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Speaker 1: and it's certainly a movie in the eyes of Mark Dyton,

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Speaker 1: and in the movie in his eyes, it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: sick ending. But as much as I heard the cheering

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Speaker 2: I heard the howling from the old man out there

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Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, Maddie Bones like, what was that?

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Speaker 1: I was like, I swear it was Mark. It was

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers' final pass of his career, question Mark in

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Speaker 1: a pick six in one of the wilder fourth quarters. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: night it was seven to six, and then Mark Dyton said,

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Speaker 3: That was truly remarkable, Like you blinked, and like, what

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Speaker 3: the hell happened here?

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Speaker 2: I know what happened. Mark had the voodoo doll out.

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Speaker 2: He was poking you know who all over the place.

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Speaker 1: God bless you will Laterson Junior. God bless you, Sheldon Rankings,

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Speaker 3: It was just a icy hot in the Pittsburgh area

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Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers, he tried hard for that, not to

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Speaker 2: get pick six. Did you see him make the tackle?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, boy, he knows, he knows.

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Speaker 1: That man took some hits all night long, especially in

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Speaker 1: even the finals? A thirty to seven, thirty to.

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Speaker 2: Six, excuse me, thirty to six, and they didn't score

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable as the defense that I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: I just go back to that game they had against

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Speaker 2: and I was thinking to myself, WHOA, that's a for

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Speaker 2: real defense. So ever since then, I really believed in it.

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Speaker 2: And of course I've covered two games against that team

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Speaker 2: future Hall of Fame quarterback in Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: us coming up at eight o'clock. That is now three

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Speaker 1: in a row for the Indiana Pacers the first time

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Speaker 1: all year. And James Boyd, you gotta go back aways.

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Speaker 1: You might have been on the beat. Frankly, were you

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Speaker 1: I did think it slipped initially because he had this.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Joe Missoula's post game.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, Mark, I loved audio.

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to like me. I'm Ben Johnson here, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get to all of that. Joe Missoula last night

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want me to play it now? Do

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Speaker 1: Sure? Why not. This is Joe Miszoula post game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me set it up a little bit. Seven fouls

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Speaker 1: This is Joe Mizula postgame. Joe, give yourself a chance

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Speaker 6: A legal screen, what you say, a legal screen?

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Speaker 6: A legal screen?

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Speaker 5: What Philip hard to get you guys behind?

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Speaker 6: And then how are you get a legal screen?

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Speaker 2: What do you do by?

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Speaker 4: Where do you want people to.

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Speaker 6: A legal screen? Like a legal screen?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean by that, How great is that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've been in one of those

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Speaker 1: Carlisle has some he was so mad that night. He

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Speaker 2: You don't play anything in the NBA, right, you could

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Jay Huff. Very nice night for him,

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Speaker 2: Does he ever dunk normally?

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Speaker 1: And then why doesn't he talk about that? Did you

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Speaker 1: It's deservedly so gonna get ample eye you attention. But

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a big one tonight for Indiana up

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Speaker 1: in East Lancing. I think Robbie Hoummel again is on

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Speaker 2: I feel the same way about Kirk Kurbstreet. Then you

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Speaker 1: A great and like Kirk's dogs might be cloned too. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're everywhere, like what do we have Marcus? This Purdue Iowa?

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing here big ten network Wednesday, Like it would

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Speaker 3: I don't understand the travel schedule. It's just like you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but boy, I guess he's living the life in

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Speaker 3: It was a nice way to in the wild card weekend.

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Speaker 3: Mark matter reverse science.

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Speaker 1: That is three and row for the first time all

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Speaker 1: season for the Pacers, as Pascal siakam with that bank

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Speaker 1: in there. One thing I was really impressed by Andrew

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Speaker 1: Nemhard didn't score or didn't hit a shot until midway

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Speaker 1: through the third. A little bit of a flurry there,

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Speaker 1: and I think now Jarris Walker strung a couple together,

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Speaker 1: so you know, we're kind of waiting for Benedict Matheren

443
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Speaker 1: to get back in the lineup. You know, Rick said

444
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Speaker 1: to us last Tuesday, be at least a week So

445
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Speaker 1: here we are a week out, but that trade deadline

446
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Speaker 1: inching closer, and I think, no matter how you slice it,

447
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Speaker 1: since January one, even in some of the losses, I

448
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Speaker 1: do think the Pacers have played a little bit better here.

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Speaker 1: So Rick gonna join us coming up at eight. One

450
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Speaker 1: storyline for Monday Night. I don't know how much play

451
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Speaker 1: it'll get James. One thing we've talked a lot about it.

452
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Speaker 1: It's probably something I've harped maybe too much on, but

453
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Speaker 1: it's been the staff continuity for kurtz Signetti. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Brian Haynes is starting to become a little

455
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Speaker 1: bit more of a you know, front facing name voice.

456
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Speaker 1: ESPN singled him out a lot, I thought on the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: He tweets on Friday night. He tweets, and he's very

458
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Speaker 1: candid frankly over on Twitter. But he actually was not

459
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Speaker 1: the initial defensive coordinator at James Madison with Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 1: The initial defensive coordinator there was Corey Heatherman. For those

461
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Speaker 1: that have watched Miami this season. That is the Hurricane

462
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, got a great looking beard, Corey Heatherman, and

463
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Speaker 1: that Miami defense. It's well documented the level of play

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Speaker 1: that they have been at this season. So the first

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Speaker 1: three years at JMU, Heatherman was there under Kurt Signetti,

466
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Speaker 1: great defenses at James Madison. He left there to go

467
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Speaker 1: to I think it was a position coach at Rutgers

468
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Speaker 1: before becoming the defensive coordinator at Minnesota. He's only this

469
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Speaker 1: is only his first year at Miami, and then Bryant

470
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Speaker 1: Haynes took over for him at James Madison. So again,

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Speaker 1: I guess you can look at it one of two ways,

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Speaker 1: and Kurt Signetti definitely spoke to both of this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Of certainly, Corey knows a little bit of what we

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Speaker 1: want to do offensively, but we also know a little

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Speaker 1: bit of what he wants to do defensively. And of

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Speaker 1: course we're talking what I think it was twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and twenty twenty one, So I think both

478
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Speaker 1: coaching staffs have evolved, But I don't know, you know,

479
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Speaker 1: probably not a huge, huge storyline, but not Miami defense

480
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Speaker 1: man and that D line specifically, they have wrecked some games,

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Speaker 1: and you know if they are able to for any

482
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Speaker 1: sort of Miami recipe, Ruben Bain has got to make

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Speaker 1: his impact on this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he scares me. That dude can play, and he'll

485
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Speaker 2: play on Sundays for sure. Offensively, Malachai Tony game breaking

486
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Speaker 2: type of player, game breaking type of speed. It blows

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Speaker 2: my Mind's supposed to be a senior in high school.

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine him in a high school setting?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Boy?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm like, how many touchdowns is he going to

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Speaker 2: score a game?

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Speaker 1: Eight? Yeah? He was seventeen years I think he was

494
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Speaker 1: seventeen in the opener when they played Notre Dame and

495
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Speaker 1: I was just laughing watching Notre Dame try and tackle him.

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Speaker 2: And it's so impressive because the one and dones in basketball,

497
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Speaker 2: but just the physicality of football, you usually can't do

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Speaker 2: it right.

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Speaker 1: Like Cooper Flag right, wasn't he an early en or

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Speaker 1: have everyone to look at it exactly?

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Speaker 2: Even Jeremiah Smith from Ohio State was pretty young. I

502
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Speaker 2: want to say he was seventeen when he started his

503
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Speaker 2: college career, but he doesn't look say he's like physically

504
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Speaker 2: so big. But Malachy Tony's He's not that big from

505
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Speaker 2: a body competition standpoint, but he is big time when

506
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Speaker 2: it comes to game days, So he's somebody else that

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Speaker 2: carries me. But even then, Kevin, when I look at

508
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Speaker 2: the matchup, I feel like Miami has to play darn

509
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Speaker 2: near perfect to beat Indiana, and it still might not

510
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Speaker 2: be enough because I believe Indiana is just that much

511
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Speaker 2: more talented overall and also that much more disciplined overall.

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Speaker 2: If you remember that Oh Miss game, there were a

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Speaker 2: couple of late penalties, and I'm not talking about like

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Speaker 2: like a play penalties. It was like ball type of

515
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Speaker 2: stuff where you're like, man, what are you doing? If

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Speaker 2: that doesn't happen with IU.

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Speaker 1: If Miami has the same discipline they had in the

518
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Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl, Indiana's winning by three scores exactly. And one

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Speaker 1: thing to note, they had a targeting one of their

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Speaker 1: starting safeties targeting there in the second half, so he

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Speaker 1: is out for the first half. So if you are

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan for Nana Mendoza Charlie Becker on a little

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Speaker 1: go ball, I would assume you try to test them

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Speaker 1: vertically on multiple occasions in the first half with you know,

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Speaker 1: backup safety in the game. I saw the stat going

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Speaker 1: around a little bit yesterday. This is probably the third

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Speaker 1: year of kind of the big nil era that we've

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Speaker 1: had here in college football. And someone threw this out.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the twelve semi final teams that

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Speaker 1: we have had here, and you look at the twelve

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on those semi final teams, eleven of the twelve

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Speaker 1: are out of the transfer portal? Wow, are we done

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Speaker 1: with the homegrown quarterback?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: Is it over?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 1: The five star, four star QB sitting waiting developing? Is

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Speaker 1: that over?

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Speaker 5: It?

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Speaker 2: Probably is in my opinion with respect to just how

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Speaker 2: quick and easy it can be, the plug and play.

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Speaker 2: And I probably shouldn't say easy, because there are some

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Speaker 2: difficulties to it getting a guy in into your system

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Speaker 2: and trying to get them acclimated for perhaps there's only

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Speaker 2: one season like Fanana Mendoza is having with Indiana. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, you see the same thing in college basketball.

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Speaker 2: If I can get a guy who's already done it

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Speaker 2: at this level and he's stronger, smarter, more disciplined, knows

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Speaker 2: what I'm expecting from him from a character standpoint right

550
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Speaker 2: off the bat, and he's twenty two versus being seventeen eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I understand it.

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Speaker 1: So the new method for quarterback is you find team

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Speaker 1: ranked twenty to forty yep in college football, you let

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Speaker 1: them develop the guy, and then you pluck.

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Speaker 2: The risk you're Richard, I mean, unless you're like Bryce

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Speaker 2: Underwood at Michigan where you're at this phenom. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: you come.

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Speaker 1: Out got a little bit of that another dame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're just the guy. But yeah, that's the

560
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Speaker 2: reality of it. And I want to say it might

561
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Speaker 2: have been the Utah coach. He talked about how he

562
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Speaker 2: very well recognizes that we're going to be a Tweiner

563
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Speaker 2: program where we're going to get the guy, develop the guy,

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Speaker 2: and they're going to have aspirations of going to be

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Speaker 2: for a national championship or somewhere bigger than us, and

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Speaker 2: that becomes our selling point. Come to us, We'll develop you,

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Speaker 2: will get you better, and then you can move on

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Speaker 2: to the ius in Miami's of the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So last year, you know, of course in the

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Speaker 1: semi final round you had Will Howard and Riley Leonard

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Speaker 1: in the national title game. What was that Kansas State

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Speaker 1: and Duke I believe their respective transfers there. Quinn Ewers initially,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of the high school drama with him

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Speaker 1: and the nil at Ohio State. Drew Aller is the

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Speaker 1: lone one. Obviously, this year you will have what the

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Speaker 1: cal quarterback you're Georgia Miami for Carson Back a little

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Speaker 1: bit different on that end, Dante Moore initially what UCLA

578
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Speaker 1: I believe for him, and then of course trend Dad Chambliss.

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Speaker 1: That story pretty well documented from Farris State. Rick Carlisle

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Speaker 1: coming up at eight o'clock again, we'll get the Miami

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Speaker 1: side of it with Taylor Tannembaum at eight thirty. I

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Speaker 1: guess I'll leave it pretty open ended for you, James. Anything.

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Speaker 1: If I had to say, you like the thing that

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Speaker 1: jumped out to you the most by what Chris Ballard

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Speaker 1: had to say last Thursday, you would say was what.

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Speaker 2: Did Juju and Shimmer comment? The owner had to ask you,

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Speaker 2: Are you still confident enough of yourself to do the job?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 2: That is pretty sad. I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 2: That was never going to go over well. Granted, nothing

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Speaker 2: he said was going to go over well with the

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Speaker 2: fan base, but that part of it. Are you still confident?

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Speaker 1: When he said Juju I thought he might BRNS was

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Speaker 1: coming back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know where he was going with that.

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Speaker 3: I thought Juju Smith Schuster was an option.

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Speaker 1: Well, what the hell well that desire Franklin?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, imagine those guys being locker neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Only those two I I. I thought the juju and

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Speaker 1: shimmer comment was one of the more ridiculous things I've

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Speaker 1: heard in a cold Spress conference.

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Speaker 2: So I was waiting for Mark's point. I was waiting

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Speaker 2: for the disco ball to drop out of the ceiling.

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Speaker 1: I am, yeah, I guess Mark, do we have that audio?

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Speaker 1: This was carl Er said, Gordon's top question? Is that right?

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Speaker 2: That's how I was phrased it.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: He said they met before the Houston game several times,

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Speaker 2: and he said they had a couple of hours long meetings.

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Speaker 1: And the top question from Carli Er, say Gordon to

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard was this.

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Speaker 9: The number one question? She asked me, Do you still

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Speaker 9: have your juju or shimmer to do this?

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Speaker 4: Is it fair question?

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Speaker 1: Do you still have your juju or shimmer to do this?

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Speaker 1: It took me a while to kind of process that,

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Speaker 1: but I was stunned that. I guess in Carly's eyes,

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Speaker 1: the most important question to ask a GM with a

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Speaker 1: failing resume now nine years into it, is do you

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Speaker 1: still have and can you maybe synonym dot com TheSource

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Speaker 1: dot com that Mark dyked in for juju and shimmer,

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Speaker 1: get some other similar words here for that. But I

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Speaker 1: believe Chris reference, you know again, confidence, belief, et cetera,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, still sparkle. Well is that what the dot

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Speaker 1: com says?

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Speaker 3: That's what Mark Dyton says.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know if you write clicked on Microsoft

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Speaker 1: word and you went to the synonym thing and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you found some other words. Now juju

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Speaker 1: was a bad thing that matched that well? Bad juju

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Speaker 1: certainly is James. I I just I could not believe

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Speaker 1: that was it it, And I guess I left thinking

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. One I always thought Thesay family

634
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Speaker 1: held Chris Bout in high regard. They hold him in

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Speaker 1: much higher regard than I even thought. That's where I'll

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Speaker 1: go first, because to me, that is a question that

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00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: maybe the Rooney family asks to Mike Tomlin today. Hey man,

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Speaker 1: you've been here for what two decades?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Do you still have it? Do you still and Tomlin's

641
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: little unfair because he's still young. That's a question that

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Speaker 1: if I am the North Carolina athletic director five years ago,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking Roy Williams. Right, if I'm the Duke a

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Speaker 1: D five years ago, I'm asking coach k if I'm

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Speaker 1: the Kansas ad X amount you know, Jay Wright, Villanove,

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Speaker 1: you know these in an age of college athletics that

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Speaker 1: has changed greatly. I'm saying to accomplish people. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the key word. Accomplish people. Do you still feel

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Speaker 1: like you can get it done? To me, that's not

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Speaker 1: a question you ask people that haven't accomplished anything.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 1: It was really a question that I just walked away

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Speaker 1: from the press conference being like, wait, that's the first

654
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Speaker 1: evaluation mark on Chris Ballard is do you still have

655
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: confidence in yourself?

656
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? I didn't.

657
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Five days later, I'm still at a loss.

658
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: I didn't feel good about that at all, and I

659
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 2: don't see how that can instill some confidence into this

660
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: fan base quite frankly. Now, granted again, they probably weren't

661
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: gonna be confident either way. What's the general manager being

662
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: retained with that resume? Considering you haven't won the Division

663
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: one playoff win two playoffpearances. We know the resume, but yeah,

664
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: that was weird man and then having to sit up

665
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: there and try to explain why that's meaningful for him. Yes,

666
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm still confident. Well, of course you should say that,

667
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: and you probably should still be if you are going

668
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: to be the GM. I don't want any unconfident person

669
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: running my team.

670
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: Like if I were Chris Ballad and I heard that

671
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: question being asked to me, I would think to myself,

672
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: Holy bleep, I'm keeping my job. This is incredible. All

673
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: you have to do is say that I'm so confident.

674
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: Job for life. Some synonyms by the way, for shimmer, shine, sparkle, glitter, gleam,

675
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: and flicker, and then juju. Like James said, it's kind

676
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: of bad. It's like voodoo fetish, all that stuff. That's

677
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: a rabbit hole. I don't want to go in.

678
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: It's Tuesday morning.

679
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: I'll leave that on the cutting room floor there. Now

680
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm picture Mark Dyton and glitter when he watches the

681
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: Bears coming up on sea.

682
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: Here's another synonym I've seeing for juju mojo, fuck you

683
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: know mojo, Maybe swaggers, maybe another one charm is on here.

684
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand the question at all and why

685
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: that is the top question you know? To me, it's

686
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: more of a okay, why if we continue to fall

687
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: in short? Why are these late season collapses happening under

688
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: your watch? No matter who the coaching staff is. Why

689
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: do you feel like you need to all of a

690
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: sudden turn the leaf on a defense that you've invested

691
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: richly in over the years, and now in year eight

692
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: you've decided, Hey, that scheme, that system I believed in

693
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: for so long. Yeah, we need to change it. Let's

694
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: get Louis and Arumo in here. Okay. Then the very

695
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: next offseason, Hey, yep, that personnel, the guys we've signed

696
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: a second and third contracts. Yep, it's aging. It's slow.

697
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: We need to get younger and faster. I need to

698
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: clean up my own mess one more time on that

699
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: clip mark.

700
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 9: The number one question she asked me, do you still

701
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 9: have your juju or shimmer to do this?

702
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

703
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the top question like a

704
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: job interview. This is I want both of you to

705
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: go home to your wives and ask them do you

706
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: still have your juju or shimmer to do this? And

707
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: see how that goes?

708
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's gonna end very well.

709
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: I would want the answer for my question, do I

710
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: still have it? Do I do it for you?

711
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

712
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: Please don't answer, I say, don't answer, it's crazy.

713
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: We might have some commercials on these airways that could

714
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: help you out in that area. Mark, honestly, anything you know,

715
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: tangible defense, younger pastor from an improvement standpoint focused there

716
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: he mentioned the run game. We need to run it

717
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: better when we want to run it. Yeah, there's no

718
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: bigger one AD in the season statistically. Then you look

719
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: at the rushing particularly Jonathan Taylor in the first half

720
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: of the year in the second half of the year.

721
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: So anything from a roster improvement for the year of

722
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, Well, I.

723
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: Don't know about improvement, perhaps change difference, but I thought

724
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: that he was more open to the idea of moving

725
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: from moving on from Anthony Richardson than before ever before.

726
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: We know that in the past Chris Ballad has been

727
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: a staunch Anthony Richardson senior supporter believer, no matter what

728
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: he said before the season that they would not trade him.

729
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: Now I'm kicking myself thinking about it right now. I

730
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: should have followed up in that press conference and had

731
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 2: a chance to ask him, will you trade him now?

732
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: Is that a possibility, because it sounded like they were

733
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: definitely open to it. Because the reason I think that

734
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: Kevin was when he talked about Riley and he said

735
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: something along the lines of, well, we believe something might

736
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: be there to the point where if Anthony isn't where

737
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: he needs to be, then perhaps Riley is the number two.

738
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: He said those words out loud, and I was like, Wow, okay,

739
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 2: you think that, Holly of Riley, and you're still kind

740
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: of ify on Anthony, both from I think a health

741
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: standpoint when it comes to the eye recovery, and also

742
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 2: a roster standpoint. They do have to make a decision

743
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: on his fifth year option. I would imagine they do

744
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: not pick that up for the season, which means he's

745
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: going to the final year of his contract. So if

746
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: that is the case, perhaps we've seen the last of

747
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson and they're going into next season thinking we'll

748
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: have Daniel Jones, Roley Leonard if Daniel can't go at

749
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: the first game of the season, and we'll just sign

750
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 2: some other quarterback who probably has no chance of playing.

751
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the Richardson front, I don't know if we've

752
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: discussed this part of it very often, James, but I

753
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: do think we've reached kind of this point in his career.

754
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: And this is part for the course for any first

755
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: round pick, particularly one taken in the top five. You know,

756
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: if you look at the Colts to offseason right now,

757
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: they will operate without a first round pick. And currently

758
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: they're north of fifty million in cap space, which is

759
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: obviously a big number. But if you're going to say, hey,

760
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: a huge chunk of that is going to Alec Pierson,

761
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, potentially all of it. Now, when you have

762
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: a focus of trying to improve the defense, getting younger

763
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: and faster, is it just draft picks you can throw

764
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: at that focus. So I bring all that up to

765
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: say this about Richardson. You mentioned no fifth year option,

766
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: and yes I agree with you on that. Again, just

767
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: to refresh everybody. They have to make that decision next.

768
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: I think it's by like May. That is for the

769
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven season. He is still under contract Richardson

770
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six, James, that cap hit is ten

771
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: point eight million dollars. I don't give I know it's

772
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback, but I don't think you can afford to

773
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: have a ten point eight million dollar quarterback. You've already

774
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: benched on multiple occasions and have shown no real trust

775
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: in So you're saying, hey, we got to move on

776
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: for cap purposes. Also, which again, the cap element I've

777
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: never really used as a reason to get rid.

778
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: Of richards I han't thought about it, honestly.

779
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: But if you are trying to improve your roster, and

780
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean, Mark, look up Riley Leonard's contract. I mean,

781
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're comparing Richardson and Leonard, but I

782
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: guess we have to live in a little bit of

783
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: reality here. I'm gonna guess Richardson is not even at

784
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: a million dollars from or Leonard is not even out

785
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: a million dollars for next year. So you're talking about

786
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: a ten million dollar difference between those two individuals, and

787
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,479
Speaker 1: you're trying to improve your roster without a first round pick.

788
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: Then, to me, well, you can't just tell the Jets, hey,

789
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: wait a second here, Can we work something out where

790
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 2: I get one of those back?

791
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't think that's how it's gonna work.

792
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: He'll make just a little over a million next year

793
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: with bonus peration.

794
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: I hope I can say that, what's my life hit?

795
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: I don't see that in front of me. But he

796
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: made eight hundred and forty thousand base salary this year

797
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 3: with a bonus, so that pushed it a little over

798
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: a million. And then they'll make it a little over

799
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: a million in twenty twenty six, then one point one

800
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 3: two in twenty twenty seven, one point two to three

801
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty eight.

802
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: So you're talking about Richardson making ten times or having

803
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: the cap hit ten times the amount of Leonard you know,

804
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: if you want to look at it from that standpoint.

805
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: The marked point, his cap hit is just over a million,

806
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: a million, sixty three thousand.

807
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, so again ten times in change. Obviously that

808
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: is a substantial amount. And now the question becomes, so

809
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: what team out there will say, hey, we'll take on

810
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: ten point eight million of the cap hit and we'll

811
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: do it for a fourth or fifth round pick.

812
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: My only thing with this is how confident would a

813
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: team be in trading for him when they don't know

814
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: what's going on with his eye? Could that complicate things?

815
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 8: No?

816
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: That is, yeah, that is definitely because.

817
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: I mean, as great as he might look, on paper

818
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: in theory, Yeah, passing the physical is going to be

819
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: I need you, yeah, I need you to be able

820
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: to see. Man, that's one of those ones where you

821
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: know you have the trade go down and all of

822
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: us do the whole source says this has been agreed upon.

823
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: That's a trade you would want to see be officially

824
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: approved before you start making reactions, because again, they have

825
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: to give him the physical and at that point, I

826
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: think that giving is eye exam And I'm not kidding.

827
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 2: I wouldn't you have to do something to figure out

828
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: how well he can see or can't see.

829
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: Who starts more games in their NFL career or the

830
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: rest of the way. Anthony richards enter Aaron Rodgers'.

831
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Just gonna say, Riley for a second, I'm going to

832
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: go with Anthony Richardson because I think this is the

833
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: end for Aaron Rodgers.

834
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: Mark, I mean, long gem, I'll say Anthony Richardson just

835
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: because boy Rogers is at the tail end. So if

836
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson can't get on the field more than Aaron

837
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: Rodgerson than twenty twenty six and beyond too, boy, yea,

838
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 3: that's rough.

839
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: Be honest, Mark, or are you rooting for a Rogers

840
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: injury last night.

841
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 3: No, but I was very happy with the pick six.

842
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: I'm happy he got brutalized.

843
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: Should we lie detector him?

844
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 6: You can?

845
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: I think you can. I feel like a true hater

846
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: doesn't want your opponent to get injured. You want them

847
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: to get embarrassed. I want him.

848
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: I want him to consider retirement and be like, wow,

849
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: I got my ass kicked last night. I don't know

850
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: if I can do this any mormal seeing Will Anderson

851
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: in my nightmares. So no, if he wants to do

852
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 3: it one more time, that's fine. I want him to

853
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: get absolutely pummeled.

854
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: Though.

855
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans and c J. Stroud the same cycle as

856
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Shane Syke and Anthony Richardson. That is their third playoff

857
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: win in obviously two division titles. There their first playoff

858
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: win in franchise history Houston, New England. That will be boy,

859
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know about that coming up on Sunday.

860
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: Again. This is why I love NFL head on that

861
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: New England.

862
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: Either way you.

863
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: Can talk me into either person. I will say this,

864
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans will lose if c J. Strou plays

865
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: like he did last night.

866
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: Well, his balls, the ball security was horrific.

867
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: Look what are you doing?

868
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: He did have a few big time throws.

869
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 2: Though he did, but that's what I'm saying.

870
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: There was one right after the muff fumble or the

871
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: errant snap where then he found Kirk down the sideline there,

872
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: what a pickup. I'll tell you what again, I said

873
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: it earlier. I forgot Christian Kirk was in the NFL.

874
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: The that was the last night.

875
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: The other guy that I forgot was playing in the

876
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: league this weekend was Brandon Cooks.

877
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: Yes, he made every big catch in that game. They

878
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 2: were talking about he still astreadoose tires. I'm like, boy

879
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: does he? He's still a burner.

880
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 6: Gosh.

881
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean, these are a couple of whiteouts. I'm like,

882
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, Christian Kurt turning back the clock here, he.

883
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: Finished with I believe one hundred and forty four yards

884
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: last night, franchise record in the playoffs for Houston. And

885
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: that was after Nico Collins went down. So you're getting

886
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: more of the attention from the defense and you're still

887
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: going out there putting up some big time numbers, and

888
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: so a lot of factors to consider for that matchup.

889
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: But I will say the Nico Collins absence, most likely

890
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: due to him getting concussed last night, is a big

891
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: one for Houston. Try to overcome.

892
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: So, I will say before we get to Rick Carlisle

893
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: here in a few Ben Johnson is quickly becoming a coach.

894
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: I love Mark. Do you have this audio from yesterday?

895
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: Ye?

896
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: So my goat of the weekend was Ben Johnson's handshake

897
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: with Matt Lafleur. Is he coming back? By the way,

898
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: did we get the report yesterday?

899
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 4: Don't know?

900
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: Thought I saw Schefter say something along those lines. This

901
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: was Ben Johnson yesterday, Marcus the question included on this,

902
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: I think the question kind of sets it up. Okay,

903
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: this is Johnson yesterday. Further question about you know, Green Bay,

904
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: the rivalry, et cetera between one lasso, you know, the

905
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: two wins, things, the handshakes beyond you know, getting this

906
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: important playoff?

907
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: When? Why is this important to you? Or is there

908
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 4: something personal beyond that?

909
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 8: This is a rivalry and city of Chicago green Bay.

910
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 8: It needs to be a rivalry.

911
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: Me like.

912
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 10: Me like.

913
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: Glorious that the postgame locker room correct?

914
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: Well?

915
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: Right Johnson?

916
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: Right?

917
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: If the team prayer too?

918
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

919
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: Dropping the F bomb.

920
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: A father exit stage left. I got a few things

921
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: to say by the Green Bay Packers. This is healthy, Like,

922
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to turn this into like the NBA

923
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: bro culture everybody hugs after the game debate.

924
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 4: But I.

925
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: Sports hate is great.

926
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: And it's healthy, and it's I would argue it's necessary.

927
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: I'd argue it's really fun. Yeah, And more than anything,

928
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate his honesty. Like can you imagine Shane Stikeen

929
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: saying something along those lines about Damiko Ryans or Liam Cohen.

930
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: Well, for say, Kevin he has to beat him a

931
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: few more times.

932
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: I yes, I.

933
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: Was about to say, don't get up there and talk

934
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: trash to him. He's doing ten against them.

935
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: To your point, be like bury oed, I'm trying to

936
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: talk trash. Yeah, kurtzig Neddy right now. But no, Shane

937
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: Stycken would never.

938
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: And again it I guess it doesn't really matter in

939
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things, because I guarantee you if

940
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: the Bears had not had this much success this season,

941
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: people will be saying what Ben Johnson is doing is corny.

942
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: But I will say this, he is himself through and through.

943
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: And the fact that he said I talked to the

944
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: owner about this and we were on the same page.

945
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, Mark, I love great.

946
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: I love your coach.

947
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: I love him too. He's awesome.

948
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell he was doing going

949
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: for the fourth down early in that game from like

950
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: the thirty yard line, but.

951
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 2: I like him. He coaches football like he's playing Madden. Yeah,

952
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: I love it.

953
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely got that element too. It's speaking of coaches.

954
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle. He joins us on the other side.

955
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 6: They seized a fan morning show with KB Shab and Jeff.

956
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 11: Listen, guys, listen, when we first got here a coupley

957
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 11: five years ago. Coaching, we celebrate every win, but tonight's

958
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 11: no regular win. Eleven coaches in the NBA, I've reached

959
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 11: a thousand career wins. Never tonight we're celebrating you.

960
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: We're not watching that playing.

961
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 11: Did you want to keep coming?

962
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Coach Carlile, Congratulations man, one thousand wins.

963
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: Congratulations on your one thousand twins.

964
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: Can't wait to see the next thousand. Good luck this year.

965
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 12: Coach Richard Preston Carlisle, I just want to say congratulations

966
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 12: on a thousand wins.

967
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 4: Hi, Reckon, this is Luca.

968
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 6: I just want to congratulate you. One thousand wins.

969
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: Some pretty iconic voices there, and it's now win one

970
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: thousand and two, three in a row for the Indiana

971
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: Pacers as they take care of the Boston Celtics last night.

972
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: A little bit of a throwback score ninety eight ninety

973
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: six inside a game Bridgefield House. It is a Tuesday,

974
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: it is eight o'clock. We headed the Paylois Lickers hotline

975
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: right now and he is the head coach of the

976
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. He is Rick Carlisle coach. Good morning to you.

977
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: How are you?

978
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm okay, you guys must be awfully bored.

979
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: If you need Mark to send that to you, we

980
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: can certainly send that your way. I'm sure you would

981
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: love to play that over and over again. In all seriousness.

982
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: Congrats on getting to the thousand total. We might double

983
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: back on that at some point here, but let's go

984
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: back to last night. And you know you've made the

985
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: analogy before late game situations kind of like the red

986
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: zone of the NFL. What did you like about how

987
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: your team executed not just the Siakam floater, but in

988
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: the final few minutes.

989
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 4: We scored and they didn't. Pretty simple, easy enough.

990
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: The final play was that simply just let's get in

991
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the floor to our best player and

992
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: let him operate.

993
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, two best players really just involved both Andrew and

994
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 4: and Pascal. And look, wherever the best opportunity presents itself,

995
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 4: attack it.

996
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: Rick, what do you think Jay Huff has given you

997
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: all from a versatility standpoint, the ability to obviously finishing

998
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: unique ways around the rim, but also knock it down

999
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: from range.

1000
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: Well, those two things, you know, the rim protections the

1001
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 4: other thing that is really evident. And I assume he's

1002
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: still leading the blocks or he's certainly up there somewhere.

1003
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 4: But look, he's he's he's growing through this whole thing.

1004
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: New team, new situation, new system. Uh, you know, new

1005
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 4: new scenery for him and the family. You know, just

1006
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 4: a lot of things to adjust to, and you know,

1007
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: a different style of defense, you know, a myriad of things,

1008
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 4: and sometimes things take time. But he's gotten more and

1009
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 4: more momentum in in certainly recent weeks. And uh, he

1010
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 4: played big in the Charlotte game five days ago, and

1011
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 4: last night you know, he was he was terrific again, Rick.

1012
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you all rank the level

1013
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: of dogs on your team.

1014
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: D A. W.

1015
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: G But Quentin Jackson seems like he's in that category.

1016
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: What is it about that guy that allows him to

1017
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: just be fearless in big moments regardless of if he's

1018
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: even been in those moments before.

1019
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 4: Well, I used the word fearless occasion. I wouldn't say

1020
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 4: he was all the time. But you know, we want

1021
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 4: our guys to be fearless within their skill set, within

1022
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 4: their strengths. And you know, Quinn's the guy, you know

1023
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: from from his background and and everything else, who went

1024
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 4: through a lot, had to uh, had to go through

1025
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 4: a lot of things, a lot of challenges in his life.

1026
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 4: And you know, he's a he's a survivor and he'll

1027
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 4: tell you that. And so you know, when when we

1028
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: use the word fearless, you know, with him, it doesn't

1029
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: take much. And I thought, I thought his contribution last

1030
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 4: night U was was very very important. You know, the

1031
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 4: I think he went in the beginning of the fourth quarter.

1032
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: I haven't watched the game yet. I'm about to watch it,

1033
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: but he went in there and and things were things

1034
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: were you know, uh, you know, they were fragile and

1035
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: they were tipping, and he was decisive, he was aggressive.

1036
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 4: He made a difficult you know, little step back two

1037
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 4: point shot, then he hit a big three, and then

1038
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: he was on the floor a couple of times making

1039
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 4: plays and deflecting balls, and it just you know, his

1040
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: aggression the uh kept the crowd into it, and it

1041
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 4: kept our team aggressive and confident as well.

1042
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: That's Rick Carlisle Pacers three in a row and coming

1043
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: up tomorrow night. They got the Raptors Pelicans Friday as

1044
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: they conclude this four game homestand want to go back

1045
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: to Pascal Siaka his All Star candidacy. I think despite

1046
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, maybe whatever the wind total is and how

1047
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: people individuals can get criticized for that, I think it's

1048
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: very deserving. Is that something that you and your history

1049
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: have you gone about the way of contacting other coaches

1050
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: to try and pitch All Stars? Is that something that

1051
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: even happens? How does that process you know, work from

1052
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: a behind the scenes standpoint.

1053
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to get into it too much,

1054
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 4: but the answer is yes. And you know, but it's

1055
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 4: to me, it's it's not just something that you do

1056
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 4: on a commonplace place basis. It has to be a

1057
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: special situation to really go to bat. To me, this

1058
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: is one of those situations, and so you know, I'm

1059
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 4: trying to talk to as many coaches as possible and

1060
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: and really I believe he's going to get strong consideration.

1061
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: I don't know all the numbers in terms of guys

1062
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 4: that qualify and don't qualify. I know there's a minimum

1063
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: number of games and and things like that. So but

1064
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: he's been great, you know, And this is the third

1065
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 4: game winner and he may have he may even have

1066
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: more than three game winners. He he may have. Well,

1067
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 4: he had the decisive shot in the early game in

1068
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 4: our first win of the year against Golden State to

1069
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: give us the lead, and then I think I think

1070
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 4: Quinton Jackson got the got got the shot that put

1071
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: us up five or something like that. So this may

1072
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 4: be his fourth game winner out of you know, nine

1073
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 4: wins or whatever it is. And there may even be

1074
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 4: another one in there. You know, I'd have to go

1075
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 4: back and analyze it, but he's certainly deserving. Well.

1076
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: I thought that block he had too there late was

1077
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: it was a key key play when it was all

1078
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: said and done again. Rick call out with the Sea

1079
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: on the Payless Lickers hotline. Probably one of the wilder

1080
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: stats from last night. Seven fouls apiece. Did you did

1081
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: you feel that like as the game was moving along,

1082
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: Mike Rady said on the broadcast there are no fouls

1083
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Did you like view it as

1084
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: a I don't know, a less physical game or just

1085
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: more of a officiating we're kind of going to swallow

1086
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: whistle a little bit tonight.

1087
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 4: Good question, I you know, I you know, to the

1088
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: emphasis of not fouling is such a big thing with

1089
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: every team. I guess I would have to believe that

1090
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 4: every once in a while you get some kind of

1091
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 4: a perfect storm where you know, the game is physical,

1092
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 4: but people are playing on both sides of the ball

1093
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: with their feet and their bodies and keeping their hands

1094
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 4: out of it, and so you know, maybe that's maybe

1095
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 4: that's the contributors. Well, I mean I looked up there

1096
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 4: as well, and I saw and I saw the whole

1097
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: thing and it was just like whoa, you know, and

1098
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 4: filing has been one of our one of our challenges,

1099
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: and so we're doing better there. It shows growth on

1100
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 4: our part. I do think Boston is a team that

1101
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 4: does not file a whole lot, you know, if you

1102
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 4: look at their steps.

1103
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: Rick, I know you don't like talking about yourself, but

1104
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: a thousand wins is pretty significant in the NBA. So

1105
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: here's how I'll spin it. Who throughout this whole journey

1106
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: did you think of when you crossed that threshold, who

1107
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: helped you get to where you are, Whether it was

1108
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: from your playing days, obviously early coaching days, but just

1109
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: people along the way that helped you get to this milestone.

1110
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: Well, the number one thing that I thought of was

1111
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 4: our players, and you know, we had been through a

1112
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 4: difficult month and so that was that was the most

1113
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 4: important thing. But but my family has been, you know,

1114
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 4: absolutely supportive, Like you know, Donna and Abbey have been

1115
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 4: just phenomenal inspirations for me for many many years. And

1116
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 4: uh and look, I mean, if if I go back

1117
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: and think of people that have been really, really instrumental,

1118
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 4: certainly Larry Bird has been one. You know, playing with

1119
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 4: him for three years in Boston when he was the

1120
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 4: best player in the world really for all three years

1121
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 4: was was was an illuminating revelation for me, just to

1122
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 4: see what real greatness looked like. And then you know,

1123
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 4: moving on from there, you know, when I was in

1124
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 4: I was able to get my last shot to stay

1125
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: in the NBA with with New Jersey Nets and Bill

1126
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 4: Fitch had just taken the job, but he only had

1127
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 4: one assistant, and so I made the team for a

1128
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: month and when he was when he called me to

1129
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 4: cut me on the on the on the phone, he

1130
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 4: offered me a coaching job in the same during the

1131
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 4: same conversation, which was, uh, you know, life changing, absolutely

1132
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: life changing. Sides with him for three years. You know,

1133
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 4: he's in the Hall of Fame. And then Chuck Daily

1134
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: came in there for two years, and Chuck became a

1135
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 4: great trusted friend as well, great mentor like like Fitch was.

1136
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: And uh, those guys, those guys taught me so much

1137
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 4: about everything from the x's and o's of the game

1138
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 4: to the building of relationships. And then you know, on

1139
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 4: on from there. You know, I was fortunate I worked

1140
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 4: with PJ. Carlossimo for three years in Portland. He was

1141
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: the head coach back here. Larry Bird takes the Hey

1142
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: coaching job in Indiana, which you know was a shocker

1143
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 4: to me at the time, but it gave me the

1144
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 4: opportunity to really elevate my level of responsibility and and

1145
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 4: really began to start thinking about head coaching, and so,

1146
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 4: you know, on and on from there. But Indiana has

1147
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 4: been extremely important to me. Uh you know, my as

1148
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 4: I mentioned, my first assistant job here kind of got

1149
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 4: me in the conversation for head coaching jobs because you know,

1150
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: we came in and and and that team was a

1151
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: team that most people thought had run its course, you know,

1152
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 4: Reggie and Mark Jackson, Rick Smith's, the Davis Brothers. You know,

1153
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: it had kind of a down year the year before

1154
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 4: and Larry Bird came in and rejuvenated it. And you know,

1155
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 4: I had a lot of responsibility on that staff, and

1156
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 4: and that that got me into some of those conversations they.

1157
00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: Were asking on the pregame crew last night Coach that

1158
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: they had Derek Fisher and Austin Rivers and studio and

1159
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: the host it's also on Derek Fisher about you know,

1160
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: why do you think Rick Krarl has been able to

1161
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: reach you know, such a rare number. And he threw

1162
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: out two words of consistency and authenticity. I'm curious, do

1163
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: you have you know, kind of core coaching principles that

1164
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you walked into it with two decades ago,

1165
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: and if so, have those evolved?

1166
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 4: Well, I mean those two things are very important and

1167
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 4: it's interesting that you know he mentioned that and you

1168
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 4: mentioned it. You know, Derek Fisher was with us in

1169
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 4: Dallas for a relatively short time. It was the year

1170
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 4: after the championship. He came to us early in the year.

1171
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: He wasn't in training camp, and you know he to me,

1172
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: he's a what I would consider a Hall of Fame

1173
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 4: system player. You know, you look at everything he did

1174
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 4: with the Lakers and all that. But interesting, yesterday, there

1175
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: was a group of young corporate presidents that get together.

1176
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: It's like ten guys led by Asif Badet, who is

1177
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 4: one of our court side patrons at the Pacers. And

1178
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 4: those guys came in early and I had him in

1179
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: the locker room. I showed him around the locker room.

1180
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 4: They were in my office and one guy asked about

1181
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: my leadership style, and you know he used those two words.

1182
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 4: You know, those are the core things, is being authentic,

1183
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 4: truthful and consistent. And so that's kind of how I've

1184
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: built it. You know, relationships with players are interesting because

1185
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 4: everyone is different. And there's a great saying that, you know, players,

1186
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 4: you can't treat every player the same, but you can

1187
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: give them the same attention, and I think that's a

1188
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 4: very important element as well. So you know, I've tried

1189
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 4: to do those things and been very fortunate the great

1190
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 4: owners and you know, great management team. You know, Kevin

1191
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 4: Pritchard's been a you know, it's become a great trusted friend,

1192
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: and he's been phenomenal to work with, as as Chad

1193
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 4: and Ted and and so you know, we got we

1194
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: got a long way.

1195
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: To go here, and that's where Carlisle Pasts have won

1196
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: three in a row.

1197
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 4: Here.

1198
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: It'll be the Raptors tomorrow night, Pelicans coming up on

1199
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: Friday as they conclude this home stand. I realize he's

1200
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: only been in the state for hell less than two years,

1201
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: so I don't know if the interaction has even occurred.

1202
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: But have you come across Kurt Signetti at all in

1203
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 1: his brief time here in the state.

1204
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 4: I haven't, But I'm, you know, like like everyone in Indiana.

1205
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm an enormous admirer of of what

1206
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 4: he's doing. And uh, you know, there's there's a guy

1207
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 4: that has a basic, pretty simple plan and I love

1208
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 4: I love his his saying production over potential. I just

1209
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 4: you know, to me, that to me, that that speaks

1210
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 4: so many volumes and uh not only it's it's clear

1211
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 4: that not only is he a great football coach, but

1212
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: he's also a great relationship builder, and he's also a

1213
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: great businessman. You look at what they're doing in the portal,

1214
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 4: and certainly the support that they're getting they must be

1215
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 4: getting for n I l right now and I saw

1216
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 4: where you know, Mark Cuban was was at the most

1217
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: recent game, and and you know he's he's obviously a

1218
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: huge supporter, and so you know this thing, this thing

1219
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 4: looks like it's, you know, being built to last a

1220
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 4: very long time, and it's it's pretty awesome to see.

1221
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 4: But I would I look forward to meeting him some

1222
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 4: sometime and I can't say enough things about about what

1223
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 4: he's done. But they got one more game and.

1224
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: Men, so that last last one. Did you happen to

1225
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: catch the opposing head coach press conference from last night,

1226
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: Joe Missoula by any chance? Oh, why you brought up

1227
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: the screen Pascal Siakam set there at the end of

1228
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: the game there and maybe the legality of that screen.

1229
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 4: He'll get over it.

1230
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: Facers ninety eight, Celtics ninety six, last night, coach, congrats

1231
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: on one thousand. We'll have Mark send that your way

1232
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: if you or Donna want to have that for the archives. There,

1233
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, hell of an accomplishment. Congrats on the

1234
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: win last night, and we'll talk to you next Tuesday.

1235
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 4: I'd like I'd like to say one thing. If I

1236
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 4: had a dollar for every call I disagreed with this year,

1237
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if i'd still be doing this far enough.

1238
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: You might have the Cuban money right, thank you, coach

1239
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: pig Here that's Rick Carlisle right there on the Payless

1240
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: Liquors hotline. If you miss the Joe Missoula post in

1241
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: press conference, Mark, maybe we can dial that up again

1242
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: coming up here in a little bit there. Great work

1243
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: on the intro. I think Greg was a fan of it.

1244
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: I think you loved it. I'm as signed that the Pacers.

1245
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: James board right before that play saying, oh boy.

1246
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 3: I figured he'd hate it, but I'm like, hey, not

1247
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 3: every day you get to a thousand wins.

1248
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 1: It's like your grandma kissing you back in the day.

1249
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: Hey, I just know how it's gonna go. Man, I'm

1250
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: not new to do it.

1251
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: I know he does.

1252
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 2: He needs to be told he needs a pep talk.

1253
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: Deserved it quite well. Mark, actually do you have that

1254
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: Joe Mizula pressor for those days? Guess we got Taylor

1255
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: tannem Bom coming up talk to Miami Hurricanes here in

1256
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: about ten minutes. But yes, this is Joe Mizoula post

1257
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: game last night. Short, sweet to the point. I don't

1258
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: care what the questions are, Joe, give yourself a chance

1259
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: to win.

1260
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 13: I guess to see the last game.

1261
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: A couple of sessions.

1262
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 6: A legal screen, a legal screen, illegal, a leegal screen.

1263
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: What felt hard to get you guys behind?

1264
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,919
Speaker 6: And then how are you a legal screen?

1265
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 4: Where do you want people to do?

1266
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:25,959
Speaker 6: Legal screen? N A legal screen?

1267
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: Six of them, right, mark, not one, not two. I've

1268
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: never been in a press conference like that where it

1269
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: hits me like, oh boy, this is where it's going.

1270
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is funny.

1271
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean then it took her about three questions because, like,

1272
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean, watching the play, he erupts. One of their

1273
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: assistants does erupt as well. But like and I cringed

1274
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: maybe for a hair. I was like, oh boy, don't

1275
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: call it. But then once they didn't call it, I

1276
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: kind of forgot about it. And clearly, Joe Missoula strikes

1277
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: me as a very very unique individual. I never my

1278
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: way to put it, never met the dude in my life,

1279
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: but he strikes me as quite something.

1280
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a championship winning coach there.

1281
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, but the Pacers got the bust from last

1282
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: night eight ninety six. Let's lead off the check down

1283
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: right there, Mark, all right, Pacers win last night. Pascal

1284
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: Siakam the floater off the glass. There a little two

1285
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: man game that Carlo touched on Andrew Demhard and Pascal Siakam,

1286
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: And you thought initially maybe that that ball slipped almost

1287
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: out of his hands.

1288
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like it kind of slipped. But hey,

1289
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 2: the bank was open late last night.

1290
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,959
Speaker 1: Uh ninety eight ninety six. Again, that is their first win,

1291
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: not getting to one hundred points since November twenty twenty two.

1292
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: So you certainly don't see that very often in today's NBA.

1293
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: But the Pacers get done. That's three in a row.

1294
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: And again all the Raptors coming up tomorrow night inside

1295
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: of gambrierde Chills. I believe it's one of those WTCHR

1296
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: simulcast games. Last night, SMRK Dykedon was cackling from Hendricks

1297
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: County watching Aaron Rodgers crumble to the ground quite often.

1298
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: Mark your favorite Rogers failure from last night.

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Speaker 3: He had to be the pick six if that's the

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01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 3: way he's going out. He tried to stop it. He

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01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 3: knew it was going the going the other way if

1302
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 3: he didn't do it, so he put an effort in,

1303
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: but it wasn't enough.

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01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: Will that be the last time we see him throw

1305
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: a pass in the NFL?

1306
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. All I knew was like, oh boy,

1307
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: here we go. Here's the off season again. He's gonna

1308
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 3: play a koy In the post game, he said, I

1309
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 3: need to take my time and going to a cave.

1310
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: We're going to begin another month, multiple months of Willier

1311
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: won'ty again with Aaron Rodgers, just like he likes.

1312
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy the win for your Bears or the

1313
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: loss of Aaron Rodgers? No, the Bears win, without question,

1314
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: not even close. I don't know if I believe him.

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01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: I think Mark's one of those hate fans.

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 4: No, I didn't.

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01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: I didn't have the but this role action that I

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01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: had like on Saturday.

1319
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: This gets back to the underestimating the hate of the Packers.

1320
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: This gets back to our IU Purdue combos we've had

1321
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: in recent years and now it's being flipped. Obviously, we

1322
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: had the IU fan hey, are you enjoying you know,

1323
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: do you respect produced run? Are you enjoying produced run?

1324
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: And now the flip has occurred. Is there any Purdue

1325
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: fan out there that's psycho enough to say I want

1326
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: EU to lose Monday night more than I want my

1327
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: team to win the first Monday in April.

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01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: No, it was Saturday night for sure, because I was

1329
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 3: a sick oh yesterday and I actually tuned into some

1330
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 3: Milwaukee sports radio.

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: No, just for you guys, is in Gez you got issues?

1332
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: I know you need to look in the mayor. Hell

1333
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: of a defensive effort last night. If you went to bed,

1334
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: seven to six was a score at the start of

1335
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and the final was thirty to six CJ.

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: Stroud out of what three turnovers? Yes, I believe so. Yeah,

1337
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: because he had two lost fumbles in the pick and

1338
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: then fumbles. Yeah, it was rough.

1339
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior in that defensive line absolutely wrecked Pittsburgh there.

1340
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: So now we have set the divisional round for this

1341
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: weekend Saturday. It is the Bills, a slight road favorite

1342
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: at the number one seed. Broncos the forty nine ers

1343
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: is a touchdown underdog. They go to Seattle for a

1344
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: third time this season, playing the Seahawks. Sunday's two games

1345
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: starting at three o'clock would be the other AFC game.

1346
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,919
Speaker 1: That's the Texans traveling to Foxborough as a slight underdog

1347
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: to take on the Patriots, and then Mars Bears as

1348
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: a home dog taking on the Rams and Mark the

1349
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: Tempts look frigid? Is that correct?

1350
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's supposed to be bone chilling on eight degrees.

1351
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: Hey, Sunday kicktime, six thirty four. That one all right.

1352
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: North of the border. Tonight it'll be Indiana taking on

1353
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: Michigan State seven o'clock, five and a half point underdog,

1354
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: the Hoosiers and James Boyd. They need it. They need

1355
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: it badly. There's a resume right now that is lacking

1356
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: quality wins. This would be definitely that, particularly away from

1357
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: home right now. The resume lacks both stuff away from

1358
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: home and just substance. You can, you know, two birds

1359
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: with one zone if you're able to pull off that upset.

1360
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: And that is going to be quite the task because

1361
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 2: Michigan State is playing a very high level. I believe

1362
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: only two losses this year. If I'm not mistaken, and

1363
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: they're led by one of the best coaches ever.

1364
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, typical mission state, very balanced, rebounding their thing. That's

1365
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: been a question for Darren de car Boy that dude

1366
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: can fly. Ooh yeah. If I'm an IU, I'm saying,

1367
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: hey man, I'm not getting on any poster tonight when

1368
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: he's in the open floor looking ahead of the national

1369
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: title again. We'll talk more about Taylor Tannebaum coming up

1370
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: here in a few minutes. Does anyone in the world

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: out there care about Brooks Koepka leaving liv Goolf to

1372
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: come back to the PGA Tour.

1373
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 3: No, but it's sick that I thought of you immediately

1374
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 3: after I heard that news. Yet I did think of

1375
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 3: Kevin as well. I guess reading through it, I didn't

1376
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 3: understand why he would want to come back. Is it

1377
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: just to be part of the club again because the

1378
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 3: competition is a little bit better? Because from a money standpoint,

1379
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 3: I was like, well, if your whole thing from the

1380
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 3: jump was money, then why are you leaving.

1381
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, travel, I'd throw that in there is very different.

1382
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: That is a very global, global live golf tour, you know,

1383
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: different leadership with the pg Tour Brian Rolop, who a

1384
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: lot of people thought was going to take over for

1385
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell in the NFL at some point he comes

1386
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: over from the NFL. So again, this is me nerdy golfer,

1387
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: but I think it's a fascinating move and for those

1388
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: that aren't following it totally, the PJ Tour basically has

1389
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: said to four live golfers, Kepka being one of them,

1390
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: the other being John Ram, Cameron Smith, and who's my

1391
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: other one here, Rison right, Bryson, thank you major champions

1392
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty two, giving them like an ultimatum, in

1393
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: the next three weeks you have a decision, you can

1394
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: come back to the tour And I believe the penalties

1395
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,799
Speaker 1: for Brooks is he's got to donate five million to charity.

1396
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: He can't be involved in their equity program. I think

1397
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of the other punishment there.

1398
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 3: I'm a FedEx Cup too.

1399
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, something like you can't benefit from the

1400
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 1: FedEx Cup bonuses, So that's kind of his punishment. But

1401
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 1: they're leaving the door open and I'll be very curious

1402
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: to see if any of those guys decide to walk

1403
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: through that door. And I think it's very very fascinating leadership,

1404
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: frankly from Rolop and saying let's try and unite again,

1405
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: but let's be stern about it here. So yeah, I

1406
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: guess we got one more Live event right up there

1407
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: in Westfield coming up this year, and.

1408
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: Center for that one.

1409
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: We'll not be a part of that. Yeah, shirt off

1410
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: last year with my crushers painted across my chest mark. Boy, Yeah,

1411
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: there are fireballs? Is that what it was?

1412
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1413
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: You chuck one of the other three to jump.

1414
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: I was nerding out of some golf stuff yesterday. It

1415
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: sounds like their contracts might be a little different than Kopka,

1416
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: like not getting the weeds with Kopka, but like that

1417
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: dude never even posted on social media about Live, like

1418
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: it was purely did it for money, And now it's

1419
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: like this was stupid. I hate it. I want to leave,

1420
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: and I don't know if the other three feel the

1421
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: same way. Plus, you got to think those three have

1422
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: some leverage right now, don't they If you would think,

1423
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: can't they go to Live and say how about that?

1424
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: That needs one more Comma, that needs one more zero rights?

1425
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 2: Curt Signetty special. Yeah, so he's gained a lot of leverage.

1426
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 2: I feel like he gets leverage every day, getting more

1427
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: zeros on his checks. He deserves it.

1428
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell in Northwest Indiana, was he fair Oaks Farm?

1429
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:10,839
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1430
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can dive into that a little bit later

1431
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: after Taylor or something by the Steelyards. Things are still

1432
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 3: moving and grooving. The Northwest Indiana and the Bears.

1433
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 1: Picnic a lunch of the Brickey bawl right there for

1434
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, love the Bricky Bowl. Taylor Tanna Bom Miami

1435
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: Hurricanes chatter with the lead voice in the ACC Network,

1436
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: Taylor Tannebom ACC Network going to join us here in

1437
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: a minute. We'll talk the Miami Hurricanes with her. Of course,

1438
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: she used to call this market home, so we'll get

1439
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: some insight there from the Miami side of it and

1440
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: continue to keep you up to date on where things

1441
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: stand heading into Monday night. That line again seven and

1442
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: a half sounded like Indiana clean bill of health exiting

1443
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: the peach bowl there. You know, all in all, Indiana

1444
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: has been really healthy. You know, the Steven Daily thing

1445
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: was obviously a freak.

1446
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 5: Oh.

1447
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 2: I want to say that might be a direct result afterwards,

1448
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: because I can only imagine and encouraging that He's saying,

1449
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: all of you do not jump to.

1450
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: High five and you're not celebrate. But you look at

1451
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: the last two years, and you know, maybe it's the

1452
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: shorter practice. I don't know, maybe I'm making too much

1453
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: of it, but I think part of it is, well,

1454
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: you know a little bit of luck too. Sure play

1455
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: volin gang Yato City that I'm just checking here. The

1456
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: line's climbing eight and a half now for Indiana as

1457
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: they are favored over the Miami Hurricanes on Monday. Someone

1458
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: that will certainly be there and has been front and

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: center for this Hurricane run. She does outstanding work over

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: at the worldwide leader and the lead host for ACC Network,

1461
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: the Great Taylor Tannebaum joins us. Taylor, good morning to you.

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: How are you.

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 5: I'm great, Good morning friends. It's great to talk to you,

1464
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 5: and I'm so excited personally for this game coming up,

1465
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 5: but also just for the matchup itself. But I'm happy

1466
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 5: to be with you guys this morning.

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01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: Imagine three years ago one of us saying to you,

1468
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: not only are you going to have a job at

1469
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: ESPN covering a team in the National Championship, but the

1470
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: opponent is going to be the Indiana football program.

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 5: I would have lapped in your face. I would have

1472
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 5: laughed in your face.

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01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: You covered Indiana, I'm gonna guess sparingly, right. I mean,

1474
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: like not to get in the weeds of like sports

1475
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: media coverage, but I'm gonna guess like it wasn't maybe

1476
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: top of mind to make the track down a Bloomington

1477
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,440
Speaker 1: on a weekly basis back in your day at WTHR.

1478
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure it even cracked like the top

1479
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 5: ten of things that were priority to cover in terms

1480
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 5: of sports in Indianapolis. And that's not necessarily a slight

1481
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 5: on Indiana football. It's just like what the reality was.

1482
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 5: And look, when I was there, it was during you know,

1483
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 5: Tom Allen trying to turn this thing around, so there

1484
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 5: was some buzz, but you know, COVID happened, and then it.

1485
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 14: Was just kind of like, well, it's business as usual

1486
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 14: when it came to Indiana football. And you know, I

1487
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 14: went to a couple of Oaken Bucket games and you

1488
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,520
Speaker 14: were lucky if half the stadium was full in Bloomington.

1489
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 5: So to see the transformation, I just I think it's

1490
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 5: tells you in this day and age in college football,

1491
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:08,480
Speaker 5: the word investment is everything and they invested in football,

1492
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 5: and you have results on the football field. And investing

1493
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 5: also means not just monetarily, but you know, finding the

1494
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 5: right person to lead your football program, and they certainly

1495
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:19,839
Speaker 5: found that in Kurt Signetti.

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01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: Taylor must say was pretty not shocking to me, but

1497
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: just funny to me to see you standing on the

1498
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 2: sidelines of the Miami Ohio state game and I'm looking

1499
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: at you next to ray Lewis, I'm like, what heck

1500
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 2: is this? Like that's such a crazy rise. And obviously

1501
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm very had for all your success. But getting back

1502
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 2: to the Miami team, I know the talk here is

1503
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: all about IU and the remarkable run they've been on,

1504
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: but can you kind of give us the I guess

1505
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: quick soliloquy on the remarkable run that Miami's been on,

1506
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: because it has not always been great vibes for that team,

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01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: especially earlier in the year.

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 5: No, for sure. Well, first of all, congratulations to you,

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01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 5: my friend, on your award, well deserved, and yeah, when

1510
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 5: you're on the Miami sideline, trust me, I didn't ever

1511
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 5: have doing television with ray Lewis on my bingo card.

1512
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 5: Kind of like if you would have asked me three

1513
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 5: years ago, if this were the championship matchup, I would

1514
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,919
Speaker 5: have told you you were crazy. But as for Miami,

1515
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 5: look it's in start contrast to Indiana historically in terms

1516
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 5: of football, because like this right now is where Miami

1517
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 5: expects to be every single year. And it's funny because

1518
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 5: when they joined the ACC in two thousand and four,

1519
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:34,440
Speaker 5: the expectation was this to be competing for conference championships,

1520
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 5: to be competing for national championships. But that's when they

1521
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 5: started to go the other direction. After winning five national championships,

1522
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 5: and then they lost in that two thousand and three

1523
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 5: Fiesta Bolt to Ohio State and it kind of just

1524
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 5: sent them on this this decline. So for years and

1525
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 5: years and years, Miami's just been riding on the brand

1526
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 5: and hoping the brand can get back to being what

1527
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 5: it is. And four years ago they made the decision

1528
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 5: down there in Coral Gables to again higher. I had

1529
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 5: coach that they felt like best suited the program, and

1530
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 5: that was their love and Mario Christophal who left an

1531
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 5: Oregon team that was coming off of a ten win season,

1532
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 5: you know, And it was a slow burn. It wasn't

1533
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 5: necessarily instant success like when five and seven in his

1534
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 5: first season and then the next year there was a

1535
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 5: winning record, but there were some mistakes made. I e.

1536
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 5: The Georgia Tech game, most specifically, which I sidelined where

1537
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 5: they didn't just take a knee late and turn the

1538
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 5: ball over, and Georgia Tech wins, and you know, you're

1539
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 5: questioning if this is going in the right direction. But

1540
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 5: Patients was key when it came to Miami. And the

1541
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 5: biggest thing about Miami is to me, the balance of

1542
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 5: their roster is, you know, just north of fifty percent

1543
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 5: of their starts this season come from transfers, and they're

1544
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 5: important guys, guys like Carson.

1545
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 4: Beck and CJ.

1546
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 5: Daniels Junior and Keelan Merry, and they're on the offensive

1547
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 5: side their receivers, and then you know defensively like Keyante

1548
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 5: Scott and Jacoby Thomas, like their secondary those who have

1549
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 5: been key components. But a lot of this is homegrown talent,

1550
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 5: right and guys that they recruited from one of the

1551
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 5: hottest beds in all the country in South Florida and Miami,

1552
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 5: and who believed in Mario Christoval's vision back four years

1553
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 5: ago and said, you know, I want to be a

1554
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 5: part of something bigger than myself, kind of like these

1555
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 5: IU players are and did with sig and here they

1556
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 5: are in the National Championship. So it's been a great

1557
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 5: run to get back to here, like twenty three years

1558
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 5: since they've played in the National Championship and lost that

1559
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 5: one to Ohio State, and this year started in November,

1560
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 5: people really counted them out, started as national Championship contenders.

1561
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 5: A bit of a lull, but that's what the CFP

1562
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 5: is all about. It gives people chances even if you

1563
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 5: lose a few.

1564
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 2: So looking at this matchup, it's definitely fair to say

1565
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: that Miami is the underdog, not historically but in this game.

1566
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 2: So how much do you think they are embracing that

1567
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: part of it and trying to obviously capture a national

1568
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 2: championship in spoil sort of the ride that we've been

1569
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 2: on here in Indianapolis.

1570
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 5: Well, I want to preface this by saying I am

1571
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 5: a Flora State grad, so covering Miami is definitely and

1572
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 5: been so invested.

1573
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: It's definitely different.

1574
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 5: But I'm also from South Florida, so it's cool to see,

1575
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 5: you know, people I care about be so hyped up

1576
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 5: about this. I think they.

1577
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 4: Embraced the underdog role.

1578
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 5: I kind of hated the fact that they were favored

1579
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 5: against ole myths because they were underdogs. When they went

1580
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 5: to A and M. They were underdogs, certainly against the

1581
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 5: defending national champ in Ohio State. I personally think what KB,

1582
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 5: I think you said, eight is now.

1583
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 4: The line coming in eight?

1584
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's I think that's crazy, just based

1585
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 13: on what we have seen in the last seven games.

1586
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 5: For that to be, you know, the difference. But that's

1587
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 5: just me. I think they're okay being counted out. They

1588
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 5: have been all season. They were after they lost November

1589
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 5: one to FMU. They were count it out against A

1590
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,839
Speaker 5: and M, counting out against Ohio ste even against Ole Miss.

1591
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 5: You know, if you're a college football fan, and you'll

1592
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 5: love a good story like Ole Miss, great story, losing

1593
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 5: their head coach Indiana incredible story, greatest turnaround ever in

1594
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 5: college football history. Like you know, no one, no one's

1595
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 5: rooting for little old Miami if you're you're not a

1596
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 5: Miami fan really, because you know, people like to hate

1597
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 5: on the U. So I think they're okay with it.

1598
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 13: I think they're cool.

1599
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 5: Being in this position. I personally think eight and a

1600
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 5: half is crazy work. But but then again, spot the

1601
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 5: ball and see what happens. There's a reason Indiana has

1602
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 5: been so dominant this season.

1603
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 2: A little old Miami boy have changed. They got Scott

1604
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: Scarvers and Bloomington.

1605
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: Now seven fifty. On Monday night, it will be Miami

1606
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 1: in Indiana for a national championship. That's a voice of Taylor. Tannebomb,

1607
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: of course, used to work here in indian is a

1608
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: megastar over at ESPN and is the lead voice on

1609
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: the ACC Network. Okay, Taylor, I've got buddy mine that

1610
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: I used to work with, works now in the Miami

1611
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: Athletic department. You just text me over the weekend. He's like, Hey,

1612
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: let's look at the Ohio State games. You know, we

1613
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: played better against Ohio State than Indiana did. If you

1614
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 1: really want to, you know, splice things out. You brought

1615
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: up those receivers Marion Daniels, obviously, Malachai, Tony and then

1616
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: those defensive ends you know from mckeim Mesidor and Ruben Bain.

1617
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: Which do you think, you know, maybe should fear Indiana

1618
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: more what that defensive line has done, or maybe just

1619
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: the unique skill sets of those wide outs, particularly Tony

1620
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: who just amazing what he's doing as a whatever eighteen

1621
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: year old.

1622
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 5: For me, certainly in that respect, the matchup lives with

1623
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 5: Fernandamn Those and that really incredible IU offensive line who

1624
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 5: should have won the Joe More Award. Eric McLean. My

1625
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 5: analyst Sunny Cgiettle, talks about it all the time. He's like,

1626
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 5: it's ridiculous that they didn't win that award. Looked, Miami

1627
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 5: is a great old line too, but Indiana's is really

1628
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 5: really good. It's Fernanda Mendoza against the pressure in that

1629
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 5: front of the Miami Hurricanes, and the numbers maybe don't

1630
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 5: speak in the last game because it's what have you

1631
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 5: done for me lately? Against Ole Miss? Was what that

1632
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 5: d line for Miami can do because Trinidad Chambliss is

1633
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 5: that special. They only racked up one sack, but Ruben

1634
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 5: Bain and Miami native and a key messador Will Hunt

1635
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 5: and a mod Moten in the middle. He kind of

1636
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 5: anchors that defensive line. He's been banged up a little bit.

1637
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 5: Apparently he's been a full go at practice this week.

1638
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 5: I dug up some numbers with my researcher drew yesterday

1639
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 5: at ESPN and in.

1640
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 4: The four games in Big.

1641
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 5: Ten play that IU had where they scored thirty points

1642
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 5: or less. That's where Fernando Mendoza was pressured. Ghost it

1643
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 5: was Iowa, it was ten State, it was the regular

1644
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 5: season Oregon game, and it was the Indiana Ohio State game,

1645
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 5: and the Big Ten Championship and the Big Ten Championship.

1646
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 5: He was pressured just north of fifty eight percent of

1647
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 5: the time, and that's when they scored thirty points or less.

1648
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 5: And Miami brings the most pressure of any team that

1649
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 5: they faced this season in Dienna. So those are some

1650
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 5: of the numbers that we kind of, you know, worked

1651
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 5: up yesterday. So that's something I'm watching because Franta Mendoza

1652
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 5: is special, but so is that Miami defensive line and

1653
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 5: those two guys. This means something to them, just like

1654
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 5: it does for a lot of these players. So I'm

1655
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna be watching that match up very very

1656
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 5: closely on Monday night.

1657
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 2: So the last one I'll have for you, Taylor, And

1658
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 2: it's not that serious, maybe kind of serious. How aware

1659
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 2: do you have to be of Michael Irvin on the sidelines,

1660
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: because I feel like it can be a great moment

1661
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: but also a dangerous moment depending on his reaction. To

1662
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: any play.

1663
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's all over the place, that's for sure. And

1664
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 5: I was kind of laughing about it. I have a

1665
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 5: show today and it's like, you know, which has the

1666
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 5: better if you were to compete with the lums in

1667
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 5: terms of not just in totality football, just you have

1668
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 5: Mark Cuban on IU side and you have Michael Irvin

1669
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 5: on the Miami side. And I was like, you know,

1670
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 5: Mark Cuban puts his money where his mouth is and

1671
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 5: that's his support. And he's obviously shows up you know,

1672
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 5: in person too. But but Irv, I don't know what

1673
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 5: his pockets look like when it comes to you, but

1674
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 5: he pays in passion, that man. And I'm sure he'll

1675
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 5: have a belt in hands and he'll see if she's

1676
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 5: able to use it at the end of the game.

1677
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 5: But it's it's really remarkable when you look down the

1678
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 5: Miami sideline at some of these games and them, you know,

1679
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 5: Edge was very joint our alternate broadcast last week. Reggie

1680
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 5: Wayne's been there, so I know those are guys who

1681
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 5: are probably getting smacked from the Indiana side of things,

1682
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 5: and uh, yeah, is is a different breed. I'll say that.

1683
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: I can't wait for the inside Michael Irvin celebrations with

1684
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 2: Taylor Tannebaum. He's gonna be great, great television.

1685
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: It's so good Taylor will send you off on this

1686
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: h Certainly the weather is not so ben. You missed

1687
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:05,440
Speaker 1: by any means. Is there one Indianapolis establishment that maybe

1688
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,799
Speaker 1: you have missed in your couple of years away from

1689
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: the nap.

1690
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 5: Well, I miss my people and you guys and the

1691
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 5: family that you create in the media world. I don't

1692
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 5: think people realize how how great it really is in Indiana.

1693
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 5: But the other day I was at home and it

1694
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 5: was kind of gross out and I was like, man,

1695
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 5: I wish I had cluster truck right now.

1696
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: Look at that you listen I was.

1697
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm thinking about that business plan and

1698
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 5: should I try to implement it because I live in

1699
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 5: Connecticut now. I moved about a year ago to Connecticut.

1700
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 5: So I was like, I need some cluster truck like

1701
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 5: Matt and Che's a case idea and a salad like

1702
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 5: I would love just the schmorgasboard that you can get

1703
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 5: from Cluster Truck.

1704
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: James Boyd Cluster Truck hat on Taylor, you want to

1705
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 1: be a little more jealous every Tuesday and at about

1706
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, the great Evan Cheryl will be out front

1707
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 1: of our building giving Cluster Truck. We are partners with them.

1708
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: They do great, great work. The food is amazing. So

1709
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: how about that right there, Taylor tannem.

1710
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 5: Bomb Listen that that was an unpaid program perfect?

1711
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: How about that big time well Cluster Truck cut that

1712
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: that'll be on their marketing right here for the year

1713
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six. You're a star. Thank you for

1714
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 1: making time for us this week. Have a blast. I

1715
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: think this is a really really cool just whatever sports

1716
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: job moment for you. So have a great, great time

1717
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 1: and we'll certainly be watching you. Guys are the best.

1718
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Taylor Tannebom right there, pay Less

1719
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Speaker 1: Liquors Hotline again, the lead host on the AC Network,

1720
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Speaker 1: And frankly, she's over many networks, so many other game boards,

1721
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: a lot of women's basketball ESPN. I saw her doing

1722
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: the Frozen four hockey sideline. Do you call it sidelines

1723
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: for hockey?

1724
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: I actually don't know. That's something I have to follow

1725
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 2: over with her about. But boy, she is all over

1726
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 2: the place and deservedly so very good.

1727
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: At a job like the Miami Insight and they go

1728
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: needed to get the other side of it here again,

1729
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: this line continues to climb eight and a half now

1730
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: for the Hoosiers as they are favored. We'll sprinkle in

1731
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 1: some more of the Chris Ballard combo that we hit

1732
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: on earlier, some audio from Mario Christobaul with some high

1733
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: praise there for Friendanda Windos in the IU defense, and

1734
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: much more on the Pacers three game win streak. We'll

1735
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 1: do it all here. Kevin Bow and James Boyd Mark

1736
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: Titon on a Tuesday enjoyed the Rick Carlisle combo Taylor Tannebomb.

1737
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: Both of those up on the podcast hit a lot

1738
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 1: of different things with Rick Carlisle there in the eight

1739
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: o'clock hour, some I don't know, maybe funny back and

1740
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: forth in the Joe Miszoula postgame press conference from last night,

1741
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: and plenty of praise for Kurtzignetti from AFAR there with

1742
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: Rick Carlile. One thing I saw over the weekend, I

1743
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: want to get your guys thoughts on and I don't know,

1744
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more of it again on with.

1745
01:27:55,680 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 3: Time, Mark he'll get over it.

1746
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean, at one point, Mark, you're gonna have to

1747
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: montage all of the Rick Carlisle snippets.

1748
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: Oh, there's plenty of good ones. Oh my gosh, I

1749
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: want to see their faces.

1750
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 1: I want to see their faces. You know, I acknowledge

1751
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 1: the question. I don't respect the question. I believe he

1752
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: said to me one.

1753
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 3: Time, there's a couple I've just never edited. Then like,

1754
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 3: I can't air those until I edit them, because yeah,

1755
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 3: there are some ones that.

1756
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Was that me asking them about this Halloween costume Mark

1757
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: when he said that he know knowledge that, Yeah, won't

1758
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: respect the question. I saw this from Brian Curtis James.

1759
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: You might be familiar with Brian Curtis. He's one of

1760
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: the like the sports media whatever guru's out there, and

1761
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:45,560
Speaker 1: I thought he had a really interesting comment in regards

1762
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: to the quarterback interview that we see on the field

1763
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: after games. You know what, ninety NFL games, the winning

1764
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: quarterback gets interviewed after the game. And he brought up,

1765
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: and it was in relation to the Bills Jags game,

1766
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: that he would like to see the interview turn into

1767
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: usually what's two to three questions? Yeah, one of those

1768
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: questions you hand said player iPad and you watch a

1769
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: play from the game. And so for Josh Allen's case,

1770
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,759
Speaker 1: you would have handed him the iPad of the throat

1771
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: to Brandon Cook's and he walks you through that play.

1772
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, how many times in a postgame press conference

1773
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: do you ask Daniel Jones about a particular play?

1774
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1775
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Pretty much every game, right, like often you know, good,

1776
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: good or bad. Obviously, the on field interviews I get

1777
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: is primarily going to be good because you know, that's

1778
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: the winning quarterback there. But I wouldn't mind seeing that

1779
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: it's just like a little change there. And again some

1780
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 1: people out there it might be like Kevin, I don't

1781
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: care at all. You know, it's a stupid, you know

1782
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: point to even bring up.

1783
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1784
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 1: The postgame interview can get a little tire some I think, ye.

1785
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: And you know, even last time for the Pacers, if

1786
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: you could have provided if Robbie Hommel could have had

1787
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: an iPad there and said, hey Pascal, because I think

1788
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: when you watch the play, I think it ignites some

1789
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 1: things going on in your brain that maybe when you

1790
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 1: just are asked about it and you're not watching the

1791
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: play itself, yeah, you don't think.

1792
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 2: Of you probably don't see a lot of it it

1793
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 2: because often what will happen. When we ask a player

1794
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 2: about it after the game or a particular play, they'll say, well,

1795
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet, and I have done it

1796
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 2: in the locker room sometimes where it's like, oh, you haven't, Well,

1797
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 2: here's my phone, because in our world it's like this

1798
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 2: has been played thirty times, but I'm not sure it

1799
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,799
Speaker 2: about you know, post game, shower, family whatever. And contrary

1800
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: to popular belief, not every player runs to their phone.

1801
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 2: So I would like that to be an element. I

1802
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 2: think that's something that could be worked out. You don't

1803
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 2: have to have to have it like ready made and

1804
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 2: very quickly get it done and make sure the you know,

1805
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 2: reception is good when you hit play it's not you know, buffering.

1806
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 2: But along those lines, I think something like that could

1807
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: also work for the Bears game. The throw on fourth

1808
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 2: down to Caleb Williams and he.

1809
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Doesn't rebat final play the game I mean a play right, Yeah,

1810
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: I mean the Josh Allen players there for the two

1811
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: minute warning, the Kayleb Williams play you bring up is

1812
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: what five minutes ago in the game.

1813
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that ultimately I enjoyed the broadcast

1814
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 2: better when I'm able to perhaps learn something other than

1815
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 2: like the typical one play at a time, one week

1816
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 2: at a time. Next man up, Like, we hear all

1817
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 2: that stuff all the time. But if you can actually

1818
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 2: tell me why a play worked, so I better understand

1819
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 2: it as if you were, that would be a cool element.

1820
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 2: Because even a quick example of that, I thought was

1821
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 2: kind of when Tom Brady was talking about how to

1822
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 2: throw a football in the.

1823
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: Cold or whatever and the wind.

1824
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, that was win. I'm sorry where he's like, yeah,

1825
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 2: you got to hold it with a different grip and

1826
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 2: make sure that you get you know, your thumb at

1827
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 2: this angle. That was cool. Tell me now, I might

1828
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 2: be nerdy to something, but fascinating. Hey I liked it.

1829
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I all of a sudden thought to myself,

1830
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: boy can we get a windy day? And all of

1831
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: a sudden, I send Rosie out on a little you know,

1832
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: nine round and see if she can, you know, handle

1833
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 1: my spiral here. Maybe I need to get a vortex.

1834
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: I used to love all of those things whistled through

1835
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: the wind. There there you go. AFC team that will

1836
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: not win the Super Bowl four left, the one you

1837
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: least believe in.

1838
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 2: AFC team that is least likely to win the Super.

1839
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: Bow Buffalo at Denver Houston at New England.

1840
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 2: Houston. I might know. I might go New England. I

1841
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 2: might go New England.

1842
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Mark. Did you watch the fourth quarter last night?

1843
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 4: I did.

1844
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 3: I also watched CJ. Stroud play, and I was like,

1845
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 3: if they played anybody else right now, they probably be.

1846
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: But if C J. Stroud just doesn't fumble like he

1847
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: coughed it up three times and they won by twenty

1848
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: three points, twenty four points, that defense is I is it?

1849
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 15: Two thousand Ravens pretty damn good? And Trip's up there,

1850
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 15: Trent dilferd, It's up there. But I will say to

1851
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 15: that point, Drake May had a pretty shaky first game

1852
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 15: in the playoffs. Do you trust him in his second

1853
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 15: year to get you all the way to Super Bowl? Boy,

1854
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 15: that's a tall task. He's capable of it. I think

1855
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 15: that team is capable of it. But I would pick

1856
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 15: them to be my most iffy about the Broncos. I

1857
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 15: guess I've had some success recent little bow nicks, but

1858
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 15: maybe I should have picked them.

1859
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't think it for though,

1860
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 2: I feel like that's the Tippings point.

1861
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean I feel like you could flip

1862
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: a coin because Mark in Vegas right now, they've got

1863
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo favored. I mean I think you could flip a

1864
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: coin for that matchup for the four AFC teams, Oh yeah,

1865
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: probably because like out West, I feel like and again

1866
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 1: or out West. Sorry the NFC, I feel like every

1867
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 1: time we write them off, but at some point the

1868
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: injuries have got to in San Francisco season, like they

1869
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: would be the one team and Vegas has them as

1870
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: a touchdown underdog. But in the AFC, Man, I have

1871
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: no idea.

1872
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 2: So it was the only Super Bowl winning quarterback left

1873
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford.

1874
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe Serdy has got there of course. Yeah,

1875
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 1: and uh, you know Alan would be the one in

1876
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: the AFC that is the most deck rated.

1877
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 2: Of the boy it is wide open this year.

1878
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm bow next still going for his first playoff win, right,

1879
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's only been the league for two years.

1880
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 2: But I just you know, tough, greater you are, Kevin Bowen.

1881
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying for the for the ones, for you,

1882
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 1: there's a default win right there. A little bit more substance.

1883
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: Granted that that Denver defense might have something to say

1884
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: about you know, two thousand Ravens. All right, coming up

1885
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: nine o'clock hour. Much more on the Chris Ballard combo

1886
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,560
Speaker 1: from last week and Mario crist of ball with some

1887
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: high praise from Fernanda Mendozo. Those two went to the

1888
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 1: same high school. We'll hit on that as well. They

1889
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: see sed a fan morning show with Kabi KB and Jeff.

1890
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 8: I thought we talked about this last night through text

1891
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 8: that you weren't going to stay ball holder so many times,

1892
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 8: and I wouldn't say shell covered. I thought we had

1893
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 8: a deal.

1894
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 12: I think I didn't. I didn't agree to that. We

1895
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 12: did have a text. I didn't know you were going

1896
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 12: to share. You took a screen shot. I thought there

1897
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 12: was a little bit of a nest, but you're in violation.

1898
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 12: But no, I didn't agree to that. And I don't

1899
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 12: like your word shell. I think it's lazy, like like

1900
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 12: I say in my text here. But ballholder it's a

1901
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 12: more fun word to say. It's more accurate. People understand it.

1902
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 12: JJ Watt loved ball holders. He loved that. He preferred,

1903
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 12: you know, quarterbacks hold their balls, I mean hold the ball.

1904
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 12: But you know, like I said, you can't have a

1905
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 12: lot on them.

1906
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 4: Tonight.

1907
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 12: You gotta be singular on the ball, right, singular on

1908
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 12: the ball. Yeah, yeah, holders is fine.

1909
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 8: But I'm not asking JJ Watt if he likes a

1910
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 8: ball holder.

1911
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 4: I'm just what I'm not doing.

1912
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 12: I'll ask Ben Roethlisberger was a ball holder. He held

1913
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 12: it forever and made a ton of plays. But I'm

1914
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 12: just saying, that's the point. If you get greeted tonight

1915
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 12: and call a bunch of ball holders, Hunter Anderson are

1916
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 12: getting home, so you got to mix in these short passes.

1917
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 4: So I've heard, I mean, first of all, I've heard

1918
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 4: there's a lot of ball talk going on here tonight.

1919
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 8: Ball holders holding ball, a lot going on here.

1920
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 3: Will Ferrell, no JJ Watt, That was J.

1921
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 2: J Watt.

1922
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 3: JJ Watt and Ben Roethlisberger were the guests on the

1923
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 3: manning cast. I thought it was probably the.

1924
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: Best man castle.

1925
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 1: I thought that Ferrell.

1926
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,440
Speaker 3: I thought that was one of the best manning casts.

1927
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 2: They've had in quite a while. It was great.

1928
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,759
Speaker 1: You know, I have I have enjoyed the JJ Watt

1929
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,759
Speaker 1: broadcasting experience. I enjoyed him on the calls some games.

1930
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed listening to him. The few snippets I've seen

1931
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: on with McFee as well. Yeah, I think he does

1932
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 1: a good job.

1933
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 3: It was out they said he talked about it last night.

1934
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 3: He said they had to convince him to do it

1935
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 3: because he's like, I don't want to do it, and

1936
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 3: just give it a year, see if you like it.

1937
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 3: And he's like, I love it now.

1938
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: And you know he was in the studio right for

1939
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: one year and then they brought him. Yeah now with

1940
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 1: Iron Eagle. Uh yeah, he does good work there. Yeah, Roethlisberger,

1941
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 1: you could take that joke a lot of different ways.

1942
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: I didn't watch Manicamps last night.

1943
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 3: I mean I was a good one.

1944
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 1: I was watching a lot of Pacers and I thought

1945
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 1: the Peacock broadcast was pretty good. I thought Robbe Hummel

1946
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: did a nice job there. Michael Grady was, I mean

1947
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:11,600
Speaker 1: he was literally alone at the table across from the

1948
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,560
Speaker 1: scores table there with they had Brian Scalabrini close to

1949
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: the Celtics bench and then Hummel close to Pacers bench.

1950
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 1: Kind of a unique broadcast there for the Pacers. Is

1951
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: they have won now three in a row. It'll be

1952
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: the Raptors coming up tomorrow night. We didn't get to

1953
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 1: this last week. James. It might have actually happened. After

1954
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 1: the show ended, Quentin Nelson with another All Pro. So

1955
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 1: what is that six for him in his career?

1956
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1957
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: Three time first team All Pro, three times second team

1958
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 2: All Pro. He was second team All Pro this past season.

1959
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 2: So six in his first eight years and eight for eight.

1960
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: When it comes to Pro Bowls in his career, I

1961
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 1: think you can go ahead and make the bust.

1962
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 2: It's time.

1963
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 1: I think you he has done enough that is a

1964
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and that is likely the only reason

1965
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: I paused is because the voting's but that is likely

1966
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 1: a first ballot halting.

1967
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably the greatest offensive lineman in Cold's history. I

1968
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 2: would think I'd have to look up maybe some people

1969
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 2: from the olden days, but I can't imagine that many

1970
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 2: have fair statement that sort of resume. Now, obviously, I

1971
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 2: would think that when it comes to Quentin Nelson, who

1972
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 2: hates to talk about his accomplishments, he would much rather

1973
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 2: be talking to us about postseason success. One thing missing

1974
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 2: from his resume he is is.

1975
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: He due for an extension? I might think so.

1976
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 2: I feel like he might be in that group because

1977
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: he's signed an extension in twenty twenty two. So yeah,

1978
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 2: he's probably coming up on a new deal.

1979
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: Does Jonathan Taylor have leverage for contract extension? He certainly

1980
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:47,480
Speaker 1: did a Halloween.

1981
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I think he's still a very good

1982
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 2: player and productive player, But I guess it depends on

1983
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 2: what you think your championship window is, sess.

1984
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 3: Quentin Nelson is heading into the final of the year

1985
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 3: of his contract, so he's an unrestricted free agent in

1986
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven.

1987
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I should probably get my pre right done

1988
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:05,480
Speaker 2: on an extension for Quentnils.

1989
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: He got several of those, Mark, you got several of

1990
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: those heading in. I think Taylor's one of them too,

1991
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: heading into the last year of their deal. And I mean,

1992
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 1: given a running back a third contract, boy, that's about

1993
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:19,799
Speaker 1: as scary. That's scary to me, honestly. But then again, Taylor,

1994
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, is he a little bit more Derrick Henry

1995
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: and just he can defy some of the odds obviously

1996
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 1: late in the season, just know, rushing success whatsoever. I mean,

1997
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing to continue to go back and look

1998
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 1: at those numbers. And Ballard really harped on that last Thursday, James.

1999
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean that was you know, I thought Ballard had

2000
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 1: maybe three and feel free to agree disagree. I thought

2001
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: he had three roster team related focuses for next season.

2002
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: The first one was pretty clear, we have to get

2003
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: younger and faster on defense. Okay, put that into a category,

2004
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: I'd say the second one he mentioned a little bit

2005
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: more abstract, a little bit harder to maybe you know,

2006
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: just plug and play personnel to handle adversity better. You know,

2007
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 1: we have to get deeper. We have to you know,

2008
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: have a little bit more depth. We have to be

2009
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: able to win late season games better. And then the

2010
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: last one is we have to run it when we

2011
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 1: want to run it, and it can't just be we

2012
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 1: have to have Daniel Jones healthy and playing quarterback because

2013
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 1: in all likelihood Daniel Jones will have some limitations on

2014
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 1: him when he gets back in the lineup, Like I

2015
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: don't think he's coming back and just running bootleg galore

2016
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 1: like you did first two months of the season. Yeah.

2017
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 2: My whole thing is just how do you tweet this roster,

2018
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 2: get this team together to a point where you can

2019
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 2: confidence and say they're competing for something in twenty twenty six.

2020
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 2: What's going to be different? Because you can't change a

2021
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 2: whole lot because you told us you felt as you

2022
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 2: were kind of close during that I don't know, two

2023
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 2: months start to the season. But also, Chris Ballot I'm

2024
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 2: talking about you said that four teams don't lose their

2025
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,759
Speaker 2: last seven games of the year. So it's very interesting

2026
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 2: to see how they kind of come out of all

2027
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 2: of this and where they go from here, because it

2028
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 2: does feel like the ross was kind of stagnant. You

2029
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 2: can make some changes, but ultimately, I don't know if

2030
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 2: there's gonna be big enough changes to see tangible result

2031
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 2: or anything different come twenty twenty six.

2032
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 3: Well, isn't that another fascinating decision now with Ballard coming

2033
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 3: back that now you have a guy like Quentin Nelson

2034
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 3: and Jonathan Taylor are both entering the finding years of

2035
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 3: the contract. Isn't that gonna mean that he's making some

2036
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 3: long term financial decisions for the Colts once again. So

2037
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 3: not only are you probably figuring out Daniel Jones's situation,

2038
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 3: now you're looking at Jonathan Taylor and Quentin Nelson on

2039
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 3: a guy that's entering a tenth season that is still

2040
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 3: up in the air as far as how much longer

2041
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 3: he's gonna stay here.

2042
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a very good point, Mark, and

2043
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a really complicated point and it gets

2044
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: a little bit more into I don't know if I

2045
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: want to get into like a Sauce Gardner you know

2046
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: trade whatever rewind today. But that's where if I'm Carly

2047
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: or say Gordon, I think I maybe would have inserted

2048
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 1: myself a little bit more there. You know, making the

2049
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: sauce Gardener trade is not just acquiring a twenty five

2050
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: year old cornerback on a very reasonable contract who you know,

2051
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: plays a premium position and has been an All Pro

2052
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 1: in this league. There are there were lots of tentacles

2053
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 1: to that trade that were not just Sauce Gardner to

2054
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: the player, I e.

2055
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 2: Your quarterback met word tentacles the.

2056
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: Quarterback Commendment passed twenty twenty six. Not just Daniel Jones

2057
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: for one year and James, I know that's something you've

2058
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: brought up a lot, Daniel Jones in the long term.

2059
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 1: That was something Ballard committed to on Thursday.

2060
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Ballard saying that he is their long term

2061
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 2: answer is I think, quite honestly, a bit delusional. That's

2062
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 2: the second most wild thing he said, aside from the

2063
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 2: Juju shimmer thing.

2064
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's delusional. But I shrugged my shoulders to say,

2065
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: that's what happens when you make the Gardener trade, right.

2066
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 2: No, I agree, but I just wanted to basically push

2067
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 2: back on that because I think he wants to instill

2068
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,919
Speaker 2: that confidence into the franchise, into the team, and obviously

2069
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 2: anybody wants to find stability when it comes to the

2070
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 2: most important position in football. But I just can't get

2071
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 2: with the idea that a guy who's only played one

2072
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 2: full season through his first seven I believe, will suddenly

2073
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,799
Speaker 2: be healthy enough, not good enough. I think Daniel Jones

2074
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 2: proved he was a good player in Shane Stikeen's offense,

2075
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 2: but can you hold up for a full season. I'm

2076
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 2: not banking on that because you just haven't done it,

2077
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 2: and we have over a half decade of a sample

2078
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 2: size to basis off of.

2079
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark, going back to that point that you made

2080
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, you know there is an element

2081
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 1: of like, you have to let these people do their

2082
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 1: jobs because you're employing them. But again, you're asking Chris

2083
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: Bauer to make financial calls on pretty much everybody from

2084
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: the organization. I mean, yes, everybody, but he is either

2085
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: drafted or signed and or re signed.

2086
01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 3: You know, these are all his guys that are on

2087
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 3: the side of the stadium, right and like the center pieces,

2088
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,640
Speaker 3: Piller plays pillar pieces that he has had an affinity

2089
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 3: for to some degree, you know, throughout his nine years.

2090
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: And you know he didn't take that question at all.

2091
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 1: You know, I try to toss it to him late

2092
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 1: in the presser of you know, given no first round pick,

2093
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,639
Speaker 1: given the cap commitments that are likely to be going

2094
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones and Alex Pearce, will you part ways

2095
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: with any veterans because again, the Michael Pittman junior capet

2096
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 1: of twenty nine million, there's no chance he's playing on

2097
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty six, at least is my thought there.

2098
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:36,639
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Maybe you just snap your fingers

2099
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: and give it a shimmer.

2100
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 9: The number one question she asked me, do you still

2101
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 9: have your juju or shimmer to do this?

2102
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 3: I would have said, what are you going to do

2103
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 3: with Quentin Nelson and Jonathan Taylor and then Daniel Jones

2104
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,679
Speaker 3: and all these other financial decisions? My number one.

2105
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 1: Next time Maddie and I are on the couch, you know,

2106
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 1: we're kind of getting into the well nitty gritty of

2107
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: a big combo.

2108
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 3: Was you shook your body all of a sudden it was?

2109
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 3: I know what you were describing there.

2110
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 2: For a second. Oh man, you.

2111
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 1: Guys can just show some maturation for a second. No

2112
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 1: us man, you guys are laughing at me like I'm

2113
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 1: jetting over there making a comment.

2114
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 3: Dude on the couch and then way back tomorrow.

2115
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 2: By the way, for those that events, I don't try

2116
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 2: to change the subject.

2117
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: Nah, go ahead, madd and I are on the couch.

2118
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 2: Boy, I could feel the lights lowering when you said that,

2119
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 2: Mark sett in the movie The.

2120
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 1: Lights are rising, man, the sun is out. We actually

2121
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 1: people can see you in studio, James Boyd. Finally on

2122
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: this camp.

2123
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 2: Not just teaving eyes people.

2124
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we're having you know whatever, an intense conversation,

2125
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 1: financial related, parenting related, can I squeeze in one more

2126
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 1: golf trip related? Maybe I'll ask you know you still

2127
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 1: have the juju the shimmer?

2128
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 3: Oh boy, that'll house lights are coming up real.

2129
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 1: Quick on that album You're Mad Man. Every time I

2130
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 1: hear it, I just think it's more than the first time.

2131
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 3: And the volunteer volunteered that.

2132
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm like you need to be like,

2133
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm twisted in the wrong direction before you release that information.

2134
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm all for candor, but you know what, it's a

2135
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 1: little bit scarier if I'm a cult fan the fact

2136
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 1: that I heard that. But hey, and I mean this

2137
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:24,879
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, And again, maybe it's a bigger conversation

2138
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 1: for a different day.

2139
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 3: When you've got NFL immunity. I guess you can say

2140
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 3: whatever you want. You're getting brought back anyway, touche.

2141
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:32,560
Speaker 1: But as we start to get into more of the

2142
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 1: carly Ers Gordon era, I'm looking at a couple of

2143
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: things right now that are giving me pause. One the

2144
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 1: unquestioned green lighting of the sauce gardener trade without looking

2145
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: at all the tentacles. She said, no hesitation on that.

2146
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 1: And then now and then two the first question, the

2147
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: top question. You ask your general manager with one of

2148
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Speaker 1: the most failing resumes we've seen in the NFL through

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Speaker 1: nine years, you ask him about juju and shimmer, and

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Speaker 1: I'll say the analogy that I mentioned in the seven

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Speaker 1: o'clock hour, James, that's a question that Pittsburgh, the Rooney

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Speaker 1: family asked Mike Tomlin today. That's, frankly a question you

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Speaker 1: ask an aging coach. Yeah, you know, five years down

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01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 1: the road maybe Herb Simon asked that of Rick Carlisle.

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01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 1: The Duke AD asked that of coach k The North

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01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: Carolina Ad asked that of Roy Williams. You know, accomplished individuals. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want to have the belief the confidence to do this.

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Speaker 1: That I mean, if you're questioning Chris Ballard's confidence, then

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Speaker 1: you should probably be questioning everything, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, why not question everything? What you put forth

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01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 2: has not been satisfactory or at least not enough for

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Speaker 2: this fan base. Now for the ownership, they stuck with

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01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 2: him for another year. Granted he is going into the

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01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 2: final year of his contract for the first time and

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Speaker 2: his tenure without an extension, so perhaps that confidence will

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Speaker 2: be reevaluated after the season after twenty twenty six. But boy,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that was not again words of encouragement

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Speaker 2: for this fan base.

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Speaker 3: But then you also can't send him into the final

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Speaker 3: year of his contract when you have major financial decisions

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Speaker 3: like Nelson and Taylor and Daniel Jones, and you want this,

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01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 3: you know, lame duck GM to all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: make these financial decisions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're good.

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Speaker 1: Point Mark yeah, but yeah, he's I mean, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: He's earned the right to be a lame duck GM, right,

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Speaker 1: but he's earned the right to be fired. I guess

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Speaker 1: let's start there. But if you have to go next

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Speaker 1: on the list, then he's earned the right to be

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01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not I mean, no, you can't give

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Speaker 1: the man an.

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Speaker 3: Extension, right, but then so then, but you're alive.

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Speaker 1: Giving the man a contract extension is like me asking

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Speaker 1: you two to grow up.

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Speaker 3: Well, he said in the past he doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: hamstring the organization. But if he's entering his final year

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01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 3: as GM and he's making financial decisions that are long

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01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 3: term past this twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven upcoming season,

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Speaker 3: aren't you technically hamstringing the organization.

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Speaker 2: I do think he hamstrung the organization.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Granted, at the time, Daniel Jones was healthy, Sauce Gartner

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01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 2: obviously was healthy. These were things that he could not

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Speaker 2: have really predicted. But now that we see the totality

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Speaker 2: of the decision, the effects of the injuries, and where

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Speaker 2: you all stand going into twenty twenty six or really

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Speaker 2: just at the end of twenty twenty five, Yes, that

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Speaker 2: the franchise has been hamstrung, and I don't appreciate Kevin

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Speaker 2: taking shot to us. Mark. We're good students.

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01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 1: Asking for simple maturation from Mark Dyton, who is forty

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Speaker 1: years old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are talking about I'm very mature.

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01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I didn't wish ill on Aaron Rodgers last night? Whatsoever?

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Speaker 1: I heard you chanting blue tent when Rodgers was on

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01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: the good ay yahuasca? Did the blue tent blow over

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01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 1: last night? Or is that a different game? I saw?

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Speaker 1: Was that Eagles forty nine ers?

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Speaker 4: I saw?

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Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of things over Philadelphia.

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01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 1: Boy, are we done with the coaching carousel?

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01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 3: Tomlin Sirianni Louis dar from all accounts of Lafleura is

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01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 3: working on a contract extension. And from the little bit

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Speaker 3: of Milwaukee and Wisconsin radio, I listened to fans are ticked.

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01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:17,639
Speaker 1: Just stop right there. Say that again.

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01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 3: Listening to Milwaukee and Wisconsin sports radio.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's real hate. That's real hate. I

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Speaker 1: will say this though, that's.

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Speaker 3: Another drink of Scotch La listen to that.

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Speaker 2: That's speaking of Green battles. I think it's crazy that

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01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 2: their president his name is ed Policy. What a last

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01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 2: name to be making some decisions.

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Speaker 1: Is that real?

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01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 2: Yes, the president of the Greenmant Packers, his name is

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01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 2: Ed Policy. He's the guy who decides if Matt Lafleur

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01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 2: gets an extension or not. I thought it was a

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01:50:50,880 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 2: typo at first, but no Ed Policy. So I don't know.

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01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if the Colts GM last name was Policy,

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01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 2: Chris Policy.

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01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: Honestly, it sounds like a principal at like an elementary

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01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 1: school in a movie. You know, mister Policy is coming

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01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 1: out of the hall way all of a sudden, you

2233
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 1: just start freaking out over there. I thought, Mario Cristi Ball,

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01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: it's really insightful comments not only on for Nana Mendoza

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01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 1: but also the Indian of the defense. We'll get to

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01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 1: that maybe coming up here at nine thirty as well. Again,

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01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 1: that line starting to climb a little bit. Eight and

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01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 1: a half. Last I saw, did you check any of

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01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 1: the secondary ticket market if it's moved it all?

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Speaker 2: I did not, maybe because I just know I'm too

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01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 2: broke to really make that decision. I think he is

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01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 2: going I have to we gotta see him on tomorrow.

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01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, let's give him the week off. Yeah, No,

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01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 1: I think he's going Miami's for those unfamiliar.

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01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he's a Miami fraudulent grad because

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01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,679
Speaker 2: I didn't see any Miami gear pretty much all season

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01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 2: until they were into the Coasotball playoff and at one

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01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 2: a few games. So we can ask him about that tomorrow.

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01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of, you know, fake at the funk.

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Speaker 1: There thirty two fifty five on Vivid seats for one ticket,

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Speaker 1: oon ticket. As you said, section three h five, shout

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01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 1: out to Miami end zone. Yeah, exactly, end zone view

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01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: here three thousand dollars two hundred and fifty five.

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01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 2: So when you went to the National Championship last year,

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Speaker 2: granted obviously Notre Dame didn't win, but what was the

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Speaker 2: best part about the experience? Was it cool to actually

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Speaker 2: be there in person?

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01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 8: It?

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01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've started to Yeah, it took me

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Speaker 1: about nine months to get over it. But I would

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Speaker 1: say it's just kind of waking up in that city

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01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: and the build up until kickoff.

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01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you know how up and early are you are?

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01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,639
Speaker 2: You like getting up, We're up at seven, I'm getting breakfast,

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01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 2: We're out all day.

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Speaker 1: I did the show from the airbnb. Oh nice, oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I did the show Monday.

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Speaker 2: You loved that big thing through the airport, like the radio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I always get a lot of the

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Speaker 1: common I always get a lot of looks with that.

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01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, you're going to put hey tsa check him.

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01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: I know. But I would say it's that and obviously

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01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: the game itself. I mean, certainly Notre Dame got you know,

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01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 1: the second and third quarter was ugly, but that opening

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01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 1: drive and then you know, honestly at the end, I

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01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 1: mean I know a lot of people fell asleep, but

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01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean they were one third down stop away from

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01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 1: getting the ball back. Yeah, And so you know, just

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01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 1: being in that environment and you know it.

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Speaker 10: Was something that also struck was this solo by the way,

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01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 10: or was this yeah yeah, yeah nice. Something that struck

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01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 10: me too is you know, I haven't been in too

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01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 10: many because I like went to the Notre Dame you

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01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 10: know press conference.

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Speaker 1: Ever, I haven't been in too many emotional press conference

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01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 1: locker room settings in a while.

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01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 2: Like oh boy, you're not lying there.

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01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: And I get that pro sports maybe doesn't have as

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01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:51,600
Speaker 1: much of it as college or certainly high school. Yeah,

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01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 1: but like that Pacers game seven locker room, by all accounts,

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01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 1: sounded relatively aminal.

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01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 2: And we were on the other end of that in

2293
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 2: Game six where it was yo relation and all that.

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01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 1: So I thought that was, you know, to watch Jack Kaiser,

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01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: for example, the mister football here play at Notre Dame

2296
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 1: for six years and watch him, I mean, just his bawling.

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01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's you know. Then I'm watching

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01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,760
Speaker 1: Jack Kaiser out there on the field, you know, week

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01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:17,600
Speaker 1: seventeen for the Jags pregame and thinking of myself, like

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01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 1: will he have one of those moments in the NFL?

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01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 1: Or is that just a college thing? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: because you can go Monday night, You're going to see that. Yeah,

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01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean watch true. I mean one of the I

2304
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 1: thought the coolest sights when the Fiesta Bowl was watching

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01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: Trinidad Chamblis and Carson Beck's emotion in the final few

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01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 1: minutes in post game.

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Speaker 2: Do you think part of that is just the finality

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01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 2: of knowing you have to kind of grow up? I

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01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 2: think that's part of like why college is Bobby love

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01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 2: it because the.

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01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: Tree is still there, that's true. But I felt that

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01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 1: it's starting to lessen in the Portal era, in the

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01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 1: nil era, But I do think there's a little bit

2314
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: of an element of like, you know, you are literally

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01:54:58,400 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: living with some of these individuals.

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01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 2: That's what I'm say.

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01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 1: I didn't it like I think Banana Medols that lives

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01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 1: as Charlie Becker.

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01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think back to my college days.

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01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was not living with Ala Pierce.

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01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 2: No no. But granted, Daniel Jones also had his college

2322
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 2: roommates make a cast for him or whatever. So my

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01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 2: point is, granted I didn't play college athletics, didn't play

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01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 2: even at a high level high school, whatever the point is.

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01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 2: But my point is when you have those shared experiences

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01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 2: and you wake up every day for a few years

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01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 2: and your best friends are literally down the street or

2328
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 2: literally in the same apartment as you, I think that's

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01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 2: just a hard ending right there. And you want to

2330
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 2: go out on a high note and on a positive note,

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01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 2: and they have a chance to do that. Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, Mark Dyton, let's check it down, all right. That's

2333
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 1: three in a row for the Pacers last night, ninety

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01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 1: eight ninety six. It was their first win without scoring

2335
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 1: at least one hundred points since November twenty twenty two.

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01:55:55,680 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam a running floater. Maybe not a running floater,

2337
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 1: but a floater in the lane that was the game

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01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 1: winner ninety eight ninety six. After the game, Joe Missoula

2339
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 1: had a press conference that lasted forty three seconds. He

2340
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:16,879
Speaker 1: was asked six questions and his response was two words

2341
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: to every single question in regards to how Pascal Siakam

2342
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 1: got the ball, Joe, give yourself a chance to win.

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01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 4: I guess to see the last coalple of sessions.

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01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 6: A legal screensay, a legal screen, illegal screen, a legal screen?

2345
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 3: What felt hard to get you guys behind? And then

2346
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 3: how are you able to get hi?

2347
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 6: A legal screen?

2348
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:48,280
Speaker 4: What?

2349
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 5: What do you want people to do?

2350
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 6: Leegal screen?

2351
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 4: Would like to anything.

2352
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 6: Legal screw.

2353
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 1: For those that did not watch the final play, James

2354
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 1: Boyd your opinion of Pascal Siakam's legality on the screen.

2355
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 2: Oh, it definitely wasn't legal. But we can go back

2356
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 2: to a lot of different plays in a lot of

2357
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 2: different games and say, here is a moving screen. I

2358
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 2: think pretty much every screen Draymond Green, except for Stephan

2359
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 2: curR during their tenure together, has been illegal. But no

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01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 2: crying baby buckets is what matters.

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01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: Mark Rick Carlisle reaction from this morning after I tried

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Speaker 1: to lead him down the Joe Missoula road.

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Speaker 4: He'll get over it. No disrespect to rats, I forgot that.

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Speaker 1: Their disrespect around.

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01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 2: What was the what screwing that was with Helts.

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Speaker 1: Here's matth the officials and the Colts game.

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Speaker 2: That was all that was the same day, he was like, Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, Adam can get me. Roger can't get me. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 4: That Adam could get me by that, but Goodell can't.

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Speaker 4: He can't. He can't get he can't touch me.

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01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 2: We need more solidarity across boards, like, for example, since

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01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 2: Joe Missoula can't criticize the officials last night, you need

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01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 2: to phone in. He should just like dial up Mike

2375
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 2: Rabel and hold his phone up on speakerphone and left

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01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 2: those guys just tremendous.

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Speaker 1: I thought Rick Carlisle was excellent earlier today. You can

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Speaker 1: check that out on the podcast page.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate the question, but I acknowledge the question.

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01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 2: I can't say I appreciate the question, but I acknowledged.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: North of the Border tonight, speaking of Peacock last night

2383
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 1: for the Pacer, speaking of Robbi Hummell once again tonight,

2384
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 1: it'll be Peacock and it'll be Robbie Hummel on the

2385
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 1: call that is Indiana. It's a seven o'clock tip. You

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01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 1: can hear that over on our sister station, WBC, James Boyd.

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01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: The Hoosiers need it. It's January thirteenth. I don't overreact,

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01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 1: but at some point you got to have substance in

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01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 1: the resume, and this resume so far it lacks substance

2390
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 1: to the ho More time. That was a little it

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01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:05,680
Speaker 1: lacks substance the Indiana resume. They need one tonight.

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01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 2: So you got a little like scientific y on me

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01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 2: for a second there. I was like, substance, Well, that's

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01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 2: probably true. I do think this will be a huge

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01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 2: one tonight considering what Michigan State is, not just historically,

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01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 2: but what they've been this season. And you need a

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Speaker 2: little more on that resume to your point, Kevin, and

2398
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:23,080
Speaker 2: also I think you kind of want to make your

2399
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 2: guys believe that you can win these types of games.

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01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 2: That hasn't happened just yet. Granted you are in the

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01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:30,320
Speaker 2: first year with Darren Derees, but yeah, this would be

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01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 2: a big confidence booster, especially in the hostile environment.

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01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Five and a half, six and a half. I

2404
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: think that line kind of hovered a little bit there.

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01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 1: As an underdog Indiana against fourteen and two Michigan State

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01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 1: tonight again that is seven o'clock. Brandon Smith is your

2407
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 1: Big Ten player of the week for a second straight week.

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01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 1: They have Iowa tomorrow night. That is a six to

2409
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 1: thirty tip from Hinkle Butler after their week off travels down.

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01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 1: I have seventy four to take on the Muskies. That

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01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 1: is six thirty. I believe that'll be on FuGO tomorrow

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01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 1: as we'll have a pacer game raptors here on the fan.

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Speaker 4: It was time to, you know, get out of there.

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Speaker 1: That was in regards to I asked him what he

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Speaker 1: does when he gets ejected? Where does he where does

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Speaker 1: he go? Where does he watch the game? I appreciated

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Speaker 1: his entertaining of that question. He actually gave us a

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Speaker 1: little bit there.

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Speaker 3: He as that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. He did. Monday Night football, every want

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Speaker 1: to call it that. Last night it was the Texans

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Speaker 1: all over Mars Aaron Rodgers thirty two sixth the final

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02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 1: score and that one. The Texans defense looks menacing. We

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Speaker 1: asked earlier, who is the AFC team you least trust

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Speaker 1: left in the Field, Buffalo, Denver that matchup, Houston, New

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02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 1: England the other matchup. Several people have brought up Buffalo

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Speaker 1: with the injuries. I don't deny that, but guys, do

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Speaker 1: they not have the best quarterback in the best running

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Speaker 1: back left in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: That's why I would roll with Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: I've never done that.

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02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:00,080
Speaker 2: Probably not gonna pick against Josh Allen, especially considering that

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02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:04,280
Speaker 2: no other Juggernaut quarterback is left in the playoffs in

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Speaker 2: the AFC.

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Speaker 3: They're the veterans in there that are left. Everybod else

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02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 3: is kind of the young guns.

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Speaker 1: The only final four team left from last year. Indeed, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: granted those injuries are there, we'll see anything lingering on

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02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin all right. On the other side,

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Speaker 1: Mario Cristobald, the head coach of the Hurricanes. He's got

2441
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Speaker 1: plenty of history with the Menoza family. He had some

2442
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Speaker 1: comments on Fernando. We'll play that for you.

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Speaker 4: Next.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to my college roommate Ryan Dorsey. He got

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Speaker 1: married just before Christmas and this was the song him

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Speaker 1: and his wife came out to. Oh nice, how about that?

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Speaker 1: With that, you better hope and pray that she loves

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Speaker 1: you a lot. Fernando Abba action. Right there, boy, Cluster

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Speaker 1: truck tasting delicious day. How about Taylor tannebal I'm saying

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Speaker 1: the one thing she misses in Indie the most is clustershuck.

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Speaker 2: We sure she wasn't watching the broadcast on that on

2452
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 2: that hat of yours, Kevin.

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02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 1: That woman lives in Connecticut right now ESPN Star, and

2454
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:09,480
Speaker 1: she was all about it. Shout out the cluster truck,

2455
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Speaker 1: big fan, that is your promo code, five dollars off.

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Speaker 1: We got a double check with Evan Cheryl. H if

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Speaker 1: that tailgate special will be there for Monday night you're

2458
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 1: watching the IU game, No better way. Two large pizzas,

2459
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Speaker 1: two pounds of chicken strips twenty nine ninety nine excellent,

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Speaker 1: big fan, that is your promo code right there at cluster.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only downside is you don't get the food hand

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Speaker 2: deliver perhaps by Evan Cheryl, So you don't get the

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Speaker 2: whiff of the best money man Anian hell Mark.

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Speaker 1: We got to get him up in studio here at

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Speaker 1: some point, so.

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Speaker 3: I told him, I said, we're still we're still cleaning

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Speaker 3: up out here. We want to look respectable for Evan. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can't be smalling that good and he comes into

2470
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Speaker 3: like stuff.

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Speaker 2: All over the place.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest. Yes day it hit me. I went

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Speaker 1: home and I saw what Nelly was wearing eight week

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02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,720
Speaker 1: old Nelly versus what I was wearing. I mean, it

2475
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 1: was pathetic how I dressed on this Monday morning versus

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02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean Nelly looked beautiful. Real clue.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I thought it was gonna be like kind

2478
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Speaker 2: of like the oppositely. I was a little confused.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what does he wear? No, Matt, she had

2480
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Speaker 1: her two month check up, and yeah, Maddie had, you know,

2481
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 1: put her in like real clothes. Maddy got a suited

2482
02:03:08,840 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 1: in boontie, let's go man. My under armour logo, my

2483
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:14,000
Speaker 1: sweat sweatpants was half ripped.

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02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 2: And I just looked like him, did you have like

2485
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 2: a little tier tier in the eye? Like, boy, that

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02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 2: one's mine.

2487
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:23,360
Speaker 1: There was maybe a tad bit of emotion for me there.

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02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 2: I love that.

2489
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:28,240
Speaker 1: Uh we will have Trent Green, We're thinking potentially tomorrow.

2490
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 1: Mark Is that right correct? So we'll chat with him.

2491
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,480
Speaker 1: The former IU quarterback speeding of VYU quarterbacks, Mario Crystabal,

2492
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:39,959
Speaker 1: How about this James Boyd same high schools for Nando Mendozo. Wow,

2493
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:44,960
Speaker 1: Christopher Columbus High we had Mendoza's coach on. Was that

2494
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 1: just before the Heisman we had him on.

2495
02:03:46,920 --> 02:03:48,680
Speaker 2: I believe so because he told us he was going,

2496
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:50,800
Speaker 2: he was going to be there for he was there

2497
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:51,839
Speaker 2: for the Heisman ceremonia.

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02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:55,680
Speaker 1: So I believe Mendoza's father was an offensive lineman, and

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Speaker 1: I believe Mario Cristobal was also an offensive lineman there

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02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 1: at Chrisopher Columbus High School. But here was the Miami

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02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:05,200
Speaker 1: head coach yesterday describing a quarterback. If I'm not mistaken,

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02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 1: I think he didn't well. I guess he was at

2503
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:08,920
Speaker 1: Oregon probably when he came out of high school. But

2504
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 1: he pursued him in the portal, and now he'll face

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Speaker 1: him Monday night.

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Speaker 8: I think he combines everything that you would want in

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02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:19,839
Speaker 8: an elite quarterback. He is He's ahead of the defense

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02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 8: all the time. He's two steps ahead. He understands the

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02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:29,400
Speaker 8: back end the front. He's extremely accurate, poised. He can

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Speaker 8: make you pay with his feet, he can make you

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02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 8: pay with his arm. He understands protections really well. He

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Speaker 8: anticipates like no other. He really has distinguished himself as

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Speaker 8: the best football player in the country this year. And

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Speaker 8: it's not by accident, a lot of reps, a lot

2515
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Speaker 8: of hard work, a guy that has been a complete

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Speaker 8: difference maker for their program.

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Speaker 1: Greg McElroy said the other night, James, he's a graduate

2518
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Speaker 1: level decision maker.

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Speaker 2: Not I mean that fits. I think, doesn't he have

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02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,000
Speaker 2: like a graduate level degree as well? And he's a

2521
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:06,680
Speaker 2: business dude, but yeah, I mean jokes aside, he's a thinker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 1: And so from a Miami standpoint, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much they can do schematically. I do think one question,

2525
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:15,520
Speaker 1: and again this is a different question I think Indiana

2526
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Speaker 1: has had to face so far. I do think Miami

2527
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Speaker 1: just has got some individual dudes and a chem Azador

2528
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 1: and Ruben Bain. We just talked about with Taylor Tannebaum

2529
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Speaker 1: last hour. I thought the stat she brought up was

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Speaker 1: really interesting. This will be the highest pressure rate Indiana's

2531
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Speaker 1: faced all year. And if you look at the one

2532
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Speaker 1: game that they had their highest pressure rate, it was

2533
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Speaker 1: Ohio State and that was probably the I would say

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Speaker 1: it's probably the worst offensive game of the season, right, Yeah,

2535
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 1: thirteen total points, only thirteen went by three. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: you know, again, can Miami do any of that. But

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Speaker 1: you know, again, stopping the run is another thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just the EYU balance to them is you know,

2539
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Speaker 1: certainly one of their greatest trademarks.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm very excited for his matchup, just because again

2541
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 2: I think it'll come down to can you limit the

2542
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:11,680
Speaker 2: explosive plays that Miami has, because again, when I look

2543
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:14,760
Speaker 2: at like on paper and really on tape as well,

2544
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Speaker 2: I don't see this as a game where Indiana can

2545
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 2: really lose unless something crazy happens. You have the young

2546
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 2: characteristic turnovers as a strip sack, yeah, something like that.

2547
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:28,480
Speaker 2: So if you can avoid those types of even opportunities

2548
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 2: for them to make those plays, then I think if

2549
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 2: you force them to kind of beat you straight up,

2550
02:06:32,160 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 2: they probably can't do it. I mean, I don't expect

2551
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:38,400
Speaker 2: Miami to put together ten to twelve play drives right

2552
02:06:38,440 --> 02:06:40,200
Speaker 2: down there and score over and over again. I don't

2553
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Speaker 2: expect them to quite honestly, have a lot of offensive

2554
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,160
Speaker 2: success if they don't have a short field every now

2555
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:47,640
Speaker 2: and then, if they don't force them three and outs

2556
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 2: and things like that. So we'll see how it goes.

2557
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Speaker 2: From that standpoint. I do think I don't want to

2558
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Speaker 2: overlook what Miami's defensive line has done to other quarterbacks

2559
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Speaker 2: throughout this run. But man, I just feel like I

2560
02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 2: use in a different way class when it comes to

2561
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Speaker 2: their discipline, how they play, the violence, they played with

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Speaker 2: them both sides of the ball, So it'll be fun.

2563
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good point you make about

2564
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 1: Miami driving, you know, the actual ten to eleven play drives.

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Speaker 1: First off, I don't know if Miami's disciplined enough to

2566
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 1: do that too many times. I mean, they had so

2567
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 1: many penalties against Old Miss, But they do have some

2568
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Speaker 1: guys offensively that can turn four into forty. I mean Malchai,

2569
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:29,280
Speaker 1: Toni Mark. I love their running back Fletcher. I think

2570
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Speaker 1: he's a really good player. And you know, again Taylor

2571
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:33,920
Speaker 1: brought up you know, Marion and Daniels, two of the

2572
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 1: other whiteouts for those that watched a Notre Dame game

2573
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 1: earlier this year. Daniels had that incredible one handed catch

2574
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:41,160
Speaker 1: they're late in the first half, a huge play right

2575
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:44,200
Speaker 1: before halftime. So I do think Miami's got some individual

2576
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 1: athletes that are just frankly different. And so how well

2577
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 1: getting Indiana stop that Mark? So Roger Goodell was really

2578
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:54,480
Speaker 1: in Northwest Indiana. Is this a thing?

2579
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 3: That's what they tell me. That's the reports I was

2580
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 3: reading ahead of the game on Saturday night and stuff

2581
02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,200
Speaker 3: that they said he was in attendance for the Bears

2582
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:07,720
Speaker 3: and Packers game, but ahead time he was hanging out

2583
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 3: with owner George McCaskey and president Kevin Warren and whatnot.

2584
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 3: And they're surveying future site possibilities for the Chicago Bears,

2585
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,160
Speaker 3: including the Arlington Heights property, which they already own, but

2586
02:08:19,320 --> 02:08:21,440
Speaker 3: a couple in northwest Indiana.

2587
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:22,080
Speaker 1: Interesting.

2588
02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm look at it here. This is legitimate. It's

2589
02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:26,600
Speaker 2: from a sports business journal. Yeah, I would love to

2590
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:27,200
Speaker 2: know where.

2591
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I've made my Hobart Brickey jokes, and

2592
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:33,880
Speaker 1: can you put a football field on fair Oaks Farm Mark?

2593
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: You imagine that they probably have enough acreage to do that.

2594
02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 1: Imagine the tailgating with those milks.

2595
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:40,560
Speaker 2: He says, here two sites in northwest Indiana. So you

2596
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 2: had to pick her two? Where you picking Brickey ball

2597
02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:44,200
Speaker 2: and the Steelyard.

2598
02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:45,560
Speaker 1: Oh the Steelyard.

2599
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Gary SouthShore Realcat's baby. I would

2600
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:50,400
Speaker 2: love that ye had some great wings on game day.

2601
02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 2: I missed those vouchers.

2602
02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean where would you go, Mark, I mean right

2603
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 1: off sixty five, right off forty one. I'm trying to think.

2604
02:08:56,920 --> 02:08:58,400
Speaker 3: Of, like, yeah, you got to think right around a

2605
02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:01,320
Speaker 3: Garamt something like that. You're right still the artery.

2606
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you want to stay in like what

2607
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 2: I would consider Chicago plus area.

2608
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, hometown. Yeah, so this is a thing like this

2609
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 1: might happen.

2610
02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:17,600
Speaker 2: Don't tell it to the people back in Chicago or.

2611
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:19,760
Speaker 1: Is this just leverage? I mean the fact that Godell's

2612
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 1: boots on the grounds A little different.

2613
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:25,120
Speaker 3: Well, the Bears sent out a letter to season ticket holders,

2614
02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:28,520
Speaker 3: and one of the questions was, our vision remains clear

2615
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 3: to build a world class stadium worthy of our world

2616
02:09:30,440 --> 02:09:33,400
Speaker 3: class fans. When that reflects the future we're building together.

2617
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. We have critically expanded our shirt critically

2618
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 3: to value opportunities throughout the wider Chicagoland area, including northwest Indiana.

2619
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:46,360
Speaker 3: So that's an official Bears letter to season ticket holders. M.

2620
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:52,560
Speaker 1: Chris on the text line is the double jacket coming

2621
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:54,840
Speaker 1: out Monday night? Where did Notre Dame fans sit on

2622
02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 1: eye you winning a title? I don't know who would

2623
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:01,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame want to see lose Miami, who they have

2624
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:03,400
Speaker 1: the history with and they lost their Week one, or

2625
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:06,840
Speaker 1: the team that has been a little brother in the

2626
02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 1: state of Indiana for so long and now has resources.

2627
02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:12,320
Speaker 2: I would think it's probably Indiana.

2628
02:10:12,640 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 1: They'd rather see Indiana lose.

2629
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 2: I would think so. But granted, I'm also I guess

2630
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 2: of the younger crowd, So I think that new hate

2631
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:21,240
Speaker 2: probably trump's the old hate in this regard.

2632
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say Generation above us is probably on

2633
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:24,120
Speaker 1: the Miami side of it.

2634
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also think that we're in like a

2635
02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 2: new era period when it comes to the colleg football

2636
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 2: playoff nil and stuff like that. So from that standpoint,

2637
02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:35,440
Speaker 2: I know that Notre Dame has won in the past,

2638
02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:38,560
Speaker 2: but I mean, if Indiana is able to capture what

2639
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:41,040
Speaker 2: is alluded you in your last couple of trips in

2640
02:10:41,120 --> 02:10:44,080
Speaker 2: national championship game, that would really really stink.

2641
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 1: Mark JD in Sorry, James, JD on the text line,

2642
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:50,720
Speaker 1: wanted to ask about Carli Ersa's Gordon's comments. I believe

2643
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 1: this is in regards to your question, James, where she

2644
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 1: referenced I need to stay in my lane. Was that

2645
02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:59,960
Speaker 1: in regards to her opinion on Daniel Jones.

2646
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was actually a reference she made twice,

2647
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:08,400
Speaker 2: first regarding Anthony Richardson in his future with the franchise

2648
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 2: and Daniel Jones to a degree, so she seemed to

2649
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 2: want to step back from the more football decisions. But

2650
02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:20,880
Speaker 2: I do think as someone who gets the final say,

2651
02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:23,520
Speaker 2: you have to make some decisions when it comes to

2652
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:25,480
Speaker 2: your personnel. I mean, she was the one that green

2653
02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:28,960
Speaker 2: lighted the Sauce Gardner trade, and you could argue that

2654
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:31,560
Speaker 2: I want to stay in my lane. But yeah, until

2655
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:34,560
Speaker 2: someone wants to do something of that magnitude, Yeah, I.

2656
02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:38,840
Speaker 1: Mean, when it's got franchise altering ramifications, I'm feel free

2657
02:11:38,840 --> 02:11:41,360
Speaker 1: to step in. Yeah, I mean asking her to, you know,

2658
02:11:41,600 --> 02:11:43,920
Speaker 1: evaluate the thirty quarterbacks coming out this year.

2659
02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 2: And no that I do think she needs to be

2660
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:49,080
Speaker 2: and she will. I don't want to make it seem

2661
02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:52,000
Speaker 2: like I'm being condescending here, I'll take that back from

2662
02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:56,000
Speaker 2: that perspective. She's certainly very capable of making her own decisions,

2663
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:58,720
Speaker 2: but I assume that she will have a big say

2664
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:02,000
Speaker 2: in Daniel Jones being brought back, what the concert looks like,

2665
02:12:02,080 --> 02:12:04,480
Speaker 2: things like that. When it comes to just trying to

2666
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:05,920
Speaker 2: keep the continuity.

2667
02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:08,880
Speaker 1: There Jordan, how much decision to keep Ballad and Stichen

2668
02:12:09,040 --> 02:12:12,000
Speaker 1: was based on saving face as an owner? Oh? Boy, me,

2669
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:14,640
Speaker 1: is that? Do you guys think they.

2670
02:12:14,600 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 2: Were saving face and crediting?

2671
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 1: He adds this, Do you guys think they would have

2672
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:21,480
Speaker 1: been criticized in league circles for cleaning house first year owner?

2673
02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't think they would have been criticised. I mean,

2674
02:12:23,200 --> 02:12:25,320
Speaker 1: it's not like this is It's not like currently ers

2675
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:27,320
Speaker 1: Gordon was on Mars the last decade.

2676
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:31,680
Speaker 2: No, And I don't get the impression that she for

2677
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:34,000
Speaker 2: better or worse, quite frankly, and I think it's probably

2678
02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:37,640
Speaker 2: for the better. Cares about what other owners think of

2679
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:41,000
Speaker 2: what she's doing with her franchise, Like I don't want.

2680
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:44,600
Speaker 2: I get what she has talked about in the past

2681
02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:49,360
Speaker 2: of learning how the business works and learning how to

2682
02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:51,720
Speaker 2: operate a team, but you don't want to get too

2683
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 2: caught up in other processes from other franchises that you're

2684
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:58,240
Speaker 2: not convicted and confident in your.

2685
02:12:58,160 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 1: Own Yeah, and I yeah, I don't think. I guess

2686
02:13:04,120 --> 02:13:05,960
Speaker 1: i'd say this. I was a little concerned about Jim

2687
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:09,120
Speaker 1: Mersey wanting to believe his own comments, you know, the

2688
02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:11,800
Speaker 1: comments when Chris Boward was hired in January twenty seventeen.

2689
02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 1: We've hired the greatest resume in the twenty first century

2690
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:18,280
Speaker 1: of any GM And I'm paraphrasing there, but that's pretty

2691
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:20,920
Speaker 1: much what he said. I was worried that Jim Irsay

2692
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:24,720
Speaker 1: wanted that to come to fruition. That's why he hung

2693
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:25,520
Speaker 1: on for so long.

2694
02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2695
02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shane's asking if Notre Dame fans just like Indiana,

2696
02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:33,360
Speaker 1: I think they're jealous. Certainly I am.

2697
02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:37,400
Speaker 3: They're saying on the Message Awards, Kevin, let us know, well,

2698
02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:40,120
Speaker 3: Notre Dame big portal haul yesterday and hopefully a few

2699
02:13:40,120 --> 02:13:40,600
Speaker 3: more today.

2700
02:13:40,680 --> 02:13:42,960
Speaker 1: So Notre Dame has recovered. By the way, you see

2701
02:13:42,960 --> 02:13:44,320
Speaker 1: the Marcus Freeman video.

2702
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I couldn't. I couldn't make any sense.

2703
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:48,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you know what's crazy about that

2704
02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:52,480
Speaker 2: is pretty nonstory, right one. I had to really squint

2705
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:55,120
Speaker 2: to see where he was in the video because what

2706
02:13:55,240 --> 02:13:57,680
Speaker 2: we were told by this person who filed this report

2707
02:13:57,800 --> 02:13:58,200
Speaker 2: or whatever.

2708
02:13:58,280 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I was charge's drop for those that fault story.

2709
02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:05,560
Speaker 2: But I was, I don't know, assaulted whatever. That didn't

2710
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:09,160
Speaker 2: happen clearly, And I honestly think that when people do

2711
02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:11,280
Speaker 2: stuff like that, you should be able to just sue

2712
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:15,520
Speaker 2: them back for wasting everyone's time. And apparently he told

2713
02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:17,640
Speaker 2: the police right away like, oh, I recognized he.

2714
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:20,520
Speaker 1: Was who he was and which that really bothers me.

2715
02:14:20,840 --> 02:14:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that sickening. So I honestly think that

2716
02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:25,520
Speaker 2: you should be fine for doing stuff like that.

2717
02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:27,520
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman is trying to be a day and I'd

2718
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:30,480
Speaker 1: say this if it was Bury Odom, Kurt Signetti, Shane

2719
02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:33,760
Speaker 1: Styke and Rick Carlisle, Stephanie White, whoever, can we let

2720
02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:40,080
Speaker 1: these people be parents in public and not run over there?

2721
02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:44,800
Speaker 1: And they spend so many hours away from their family, Yeah,

2722
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:47,280
Speaker 1: when they are out in public trying to support their family,

2723
02:14:47,920 --> 02:14:48,840
Speaker 1: let's just be normal.

2724
02:14:49,880 --> 02:14:52,560
Speaker 2: Not possible. Apparently not possible at all.

2725
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:55,040
Speaker 1: A few more we'll get to and we'll round it out.

2726
02:14:55,200 --> 02:14:57,160
Speaker 1: Kevin bow and James Boyd, Mark Dyton here on a

2727
02:14:57,200 --> 02:15:02,600
Speaker 1: Tuesday up in the podcast, Rick Carlisle, Taylor Tannabomb really

2728
02:15:02,640 --> 02:15:05,880
Speaker 1: enjoyed both combos. Rick hit on a lot of different things,

2729
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:09,080
Speaker 1: from the thousandth win to Pascal Sia Coomes All Star

2730
02:15:09,200 --> 02:15:13,400
Speaker 1: candidacy is a really I think admiration frankly for Kurtzignetti,

2731
02:15:13,480 --> 02:15:16,960
Speaker 1: and I thought he got pretty retrospective, if you will,

2732
02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:20,400
Speaker 1: on the Coaching Philosophy thousand and win. A little bit

2733
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:23,120
Speaker 1: of the background stuff. So that's up in the podcast.

2734
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:26,760
Speaker 1: And Taylor tannabamb getting lead voice over at ACC Network,

2735
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:30,480
Speaker 1: she talked to the Miami Hurricanes. The other side of

2736
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:32,680
Speaker 1: the line continues to climb. Indiana an eight and a

2737
02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:37,480
Speaker 1: half point favorite coming up on Monday night. Do I

2738
02:15:37,480 --> 02:15:40,400
Speaker 1: see something about Tamika Catchings in my inbox? James early

2739
02:15:40,440 --> 02:15:40,880
Speaker 1: on the show.

2740
02:15:41,240 --> 02:15:47,080
Speaker 2: Yes, So this from Pacers Sports and Entertainment, Indiana Fever legend.

2741
02:15:47,120 --> 02:15:51,280
Speaker 2: Tamika Catchings reunites with the Pacer Sports Entertainment and a

2742
02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:54,680
Speaker 2: new role as an ambassador, So we'll be supporting the

2743
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:59,760
Speaker 2: company's business community and basketball activities. Probably not a bad

2744
02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:03,400
Speaker 2: for her to have, considering her resume here in Indiana.

2745
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:06,280
Speaker 2: Everyone else Tamika Catchings and I would argue she is

2746
02:16:07,240 --> 02:16:09,720
Speaker 2: poundful pound the greatest basketball player to ever represents the city.

2747
02:16:10,760 --> 02:16:13,839
Speaker 1: Did I come across Canaan Catchings now at Georgia?

2748
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:17,520
Speaker 2: I believe you are correct. Now I will say I

2749
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:20,440
Speaker 2: know nothing about that beyond him just being.

2750
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:23,680
Speaker 1: There, the nephew of Tamika Brownsburg, for those unfamiliar, was

2751
02:16:23,680 --> 02:16:26,760
Speaker 1: originally committed to Purdue and maybe he did he move

2752
02:16:26,840 --> 02:16:30,600
Speaker 1: in initially and then it was very weird timing BYU

2753
02:16:30,680 --> 02:16:32,400
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I'm seeing it right here is averaging

2754
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:34,039
Speaker 1: nine points a game at Georgia.

2755
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:37,840
Speaker 2: Shooting forty percent from the field twenty seven percent from.

2756
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:41,080
Speaker 1: Three twenty over South Carolina over the weekend. Mark. I

2757
02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:42,960
Speaker 1: know this is serious or not, but I brought up

2758
02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:45,160
Speaker 1: one of these spots in northwest Indiana for the Bears

2759
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:47,480
Speaker 1: to move to. I think Lost Marsh Golf Course is

2760
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:50,320
Speaker 1: one of the wilder, wilder golf courses in all of America.

2761
02:16:50,920 --> 02:16:52,720
Speaker 1: And I'm seeing here on the text line that RC

2762
02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:55,160
Speaker 1: send it a map of where they're looking, and he

2763
02:16:55,240 --> 02:16:57,360
Speaker 1: literally has it on the other side of the street

2764
02:16:57,400 --> 02:16:58,160
Speaker 1: from Los Marsh.

2765
02:16:58,480 --> 02:16:58,960
Speaker 2: Look of that.

2766
02:16:59,120 --> 02:16:59,760
Speaker 1: Do you know where that is?

2767
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:01,879
Speaker 3: By no, not off the top of my head.

2768
02:17:02,800 --> 02:17:09,360
Speaker 1: It's just east of ninety, like Wolf Lake is kind

2769
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:14,320
Speaker 1: of by there. Somebody also dried in will they just

2770
02:17:14,320 --> 02:17:16,240
Speaker 1: put it by the casinos.

2771
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:19,120
Speaker 3: And that could work too. There's casinos popping up all

2772
02:17:19,160 --> 02:17:20,960
Speaker 3: over the place in northwest in Indiana.

2773
02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:26,680
Speaker 1: But the Colts be mad about that.

2774
02:17:26,680 --> 02:17:28,720
Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. I don't know.

2775
02:17:30,360 --> 02:17:33,879
Speaker 3: I don't know because that fan that area is so Bears.

2776
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:36,440
Speaker 2: Heavy, right right. I know we had the guy the

2777
02:17:36,480 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 2: other week who said, like, oh, it's a lot of

2778
02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:40,920
Speaker 2: Colts fans up here. I don't doubt that, But like

2779
02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:45,000
Speaker 2: the ratio the percentages, I don't think it's all that

2780
02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:49,119
Speaker 2: high for Colts fans. No, I mean my interactions.

2781
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:52,400
Speaker 3: I mean living in that area when the Bears and

2782
02:17:52,400 --> 02:17:54,840
Speaker 3: Cults are on the same time, the Bears are game

2783
02:17:54,959 --> 02:17:56,800
Speaker 3: is on and the Colts game is usually blacked out,

2784
02:17:56,959 --> 02:18:00,000
Speaker 3: so right, that tells you what the dominant teams.

2785
02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:05,560
Speaker 2: And to be fair, driving from Gary to Chicago is

2786
02:18:05,680 --> 02:18:08,279
Speaker 2: not that far. It's like driving from here to Greenwood,

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02:18:09,520 --> 02:18:12,640
Speaker 2: like maybe twenty thirty minutes, So it's not like you're

2788
02:18:13,120 --> 02:18:14,480
Speaker 2: really trying to put.

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02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:15,199
Speaker 1: In traffics on the side.

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02:18:15,640 --> 02:18:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah fair, But yeah, I just don't think that it's

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02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:21,440
Speaker 2: something where, oh my god, they're in Indiana. They're so

2792
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:24,240
Speaker 2: far away, they're just not people cross the border up there,

2793
02:18:24,920 --> 02:18:26,240
Speaker 2: the state lines all the time.

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02:18:27,520 --> 02:18:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:29,360
Speaker 1: For those who missed at Roger KNELLI guess up in

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02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:30,160
Speaker 1: northwest Indiana.

2797
02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:30,360
Speaker 4: Here.

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02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:36,240
Speaker 1: Recently, with the mccaskey's viewing, some site East Chicago Bears, Mark,

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02:18:36,320 --> 02:18:38,440
Speaker 1: Did I see correct? Did they have that on the broadcast?

2800
02:18:38,520 --> 02:18:40,959
Speaker 1: Right when it was a TJ. Johnson that got hurt?

2801
02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:44,880
Speaker 1: TJ what's his name, t J Edwards? TJ Edwards when

2802
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:48,000
Speaker 1: he got hurt? Was that one of the mccaskeys like

2803
02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:51,080
Speaker 1: running into the locker room to see him? Yeah, George, Yep,

2804
02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:54,720
Speaker 1: it was kind of a cool sight. He seems like

2805
02:18:54,760 --> 02:18:56,880
Speaker 1: a pretty like not to get I mean, I don't

2806
02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:59,240
Speaker 1: want to turn this into a McCaskey like conversation here,

2807
02:18:59,280 --> 02:19:03,119
Speaker 1: but I oh no, I don't. I'm not saying here

2808
02:19:03,160 --> 02:19:05,400
Speaker 1: like every ownership group is not running down there to

2809
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:08,320
Speaker 1: view their player, but like that's not your star quarterback

2810
02:19:08,360 --> 02:19:08,880
Speaker 1: going in there.

2811
02:19:08,959 --> 02:19:11,200
Speaker 3: No, he's an interesting He's an interesting dude. I mean

2812
02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:13,280
Speaker 3: he doesn't like cussing and all that, which obviously Ben

2813
02:19:13,360 --> 02:19:15,680
Speaker 3: Johnson's locker room speech is a bit different. But like

2814
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:19,560
Speaker 3: he legit coaches like referees like kids, like it is

2815
02:19:19,600 --> 02:19:22,440
Speaker 3: literal league games, literallyague games on the weekend. Really yeah, yes,

2816
02:19:23,800 --> 02:19:26,480
Speaker 3: direat piece on this he'll be in like northern Chicago suburbs,

2817
02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:27,640
Speaker 3: like refereeing games.

2818
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:29,520
Speaker 1: Sounds like he needs to be at the Al Smith

2819
02:19:29,560 --> 02:19:32,640
Speaker 1: Invite next time Marcus Freeman's son gets on the mat

2820
02:19:33,000 --> 02:19:34,440
Speaker 1: with that new Prairie assistant coaching.

2821
02:19:34,480 --> 02:19:36,480
Speaker 3: When they were here for the Colts game a couple

2822
02:19:36,520 --> 02:19:38,320
Speaker 3: of years ago, he was just walking around the parking lot,

2823
02:19:38,320 --> 02:19:39,840
Speaker 3: just saying hi to fans and everything like that. He

2824
02:19:39,920 --> 02:19:40,640
Speaker 3: just roams around.

2825
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:42,880
Speaker 1: Boy, that's cool.

2826
02:19:42,959 --> 02:19:43,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2827
02:19:43,360 --> 02:19:45,560
Speaker 3: I was walked by my other's George McCaskey, just hanging out.

2828
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:48,959
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, all right, I'm starting to come

2829
02:19:49,000 --> 02:19:50,199
Speaker 1: around on your bears, Mark.

2830
02:19:51,720 --> 02:19:54,240
Speaker 3: I'll take you jump on the bandwagon, like can.

2831
02:19:55,720 --> 02:20:02,560
Speaker 2: Boy? So how quickly does the elation moved to like nervousness?

2832
02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:04,080
Speaker 2: Like when do you start getting a little nervous and

2833
02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:05,080
Speaker 2: antsy for the game? Mark?

2834
02:20:05,320 --> 02:20:08,600
Speaker 1: According to Mark, I mean they've they've alread accomplished everything.

2835
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:11,040
Speaker 2: That's true, But I mean you still want your team

2836
02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:12,119
Speaker 2: to keep advancing.

2837
02:20:11,800 --> 02:20:12,959
Speaker 4: Right that?

2838
02:20:13,080 --> 02:20:16,600
Speaker 1: Mark overreacted to the wild card win. No, No, you can't.

2839
02:20:16,879 --> 02:20:19,880
Speaker 1: That's one hundred years of hate. Yeah, playing at home,

2840
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:21,280
Speaker 1: they should win the game.

2841
02:20:22,120 --> 02:20:25,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, they knocked out your arch rival. And you're, you know, Mark.

2842
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:28,240
Speaker 1: Sackton, like they're playing like this is Gonzaga in two thousands.

2843
02:20:28,280 --> 02:20:29,439
Speaker 1: You know what the rival.

2844
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:33,880
Speaker 3: The Ribelater So lopsided the past, like twenty years. So

2845
02:20:33,959 --> 02:20:36,080
Speaker 3: when you're finally like, Okay, the page is starting to

2846
02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:39,119
Speaker 3: turn in our direction, you have to take it. Especially

2847
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:40,880
Speaker 3: when they blew that big lead and after having it

2848
02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:43,200
Speaker 3: in the second half and everything like that, you got

2849
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:44,840
Speaker 3: to you gotta take it when you can get it.

2850
02:20:44,879 --> 02:20:46,880
Speaker 3: So rub it in their faces. They've been doing it

2851
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:48,920
Speaker 3: to you. And oh, I can't believe Ben Johnson would

2852
02:20:48,959 --> 02:20:51,440
Speaker 3: say that about the Packers. The Packers were saying that

2853
02:20:51,480 --> 02:20:54,160
Speaker 3: about the Bears for twenty years as well, Aaron Rodgers

2854
02:20:54,280 --> 02:20:56,440
Speaker 3: telling them they own us and everything like that. So

2855
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:57,920
Speaker 3: stick it get over here.

2856
02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:01,360
Speaker 2: I did. I was a little surprised that they got

2857
02:21:01,360 --> 02:21:04,119
Speaker 2: the Sunday night slot. I was not because I was.

2858
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:05,240
Speaker 1: Like, man, Chicago, LA.

2859
02:21:05,320 --> 02:21:07,760
Speaker 3: I thought that, for sure, the two biggest markets left.

2860
02:21:07,840 --> 02:21:09,160
Speaker 3: And then also that you got to think of the

2861
02:21:09,200 --> 02:21:11,000
Speaker 3: time difference for LA. They're not going to put them

2862
02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:13,320
Speaker 3: on in the early window. That'd be like a morning game.

2863
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:15,520
Speaker 2: That's a good point. But I didn't think that LA

2864
02:21:15,640 --> 02:21:17,640
Speaker 2: was even going back west after they had won their game?

2865
02:21:17,879 --> 02:21:19,600
Speaker 2: Did they? They probably went home? I would I woud

2866
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 2: have somethme.

2867
02:21:19,879 --> 02:21:21,960
Speaker 1: They probably did this from Craig when you asked about

2868
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:25,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fans. I'll be supporting Indiana. Miami is still

2869
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:29,160
Speaker 1: the convicts. So again James's gets into our older generation.

2870
02:21:29,320 --> 02:21:31,360
Speaker 1: He goes. My question is how many current IU football

2871
02:21:31,400 --> 02:21:34,240
Speaker 1: fans have used the reversible jacket cheering for Notre Dame

2872
02:21:34,240 --> 02:21:36,920
Speaker 1: football and switched to IU basketball. Yes, I know there

2873
02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:38,240
Speaker 1: are a lot of those out there, and I think

2874
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:40,440
Speaker 1: they have probably had to turn on the jacket big

2875
02:21:40,440 --> 02:21:42,640
Speaker 1: one tonight for the Irish. Come on, they got Miami.

2876
02:21:43,240 --> 02:21:46,520
Speaker 1: This is the Milik Renew game coming up Monday night.

2877
02:21:46,920 --> 02:21:49,879
Speaker 2: I had the elk Renew burger down at Big Woods

2878
02:21:49,879 --> 02:21:53,000
Speaker 2: in Indiana and that was the thing and it was great.

2879
02:21:53,720 --> 02:21:54,880
Speaker 2: Shout out to Milak Renew.

2880
02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 1: He's getting buckets for the Hurricanes down there, Notre Dame

2881
02:21:58,280 --> 02:22:00,360
Speaker 1: Miami tonight. I know that's top of mind for everybody

2882
02:22:00,400 --> 02:22:02,200
Speaker 1: out there. Just wanted to make sure we got that

2883
02:22:02,520 --> 02:22:06,640
Speaker 1: Indiana and Michigan State again. That is in east Land,

2884
02:22:06,720 --> 02:22:09,600
Speaker 1: sing an underdog there right around six or seven. Michigan

2885
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:11,280
Speaker 1: State one of the better rebounding teams, certainly in.

2886
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:14,440
Speaker 2: The boys sales number two loud now, h Yeah, I

2887
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:18,560
Speaker 2: can see your children, Rosie and Max. I can see

2888
02:22:18,560 --> 02:22:19,760
Speaker 2: it already.

2889
02:22:19,879 --> 02:22:21,840
Speaker 1: Hopefully their teachers are not letting them listen to the

2890
02:22:21,879 --> 02:22:23,840
Speaker 1: radio during school. I thought we could certainly use some

2891
02:22:24,280 --> 02:22:27,720
Speaker 1: listeners on that front. So that'll be your local basketball

2892
02:22:27,760 --> 02:22:30,279
Speaker 1: coverage tomorrow. We're a little busier. We've got Purdue in Iowa.

2893
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:32,360
Speaker 1: We've got Butler and Xavier, and we've got the Pacers

2894
02:22:32,680 --> 02:22:35,760
Speaker 1: with another game at home. They have got the Toronto

2895
02:22:35,879 --> 02:22:39,200
Speaker 1: Raptors again. A big thanks to Rick Carlisle and Taylor Tannembaum,

2896
02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:42,120
Speaker 1: both of those up on the podcast. Jeff will be

2897
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:45,240
Speaker 1: back tomorrow for Kevin Bowen, for James Boyd from Mark Dyton.

2898
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Speaker 1: Every we have a great Tuesday