1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about it redistricting. I mean, let's talk 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: about it more and again. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: This conversation has been going on since the end of July, 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: and it seems like it is coming to a climax. 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Kendall and Casey Show. My name 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: is Casey. Jim is in for Rob who right now 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: at this point, I'm sure would love to be in 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: the studio to fight with our next guest, and that 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: is Representative Andrew Ireland. Andrew, thank you for coming in 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: this morning. He's in the studio. If you'd like to watch, 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: you can do that. Type in Kendal and Casey into 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: the YouTube search bar. And before we begin, I want 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: to congratulate you for being honored on having the highest 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: Freedom Index rating of any Indiana lawmaker this year. 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: What exactly does that mean? 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: Thank you? So, you know's a rating based on how 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 3: you vote. You know, it's a culative score over time, 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: based on different bills that come up and how you 19 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: approach it. Really focused on constitutional values, you know, basic freedom, 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: your individual liberties, whether or not you're voting consistent with 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: the US Constitution. And you know that's something I really 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: pride myself in. I think it's something that's really important 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: and one of the things I ran on from the beginning. 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: So I'm happy to see that the score reflects exactly 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: what I said i'd do. 26 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, congratulations. Somebody tagged me on Twitter and they said, 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: please ask him real questions. Don't just use these softball 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: type questions that get lobbed all the time to anyone 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: with a political opinion. 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Are you ready for the tough question? 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: Hit me with the hardest questions you got. 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, before we get into the Voting 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: Rights Act and how this affects Indiana and across the nation. 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you because Governor Brawn made an 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: announcement November third is when the special session will happen. 36 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Is that what you've been told? 37 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: It's right. I saw the tweet this morning. The Governor, 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: I think is officially called a special session to convene 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: on November the third. Whether or not we actually come 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: in on the third or maybe a couple of days later, 41 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: what we'll see? You know, the logistics? I think sometimes 42 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: are you know decided a little bit later? 43 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: But did you find out when everybody else find out? 44 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: Or was there a bat signal. 45 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: You know, I saw the reporting over the weekend that 46 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: it was likely, and I'd heard the rumor, but you know, 47 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: the first official confirmation I had is at the same 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: time that everybody else did. 49 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: So. He also mentioned that he wants to focus on 50 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: some tax policy as well, which leads me to the question, Okay, 51 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: if you're in a special session, you can introduce bills, 52 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: can't you. 53 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: You can, so there's no limitation on what bills can 54 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: be filed. Doesn't necessarily mean that those bills will be heard. 55 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: I know. Traditionally for special sessions you try to keep 56 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: them to a couple of topics, so you're in really quickly, 57 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: you get it done, and then you get out. We 58 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 3: also have a short session coming up, so unless it's 59 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: something that really needs to be done quickly before the 60 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: end of the physical you know, before the end of 61 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: the calendar year, for example, which I know there's some 62 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: language in the One Big Beautiful Bill where you know, frankly, again, 63 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: you might be able to do things retroactively if you 64 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: do it in the spring, but it'd be a lot 65 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: easier to get them done now. Makes a lot of 66 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 3: sense then to do that during special session. The rest 67 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: of it can probably wait until January. 68 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: Some people are saying, hey, my property tax bill can't wait. 69 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: Is that something that you would consider reintroducing during a 70 00:02:59,480 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: special set? 71 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: Well, hey, I don't think there's anybody in the entire 72 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: state House who's been more vocal on this issue than 73 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: I have. 74 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Right you were at the rally. 75 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: I was at the rally. I voted against SB one 76 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: as well because I had some concerns there. You know, 77 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, whether we do it now, 78 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: we do it next session, I think it is something 79 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: we have to continue to address because there's a lot 80 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: more work to do. I just paid my property tax 81 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: philby to day for the fall. That one's dung. It's 82 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: stung a lot. You know. Again, that is not a 83 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: system that we can continue to have long term. I 84 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: think we have to get out of the property tax 85 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: game entirely. So whether we're working that on, you know, 86 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: during a special session, or we're doing with it you 87 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: know this spring again, that is something I'm very committed 88 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: to working on. 89 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Do you have any inclination to introduce any other bills 90 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: during the special session or are you going solely to 91 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: focus on redistricting? 92 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: So I think that's the focus right now. Again, I've 93 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: got five bills that I'm working on for this short session. 94 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: You know, again, none of them that have to be 95 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: done by the end of this calendar year. So just 96 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: so that we could, you know, kind of save everybody's 97 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: time and you know, every day that we're in thereocus 98 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: on this and get it done. I think it's probably 99 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: a better way to do it. Okay. 100 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: So a lot of people are saying, you've seen the polls. 101 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: You've seen the polls that have come out in Indiana 102 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: saying that the majority of Hoosiers are opposing redistricting. And 103 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: last week we were told that the votes weren't there, 104 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: and now today we're being told Governor Brown is still 105 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: calling a special session. 106 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: Anyway, does that mean the votes are there? 107 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: So I couldn't tell you. I don't have a whip count. 108 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: I think that for the show, Adam Brin reported initially 109 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: that the you know, the votes in the House, and 110 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: again I'm a whipcount for that one, either were there 111 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: at the Senate was really the big question mark. I 112 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: seen some reporting over the weekend that maybe they're getting 113 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: closer to the magic you know, twenty five senators that 114 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: they need to get it done. So I guess is 115 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: we're probably pretty close to that right now. I couldn't 116 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 3: tell you for sure, but I can't imagine the governor 117 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: would call a special session unless he was pretty confident 118 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: that we're going to get this done. 119 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk about the why, because there are 120 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: some people that are saying, you know what, it's not 121 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: Indiana's responsibility to help well people in Washington and helped 122 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: Donald Trump before the midterms and to make things right 123 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: based on what's going on in Texas and California and Massachusetts. 124 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: So why are we doing this? Why are we considering 125 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: this at the expense of taxpayers? 126 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you I think that if we don't 127 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: do it, it comes at a real expense to taxpayers, and 128 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: one that's denying the overwhelming majority of Hoosier's their voice 129 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: at a national level. I mean, right now, Indiana, if 130 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: we don't do this and you send Andre Carson and 131 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: Frank Mrvan back to Congress next year, that means that 132 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: when states like Virginia go forward with redistricting, which they're 133 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: talking about, they're probably going to get done over the 134 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: next two weeks where they're going to deny multiple Republicans. 135 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: Sounds like upwards of three Republicans a seat in Congress, 136 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: California taking five away. And you've got states like Massachusetts, Illinois, Maryland, 137 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 3: others that have been denying Republicans for years, you know, 138 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: really an equal seat at the table. If Indiana doesn't 139 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: do this, we are just marginalizing our own voters. So 140 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: I think it's really important on that reason alone, is 141 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: again trying to level the national playing field. If you 142 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: don't fight fire with fire, you're just going to lose. 143 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned Massachusetts, and we've talked in the past 144 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: last week, especially how many people were trying to go 145 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: to redistrictr dot org and draw a map in Massachusetts 146 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: that had Republican representation and they could not do it. 147 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, and every election cycle is different. 148 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: But I will say I actually saw a data analyst 149 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: the other day who does a lot with maps, specifically, 150 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: who was able to draw and it's a funny looking 151 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: district to true of a lot of the states that 152 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: Jerry Mander, where you know, there was one Republican seat 153 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: and then there was one swing seat. I think it 154 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: was like a plus two's like a two you know, 155 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 3: point advantage for the Democrats. But in you know, a 156 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: good candidate or a good cycle for Republicans, it would 157 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: have been two Republican representatives for the state of Massachusetts. 158 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: So even in Massachusetts you can find two Republicans. Massachusetts 159 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: doesn't choose to do that, but you could do it. 160 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: If you work hard enough. We have Representative Andrew Ireland 161 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: joining us. I wanted to ask you about the maps specifically. 162 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: Have you seen a map? 163 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: You know, I've seen a million doing maps online. I 164 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: don't think we've received like an official map, you know, 165 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: for anybody. Yet. I think that's part of what the 166 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: special session is there to do those to go and 167 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: you know, meet is a committee, I think the Elections Committee, 168 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: whatever committee this goes to to draw it appropriate map, 169 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: and you know, I think there's a million ways you 170 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: can do that, just based on what I've seen online. 171 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: But I don't have an official map. 172 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: No. Now everything in this context here we're talking about 173 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: the federal districts and that's the conversation and that's why 174 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 4: we're having this special session. Has there been any discussion 175 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: about redrawing the state districts as long as you're talking 176 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: about redoing maps, So. 177 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, again, this is really 178 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: a federal issue. I think we have pretty fair maps 179 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: on a state level right now. We don't have any 180 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: need to you know, push back because again this is 181 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: really a federal issue. We're talking about the national elections, 182 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: and this is a reaction to what's happening in other states. Again, 183 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: there's not really any need on the state level to 184 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: address that. 185 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: Has there been any conversation about having a non partisan, 186 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: third party commission come in to draw the maps. 187 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: So I've seen people talk about that. I will say, 188 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: when you look at states like California that have had 189 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: it until they're to take that away now so they 190 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: can carrymander further. It's interesting is even those nonpartisan commissions 191 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: one are always filled with a bunch of very partisan hacks. 192 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: I mean some just outright Democrats sometimes that are you know, 193 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: staffing these places in Democrat states, and magically those maps 194 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: then happen to lean, you know, statistically far more Democrat 195 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: than what the average voting populace is. I mean, look 196 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: at California today, where the president got i think over 197 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: forty percent of the vote. Maybe it could be wrong 198 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: on that. I mean it's almost as you know, Republican, 199 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: as Indiana is Democrat, but the share there is far 200 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: worse than what we have here in our state today, 201 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 3: and that's with their nonpartisan redistricting commission. So you can 202 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: only imagine, then, again, what that would look like in Indiana. 203 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: I don't think it actually changes anything, and it takes 204 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: away that, you know, kind of, I think the authority 205 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: of the legislature, which is given to them by the 206 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: US Constitution to draw the maps. Like it's important. 207 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: It's interesting that you mentioned forty percent because Indiana technically 208 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: is forty percent Democrat, but now with this redistricting, you 209 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,359 Speaker 2: want to give them zero representation. 210 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: Well, and again, you know, if Massachusetts, Virginia, California want 211 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: to find two Republican seats that they want to give back, 212 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: I think we can have a different conversation on this. 213 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: But in the meantime, I think that's the only way 214 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 3: you can do it is you fight fire with fire. 215 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, do we want to really be implementing 216 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: things and saying, well, just because California did this or 217 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 4: Massachusetts did this, don't normally look to California as conservatives 218 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: for ideas to implement here in the state of Indiana. 219 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,479 Speaker 3: Well, you're right. I listen. I would love for California 220 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: to step back from the brink and to stop what 221 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: they're doing, right, but again, you cannot unilaterally disarm. Otherwise 222 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 3: you're just going to lose. We're just going to be 223 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: a minority party in Congress forever because we're going to say, Okay, Virginia, Maryland, Illinois, 224 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: New York, you all can do this, and we'll just 225 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: sit back and lose. Or again, you can start fighting 226 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: fire with fire and maybe they'll have second thoughts the 227 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: next time they try to do this. 228 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: What do you think the Voting Rights Act and what's 229 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: going on in Louisiana will play into this specifically here 230 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: in Marion County. 231 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: So I don't think it actually changes the legal analysis 232 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: here in Marion County. So the Voting Rights Act, I mean, 233 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: the main provision that you know is kind of being 234 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: litigated out right now involves majority minority districts, a majority 235 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: black district, majority of Hispanic district. And the VRA effectively 236 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: mandates that you have these districts in these states, particularly 237 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: the Southern states, where you know you kind of have 238 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: the history of segregation in the first place. No, obviously 239 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: that's being litigated out. It's going to be before the 240 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: you know, it's before the Supreme Court. They just had 241 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: arguments I think about a week ago or a couple 242 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: of weeks ago now, so we'll see when we get 243 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: a decision on that. That really doesn't change anything here 244 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: in Marion County because even you know, like the the 245 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: most ethnically diverse district in the state is still not 246 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: a majority minority district as far as majority black, majority Hispanic. 247 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: So however you draw districts in Indiana, that really isn't 248 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: a VR issue. Now again in Louisiana and Alabama and 249 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: these other states that is. So that'll be an interesting 250 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: thing to watch, is where the court lands on that. 251 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: And also how quickly you get a decision on that. 252 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you could not get a decision frankly until 253 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: like well into next summer. So by then it's unlikely 254 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: that you're going to see any map redrawing in state. 255 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: It's like Louisiana or Florida where it might matter, But 256 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: here in Indiana, I mean, this is a perfectly legal process. 257 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 3: There's nothing illegal about it. I think it's ultimately a 258 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: political question of whether or not, you know, Republicans in 259 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: Indiana are ready to take that leap. 260 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: Representative Andrew Ireland is joining us. 261 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: Are you concerned at all that we go through this 262 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: entire process and then you don't end up with a 263 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: nine to zero. 264 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you have to run good candidates and 265 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: you have to win at the end of the days. 266 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: So I mean one of the things that when you 267 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: go to nine and zero, for example, if you do 268 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: a nine and zero map, is that means that you're 269 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: going to have more competitive seats. And personally, I actually 270 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: think competition is good. So I don't like when you 271 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: have a district that's plus thirty three, you know, one 272 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: way or another, that's not healthy. That means the primary 273 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: is the general. And frankly, I think we've seen that, 274 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: you know, with enough money, a lot of these candidates, 275 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: even if they're bad candidates, like Andre Carson, they're never 276 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: going to be challenged on their own side. So that 277 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: guy is basically been a king in his own seat 278 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: for a long time here. So you know, I don't 279 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: have worry in there because I'm confident that we're going 280 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: to find quality candidates that are going to run, that 281 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: they're going to go and put up a good fight 282 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: and that we're going to win them all. 283 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: But isn't that more of a problem of the Mary 284 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: County GOP. 285 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 3: Though it's certainly part of it. I listen, I don't 286 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: think I've been quite a bit of my frustrations with 287 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: Mary County GOP that we need to do more. I mean, 288 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: this is a county that is home to nearly a 289 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: million people, and it seems like for too often now 290 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 3: we've kind of let it go and we just said, oh, well, 291 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 3: you know, that's where the Democrats are, so we're not 292 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: going to worry about the prosecutor, We're not going to 293 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: worry about the mayor. And now we see the consequences 294 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 3: of it. So yeah, I mean that is certainly a 295 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: piece of it. Is we need the Married County GOP 296 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: to step up. 297 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: Have you heard from any of your colleagues. Are people 298 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: hearing from their constituents either for or against this? 299 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: You know? I certainly am. I received a certainly one 300 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: hundreds of phone calls over the last couple of months, 301 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: many many emails, a lot of them from the outside. 302 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: Frankly on both sides. You got a lot of these, 303 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: you know, you know, heavily funded ads for example, I 304 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: think it's the League of Conservation Voters has been running 305 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: almost one hundred thousand dollars in ads, which I don't 306 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: know what that has to do with conservation, shouldn't, but 307 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 3: for some reason they're running it about, you know, a 308 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 3: partisan jerrymandering. That's there their big concern right now. And frankly, listen, 309 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: I read every email, We listen to every voicemail. If 310 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 3: you're outside of the district, I appreciate your opinion, it's 311 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: still a welcome thing, but doesn't really sway me one 312 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 3: way or another. 313 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, if it's not one of somebody 314 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: in your voting district, they're not calling their right representation. 315 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: But when it comes to people who are in your area, 316 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: how much are you paying attention to those calls, either 317 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: for or against? Like, are you keeping tabs or a 318 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: tally of you know, hash marks one for one of. 319 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, one against. 320 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean, I'll say, in my district it's 321 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: actually been very supportive. I don't have an exact tally 322 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: for you. I think part of it is that, you know, 323 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 3: up until a couple of years ago, the people on 324 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: the South Side were in part of Andre Carson's district 325 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 3: and they know how terrible of a congressman he has 326 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: been and how ineffective he has been, so frankly, you know, 327 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: by whatever means necessary, they are more than happy to 328 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: give that guy the boot. And you know, at the 329 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: end of the day, I've been pretty vocal about this 330 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: from the beginning. You know, nobody had to wring my 331 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: arm to do it. I'm very supportive of this because 332 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: I think it's really important to start leveling the national 333 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: playing field. And it's nice to have, you know, somebody 334 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: at the top of your party, the President of the 335 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: United States right now, who's ready to play by the Democrats' 336 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: rules to fight back in the way that they have 337 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: been for years. 338 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: Representative Andrew Ireland is joining us. Do you have time 339 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: to stick around for just a few more minutes? Okay, 340 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: We've got to take a break, and when we come back, 341 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: a few more questions and also a little fun. 342 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good? 343 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: All right. It is the Kendall and Casey Show. It's 344 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC. It is the Kendelling Casey Show on 345 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: ninety three w IBC. My name is Casey Daniels, Rob 346 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Kendall with the day off. 347 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: Jim is in and also joining us in the studio, 348 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: we have Indiana Representative Andrew Ireland, and I want to 349 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: talk about the federal Republicans because you know what, I'm 350 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: just going to let you read what my normal co 351 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: host Rob Kendall has sent you the message that he 352 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: asked you. 353 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know Rob's out on the golf course today, 354 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: but it looks like he's still got the time between 355 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: holes too since the messages here. So Rob asked us, 356 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: So when adding two more Jefferson Shrieves to Congress doesn't 357 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: make anyone's life any better? Who will you pick as 358 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: the next boogeyman? Listen? You know, I get the sentiment there. 359 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: I've got all sorts of frustrations with what's going on 360 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: in Congress generally, particularly with congressional Republicans, where it seems 361 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: like every cycle we get Republicans that go and say, 362 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: we're going to fight for you, and we're going to 363 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: cut taxes and the fiscal piece is the most important. 364 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: We've got this national debt that you know is hanging 365 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: over our heads, and then every year it's like we're 366 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: back at the same place, if not worse, where we 367 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: spend more money, we tax people more and things don't 368 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: get better. I got to tell you, I don't know 369 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: if the other side offers you more on that. Frankly, 370 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: you've got two parties out there. Both of them want 371 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: to tax the Jesus out of you, I think is 372 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: Rob says, I totally agree with that. But on the 373 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: other side, in addition to all doing all that, all 374 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: those same things, they also want to go and have 375 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: abortion on demand. They want to go and have gender 376 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: reassignment surgeries for children, these kind of things that are 377 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: just absolutely radical, crazy things where if I've got to 378 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: choose between the squishiest Republican, which if I had to 379 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: choose it, and this is my only choice, or Andre 380 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: Carson on the other side, a guy who couldn't even 381 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: vote in favor of the resolution honoring Charlie Kirk, that 382 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: choice is still pretty easy for me. I don't like it, 383 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: but you know, again, between the two, that's a pretty 384 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: easy choice. 385 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: So you're talking mainly social issues, but we added a 386 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: trillion dollars to the national debt in two months, and 387 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: that's with Republicans in control of the White House, the Senate, 388 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: and the House. So I guess the question is you're 389 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: not letting representation for forty percent of the state of 390 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: Indiana take place, and you're basing it on social issues, 391 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: then yeah. 392 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: I mean, look, look what's going on right now with 393 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: the shutdown. Right, so, you've got Republicans who in the 394 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: House have already done this. In the Senate, they keep 395 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: trying to do it. They've passed a continuing resolution where 396 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: they want to spend the amount of money that we 397 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 3: already are and you've got Democrats who say, no, no, no, 398 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: that's actually not enough. We want to spend more money, 399 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: and in fact, we want to spend that money specifically 400 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: on illegal aliens and expanding Obamacare. I mean, these kind 401 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: of things that it's really frustrating to see because I'd 402 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: really like to see some party step up and say, actually, 403 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: maybe we need to spend less money this year. Yeah, 404 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: maybe this dead is a problem. Can we do this 405 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: and stop mortgaging people's futures? Right, that's a real problem. 406 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: Where's the special session where we stop spending all this money? 407 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I hear you. 408 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: All right, it is a representative Andrew Ireland with us, 409 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: and I appreciate you coming in, by the way, thank 410 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: you very much. I don't know if these were hard 411 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: hitting questions that everybody wanted, but hopefully they were some answers. 412 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: And you spent yesterday in Costco with your baby, how'd 413 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: it go? 414 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: You know, it was a harrowing experience. We braved one 415 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: of the most dangerous places on Earth, a Costco on 416 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 3: a Sunday afternoon after church. But you know we survived. 417 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 3: I'm still here. We succeeded. And the ultimate mission there, 418 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: which is to get the Costco meat loaf. If you've 419 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 3: ever heard, if you've not had the Costco meat loaf 420 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 3: like the homemade you know, meat loaf of the mashed 421 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: potatoes on the side, strongly recommend you try it. Honestly, 422 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: it's one of their best items. I'm a real say. 423 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 4: This is where I get upset at because I love 424 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: Costco and there all the time, but I've never had 425 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 4: the Costco meat loaf because i happened to live with 426 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 4: somebody that does not like meat loaf. 427 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: That's true, you knew. 428 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: You can find the picture of Andrew's purchases at Andrew Ireland. 429 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: I n and the reason I wanted to bring up 430 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: Costco is again, I go back to you were just 431 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: at the grocery store and we're being told by the 432 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: President the grocery prices are coming down and gas prices 433 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: are coming down. 434 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: But here in Indiana, the gas prices are not coming down. 435 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: And I don't know what your grocery bill was, but 436 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: it was probably a little higher than it used to be. 437 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: So your voters want you to focus on that rather 438 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: than the redistricting, What say you? 439 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: So, I think we can walk and chew gum at 440 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: the same time, right, So, I think you can redistrict 441 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: but also really focus on the issues that matter to 442 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: the people. I mean, that's that's what I've been doing 443 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: from the moment that I got there, is really focused 444 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: on that. I had my own property tax plan. Obviously 445 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 3: we didn't move forward with it. I've got a bill 446 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: I'm working on right now, and whether it's for this 447 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: session or you know, the next one is associated with 448 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: the gas tax. The guy you talked about it a 449 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: little bit, maybe the last time that gym was here. 450 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: But you know, we have remittances, so this is money 451 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: that is transferred out of the country that worker is 452 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: often illegal aliens. I think we should be taxing that 453 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: instead of hardworking hoosiers and use that money to pay 454 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: down you know, the gas tax is a credit for 455 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: hardworking Hoosiers, so you're not paying these ridiculous gas taxes. 456 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 3: So hey, you got an ally there on all of that. 457 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: I think that there's something to be said that Republicans 458 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: need to do more at the state and federal level 459 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: to really go and do what they campaign on for 460 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 3: the beginning, which is trying to make life easier for people, 461 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: not to tax us, you know, out of existence. 462 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's what they're there for, right 463 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: It's the voters picking representation, not representation picking their voters. Andrew, 464 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming in and sticking around for a half. 465 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: Hour with us. 466 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it good to be back. 467 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: It is the Kendallly Casey Show. It's ninety three WIBC.