on 17 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: the road, but you're home and you're working from home. 18 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: When you move in the office. On the pro side, 19 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: there's you're in the office. I mean like when it 20 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: starts in July, we don't get off until after the draft. 21 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: So it's a grind, but it's a it's when you're 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 3: doing what you love to do. 23 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: I've never saw it as work, so real fortunate, But 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: there's never a time off. There's not There's just that's 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: that's just the way it is. And I don't know 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: if I could take you know, I don't I don't 27 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: know if I could take a lot of time off. 28 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just so used to working. I mean, 29 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: that's all I've done my whole life. So feel fortunate 30 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: and blessed to be able to do what I do 31 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: and and be involved every day. 32 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: Chris, thank you for the time. 33 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: This time last year was a lot about defensive back 34 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: when you chatted with us here. Do you view defensive 35 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 4: line now in that light this year in terms of 36 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 4: the all season focus? 37 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like you've got to I think you believe. 38 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: I believe you went up front. I've always believed that's 39 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: been a core belief and so there's no question it. 40 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: You know, every year we try to do the best 41 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: we can to make sure we have a front that 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: can win, because when it really shows up is later 43 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: in the season and that's when your depth shows up. 44 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: So it is a priority for us here going forward. 45 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: Uh, draft wise, you know, obviously prospects starting talk to 46 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 4: the media today, you guys have done extraordinary job at 47 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: drafting offensive line. 48 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: Then in your tenure, when. 49 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: You look at that position group specifically really outside of 50 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: round one, you have why do you feel like you've 51 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 4: been so successful? 52 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: I would tell you it was a lot. 53 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: It was the one put, it was the it was 54 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: the hardest to learn, Okay, it just took years to 55 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: learn what played in the league and then what was 56 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: successful in the league. Being with Jerry Angelo, I thought 57 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: he thought he did a really good job. Bobby DePaul 58 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: at the time, who was our pro director, and then 59 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: going with coach Reid and JOHNS Dorsey really kind of 60 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: clarified everything. Okay, here's what we're looking for and here's 61 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: what succeeds in the league. You gotta get a little 62 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: luck sometimes where it falls your way, which we've you 63 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: know gotten, But on the flip side of that, we've 64 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: been able to identify the right traits and a player 65 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: that can make them successful. I he you know Will 66 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: Fries who went on and you know has had a 67 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: heck of a career and as a seventh round pick 68 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: and done tremendous. 69 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 3: So our group does a great job. 70 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we talked consistently about it, and it's always 71 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: going to position that you don't ever want to go 72 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: short because it when when the season hits. I mean, 73 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: take quarterback out of the equation. The bigs are the 74 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: hardest to find on the on the street. They're just 75 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: not there, you know. And that's why you've always seen 76 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: us go heavy on the old line d line. That's 77 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: as the attrition through this season, you know, builds up, 78 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: and it does. I mean every year, the team you 79 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: start with in August is never the same team you're 80 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: getting you're playing with in December. So you've got to 81 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: have enough depth, and the bigs are the ones you 82 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: always got to try to find and stay with. 83 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: Conversely, d N has not had anywhere near that sort 84 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 4: of success. Why and has your evaluation of that position 85 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: group needed to change draft wise over the years. 86 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, you know, And you're right, we've not produced. 87 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: The one real disappointing thing for me is we've not 88 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: found a guy that you know, is an elite rusher. 89 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: I think we've had good rusher. I think a lot 90 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: too still is coming into his own. It takes time 91 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: to learn how to rush in this league, and us 92 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: not being in the playoffs has not been able to 93 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: show kind of the world you know how he plays 94 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: and not getting that exposure. 95 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: So I do think he has a lot of upside. 96 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: And look, I don't want to take anything away from 97 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: some of the guys Quity pay play good football for us. 98 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: Sometimes the expectations of a first round pick, no matter 99 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: if he's the first pick of the draft or the 100 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: twentieth pick of the draft, everybody think, Okay, he's automatically 101 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: going to be a ten to fifteen sack guy automatically, 102 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: And that's that's not the case. 103 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: To giggles sometimes because I think we broke. 104 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: The sack record a couple of years ago, and we 105 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: did it without, you know, without Freennie and Mathis who 106 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: were you know? In my mind, you know two hall 107 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: of fame, one of them already in the Hall of Fame. 108 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: The other one should be Chris. 109 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: When you look back on last season, obviously all had 110 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 5: the eight and two star finish a nine. Can look 111 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 5: at it through two lenses of we were great the 112 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 5: first half, not scrit second half. How do you evaluate 113 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 5: the whole thing when you know it's year to your 114 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 5: league and your final records eight nine. 115 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: Well the one Shane and I have talked a lot 116 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: about this and We've talked about it as a group, 117 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, coaching staff and scouting that like the we 118 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: got to find a way to win, you know, these 119 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: tough ball games. We lost so many down the stretch 120 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: that were you know, a play here, play there, And like, 121 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: injuries are not an excuse in this league. 122 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: They're just they're gonna happen. 123 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: Injuries are gonna happen, and you've got to be able 124 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: to overcome that. And you've got to be able to 125 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: get in a street fight sometimes and win the street fight. 126 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: And like, don't like one thing I've told Shane this 127 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: little hunt, like don't lose. 128 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: Let's start with don't lose the game. 129 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: Okay, if you look at our record eight and two, 130 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: and we were playing really good football, I think we 131 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: were plus nine and then you look at the last 132 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: the last eight games of the season, I think we're 133 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: minus nine, are minus ten. So just turning the football 134 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: over and not playing taking care of the things that 135 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: you have to do to win. We have got to 136 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: improve on that, without question, and it's hard. I don't 137 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: want to sit here and say I don't think eight 138 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: and two is mirage. I think we had a really 139 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: good football team. But even if we'd have remained healthy. Okay, 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: everybody's healthy, and we're going you can't play and turn 141 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: the ball over and do things that are not winning football. 142 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. 143 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: So we've we've got to prove and excited about you know, 144 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: the things we have coming back and the plan we 145 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: have going forward. 146 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: So we'll go from. 147 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 5: There along those lines. Chris, what is the balance of 148 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 5: believing in what you saw when you were eight and 149 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 5: two and then talking to saying yesterday, talking to you 150 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 5: over the years, knowing that you can't get too caught 151 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: about what you were because baslely especially it changes on 152 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: a dime. 153 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and every year is different, every team's different. It's 154 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 2: never the same. And I can't send or say okay, 155 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: look back, snap my fingers, say Okay, everything's gonna be Okay. 156 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: We were eight and two. We're just gonna go off that. Now. 157 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: Now we have improvement we have to make in a 158 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: lot of different areas on the team. We had to 159 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: continue to increase the depth of our team and the 160 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: competition our team and then allow our guys to compete 161 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: and guys that are earning it making sure they're getting 162 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: on the field. But every year is different. This is 163 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: a new year. We're excited about where we're going, but 164 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: we got work to do. We do and it's a 165 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: bunch of work, and you know, between now and start 166 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: of the season, you know we're gonna work pretty effort, 167 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, tireshly to get it done. 168 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: One more and I'll pass it to Jeff. But talk 169 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 5: about work to do. We talk a lot about al 170 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 5: Pearce and obviously Daniel Jones another free agent to be, 171 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 5: isn't it cross? How would you evaluate his season the 172 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: last couple of years and also what he means to 173 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: this team and possibly trying to bring him back. 174 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: It was Nick was a so we it's never a 175 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: player's fault when you draft him at twenty years old. 176 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: You know, they don't get they we choose them, okay, 177 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: And so to what, Nick's still a I think he's 178 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: still twenty four. He might have turned twenty five, but 179 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: he I think he's twenty four still. So we drafted 180 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: him at twenty and then we were we thrust him 181 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: into a trying to get him in there right away, 182 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: and he just wasn't quite ready. And so to watch 183 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: his growth has been really, you know, fun to watch 184 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: I've said this multiple times, like one of the really 185 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: neat things about the job is watching guys mature and 186 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: turn into men. You know, they're not men when they 187 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: come into this league. They think they are, but they're not. 188 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: But to watch them mature, U turn in two men 189 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: into professionals. 190 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: And that's when one of the cool things about Nick, 191 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: he does mean a lot. 192 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: We have a lot of moving parts here, so we'll 193 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: see how it works out. We've we've had talks with 194 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: his representative. I've known him well, and I'm proud of Nick, 195 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: and I'm happy for Nick. And look sometimes like for 196 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: players and I and I tell him this when they're rookies, 197 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: like they're gonna come a point when you and I 198 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: don't agree, and you don't like me because of finances, 199 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: don't like. 200 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: There's a there's this big pie, and I can we 201 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: can slice it. 202 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: Up and and give that piece of the pie, and 203 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: somebody might be willing to give you a bigger piece 204 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: of the pie. 205 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 3: And if that happens, good. We've both done our jobs. 206 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: We've done our. 207 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: Job developing you, and you've done an unbelievable job taking 208 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 2: the coaching and getting better and each and every year 209 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: and you deserve this opportunity. So we'll see what the 210 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: future holds with Nick. I'm proud of him. I'm happy 211 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: for him. He made it the free agency and he's 212 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: he's made it on a high note. So we'll see 213 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: how that works out. 214 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: Talk about secondary if money war decides to come back, 215 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: And we don't know that answer quite yet, but do 216 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: you still get excited about the possibility of having everybody 217 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: that you put together last year healthy and able to 218 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: play for a significant chunk of a season. Talk to 219 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: me about what you think of health right now for 220 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: that overall group and what you think is possible. 221 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: Well, look, it's a it's a very you know, we're humming, 222 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: it's a very talented group. And Mooney, like, Mooney's a 223 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,239 Speaker 2: really special young man and he's been through some hard 224 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: things in life. Okay, I talked to Mooney this morning. 225 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: I called him drivers the best. His voice just sounded 226 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: really positive and good of where he's at all. 227 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: Right, and uh, and he went to work. 228 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: He knew he had to do some work, not just 229 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: you know, on the injury stuff, but you know also personally, 230 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: you know, he's had some hard things in his life 231 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: that he's had to overcome, and that's not easy. And 232 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: then being able to get you know, if if Mooney's here, 233 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: which you know anticipating, yes, but if he's here, and 234 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: then you know you got sauce. When you have two 235 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: corners that can play man to man, it helps the 236 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: rest of it. 237 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: It's gonna allow Lou. 238 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: And the defense to do a defensive staff to do 239 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: some things that I think is really gonna help us. 240 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: And I think you saw. 241 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: Some really good stuff when they were in there together, 242 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: like when the Kansas City game, like when they played 243 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: now they ended up having to play ninety five snaps, 244 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: and look, the more snaps you give Andy Reid and 245 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes, eventually they're gonna, I don't I don't care 246 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: who you got, they're gonna they're gonna get you. But 247 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: we played a lot of mando man in that game, 248 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: and they held up really well for a long time. 249 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: So excited about seeing, you know, trying to get those 250 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: two on the field together and and seeing what they 251 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: could do. 252 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: Get in live here at the Combine and Chris Ballard 253 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: Colts gm IS with us on radio row. Chris, you've 254 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: largely had the same captains throughout this playoff drought. How 255 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: do you evaluate the leadership of your football team when 256 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: a the playoff success hasn't been there be the late 257 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: season collapses have been pretty annual. 258 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and that's a fair that's a fair question. 259 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: Shane and I have actually we've had discussions about that 260 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: because we have really I mean, look, y'all go through 261 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: a locker room. 262 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: We have really good dudes. 263 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: They care, they want to win, They do everything they 264 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: can in their power to do the right things. We 265 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: we have to make sure that they're getting I mean, 266 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: you know, leaders, you know, we got to help them 267 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: lead sometimes, if that makes sense. I mean, we all 268 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: have growth to do, even all, I mean I have 269 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: growth to do in that area and they do, and 270 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: we need to do We need to help them grow 271 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: along the way too of things that we want done 272 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: to make sure that that is getting spread through the 273 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: locker room. I think Shane does a really good job now. 274 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: But you know, just at this at this time, you know, 275 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: because of the results, it hadn't been what we wanted. 276 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: So we've got to make sure that we're leading them 277 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: in the right direction. To you expect Zia Franklin back, 278 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 2: We'll see love Zaire. I think like my relationship with him. 279 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: He's very honest and he's very strong willed. Darius was 280 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: very similar Leonard and usually good players are like that. 281 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: So we'll see how it plays out. I'm a when football. 282 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this. 283 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: When football is over, Zaire Franklin is going to be 284 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: a star and whatever he decides to do in life. 285 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: He is smart, he is extremely mentally tough. He's everything 286 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: you want in a in a in a player in 287 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: terms of makeup. So was a fan of the podcast, 288 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 2: needless to say, Zaire and I've had some some some discussions. 289 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: About the podcast. Look, here's what I do like. 290 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: I love that he's passionate about what could be next 291 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: in life, like every one of our players. I want 292 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: that for But also, you know, sometimes we've got to 293 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: learn to temper some of the words that come out 294 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: of our mouths. 295 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: Chris, and that includes me. This is not that includes 296 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: me too. That's growth right there, Chris. 297 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 5: Words this morning from Chris Baalley, and we have close 298 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 5: you know, Chris Baalor live from the Combine joining us 299 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 5: here on the fan morning. So, Chris, when you look 300 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 5: at Anthony's entire tenure here in Indianapolis, how would you 301 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 5: evaluate it? 302 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: Number one? 303 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 5: And number two, we'll like, how Crystal is his future here? 304 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 5: And I get that you believe in him. You've been 305 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 5: championing him since for everything up in ups and downs, 306 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 5: and I mean I've been guilty of criticizing you and 307 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 5: and him. 308 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: But when he doesn't and Daniel exactly all of them, 309 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. 310 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: But my point is, when you're evaluating him, how do you, 311 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 5: I guess, figure out what his future is here when 312 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 5: you're also trying to resign Daniel Jones and Riley has 313 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 5: shown some. 314 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: Things as well. 315 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, you can never have enough good players at 316 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: one position. 317 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: All right. 318 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: Let's let's that's They might not be always happy about it, 319 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: but you can't have enough good players. And look, it 320 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: is hard to evaluate him right now. Anthony's still young. 321 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he is still young. I want to say, 322 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: he's twenty four years old, all right, So the future 323 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: is still in front of Anthony. The injuries always make 324 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: it tough to finish it, to get a complete evaluation. 325 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: And look, if you. 326 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: Look at the history of some of these quarterbacks that 327 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: have gotten hurt early in their careers and had some 328 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: real struggles, but they come out the other Side's kind 329 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: of like I talked about yesterday about you know, you 330 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: got to stand at the end of the edge of 331 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: the abyss and not jump. He hasn't jumped, which is 332 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: a is a good thing. I'm proud of him. He's 333 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: had some unfortunate in bad luck. But we'll see how 334 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: it goes going forward. I know this, he works. I 335 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: know this offseason he's worked. He's working with his guy 336 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: down there that I think a lot of and so 337 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: we'll see what the future holds with him. 338 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of that, what did you think of the late 339 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: season performance of Riley Leonard? 340 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: It was fun, I mean look as fun to watch. 341 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: I mean it was the game wasn't too big for him, 342 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: which is always number one thing you look at, you know, 343 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: is the game too fast and too big for him? 344 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: And it's not. 345 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: And you're some about a young man that played in 346 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: a lot of big games in college, so that that 347 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: part really didn't surprise us because it wasn't too big 348 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: for him. His ability to like he has worked really 349 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: hard mechanically getting the ball out faster like he took 350 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: to like our internally, our guys do a we bring 351 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: a guy named Chris hes who who does some sequencing 352 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: analog on our quarterbacks, and you know, he had some 353 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: sek I mean, all of it's a it's a constant 354 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: involvement when you're talking mechanics of quarterbacks, like they're always 355 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: it's like a picture. 356 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: They're always working it. And he took the. 357 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: Information and worked with our strength staff really hard on 358 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: things he needed to he needed to do with his sequencing, 359 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: and it's getting better and it was fun to watch 360 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: in that Houston game. 361 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 3: It all kind of come together. Now. 362 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: You know, like any young quarterback, you're gonna you know, 363 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: you got to live with the ups and downs. 364 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: But but he's really smart. 365 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: He's got really good poise, and he can create Those 366 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: are things that I think you saw in the games 367 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: he played in. I thought to throw the against I mean, 368 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: look when when Daniel got hurt, when we all were 369 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: at the game, you could feel kind of a like. 370 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: The energy just get sucked. He came in the game 371 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: and played well. 372 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: If you remember, he threw the he threw the ball 373 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: to Pittman on a back shoulder for a touchdown that 374 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: you know, whether I agree with the car or not, 375 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: it was p I but still in the moment of 376 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: when and he had just come in the game that 377 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: that kind of gave us some hope. Okay, look it's 378 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: not big for me. He can make some plays. And 379 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: then going into the Houston game against look that first 380 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: half that was their starting defense and he performed well. 381 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: But like any young quarterback, we got to work on 382 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 2: the turnovers. Can't turn the ball over and you know 383 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: there's sometimes where a play is dead and you just 384 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: got to understand it's dead. 385 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: That's part of his growth. But excited about Riley and 386 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: where he's going. 387 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 4: Do you see an extension for Alec as an either 388 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 4: or if Pitt is back? 389 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 3: No, No, I think we got it. We're still we'll 390 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: work through that. 391 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: I mean, like plans can be a little I wish 392 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: there was a like you could just write on Okay, 393 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: here's the plan, this is how it's gonna go. This 394 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 2: is the amount of money this guy's gonna cost. This 395 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: is and it fits into a perfect box. Well, unfortunately 396 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: that box is it gets determined sometimes by the market, 397 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: all right, which it does, and so it's it's fluid, 398 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: it's very fluid. 399 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 4: Would you say that to achieve the off season goals, 400 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: you might have to part ways with guys, you've resigned 401 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: and or restructure, which is a little bit foreign for. 402 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: You that that could happen. Yeah, that could happen. The 403 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: good look, here's the good news. 404 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: Like going forward, we're in very good cap and financial shape. 405 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: Mike Bloom has done a really good job making sure 406 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: that not only this year, but you know future years 407 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: are set up in a way where you know we 408 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: can We're still open to do business. We've not ever 409 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: boxed ourselves in to where we're hamstrung on what we 410 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: can do. 411 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: Chris, you were pretty quick in the NFC and press 412 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: conference to bag Daniel Jones to say he can be 413 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 5: your short and long term solution at quarterback. Why do 414 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 5: you believe in him so much? In do you think 415 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: that commitment to him was already made because this is 416 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 5: how we evaluated. Hey gave him two first round picks 417 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 5: of saws Gardner. You don't do that if you don't 418 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 5: believe in your quarterback. So what are your thoughts on 419 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: that part of it and also just moving forward trying 420 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 5: to get him here? 421 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: Yep, No, have a strong belief in Daniel and you 422 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: know he he's a quarterback that did he had to go. 423 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: You know, if he went to New York, had some 424 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: struggles early, and I still thought even through the struggles, 425 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: he played pretty good football. And you know, take him 426 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: to the playoffs, when's a playoff game. They signed him 427 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: to extension and then kind of the wheels came off. 428 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: So he is a quarterback that's standing stood on the 429 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: end of the abyss and did not jump. And when 430 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: we got him, just his daily professionalism and the way 431 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: he works and then to perform, to go out and perform. 432 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: Gave you some confidence. Look, I can't sit here and say. 433 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: There's always going to be some doubt when it comes 434 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: to injuries, because look, he's had he's had some, but 435 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: there's been some other cases that we've studied and looked 436 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: at where they've had some injuries too. Quarterbacks have and 437 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: they've come back and they've had long, successful careers. I'm 438 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: willing to bet on that, and I'm willing to bet 439 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: on you know, Daniel just because of who he is, 440 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: what he stands for, and his his passion to play 441 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: the game and to be great at the game. 442 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: It's a he. He is a He's not just a 443 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 3: nine to five guy. 444 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 2: I'll never forget where DT David Thornton and I were 445 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: walking out of the building for the seat. We had 446 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: just named him the Starter about a week before. And 447 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: we're walking out of the building about eight thirty at 448 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 2: night and Daniel comes walking back in the building with 449 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: some food. I said, what are you doing because I 450 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: got to I'm getting ready, you know, for the you know, 451 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: for our first game. And here's I got some things 452 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: I need to finish up. He'd gone to eat and 453 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: he's like, I got to come back and finish this 454 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: stuff up. So no, I'm will you bet on a 455 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: guy that that like that, that he's gonna come out 456 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: the other end the way we want it to happen. 457 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 5: And then Chris, you're going into your tenth season, goes 458 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 5: going through Google and you look a little younger back then. 459 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 5: I guess we all did a I was in high 460 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 5: school or whatever college. 461 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: See this, Hey, hey, you don't have that. You know why, 462 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: because you don't have any stress all this gray? See 463 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: the difference. No, but you got that fit, but you 464 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: got that sick. 465 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: I can't I can't die this because it's come out 466 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: gray and if I diet, everybody will give me cramp 467 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: for it. 468 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: It's starting to show up on you. 469 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: You got about and look here and let me tell 470 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: you something, James, next time I see you, they better 471 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: not be They better not be black. 472 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: Isn't your guy? Oh no, he's, no doubt. 473 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 5: But along those lines, and you know, jokes aside, you 474 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: say you always feel the pressure to deliver going to 475 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 5: a year where for the first time of your career, 476 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: going to find your your does the pressure change it 477 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: all throughout your experience? Does it change you at all? 478 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 5: When you're going through a job like this where every 479 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 5: single thing that you do is going to be evaluated, judged, critiqued. 480 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 5: I'll probably do it myself again this week. Like how 481 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 5: do you handle that and deal with that knowing that 482 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 5: you want to deliver so badly and you could be 483 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 5: running out of time? 484 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I like the time thing. I never like. 485 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: I don't get stressed about that. I'm passionate about. Like 486 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: when you look, I've had three I'll tell you this, 487 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: I've had three jobs. Four jobs really since college. Okay 488 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: five if you count Hitchcock Junior High but Kingsville whereas 489 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: fortunate to learn a lot, Chicago, Kent City in here. 490 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 2: I've been really blessed in every place I've left it 491 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: has been hard, okay, and why because I invest in 492 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: people and I and I don't. 493 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 3: This is I don't. 494 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: I've never seen it as just a job. It's about 495 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: the people in the building, connecting with the people in 496 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: the building and caring. And every place I've left I've 497 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: had tears because of it. And one day it'll happen 498 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: here in Indy, all right, you know, sooner or later. 499 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: Nobody I can't tell the future. But there's nothing more 500 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: that I want than to win for the fans of 501 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 2: this city. They deserve it. We have great fans, great people. 502 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: I love the city, I love the way. Look they're respectful. 503 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: I know on social media they're not respectful because they're 504 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: too chicken. Come say it in person. Excuse can you blink? 505 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: Did you blink that mark? But saying that, we've got 506 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: We've got unbelievable fans and nothing more. I want to 507 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: win for them, and we're gonna put every year, we 508 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: put every bit of our effort into doing that. It's 509 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: hard to be in the arena. It's not for everybody 510 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: like it's not this when when you work in a 511 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: in a in a profession where everything you do is 512 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: going to be scrutinized right or wrong. 513 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 3: That's just you know what we do. 514 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you, like for my children, it's 515 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: been like this has been a cool thing for them, 516 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: kind of a cool outcome because they've seen the criticism 517 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: I take, and it, of course, look at it hurts them, 518 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: but they have figured out that, you know, I tell 519 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: them all the time, don't ever let another don't ever 520 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 2: let another man walk with her dirty feet in your mind. Okay, 521 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: do do the best you can do at anything you're doing, 522 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: and don't for one second look back and regret anything 523 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: that has happened along the way. You can't please everybody 524 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: all the time, nothing more. There's nothing more I want 525 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: than being able to celebrate with our city on town 526 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: and that's still the vision and that's still the goal. 527 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 3: All right. 528 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: Last thing for me, I know that you and Rick 529 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Carlisle will have each other's backs. He's let them back 530 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: and forth with the NBA with the last twenty four hours. 531 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: Anything you got for Adam Silver of the NBA today 532 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: On the Pacers, look, I. 533 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 2: Don't know enough about it other than I love Rick 534 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: Carlisle and I love the Pacer organization, and I think 535 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: they're freaking really good at their jobs. 536 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. You're getting the head. 537 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: I know about it. I know Matt, he knew. I 538 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 3: was wanting to give an answer to. 539 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: They can't find me, I mean, Silver can't find me 540 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: if I tell them they screwed him for freaking finding 541 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: them a hundred grand I don't work for the NBA 542 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: and I never will. I mean, I don't know what 543 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: to tell you. I mean, they screwed them. I mean, 544 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: I know Rick, he's got integrit, I know the organization. 545 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: I shouldn't get match back. They're shaking his head. Anyway. 546 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: We're good. 547 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming by. We do. Thanks for the time. 548 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: Thank y'all. Aerated