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Speaker 3: but one o'clock. I mean it's not it's.

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Speaker 3: I think that's always a good measuring stick of what

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Speaker 1: Are you a draw?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's like a sexy matchup and everything?

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Speaker 3: So I always think that that's a good barometer to

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Speaker 1: return from their bye week. They'll get into that Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon. I'm Kevin Bowen. That was Mark Dyton

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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. I'm good.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited for practice, which sounds weird, but it feels

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Speaker 4: hopefully we will see Javarius Mooney Ward number seven out

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Speaker 4: there for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of interesting practice squad moves you can

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Speaker 1: the other matchup, you know, Daniel Jones and the Colts

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Speaker 1: here and the last couple of games in Steve Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: I thought you threw out some interesting numbers kind of

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Speaker 1: like looking ahead that Tomorrow night again we'll have Texans Bills.

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Speaker 1: That is our Thursday night matchup. It will be Davis

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Speaker 2: But C. J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud did return to practice yesterday, and I bring that

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Speaker 1: up because next Sunday the Colts play the Texans, and James,

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Speaker 1: I look at these next two weeks and I kind

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Speaker 1: That is true. It might lack the sexiness that Mark

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Speaker 1: Dyke can refer to earlier. But just because Spirodidas is

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Speaker 1: You don't think an Andrew Catalan game is sitting there?

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Speaker 4: I think to answer your question, Kevin, that from a

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Speaker 1: Shed your old skin. What a great That was a

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Speaker 4: other people in the national market, national media. Not that

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Speaker 4: I think you do have to kind of take that approach.

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Speaker 1: Is not there. So how do you revive that? Pacers? Hornets? Tonight?

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Speaker 1: All right tonight inside of Gamebridge Field House, the Indiana

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Speaker 1: you've got a couple of marquee ones as well, Arizona

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Speaker 1: at Yukon. That's four versus three in the polls uh,

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Speaker 1: and then Alabama and Illinois taking on each other. I

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Speaker 1: believe that's a united center for that one. Unfortunately, Braylan

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Speaker 1: Mullins has been out with an ankle injury. Gonna be

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Speaker 1: out I think a little bit longer, so he won't

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Speaker 1: play for Yukon. I was thinking about this yesterday in

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Speaker 1: regards to Indiana's non conference schedule. Indiana's got Louisville coming

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Speaker 1: up over gamebridge Field House. That is a Saturday, I

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Speaker 1: think it's the sixth or the fifth of December, Saturday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: and then we start back up the Indiana Kentucky series,

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Speaker 1: which obviously has had a ton of debate among both

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Speaker 1: of those fan bases. And for the first time since

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Speaker 1: the watch shot, you will have Indiana traveling to Kentucky

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Speaker 1: that next Saturday, so James back to back weekends, Indiana

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Speaker 1: basketball plays Louisville on a neutral floor here in Indy,

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Speaker 1: and then the next Saturday, they are at Kentucky. And

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Speaker 1: I would argue with I think plenty of merit that

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Speaker 1: the fan base of the Indiana Hoosiers will care more

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Speaker 1: about Indiana football on each of those Saturdays than they

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Speaker 1: will Indiana basketball playing Louisville and Kentuck.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but I think a lot of that has to

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Speaker 4: do with one team is wildly more successful at the

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Speaker 4: moment than the other.

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Speaker 1: Well, if I you basketball were top five, well hear

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Speaker 1: me out for a second here and again, it's what

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Speaker 1: a time to be alive. But Indiana will have the

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Speaker 1: in all likelihood the Big Ten title. That's Saturday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's Indian Louisville Gamebridge Field House. I believe it's

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Speaker 1: a two o'clock tip time. And then if you want to,

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Speaker 1: and boy, pray for the Candy Stripe Nation, pray for

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Speaker 1: the downtown bars, pray for the Livers. You could then

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Speaker 1: make the walk over to Lucas Oil Stadium for what

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Speaker 1: we are assuming will be Indiana and Ohio State on

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Speaker 1: that Saturday night and then the next Saturday. And I

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Speaker 1: find this a little funny. You know, ESPN hosts the

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Speaker 1: rights to the Heisman Trophy ceremony, right, So ESPN has

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Speaker 1: moved the Heisman Trophy over to ABC. So from a

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Speaker 1: programming standpoint, you know, Heisman Trope Saturday is always just

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Speaker 1: Army Navy. From a college football standpoint, obviously you don't

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Speaker 1: play anymore games. So ESPN thought to themselves, you know whatever,

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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, Hey, let's get kind of

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Speaker 1: a marquee college basketball game opposite the Heisman, you know,

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Speaker 1: and let's just pick teams that probably won't have Heisman finalists.

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Speaker 1: So what's the game tipping at the same time of

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Speaker 1: the Heisman ceremony and you're at Kentucknee your point in basketball.

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Speaker 1: So for back to back Saturdays, I you Nation will

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Speaker 1: be more concerned understandably with their football program. Okay, once

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Speaker 1: you laid it all out, the yeah for sure, which

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Speaker 1: is just wild.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking about championships in the biggest award in

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Speaker 4: the sport, both of which you're in high contention for.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the odds are. Maybe Mark and

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Speaker 4: check for is. But who's the highs and front runner

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Speaker 4: right now? Is it from Amenosa?

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Speaker 1: I believe it is. But you know, again, I've said

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Speaker 1: this before about the Big Ten title. I almost think

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Speaker 1: it's winner takes all of it, and by all of it,

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Speaker 1: I mean number one seed in the playoff and also

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Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy. Like I think Julian's saying is probably,

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Speaker 1: you know, right there with with Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: And Fernando Mendoza plus one hundred, he is the front runner,

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Speaker 3: saying plus one ninety the second.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so their neck and neck man, Julian saying, looks

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Speaker 4: like he's twelve.

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Speaker 1: How old is this guy? Is he even draft eligible?

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Speaker 1: Twenty We've said Fernando Mendoza would be the campus tour guide. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you visit schools, would Julian say, and be the one

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Speaker 1: like in the back, kind of keeping the crowd under control.

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Speaker 4: I feel like Julian saying, will be the little brother

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Speaker 4: of the sibling taking the visit. I'm not kidding. This

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Speaker 4: kid looks very young, very good player. By the way,

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Speaker 4: I want to say, he hasn't thrown an interception this year.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even mistaken on that, but it's very low.

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Speaker 4: Oh here it is twenty five touchdown. It's a foreig interceptions.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, great player so far.

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Speaker 3: He looks like he's like a Disney channel like Bully

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Speaker 3: or something. In the high school or something.

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Speaker 1: The cool kid. But yes, that is wild your nerd

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Speaker 1: Colts Chief's coming up Sunday again one o'clock. Nanson Romo

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Speaker 1: will be on this, James, I know anytime you play

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes rightfully, so that becomes a huge, huge storyline.

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Speaker 1: I was looking a little bit deeper. I'm sure you've

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Speaker 1: you've done the same into the lou An Roumo history

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Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes. You know it's pretty well documented that

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Speaker 1: you know, Rumos had some success. Yeah, I believe at

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Speaker 1: one point Cincinnati won three straight. Yeah, the runs they

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Speaker 1: had Cansas against them were defensive base.

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Speaker 4: Talking to our guy here at the Athletic Paul Danner Junior,

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Speaker 4: he made it very clear when the cole tire Luinarumo, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I know everyone gives the credit to Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 4: it's slaying the dragon, knocking off Patrick Mahomes having his number.

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Speaker 4: But he was like those if you go back and

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Speaker 4: watch those games, the defense carried them throughout that, especially

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Speaker 4: that run to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was looking at a couple of the playoff

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Speaker 1: games and one constant was sacking Patrick Mahomes. I think

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Speaker 1: it was seven combined sacks and two games and it

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Speaker 1: seemed like one of the wrinkles that an Rumo threw

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Speaker 1: at Mahomes was not necessarily you know, five six man

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Speaker 1: pressures or tons of blitzing. It was more of the

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Speaker 1: and we've seen this out of Anarumo this year. It

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Speaker 1: was more of the dropping of seven or eight guys.

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Speaker 1: And think about how many times we've seen Laotu Latsu

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Speaker 1: like in pass coverage this year. That was kind of

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Speaker 1: more of his staple. Now, granted, you know sass Gardner

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Speaker 1: and potentially mooning Ward back, how does that change things?

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Speaker 1: I can hear out the it was the defense, but

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Speaker 1: you know, looking at those games, James, in the three

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Speaker 1: times that they did upset Kansas City, the Chiefs still

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Speaker 1: scored twenty four, twenty four, and thirty one in those

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Speaker 1: three games. Yeah, So as we transition to Sunday, I

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Speaker 1: think it is a reminder of like, yeah, obviously the

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Speaker 1: an Arumo Mahomes matchup will get played out and will

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Speaker 1: be certainly a big storyline, but you still have to score.

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Speaker 1: And I know that sounds like one of the more

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Speaker 1: elementary things, but duh, I think that kind of falls

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Speaker 1: in line with where's the Colts offense at right? Now,

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Speaker 1: where is Daniel Jones in relation to a Kansas City

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Speaker 1: defense that Steve Spagnola in his history is I will

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Speaker 1: bring the kitchen sink at you. Jim Bob Cooter described

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Speaker 1: him as kind of a blitz architect yesterday on the

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Speaker 1: Zoom call that we had with him, and I thought

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Speaker 1: Joel A. Erickson pointed out an interesting thing of if

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Speaker 1: you look into Daniel Jones numbers over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, his sack numbers have gone up infinitely. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's not like he's holding out of the ball longer.

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Speaker 1: This is simply just the pressure, the actual pass rush

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Speaker 1: pressure is getting to Daniel Jones quicker, yeah than what

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Speaker 1: it was earlier in the season. So again, I know

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Speaker 1: everything is Mahomes and Ana Rumo and will be for Sunday,

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Speaker 1: But Spagnola versus Daniel Jones, that is quite the undercard

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Speaker 1: in my eyes. Absolutely, this is gonna be a chess match.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 4: We know how much film Daniel Jones will break down,

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Speaker 4: and certainly there's never been any issues with Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 4: studying the game. So typical of these types of games,

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Speaker 4: it'll come down who can make the least amount of

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Speaker 4: mistakes because I think when you're facing teams like these

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Speaker 4: the Colts and the Chiefs, especially the Colts this season,

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Speaker 4: if you make a mistake and they get a short field,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna punish you for it. These are teams that score,

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Speaker 4: and I think with the Colts, for the Chiefs' sake,

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Speaker 4: if you're Patrick Mahomes and company, if you're the defense

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Speaker 4: rather Chris Jones and company, you're thinking, boy, we have

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Speaker 4: to find a way to help our offense out and

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Speaker 4: get them off the field because we know if the

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Speaker 4: Colts don't turn it over, they're going to score and

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Speaker 4: I just score field goals, they're going to score touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: So that to me has only been their issue. Like

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Speaker 4: if you look at their two losses this year, it's

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Speaker 4: had to do with turnovers, and even in the games

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Speaker 4: where it's got a little hairy late, it's usually that

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Speaker 4: way because the turnovers. I'm not saying they're gonna play

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Speaker 4: perfectly clean games the rest of the way, but I

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Speaker 4: do think when they look at some of their mistakes,

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Speaker 4: a lot of it is like if we just take

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Speaker 4: care of the football and cut those turnovers down and

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Speaker 4: win that battle, because they kind of they actually won

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Speaker 4: that battle in the reverse Berlin, I think there was

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Speaker 4: two one the turnover ratio. So yeah, if they can

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Speaker 4: flip those fortunes again Kansas City, I think they have

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Speaker 4: a great chance of going in there and knocking them

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Speaker 4: off an arrowhead.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk a lot of colts coming up eight o'clock hour.

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Speaker 1: Steven Holder going to join us, but I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that we give some time to this next clip.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not one that likes to rehash this on

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Speaker 1: an annual basis by any means. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have held there's been a documentary on it, but

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Speaker 1: today is indeed the twenty first anniversary. Elis And was

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Speaker 1: back on and I think it was in a nine

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Speaker 1: o'clock hour segment, so you know, maybe for a seven

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Speaker 1: thirty audience that might have missed it or just forgot

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Speaker 1: about it. The day that we had Rick on, it

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Speaker 1: was the actual anniversary of it. And you know, he

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Speaker 1: had brought up the brawl kind of organically in one

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Speaker 1: of his answers earlier in that interview, and so I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, Rick, it's something I'm sure you've been asked

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Speaker 1: about a million times, blah blah blah, but just kind

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Speaker 1: of curious, you know, your thoughts on it, and his

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Speaker 1: answer went down a path that I didn't necessarily. First off,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how much he would get into it,

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Speaker 1: and next thing I know, the answer was like five

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Speaker 1: minutes long. So well, let's play this here, Mark again.

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Speaker 1: This is where Carlisle a couple of years back on

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Speaker 1: the brawl and kind of everything that unfolded for that

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Speaker 1: Pacers team in that two thousand and four season.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think I think about it very rarely, And yeah,

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Speaker 7: I didn't mean to bring it up on the on

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Speaker 7: the anniversary of it, because I look back at it

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Speaker 7: as one of the most positive experiences of my coaching career.

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Speaker 7: You know, we we we got off to a seven

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Speaker 7: and two start when it happened something like that. We

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Speaker 7: had a couple of games that Kevin, I don't even

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Speaker 7: know if you were alive then, I mean, but I.

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Speaker 1: Was, unfortunately I remember watching it live.

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Speaker 7: Yeah all right, Well, you know the next three games

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Speaker 7: at home were you know, we're like storybook type game

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Speaker 7: with six guys available for almost one night night, right, yeah,

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Speaker 7: and and you know you have to get address eight.

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Speaker 7: That was the NBA rule, And we had suspensions and

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Speaker 7: so some of our guys had to stagger their suspensions,

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Speaker 7: and it's one it's one reason or one way that

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Speaker 7: a suspension can be suspended, you know, to the following game.

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Speaker 7: And so, uh, we lost to Orlando the following night.

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Speaker 7: Then we won the next two or three at home.

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Speaker 7: We got to like, you know, ten and three or

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Speaker 7: ten and four, and then in reality, you know, stuck

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Speaker 7: kind of set in. We we went on the West

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Speaker 7: coast trip. We had we had guys that were being

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Speaker 7: signed out of the it was the CBA at the time,

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Speaker 7: the Continental League. Eddie Gill was one of them. Who

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Speaker 7: else there was there were two or three others.

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Speaker 1: Britton Johnson or some name popping into my head right now.

650
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Britton Johnson was another. There was a third guy.

651
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 7: If you said his name, I would I would know

652
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 7: it readily. But you know, you go out west and

653
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 7: the tea's out west. In those days were we're good

654
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 7: and we got I mean, we got smashed for like

655
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 7: five games or something like that, and and then came

656
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 7: back and it was it was and Reggie Miller had

657
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 7: been hurt and wasn't even he had been hurt in

658
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 7: the in the in the last preseason Game of the

659
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 7: Year that year, and so he was out for the

660
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 7: first three weeks of the season, and so, you know,

661
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 7: it was it was tough letting and we were just

662
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 7: clawed and fighting for any win that we could get.

663
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 7: And then as we started to get guys back, you know,

664
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Speaker 7: in in early December whatever it was, you know, Jermaine o'neils,

665
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 7: I remember his suspension was shortened. You know, Stephen Jackson

666
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 7: came back sometime in January, and there were other guys

667
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 7: that were out help wise. You know, here's here's always

668
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 7: a story you get you get guys back from long

669
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 7: layoffs for long, you know, being out with injuries or

670
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 7: this kind of situation. You played bad for a while

671
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 7: and then you start playing better. And so anyway, we

672
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 7: ended up the season going on a twenty two and

673
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 7: seven run. Really that was fueled by Anthony Johnson, who

674
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 7: who had taken over the starting point because Tinsley had

675
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 7: been hurt. And so, you know, we we ended up

676
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 7: at the end of the year with the sixth spot

677
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 7: in the in the playoff position, we played Boston, who

678
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 7: was the three seed. We beat Boston in seven games

679
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 7: and one of the most bizarre series, you know, you've

680
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 7: ever seen. We lose the first game by thirty. You know,

681
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 7: there guys are talking about a sweep and they're getting there.

682
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 7: We they're they're mimicking, you know, brooms down at the bench,

683
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 7: at the end of the bench. You know, a couple

684
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 7: of the Boston writers right about it. Our guys get pissed.

685
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 7: We turned around, win game two in Boston. We come home,

686
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 7: win Game three, and then you know, we lose Game

687
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 7: four and now it's two to two. So now you're

688
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 7: now you're two to two going back to Boston, and

689
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 7: you know, Game five on the road in a seven

690
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 7: game series when it's tied to to is one of

691
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 7: the most difficult ones. Well, meanwhile, we're having trouble getting

692
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 7: the ball over half court against Marcus Banks, who's putting

693
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 7: so much ball pressure full court. We bring back Jamal Tinsley,

694
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 7: who hasn't played in two months or something like this,

695
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 7: and in Tinsley we start him because Marcus Banks was

696
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 7: starting for Boston. In Tinsley plays great and we end

697
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 7: up winning Game five, and then we come home and

698
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 7: we're playing Game six. It's a closeout game at home.

699
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 7: Somebody it was either Paul Pierce or somebody ri Antoine

700
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 7: Walker or maybe both of them. I think Pierce may

701
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 7: have may have either filed out or got thrown out

702
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 7: of the game at the end. We get into overtime

703
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 7: and we and we can't get the game closed in overtime,

704
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 7: and so now we're going back to Boston. In game seven,

705
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 7: everything's were sunk and we get we get to Boston

706
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 7: and then we hang around in the first half and

707
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 7: then Fred Jones gets hot from three in the third quarter,

708
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 7: makes like three or four in a row, and all

709
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 7: of a sudden, we pop it open. We win Game

710
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 7: seven at Boston by twenty eight points. I mean, it

711
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 7: was one of the most unbelievable series you're ever gonna see.

712
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 7: And then we you know, we attacked for game for

713
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 7: Round two, just you know, because you had to because

714
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 7: if we won, we were going right to Round two,

715
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 7: which was in Detroit against the Pistons, and that was

716
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 7: Reggie Miller's last playoff series. Yeah, it was a back

717
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 7: and forth series.

718
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: You know.

719
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 7: We we split the first two games. I think we

720
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 7: split the second two games, and we end up losing

721
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 7: in six. You know, a game where Reggie had kind

722
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 7: of a legendary game for the last game of your

723
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 7: career if your guy in your late thirties, and it

724
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 7: turned out to be a very a very positive year,

725
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 7: and and so I look at it. I look back

726
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 7: at that experience as you know, one of the most

727
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 7: positive of of my coaching career. I know there's a

728
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 7: lot of there's a lot of talk about it, but

729
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 7: the reality of that whole situation is that there was

730
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 7: not one significant injury that came out of the brawl itself.

731
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: Not one.

732
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 7: There were all kinds of lawsuits and all kinds of

733
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 7: ridiculous claims this, that and the other, and a lot

734
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 7: of it was just nonsense. And you know, the way

735
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 7: the way it turned out, you know it was there

736
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 7: was there was a lot of talk, a lot of gyrations,

737
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 7: a lot of replaying the thing over and over again.

738
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 7: It was the perfect storm of the wrong thing happening

739
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 7: at the wrong time. But there were no injuries, and

740
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 7: you know, we came out of it very positively. So

741
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 7: that's how I've alway.

742
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: Looked at it.

743
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: You know, one kind of grand takeaway I have James

744
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: from Rick Carlisle sharing that with us again twenty first

745
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: anniversary of the brawl today, The mouse of the Palace.

746
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: That next night, Fred Jones missed the three of the

747
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: buzzer to beat the Magic. They played six guys that night.

748
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: I went up and looked at the box score and

749
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: Rick mentions, you know, in that answer they had to

750
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: stagger some of the suspensions to try and field the roster.

751
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Fred Jones played forty eight minutes that night at thirty

752
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: one points. Eddie Gill played every minute, David Harrison played

753
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: forty four minutes, James Jones played forty three, Austin Krozer

754
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: played forty two. John Edwards, the only man off the

755
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: bench that night, played fifteen minutes. And you know, as

756
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: I kind of fast forward to where we're at right now,

757
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: this current Pacers situation, by no means is there any

758
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: comparison to the mouse of the Palace and the health

759
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: of the Pacers. But there is a comparison and opportunity,

760
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: and Rick mentions in that answer, James Jones, Eddie Gill,

761
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: and Fred Jones, they all of a sudden turned that

762
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: into NBA opportunity. Yeah, and they had some sort of

763
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: a career out of that. And if you're one of

764
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: these guys right now with the Pacers, you've got opportunity

765
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: and all just single Jaris Walker out because he's the

766
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: most heralded of it, of a top ten pick, that is,

767
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, in his first two years it's kind of

768
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: been hard to get him consistent minutes and you know

769
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: so many times with these high draft picks. Yes, it

770
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: is a lot about your talent and your development, but

771
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: it also is a lot about opportunity. Like Aaron Eatsmith,

772
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: if he wouldn't have got it in Boston, he had

773
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: to be moved from Boston to get the opportunity. Very

774
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: good point. If you are of these guys on the roster

775
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: right now, you couldn't dream of a better situation. As

776
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: bad as that sounds, and health is contributing to it,

777
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: you better take advantage of it or else your stay

778
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: here isn't going to be very long at all, and

779
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: you're stay in the association might not be very long

780
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: at all.

781
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: I would definitely agree with that two things, and I'll

782
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: get back to your point. For me, I always kind

783
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: of dismiss that's the fact that they had a season

784
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: after the brawl, meaning that they continued the season and

785
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: they actually had a lot of success. And as Rick

786
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 4: laid out, you went up against the team that you

787
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 4: were fighting against literally in the playoffs and you had,

788
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: you know, one a round and things like that. So

789
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 4: that to me is always kind of sobering in a

790
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 4: sense because I'm like, wait a second, you weren't supposed

791
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: to be there.

792
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: Well, and take that one step further. Rick mentions Reggie

793
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: Miller's final game. Yeah, and I can picture right now.

794
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: I mean the emotions inside of that building that night,

795
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: and I think it was Michelle Tafoya maybe interviewing him

796
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: after the game. And we've asked Rick about this. When

797
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: he takes Reggie out of the game with whatever, fifteen

798
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: seconds to go in the game, it's Larry Brown, who,

799
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: if you remember the night of the brawl, him finally

800
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: getting too the mic and his voice kind of crackling

801
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: a bit on the mic that night with his emotion. Well,

802
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: what does Larry Brown do Reggie's final game? He takes

803
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: the time out after Rick takes Reggie out. Why does

804
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: he take a time out because he wants to stand

805
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: the ovation to continue? Yeah, and yeah, I mean it

806
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: was a very movie like Frankly, and you go to

807
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: November and the brawl and then you fast forward to

808
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: whatever that was April, and the Reggie scene is one

809
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: of the more emotional ones, you know, right up there

810
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: with Peyton's return.

811
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 4: Frankly, yeah, honestly think that Reggie had one of the

812
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: better send offs because he was playing for something at

813
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 4: the end.

814
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and well, oh yeah, I.

815
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 4: Mean he went off on his sword twenty seven points

816
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: in that game six loss. But to get back to

817
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: your point about just the opportunities that are with this

818
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 4: current team, I wonder how much harder it is. And

819
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: this had nothing to do with the brawl. The bra

820
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 4: was just such a unique situation where you can't really

821
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 4: compare it to anything else, but how much harder is

822
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: your opportunity to kind of seize when so much else

823
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: around you is in flux? And I say that for

824
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 4: Jars in particular because he's the one coming into the

825
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: year that I feel like had the least amount of

826
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: identity in his game.

827
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if you're able to really

828
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: craft it.

829
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll make excuses for him, but how can you

830
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: craft it when every game something is being acted you differently,

831
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 4: Like for Mathering, it's like, all right, well we wanted

832
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: you to pass a little bit more, but.

833
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: You know, what leading to that scoring thing you do?

834
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 7: So?

835
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: Well?

836
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: What is it for Jerius?

837
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: And I would like to know you this question for

838
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: him that I will ask at some point, maybe I'll make

839
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: it over tonight to do so what things do does

840
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: he look at in his game and say this? If

841
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: I got to pick two or three things, hell, if

842
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 4: I got to pick one to be great at this year,

843
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 4: what is that one thing? What can I hang my

844
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 4: hat on when everything else might not be going my way?

845
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: Because in my opinion, dude, you got to do something

846
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: to just make yourself some money to be frank Can

847
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 4: I be a defensive stopper?

848
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: Can I be a rebounder? Can I be yeah, a

849
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: guy who defends you know, one through four? Whatever?

850
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: Can you do something to that level that makes all

851
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 4: of us say, hey, at least you're good at this,

852
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: because right now I can't say that about his game.

853
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a fair statement. Tonight Pacers hornets

854
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: inside a Gainbridge field house. Shockingly, they are close to

855
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: about to pick them for this game. So if not tonight,

856
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: I don't know when. Frankly the Pacers will get that

857
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: next w Much more on that, much more on the

858
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: Colts Cults are back to practice later today as they

859
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: have returned from their bye week. It's Colts and Chiefs

860
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend at Arrowhead again Patrick Mahomes. The

861
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: only team he has yet to beat in the regular

862
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: season in his NFL career would be the Inannapolis Colts

863
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan Jacobe Bursett with a win over Mahomes. Quite

864
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: the stat there. As we head into Sunday again, one

865
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Speaker 1: o'clock from Aaron to talk more about it. He is

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Speaker 1: a cover of the Colts and does great great work

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Speaker 1: in his latest on Daniel Jones the Little Peyton Manny connection.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to here. He is Stephen Holder from ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Steven I had to rub the a couple times yesterday

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Speaker 1: and squint just a little harder and said, boy, I

871
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Speaker 1: know we've talked a lot about ESPN lately and it's availability,

872
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: but I swear my TV is showing me Steven Holder

873
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Speaker 1: and Jeff Saturday in a picture and picture did I

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Speaker 1: see correctly yesterday?

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Speaker 5: I believe you did.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I mean we're tight. I don't know what you're talking about,

878
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Speaker 5: Like we are basically bff.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 5: I love Jeff jeffs Jeff is great at TV in

881
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 5: fact like he's he's really good at it, really great

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Speaker 5: and natural.

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Speaker 7: He was.

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Speaker 1: Mister Holder great at TV. What about everything else?

885
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Speaker 5: Hey, listen, listen, that is my coworker. Okay, you know look,

886
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 5: I mean listen. We all know this. When when you

887
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Speaker 5: are you have a reporter slash subject relationship, it gets testy.

888
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 5: So we got testy at times. And I think that's healthy,

889
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: you know, because if if we're always all nice all

890
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Speaker 5: the time, then what are we even doing?

891
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Speaker 2: Right?

892
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Speaker 5: So that that was just a reality of it, But

893
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Speaker 5: that's in the rearview mirror, and yeah, I think we're

894
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Speaker 5: all where we're supposed to be now, doing what we're

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Speaker 5: supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 1: I apologize for going down this path. I really don't

897
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Speaker 1: want to, but it's kind of where my brain is

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Speaker 1: at right now. We'll get to colts and Chiefs in

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Speaker 1: just a second. But in all seriousness, have you ever

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Speaker 1: chatted with Jeff post interim coaching career about him wanting

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Speaker 1: to try to get into coaching again. I mean, obviously

902
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Speaker 1: he coached high school before this, or do you think

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Speaker 1: TV will be kind of his calling card here moving forward?

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Speaker 5: It's a good question. I have not had that conversation

905
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Speaker 5: with him, and I actually wonder now that you mention it,

906
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Speaker 5: I don't know. I do know that well we all

907
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Speaker 5: know frankly, that that coaching was something that was of

908
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Speaker 5: interest to him.

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: He was ever ready to maybe make the commitment until

911
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 5: Jim Ers personally called him and gave him that opportunity,

912
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Speaker 5: you know, just sort of a you know, put him

913
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Speaker 5: on the spot. That was a little bit of a

914
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Speaker 5: unique situation, a super unique situation, obviously, But I think

915
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Speaker 5: coaching was always an interest to him, like he you know,

916
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Speaker 5: we know he had conversations about it with the Colts

917
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Speaker 5: in the past. He just never really pulled the trigger.

918
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Speaker 5: I would say this without having talked to him about it.

919
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 5: All I can say is that I do think that

920
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Speaker 5: the experience as an interim coach was probably eye opening

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Speaker 5: for him in terms of what the job requires. It's

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Speaker 5: never ending, Okay, the hours are hard, they're long. I mean,

923
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Speaker 5: Shaan Styke and Allan. That guy doesn't sleep. Okay, he

924
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Speaker 5: really doesn't. I don't know how he does it, but

925
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Speaker 5: he doesn't sleep. And I think that's a reality that's

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Speaker 5: really hard to grasp until you actually do the job.

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Speaker 5: And I've had this conversation with like Reggie Wayne who

928
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Speaker 5: went from being a player to coach, and nothing can

929
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Speaker 5: prepare you for it, to be completely honest.

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Speaker 4: Well, all I know is you need to be asking

931
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Speaker 4: the real question next time you see Jeff Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what we need from you at ESPN, you

933
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Speaker 1: and your big time reporting.

934
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Speaker 4: But jokes aside, I thought you had a fantastic piece

935
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Speaker 4: recently on Daniel Jones in a relationship with David Cutcliffe,

936
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Speaker 4: his former coach at Duke. So for those who haven't

937
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Speaker 4: read the story, I encourage you all to read it

938
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Speaker 4: now during the show, of course, at ten on one am.

939
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Speaker 4: But what kind of did you glean from those conversations

940
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Speaker 4: about how Daniel Jones is wired? Because reading it myself,

941
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Speaker 4: I felt like that kind of peel back some layers

942
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Speaker 4: that Daniel himself isn't quite willing to share.

943
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Speaker 5: Are you saying that Daniel Jones is not loquacious and

944
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Speaker 5: great insight in his interviews?

945
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Speaker 1: Look at Miami education, what a word look.

946
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Speaker 5: In private school? Baby? I would say, yeah, I think

947
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Speaker 5: I agree with that. I think that that's why we

948
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Speaker 5: do these kinds of these kind of stories right, because

949
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Speaker 5: they give more insight, particularly when you're dealing with someone

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Speaker 5: like Daniel, who I love Daniel, like, I think he's

951
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Speaker 5: a great human being, but like he is, so he

952
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 5: is right, He's not going to be expansive and he's

953
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Speaker 5: not going to give you a lot of insight into

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Speaker 5: what's inside him. But I think what Coach Cliff did

955
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Speaker 5: was really I think zero in on the fact that, like,

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Speaker 5: he has the emotions that you would anticipate from a

957
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Speaker 5: guy who's been through ups and downs like he has.

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Speaker 2: And he said to.

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Speaker 5: Me, he said, look, I would never share the conversations

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Speaker 5: that we had when he was in New York, but

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Speaker 5: he said, but you can probably imagine, you know. So

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Speaker 5: I think that was his way of saying, like that.

963
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Speaker 2: Was really hard. It was really hard.

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Speaker 5: And despite all the money he was making, and he

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Speaker 5: was making plenty of money, he was the first round pick,

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Speaker 5: he got an extension. Hey, his bank account is doing great.

967
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Speaker 5: But that I think doesn't necessarily eliminate whatever emotions experience

968
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Speaker 5: right when you are being ridiculed and criticized and struggling

969
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 5: to achieve success when some of it's maybe not all

970
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Speaker 5: your fault. And I think this season is shedding more

971
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Speaker 5: light on that Frankly and so anyway, he also said

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Speaker 5: Coach Cutcliffe said that he emphasized that Daniel is really

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Speaker 5: really happy right now and that he loves it here.

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Speaker 5: So our future and the Colts working things out with

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Speaker 5: Daniel for the long term, but this is a good

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Speaker 5: place for him and I think he knows it. And

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Speaker 5: he also Cutcliffe had really high marks for Shane Stikeen

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Speaker 5: and Jim Bob Cooter, who he's just a really big

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Speaker 5: fans of. So those were some of the takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Steven Holder ESPN where you can find his work. Steven,

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Speaker 1: You've been on quite the run, if I must say so,

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Speaker 1: lately with some of your pieces. I would add the

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Speaker 1: Carli Ers Gordon piece a few weeks back was really

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Speaker 1: really good for maybe our audience that might have missed it.

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Speaker 1: A favorite anecdote or two is you made your way

986
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Speaker 1: around the locker room really got several different stories from

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Speaker 1: players in regards to Carly's presence around the organization.

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00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 5: Well, I think the one funny thing was Michael Pittman Junior,

989
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 5: who he is the antithesis of Daniel Jones right. He

990
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Speaker 5: tells you everything, which I love. I mean, that is

991
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Speaker 5: my guy. Like Michael Pittman is unbelievable. And he said,

992
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: he said, you know, when I was a rookie, I

993
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Speaker 5: was sitting in the meeting room, in the wide receiver

994
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Speaker 5: meeting room, and He's like, there'd be this lady in

995
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Speaker 5: the back of the room every day, and I just

996
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 5: started wondering one day.

997
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: Like, who the hell is she?

998
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 5: And he said he asked one day, like a month in, like, Hey,

999
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 5: who's that lady in the back of the room. And

1000
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 5: they're like, yeah, that's the owner's daughter. And he was like, oh,

1001
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 5: I better sit up straight. But what he emphasized is

1002
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Speaker 5: that she never intervened or interrupted, I should say, and

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Speaker 5: her role was completely to be an observer. And that's

1004
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Speaker 5: the one thing that I think everybody phasize that we

1005
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 5: understand this a little more locally than nationally, but nationally

1006
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Speaker 5: people are just becoming aware of the earth a sisters,

1007
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Speaker 5: and seeing Carly on the sideline is really drawing for

1008
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Speaker 5: some people. I've heard from people in the league who

1009
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Speaker 5: are like, why are you defending this? This is crazy,

1010
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 5: And I've actually said to them, look, I get it,

1011
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 5: and some years ago I probably would have felt the

1012
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 5: same about you felt the same as they do. Right

1013
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 5: Having this owner on the sideline, like for who for what?

1014
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 5: But once you a understand her position and why she's

1015
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 5: doing it, and then also see that they are not

1016
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Speaker 5: phased by it, it very clearly is is more than

1017
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Speaker 5: just words. I know they say they're not phased by it,

1018
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 5: but I think you can see it right. There's there's

1019
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Speaker 5: a real relationship between Carly and people in the organization.

1020
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Speaker 5: They don't feel threatened by her presence there, and it's

1021
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Speaker 5: because of the way she handles it and handles herself,

1022
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Speaker 5: and so it really is about just understanding and getting

1023
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Speaker 5: as much as much background as possible. That is how

1024
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Speaker 5: you're going to make good decisions based on what she

1025
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Speaker 5: says and what she believes. So we'll see in the

1026
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Speaker 5: long term if this works. But I don't think there's

1027
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Speaker 5: anything wrong with it. I think she makes very good points,

1028
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Speaker 5: and if they don't have a problem with it, then

1029
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Speaker 5: I don't think we should either.

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Speaker 1: Again, Steven holders with us here on the Payless Slickers

1031
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Speaker 1: hotline Colts and Chiefs coming up on Sunday afternoon. Steven

1032
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Speaker 1: James shared with us a couple of numbers that he

1033
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Speaker 1: found interesting about the Colts at this point of the season. Yesterday,

1034
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Speaker 1: and one of them was the blitz rate from lou

1035
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Speaker 1: and Rimo. James, you said twenty two point seven, Is

1036
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: that right? Yes, twenty two point seven this year.

1037
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Speaker 4: I believe last year it was at seventeen point five,

1038
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Speaker 4: which was thirtieth in the league. Now they're up to

1039
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Speaker 4: about fifteenth.

1040
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Speaker 1: So definitely an uptick here in the blitzing percentage with

1041
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Speaker 1: the Forest Buckner out and Sauce Gardner slash Mooney ward

1042
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: potentially in how do you expect that number to shift,

1043
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: if at all here moving forward?

1044
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Speaker 5: So that is a good question. I actually I don't

1045
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Speaker 5: have numbers to back this up per se, but but

1046
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Speaker 5: just my recollection from I would say the first couple

1047
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Speaker 5: of weeks of the season when uh, when, well, I

1048
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Speaker 5: guess maybe week one even where they had they had

1049
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 5: their their full compliment or they kind of did. I

1050
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Speaker 5: guess they still had. They still had they still were

1051
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Speaker 5: missing a couple of bodies, but you know they had

1052
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Speaker 5: Kennie Moore. Mooney was out there.

1053
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Speaker 1: He was more.

1054
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Speaker 5: Aggressive I thought in the blitz in the in the

1055
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Speaker 5: blitz calling early on, and then once they had more

1056
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 5: attrition at that position, I think you started to see

1057
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 5: him pull back I have not seen it as much.

1058
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 5: I think in those like I don't know that maybe

1059
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 5: that second month of the season, I thought you started

1060
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 5: to see him really pull back, and I do think

1061
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Speaker 5: that it could go the other way now, I really do,

1062
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Speaker 5: and I think you're gonna start to see, you know,

1063
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 5: that mad scientists maybe emerge a little more, and it

1064
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 5: could be this weekend, right, I mean, he's he's certainly

1065
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 5: had the answers against Mahomes in the past, you know,

1066
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Speaker 5: can he do it again?

1067
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Speaker 2: We'll see.

1068
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Speaker 5: I do think that's that's a little bit of a

1069
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Speaker 5: subplot here, because you're gonna have to account for the

1070
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 5: loss of the Forrest Buckner. I don't care if you

1071
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 5: have Sauce Gardner or Dion Sanders in his prime, right,

1072
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 5: I mean, that is a huge loss. We can't pretend

1073
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 5: that it's not and they're gonna have to confront that.

1074
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Speaker 5: So I expect lou Anroumo to pull out all the

1075
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 5: stops here. I think this is one of those games

1076
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Speaker 5: where it's like he's gonna do what he has to

1077
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Speaker 5: do and they may take some chances in this game

1078
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Speaker 5: that maybe we haven't seen from him. So I'm very

1079
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Speaker 5: excited to see what his game plan looks like, and

1080
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 5: what wrinkles he might bring this week?

1081
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 4: Can we have Steven Holder, Colt's esper reporter joining us

1082
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 4: only pay less lookers hotline, Stephen, we've seen Alec Pierce

1083
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: take another jump this year. How much money is this

1084
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 4: man going to get on the open market? And should

1085
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: the Colts just prepare to break open the bank? As

1086
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: Michael Pittman Junior told us a couple of days ago.

1087
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 5: He's getting a bag, a humongous bag. Okay, I'm telling

1088
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 5: you now, listen, I guess we got to look at

1089
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 5: what the market. It looks like right now. But the

1090
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 5: cap goes up every year. The wide receiver market has exploded,

1091
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 5: I think, faster than just about any position other than quarterback.

1092
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 5: I don't even know what else. Maybe that's it, I'm thinking. So, yeah,

1093
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 5: he's gonna do very well, make no mistake. And yes,

1094
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 5: I think the Colts have maybe started to come to

1095
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 5: terms with what is happening here and this is what

1096
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 5: it is Alec Pearce. On some days it looks like

1097
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 5: they're number one receiver, Okay, And I know that sounds

1098
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 5: like a bold statement when the other guy's making a

1099
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,959
Speaker 5: lot of money and gets a lot of targets talking

1100
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 5: about Pittman here or even Tyler Warren for that matter.

1101
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 5: But I'm just telling you I think he has been

1102
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 5: I think he's been their best receiver this year. I mean,

1103
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 5: am I crazy? I don't think I'm Yeah, I think

1104
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 5: he's been their best receiver. So all right, you want

1105
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 5: to let that guy walk. I'm telling you, I mean, listen,

1106
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 5: if they if they do, he's having a tryout this

1107
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 5: weekend for the Kansas City Chiefs something, you know. So

1108
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 5: that's basically what this is going to be, a Chiefs

1109
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 5: workout for Alex Pierce. So I would I would suggest

1110
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 5: that the Colts try to get something done immediately after

1111
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 5: the season, if not sooner.

1112
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: Sending a chill down Colts fans spines here on this window.

1113
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 5: You want to go face that, you want to go

1114
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 5: face that for the next five years? Okay? Good luck? Yeah,

1115
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 5: And I would actually Mahomes and Alex Piris, good luck

1116
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: with that.

1117
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: Definitely what you've said. I I think he's been the

1118
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: number one and honestly, he possesses the hardest trait to replace,

1119
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, which is the deep ball element, which

1120
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: I think is critical when you're trying to assess, all right,

1121
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: are you resigning guys? How do you kind of build

1122
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: moving forward again? Colts and Chiefs back at it here

1123
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: coming up, or should say Colts back to practice coming up.

1124
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: We'll see about the status of Mooney Ward and Steven's

1125
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: latest David Cutcliffe and Daniel Jones a great read over

1126
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: on ESPN. Steven will see in a few hours. Man,

1127
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: I'll get you guys at Steven Holder right there, pay

1128
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: Less Slickers hot line. That number that you mentioned yesterday

1129
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: late in the show, James at the blitz rate. I

1130
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: think I don't necessarily label this weekend as necessarily a

1131
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: great indicator of what is to come with how the

1132
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: Colts will handle their pass rush, because I think when

1133
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: you face Patrick Mahomes a la Lamar Jackson, a la

1134
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, it's almost a separate file in the cabinet

1135
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: of like, let's pick out the Mahomes file. Yeah, it's

1136
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: just not applicable to every single quarterback you face. No,

1137
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: it's not. But that blitz rate number, and I guess

1138
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: talking specifically about Mahomes this week, you know what I

1139
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: was sharing with you at kind of in that seven

1140
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: o'clock hour, if you look at the lou Anaruma history

1141
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: against Patrick Mahomes, and again there is winning success against it.

1142
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: A lot of it though, is rooted in a three

1143
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: to four man pass rush getting home in seven or eight,

1144
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: making Mahomes hold onto it and hold onto it and

1145
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: hold on to it and not really find anything. Are

1146
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: the Colts equipped right now to do that, because personnel wise,

1147
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: I almost think of it of the reverse. You trust

1148
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: your corners now on an island, and you need to

1149
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: bring more to alleviate no to Forest Buckner like dropping

1150
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Laoutu Latsu and coverage has worked this season a time

1151
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: or two. But if you drop your best pass rusher

1152
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: now in coverage, what does the three and four man

1153
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: pass rusher look like? Is Mahomes just going to sit

1154
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: there and pad it for six seconds and eventually someone's

1155
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: going to break free. I think that's a really interesting

1156
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: element to Sunday.

1157
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely and then knowing just the people he has on

1158
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 4: the other side, he's on the ball too, So you

1159
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 4: don't want to give a guy Rashid Rice six seven

1160
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 4: seconds to get open because he will. Travis Kelce, for

1161
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: as old as he is, is still first Battle of

1162
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer and probably a top ten tight end

1163
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 4: in the league right now today. You don't want to

1164
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 4: give him more opportunities to create plays, and we hear

1165
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 4: it often from coaches, and I'm sure lu Arumo feels

1166
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 4: the same way. When you allow Patrick Mahomes to get

1167
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 4: to some of the off platform, off schedule stuff, that's

1168
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: when he really hurts you and gashes you. Yes, I

1169
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: think he's one of the best players when it comes

1170
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,479
Speaker 4: to fundamentals in the pocket, but we all know what

1171
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 4: makes Patrick Mahomes different is the ability to extend plays

1172
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 4: and deliver when you're kind of up against the clock

1173
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 4: as far as getting him to the ground or getting

1174
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: himTo the ball away. So I am very curious to

1175
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 4: see again, how does the absence of DeForest Buckner get

1176
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 4: absorbed to some degree, because, like you said, you can't

1177
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: completely solve that because he's such a great player.

1178
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: And also I've been eyeing it all week.

1179
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 4: If Shavarius mooney Ward is out there, how much is

1180
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 4: that offset some of that absence, because then you would

1181
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 4: have in theory to lock down corns on your outside.

1182
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: Thirteen targets nine catches for Travis Kelcey last week, so

1183
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: I know a lot of talk about is this it

1184
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: for Kelsey? I know he did have one big drop

1185
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: last week, but from a production standpoint, kind of back

1186
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: to normal Kelsey there and how much Mahomes looked his

1187
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: way against Denver. All Right, Mark Dyke and let's check

1188
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: it out the.

1189
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 6: Morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh seven five.

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00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: Tonight's inside of gamebridge Field House. I never thought Pacers

1191
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: Hornets would be a game I would circle on the calendar.

1192
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: But if not tonight when the Pacers are playing the

1193
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: four win Hornets, uh no, Brandon Miller for Charlotte James.

1194
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: The spread is one point here. Oh boy, I'm already

1195
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: sweating thinking about it.

1196
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: It is time for Mathering to drop a fifty ball.

1197
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: Let's get the win. Why do I feel like that's

1198
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: necessary for the Pacers to get a win?

1199
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 4: It might be, but they feel like with the green lie,

1200
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,959
Speaker 4: he's going to be given. Get the shots up, brother,

1201
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 4: get paid, and get a win.

1202
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: Again for Charlotte. It's been a lot of young guys.

1203
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: I believe LaMelo ball is back healthy. Brandon Miller is

1204
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: supposed to return at some point here soon. I don't

1205
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: believe it's today. I probably double check that, but again.

1206
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: The Pacers back inside of Gaybridge Field House as they

1207
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: take on the Charlotte Hornet. College football Playoff rankings from

1208
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: last night, Indiana holds in that number two spot, No

1209
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: real surprise really with the top four Ohio State is one,

1210
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: Indiana is two, Texas A and M is three in

1211
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: Ohio's or excuse me, and Georgia is for who would

1212
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: you rank right now as the second best team in

1213
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: college football? If you had a bet on the second

1214
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 1: to Ohio State's a favorite twins at all? Who would

1215
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: you say is too? Is it Indiana? Or do you

1216
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: look at the Georgia Bulldogs there for I'm gonna go Indiana.

1217
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 4: Oh it's a Homer pick, but I feel like they've

1218
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 4: they got they got a really big marque went on

1219
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 4: there on their resume winning at Oregon. They've handled business

1220
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 4: with blowouts, they've handled business in close games, They've won

1221
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 4: a variety of different ways, and they have a quarterback

1222
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: I think that can take them to the Promised Land.

1223
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: So I'd lean towards you give them numb respect. If

1224
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: the Seeds held up with the current bracket that we

1225
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: saw last night, Oregon could be the second round opponent

1226
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: there for Indiana. So again they get a buy into

1227
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: the quarter final. They would take on the winner of

1228
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: Alabama Oregon. So think about this our first round matchups

1229
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: that we would get with last night's bracket. You have

1230
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: Alabama at Oregon and Notre Dame at Oklahoma. Inject that

1231
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: into your veins.

1232
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 4: This is the time of year where in a few

1233
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 4: weeks it'll get very fun because every game is gonna

1234
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: feel like everything.

1235
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: Well, probably get a little bit more into this Notre

1236
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: Dame Miami discussion. My probably should, as Steven Holder about

1237
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: it there, if the head to head for Miami in

1238
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: week one, should it carry more weight than it currently

1239
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: does with both teams having two losses. I'll try out

1240
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: to be biased whatsoever when that discussion. It comes up

1241
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: college basketball as we look ahead to tomorrow, Purdue in Indiana,

1242
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: both back in action, two very different opponents, two very

1243
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: different locations. Indiana in Bloomington taking on Lyndon Wood. We

1244
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: discovered that is in Saint Louis. Is that right, Mark,

1245
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: that's what you told me. I'm believing you did you

1246
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: lie to us? Should I get a map out? I

1247
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: think it is Saint Charles. I think I looked it

1248
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: up Okay, I think I have some distant cousins. Maybe

1249
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: they are Mohamas. They've got Memphis. Is that Penny Hardaway?

1250
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: Is he still coaching Memphis? I believe so. Penny Hardaway

1251
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: Hardaway coaching the Tigers down there. So produing a four

1252
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: team bracket in the Bahamas. If they win, they could

1253
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: take on Texas Tech. Pretty quality team for a neutral

1254
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: site game here early in the season. IU Indie loses

1255
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: last night to Charleston Southern. They put up a million points,

1256
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: but they also gave up a million points and that

1257
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: one and James, I know you had some eyes on

1258
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: the Daybron James's season debut last night. I did eleven points, twelve.

1259
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: Assists, just an ageless wonder. I was thinking to myself,

1260
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 4: if this is Lebron soon to be forty one year

1261
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 4: old Lebron at this age, he is quite the athlete.

1262
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 4: So I've enjoyed it. And like I said, whether it's Lebron,

1263
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 4: Steph Curry, Kevin Urant, sign me up because I don't

1264
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 4: have much longer of watching my favorite guys from this

1265
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 4: era basketball.

1266
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: You know, mortality is what you're thinking.

1267
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 4: You're saying, Yeah, basically, I mean it's crazy that again,

1268
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 4: it's get to the point now though with some of

1269
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 4: these athletes, Kevin and Mark, they pushed the limits because

1270
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 4: as much as we talk about Lebron being the old guy,

1271
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 4: Steph Curry is not young. I want to say he

1272
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 4: might be in like year seventeen now and he's thirty

1273
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 4: seven and he's scoring forty, you know, on the regular.

1274
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 4: It feels like same thing with Kevin Durant. He had

1275
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 4: thirty five the other night, and I'm like, when are

1276
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 4: you guys ever going to drop off? And will it

1277
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 4: just be a choice, like you know what, I'm just

1278
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 4: done playing, And I do kind of respect the guys

1279
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 4: who stick around long enough to still be good. I

1280
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 4: don't want to see Lebron, Steph or Katie stick around

1281
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 4: so long where they can go out there. But the

1282
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 4: NBA players, but they're no longer stars.

1283
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: Thank you. Joel Erickson, he does confirm Lyndon Wood in

1284
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: Saint Charles here. How the hell does Joel Rickson know

1285
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: that he knows a lot of things. Not give me

1286
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: credit for that. I'm not question his intelligence, but that's

1287
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: like I.

1288
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Speaker 4: Told you, whenever I'm in a foreign country, I just

1289
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 4: figure out. Joel isn't know what I'm saying to.

1290
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: Have a double a affiliate with the Brewers, affiliated with

1291
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: somehow with want to hear that I don't know about.

1292
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: We'll see Joel. It's been a while st I've seen

1293
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: Joel'll see him up coming here. As the Colts get

1294
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: back to practice a I would say a long list

1295
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: of practice squad moves for the Colts yesterday. A couple

1296
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: of them have some local or past ties with the team.

1297
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: We will share that on the other side, and much

1298
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: more on the Pacers as they get ready to take

1299
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: on the Hornets in a game they need to have tonight.

1300
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: Inside of Gamebridge Fieldhouse, the Kansas City perspective with Nate

1301
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: Taylor coming up at nine thirty. This is a fan

1302
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: morning show on a window. We'll get the Kansas City

1303
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: side of It's here in an hour. Nate Taylor, are

1304
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: you gonna join us here? Covers the Chiefs used to

1305
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: cover the Pacers actually here for the Indianapolis Star. Are

1306
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: the Chiefs bad or are they just bad in one

1307
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: score games? James, that's a great question.

1308
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 4: I think they're just bad in one score games, and

1309
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 4: it's kind of the inverse of what we saw last

1310
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 4: year where we all knew they were kind of flawed,

1311
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 4: but they won seemingly every one score game.

1312
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes it was like, is this voodoo right? We've said

1313
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: it quite often, the Chiefs They're inevitable. Yeah, Now it

1314
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: just seems like a little chink in the armor.

1315
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the inevitable nature of the NFL

1316
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 4: is finally getting them where You're not gonna win every

1317
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 4: single one score game. You're not gonna be supremely healthy

1318
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 4: throughout this whole thing.

1319
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: Every third and six to Kelsey to ice the game, Yeah,

1320
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: every defensive passenger. I was gonna say, penalties go your way. Yeah.

1321
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 4: So they feel vulnerable, and boy, if the Colts can

1322
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 4: knock them off come Sunday, that would really put them

1323
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 4: on the ropes for let alone trying to win their

1324
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 4: division for I think a tenth straight time whatever that is,

1325
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 4: just getting into the dance.

1326
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: Would that be their signature winn of the season if

1327
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: they knock off the Chiefs at Arrowhead?

1328
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

1329
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: Easily, I think so.

1330
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1331
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 4: I mean, what else have you even been in the

1332
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 4: game other like signature wins? I know Chargers Chargers was

1333
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 4: a good win at the time, Charge of tapered off

1334
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 4: a little bit since then.

1335
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: Broncos. Yeah, I guess I kind of. I feel like

1336
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: my brain chuck up. The Broncos is a loss. I know,

1337
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: there's the leverage. How you win it.

1338
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 4: I don't want to get too technical, like winning it

1339
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 4: no matter how you do it matters.

1340
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: But how you do it. I totally forgot about the Bronce.

1341
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 4: I think could speak to that because the Broncos one

1342
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 4: still feels like oh man, and they got bailed out

1343
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 4: and that was no fault of their own.

1344
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: Broncos made a penalty, VE called it correctly. You get

1345
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: rewarded for that.

1346
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 4: But if you go to the Chiefs and without all

1347
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: the weirdness of an end of game leverage penalty and

1348
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: you still win the game. Yeah, I think this is

1349
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 4: their biggest most signature win, although I will say the

1350
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 4: most exciting right now has to be Berlint.

1351
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would say it would still be this one

1352
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: mark even looking back on the Denver. You know, there's

1353
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: just something about Week two at home. It's different than

1354
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: Week twelve on the road. The class of the AFC

1355
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: for the last decade.

1356
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you kind of know the landscape of the

1357
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 4: NFL right right, The more weight you know, there's just

1358
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 4: more frankly on the line.

1359
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 3: Let me rephrase it. Would it be the signature win

1360
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 3: when the season plays out? Like if they got to

1361
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 3: win on Sunday, would that be the signature win on

1362
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 3: the season.

1363
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Well, I thought James said it well earlier. Psychologically, this

1364
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: is probably the one that the most talking heads would

1365
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: speak on. But if you really want to get into

1366
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty of standings and playoff chances and winning

1367
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: your first division title since twenty fourteen, point to Houston

1368
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: next week, point to Jacksonville the week after that, point

1369
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: to the last two games of the season. Isn't it?

1370
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: Is it Jacksonville Houston the last two of the season. Yeah,

1371
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville at Houston. I mean those could carry massive weight.

1372
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: So psychologically, yes, Mark, potentially, But I think from a

1373
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: pure standing standpoint, especially a week seventeen or eighteen, you

1374
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: could have one of those games like we've had in

1375
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: recent years, where you know everything's on the line or

1376
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: a massive amount is that play here to get your

1377
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: first home game in eleven years.

1378
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: Nationally, I could see the Chiefs game being the talking point. Locally,

1379
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 3: I think it would be one of the division games,

1380
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 3: especially at Jacksonville.

1381
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: If you finally get that, I.

1382
01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 4: Was gonna say, that is your marquee matchup. Yeah, go

1383
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 4: down there and win in Duval County and for some reason,

1384
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 4: get that stench off your back.

1385
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: That's the fly in the house you can't get. Yeah,

1386
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: do you go swater or do you do you just

1387
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: roll up the magazine?

1388
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 3: Swater or a towel. I was gonna say, I probably

1389
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 3: a towel guy, because I'm starting.

1390
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: Aud you start, you know, laughs, owing it up.

1391
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have a swater and I still don't

1392
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 4: have a magazine at the house. Magazines, I feel like

1393
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 4: I only see it like places I don't want to be,

1394
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 4: the Dennis office, the doctor's office.

1395
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: I still can't believe you had a dinnist appointment at

1396
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: five o'clock. I got to get my teeth cleaned. No cavities.

1397
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: By the way, you might, as I lost twice a day,

1398
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: might as well put all the crowns in my teeth. Anyways,

1399
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 1: if you have a dnis appointment at five o'clock. Uh,

1400
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: James Boyd, you have always shared with us. Uh, the

1401
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: high road is for losers. I think it is a

1402
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: direct quote from you. Yes, too much traffic too much

1403
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: traffic on the high road. Are you a fan of

1404
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: like second person always gets caught? Are you one of

1405
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: the those people? You know, the first act we see

1406
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: and then so the second person should retaliate, but you're

1407
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: likely gonna get caught.

1408
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you should absolutely retaliate. And I think

1409
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 4: I know where you're going with this.

1410
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: Yesterday we again we shared yesterday in the show, and

1411
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: the appeal for Jamaar Chase happened last night and was denied.

1412
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: So Jamar Chase indeed will be suspended for the Bengals

1413
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: game against Tell you how this went upcoming here, and

1414
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: I'll just quickly note that is not a good thing

1415
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: for the Colts, because you want the Patriots to lose.

1416
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: Given their record right now and Jamar Chase not playing

1417
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: against them, I think it doesn't help their chances. But

1418
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: go ahead.

1419
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jamar Chase said, I was just talking very loudly.

1420
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to spit on him. I actually was

1421
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 4: just you know, trying to get my words out, and

1422
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 4: they told him, kick Rocks, you're still suspended. I honestly

1423
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 4: think he should be suspended another game for even having

1424
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 4: the audacity to appeal it.

1425
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: He d' another, but waste their time.

1426
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 4: I feel like they just showed up on some zoom

1427
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 4: call and like through a high on, you know, and

1428
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 4: got the basketball sorts underneath, and you're like, all right,

1429
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 4: we got a next case. Jamar Chase, Yeah he did that. Absolutely,

1430
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 4: he's wasting our time. Get him out of here. And

1431
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 4: they moved on.

1432
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 1: So Jamar Chase spits on Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey goes punch,

1433
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: gets tossed. Yes, and now, in typical fashion, you know,

1434
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: the head coach gets asked about that. And Mike Tomlin's

1435
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: answer very blunts, very honest, and I think heavily endorsed

1436
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: by James Boyd.

1437
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 8: You know, I have no messages. Someone spits in your face,

1438
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 8: do what comes natural?

1439
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: Again, Mike Tomlin here, you know I.

1440
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 8: Have no messages. Someone spits in your face, do what

1441
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 8: comes natural?

1442
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: I have no message. If someone spits in your face,

1443
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: do what comes natural. That's a coach you can play for,

1444
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: right there is what you're saying.

1445
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I feel like as a man, as a woman

1446
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 4: as well, you can't let nobody spit on you and

1447
01:11:59,040 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 4: you just don't react.

1448
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: I know my parents had this rule growing up when

1449
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: I was a kid. I never followed it.

1450
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 4: It was always like, you know, if somebody does something

1451
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 4: to you in school, they hit you or whatever, you

1452
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 4: tell the teacher they do it, take the high rope.

1453
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 4: You do it once or twice. The third time you

1454
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 4: can let them have it. I was always the first

1455
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 4: time type of kid. Once I tried, a couple people

1456
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 4: tried to punk me. I'm swinging.

1457
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there's ever been a truer statement

1458
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: from an NFL head coach than that from Mike Tomlin.

1459
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it, you gotta swing. You just try

1460
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,959
Speaker 4: to disrespect me to the nth degree. And honestly, there's.

1461
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: No oh, you gotta be the bigger. No, you gotta

1462
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: think about your you know, team tonight's on the field.

1463
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: A fifteen yard penalty. No one's worth a fifteen yard penalty.

1464
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: Isn't that one of the famous quotes out there from coaches.

1465
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true, but not with spec Yeah, not

1466
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: in this case. This is an extenuating circumstance. Final drive

1467
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, Steelers make it. They're taking on

1468
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,959
Speaker 1: Mark's Bears. How about that Mark's Bears against the Steelers

1469
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Caleb Williams scrambles on a third down,

1470
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: picks it up, he does the little first down celebration,

1471
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: and he goes hawk two on TJ Watt.

1472
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 3: Well, that's that that Caleb Williams would never do that.

1473
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 3: He's a respectable young man.

1474
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: It's Mike Tomlin saying in the postgame press conference after

1475
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl as he loses TJ Watt in the

1476
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 1: final drive of the game, as he needs one stop

1477
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: and the Bears go on to Kyro Santos a game

1478
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: winning field goal. Is he still saying that quote, You

1479
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: got to get in that hawk, dude.

1480
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's a Super Bowl we're talking about.

1481
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I will say that the land I'm

1482
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 3: gonna get to break.

1483
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 4: I am annoyed when people try to dismiss something like that,

1484
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 4: Like I've seen all the Bengals, Riders, people who covered

1485
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase for years going back to his college day. Oh,

1486
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 4: we shouldn't judge him based off this one act. Yes,

1487
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 4: we absolutely should. There are some acts that I don't

1488
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 4: care what you did previously. I'm going to remember you

1489
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 4: for that. Sorry you did it. That's one of them.

1490
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: Yes, spitting is an indefensible offence. Yeah, I don't want

1491
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: to hear well.

1492
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 4: Actually he was great with the Boys and Girls Club

1493
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 4: two weeks ago.

1494
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't care. I hate like I hate when like

1495
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: Max Bowen does a little you know, like that. Oh,

1496
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: I just like, dude, stop. It just pisses me off.

1497
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: And maybe that's too whatever. I need to grow up

1498
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: and not be as such a mean parent. But that

1499
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: gosh almost cussed, that bleep just pisses me off. That's

1500
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: how my parents were let it out. KB. How many

1501
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: Indian Hoosiers could get drafted this year. We'll share that

1502
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: upcoming in a few much more. Colts get back to

1503
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: practice today. What does the schedule look like the rest

1504
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: of the season. A couple of interesting practice squad and

1505
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: moves with some local ties. We'll share that. On the

1506
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 1: other side, this is the Fan Morning show.

1507
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 8: You know, I have no message someone in your face.

1508
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 8: Google comes natural.

1509
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: Had to give him that houck dude and spent on

1510
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: that night Kevin bow and James Boyd and Mark Dyton

1511
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: with you here on this Wednesday morning. Colts back to

1512
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: practice here in a little bit. We'll see if Tavariusward

1513
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: indeed returns to action and plays It would be his

1514
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 1: first game back at Arrowhead, played for the Chiefs his

1515
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: first four seasons in the NFL. Remember when the Chiefs

1516
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: kind of used to be like Indiana West. I think

1517
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: Carson Steele is on their practice squad now they still

1518
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: have a couple of Indiana guys. Drew Tranquill, the Fort

1519
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: Wayne product, plays a key role for them defensively. George

1520
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: carloftis of course from West Lafayette and one of their

1521
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: better pass rushers. I think they had Peyton Hendershot at

1522
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: tight end there for a little bit there. They had

1523
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: several Indiana ties, that is true. I think Patrick Mahomes

1524
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: cares that he's never beaten the Colts in the radiar season. No,

1525
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: you really.

1526
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 4: Don't, I think on this week, yes, because he's a competitor,

1527
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 4: and if you're of the Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant mentality,

1528
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 4: you find any little thing to pull out to get

1529
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 4: that competitive edge. But no, in the grand scheme of things,

1530
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 4: I don't think he really cares. It's like a fun fact.

1531
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 4: But okay, the year you beat Patrick Mahomes, the last

1532
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 4: time you faced some wolf was in twenty twenty two.

1533
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 4: He won his third championship I believe or won a

1534
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 4: Super Bowl that year, So no, you don't think it.

1535
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, he has beaten the Colts in

1536
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs, just not in the regular season. Jacobe, Burssett

1537
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: and Matt.

1538
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 4: Will see and again, when you put it like that,

1539
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 4: it doesn't stain the same. You gotta be labeled to

1540
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 4: say I beat you down.

1541
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: You know how the NFL stats work, they're usually all breaking.

1542
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 4: That's also the same thing as with the NBA as well.

1543
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 4: So I mean, but you gotta be able to have

1544
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 4: like a little lou Anumo success against them where it's

1545
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 4: like I beat you three straight times.

1546
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: Well, whether it was regular season or the playoffs, that's

1547
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: what they could be going for regular season wise. Here

1548
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: on Sunday, I you know, let's think it back to

1549
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: when the Colts beat Kansas City in twenty nineteen Sunday

1550
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: Night football at Arrowhead. I was reminded of it. Furthermore, yesterday,

1551
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: the Colts made several practice squad moves, and James, I'm

1552
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: curious if any stood out to you, but I'll mention

1553
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: the name that definitely jumped off the page, and that

1554
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: was George Odam. I think Colts fans will probably recall

1555
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: his name on drafted free agent backend. I'm gonna guess

1556
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Was a great special teams player here hardly

1557
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: ever played defense, but one of the very few opportunities

1558
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: he got defensively was he started on Sunday Night football

1559
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs back in twenty nineteen and was great

1560
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: in that game. The Colts defense was outstanding in that contest.

1561
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack ran for about one hundred and thirty yards.

1562
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: They largely played keep away. You know, did the time

1563
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: of possession thing where they had the ball fifteen minutes

1564
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: more than Kansas City. They able to get that win.

1565
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: Odam ended up signing a big deal or a bigger deal,

1566
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: I should say with San Francisco played out there, made

1567
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: it to a Super Bowl. An elbow injury sidelined him

1568
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: this offseason. Seemingly he is now healthy and at thirty

1569
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 1: two years old, the Colts have brought back George Odum

1570
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: to their practice squad. So, you know, really the cult

1571
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: special teams James. Outside a few penalties, they've been very

1572
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: good lately over the last few weeks. Yeah, Coveragen return wise.

1573
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 4: Special teams coordinator Brian Mason certainly gives us all the

1574
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 4: details every week and their top ten in a number

1575
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 4: of categories.

1576
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, outside of extra points, they are doing a very

1577
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: nice job right now here.

1578
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 4: So George, if you didn't ask him the question you

1579
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 4: asked us, you should have asked Brian Mason, Hey.

1580
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: How do you feel? Bout man Gay? I asked him

1581
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: if Josh Downs wild still be the punk returner once

1582
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: Anthony Gould comes back. Is Josh Downs too risky for you?

1583
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

1584
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: I've got a few people reach out and say he's

1585
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: too risky.

1586
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,879
Speaker 4: Would I would think so, especially at his size, the stature,

1587
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 4: not saying this is going to be.

1588
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: There's some nice reward of that. He's had a few

1589
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: nice returns.

1590
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 4: He's also had a few blunders. I don't want to

1591
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 4: dismay those either. So I think if you're going risk

1592
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 4: versus reward, the reward is it don't matter. When we

1593
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 4: get the football on the field, our office can go

1594
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 4: down there and get a touchdown.

1595
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm leaning h any of these practice

1596
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: squad moves stand out to you. I think there was

1597
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: four of them right yesterday, which is a lot.

1598
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 4: I think the Chris Warmley addition, Again, this is the

1600
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 4: biggest name of that group that was brought back. As

1601
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 4: far as I think accomplishments in the league, George odom

1602
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,560
Speaker 4: is obviously the biggest name for the indie market. For

1603
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 4: Chris Warmley is a guy who's been around the NFL

1604
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 4: and plays defensive tackle. Could he be someone that you

1605
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 4: look at and say, how do you help us fill

1606
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 4: the gap without the Forest Buckter? And I'm not saying

1607
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 4: Chris Warmley will come in here and start. I think

1608
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 4: that deserves to go to Addie Tamwa out of Barray

1609
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 4: or Nevill Gallamore, someone of that nature, like they kind

1610
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 4: of did it in Berlin against the Falcons, but someone

1611
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 4: to kind of give you some reinsurance up front, some

1612
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 4: reinforcements up front. And also a guy who is not

1613
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 4: a strange to playing NFL games. He's been a veteran,

1614
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 4: been around the league from a third round pick in

1615
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,440
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. So he's someone that had caught my eye.

1616
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 1: And shout out to the Arabians and penalty heights. Eli Pancole,

1617
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: also signed yesterday by the Colts to their practice squad.

1618
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: Was originally an undrafted free agent of the Jags this offseason.

1619
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: Twenty five years old, played a duke, so he will

1620
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: get a practice squad spot. I think they still have

1621
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: coleman Owen and Laquon Treadill a lot of practice squad wideouts.

1622
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: Lakwan tread will forever keep him around. I don't know

1623
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: if that is. I don't know. When you see all

1624
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: these practice squad moves, James, I'm always curious, like is

1625
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: there more here or are they just reshuffling to reshuffle?

1626
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 4: There is part of me that thinks that, like, could

1627
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 4: we walk in a few hours today at the facility

1628
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 4: and Shane Stykin says, hey, Xyz is out for the

1629
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 4: foreseeable future or whatever, which in that case we would

1630
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 4: ask many more questions like wait, you didn't play last week?

1631
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 4: What happened during the bye? Somebody have too much fun?

1632
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 4: But until then, I think it's not nothing, but I

1633
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 4: don't want to make it too much of something.

1634
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 1: Mark. Do you like Tony Romo on the call Sunday?

1635
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: Are you a Romo guy? Not really?

1636
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 3: I think he's gotten better than he has been the

1637
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 3: last few seasons, but I could take it early, but

1638
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 3: I'm usually zoning out when he's talking. Usually I like

1639
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 3: Jim Nance a lot, love Jim Nance.

1640
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, who doesn't like Jim Nance? If you

1641
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 4: don't like Jim nantz, it's a character flaw.

1642
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 3: Tony Romo as far as like the player analysts, is

1643
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 3: he like two goods blows Johnsony?

1644
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: Is he too just like building up moments that aren't

1645
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: really real or.

1646
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just think there's just times of steps

1647
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 3: on your Yeah, he steps on Nance a lot to it,

1648
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 3: and times I'm just like this, times just Tony, just

1649
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 3: all right, pipe down. You're getting paid handsomely. You don't

1650
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: need to talk every other sentence. There is an art

1651
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 3: to it.

1652
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 4: There is certainly an art to it, because, for example,

1653
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: we do radio, so you have to talk every second.

1654
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 4: But there are times where I feel like Tony Romo

1655
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying this is an easy thing to do,

1656
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 4: but you can let the moment breathe a little bit

1657
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 4: more because you have the visual and.

1658
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 3: I think like when he was when like he was

1659
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 3: predicting plays out of the gate, like when he was

1660
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: fresh out of the game, people like, wow, like this

1661
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: is unbelievably he's calling, like he's calling exactly what's happening.

1662
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 3: And they kind of had a couple of years out

1663
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 3: of the League, and he kind of didn't do the

1664
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 3: homework and then he was just kind of like reacting

1665
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 3: to things instead of really providing any analyst analysis at all.

1666
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I'm looking forward to I really don't watch

1667
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: a lot of Roma. I'm actually looking forward to it

1668
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: because I hear so many opinions and probably most of

1669
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: them negative, frankly on him and this gutt better. Like

1670
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: the last time they did a Colt's game was a

1671
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: home game. Yeah, so obviously I didn't, you know, necessarily

1672
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: watch that. So for your road audience out there radio,

1673
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 1: it'll be Matt Taylor and Joe Writes. For your audience

1674
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: out there watching on TV, you will get nanton Romo

1675
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: for the first time in a couple of years. Much

1676
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: more on the other side, where the Pacers are at

1677
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: as they've got one that boy, I hate to call

1678
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: things on November nineteenth, I must win, but dear lord,

1679
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: it almost has that feel to it as well. And

1680
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: could we have a record in Bloomington when it comes

1681
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: to a little NFL talent as well. We'll hit on

1682
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 1: that upcoming at nine o'clock hour. Kevin Bowen, James Boyd,

1683
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: Kana City again. They all five losses, one score games,

1684
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: the polar opposite of really how they have ever been

1685
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: under Mahomes. They always pick up the third down, They

1686
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: always get the third down stop, Harrison Bucker always makes

1687
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 1: the field goal, and yet this year that has not

1688
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: gone their way. So we'll do that here. Coming up

1689
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: in about thirty. I've got some motivation for Rick Carlisle's

1690
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: bunch tonight.

1691
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 4: Well bring it on. Do you just play the brawl

1692
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 4: tape and say, hey, you go out there just kind

1693
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 4: of fight.

1694
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: Well, maybe the first fight the first thirty what is

1695
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 1: it forty six minutes of that game, whatever the Pacers

1696
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: had done at that point to build the lead before

1697
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: all hell broke loose. Thank you to Ben Wallace for

1698
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: that not leaving the floor in a timely fashion. They

1699
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: need to make Jeremiah Johnson work more. Make JJ work

1700
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: Moore on three.

1701
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 4: Sorry not to Coles. The Pacers sideline reporter has not

1702
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 4: been seen. Everybody to bring in sideline, make JJ work

1703
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 4: on three.

1704
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: JJ Wordy's great suits and everything, and unless you're watching

1705
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: pregame or post game, we don't get to see him again.

1706
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: JJ does when the Pacers have a halftime lead, he

1707
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: does a you know, walk off to the locker room

1708
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:21,600
Speaker 1: halftime interview when the Pacers win. He also does the

1709
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: end of game on court interview, so he's done one

1710
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: of those the end of game interviews this season. I

1711
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: believe they've only had three halftime leads. So how many

1712
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: games have they played so far? Mark? Are they won

1713
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: in thirteen? Is that right? One in twelve? One and twelve?

1714
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's say they're one in twelve. That's thirteen

1715
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: games they're one and thirteen? Are they one in thirteen?

1716
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: Fourteen games times two?

1717
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: Is what?

1718
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: Twenty eight? Yes? So twenty eight opportunities for JJ to

1719
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: work more, and the Pacers have only made him work

1720
01:24:56,040 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: for those twenty eight times. Make Jeremiah Johnson.

1721
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 4: Coasting on that paycheck right now, He's not been given

1722
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 4: the best opportunity there.

1723
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: Mark, great pregame stuff, great post game stuff, great end

1724
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: game when Kristen Aarry tosses to him. But I like

1725
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: when Jeremi Johnson's on my tube. I want to see

1726
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: the suit. So that's my Pacer motivation for tonight. Make

1727
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Johnson work more.

1728
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:30,480
Speaker 4: On three, I'm Jeremiah Johnson and improved this message.

1729
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: Transition D shot quality. Those are a couple of items

1730
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: where Carlisle hit with us yesterday in the nine o'clock

1731
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: hour again the Pacers and Hornets tonight inside a gamebridge

1732
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: Field House. Then do you know what helps your transition defense?

1733
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: One underdog scoring? Okay? So I asked Rick that because

1734
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: right now, James, they are historically bad on offense, there

1735
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: was a part of me that thought, no, Tyres Halliburton,

1736
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: their perimeter defense should be better. So you think it's

1737
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: offense is weighing the defense down more versus the vice versa.

1738
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: It the defense is weighing the offense down more.

1739
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do, because I went through this conversation with

1740
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 4: Tony East un locked on Pacers a couple nights ago,

1741
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 4: and he talked about with Tyrese right him not being

1742
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 4: in the lineup. Some of us thought, and it was

1743
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 4: a fine way to view it. Even in the absence

1744
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 4: of Tyrese, Could the Pacers be better defensively because we

1745
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 4: know that Tyree's it's not really a strong shoot of

1746
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 4: his great passing lines. But like one on one ball defense,

1747
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 4: he'll tell you I got to get better on that end.

1748
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 4: But the difference between having Halliburton out there versus not,

1749
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 4: even if Halliburn is a guy who gets hunted.

1750
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: On defense.

1751
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 4: Your offense operates at such a high level that you're

1752
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 4: forcing the other team to take the ball out of hoop,

1753
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 4: so your defense already set. So a set defense with

1754
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 4: Halliburton is still more formidable than not having him out there.

1755
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 4: Maybe having better individual defenders, but you can't score enough

1756
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 4: to get your defense set up.

1757
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 1: When you're constantly clanging off the rim.

1758
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 4: You're giving guys opportunities to take it off the rim,

1759
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 4: push it in pace. You know, there are times where

1760
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 4: you just need to be able to put the ball

1761
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 4: through the hoop and force the other team to slow

1762
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 4: down for two seconds. That just doesn't happen, and it

1763
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 4: leads to I think a lot of instances where you

1764
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 4: get up and down the floor a few times and

1765
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 4: teams are getting advantages because they're playing four on three,

1766
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 4: three on two, because you missed a shot for a

1767
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 4: long rebound, or you're out of position because you just

1768
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 4: can't put the ball in the basket.

1769
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that's that's a really fair point.

1770
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: You know, again, it goes back to what we shared

1771
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: yesterday of you know, Tony East had that just staggering

1772
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: statistic of twenty one straight quarters you have been outscored. Finally,

1773
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of Monday night you were able to

1774
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: outscore Detroit.

1775
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: There.

1776
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that to me is just it's one of

1777
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 1: the more astonishing numbers. I mean, there's a lot you

1778
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: can point do for this one and thirteen start, but

1779
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: I would say that is pretty close to the top

1780
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: of the list. I was just thinking about this yesterday

1781
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: and we chatted with Dane Brugler, NFL draft analyst when

1782
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: it comes to Indiana, and I wanted to look this

1783
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: up because Dane shared with us James what do you call?

1784
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: He called Omar Cooper junior, probably a top hundred pick. Yes,

1785
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: that's what, top three rounds. Yeah, Elijah Surratt he mentioned

1786
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: coming into the year probably a fourth or fifth rounder

1787
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:25,759
Speaker 1: and has improved his stock. So maybe in a similar range. Obviously,

1788
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: Mendoza is going to go very very high. I would

1789
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 1: assume offensive tackle wise, I assume, you know, again, some

1790
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: of these guys, you know, eligibility, they could still come back,

1791
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: you know how it is. But like Carter Smith, D'Angelo

1792
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: ponds on defense Aiden Fisher, Indiana could have a lot

1793
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: of guys drafted. And I looked this up. If you

1794
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: go back to the modern drafts, which you know pretty

1795
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: much is kind of the late eighties, early nineties, the

1796
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: most players Indiana has had drafted in a single year

1797
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 1: is three, which is just kind of wild. That is wild.

1798
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty some picks. In twenty sixteen you

1799
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: had Jason Spriggs, Jordan Howard, Nate Sudfeld, twenty ten, Roger Saffold.

1800
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: Remember Jamie Curlew was a great player at IU and

1801
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: Ray Fisher. But then before that, you got to go

1802
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: back to like early nineties, late eighties, you know, when

1803
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: they had some very impressive teams to get that. So,

1804
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean you start playing out this list here, I mean,

1805
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: I would see no reason why Indiana wouldn't have five, six,

1806
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: seven guys drafted. In hell, they could have what three

1807
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: or four go on the first two days of the draft. Yeah,

1808
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: if the over under is three and a half, you

1809
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: got to take the over. You gotta take the over.

1810
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: Brugler also shared about Mendoza for those that missed it yesterday.

1811
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: He said, at the start of the year he had

1812
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks ranked in his top twenty. Mendoza was one

1813
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: of them, and Mendoza is the only one that has

1814
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: stayed there. So this class, we talked so much about this,

1815
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty six quarterback class, remember was it? Uh?

1816
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: Then the Rams trade out around one last year. Yeah,

1817
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 1: to get they always.

1818
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 3: Do something to say it was a year that you know,

1819
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 3: the Rams didn't have a first round pick.

1820
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: That's every year, right, But they didn't do that to buy.

1821
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 1: They did it to get a pick for next They

1822
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: have Atlanta's first round pick, which can you imagine the

1823
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,520
Speaker 1: Rams win the Super Bowl in Draft three? Overall? Yeah,

1824
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: I think there's trying to set there's a world where

1825
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: they win the super Bowl and they draft Fernando Mendoza

1826
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: and pass the torch for Matthew Staffer.

1827
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:25,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1828
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 4: I think they're trying to, like you said, set themselves

1829
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 4: up for the post Matthew Stafford era. And honestly, if

1830
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 4: you're trying to thread the needle, they're doing it about

1831
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 4: as well as you can.

1832
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you if you're finding it Fernando Mendoza, wouldn't you

1833
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 3: sign up for that too? An organization like the Rams

1834
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 3: over going to like the Saints or something.

1835
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, one more.

1836
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 3: Year, perhaps learning from Matthew Stafford before we take the Reins. Yeah,

1837
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 3: Sean McVay, is your head coach.

1838
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Up for that? It might being? Am I being too

1839
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: biased with Notre Dame right now?

1840
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 2: Yes?

1841
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: This is all ways now. I think Mark Mark has

1842
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: no idea what I'm about to say. It doesn't matter.

1843
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: But as soon as he heard bias and Notre Dame

1844
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: and Kevin Bowen in the same sentence, he immediately jumped

1845
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: on me. Is that true? Do you know what I'm about?

1846
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 3: I don't know where you're going, but I'm The amount

1847
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 3: of Notre Dame basketball we've talked in just a few

1848
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 3: short weeks is more than I think we ever have Otherwise,

1849
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 3: if you weren't on this show, I think.

1850
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: You're going football right Notre Dame Bellerman Tonight there Bellerman,

1851
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,879
Speaker 1: scrappy bunch out of Louisville. My invite is getting rescinded.

1852
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 3: I'm not going.

1853
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: He's gonna send me to the wrong trap game here.

1854
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame add Ohio State over the weekend. Notre Dame

1855
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: has got Kansas coming up on Monday. Little well, trap game.

1856
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: We gotta, you know, stay on the straight and narrow.

1857
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: Don't be texting the Saint Mary's girls. Focus on the

1858
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: task at hand here Bellerman to night seven o'clock inside

1859
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 1: of Percell Pavilion. Okay, so, if anybody watched college football

1860
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: ranking show last night, sandwiched around the Champions Classic Michigan

1861
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: State roles in the first game, Duke beats a banged

1862
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: up Kansas team. In the second game, he got the

1863
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: poll release in the middle, and pretty much all of

1864
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: it was centered around to lost Miami. Yeah, it's Notre Dame.

1865
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Miami Week one did what to Notre Dame? They beat them?

1866
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: As the season is played out, I have two eyes, James,

1867
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: you have two eyes. Mark, you have two eyes. I

1868
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: have four eyes. If you watch Notre Dame, if you

1869
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: watch I think we're all glasses people here, if you

1870
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: watch Notre Dame in Miami play football, I'll speak for

1871
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: each of you, and yes I'm biased. Notre Dame is

1872
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: better than Miami. Your eyes would tell you that. But

1873
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 1: Miami fans are griping. They're saying, wait a minute, we've

1874
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: got the same record as Notre Dame. We beat Notre Dame,

1875
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: Yes they did. Why are we thirteen and Notre Dame's nine?

1876
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 1: Should Miami fans have a gripe? I think they should

1877
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: do head heads matter. Should head a head? Should head

1878
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: to heads be everything? Or do they evolve? Do Week

1879
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: one one head to heads matter? Do the fact that

1880
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: Notre Dame played at Miami matter something? Say three points

1881
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:10,600
Speaker 1: for home field sounds like excuses to me? What was

1882
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 1: the final score of that game? Was that a three

1883
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: point game? Three point game? So here I am showing

1884
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: heavy Notre Dame bias. Are you guys gonna rip me

1885
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 1: for it?

1886
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 4: I'll say this, one of our former colleagues has alread

1887
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 4: ripped you for it. Because Nicole auerback from now, she

1888
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 4: has a million jobs. She's at NBC Sports. She does

1889
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 4: great work. By the way she is, She's fantastic. Used

1890
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 4: to be at the Athletic So she put out a

1891
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 4: tweet last night and said the cost ball playoff chair

1892
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 4: Hunter Eurochek says that Notre Dame in Miami have not

1893
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 4: been compared to each other because they are not close

1894
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 4: enough to each other in the rankings mentions, Miami has

1895
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 4: two losses to unranked teams and Notre Dame has two

1896
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 4: losses two teams in the committee's top thirteen. And then

1897
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 4: here's our colleague, Taylor Tannebaum times in and says they

1898
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 4: literally played.

1899
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 3: On the football field. Gosh, good argument. I'd love to

1900
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 3: just rip tailor right now.

1901
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I does it not matter to

1902
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 4: play head to head? What are we playing the games for?

1903
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: I know?

1904
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 3: I think it's just as Also, like Kevin said, we're

1905
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 3: landed on the schedule, like that was such an early

1906
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 3: season game, footing and all that stuff. If it had

1907
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 3: just happened like a week or two ago, I feel

1908
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 3: like it would carry more weight.

1909
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 1: And I would like to think, and it's easy for

1910
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: me to say in the cheap seats, but I'd like

1911
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: to think if you remove Notre Dame and you put

1912
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: that team as Purdue, I would like to sit here

1913
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: and say, wait a minute. Perdues had played on the

1914
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 1: road at Miami week one with a first time starting

1915
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: quarterback and lost by three. And then I've watched the

1916
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: rest of the season play out, and again, you guys

1917
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: watch college football on a weekly basis, you both would

1918
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: sit here and say Notre Dame is the better team

1919
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 1: than Miami, right correct? Right now? It's yes, yes. So

1920
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: that's where I struggle with it, Like there's part of

1921
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 1: me it's like, wait a minute, why else do you

1922
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 1: play the games? Taylor Tannebomb said it perfectly. She also

1923
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 1: works for a SEC network. Is no, you're not lying.

1924
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 4: Whenever I do see this, I have to you know,

1925
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 4: I didn't mention that part because it a hurt argument.

1926
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: I think it could be an absolutely fascinating debate for

1927
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 1: the committee here in a few weeks now, Miami has

1928
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: at Virginia Tech and at Pittsburgh to end the year.

1929
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 1: Notre Dame just beat the breaks off, Pittsburgh's about to

1930
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 1: play Pittsburgh. That is a very comparatible November piece of data.

1931
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 1: And to me, the Trold transit of property, I think

1932
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: you're evaluating the whole resume, twelve games of it. I

1933
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: mean Notre Dame had a well you know, yes, they

1934
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 1: are excuses, but I think they are valid as well.

1935
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: Of like Notre Dame had a freshman starting quarterback, starting

1936
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 1: in that environment on the road and lost by three points.

1937
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: I don't think they should be Does.

1938
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 4: That context matter? Not overall, But you're starting a freshman.

1939
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: Quarterback, like maybe maybe that maybe, hey, that's how your

1940
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: roster's been built. You know that you decided to start them.

1941
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 1: But I do think the fact that you went on

1942
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: the road Week one and lost by three points is

1943
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: not and clearly the committee agrees with me. Right now,

1944
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: the committee also likes money. Well, I mean, let's not

1945
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: get into it. I really can't go there. Miami has

1946
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 1: a huge brand.

1947
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 4: But I do think this is why college football is

1948
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 4: one of the greatest, dumbest sports, because we sit here

1949
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 4: and we have arguments like this and it will never end.

1950
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Well, you will never be happy no matter how the

1951
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 1: committee chooses.

1952
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 4: There is always gonna be somebody on the outside looking in, like,

1953
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 4: you know what you wronged me?

1954
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: It was It was the case back in the day too,

1955
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 1: when they were letting the computer do it. Like the

1956
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: computer doesn't know anything.

1957
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 3: It's like people don't know humans, and it nothing will

1958
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 3: happen now, But these guys don't know anything.

1959
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: And James, you love, you love these storylines, you love

1960
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 1: these debates. And in two weeks, let's say Miami wins

1961
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 1: these two games, let's say Notre Dame takes care of business,

1962
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 1: and let's say all of a sudden, the committee and

1963
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 1: you just read off the committee chairs words. He said

1964
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 1: that Miami currently is not in the same pool with

1965
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Notre Dame right now, right because how the two losses

1966
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: shook Miami gets into that pool and now the head

1967
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 1: to head matters. Let's say, all of a sudden, the

1968
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: committee flips and they put Miami over Notre Dame. So

1969
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 1: you're going to go back to the rankings that existed

1970
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, when Notre Dame was eight spots ahead

1971
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 1: of Miami. And in that time, what has Notre Dame done?

1972
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: They went on the road against the rank Pittsburgh team

1973
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: and beat the you know what out of them. Yeah,

1974
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: let's say they just take care of business these last

1975
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: two games. All of a sudden, Miami will have climbed

1976
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 1: eight spots to the point where now the committee's putting

1977
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: Miami above Notre Dame. And if you look at it,

1978
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: it's so close right now that could be a debate

1979
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: for the final spot. Alabama was ten last night, so

1980
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 1: Alabama technically is that. But in the next couple of

1981
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 1: weeks it could play out where you could have Notre

1982
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 1: Dame versus Miami for the last spot, which would be

1983
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: unbelievable from a debatable standpoint.

1984
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 3: The computers agree with Kevin because I asked chat GPT,

1985
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 3: who's the better team, Notre Dame or the Miami Hurricanes

1986
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 3: and says, right now, I lean towards Notre Dame is

1987
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:28,719
Speaker 3: the better team. They have a superior record and strong

1988
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 3: point differential, beating strong opponents and showing consistency. Well, Miami

1989
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 3: is very good and rising. I don't see as much

1990
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 3: evidence that they're outperforming Notre Dame in the same way.

1991
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: Look at the most jeff Rickord thing, I was just curious,

1992
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk to your phone. I was like,

1993
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 1: what I looked just walked through this door, and Mark

1994
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 1: looked like he had a walkie talking up to his mouth.

1995
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 1: And I assumed that, you know, one of his girls

1996
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: needed some fatherly encouragement here on this Wednesday morning. And

1997
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 1: Mark's whispering into the phone, and then I hear him

1998
01:38:57,960 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: out of the phrase Notre Dame.

1999
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get that extra Bosco stick, Addie, go ahead,

2000
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 3: it's on the account.

2001
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 4: Go ahead.

2002
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: I'd be using Chat. I've never used Chat GBT. It

2003
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: is fascinating, Like we use it.

2004
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 3: We've used a couple of times as far as like

2005
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 3: we want to do some upgrades around the home, so

2006
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 3: you'll take like a picture of the house and like

2007
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 3: redecorate the kitchen as like this and that, or add

2008
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 3: a porch.

2009
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I do all. That's fascinating, but it really does.

2010
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 3: Uh huh, it's pretty remarkable because there's times where like

2011
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:22,719
Speaker 3: take a screenshot of that.

2012
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 1: That's what we want. We need to hire somebody to build.

2013
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 4: I was gonna tell you, does chat GPT tell you, Okay,

2014
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 4: how gonna do this for ten bucks versus ten thousand?

2015
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 1: I mean, if they will, I'd make out with that computer.

2016
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 1: By the way, the bones need some landscaping help. If

2017
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 1: anyone wants to help out in the landscaping department, slide

2018
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 1: into my DMS, get in chat GPT, see what they

2019
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 1: cook up, take a picture of it. Literally, I'd rather

2020
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: help human beings than help.

2021
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 3: I'm telling your professor, give it a whirl and try.

2022
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Uh Nate Taylor talking chiefs with us here in about

2023
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 1: ten minutes. Let's check it out the.

2024
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:58,759
Speaker 6: Morning checkdown on Nutty Sweet five and one oh seven

2025
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 6: five the bag James Boyd.

2026
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: They gotta get it done tonight, right the pacers get

2027
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: a win.

2028
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 4: Matheren fifty ball book it career high? What's his career high?

2029
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 4: Whatever it is, He's getting a new one tonight, say

2030
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 4: thirty four. Oh, he's got to drop forty at least once.

2031
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 4: This season. Why not tonight.

2032
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 1: Pacers Hornets inside a Gamebridge Field House. They are a

2033
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: one point underdog. The Hornets won two of three to

2034
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 1: start the season. Since then, they are two to nine.

2035
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Miller has missed a bunch of time. His return

2036
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: is expected at some point this week. We'll see if

2037
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: it is tonight. LaMelo Ball is healthy, which I think

2038
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 1: is probably fair to mention. Very good player, but Matheren

2039
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 1: will knock him down a pick at Cleveland on Friday

2040
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 1: for the Pacers. All right, Colts, we'll get back to

2041
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 1: practice coming up later today. We should mention injury wise James.

2042
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: Obviously Tavarius Forward his return to practice will be priority

2043
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 1: number one. But we still haven't seen Taekwon, Lewis Sampson,

2044
01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: Evacom and Anthony Gould here in the last couple of games,

2045
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: so those would be some other ones to mention as well.

2046
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: As the Colts get back from their bye week again

2047
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: that Wednesday, Thursday Friday, Cadence off to Kansas City. One

2048
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: thing to note here, if you look at the next

2049
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: few games, James, I believe they will play three of

2050
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: the top I think it's six scoring defenses. Kansas City

2051
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: is in that group. Houston next week is the number

2052
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 1: one scoring defense, and then Seattle upcoming here in a

2053
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 1: little less than a month, they also rank in the

2054
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 1: top six. So Daniel Jones in this offense has been

2055
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 1: absolutely surgical for so much of the season, a bit

2056
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: humbled the last two weeks. How that unit reacts to

2057
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 1: that against some of these better defenses, I think is

2058
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 1: also a big, big storyline.

2059
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,759
Speaker 4: Last time I checked, I believe Kansas City was also

2060
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 4: number one in passing touchdowns allowed this season, number one,

2061
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 4: meaning they're the best at allowing the least amount of

2062
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 4: packing touchdown. I don't think they only get up nine

2063
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 4: so far through the first ten games or so.

2064
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 1: These kant City numbers, and I'm like, how the hell

2065
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: are they five and five? They've ranked like top ten

2066
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: and so many.

2067
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 4: No, it's gotta be the margins, and that's what it

2068
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 4: is in this league. That's what it makes the NFL great, honestly.

2069
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 1: One possession league. Man, there's nothing else that defines it's great,

2070
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 1: great parody, and great entertainment on a weekly basis. Again,

2071
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 1: that college football playoff poll, as we've talked about the

2072
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 1: rankings from last night, Indiana is in the two spots,

2073
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: so that would be a neutral quarterfinal game. If the

2074
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 1: bracket played out, they would get the winner of Alabama

2075
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 1: or again, and then they would play A and M

2076
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: and Ohio State Notre Dame's path as the ten or

2077
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 1: excuse me, as the nine seed, they would be on

2078
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 1: the road at Oklahoma, and then if seeds held for

2079
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, it would be Ohio State, Georgia and I

2080
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 1: chops in Notre Dame Oklahoma.

2081
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 4: Sign your boy up. I'm trying to do nothing that

2082
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 4: day besides sitting on the couch and rot and watch

2083
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 4: the games.

2084
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,879
Speaker 1: That day would be Friday, December nineteenth. We'll get one game. Saturday,

2085
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: December twentieth, we'll get three games, and if I'm not mistaken,

2086
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: I believe the culture mightday night football that weekend. Colt's

2087
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 1: forty nine ers on the twenty second College Hoops wise

2088
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,680
Speaker 1: IU Indi. Per usual, they scored a lot, and per

2089
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 1: usual they gave up a lot. One of the three

2090
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: ninety one they lost to Charleston's Charleston Southern last night.

2091
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: They will go out to the Air Force Academy here

2092
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: for a couple of games this weekend. Indiana perdue both

2093
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 1: in action coming up tomorrow both six o'clock tips perdue

2094
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 1: down in the Bahamas any either. Have you ever been

2095
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: to the Bahamas?

2096
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 3: No, I'd love to. My parents apparently went to the Bahamas.

2097
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 3: My mom has no recollection of it.

2098
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: Well, dear Lord, that sounds like a thirty.

2099
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 3: Four the mom having a great time back in the day.

2100
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 3: It's one of the great the great arguments in Dykedon family.

2101
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: Sounds like Thanksgiving plate number two discussion Here at the

2102
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:47,839
Speaker 1: dyke In household.

2103
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 3: We're at my parents' house like a year ago, and

2104
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 3: my daughters want to see like baby pictures of me

2105
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 3: back in the day. So we're going through these photo

2106
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 3: albums and my parents have all these like.

2107
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,520
Speaker 1: Oh, he was made of the Atlantis, but he was made.

2108
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 3: They have all these like you know when you go

2109
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 3: on vacation you get like souvenirs or something.

2110
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 1: They have.

2111
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 3: They had souvenir I think it was like spoons or

2112
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 3: cups or something. But they had different things of where

2113
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 3: they were at, and one of them was the Bahamas.

2114
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 3: And my dad's like, oh, yeah, the Bahamas trip in.

2115
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 3: My mom's like, what are you talking about. He's like,

2116
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 3: we went to the Bahamas. She's like, no, I never

2117
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 3: went to the Bahamas. He's like, you absolutely did, and

2118
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 3: she has zero recollection of it. And he's like, we

2119
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 3: went to the Bahamas.

2120
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: Sounds like a Scooby dude.

2121
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 3: It was episode quite exciting because I was just sitting there,

2122
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 3: like eating popcorn, Like, do you guys, how do you

2123
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 3: not remember vacation? How does that happen? Well, I'd completely

2124
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 3: blanket from your memory.

2125
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 1: Maybe they need to head down there and watch the

2126
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: Boilers take on Memphis. They try to reenact things tomorrow

2127
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 1: to this day.

2128
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 3: We're like, hey, you guys gonna go to the Bahamas.

2129
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 3: My Dad's like, I've already been. Apparently your mother hasn't

2130
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 3: or something.

2131
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 4: So one of our great debates in the Boyed household

2132
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 4: whenever I go home, and I started up every time

2133
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 4: my dad legitimately thinks that he could be Ronda Rouse

2134
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 4: in a fight.

2135
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: You've said this before and I laughed for the first.

2136
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 4: He gets so mad and I remind him that he

2137
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 4: is absolutely delusional. I'd give it one of these and

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01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 4: I'm liking she would break every bone in your body.

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Speaker 4: Is noicee where I give my rational confidence from.

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01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: H That is outstanding. Lebron last night, his season debut

2141
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 1: eleven and twelve and twenty nine minutes of action. Sublime

2142
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: is the word I would use the Lakers eleven and four,

2143
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 1: so they could be maybe a team that's starting to

2144
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:28,719
Speaker 1: put some things together. Obviously they'll reintegrate arguably the greatest

2145
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: of all Lebron James here upcoming. Okay, let's talk a

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01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 1: little Kansas City Chiefs. We'll do that. Nate Taylor, he

2147
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 1: has plenty of ties here to the Circle City. Used

2148
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 1: to cover the Pacers for the Indianapolis Star. He's been

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01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs beat for a while. He's going to

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01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: join us next. Colts and Chiefs coming up Sunday at

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01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: one o'clock. Certainly a game that we've circled here for

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01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, and I would assume given

2153
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: the deaf con state out there in Kansas City, it's

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01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 1: one that just naturally has gotten circled with where they're

2155
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 1: at from a win loss standpoint, and James Boyd, we're

2156
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:04,839
Speaker 1: gonna head to the paylist Sickers hotline right now. I

2157
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: am familiar from AFAR with the work of Nate Taylor.

2158
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 1: I have always admired his work and always enjoyed his

2159
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: energy level when he has hopped on our radio station,

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01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:14,719
Speaker 1: and that's where we're going here on this Wednesday morning.

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01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 4: Yes, we are Nate Taylor, former Indie Star Pacers reporter

2162
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 4: like myself, now working for ESPN covering the Chiefs.

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01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 1: Nate, how you doing.

2164
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 2: I'm fantastic, fellows. How are you guys?

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01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 4: Well, I'm doing good. I'm fantastic as well. But I

2166
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 4: would say for the team you're covering, they're not fantastic

2167
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 4: right now. So is the sky falling in Kansas City?

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01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 4: Is this the fall? The dynasty? Is Sunday?

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01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 2: Everything Sunday is really close to just about everything for

2170
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 2: this particular group of Chiefs. It's fascinating, guys, because I

2171
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:53,839
Speaker 2: think statistically you look at a lot of the metrics

2172
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 2: and they actually are better than last year's team. As

2173
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 2: I've written and said several times, this year cannot win

2174
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 2: a close game. Like I think that's something that has

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01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 2: taken away from sort of the the swagger, the or

2176
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it for Patrick Mahomes and

2177
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 2: the rest of the Chiefs, Like they're always comfortable in

2178
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 2: close games because they're normally winning them, especially last year

2179
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:20,720
Speaker 2: when they were trying to go, you know, for the

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01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,680
Speaker 2: three piece. So in Kansas City. I think a lot

2181
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 2: of people already to push the panic button. This is

2182
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,719
Speaker 2: pretty much considered a must win game for the Chiefs,

2183
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 2: who are five and five and out of the playoff picture.

2184
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 2: Did not expect that to happen. But at the same time,

2185
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 2: you know, the Chiefs now realize that they can't. They

2186
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 2: don't have any margin of error right if they actually

2187
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 2: want to like be a playoff team and continue their

2188
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 2: dynastic run. So yeah, man, it's if they lose Sunday.

2189
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 2: It won't necessarily surprise me, but I do think you

2190
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,719
Speaker 2: have to recognize how rare this will be. Patrick Mahomes

2191
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 2: has never lost three straight games in the regular season.

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01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 2: This is year eight for him as the chief starter,

2193
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 2: which makes Sunday's game like very intriguing because the Colts

2194
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 2: coming off of bye week are gonna be plenty for

2195
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:10,759
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to handle.

2196
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: Nate Taylor's with us here on the palost locker shotline eight.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the time here on this Wednesday morning. You've

2198
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 1: covered the chief since is it twenty eighteen? Is that right?

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01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 2: That's right? Yep? Every game?

2200
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Would you say the defcon level has ever been this high?

2201
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 2: The only other time I could think of, and that's

2202
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 2: a very good question, is the twenty twenty one season.

2203
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 2: Now we are much further into this season then back then.

2204
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 2: But the Chiefs did start that year three and four.

2205
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 2: I remember they were in Tennessee. This is back when

2206
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 2: you know, they had Ryan Tannehill and obviously Derrick Henry

2207
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 2: and A. J. Brown and the Titans just actually like

2208
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 2: blew the doors off the Chiefs. Is probably still the

2209
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 2: most embarrassing loss in Patrick Mahomes's career. But again, that

2210
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 2: was like, hey, they're three and four, it's October, Like,

2211
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 2: what the heck is going on? Man, We're one week

2212
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 2: from Thanksgiving? And you know this team thought, Okay, you know,

2213
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 2: we may have stumbled early in the season, but as

2214
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 2: the season goes on. One of the things that makes

2215
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 2: Indy Reid such a successful coaches his teams traditionally get

2216
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 2: better as the year goes along, and that, just for

2217
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 2: a number of reasons, has not happened. So is there

2218
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,560
Speaker 2: way for the Chiefs to get back into the playoffs. Yeah,

2219
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 2: it would help if they wanted this game against the Colts,

2220
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 2: but they're going to have to actually go on a

2221
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 2: winning streak and they've only done that once this season,

2222
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 2: and they've been too much of a team that's been

2223
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 2: lacking discipline focused at times. I don't know if I mean,

2224
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 2: you know, people in Indianapolis realize this, but like the

2225
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 2: Colts are a more disciplined team than the Chiefs, And

2226
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 2: that might be hard to like wrap your mind around,

2227
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 2: but that's the case. And the Colts actually have a

2228
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 2: more balanced offense than Kansas City, even though the Chiefs

2229
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: have plenty of talent on their rosters, so it hasn't

2230
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 2: been as bad in a long time. And you could

2231
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 2: really start to suggest that maybe this is what the

2232
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 2: Super Bowl hangover truly looks like. Even for as great

2233
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 2: of a team as the Chiefs have been over the

2234
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 2: last seven seasons, they've never had a season quite like this.

2235
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is I'm looking at their losses this year

2236
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 4: and all five of them are by single digits. That

2237
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 4: is want me with their one possession games, like you said, yep,

2238
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 4: to go back to a point you made just a

2239
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,640
Speaker 4: second ago. As far as the Colts be more disciplined

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Speaker 4: than the Chiefs, how formidable on the other side, does

2241
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,560
Speaker 4: this Coast team feel compared to years past? I know

2242
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 4: they don't face each other every year. But from afar,

2243
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 4: looking at the Colts have the number one offense in

2244
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 4: the NFL. They've got Daniel Jones and he you're playing

2245
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 4: pretty good football johnthan Taylor as an MVP candidate. So

2246
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 4: from that perspective, what are some of the feelings about

2247
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 4: this team that is, on one hand resurging while the

2248
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 4: Chiefs are trying to stay on top.

2249
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think James, this is a this isn't fascinating team,

2250
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 2: right because outside of that one game in Pittsburgh and

2251
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 2: I remember watching it, Hey, if you guys don't turn

2252
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 2: the football over again, like I said, pretty disciplined. We

2253
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 2: all know what happened in Los Angeles with the you know,

2254
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 2: Adie Mitchell who's not even on the team anymore. So, like,

2255
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,639
Speaker 2: their losses are very easy to understand, which I think

2256
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,600
Speaker 2: is so fascinating and so funny about people here in

2257
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 2: KNC that are like, how can we lose every close game?

2258
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 2: That's impossible, Like, you know, you can't go from like

2259
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 2: winning every game one year to like losing every close

2260
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:43,719
Speaker 2: game the next year. If now, you know, everybody will say, here, okay,

2261
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 2: do we really trust the Colts because we have not

2262
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 2: seen it in January yet. And I guess that's a

2263
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 2: fair question to ask, because you know, Daniel Jones has

2264
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 2: not made it to like a conference championship game. But

2265
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 2: I do get the sense that in terms of MVP candidates,

2266
01:51:56,479 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 2: it's really Jonvin Taylor and or you know, Matthew Stafford

2267
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,640
Speaker 2: in LA. It really is like pick your flavor, Like

2268
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 2: what do you preference more. I would tend to give

2269
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 2: the upper handed Jhonthan Taylor, just because he's been so

2270
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 2: remarkable this season, and it's been nice to see the

2271
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 2: Colts realize that, like, hey, maybe we shouldn't antagonize our

2272
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 2: best player. That would be cool, Like that would be

2273
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 2: really nice. We just like gave him the ball and

2274
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 2: let him, you know, be awesome. The Chiefs have done

2275
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 2: a decent job stopping the run, but I think the

2276
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 2: game plan really comes down to Ken Stevez, fagnel Low

2277
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs defense get any pressure on Daniel Jones.

2278
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 2: That's been their biggest issue this year on defense is hey,

2279
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 2: outside of Chris Cheronds, they really don't have that many

2280
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 2: guys who can just win one on one to get

2281
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 2: to the passer, which means you have to blitz, which

2282
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 2: means most teams now are starting to get comfortable when

2283
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 2: the Chiefs blitz because they can anticipate and they can

2284
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,559
Speaker 2: prepare for it. You know, if Daniel Jones feels comfortable,

2285
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 2: the Coats will probably score the high twenties, maybe even

2286
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 2: into the thirties. Of course, like you said, there, they're

2287
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, the highest quarant team in the NFL, which

2288
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 2: this is gonna have to be probably like a shootout

2289
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 2: that she don't necessarily feel comfortable playing in because again,

2290
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 2: when it's gotten down to winning time in the fourth quarter,

2291
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 2: like we saw on Sunday, Patrick Mahomes, and the offense

2292
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 2: has not delivered in the ways they've done in the past.

2293
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Nate Taylor's with us here. He used to cover

2294
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 1: the Pacers for the Indianapolis Star. Nate Taylor, is there

2295
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:27,600
Speaker 1: an establishment here in Indy that you perhaps smiss? I

2296
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: know it's been a while since you've probably called Indie home.

2297
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like calling it my second home because again,

2298
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 2: those those those years that I covered the Pacers were

2299
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 2: really fun. If people don't remember, it was the it

2300
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 2: was the I caught the very end of the Paul George,

2301
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:48,679
Speaker 2: Larry Bird, Frank Vogel Era right, and so I still

2302
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 2: watched the team. Last year was again a legitimate joy

2303
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,799
Speaker 2: ride that was kind of shakespeare in and how tragic

2304
01:53:56,840 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 2: it was for Game seven and Halliburton's injury. I love

2305
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 2: Kill Royce. That's never going to change.

2306
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 1: It's one of the things sticks.

2307
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I have to get when I come

2308
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 2: to Indy for the Combine. And I've been one of

2309
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 2: the people who's been very vocal about like, don't you

2310
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:18,640
Speaker 2: ever take the combine away from Indianapolis? Are you guys crazy? Uh,

2311
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite times of the year because

2312
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 2: you can usually get a Pacers game. They're usually home

2313
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 2: for one of those days in the week that we are,

2314
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 2: you know, covering the Combine. And yeah, I just love

2315
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 2: I love the atmosphere of Kill Roy's and but it

2316
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 2: still represents in a lot of ways. So I'm just

2317
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 2: very like easy going when it comes to like, you know,

2318
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 2: having a good time, having food, having friends involved. So yeah,

2319
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 2: I tell you, guys, I it's been rough. I can't

2320
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: watch this team and it's not their fault.

2321
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you need some Kill Roy's

2322
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 1: breadsticks and maybe whatever's on the bottom shelf of the

2323
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 1: liquor over there, to get you through the season.

2324
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 2: Man, and you know, the last guy that and I

2325
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 2: did feel some whatever connection obviously. You know, it was

2326
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 2: sad to see, you know, Nancy no longer being with us,

2327
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 2: you know, it was it was cool to know that

2328
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 2: like at least one guy that I covered on that team,

2329
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 2: Mouth Turner, was still a part of the Pacers Cores.

2330
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 2: And then of course he is now a member of

2331
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 2: the Walkee Bucks. So it's a different era. But I'm

2332
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 2: not you know, they are basically my NBA tea because

2333
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 2: we don't have one here in Kansas City. But yeah,

2334
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 2: like this team, man, I mean needs to miss injury.

2335
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 2: It's just like come on, So yeah, it's it's it's rough,

2336
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 2: but hey, the culture are backup and who knows, man,

2337
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 2: I think if the Colts win this game on Sunday,

2338
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 2: there's a strong case we made that they can be

2339
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 2: the one seed. And I know there's all the sort

2340
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 2: of speculation about like, hey, if you could just give

2341
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 2: Daniel Chelles a nice, cool environment in a dome to

2342
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 2: get you to the super Bowl, it would be pretty

2343
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 2: uh pretty you know, appetizing. I do love the idea

2344
01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 2: that like this is kind of a swing game for

2345
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 2: both team, like the Coats can really start thinking about

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01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 2: the one seed that they win on Sunday, And for

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01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, it's like, hey, if we win, we could

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01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 2: actually get our act together. Hey maybe we should start

2349
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 2: doing that. Maybe we should like shit here for the

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01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 2: next seven weeks if we actually want to be in

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01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs. And you know, the only thing that you know,

2352
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Christ Jones, Andy re all they

2353
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 2: care about is just getting to January so that they

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01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 2: have another chance to you know, pursue a super Bowl.

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01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 2: But you've got to earn the right to get there.

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01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 2: And it would be nice, I think for a lot

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01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 2: of Chiefs fans that they say, hey, if you can

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01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 2: beat a team that's what is it eight and two

2359
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 2: right now? If you can beat a team that's eight

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01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 2: and two, man, get your act together. And so it's

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Speaker 2: a cool swing game as we get towards the latter

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Speaker 2: third of the season.

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Speaker 1: It's a really good way to put it. If you

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01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 1: had thrown out these storylines, you know, back in August,

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01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 1: you'd say, oh, yeah, for sure, Yeah, a team playing

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01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: for the one seed, yeah, Kansas City, a team fighting

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01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 1: to stay in playoff relevancy, yeah, Indianapolis, and now it's

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01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 1: been reversed here with how this season has played out. Nate,

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Speaker 1: get you some bread sticks in February when you're here

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Speaker 1: late February early Mark. Yeah, and as always, man, we

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the combo.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, yeah Anytimeank you the great Nate Taylor right there,

2373
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 9: just a good dude on the Payless Slickors hotline again

2374
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 9: used to cover the Pacers currently with the Chiefs for ESPN,

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01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 9: and that is quite the stat he threw out there.

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Speaker 1: James one hundred and twenty two career games for Patrick Mahomes.

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01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 1: Never has lost three in a row.

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Speaker 4: Never say never getting that trifecta on Sunday, Buddy, if.

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Speaker 1: I looked it up correctly, he's only lost too in

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01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 1: a row. I think it's five times, which is that's

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01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 1: your remarkable level assistency, insane. One final time here Kevin

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Speaker 1: boll And, James Boyd and Mark Dyton on a Wednesday,

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01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for tuning in today to the Fan Morning

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01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 1: show Again, Pacers hornets right here on these airwaves six

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01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 1: thirty coverage Tonight's boy urgency heightened, I would say inside

2386
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 1: that home locker room tonight win for Jeremiah Johnson, right,

2387
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: Make Jeremiah Johnson work. That's the motivation. Make him do

2388
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 1: a halftime interview, Make him do an end of a

2389
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 1: game interview that means you have a lead or you

2390
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 1: won the game. That is true. Make Jeremiah Johnson work.

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01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: That's the motive for tonight. One thing to know about

2392
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 1: the Colts schedule James final seven games, every single opponent

2393
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 1: five hundred or better. It's quite the schedule to end

2394
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 1: the season. And every single team currently five hundred or better.

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01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 1: And if you look at the team's five hundred, one

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01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 1: is the Chiefs, Okay, that kind of speaks herself. And

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01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: the other is a Texans team that has scratching claude

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01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 1: back to five hundred without c J. Stroud. And it

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01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:45,120
Speaker 1: sounds like c J. Stroud, while he won't play tomorrow

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01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 1: night against the Bills, it sounds like he will be

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01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 1: back on the field for your game a week from Sunday. Yeah,

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01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 1: this is you know. I think a few weeks back,

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01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: we have this debate of you know, have the Colts

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01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 1: answered all the questions? And I think the best way

2405
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 1: to put it at that point of the season was

2406
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,680
Speaker 1: the Colts have answered the questions presented to them. So far,

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01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: again they can't they don't make their schedule. But now,

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01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: starting with Pittsburgh, they started to be presented with different

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01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: questions and we'll see how they continue to answering.

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Speaker 4: I have a question, So, when Nelly was born, did

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01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 4: she stick with you on the Irish side or is

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01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 4: she a hoosier? Has that debate be done in the

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01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 4: Bowing household?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I walked in the house yesterday and

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01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 1: I saw my children both wearing Notre Dame shirts, the

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01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 1: amount of joy that I got is is rather sick.

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01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: It's rather pathetic, frankly, how much joy? You know. I

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01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: should just be grateful that they're healthy and happy, which

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01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 1: I obviously I am, but like you'd be happier as

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01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 1: a Notre Dame fan. But some of them all that

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02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:02,800
Speaker 1: in those Notre Dame shirts. I just, man, I just

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02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 1: wanted to hit my leg and say, go Irish. I

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02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,520
Speaker 1: was so happy. So Rosie has gotten to the age

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02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 1: where she knows it grinds my gears when she says

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02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 1: go other teams, so she likes to do that, but

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02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 1: she likes my energy level on third down when Notre

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02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 1: Dame is playing, All right, so she knows that I'll

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02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I'm more inclined to maybe throw

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02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 1: her on the couch or you know, spin her in

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02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 1: the chair. You know, she can climb on my back,

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02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: you know something like that there, And I think Max

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02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 1: Boone will be a Notre Dame fan. You better it's

2433
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 1: just us, just us, brother boy, you better take on

2434
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 1: your father's fandom. I'm gonna say this one thing that

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02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 1: I have missed upon having children and Mark Dyketon, I

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02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 1: don't know if you're this way, and maybe as a

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02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 1: parent I should just be more ConTroll into the TV.

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02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 1: I missed watching Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy.

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02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm there. We have actually turned on Jeopardy

2440
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 3: for whatever reason. They played Jeopardy at my daughter's Schoolshake

2441
02:00:57,480 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 3: is Jeopardy like a real show? Like, yeah, it's a

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02:00:59,320 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 3: real show.

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02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: Turned it out at that point it's like, all right,

2444
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:02,760
Speaker 1: what do you want to watch for bed?

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02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:04,960
Speaker 1: You know that's kind of where I'm at there, So

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Speaker 1: shout out to I just saw this Harrison Whittaker from

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02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 1: Tara Hate. He has won six straight shows on Jeopardy

2449
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 1: and he stabs at how much money Harrison's made here

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02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 1: with a six straight win.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say, I have no idea. I

2452
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:22,920
Speaker 4: don't know how much money you make on Jeopardy.

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Speaker 3: I will say two hundred and fifteen thousand, one hundred

2454
02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:28,879
Speaker 3: and sixty thousand.

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02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 1: Make that much money with six straight wins year. He's

2456
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:35,920
Speaker 1: gotta be good at it. But Dang Harrison, a researcher

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02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 1: from Tara hate here. According to his LinkedIn proar researcher

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02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 1: the Man Knows Everything, worked as a researcher in the

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02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:45,840
Speaker 1: United Kingdom. He went to Cambridge. Cambridge sounds a little

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Speaker 1: different than my education background. I miss Jeopardy mark and

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02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,280
Speaker 1: maybe I should just tell the kids, Hey, we're gonna

2462
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:55,440
Speaker 1: sit here. We're gonna you know, they got a category

2463
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 1: on the planets, and we're gonna get plugged in here.

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Speaker 3: I miss Jeopardy two. But then I always watched those

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02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 3: game shows. I'm like, what's would I want to go

2466
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 3: on to the most to try to win money easier

2467
02:02:03,280 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 3: like Jeopardy I would. There's no way I'd be terrible

2468
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 3: on that show. I wouldn't know all that stuff, like

2469
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:10,280
Speaker 3: give me like who wants to be a millionaire? We're like,

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Speaker 3: what color is peak at you?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Lock it in? Hey, yellow give me five thousand

2472
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 1: dollars right there by the way we've gotten in this

2473
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 1: AI debate. And you somehow did you make a picture

2474
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 1: of me watching a Notre Dame basketball game through AI

2475
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 1: and I'm pulling my hair out. Yeah, and that's my

2476
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 1: good hair too, that's my true that's that's that's that's

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02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 1: what girl hair into you. Yeah.

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02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I need to.

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Speaker 1: Do one Gary. How you can do that? You you

2480
02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 1: even have Notre Dame. It looks like in the background,

2481
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: I know, isn't that wild? And AI chat GBT is

2482
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 1: no joke.

2483
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm telling them in dangerous times, there's weird stuff out there,

2484
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 3: but like there are practical like I said, for the

2485
02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 3: landscaping or like home improvement stuff like forgetting ideas, it's

2486
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:55,360
Speaker 3: actually pretty handy. Or if you want to make Kevin

2487
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 3: Bone look like a fool, you can do that as well.

2488
02:02:57,200 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you clearly have been more fun. Yeah, through some

2489
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 1: of these, James and I will be out at Colts

2490
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:06,240
Speaker 1: practice against your Verius forard his Practiceville availability. I would

2491
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 1: assume Anthony Richardson remains uninjured reserve that window does not start,

2492
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 1: and we'll see about the defensive end. Samson epacom Taekwon

2493
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 1: Lewis have missed the last couple of games. Anthony Gould,

2494
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:19,760
Speaker 1: their punt returner, has also missed the last few, and

2495
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: we'll see Brian Mason, their special teams coordinator, wouldn't commit

2496
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:27,120
Speaker 1: to Josh Downs or Gould whenever Anthony does get back

2497
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 1: to full health. Reminder again six point thirty tonight, our

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02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 1: coverage will begin that his Pacers and Hornets inside a

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02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:36,960
Speaker 1: game bridge Field House. Currently the Pacers a one point

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02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 1: underdog against the four win Hornet Totally. Jeff will be

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Speaker 1: back with us tomorrow. Kevin Bow and James Boyd to

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Speaker 1: Mark Dyton signing off here on this one