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Speaker 1: He is a lifelong who's your statesman and passionate steward

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Speaker 1: of Indiana's history. Born and raised in Indianapolis, and he

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Speaker 1: devoted more than three decades to public service as a

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Speaker 1: in November of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now in the WIBC studio, we have Jim Merritt. Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's nice to see you again.

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Speaker 3: Very much appreciate being on the air with you today.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk with you about this book that

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Speaker 1: you put out. It's called Lessons Learned? Are we ready

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Speaker 1: for the next pandemic? History says no, Okay, So what

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Speaker 1: inspired you to write the book?

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Speaker 4: Well, as you know, I was in the Indiana cent

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Speaker 4: And I remember on March third going to the microphone

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Speaker 4: we signed. He died on March eleventh, and yeah, and

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Speaker 4: we were we didn't know what was coming and because

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Speaker 4: we being the federal government and state government, really were

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Speaker 4: flying blind because we never see him like that, like this,

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Speaker 4: that the governor was trying to get in front of it.

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Speaker 4: The president of the administration, the Trump administration at the time,

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Speaker 4: were just way too many voices, way too many experts

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Speaker 4: And I started to think about and watching the governor

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Speaker 4: executive order after executive order, having a legend slative mind

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Speaker 4: that I felt like I needed to start recording this.

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Speaker 4: And in twenty twenty two, when I saw there was

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Speaker 4: uh say, what the lessons learned available on Amazon dot com?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: What the what the lessons learned? And how we can

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Speaker 4: avoid it? How can we how can we guard against

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Speaker 4: still don't see it.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that you've been writing this book for

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Speaker 1: four years.

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Speaker 3: Four years.

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Speaker 4: Four years, Yes, it took four years, and and uh uh.

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Speaker 4: The book starts out with studying and talking about the

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Speaker 4: It goes through the Spanish flu, of which not many

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Speaker 4: people remember, and then America started with FBR started investing

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Speaker 4: that every pandemic that we've had, no one really corrected

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Speaker 1: You had mentioned it was chaos when Holcombe was in office,

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Speaker 1: and that there were seventy different executive orders. Were you

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Speaker 1: surprised that there was never any discussion about removing his

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Speaker 4: You know, if you recall, there was a lot of

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Speaker 4: discussion between the legislature and the governor's office on a

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Speaker 3: Re engage that.

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Speaker 4: Executive order, he has to call or she has to

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Speaker 1: Jim Merrit is joining us, and we're discussing his book

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Speaker 1: Lessons Learned. Are we ready for the next pandemic? History

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Speaker 1: says no. Before we get more into the book, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask you one question about that time seventy

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Speaker 1: You were talking about one of the protocols that was

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's the clause there.

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Speaker 4: And you know, and if you look if when you

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Speaker 1: Masks with bags on their faces, some plastic, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: Peace, you know.

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Speaker 4: What I always say to people is that fear, fear

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Speaker 4: I'm very worried about the about society going forward because

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Speaker 6: Not anymore, that's for sure. Yeah, fool me once.

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Speaker 4: Anybody listening to this, I think they would agree with me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jim, I find it fascinating.

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Speaker 7: I want to go back to the dynamic between the

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Speaker 7: You said that in March of twenty twenty, March tenth

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Speaker 7: issuing all these executive orders. You mentioned about how the

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Speaker 4: Well, they did to a certain extent, but just back

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Speaker 4: up that when March eleventh came and then Trump shut

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Speaker 4: the CDC, which should not be in charge next time,

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Speaker 4: talking by zoom or in person to every legislator, reading

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Speaker 3: And he had a built in, a built.

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Speaker 4: And so it's all about communication. It's all about fact,

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Speaker 7: You talked about how the CDC was in charge last

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Speaker 7: If it's not the Centers for Disease Control, Well, the

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Speaker 4: Of the army that actually and there's a long acronym,

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Speaker 4: with Operation Warp Speed was done very very well, and

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Speaker 4: the future that arm of the army, army that actually

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Speaker 4: study infection and studies pandemics, should be the proper place.

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Speaker 3: To do so.

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Speaker 1: How much do you think political or media communication, or

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Speaker 4: However, I think they were They were given information by

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Speaker 8: Listening to ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: He is a fierce advocate for historic conservation and education.

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Speaker 1: Jim Merritt playing a pivotal role in some of Indiana's

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Speaker 1: most significant cultural projects, and he has a new book out.

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Speaker 1: It's called Lessons Learned. Are we ready for the next pandemic?

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Speaker 8: History?

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Speaker 1: to the big question about the biggest failure and what

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Speaker 4: It's all about messaging and the confidence that comes from that,

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Speaker 3: Way back in July.

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Speaker 4: Of twenty twenty, you all recall that we had a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she Susanne Crouch was a soldier and it was

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Speaker 1: How much of that was because of federal funding? I

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Speaker 4: So discombobulated with masks. You know, I saw good friends

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Speaker 4: Incredible mistake on masks and it really set us back incredibly.

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Speaker 7: Because the concern at the time was having enough ppe

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Speaker 7: So we don't want the public to use masks and

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Speaker 3: And it goes back to the stockpile. We need to.

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Speaker 3: And uh and and you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jim Merritt is joining us Lessons Learned? Are we

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Speaker 1: ready for the next pandemic? History? Says no. It's a

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Speaker 1: new book that he has out. You can find it

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Speaker 1: on Amazon. In your view, what was the singlest big

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Speaker 3: I think the single biggest.

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Speaker 1: I mean there were many. There's so many you could

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there were.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people turned off a.

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Speaker 2: In your book, you.

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Speaker 1: Take a look historically at past pandemics and then you

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Speaker 4: Well, if you look at the Spanish flu. In the

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Speaker 4: But but with this Philadelphia parade, Uh, people were falling

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Speaker 1: Jamard, it's nice to see you again.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: The book has called lessons learned. Are we ready for

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Speaker 1: the next pandemic? History says no. You can find out

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Speaker 1: wherever you buy your favorite books, including Amazon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: You're listening to ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 1: We're told over and over again that Indiana is one

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Speaker 1: In America's best state to buy a house, banks are

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Speaker 1: I believe we're actually number one. Foreclosures rising in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so yeah, absolutely, Indianapolis.

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Speaker 7: Actually, the state of Indiana had the highest rate of

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Speaker 1: So you've got pandemic era Indiana homeowner assistance funds they

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Speaker 1: and that is property taxes causing all of these foreclosures.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's certainly a big part of it.

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Speaker 7: Another big part of it, too, is that we've seen

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Speaker 6: So if you've been here, if you're.

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Speaker 2: You don't have the wages keeping up.

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Speaker 7: You don't have the wages keeping up, and that's where

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Speaker 1: About sixty one percent of boomers say they don't plan

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Speaker 1: to sell their home anytime soon. It used to be

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Speaker 1: once you reached a certain age, you would downsize.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, you get rid of that big house.

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Speaker 1: You'd sell off a lot of your stuff, and that

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Speaker 1: was to make life easier for you. But the trend

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Speaker 1: now is that baby boomers are staying in those big

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Speaker 1: homes and that is creating this lack of homes for

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Speaker 1: younger buyers.

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Speaker 7: Well, we've seen this in a lot of other data

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Speaker 7: that Americans just aren't as mobile as we used to be.

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Speaker 7: For a long time in this country, we would move

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Speaker 7: anywhere in the country, especially if you've got a better

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Speaker 7: job across the country, you pack up your family and

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Speaker 7: you move there. That is certainly changed dramatically. A couple

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Speaker 7: of other things. A lot of those boomers don't have

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Speaker 7: a mortgage, so they're probably sitting back and thinking, oh,

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Speaker 7: this is great.

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Speaker 6: I don't have a mortgage. Why would I sell my house?

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Speaker 7: And if they do have a mortgage, it's probably one

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Speaker 7: of those dirt dirt cheap mortgages that they were able

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Speaker 7: to get before the pandemic, something around three percent. So again,

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Speaker 7: if you've got a three percent mortgage right now, your

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Speaker 7: prospect of moving at best. I'm going to get a

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Speaker 7: six percent mortgage. Oh and I'm going to be paying

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Speaker 7: a lot more for a house than I did just

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Speaker 7: five or six years ago. I think this is probably

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Speaker 7: going to be a trend that is not going to

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Speaker 7: change anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Some older homeowners they fear that that old capital gains

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Speaker 1: tax as well, so if they were to sell, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just going to discourage them from downsizing, because if

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Speaker 1: they do sell, they've got that huge capital gains tax

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and part of this is, you know, I think

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Speaker 7: one of the reasons why there's such low inventory in

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Speaker 7: so many markets across the country. You don't have that,

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Speaker 7: As you said before, boomers downsizing. They get to that

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Speaker 7: stage of life they want a smaller home they're gonna move.

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Speaker 7: That opens up this home for maybe a first time

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Speaker 7: home buyer or a second time home buyer that can

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Speaker 7: go in there. But because we've got and keep in

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Speaker 7: mind as always, baby boomers are the largest chunk of

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Speaker 7: population in the entire country. They're more baby Boomers than

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Speaker 7: anything else out there, and so they're holding an incredible

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Speaker 7: amount of pieces of real estate and have no interest

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Speaker 7: in moving out of them many time soon.

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Speaker 1: Even if they do sell their forever home, sometimes they

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Speaker 1: sit empty because they're not the type or location of

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Speaker 1: home that a younger buyer might want. It doesn't match

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Speaker 1: what younger buyers are wanting well in regards to size

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Speaker 1: or location.

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Speaker 7: And homeowners have more options because of technology than they

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Speaker 7: ever had before. I can turn my home into I

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Speaker 7: may buy a new home and keep this one and

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Speaker 7: rent it out as an airbnb, or I may hire

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Speaker 7: a real estate management company and just rent it out

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Speaker 7: to the general population. So I think a lot of

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Speaker 7: consumers and a lot of people are much more willing

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Speaker 7: to be a land lord and rent out their old

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Speaker 7: home while they move into a new home, and again

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Speaker 7: that keeps it off the market for a family to purchase.

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Speaker 1: America's most expensive zip codes have been revealed. You've got

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Speaker 1: coastal areas in California and in New York they dominate

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Speaker 1: the top ten list. Also places in Silicon Valley they're

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Speaker 1: ranking very high, with the medium home price being nine

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Speaker 1: million dollars. So what is the most expensive zip code

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Speaker 1: in the country. Beverly Hills, California, the average home is

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Speaker 1: ten point five million dollars. You also have a Bridgehampton,

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Speaker 1: New York, where the average home is eight point eight

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Speaker 1: million dollars. It goes down to a place in Arizona

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Speaker 1: Paradise Valley. The average home there is five point five

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Okay, there's a new design for the dime

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Speaker 1: coming out. The US Mint recently redesigned the dime and

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Speaker 1: that's to mark the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary the

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Speaker 1: semi quincentennial. And unlike the traditional Roosevelt dime, the new

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Speaker 1: version does not include the olive branch on the back.

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Speaker 7: Interesting, now, this design is completely different. I remember when

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Speaker 7: they came out with the quarters. Remember when they did

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Speaker 7: the quarters and the back of the quarter was different

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Speaker 7: for each state, and each state had a different back

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Speaker 7: on it, and they would roll them out every couple

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Speaker 7: of years and you could collect all fifty quarters. I

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Speaker 7: think that whenever the Mint does specialty things like that,

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Speaker 7: it does get people interested in coin collecting, which is

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Speaker 7: kind of a lost hobby that's been gone for a

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Speaker 7: long time.

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Speaker 1: So historically US coins they've shown an eagle holding both

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Speaker 1: arrows for military strength and an olive branch for peace,

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Speaker 1: and on the new dime, the eagle is shown in

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Speaker 1: flight carrying only arrows and nothing in the talent. Now,

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Speaker 1: some people are saying, well, this is because of Operation

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Speaker 1: Epic Fury, and that's not the case. The design was

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Speaker 1: created long before that operation ever began.

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Speaker 7: Now are they messing with the front of the dime.

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Speaker 7: We still got FDR on the front of the dime,

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Speaker 7: or are they changing that too.

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Speaker 1: No, they're changing that too, so we're.

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Speaker 6: Not going to have FDR on the front of the dime.

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Speaker 1: The dime is looking completely different now.

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Speaker 7: That is different because even when they've changed and done

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Speaker 7: these special things, either with the nickels or the quarters.

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Speaker 7: In the past, the front has normally stayed the same,

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Speaker 7: So this is obviously a change in pace for the

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Speaker 7: mint and what they've done in the past.

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Speaker 1: So the redesign of the dime, it's going to revert

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Speaker 1: back to its previous design after this anniversary year, after

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Speaker 1: this semi quincentennial. There's this woman on the internet and

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Speaker 1: she's asking why does nobody want to leave their house anymore?

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Speaker 1: And when she asked that question, the floodgates burst open.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this, Okay, what is up?

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Speaker 5: Is not wanting to leave the house like ever for

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Speaker 5: any reason, work, fun things, nothing, don't want to do it? Like,

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Speaker 5: isn't an age thing? Is this seasonal depression? Like I

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Speaker 5: just don't leave my house unless it's a trip. If

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Speaker 5: it's a trip, I'm there. But anything else I just know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why does nobody want to go out anymore? She said,

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Speaker 1: not for work, not for fun, not even for simple things.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that she'd like to go out for

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Speaker 1: is to go on a trip. And the answers were this,

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Speaker 1: it costs one hundred time, one hundred dollars every time

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Speaker 1: I leave the house. I'd rather stay home than deal

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Speaker 1: with people. Covid turned me into a permanent home buy.

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Speaker 7: I think it's got to be for a lot of people,

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Speaker 7: a big reason.

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Speaker 1: Nothing outside feels worth the effort anymore.

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Speaker 7: We have made our homes fabulous and wonderful. I mean,

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Speaker 7: think of all the things that you have there in

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Speaker 7: a modern home today. You've got Wi Fi, You've got

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Speaker 7: the Internet, You've got streaming television and movies. I can

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Speaker 7: basically play any song I want, or watch any movie

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Speaker 7: or TV show I want. And we've seen this a lot.

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Speaker 7: It's impacted a lot of sporting events. I mean, attendance

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Speaker 7: for big time sporting events isn't what it used to be.

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Speaker 7: They're building stadiums smaller, especially NFL stadiums. We don't see

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Speaker 7: the type of attendance that we used to see at

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Speaker 7: Major League Baseball games and even NBA games because the

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Speaker 7: fan experience.

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Speaker 6: Is pretty aren't good at home.

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Speaker 7: I got a nice big flat screen TV and surround

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Speaker 7: sound speakers, and my own private bathroom right there, and

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Speaker 7: I've got a fridge full of snacks. Is We've made

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Speaker 7: our homes so cozy, so warm, so inviting, so enjoyable,

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Speaker 7: that something on the outside has got to be pretty special.

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Speaker 7: To get me outside of my front door.

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Speaker 8: Well, you and I we.

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Speaker 1: Like to go out to restaurants a lot, But how

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Speaker 1: many times now do we say, M, it's just better

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Speaker 1: to make it at home. Well, we could make it

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Speaker 1: just as good, if not better. And so much service

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Speaker 1: is fantastic at home.

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Speaker 7: So much of doing anything outside your home, it's gotten

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Speaker 7: so expensive. That's got to be a big part of

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Speaker 7: it too. So I think we got the double whammy

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Speaker 7: from COVID. We got the idea that, oh, I don't

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Speaker 7: have to leave my house for my job. I don't

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Speaker 7: have to leave my house for anything. I'm going to

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Speaker 7: hunker down here during COVID. Oh and then because of COVID,

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Speaker 7: we had inflation go through the roof and everything got

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Speaker 7: so expensive. So that one two punch has really made

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Speaker 7: everybody hermits that were just wanting to burrow in our

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Speaker 7: house and not leave it.

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Speaker 1: It does seem like it stopped being an escape and

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Speaker 1: it started to be a job. Right because you've gotten

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Speaker 1: between the traffic and the inflated prices and the pressure

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Speaker 1: to document everything.

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Speaker 6: On social media.

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Speaker 1: Really it's sometimes it's just not an enjoyable experience, and

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Speaker 1: staying home is just more peaceful.

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Speaker 7: I got my slippers, I got some comfortable pants. I've

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Speaker 7: got you know what, it is tough to beat my couch.

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Speaker 7: Our couch is very good. It's very comfortable. It's fantastic.

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Speaker 7: And whatever is on the outside has got to be

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Speaker 7: better than my couch.

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Speaker 8: We've got the.

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Speaker 1: Best audio of the day coming up. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 8: Time for the best audio of the day.

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Speaker 1: A US service member has a message for well, democrats

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Speaker 1: or anybody who doesn't like America.

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Speaker 8: Hey, I don't know who need to hit is?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I see a lot of people be talking to America. Hey,

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Speaker 6: if you don't like America, go to another country. I

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Speaker 6: love this country.

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Speaker 3: I'll partake.

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Speaker 1: It's always been the concept, right, I'm always surprised more

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Speaker 1: people to understand.

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Speaker 2: Are we a perfect nation?

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Speaker 1: No? But where the best there is And if you

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Speaker 1: don't like it, there's the door, find another country.

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Speaker 7: It gets exhausting listening to how many people just want

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Speaker 7: to constantly crap on this country every single day. And

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Speaker 7: so that's why I love that piece of audio, because

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Speaker 7: he is unabashedly proud to be an American. And if

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Speaker 7: you see it. He's wearing his military gear, he's got

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Speaker 7: his helmet on, he's obviously in some sort of US

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Speaker 7: military equipment. I don't know if it's a truck or

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Speaker 7: a humby or something like that. And he's like, you

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Speaker 7: know what, this is the best place ever. And if

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Speaker 7: you don't like it, too bad.

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Speaker 1: And here's the difference. You can like the country but

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Speaker 1: still just like the government. Just because you don't agree

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Speaker 1: with who is in office doesn't mean you should be

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Speaker 1: trashing the entire country. There's the big difference. Regardless of

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Speaker 1: who the president is. It goes beyond one term and

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Speaker 1: one president.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, and there are people that make their

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Speaker 7: entire livings in careers out of crapping all over the country,

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Speaker 7: whether they're on TV or whether they're just on social media.

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Speaker 6: But it does get exhausting hearing everybody.

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Speaker 7: It seems like every time you turn around, and I mean,

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Speaker 7: you're right, it's not legitimate criticisms of the government or

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Speaker 7: the people running it. It always seems to be that

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Speaker 7: it like strikes right at our core values, which is

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Speaker 7: which is awful and terrible. So this was a great

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Speaker 7: piece of audio for today.

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Speaker 1: And I never understood people who are protesting and they

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Speaker 1: wave flags of other countries.

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Speaker 2: If it's so great, there go there.

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Speaker 7: We have open borders. Hey, actually during Biden we had

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Speaker 7: open borders in and out. Thank goodness. You know President

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Speaker 7: Trump has you know, kept people from coming in illegally.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, it's really easy to leave this country and

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Speaker 7: go somewhere else. And the thing is, you've heard plenty

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Speaker 7: of stories people that have, you know, either moved overseas

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Speaker 7: or moved to South America or Canada, and now they're,

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Speaker 7: you know, nine months or a year later and they're like, whoa,

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Speaker 7: this is not what I thought it would be at all.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 6: Grass isn't always greener.

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Speaker 2: So last night you had the oscars, did you watch?

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Speaker 6: No, not one second, No, not one second.

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Speaker 2: You didn't watch.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a few clips online and they're just as

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Speaker 1: gross as you thought they were going to be, just

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Speaker 1: self serving, narcissistic behavior. Apparently all of the people that

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Speaker 1: presented at the Oscars they got a really really lavish bag.

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Speaker 1: The bag was valued between three hundred and forty six

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Speaker 1: to three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Luxury items, high

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Speaker 1: end offerings. Let's talk about some of the things they

687
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: got to go up and talk for thirty seconds. A

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Speaker 1: thirty five thousand dollars stay at a private villa in Finland,

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Speaker 1: a luxury villa stay in Costa Rica. A twenty five

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars voucher for plastic surgery. Also a custom pre

691
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Speaker 1: nuptial agreement voucher with a top attorney. Hey, here's a

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Speaker 1: six hundred dollars coupon for a prenup. I mean, Leonardo

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Speaker 1: DiCaprio was like, can I have extras of those?

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Speaker 7: Just the disgusting display of wealth that is on display

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Speaker 7: here with these gift bags that they give up to

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Speaker 7: these people which are already millionaires or have one hundred

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Speaker 7: million dollars. I mean, these are all rich celebrities in Hollywood,

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Speaker 7: and now they're being given a bag worth at three

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Speaker 7: hundred and twenty five thousand dollars, which again go through

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Speaker 7: that list of things, like those are the most Hollywood

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Speaker 7: things ever, twenty five grand for plastic surgery, you know,

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Speaker 7: coupon's for a pre nump a for an attorney. I mean,

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Speaker 7: those are directed right at the Hollywood, at the Hollywood culture.

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Speaker 7: And I saw the list of winners last night. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I've never heard of most of these movies. I've heard

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Speaker 7: of one of these movies, Sinners. That was it, but

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Speaker 7: one battle after another that was a big winner, Sinners, Hamnett,

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Speaker 7: a movie called Weapons, I'm not familiar with that.

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Speaker 6: I'm a movie guy. I love going to the.

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Speaker 7: Movies, and I just did. The movies just don't offer

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Speaker 7: me anything. And look, you recognize some of these names

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Speaker 7: that won. Paul Thomas Anderson won for Best Director, certainly

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Speaker 7: know him, Michael b. Jordan, Sean penn Amy, madd again

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Speaker 7: one for their acting jobs. I just have never heard

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Speaker 7: of these movies, and apparently most of you haven't either,

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Speaker 7: because the biggest box office out of all of them

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Speaker 7: is Sinners and it's only two hundred and eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 7: It's been out for a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where is Top Gun?

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Speaker 2: Maverick?

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Speaker 7: Give me that and I'm in well but again, But

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Speaker 7: that has never been the type of movie that the

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Speaker 7: Oscars have ever recognized.

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Speaker 6: They've always been above that.

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Speaker 7: This may be a shocker to you, but the Oscars

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Speaker 7: kind of an elitist organization, kind of an elitist awards show.

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Speaker 7: A big surprise coming from a West Coast elitist industry

728
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 7: like Hollywood, but the Oscars are totally elitist. And that's

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Speaker 7: who they always give out the awards to every year

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Speaker 7: is who can be the biggest muckety muck in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got the metrics showing big drop in live viewership.

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Speaker 1: And in twenty twenty nine, the Oscars are moving to YouTube.

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Speaker 1: They say it's to reconnect with younger, global audiences. I

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Speaker 1: say it's because and nobody watching it on TV.

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Speaker 8: You're listening to ninety three WIBC