1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be here, Good 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: to be with you. We continue now with President Trump 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: answering questions about what's going on in Iran. He had 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: the Oval Office meeting with the Chancellor of Germany Helma Cole. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: And no, it's not Helmet Cole. What am I? How 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: old am I? Who am I thinking of? Yes, Helmt 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: Cole's the old chancellor. This is Frederick Murrs. That is correct. 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: Good lord, Wait when was Helmut Cole the chancellor that 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: I went to? Helmut Cole? Okay, we're talking about with 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: the late nineties. 11 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Ah West Germany and then reunified Germany. Good on me, 12 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Good on me, Well done cats, nice Biden moment right there. 13 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent work. I need to be immediately checked. But 14 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: back to President Trump. 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 4: Person right, that could happen. We don't want that to happen. 16 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 4: It would probably be the worst. You go through this 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 4: and then in five years you realize you put somebody 18 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 4: in who is no better. So we'd like to see 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: somebody in there that's gonna bring it back for the people. 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens. 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: With the people. You know, they have their chance, and 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: we've said don't do it yet. If you're going to 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: go out and protest, don't do it yet. It's very 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: dangerous out there. A lot of bombs are being dropped, 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 4: but I always say that would be about the worst 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: you have someone in mind right now. 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 5: If you've said all the people you could have in mind. 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 4: Has been taken out with you, well, most of the 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: people we had in mind are dead. So you know 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: we had some in mind from that group that is dead. 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Can I discuss how much that bothers me? Why in 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: the world could you pick anybody from a group that 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: would continue this level of regime? And how did he 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: get killed? Was he part of the meeting to pick 35 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: a new Ayahtola? That's not somebody who can have a 36 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: relationship with not at all. That kind of stuff freaks 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: me out. 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: And now we have another group. They may be dead 39 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: also based on reports, So I guess you have a 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: third wave coming and pretty sure we're not going to 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: know anybody, but we have. I mean, Venezuela was so 42 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: incredible because we did the attack and we kept government 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: totally intact, and we have Delsey who's been very good. 44 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: We have the whole chain of command and they've been. 45 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: You know, their relationship has been great. We've taken out 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: one hundred million barrels of oil already and a big 47 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: part of that goes to them and a big part 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: goes to us, and it's been great. If we paid 49 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: for the war many times. 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: Over is Delsea Rodriguez, who's part of the Madora regime 51 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: that's still in power. 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: So it's not going great. 53 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: But understand, this is what Trump does, this is how 54 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: he talks. This is not new to anybody. DELSI will 55 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: be in power until she's not. 56 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Just that easy, and. 57 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: We're going to be running the oil and then as 58 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: well as going to make more money than they ever made. 59 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: And that's great for the people. The relationship has been great, 60 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: it's been seamless. Nobody's actually ever seen anything like it. 61 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: If you look at a rack where very stupidly, everybody 62 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: was fired. The generals were fired, the military was fired, 63 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: the police were fired, the fire departments were fired, and 64 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: all of the government workers were fired. So after, you know, 65 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: people would call they had no I And by the way, 66 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: ISIS was formed, that's where Isis came from. All of 67 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: the fired people. We don't believe in that. So we'll 68 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: see what happens, But first we have to finish off 69 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: the military. 70 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 5: For the play. Is he an option at all in 71 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 5: your mind? 72 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: I guess he is. 73 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 4: Some people like him, and we haven't been thinking about 74 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: too much about that. It would seem to me that 75 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 4: somebody from within might maybe would be more appropriate. I've 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: said that he looks like a very nice person, but 77 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 4: it would seem to me that somebody that's there that's 78 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: currently popular, if there's such a person. But we have 79 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: people like that, we have people that were more moderate. 80 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 4: You know, these were radical lunatics, and you know what 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: they get. They get nothing. All they do is kill people. 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: You have to make the assumption. And knowing Trump a 83 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: little bit, there are some things that of him and 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: some things that, for lack of a better word, that 85 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: haunt him. And he looks at a rack and he says, 86 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to put myself in that position. He 87 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: looks at Libya and the taking out of Gaddafi and 88 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: he says, I'm not going to put myself in that 89 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: position where you have nobody to fill the void. 90 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: And then you know, was a world of or is 91 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: a vacuum? And what did you get? The Muslim brotherhood 92 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: and it was worse. 93 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: So one has to assume, One has to assume that 94 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: there are names, and there are people, whether it's the 95 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: Crown Prince. 96 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: Or others, that it isn't just a shot in the dark. 97 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: And you say to me, so so the US and 98 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: Israel and other nations might choose who's going to lead 99 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: around and allow me to say, I think that's absolutely 100 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. So, Tony, you admit that this 101 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: is a regime change. Oh, ten thousand percent, it's regime 102 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Are we friends? Well, well, all of a sudden we 103 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: lie to each other, not me, not for a second, 104 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: no chance. Absolutely, it's regime change. Absolutely. I don't know 105 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: why we would say anything else. I heard a Pete 106 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: eggs at the Secretary of War, Secretary of Secretary of 107 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: Defense saying that the other day this isn't regime change, 108 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: of course it is. Well, we're just setting the stage 109 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: so that they could choose for themselves. 110 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Fine, it's regime change, that is what it is. I 111 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: don't know why we would somehow not be totally honest 112 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: about it. 113 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Back to the President, as he spoke just earlier in 114 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: this White House Oval Office meeting with the Chancellor of Germany, 115 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Frederick Murrs and definitely not Helmet Cole because this is 116 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: not the nineteen eighties. 117 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: You've asked, so your not your turn, not your turn? 118 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: Please? As a president, how do you off Europe in 119 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: the student said to be helped? You mos us cool 120 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: on the Allies and what does that mean well to NATO? 121 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the question being asked here, and I 122 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: don't know who he had monished. 123 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: Well, some of the European nations have been helpful and 124 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: some haven't. And I'm, you know, very surprised. It's Germany 125 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: has been great, He's been uh terrific. 126 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 127 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: Others have been very good, terrific. I think that the 128 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: head of NATO, Mark is fantastic, Okay, Mark Ruta, Uh, 129 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: I think he's fantastic. Uh. But some of the European 130 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: like Spain, has been terrible. In fact, I told uh 131 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: Scott to cut off all dealings with Spain. Spain. First 132 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: of all, it started when every every European nation, at 133 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: my request, paid five percent, which I should be doing, 134 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: and everybody was enthusiastic about in Germany everybody, and Spain 135 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: didn't do it. And now Spain actually said that we 136 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: can't use their basis, and that's a I don't know. 137 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: We could use the basic we want. We could just 138 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: fly in and use it. Nobody's going to tell us 139 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: not to use it. But we don't have to. But 140 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: they were unfriendly. 141 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: The Spain story is actually a big one because Spain, 142 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: like Ireland and recognizing the state of Palestine and the 143 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: virulent leftism that exists there. That's that is what's guiding them. 144 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: And this really takes us into a larger scale conversation. 145 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: It was and I'll get I'll get back to this. 146 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: The United Nations stating very clearly. 147 00:08:53,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: That they're running out of money, and the run out 148 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: of money is a serious problem for them, it would 149 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: be a serious problem for anybody. This was the UN spokesperson. 150 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Let me see if I can bring this to you. 151 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: Just yesterday on this I think it was yesterday, they 152 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: were talking about this. 153 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: Let me see if I can bring it up. 154 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 5: Listen, your General has, as you know, repeatedly made clear 155 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 5: the problem both of non payment of Jews by member 156 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 5: states and the related problem of the UN being forced 157 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 5: to repay member states for budget expenses that it does 158 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 5: not that it budget budget money that it does not spend, 159 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 5: and so those two factors have put us on an 160 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 5: unsustainable trajectory. 161 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Although I see, I don't think that's what's put you 162 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: on the unsustainable trajectory. I think the fact that you're 163 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: terrible has put you on the unsustainable trajectory. 164 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: And you are. You're a terrible organization. You provide no value. 165 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: Why should we think ourselves degrade ourselves to be part 166 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: of an organization with Spain or or or with the 167 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: these anti American zelots, these bigots, these these globalists. 168 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: Why don't we just start over now? You say to me, Tony, 169 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: why do we need it at all? I would argue that. 170 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: At all times, diplomacy and conversation are worth the effort. 171 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: But the UN is not. The UN hasn't stopped any wars. 172 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: The UN hasn't brought any safety of security. All the 173 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: UN has done. 174 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: Has provided cover for despots. No, we shouldn't be a 175 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: part of that. We should We. 176 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Should drop that immediately, if not sooner. Absolutely in it 177 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: every way. So I like hearing that they're running out 178 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: of cash and that member states won't pay up, because 179 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: their answer is, well, the United States are just handle it. 180 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to handle any of it. Not an ounce, 181 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: not an ounce. 182 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: Let's start over. Let's start over with better friends. Let's 183 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: make that happen immediately. 184 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz and and this is 185 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today