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Speaker 1: with us again. Later, doctor Sabe's son Abdul will update

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Speaker 1: us on his brother's situation with ICE's brothers being held

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Speaker 1: Faith Brothers will check in. Before the Faith Brothers, author,

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Speaker 1: filmmaker and psychologist doctor Martin Dunn will report on his

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Speaker 1: fight to block Miami Dade College's plans to donate land

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Speaker 1: Dundough brother Obi will join us. But before we do

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Speaker 1: all that, let's get Kevin to open the classroom doors

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, Carl Nelson, how are you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning, brother, I am still learning.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a perfect position to take, and and

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Speaker 3: that's how you become a master teacher as well.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, if you got knowledge, you're supposed to pass

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Speaker 1: it on. What does it do? If you know something

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Speaker 1: keep it to yourself?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Man's really cold outside, man, thirty two degrees. Of course,

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Speaker 3: it's outside we're referring to. And today is the third

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Speaker 1: It's a hump day, first hump Day in December.

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Speaker 3: Button up your overcoat and take care of yourself. And

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Speaker 3: I think the hump froze though. Man, it's frozen.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 3: Look, Tennessee's special election shows why the GOP should be worried.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, know, what do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they should be concerned.

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Speaker 1: They went all out for this race that the Trump

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, what is it? You're either the fire or

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Speaker 1: Said yeah, he won, but you know he wasn't convincingly

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, moving right along.

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Speaker 3: Then, the Trump administration cancels temporary immigration protections for Haitians.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Trump administration, they're pause of immigration and Applications

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Speaker 2: Because who who?

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Speaker 3: Know, Afghanistan, Iran, Libya, and Somalia, Barundi, Cuba, Lyles, Sierra Leone, Togo, Yeah, Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: brother Obie. But the attack of the hearings now they have,

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Speaker 1: them all. He said, say that, you know, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Know, and he called sleepy Joe. Any things come around you,

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Speaker 1: But here's a before we go, Kevin and I hope

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Speaker 2: And have a good morning gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: All right, Brother Obi and brother for the folks you're

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Speaker 5: Who you know. I'm a I'm an organizer, of course,

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Speaker 5: But so Brother Carl, as usual, thank you for giving

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having over, thanks for having me calling.

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Speaker 1: Hey brother brother on TI him. But your story doesn't

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Speaker 1: you know, because your story is incredible because a lot

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Speaker 6: Well, I was a concentrated in nineteen ninety two. In

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Speaker 6: had an agenda. It was all about a movement. So

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Speaker 6: when I established Harvard City during my thirty years, I

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Speaker 6: So when I came to Ours City, it's not just

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Speaker 6: my mission is, I was getting tired of people, Well, candidates,

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Speaker 6: politicians will always sit up there in anthems, certain problems.

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Speaker 6: We got to sit up there and you know, create solutions.

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Speaker 6: So when I came to Ives City, I always stay

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Speaker 6: we have to thrust back and bring the neighbors back

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Speaker 1: I want you to hold that thought there because we

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Speaker 1: We got to take our first. But when we come

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Speaker 1: And my question to you, could this have been done?

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Speaker 1: it they call it what they call it phone, those phones,

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Speaker 1: you do you think you could have achieved what you

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Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family. Thanks are waking up with us

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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday morning. It's it's a hump day. Brother

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Speaker 1: Obie's brought listen, He's brought a guest, a brother Antoine,

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Speaker 1: and he started a successful business on h Street in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. But that's the end part of the journey.

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Speaker 1: You want to give us a little bit of the

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Speaker 1: my question to you before we left the break was

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 6: I don't think so, because I think my experners at

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Speaker 6: Homie been in prison.

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Speaker 4: I was ejected.

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Speaker 6: I felt alone, you know, It's like it was a

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Speaker 6: great deal of despair. So when I reflect it back,

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Speaker 6: I wanted to be the champion that I need it

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Speaker 6: do need a champion. Again, we need to like readdress

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm more lnt event more so with the guidance

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Speaker 5: But a brother Carl, brother Antoine is being humble. The

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Speaker 5: quality of these clothes are amazing. So brother tone, what

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Speaker 5: I wanted you to do real quickly, we'll connect us

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Speaker 5: when did you start developing the clothing line and.

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Speaker 1: White clothes and white clothes, brother, and white clothes first,

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Speaker 6: Everyone loves styles and a lot of times that I

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Speaker 6: that's my meaning of Actually, they had movement. They have

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: That's my way of articulating, you know, my programming, articulate

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Speaker 1: So you're saying you speak through your clothes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, say that, brother Karl, and listen, brother Karl.

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Speaker 1: No, he responding because I question what he just said.

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Speaker 1: I said, he speaks. You know people, people use different

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Speaker 5: So, brother Anton, I'm understanding the legacy of fashion in

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Speaker 5: So I just wanted to praise you for the quality

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Speaker 5: have blended fashion entrepreneurship and community organizer. So I wanted

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Speaker 5: you to discuss your atonement program in DC jail and

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Speaker 6: Well, my Atona project over the jail is actually a

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Speaker 6: So if we can stop the census violence in the

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Speaker 6: actually have them, I believe that we actually you know,

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Speaker 4: With individuals.

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Speaker 6: And so that's really my aim over to jail, to

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Speaker 6: So that's what my atonement project as far as my

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Speaker 4: No, the battle raps in it was amazing because you

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Speaker 6: Well, the battle rap was actually a co promotion with

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Speaker 5: Also, you mentioned earlier there are some core principles that

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Speaker 6: Well, one of the principle's characters, I believe that character

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Speaker 5: To uplifting humanity.

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Speaker 6: Also, I use was integrity integrity. A lot of people

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Speaker 6: You know, it's like, you know, we have to have

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Speaker 6: So these are these are just a few other foundations

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Speaker 6: And I believe that he's individuals should have a guid

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Speaker 1: All right, family is just waking up twenty eight minutes

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Speaker 1: with him this morning, his brother Antoine. He's got an

437
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Speaker 1: incredible story how he started in captivity. Now he's building this, uh,

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Speaker 1: this clothing line and it's based in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: On Hient Street. So brother, brother Obi, I let you

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Speaker 1: finish it, you know, with sharing the his experiences because

441
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: already I got two people said that it was really

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00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: so far what they've heard is very inspirational. And this

443
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: is part of what we're trying to do that if

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Speaker 1: brother Antoine can do it, you can do it. And

445
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: he got his the brain channels when he was sitting

446
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Speaker 1: behind bars and he came up with this idea. So

447
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: if those of you are not behind bars, you're free

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Speaker 1: to come up with anything and do it. But brother

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00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: and Antoine tell us about because you know it starts

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Speaker 1: Starn the business Anton Starn a business he usually takes capital,

451
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Speaker 1: takes money. How did you get across that hurdle?

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Speaker 6: Well, actually I have I have a sponsors, I have

453
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Speaker 6: people who believe in me. I have actually my wife

454
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Speaker 6: actually believed in So it's like it was more so

455
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Speaker 6: a donaged like being in prison. I started all selling

456
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Speaker 6: T shirts and putting my message on T shirts. Then

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Speaker 6: it's scale actually to sweat Hoods, but ultimately it scaled

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Speaker 6: to Jackets. Was my Jackets was actually it was the

459
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Speaker 6: new because of my brand, everybody loved my jackets. I

460
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Speaker 6: was telling my jackets for four or five hundred dollars

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Speaker 6: and you know, I had put a wave. But like

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Speaker 6: you were saying, I want people and concerrated. Don't use

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Speaker 6: this obsession of the time to actually, you know, become dejected.

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Speaker 6: Don't become a casualt of your setback. Believe in your

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Speaker 6: believe in the freedom. I had a life center without parole,

466
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Speaker 6: and you know I believed and I dreamed about my freedom.

467
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Speaker 6: You have to you have to dream and you have

468
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Speaker 6: to believe in it. And I believed in my freedom

469
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Speaker 6: and going hold, I'm not going to stay it like this,

470
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Speaker 6: but it dropped right out of the sky. I had

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Speaker 6: a media release in twenty twenty two, so actually now

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Speaker 6: I can actually really birth my hour city and you know,

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Speaker 6: from then on, you know, it was it was frustrating

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Speaker 6: at times, but you know I'm here now with a

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Speaker 6: store off Ah Street thirteen forty two A street and

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Speaker 6: off and it's dunstantly growing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just got a tweet here at thirty minutes after

479
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Speaker 1: the top of the Our Family that's that's on tour

480
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Speaker 1: with us and brother Obie Tweeter wanted to know what

481
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Speaker 1: way you incarcerated for and how long?

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Speaker 6: Well, I was a conserrated for thirty years, too much

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Speaker 6: less than thirty, so that makes you know it wasn't

484
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Speaker 6: a complete thirty year package. I was in concilerated for

485
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Speaker 6: being a leader of a CP and the Rico Act

486
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Speaker 6: of a conspiracy to distribute drugs in nineteen ninety two.

487
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Speaker 6: I was found guilty in ninety four, and actually I

488
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Speaker 6: was also charged with up crimes, but actually a lot

489
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Speaker 6: of them was actually hung Jersey. But I was sentenced

490
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Speaker 6: to a life sentence for the basic distribution of drugs

491
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Speaker 6: with the one hundred and one ratio era. What freed me,

492
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Speaker 6: what actually freed me was the fair sentence and Act,

493
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Speaker 6: staying that the one hundred and won racier. It was

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Speaker 6: racist and unconstitutional.

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Speaker 5: All right, brother antone, you're about to start begin entering

496
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 5: the podcast streets where the fire that decision?

497
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Speaker 6: Well, my podcast is that actually it's actually being birth

498
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 6: based upon I see that d C in the DMV

499
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 6: areas actually overlook the talent. We have a flood of

500
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 6: talent in the city, but actually we be overlooked. And

501
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 6: I believe that the media, the media is actually a

502
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 6: way of actually to value our talent in the city.

503
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 6: So that's where my podcast is actually injured. And more

504
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 6: so it inspired me to become a podcaster. You know,

505
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 6: I see a lot of people use their podcast actually

506
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 6: for negative and you know, blast me the next I

507
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 6: don't want that. I want to be able to upscale

508
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Speaker 6: our talent and let the world see DC is beyond

509
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 6: just the politics that the world showed or just you know,

510
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 6: the subpart city that the people could so upon through

511
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 6: other people media's and aspect. I want the people to

512
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Speaker 6: see the academic for the city, the music of the city.

513
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 6: I want people just to see the town.

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Speaker 5: Last year, brother Anto, you're co defendant Eric Hicks, and

515
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 5: I had the honor of playing a small part in it.

516
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 5: We organized a form the first forum in history where

517
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 5: we dealt with drugs and guns throughout this hemisphere. Through

518
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: your networking, we were able to get freeway Rick Ross.

519
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 5: We had the Nicaraguan ambassador to the United States of

520
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 5: Venezuelan diplomat and our sisters and brothers in Mexico, Honduras

521
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: and Colombia using the springboard at Washington, d C. Which

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00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 5: is how we began our correspondence five years ago. What

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00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 5: made you desire to take DC is a springboard and

524
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 5: put it on the world stage focusing on the issue

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Speaker 5: of that magnitude.

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Speaker 6: Just like I expound earlier over, our city is not

527
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Speaker 6: just about d C. It's about all urban cities. All

528
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Speaker 6: urban cities actually is going through the same injustice that

529
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Speaker 6: DC is going through. So it's easy for me to

530
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Speaker 6: relate outside of DC. And my thing is is our people.

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Speaker 6: That's actually the core value of our city. It's our people.

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Speaker 6: So our problem, our solutions are the thing. I believe

533
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 6: that if we all come together for a solution and

534
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 6: correct these problems, then we have to bring back the

535
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Speaker 6: neighbors to the neighborhood. So you know, that's where I

536
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 6: say people missed informed thinking our city is just about DC.

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Speaker 4: It's not.

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Speaker 6: It's just was born in DC, and it is about

539
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 6: urban city because every urban city has actually been devastated

540
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Speaker 6: by the injustice of a system.

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Speaker 5: While you were incarcerated, Brother Antoine, you also were able

542
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Speaker 5: to highlight another phenomenal skill you have. You developed a

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Speaker 5: writing open letter campaign and you targeted the National Conference

544
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 5: of Black State Legislators, the National Conference of Black Lawyers,

545
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 5: National Bar Association, highlighting incarceration and your writing ended up

546
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 5: at Alabama State University through a brother, doctor Robert White,

547
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 5: who teaches criminal justice there at a time where the

548
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Speaker 5: state of Alabama has two hundred and seventy prisons, more

549
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Speaker 5: people incarcerated in Alabama than in India and China. How

550
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 5: did it make you feel to see that writing campaign

551
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 5: bear that type of food and be used in the HBCU.

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Speaker 6: It actually inspired me. But when I wrote them letters,

553
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 6: I was definitely in pain. I was definitely seeking help.

554
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 6: It's like like the majority of prisoners right now, they

555
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 6: need help, they seek help, but you know it's like

556
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 6: some people pens don't even reach you know, actually people

557
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 6: that they're trying to reach out to that they have

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00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 6: my outbea they don't have our pen actually been played

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00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 6: with ink for nothing in prison. So, like I told you,

560
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 6: I want to become that champion I needed when I

561
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 6: was in prison. So when I wrote that letters ORB,

562
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: I wrote it from a scale of pain. I wrote

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00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 6: a scale of beings ejected. So it's like it felt

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Speaker 6: good actually that you know, Professor Fight actually intercepted my

565
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 6: letter and actually you helped, you know, you know, publish

566
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Speaker 6: my letter. So when it became worldwide and was actually

567
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Speaker 6: published on your world news. You know, I was inspired

568
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Speaker 6: to really like burk Our City and there I'm gonna

569
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Speaker 6: be a platform, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Fella's hold that thought right there. We gotta check

571
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: the news, and we're gonna check the news and sport

572
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: some weather in different cities twenty four minutes away from

573
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Speaker 1: the top of our family. I guess his brother Obi,

574
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Speaker 1: he's brought along with a guest for himself and brother

575
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Antonin telling his incredible story. Brother Anteton, I got a

576
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: tweet question for you, A tweter wants' if you're working

577
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: with the Nation of Islam And we come back here

578
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: and answer that. And I'm sure brother Obie's got a

579
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: bunch of questions for you as well. Family YouTube can

580
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Speaker 1: join our discussion. Reach out to us at eight hundred

581
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Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

582
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Speaker 1: a phone calls after news that's next and Grand Rising

583
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Speaker 1: Family in Facts are waking up with us on this

584
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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, another hump day, the first hump day of December.

585
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: I guess his brother Obi's interviewing Brother Antona has an

586
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: incredible story making it all the way from captivity now

587
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: to be a successful businessman in Washington, d C. Before

588
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: we go back to it, let me just remind you.

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Speaker 1: Coming up later this morning, we speak with doctor to

590
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: save his son, Abdul. He'll be here also, the Faith

591
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: Brothers are going to check in. But before we get

592
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: to the Faith Brothers, we're gonna speak with doctor Marvinton.

593
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: He's a psychologist, a filmmaker, he's an author and in

594
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Miami and he's finding a Miami Dade County college. They've

595
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: planned to donate some land to build the Trump the

596
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: Trump Presidential Library. So he's going to tell us his story.

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Speaker 1: And coming up today went Connor. Tomorrow we're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from the Master Teacher himself. Brother Asho Aquasi will be

599
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: here also, Chairman Fred Hampton will join us, and Nubian

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Speaker 1: Leadership Circles. Brother Sadiki Butacahan will also be here. So

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Speaker 1: if you're in Baltimore, make sure he keep it ready

602
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: tied into ten ten WLB or if you're in the

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Speaker 1: DMV round fourteen fifty WL. All right, brother, and tell

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Speaker 1: the tweeter wanted to know if you work with the

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Speaker 1: Nation of Islam, and I know ob he's got a

606
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: bunch of questions for you as well.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not a member of the Nations of Islam,

608
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 6: but however I did work with Aaron Muhammad. He's a

609
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 6: supreme captain throughout the United States with the four I

610
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 6: had to have work with him. In fact, he actually

611
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Speaker 6: accompanied me inside the jail for.

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Speaker 4: My Atoma project.

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Speaker 5: All right, brother Obi, Yeah, Brother Antome is one of

614
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Speaker 5: the best writers of our generation. And when we first

615
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 5: started corresponding about five years ago, he told him, and

616
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Speaker 5: he was very humble how he received it that I

617
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 5: truly felt that his writing was an extension of George

618
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Speaker 5: Jackson's writing. So I wanted him and he also recently

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Speaker 5: he's very particular who he honors. He chose to use

620
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Speaker 5: his platform to honor our fallen comrade Jamil l Amine

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Speaker 5: formerly known as h rav Brown. So I wanted them

622
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Speaker 5: to talk real quickly about George Jackson's influence on his

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Speaker 5: writing and why he chose to pay homage to Jamil

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Speaker 5: el Amine.

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Speaker 6: Well, George Jesson actually was a a spiritual figure for

626
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 6: me in prison, and I related more so with his

627
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 6: writings with his struggle as far as not just in conservation,

628
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 6: but with his paternal you know, hardship. So when when

629
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: I read George and it became introduced to George. It's

630
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Speaker 6: like I saw a lot of myself. I saw a

631
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Speaker 6: lot of my cries. So my letter actually was a letter,

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Speaker 6: actually a write because I never thought that I had

633
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 6: the talent to write. My letters was a cry. My

634
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 6: letter was a cry. It was a plea for help.

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Speaker 6: And when I was shot down on the First Sentence Act,

636
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Speaker 6: which I later appealed and won, I wrote everywhere. I wrote,

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Speaker 6: almost every nucleus of media. I wrote. Actually the Black

638
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 6: Lawyers Association just was writing. And actually my letter was

639
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 6: a plea. It was a cry. So it really like

640
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 6: astound me when I sit up there and actually was

641
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 6: getting fed back more so about my letter about the

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00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 6: unconstitutionality of what I was writing about, and I was

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00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 6: like wow, it was like it gave me hope and

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00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 6: it gave me a new charge. So it's like people

645
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 6: in prison were looking to the show right right right,

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Speaker 6: Try to sit up there, whether whether it's actually you know,

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00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 6: you know, you get any response just right, because that's

648
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 6: what you're getting out your system. And you know, I

649
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 6: believe in God. So the spersuality, you know, it's gonna

650
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 6: move you and you're gonna be blessed, you know, because

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00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 6: we have to, we have to put our labor into it.

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Speaker 6: So as far as h Brown, he was a phenomenon.

653
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 6: He was a figure of an example. When you came

654
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 6: across him and he spoke, he spoke with such courage,

655
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 6: such you know, like like found faith and you know,

656
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 6: he was an inspiration.

657
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: So when he.

658
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 6: Failed, it was just another one of our champions who actually,

659
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 6: you know, believe in his race, believe in the struggle,

660
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 6: believe in his people. And you know, sadly that it's

661
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 6: more so that he didn't have much time to actually

662
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 6: advocate who he is and what he's about.

663
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: All right, how I thought right there, two off away

664
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: from the top of our family, Brother Antoini is on

665
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: with brother Obi. Incredible story here and folks want to

666
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: talk to brother Brother antoon Anir is calling from Washington,

667
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: DC's online three Grand Rising an on with Brother Obi

668
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: and Brother Antoine.

669
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 5: Brother Obie. At the very beginning of the Joe, you

670
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 5: were talking about gentrification and you started to say that

671
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 5: we didn't have certain things in the city. Before you

672
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 5: got cut off for the commercial. I was wondering if

673
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 5: you could go back and express your views about gentrification

674
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 5: and about local politics, but in the city. But could

675
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 5: you first talk about what your views are as far

676
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 5: as what has happened to the city was being gentrified,

677
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 5: and then talk about what you feel about what's going

678
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 5: on with the local politicians, mayor and the award for

679
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: people or for the award people I've been saying award

680
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 5: council members. All right, thanks, Yeah, that was that was

681
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 5: That was my brother antone talking, So you can go

682
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 5: ahead and answer that one brother zone. Yeah, I was

683
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: talking to Antime.

684
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 6: Okay, gentrification actually, like it's like I said, it's blockade

685
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 6: more so of the development in the city. It took

686
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 6: so much out the city. When I came home, I

687
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 6: noticed that the schools no longer have vocational programs. Everyone

688
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: is not an academic. And when I speak about you know,

689
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 6: there's no neighbors in the hood no longer before mind conservation. Well,

690
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 6: when you know, when we come home from school, if

691
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 6: our parent wasn't home, we actually can sit with our

692
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 6: neighbors until our parents come home. That's no longer. That's

693
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 6: not longer of reality. So it's not just about the gentrification.

694
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 6: And you know in the city that for the neighborhood

695
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 6: is devastating the whole city, because most of our politicians

696
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 6: don't even live in the city. You know, they might

697
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 6: have an address in the city, but they don't even

698
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 6: live in the city. They commute outside the city, and

699
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 6: they no longer from DC. A majority of our politicians

700
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 6: not from DC. So when you speak about you know

701
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 6: the relations of d C and you know don't even

702
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 6: know the orders of d C, there's no compatibility with

703
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 6: our politics.

704
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: All right, brother, we have another question for.

705
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 5: This is my final question for Brother Anton. She also

706
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 5: brought attention to some and very important when I was

707
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 5: having a conversation with him at the celebration of his opening.

708
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 5: He talked about the fact that when people get businesses

709
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: off the ground, they talk about empowerment, but they don't

710
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 5: identify resources within our community amongst our people to get

711
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 5: the process off the ground. So he made a concerted

712
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: effort to identify people in our community, of our generation,

713
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 5: that represent our culture, that represent our experience. I wanted

714
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 5: to know why he was so deliberate in letting that known.

715
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 6: Well, you know, like you said, we lost the culture

716
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 6: in DC. When you actually go into there's no more

717
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 6: mom and pop stores in the city. It's really actually

718
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 6: not too many black owned, you know, entities. So it's

719
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 6: like I have a neighboring. I'm on a street and

720
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Speaker 6: I have a neighboring Hispanic shop that when I went

721
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 6: in questions, they don't even live in DC. I went

722
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 6: across the street and to you know, the air rap

723
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 6: you know development, they don't live in d C. So

724
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 6: a lot of times our money that's not being circulated

725
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 6: or reinvested back in the communities, it's taken away from

726
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 6: d C. So it's like we would never have an

727
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 6: upgrade of you know, entrepreneurs and all that when we

728
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 6: don't have no models. So it's like it was important

729
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 6: to me to you know, to sit up there and

730
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 6: establish residents of my business on a street because not

731
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 6: just for the historical, you know, aspect of it, but

732
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 6: it's to sit up there and contend and let people

733
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 6: see that we do have black owned businesses and we're

734
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 6: willing to scale black owned business and encourage it.

735
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

736
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Speaker 5: But yeah, brother Tom, But I meant in terms of you,

737
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: the labor, the labor that you hired, and the people

738
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: that work behind the scenes, you made a concerted effort

739
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 5: to make sure that they look like us. And I

740
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 5: wanted try to share with the audience while you felt

741
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 5: that was so important.

742
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 6: It was important because this this actual development company was

743
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 6: called re Arrange Rearranged Development. They actually was black owned

744
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 6: and you know, black employed. So it's like it was

745
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 6: important to me to hire them versus Hispanics because with

746
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 6: the Hispanics, we'll never get that money back. One thing

747
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 6: that I admire about them, they circulate, they funds and

748
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 6: you know, their vocation with each other. So it was

749
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 6: important to me to actually employ this black owned businesses

750
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 6: because I'm black owned, and you know, I feel that

751
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 6: we need to start investing with each other. We need

752
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 6: to start supporting each other again.

753
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: All Right, it sticks away from the top of this

754
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: and go ahead, brother will be.

755
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 5: No brother Carl. Before we left, I just wanted to,

756
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: like I promised you, I wanted to just mention and

757
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: I want to thank you for posting it because I

758
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 5: know that you're going to I wanted to end by

759
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: just highlighting the press conference that we're having tomorrow afternoon.

760
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, tell us about that because Donald Trump,

761
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: now that the word, you know, you never can tell

762
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: what's real and what's the memo rex on the internet,

763
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: but the word is that he's possibly going to say

764
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: ground troops into Venezuela, if you've heard that exactly.

765
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: And I have.

766
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: A fifteen year history of working with the Bolavarian Republic

767
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: of Venezuela, the people in revolution of Venezuela. But because

768
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 5: it's a press conference, I'm just going to tell people

769
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 5: who they're going to hear tomorrow. You're going to hear.

770
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 5: Venezuela's main diplomat on the African continent is Excellency Ambassador

771
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 5: haesu's Chucho Garcia, who is currently stationed in Benin, but

772
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 5: he's Venezuela's representative to the African Union and he was

773
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 5: the one who shaped their Africa policy in terms of

774
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 5: the continent, but the diaspora as well, because if you

775
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 5: know anything about Venezuela, the Africans in Venezuela identify with

776
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 5: the europa culture of Nigeria. So he'll be speaking tomorrow.

777
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 5: He's one of their most seasoned, advanced diplomats. But he'll

778
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 5: be joined by our sister who used to be the

779
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 5: first secretary to their embassy in Washington, Favo Marquez, who

780
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 5: is now the second advisor to the National Assembly. That's

781
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 5: the equivalent of the United States Congress or the Senate.

782
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 5: But she's also the spokeswoman for afro Cumbe. And what

783
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 5: afro Cumbe is, that's the movement within Venezuela that promotes

784
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 5: the African identity and African personality. And if you've been

785
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 5: focusing on Venezuela and their role in promoting the African personality,

786
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 5: they're the first nation in the Americas to say that

787
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 5: our people of African descent need to call themselves that

788
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 5: we don't need to say where African, American, Black, American,

789
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 5: Afro Caribbean, Afro Latino. Let's just say we're African descendants

790
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 5: for the purpose of uniting over two hundred million Africans

791
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 5: in the Western Hemisphere, North America, South America, Central America,

792
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 5: Latin America, and the Caribbean. So they're going to be

793
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 5: speaking specifically to every aspect of what has been going on,

794
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 5: and not just with the Trump administration, but from the

795
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: moment that their revolution prevailed. So they're going to be

796
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 5: doing that at one thirty tomorrow. All the information on

797
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 5: the is on the flyer house. It's a webinar's platform,

798
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 5: but it is a press conference on April thirtieth, and

799
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 5: I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.

800
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: Brother Carl.

801
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 5: You were part of an initiative if we created called

802
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 5: the Shirley Graham du Boys William Worthy Media and Friendship Collective,

803
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 5: which is to get media outlets from all over the

804
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 5: Western hemisphere. So tomorrow is our first press conference in

805
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 5: that capacity. So that's what we're going to deal with.

806
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 5: And the theme is Thenezuela speaks to Mother Africa and

807
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 5: their Children. So that's tomorrow one thirty East Coast tar.

808
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 5: You can check Brother Carl's Facebook page. He's going to

809
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 5: post that. But my Instagram is at Obi e g

810
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 5: b u n a one five. My ex formerly Twitter

811
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 5: is at j R e g b u na and

812
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 5: Obi e g b u n a one five at Gmail.

813
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 5: But I wanted Brother Antoine just to go over the

814
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 5: business hours of our city when he is open, so

815
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: you all can go there and give the franchise the

816
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: support it deserves.

817
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: All right.

818
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: I hold that thought right there because we've got to

819
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: step aside and get caught up with the traffic and

820
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: within it at different cities. So we'll do that when

821
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: we come back, and Brother Obie also explain to to

822
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: the family. It's all the alleged attacks from threatened attack

823
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: on Nigeria and Veniceuela. Is it all about the oil

824
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: that they have? I'll let you explain that when we

825
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: get back as well.

826
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: Families.

827
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned there's two minutes away from the top day out.

828
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: We got to check the traffic and weather or not

829
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: different cities. Then we come back with Brother Obie, Brother Antoine.

830
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: We'll do that next and grand Rising family, thanks for

831
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: starting your Wednesday with us. Moment tale we speaking with DODR,

832
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: Doctor Dunn, DOCTR, MAFVN Dunnet and down in Miami. But

833
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: right now we we were spoken with Brother Obie and

834
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: also Brother Antoine. And I think the question was Brother

835
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: Obie if he could give us the address the times

836
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: the story is open on H Street.

837
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, you.

838
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 5: Want to give the address to the store and you're

839
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 5: opening hours hours of operation.

840
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: I think he may have left us, all right. I

841
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 1: think he's gone, Brother Obie. Okay, so real quick because

842
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: we have Dr Marvin done on deck coming up. Uh

843
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: And my question to you these are threat assault on

844
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 1: Venezuela and Nigeria. Is it all because of the oil

845
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: of these both of these countries have.

846
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 5: Well from a geopolitical standpoint, that is the resource that

847
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 5: the country is blessed with, Yes, but it goes way

848
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 5: beyond that. When the Bay of Pigs invasion on Cuba

849
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 5: failed in nineteen sixty one and the blockade was imposed

850
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: on Cuba in nineteen sixty.

851
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 4: Two, President John F.

852
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 5: Kennedy said, what makes Cuba a threat to our interest

853
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 5: in the Americas is not even their ability to maintain

854
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 5: their revolution, but the inspiration that they give to others

855
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 5: to follow, their courageous to follow their example. So when

856
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 5: you look at what happened to Salvador Allende in Chile

857
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy three, to see how the CIA attactive

858
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 5: government for that reason. Ten years later, our beautiful brother

859
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 5: Maurice Bishop, at the age of thirty nine, the same

860
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,959
Speaker 5: age as Brother Malcolm and Doctor King, was snatched away

861
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 5: from us when the Reagan administration invaded for the same

862
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 5: reason Nicaragua the San Denista victory. The reason that crack

863
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 5: cocaine was introduced to our community was to generate in

864
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 5: the additional capital to overthrow the Sandinista Revolution at a

865
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 5: time where the Nicaraguan nation had the largest African population

866
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 5: in Central America, and when brother Antone and I first

867
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 5: started working together and he wanted to deal with the

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Speaker 5: drug question. I told him that we never have sat

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Speaker 5: down with the Nicaraguans to amplify that point. So, yes,

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Speaker 5: oil is the resource that Venezuela possesses, and of course

871
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Speaker 5: this is the reason why Morales was overthrown in Bolivia.

872
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Speaker 5: So any nation in the Americas that takes a socialist

873
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 5: ques or socialist direction, and in the case of Venezuela,

874
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Speaker 5: their revolution has that nationalist and pan Africanist character. If

875
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Speaker 5: Chavez walked down the street of h Street, you would

876
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Speaker 5: think he was a light skin relative of yours. As

877
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 5: we say in DC, we'd call him red Hugo, light

878
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 5: skin Hugo. That's how we refer to each other when

879
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 5: we deal with complexion dynamics. And as you remember, Brother

880
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 5: car he talked about look at his African lips, look

881
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 5: at his African nose, look at his wooly hair. And

882
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 5: Nicholas Morduro has also stressed the African personality. So Venezuela

883
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 5: is not a threat just because of their oil, but

884
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Speaker 5: because of their decision to be a socialist nation, but

885
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 5: because of their nationalist and pan Africanis approach. To their

886
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 5: socialist revolution. That's why they are threat I'm speaking in

887
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 5: generalities because I don't want to divert attention away from

888
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 5: this incredible press conference we have coming up tomorrow, where

889
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 5: once again you will hear from his excellency, Ambassador Hasten's

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00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 5: Future Garcia, Venezuela's representative to the African Union station in

891
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Speaker 5: Beneen and the spokeswoman for the African Descendant Movement in

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Speaker 5: Venezuela called April Kombe, the honorable frob and Marquez Silva,

893
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Speaker 5: and both of them identify as African before anybody begins

894
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 5: to ask that. When we're off, so that'll be tomorrow

895
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 5: at one point thirty, Brother Karl will post the information

896
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Speaker 5: on his Facebook page and we look forward to seeing

897
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Speaker 5: all of you there.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, brother Obie, thank you, Brother Anton,

899
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: and congratulations and good luck.

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Speaker 2: Brother.

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Speaker 5: Name is Antone and.

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Speaker 1: Antone, Thank you all right, family, Wen move on eight

903
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: after the top of the our incredible person coming up

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Speaker 1: next to my good friend, Rodney Baltimore Hot one oh

905
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Speaker 1: five in Miami, says anything you want to know about

906
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: black Miami, this is the person you need to talk to.

907
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: His name is doctor Marvin Dunn. He's a historian, he's

908
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: an author, he's a filmmaker also psychologist, Doctor Dunn grand Rising,

909
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: welcome to the program.

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00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 8: Thank you very much.

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00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: And I just mentioned some of the things that my

912
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: brother Rodney told me about you. But just give us

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00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: a thumb, a little bit of your background. This is

914
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: sort of an initiation process on this program.

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00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 8: Sure well, I was born in Florida. Eighty five years ago.

916
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 8: I finished Morehouse College and went to the Navy for

917
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 8: about seven years the naval officer. Came back, got my

918
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 8: degree in psychology from the University of Tennessee, and came

919
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 8: to Miami in nineteen seventy two and began working at

920
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Speaker 8: the university excuse me, working at Florida International University for

921
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Speaker 8: thirty six years. And during that time my special focus

922
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 8: ventist was racism, race conflict, and ultimately lynching and race violence.

923
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 8: I've done a lot of work in those areas, particularly

924
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Speaker 8: on lynching in Florida, and basically that's that's that's that's

925
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 8: been my activity. I'm also an author of several books.

926
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Speaker 8: In fact, to have one coming out in just a

927
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 8: few weeks. I wrote a book for middle school kids

928
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Speaker 8: in Florida on the history of blacks in Florida. You

929
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 8: may know that we're having a lot of trouble here

930
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 8: in our state with our governor and the legislature suppressing

931
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 8: the teaching of black history. So much of our work

932
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 8: lately has been trying to teach black history through means

933
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 8: that would allow the subject to be taught getting around

934
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Speaker 8: the state government.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll have you back to talk about that

936
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: fight that's going on, But you've got another issue dealing

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Speaker 1: with right now with Miami Dade. Miami Dade College, Can

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Speaker 1: you share that with the audience, doctor don oh Yes.

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Speaker 8: Miami Day College, which is the largest community college in

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Speaker 8: the country. Their vot of trustees back in September passed

941
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 8: of motion to give land worth sixty seven million dollars

942
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 8: to the Trump Library Foundation for Donald Trump to build

943
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 8: his President's or Library on the most expensive land in

944
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Speaker 8: downtown Miami. Were just given to them but nothing being

945
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 8: asked in return. And the President intends to build a

946
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Speaker 8: fifty five story building to contain condos or luxury condos, hotel,

947
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Speaker 8: and other structures commercial structures on that property. And I

948
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 8: resented that most people in Miami present this. We do

949
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 8: not want a Donald Trump Monument fifty five story condo

950
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 8: building on our doorstep. In fact, a local pole was

951
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 8: done a few weeks ago that showed that seventy four

952
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 8: percent of the people in Miami Dade County do not

953
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Speaker 8: want our land given to the Trump President's library. Even

954
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 8: fifty nine percent of Republicans Miami don't want our land

955
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 8: given to Donald Trump for his library. And yet it

956
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 8: appears if that's going to happen. I found a loss

957
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 8: back in September to stop this, and the judge greed

958
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Speaker 8: with me and has put an injunction on the giving

959
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 8: way of the land to the Trump Foundation. So we're

960
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 8: now expecting to go to trial on this matter in August.

961
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 8: Just yesterday, the Nimi Dade College Board of Trust tried

962
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 8: again and did in fact pass again in motion to

963
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 8: give the land away. In spite of the racist public

964
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 8: audience saying don't do it. They voted to do it

965
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 8: again anyway. But the lawsuits that I filed is not

966
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 8: going away. We will stay the course with these but

967
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 8: this issue until the court decides that they can do it,

968
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 8: and I don't think the court's going to make.

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00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: That determination, all right, just joined us, I guess you

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00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: Dotor Marvin Dunn, as you mentioned, this was one of

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Speaker 1: these strong brothers that we have in Miami County, Bami

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00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: Dave County as a historian, an author, a filmmaker, a psychologist,

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Speaker 1: several books. Wanting to come back and talk about that

974
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: book later on. But this fight with this Trump Presidential Library,

975
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: doctor Don, is it because of location or you just

976
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: don't think it should be built anywhere in Miami Dade.

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00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 8: Well, it's the fact that the land's being given to

978
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 8: the to the President's foundation is the main, main opposition.

979
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 8: And yes, the fact that it is the most extensive

980
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 8: and most prominent land in downtown Miami, and people here

981
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 8: just don't want a Trump building with the name Trump

982
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 8: and blazon at the top welcoming people into our city. Frankly,

983
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 8: my view is that that land should not be given

984
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 8: to any former president, shouldn't be given to Obama. But

985
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 8: yet that's what we're facing. Yesterday. The meeting was useless, meaningless.

986
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 8: They listened to eighty people and then with no discussion,

987
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 8: took the same boat they did before. And so then

988
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 8: moving ahead, let me just add one thing that night,

989
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 8: the Trump president of the Library Foundation is three people.

990
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 8: Three people, Eric Trump, his wife Laura, and some dude lawyer.

991
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 8: That's it. That's who they're giving our land to. So

992
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 8: we're going to fight this all the way to the

993
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 8: to the end.

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00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: Wow thirteen after Tom to the residence of Miami Dade

995
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: County to know that there's only three people on this

996
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: on this foundation that want to give And that's one question.

997
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: Two questions who owns the land? Is it owned by

998
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: the city, the school or or the county?

999
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 8: Oh owned The land is owned by Miami Dade County,

1000
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 8: by Miami Dade College. The land belongs to the college.

1001
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 8: The college is giving it back to the state so

1002
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 8: that the santas our government can give it to Trump.

1003
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 8: And yes, most people don't know that the Trump Presidents

1004
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 8: or Library Foundation are just to be people. People don't

1005
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 8: know that this is really a gift to the to

1006
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 8: the Trump family. They will make millions of dollars on

1007
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 8: this property. The commercial value of the property is then

1008
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 8: ass made it three hundred million dollars. Must they developed it?

1009
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 8: So why is this gift being given to Trump by

1010
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 8: by the state of Florida except as a political gift

1011
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 8: to appease Trump. Uh. So we're going to fight this

1012
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 8: as far as we can take it.

1013
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: Fifteen other topic a doctor Dunn. But doesn't Donald Trump

1014
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: own property in Miami? I know in Florida. I know

1015
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: he's got where he lives now up in West Palm

1016
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: Beach and.

1017
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, hes just the golf course in Durriael. He also

1018
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 8: owns popperty Lur Lagu. But he is the only thing

1019
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 8: in Miami. He ols nothing in Miami at all. This

1020
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 8: is an attempt to get a commercial development on the

1021
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 8: most expensive property downtown Miami. And that's that's what we're

1022
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 8: fighting against.

1023
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: And we're kind up on breaking and when we come back,

1024
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: I'll let you explain this to the dynamics of Miami,

1025
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: because most of the listeners don't know the dynamics of Miami.

1026
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: Miami right now is predominantly Cuban, if you will, or

1027
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: predominantly Hispanic, and they voted that way in the last election.

1028
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: Does this have anything to do? Do you think because

1029
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: they want to appease Donald Trump? I know, he's just

1030
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: some of the Venezuelans are having a bier's remorse of

1031
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: supporting Donald Trump down there. Do you think this is

1032
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: the political aspect of it? Because you mentioned the members

1033
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: of the Miami Dade College voted approved, board voted to

1034
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: give this land to Donald Trump. And if you can

1035
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: tell us the makeup of those if you know where

1036
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: they are, are they Hispanic?

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00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 5: Is?

1038
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: I guess my question is the whole political Hispanic deal

1039
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: the many violations. Who don't live or don't know what's

1040
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: going on in South Florida, you can share that with us. Family.

1041
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: You two can join our conversation with our guests. Doctor

1042
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: Marvin Donald's one of our smart brothers in Miami Davis.

1043
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: Tell you if you want to find out what's going

1044
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: on in Miami Dade County, this is a man you

1045
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: need to talk to. You could reach him this morning

1046
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy

1047
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls after this short break.

1048
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for rolling with us on this Wednesday morning, hum Day.

1049
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: Thank you for just checking in. Our guest is Dr

1050
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: Marvin Done. Doctor donis psychologists, a filmmaker, he's an author

1051
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: historians in Miami Dade and he's opposing the building of

1052
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: the Trump Presidential Library on some land, as he mentioned,

1053
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: owned by the Miami Dade College. And this is where

1054
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: the fight started. But doctor Dunn. Before we left the break,

1055
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: I was asking about the racial dynamics of South Florida

1056
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: and Miami Dade era because watching the elections, they said

1057
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: the Miami Dade was once blue and they flipped to red.

1058
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: Explain how this plays all into this fight for the

1059
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: president of the Trump Presidential Library on the Miami Dade

1060
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: College campus. Hello, yeah, doctor don did you hear the question.

1061
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 8: I did not hear the question. Please repeat it.

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01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, The question was, you know, explain the racial

1063
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: dynamics of that area in South Florida and Miami Dade

1064
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: County because you know, during the election, they were all

1065
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: excited because they said Miami Dade County was once blue

1066
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: and somehow to flip red. Is this an appeasement? This

1067
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: is the new Republicans want to show their love for

1068
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: Donald Trump where they want to build the Presidential Library

1069
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: on the Miami Dade College campus.

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Speaker 8: Let me be a part of it, but let me

1071
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 8: be very clear, Donald Trump has lost support among Hispanics

1072
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 8: here in Miami because of his immigration policies. There's a

1073
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 8: lot of backing back away from Trump because of this.

1074
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 8: So I think the effort to put that library on

1075
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 8: this campus would have gone forward anyway, but it's been

1076
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 8: over I think stated how much support Trump has in

1077
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 8: Miami Dade County. This is really a blue county. In fact,

1078
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 8: in order to prevent us from resisting this library being

1079
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 8: in Miami Dade County, the governor had a law passed

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Speaker 8: as the legislation that prevented any city or county in

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Speaker 8: Florida to have anything to say about presidential libraries. That

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Speaker 8: was to cut out in the opposition to the library

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Speaker 8: being placed in a blue county. But we are resisting anyway.

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Speaker 8: But they're trying everything they can to rally Hispanic support,

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Speaker 8: particularly in a lot of the fact that Trump seems

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Speaker 8: to be losing support. Maybe not so much among Cubans,

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Speaker 8: but I suspect even there, but certainly among other uh

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Speaker 8: Hispanic immigrants here in Miami Dade County here lately, especially

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Speaker 8: in Venezuela's this was going on the Trump and Maduro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a question too the makeup of the school board.

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Speaker 1: The college school or Miami Day College School board, a

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Speaker 1: mostly Hispanic voted to to have the library builts on

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Speaker 1: the campus.

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Speaker 8: That is an excellent question. The Board of Trustees of

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Speaker 8: Miami Dade College has seven members They're all Hispanic. There's

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Speaker 8: no diversity on that on that board, and they were

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Speaker 8: all appointed by DeSantis, our governor, uh and they reflect

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Speaker 8: the governor's point point of view. All Hispanics, No blacks,

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Speaker 8: no whites on that board board at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. I'm so lost for

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Speaker 1: WORDSK you know, how how did that happen? What happened

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Speaker 1: is is there is there a migration issue in that era.

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Speaker 1: Are any black? So why should living in Miami Dade County?

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Speaker 8: Well, black people are leaving Miami. My own son moved

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Speaker 8: to Oklahoma just a couple of years ago. We are losing,

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Speaker 8: particularly the black professional class. There's a sense, I think

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Speaker 8: among young black people here in Miami that this is

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Speaker 8: not a place for them. But if you don't speak

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Speaker 8: Spanish or have a certain political point of view, you

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Speaker 8: will not make it here in Miami. So we're losing

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Speaker 8: of black people. The city in Miami now is probably

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Speaker 8: about eighty percent Hispanic, not all that is Cuban. The

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Speaker 8: other twenty percent or so is maybe twelve percent black,

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Speaker 8: and then maybe less than ten percent white. So this

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Speaker 8: is basically a count in the city in which we

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Speaker 8: are losing black people because of the sense of not

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Speaker 8: being comfortable in this community anymore.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five on the top there with doctor Morby done,

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Speaker 1: doctor Dunn, doctor claud and told me one of the

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Speaker 1: he wrote the first, I guess, the first affirmative action

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Speaker 1: measure in the country. Uh ruben Ascue was a governor.

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Speaker 1: He was working for ruben Ascue, and he said, the

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Speaker 1: sisters worked on the hotels the Miami Beach. They were

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Speaker 1: being replaced because they were told they had to speak Spanish.

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Speaker 1: And these were elderly sisters, and there's no way they could,

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Speaker 1: you know, they think about going to school and learn

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Speaker 1: how to speak Spanish at you know, in your forties

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Speaker 1: and fifties and sixties, these women just close to retirement.

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Speaker 1: They so he came in wrote what was now turned

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Speaker 1: into affirmative action for the entire country because of that cause.

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Speaker 1: And eventually, you know, some of those he said, those

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Speaker 1: many of those early room they retired or left. And

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Speaker 1: he says, the Hispanics are now using affirmative action to

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Speaker 1: justify that they because of their the amount, the number

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Speaker 1: of Hispanics for jobs, even for local jobs, you have

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Speaker 1: to speak Spanish. Is the requirement? Is that still going

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Speaker 1: on down there.

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Speaker 8: It is still going on. There was an ad in

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Speaker 8: while ago a few years ago actually asking for people

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Speaker 8: to work as constilas janitors to downtown Miami, and the

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Speaker 8: requirement was that you must speak Spanish, and we were outraged.

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Speaker 8: You got to speak Spanish to clean toilets in downtown Miami.

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Speaker 8: But that was a kind of thinking that we had,

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Speaker 8: certainly after the Marielle boat lift brought so of the

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Speaker 8: Hispanics into Miami, the sense that you can't do anything

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Speaker 8: in mine monless you speak Spanish, including cleaning toilets.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, the Mario boatlift. How soon did that change?

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: What was the dynamics and political dynamics in Miami? How

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01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: soon did did all that change? How soon did they

1150
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: because they're just Guya the other day after it was

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Speaker 1: on the sixth, so it took.

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Speaker 4: A day for that.

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Speaker 8: Sime the Maurieals arrived in Miami within the course of

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Speaker 8: probably a week or two, when we had several thousand

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Speaker 8: people coming into miamt the same time, and it changed everything.

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Speaker 8: Most of those folks who came in were settled in

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Speaker 8: the black community, which pushed housing for black folks.

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Speaker 4: To the limit.

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Speaker 8: As the Mariels came in some black schools went on

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Speaker 8: double shift that had never happened in our school system.

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Speaker 8: Hospitals became stressed because of the fact that so many

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Speaker 8: poor patients who were Hispanic Marriell's coming in meeting services.

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Speaker 8: So there began to evolve in Miami back in in

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Speaker 8: nineteen eighties and early eighties, this sense of being pushed out,

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Speaker 8: the sense of being removed by folks that are coming in.

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Speaker 8: And there are some trictions about that that are still

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Speaker 8: very raw here in Miami.

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Speaker 1: So where where did that people move to? If they

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Speaker 1: moved out of Miami Dade.

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Speaker 8: A lot of them went to Atlanta, But to be

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Speaker 8: many folks moved west. We noticed the migration of blacks

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Speaker 8: out of the South to the west, not to the north,

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Speaker 8: but basically out to the west, California and other states

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Speaker 8: out west.

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Speaker 1: All right, hit at the top of our family. I

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Speaker 1: guess it is doctor Marvin Dunne. He's a historian. He's

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Speaker 1: also a filmmaker as a psychoagist. He's an aufice written

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Speaker 1: several books about Miami Dade County. And see they're finding

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Speaker 1: to stop the building of the Trump uh Presidential Library

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Speaker 1: on the campus of Miami Dade College. Mark is joining

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Speaker 1: us from Houston. He's online one Grand Rise and Market

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Speaker 1: on with doctor Dunn.

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Speaker 9: Well, great rising, My brother's how y'all doing this morning?

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Speaker 9: Y'all doing all right this morning?

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Speaker 8: Doing well?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 9: Well, Yeah, I just want to say, uh, I don't

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Speaker 9: I don't blame the brothers from leaving from Miami day

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Speaker 9: because what had happened in two thousand bus versus or

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Speaker 9: it was all standing out there vote, I mean getting

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Speaker 9: ready to vote there they come up with the most

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Speaker 9: fixed up by paying a chance, missed out mess up

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Speaker 9: the publican party. But speaking of we're talking about Trump. Uh,

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Speaker 9: he can't run for president anymore, so it really doesn't

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Speaker 9: really matter what to Hispanics or whatever, because you know,

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Speaker 9: he's a convicted feeling, so he's doing what he what

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Speaker 9: a convicted feeling will do. I mean, he's breaking all

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Speaker 9: the rooms in the laws and everything, so he don't

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Speaker 9: have he don't have nothing to lose. Getting what I'm saying,

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Speaker 9: he asked, Although, yeah, the Hispanics is that, you know.

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Speaker 9: But I'll tell you what though I heard you say

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Speaker 9: that they'll tell us some jobs down there, and I'm

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Speaker 9: sure that was just word of off by speaking Spanish

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Speaker 9: because it's not in the paper and writing. Because if

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Speaker 9: there's anything that says that you got to speak Spanish

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01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 9: to get a job, we need to get the FEDS

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Speaker 9: involved down there, Florida, and we need to stop this

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Speaker 9: mess because English is our language and uh no one

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01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 9: should be big of taking jobs from people who speak English.

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Speaker 9: And that's something that needs to be dealt with or

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01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 9: strictly really should be something should be tons about that.

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Speaker 9: If that's happening down there, you understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: We need we need to stop this.

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Speaker 7: Man, what are you?

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Speaker 1: Thanks? Marcus Talk had done a chance to respond.

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Speaker 8: Well. I think the current political climate in Florida is

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Speaker 8: one in which the idea of diversity, of trying to

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01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 8: have people have businesses and institutions retract the people who

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01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 8: live or who work in them, that day is gone,

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Speaker 8: at least in Florida. There's a sense in any effort

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Speaker 8: to have any diversity anywhere is somehow know the anti

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Speaker 8: American means you hate the country, etc. So we're fighting

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Speaker 8: that very very strenuously here in Florida. I don't think though,

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Speaker 8: that affirmative action legislation is relevant at all or would

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Speaker 8: be useful at all. It takes I think more direct

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Speaker 8: economic and political activity to try to stop it. But

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Speaker 8: we're working in a deep hole out here trying to

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Speaker 8: have any progress towards maintaining diversity in the workplace in Florida.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Mark and Houston.

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Speaker 4: A couple of tweets here.

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Speaker 8: It's true though, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Mark, got a couple of tweets for you,

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Speaker 1: doctor don At thirty minutes at the top of the hour,

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: one tweet says, the land in question is next to

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Tower. It's the which is the Elis Island

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Speaker 1: for the Cubans. Is that true?

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Speaker 8: That is true, and it's also very inciting to a

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01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 8: lot of us, including too many Cuban Americans. They're going

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01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 8: to put, if they have their way, the fifty five

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01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 8: or sixty story condominium building right next to the Freedom Tower,

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Speaker 8: which represents to many Cuban Americans the very fact and

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Speaker 8: active freedom. And now you have the president who has

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Speaker 8: been the most violent and resisting and immigration and in

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 8: suppressing diversity in our country. To have that building next

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Speaker 8: to a Trump presidential library is perverse, it's sick, it's insulting,

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Speaker 8: and I think many folks in the Keeople American community

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01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 8: appreciate appreciate that too. If they put that building next

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Speaker 8: to it's next to the Freedom Tower, the Freedom Triwer

1249
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 8: would be dwarfed by it. You would even see it. Uh,

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Speaker 8: if they have their way. There's a lot of feelings

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01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 8: about the fact that they're trying to put that building

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Speaker 8: next to the Freedom Tower itself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: Another tweet says, so why this is.

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Speaker 2: Sweet?

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: It says, why helpen a library for a man who

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01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: can't read it?

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Speaker 8: Well? Uh, what I'm trying to have people understand though,

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01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 8: is that this really is not a library. They're not

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Speaker 8: talking about a library. They're talking about an economic development

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01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 8: project that would enrich Eric Trump and his wife. It's

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Speaker 8: not a library. They may have a little corner of

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01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 8: one of the buildings US member of a shop like

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Speaker 8: it should be, but that would be about it.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that they'll have this building, but it

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Speaker 1: basically be a condo with a gift shop in the

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01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: lobby or something. Is that a U envision this Trump

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Speaker 1: Presidential Library?

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Speaker 8: Well, Eric Trump told us what it's going to be.

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Speaker 4: Eric Trump's.

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Speaker 8: It's going to be an iconic building on this came Boulevard. Uh,

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Speaker 8: and He stressed, how the Trumps build and they're going

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Speaker 8: to make Miami our skyline beautiful with this huge Trump

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01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 8: building next to the Freedom Tower. So we know what

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Speaker 8: they plan to put up. And I reiterate the library

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01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 8: part of is being used as a rust to get

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01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 8: the land, to get the rights to put this thing up,

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 8: and then to make millions and millions of dollars for

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 8: Eric Trump and his wife.

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Speaker 2: Have you have you?

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01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 1: Have you said that to the members of the Miami

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01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: Day College School Board. Do they understand what you just said,

1283
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: what you're sharing with us this morning, Doctor.

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01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 8: Don I said it yesterday morning. I had three minutes

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 8: to appear before the Miami Dade call ITGE Board of

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01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 8: Trustees about eighty people. This is unpleadre you asked that question.

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01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,839
Speaker 8: They only had this meeting yesterday because of the lawsuits

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01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 8: I filed that they did it wrong the first time,

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01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 8: so they had to do it again to try to

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01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 8: get out from another lawsuit that I filed, and they

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01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 8: messed it up. They had a public meeting in which

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Speaker 8: they gave eighty people anyone who showed up to speak

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 8: three minutes to speak. I had my three minutes. I

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01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 8: spoke consaidered what I had to say, and then after

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Speaker 8: we all spoke three minutes, they voted Trustees. Each member

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Speaker 8: spoke for a couple of minutes, and then they voted.

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Speaker 8: They voted unanimously to do this. There was no discussion

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Speaker 8: among them about anything that was said for.

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Speaker 5: Three hours before them.

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Speaker 8: Not a word of discussion among them. So this thing

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Speaker 8: was already planned before we had the meeting. Their votes

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Speaker 8: were set. It made no difference to what we said

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Speaker 8: in the course of those three hours, and we will

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Speaker 8: used that as a part of our comeback to the judge.

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Speaker 8: But this was not really community engagement. This was just

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01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 8: trying to g out of the Dune lawsuit and it

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 8: did not work.

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Speaker 1: Are you concerned out, doctor dummod They may come after

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01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: you personally since you sort of leading this charge, or

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Speaker 1: stop the Trump Presidential Library on the campus of Miami

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Speaker 1: Dade College. Come after you personally.

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Speaker 8: I raised three funds, but for the first time in

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01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 8: my life, I have a gun on my nights stand.

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 8: They are crazy people here. Trump is a very popular

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01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 8: figure among extremists, the Proud Boys, a baser in Miami,

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01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 8: and a lot of folks do not like what I'm doing. Yes,

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01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 8: a lot of people do not appreciate the fact that

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01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 8: I'm standing in Trump's away. But what are you supposed

1319
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 8: to do? Let these people take public land and use

1320
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 8: it for political purposes. That land belongs to our unborn

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01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 8: children and personal risk. I'm a hero, I'm no martyr.

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01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 8: I'm just pissed and I won't stand for it.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of people behind you?

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01:14:59,120 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 4: Though?

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: I hope you this is not a solo fight that

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01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 1: you're doing down there in Miami.

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 8: I have a lot of people behind me. Thank you

1328
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 8: for asking. We took twenty letters printed letters to that

1329
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 8: board meeting yesterday. Twenty letters that we got in in

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01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 8: the course of four or five days made no difference.

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01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 8: How can people on me page? I had raised up

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01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 8: fifty five thousand dollars in the last three or four weeks,

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01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 8: the people contributing, because you know I had I had

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01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 8: to borrow one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to put

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01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 8: up for bonds my case to go forward against the

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01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 8: Miami Dad College Board. UH. And people are helping me

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01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 8: with that by by the go fund me page that

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01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 8: I established. So it's an expensive, UH undertaking, It's a

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01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 8: risky one. Financially, we could lose. I could lose, But

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01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 8: the option is to stay silent and let this happen

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01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,440
Speaker 8: without without.

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01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: Protest twenty four away from the televiet So how can

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01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,919
Speaker 1: folks help you? Doctor Donald? Will give us that information

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01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: right now, and I'll let you give it before you

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 1: leave as well, thank.

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01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 8: You for asking. They could go to go fund me

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01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 8: and just put my name in, doctor Marvin Dunn. Just

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01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 8: go to go from me page and put in my

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01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 8: name and they will be able to make a donation

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01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 8: to our effort. Even though my attorneys are working pro

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01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 8: Donald and I have excellent attorneys, the costs involved beyond

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 8: that are extremely high. You have to see this case

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01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 8: by all the way to the Florida Supreme Court. So

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 8: if people want to help me, please do go fund me,

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01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 8: doctor Marvin Dunn, and please help that you can.

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01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: And if you will, Doctor John, you mentioned it could

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01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: go all the way to the Florida Supreme Court or

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Speaker 1: even to the Supreme Court of the land. How confident

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01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: are you though, because many of those folks who are

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01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: sitting on those those supreme those courts of the Trump

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: followers and the appointing many of its How.

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Speaker 8: Comfort because this is so blatantly wrong that I think

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01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 8: even Republicans on the Supreme Court, State Supreme Court will

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01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 8: see it is not. For example, if the if the

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Speaker 8: college board gives us land against our lawsuit to the

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Speaker 8: state for the scientists to give to Trump, that's against

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 8: the law. There's a law short of it. You can't

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01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 8: apologize old.

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Speaker 1: I thought, right there, Doctor Den, we got to step

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01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: aside and check the news traffic and wear out different

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01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: seats when we come back, explain that law for us.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three minutes away to the top of the our family.

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Speaker 1: I guess he's Dr Marvin Done. He's one of the

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01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: movies and shake us down in Miami. They tell me

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01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: anything you want to know about black dat in Miami,

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01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: he asked Dr Marvin Done. Anyway, he's fighting to stop

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01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: the building of the Trump Presidential Library on the grounds

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Speaker 1: of Miami Dade College. The college wants to give him

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01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: that land to build that library. And he says he's

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01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: just being a condo with a accession store. And that's

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01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: what Doctor Dunn says, what are your thoughts? Eight hundred

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Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, And we

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01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: ticket calls after the news that's next and Grand Rising family,

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: thanks for rolling with us on this Wednesday morning. Our

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01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: guess is dtr Marvin Done. Doctor Dunn is a historian,

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Speaker 1: he's an author, a filmmakers, a psychologist, is from Miami

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Speaker 1: Dade and he's fighting to stop Miami Dade College from

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01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: donating land that's owned by the public, of course, to

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump to build his presidential library. Before we go

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Speaker 1: back to it, now, let me just remind you come

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Speaker 1: up later this morning we get here from doctor Sabey's

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01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: son Abdulla will join us. But before the Abdulla, the

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Speaker 1: Faith Brothers are going to talk about the reason for

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01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: the season Christmas, and coming up tomorrow you're going to

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01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 1: hear from their master teacher himself, Brother Ashua Quasi will

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01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: be here chair and Fred Hampton will all step in

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Speaker 1: as well. Tomorrow being the anniversary stats Assassin Nation in Chicago,

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01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: he's going to talk about that and the new Leadership

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Speaker 1: Circle's brother City could come on. We'll be here as well.

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01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: So if you are in Baltimore, make sure your readers

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01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: locked and tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're

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Speaker 1: in the DMV, we're on fourteen fifteen w L. All right,

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01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: doctor Dunn before we left for the news update. My

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01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: question to you was, obviously is this going to you

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01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: gotta fight on your hands, and you've got people helping you,

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01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: and we're going to give out the information how people

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01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: can help you as well. But you just ain't gone

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: all the.

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Speaker 2: Way to the court.

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Speaker 1: The first the Florida's State Supreme Court, and then if

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01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: van may go to the other supreme court, Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: But these courts is as I mentioned, are stacked with

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Speaker 1: with Trump supporters.

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Speaker 8: How well, because you know, the only hope that I

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01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 8: have for our country is in the courts. I do

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Speaker 8: believe in judges. I think that most judges are fair

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01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 8: minded people, even though they may have been appointed by

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01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 8: this is that President, I still maintain faith in the courts.

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01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 8: And even in Florida, one politician cannot give away public

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Speaker 8: land to another politician as a favor. So if the

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Speaker 8: the board of trustees of vironment Day College are successful

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Speaker 8: in giving its land to the state, and we don't

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Speaker 8: prevail that on that issue, then we will file a lawsuit.

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01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 8: I will fillow lawsuit against the state, which we'll call

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01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 8: into question whether or not public property can be given

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01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 8: as the political prize by the governor to a plical friend.

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 8: So this this, this fight not over. I appreciate you

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01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 8: letting folks know how they could help. I'm not a

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01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:08,440
Speaker 8: rich person. I'm a retired professor, So we do appreciate

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01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 8: people going to the go funding page and looking at

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Speaker 8: my name and helping out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor don thirteen away from the topic. If anyone

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01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: from the Trump side or from the Governor's side try

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01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: to buy you off, or try to talk you out,

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01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: or try to convince you to drop the lawsuit, you know,

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01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: to try to get you out of the way.

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Speaker 8: When I filed a lawsuit, one of my attorneys spoke

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Speaker 8: to me saying that he wanted someone wanted to know

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Speaker 8: how much it would take for me to drop the lawsuit,

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01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 8: probably someone with an interest in the development part of it.

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01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 8: And my answer was, there's no amount of money that

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Speaker 8: would that would make me drop this lawsuit. Plus if

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01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 8: I did that, what would people think of me? That done?

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01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 8: Got bought off like the rest of them. So no

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01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:03,919
Speaker 8: one for it from the Trump you know, a political

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01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 8: circle that has made any approach to me, and I

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Speaker 8: don't expect them to.

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Speaker 1: All right, family, A doctor donn is fighting to stop

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01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: this is finally to give away this land, and he

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01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: said the land belonged is in public land that belongs

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Speaker 1: to the college in that space. Does that mean if

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Speaker 1: the college.

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Speaker 8: Lost to Mamady College, which makes it public land. It's

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01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 8: the public college, So yes, it is. You know, it's

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Speaker 8: a public institution. They keeps throwing up on the other side,

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01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 8: keeps throwing up the Obama Library. What about Obama. I've

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01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 8: made it very clear that even if Obama was given

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Speaker 8: this land, I would have a problem with it. But

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Speaker 8: if you know anything all about the Obama President's the library,

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01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 8: the land that that library is going to be on

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Speaker 8: remains in the hands of the city of Chicago. Chicago

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Speaker 8: didn't give Obama land for his library. None of the

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Speaker 8: other President's libraries, as far as I know, have condominiums

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Speaker 8: have a profit making businesses at the president's President's Library.

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Speaker 8: That's just a Trump thing. Other President's libraries have had

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Speaker 8: their issues, but this is the first one that's that's

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Speaker 8: proposed to build a commercial development that would be extremely

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Speaker 8: enriching to the people who own the library and control it.

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Speaker 8: In this case, that would be two Trumps and a

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Speaker 8: lawyer that we don't know anything about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and doctor DOWNA earlier tweets said that the land

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Speaker 1: in question is next to the so called Freedom Talent,

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01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: which is the Ellis Island for Cubans. How do they

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Speaker 1: feel about, you know, in that down there, how do

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Speaker 1: they feel about that? Given Trump's stance on immigration now

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01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: he's going to all going after immigrants and this, this

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Speaker 1: Freedom Tower was I guess erected or built or it

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Speaker 1: is the Elis Island for the Cubans who left Castro's Cuba.

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Speaker 1: So how do they, especially the Cubans, how do they

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Speaker 1: feel about that? Especially Trumps away from Trump.

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Speaker 8: Trumps losing support over this. The Freedom Trial was built

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Speaker 8: as a news for a newspaper. Miami used to have

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01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 8: two major newspapers and that building was put up I

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Speaker 8: think in the nineteen twenties for the Miami News newspaper,

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Speaker 8: which went to Funk and has the property has gone

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Speaker 8: through several owners since then, but it is an iconic

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Speaker 8: building in Miami and the Cubans I have a very

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Speaker 8: strong affinery for that building. And now that Trump has

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Speaker 8: taken the attack that he has taken on immigration, including

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Speaker 8: as some Cubans feed immigration policies that hurt them, Trump

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Speaker 8: is losing support among Cubans here in Miami and among

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Speaker 8: other Hispanics as well. So I'm not quite sure that

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Speaker 8: the fact that he won Miami Dade County last time

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Speaker 8: around means anything coming up to the next election. He

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01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 8: has done a lot on immigration that has alienated him

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Speaker 8: from much of the Hispanic community here in Miami Dade County.

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Speaker 1: Were talking about the because Miami, they can't answer scieneble

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01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: Venezuelan population there are they do they have buyer's remorse

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Speaker 1: or they're still rolling with Trump?

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't know. I can't say. All I

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01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 8: can say is that there's a lot of turmoil in

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Speaker 8: the Hispanic community about what Trump is doing in immigration policy,

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Speaker 8: and it's not set setting well with a lot of

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Speaker 8: people who are static.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned that hearings yesterday or yeah, yesterday or

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01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: day before you mentioned that hearings, Yes, so yesterday's hearing

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Speaker 1: the people who opposed could you tell the difference of

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Speaker 1: racial You know, some of us like to say the

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01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: racial game, because the usually in America comes down to that.

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01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: But could you tell the racial makeup of those who

1511
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: are supporting the building and those who are against the building?

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01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 4: Yes?

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01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 8: Uh, they managed the other side managed to get the

1514
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 8: young Republicans on that campus to come in and make

1515
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 8: statements of support for the for the library. But the

1516
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 8: room had that's a a couple hundred people in it,

1517
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 8: and the overwhelming majority of the folks there were opposed

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01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 8: to it. So, yeah, that was kind of a show

1519
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 8: of support by.

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01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 4: The folks if they had come in and said.

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01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 8: That they wanted it, but it was a minority among

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01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 8: the folks who participated yesterday.

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01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: All right, ate away from the top of our family

1524
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 1: with Dr Marvin Done from Miami. He's a he's a historian,

1525
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: an author, as a filmmaker, psychologist, as he says, he's

1526
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: a retired college professor, and he's finding the Trump administration

1527
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: that the Miami Dade College wants to donate part of

1528
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: their land to build his presidential library. And it's Doctor

1529
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: Dunn says, Eric Trump is bosi. It's going to be

1530
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: a condo attached to the library, and it's some sort

1531
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,799
Speaker 1: of money making effort for the Trump family and probably

1532
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: just have a gift shop in the lobby and call

1533
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: it the Presidential Library. Interesting. Another tweet for you, Doctor Done.

1534
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: The tweet says, it makes me hopeful that there are

1535
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: still freedom fighters like you. We need to clone you.

1536
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 1: God will protect you on this mission.

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01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 8: Thank you that I appreciate that comment. But I'm eighty

1538
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 8: five years old. We need young people on the front

1539
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 8: lines when we need folks to pick up the mantle

1540
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 8: on this in this age, especially so you know, I

1541
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 8: was born the same as John Lewis was. We need

1542
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 8: young people to come forward, and I know that it's

1543
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 8: risky for them. I mean, I'm a retired professor. They

1544
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 8: can't do anything but stop my pay check at the university.

1545
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 8: But I got seven kids. I'll be fined. But we

1546
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 8: need younger leadership to be on the forefront to move

1547
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 8: us forward as this country slip far and further to

1548
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 8: the right. And I believe that leadership will emerge. We

1549
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 8: see some encouraging voices coming forward already in Congress and elsewhere,

1550
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,879
Speaker 8: so there may be a change that will be apparent

1551
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 8: when we have the new term elections to show that

1552
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 8: there are young people class to coming forward to to

1553
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 8: take the mantle.

1554
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: Are you encouraged, though you said, I heard what you said.

1555
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: You said what you said, But are you encouraged? Are

1556
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: you seeing these young people step up? Not just you know,

1557
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: we see one or two in Tennessee, for example, young

1558
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: young democrats are stepping up. But on the on the whole,

1559
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: the entire look at it, the entire landscape, political landscape.

1560
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: Are you seeing a lot of young people come up

1561
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 1: there and want to challenge Like back in the sixties

1562
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: people did that. Are you seeing that today, doctor, don

1563
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1564
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 8: I'm not seeing that today. You're you're you're quite right

1565
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 8: about that. We have some uh some some inndivisions around

1566
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 8: the country who are in fact coming forward. You're right

1567
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 8: about that. But you know, the civil rights movement caught

1568
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 8: fire because the the the wrongs that we could be

1569
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 8: that were being committed during that time were known and

1570
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 8: obvious to everybody. So you had not just black people,

1571
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 8: but white people also saying this is wrong. What we

1572
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 8: need now is a new coalition of blacks and whites

1573
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 8: and Hispanics for that matter, and Jews and others to

1574
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 8: move forward, to come together as we did back in

1575
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 8: the sixties. But I don't think the sense of threat

1576
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 8: is as great as it was then, So people don't

1577
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 8: see as much of a need to get out there

1578
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 8: and risk the jobs or even their lives to try

1579
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 8: to make things better. So I think we will see

1580
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 8: a lot of that kind of energy in the next

1581
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 8: the mid term cycle, I think we'll see the kind

1582
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 8: of energy that I'm hoping to see emerge at that time,

1583
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 8: and if not, I think we'll certainly see it by

1584
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 8: the next presidential election with this president huge running. But

1585
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 8: I think in aftermath of his presidency, I think we'll

1586
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 8: see a lot of turnaround in the country in the

1587
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:48,839
Speaker 8: next presidential cycle.

1588
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: So doctor John, again, how can we help you?

1589
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 8: Please go to my gofunding page. As I said earlier,

1590
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 8: I had to borrow money for this fight, and if

1591
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 8: we have to sue the governor when he tries to

1592
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 8: give this land to Trump, that will be another fight.

1593
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 8: So even though I have lawyers who are working very

1594
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 8: hard for me at no cost, the expenses of a

1595
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 8: case like this are just enormous. So if folks would

1596
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 8: please go to gofund me and then look my name

1597
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 8: up and just help out, it would be very much appreciated.

1598
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: That's the question again. Their name again, is Marvin done?

1599
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Doctor Marvin done? Doctor don Before we let you go

1600
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: the book that you're about to release, because I want

1601
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: you to come back and talk about that book.

1602
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 2: The title of that.

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01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 8: Book, and African American History of Florida is the title

1604
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 8: of the book, written from middle school students. The most

1605
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 8: difficult book I've ever written. I've written books for PhD

1606
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 8: couple people, but try to write a book for eighth

1607
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 8: waders explaining institutional racism. That's the challenge. But that book

1608
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 8: is done. It should be out before Christmas, and I

1609
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 8: think it's going to be well used in Florida in

1610
01:29:56,479 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 8: our schools. I'm sorry, none of our school but church

1611
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 8: schools and many Black paths are doing homeschooling in terms

1612
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,799
Speaker 8: of black history. So I'm hoping that book will be helpful.

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01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll have you back to talky with

1614
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: that book next time. Dr Dunn, I would you want

1615
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 1: to thank you, thank you for starting up the fight,

1616
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: and thank you because you're inspiring people out there and

1617
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: have to get involved and hopefully some people will will

1618
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: donate and you know, try to stop the building of

1619
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: the Trump Presidential Library on the college campus of Miami

1620
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: Dade College. Thank you, doctor Dunn.

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01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 8: Thank you so much for doing a chance to talk

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01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 8: to folks about that.

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01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 4: Thank you.

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01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 1: All righty family, that's doctor Marvin done for Miami. Three

1625
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 1: minutes away from the top. They always step aside and

1626
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: get caught up in the ladies traffic and where they

1627
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: will come back to. Faith Brothers are going to talk

1628
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: about this the reason for the season. You know what

1629
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: season I'm talking about? You want to join the discussion.

1630
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: Hit us up at eight hundred four five zero seventy

1631
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 1: eight to seventy six. We'll take the phone calls after

1632
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: the news, after the traffic raw then weather that's next

1633
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks, join us on this Wednesday

1634
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: morning and we'll talk to the Faith Brothers and doctor

1635
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 1: j Edmonds and also past the current manny that Grand

1636
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: Rising well in the listeners, all right, and doctor and

1637
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,600
Speaker 1: uh pastor coming in. I don't see his name on

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01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: the screen. Past a maunting with us apparently not all right,

1639
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: Doctor Jay Evans. We're going to talk about the reason

1640
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 1: for the season. We know the season is the Christmas season.

1641
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: Some people already had questions for you. But it says

1642
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: Jesus is the reason of the season and says the

1643
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 1: meaning of advent. What what do you mean by that advent?

1644
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 4: Well, it's a word that generally just means awaiting and

1645
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 4: is an anticipation of something coming or someone coming, and

1646
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 4: it's a countdown up to those particular days. So it's

1647
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 4: a Eurocentric formulation that had been interwoving into spiritual worship,

1648
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 4: anticipating the Messiah, first of all Christ coming and then

1649
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 4: anticipate his return as well. So there were those who

1650
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 4: anticipated his coming based on the Torras, based on the

1651
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:21,480
Speaker 4: writings of Isaiah, the Messiah would come that within hisself

1652
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 4: was an advent. When he did manifest himself in this

1653
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 4: sphere spear. There were those who believe in those who

1654
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 4: did not believe. Therefore, that's why we have the crucifixion,

1655
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,520
Speaker 4: from those who did not believe that he the Messiah

1656
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 4: had come. And then after his crucifixion, in his resurrection,

1657
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 4: there was a promise that he would come back to receive.

1658
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 4: Those who actually believe that he is the Messiah, who

1659
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 4: believed that he actually did die by the Roman's hand

1660
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 4: on the cross, believe that he arose from the Great

1661
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 4: So the anticipation leading up to his return surrounds the act,

1662
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 4: and generally it's four weeks prior to the day that

1663
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 4: they set and called Christmas.

1664
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 1: All right, five at the top of a mark from

1665
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 1: Anaheim already says he says Hellot and He said that

1666
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 1: some people used to consider him as a child proligy.

1667
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: He was teaching Sunday school at age nine, and however,

1668
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: by age ten, I said one year he considered a prior.

1669
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: He was considered a prior because he questioned the following

1670
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: and one of the things he questioned, Doctor Edmonds's Christmas

1671
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: trees is strictly forbidden in the Book of Jeremiah, but

1672
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,919
Speaker 1: church members practice cutting down trees for Christmas.

1673
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 2: What say you?

1674
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 4: There are a lot of things that the Christian community

1675
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 4: has embraced for little or no reason or little or

1676
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 4: no understanding that they say that which surrounds those particular

1677
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 4: embracings and the ornaments, the trees, commercialism that is centered

1678
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 4: around Christmas itself, these are all things that were brought

1679
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 4: in by Eurocentric people. And just as it is today,

1680
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:30,879
Speaker 4: association brings about assimilation for those who are not aware

1681
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 4: of their true essence of who they really are and

1682
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 4: aware of the truth concerning an issue or matter. And

1683
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 4: so it is the Christmas tree itself. It used to

1684
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 4: be whereas one would almost worship that tree. And I

1685
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 4: believe that's what the caller or the one pose that

1686
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 4: question is leaning towards because it was a sort of worship.

1687
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 4: It represented so many things that were not sound and

1688
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 4: not based in the worship of God, and so therefore

1689
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 4: there was a contradiction there, one that was quite grave

1690
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 4: as a matter of fact.

1691
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: So, and I'm just jumping here eight minutes after that's

1692
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: how they had dtoramams. Because brother Ashbrod question, you're going

1693
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: to be here tomorrow. He's going to talk about that

1694
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: some of those symbols. But another question from Mark from Anheim.

1695
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: He says, the Santa Claus nickname is old Nick and

1696
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 1: old Scratch. I didn't know that, which are the same

1697
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:45,799
Speaker 1: names for the devil. Yet church members had children believe

1698
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 1: in that dynamic spite sprite? Is that true?

1699
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 2: Doctor?

1700
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 1: Is that true that those the names for the devil?

1701
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Scratch is the name of the devil. It was

1702
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 4: a localism, Eurocentric localism in the manner of the middle

1703
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 4: of winter in Germany and in Europe, they would pose

1704
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 4: a celebration, and that celebration would be centered around supposedly

1705
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 4: bringing in some sort of joy in the middle of

1706
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 4: the darkest days of the winter. So people really embraced that.

1707
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 4: Saint Nicholas was that which that name, which was given

1708
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 4: in Germany, and it was supposed to be this mystical

1709
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:48,879
Speaker 4: figure initially, and that mystical figure was given certain names,

1710
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 4: Scratch being one of them that was of course associated

1711
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,480
Speaker 4: with the dark world or the dark side.

1712
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 1: So, yes, gonna ask you this, do you think most

1713
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 1: Christians understand that what the question that Mark ran, I'm

1714
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,719
Speaker 1: supposed about the devil in Santa Claus.

1715
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 4: Well, just as your previous guess who is so astute

1716
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 4: and political science and those particular things, there are so

1717
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 4: many people, as he expressed, that are not aware of

1718
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 4: what is actually happening. And why I always stress to

1719
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 4: my students and to those who I speak to, it's

1720
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 4: not enough to hear something and parent it, but to

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01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 4: understand it and know the genesis of it is what

1722
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 4: is important. When people know the genesis of a thing,

1723
01:37:56,080 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 4: they're more apt to at least embrace it to the

1724
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 4: degree that they can consider all of the components and

1725
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 4: then come to a resolution. The same thing applies to

1726
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 4: knowing what's behind something when it comes down to our

1727
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 4: ethnicity as a people, as a Black people, as an

1728
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 4: African person, and so understanding and getting behind it is

1729
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 4: what happens. And unfortunately, a lot of church members do not.

1730
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 4: They are then deep enough or it's not brought to

1731
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 4: their attention on that level to the degree that they

1732
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 4: can embrace it and then consider it poor resolution.

1733
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:00,120
Speaker 1: But DoD damn do you teach your students they did

1734
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: you tell them about the devil connected to Santa Claus.

1735
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:08,679
Speaker 4: I've telling them about all of the components that are

1736
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 4: centered around Satia. Saturnalia was a Greek god and dealt

1737
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 4: with agriculture and within the winter, so justice, I tell

1738
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 4: them informed them about that, about the origin, how they started,

1739
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 4: how did it get out of hand and metamorphasize and

1740
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 4: into an untruth, as most troops do. They metamorphosize and

1741
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 4: transition into an untruth or a variation of the real truth.

1742
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:58,480
Speaker 4: So we examine. I have them to examine each aspect

1743
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 4: of that truth, and then we come together and have

1744
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 4: a discussion about the reality of what did actually happen.

1745
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 4: Who did actually began to speak of this Christmas, this

1746
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 4: celebration in a certain way, whereas the splinter groups actually

1747
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 4: desired that, and they took it and they made it

1748
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 4: into what it is, And that's how the masses are influenced.

1749
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: Gotcha twelve after the top I got a bunch of

1750
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: tweet questions for you. But I see that Pastor past

1751
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: the current Manning has joined us a grand rising Pastor Manning.

1752
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 10: Yes, it's so good to be with your brothers, so

1753
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 10: good to be on the show again.

1754
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: Quickly, Yeah, Pastor, give us a quick update on your

1755
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,839
Speaker 1: situation in Pasadena Altadena after the fires.

1756
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,839
Speaker 10: Yes, well, we're still you know, we're still in the

1757
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 10: middle passage as I call it, where we're trying to

1758
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 10: make sure that our families are taken care of and

1759
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 10: that people's homes they're having an opportunity. I guess that's

1760
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 10: the better word to rebuild. As you know, the whole

1761
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 10: area of Altadena was a starting point for families being

1762
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 10: able to purchase home and breaking the red line that

1763
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 10: had existed in our country, and Altadena is one of

1764
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 10: those first communities. And now with people's homes being lost

1765
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 10: and the fire devastating our community, there are some who

1766
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 10: have just chosen to just leave. They can't they can't

1767
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 10: take it, you know, the homes. There are a lot

1768
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 10: of elderly who don't have the strength or the or

1769
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 10: the will to want to rebuild. So we're really trying

1770
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 10: to continue to push the whole concept of alta diena

1771
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 10: not being for sale. We are starting to see some

1772
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 10: homes being being built, mainly foundations things like that, but

1773
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 10: we've had a few groundbreaking ceremonies and things like that.

1774
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 10: But now the largest battle is making sure that people

1775
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 10: get through the year, you know where the one year

1776
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 10: anniversary will be in January. And then the second thing

1777
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 10: is just making sure that the conversations and the need

1778
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:27,719
Speaker 10: for compensation and repayment from this fire. There's a big

1779
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 10: issue about the electric company being the one that was

1780
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 10: responsible for that's still out there as a debate, but

1781
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:44,560
Speaker 10: people are posturing to take advantage or to try to

1782
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 10: get over that or get over on people. So I've

1783
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,959
Speaker 10: been in several meetings in that front and still believing

1784
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 10: that the role of the church is to cover those

1785
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 10: who are vulnerable. Proverbs thirty one eight nine says speak

1786
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 10: up for those who can't speak for themselves and ensure

1787
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 10: that they get justice. And there's a lot of people

1788
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 10: who don't know the language, and I don't know a

1789
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 10: lot of it of rebuilding and all of this, but

1790
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 10: I'm learning because I see how important it is to

1791
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 10: help our people navigate these waters of permits and the

1792
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 10: legal process that a lot of people are confused about,

1793
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 10: and we have the electric company offering payouts for people

1794
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 10: instead of going the legal route with their own attorneys

1795
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 10: and things like that. So our people are just trying

1796
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:37,759
Speaker 10: to navigate all of those things and we're still passing.

1797
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 10: The church is still doing distribution every Saturday. Our numbers

1798
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 10: have grown Brother Carl to well over three hundred cars

1799
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 10: of Saturday, I think there were three hundred and seventy

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01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 10: or eighty cars that were served this past Saturday. There's

1801
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 10: a greater need in our community that's been exposed by

1802
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 10: the fire, not only those who lost their homes, but

1803
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 10: people who lost their jobs. People who worked in out

1804
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 10: to Dina are on now showing up on Saturdays at

1805
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 10: Pasadena Church just for water and toilet trees and laundry

1806
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 10: supplies and things like that. So we're just glad to

1807
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 10: continue to be able to serve, and we're committed to

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01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 10: serving through at least through the new year. But as

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01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 10: long as the Lord would have us to be able

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01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 10: to be here for our community.

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Speaker 1: It's good to know. We'll let you give out information.

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01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Folks are listening around the country, want to donate and

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01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 1: help because I know it's got to cost a lot

1814
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 1: to keep this going on. So we've got to help

1815
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters out in California. We've come about

1816
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,719
Speaker 1: our break. Pastor coming Manners just join us. That's Pastor

1817
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 1: Coring Manning and doctor j Edmonds and the Faith Brothers.

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01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 1: We're talking about the season. You know what season it is.

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01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 1: And I'll pose a question right now for you. Ask

1820
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 1: the Manning. I'll let you respond when we get back

1821
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: from the break. In the Nativity, that scene the wise

1822
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: man were presented to Jesus when he was a child.

1823
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: Why are they out present in the scene of the Maid?

1824
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: You know the major? The scene of the Major. I'll

1825
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 1: let you respond to that when we get back. Family.

1826
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: You two you got questions, any question about religion. These

1827
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 1: are the fellows you need to pose those questions to.

1828
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 1: And you can reach them at eight hundred four or

1829
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your

1830
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 1: phone calls. Next and Grand Rising family. We have Faith

1831
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Brothers with us. Doctor Jay Evans and passed the Curran

1832
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: Manning of twenty minutes after the top. They are any

1833
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 1: questions you want to ask about religion? These are the fellows.

1834
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 1: You need to pose us question too, and of course

1835
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: it's the season with the Christmas season, if you will.

1836
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 1: This is why we're having this discussion. Another question from

1837
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 1: some tweeters already, another question for Mark from Anaheim as well.

1838
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 1: But the question I posed to past the Curwin Manning

1839
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: before we left for the break was the wise men

1840
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: were presenting to Jesus when he was a child. So

1841
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,799
Speaker 1: the question is why are they present in the scene

1842
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 1: of the major when he was born?

1843
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 10: Why are they present in the scene?

1844
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, I'll not be with this called so

1845
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:55,679
Speaker 1: I don't know the difference, but I'll let you explain.

1846
01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I believe the question is kind of a

1847
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 10: voting to or helping us to understand that the whole

1848
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:11,600
Speaker 10: story of the birth of Christ is it's told contemporarily

1849
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 10: as a one night event, but there's a lot of

1850
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 10: components to it that let us know that even with

1851
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 10: other biblical counts, you're talking about a time frame that's

1852
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 10: longer than the story rolls off of the tongue when

1853
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 10: we tell it. And one of them is even when

1854
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 10: you talk about Herod's attempt to kill the children two

1855
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 10: years and older, that gives us a two year window

1856
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 10: right there as to the birth of Christ. And in

1857
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 10: that story, the matthewcount the Luke account that focused on

1858
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 10: the Shepherd's visit oftentimes pull us away from the intent

1859
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 10: of the authors to validate. For me, it's always about

1860
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 10: validating the birth of Christ, and those pieces of the story.

1861
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 10: I think the other piece that makes it challenging when

1862
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 10: we talk about the birth of Christ. I know that

1863
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 10: I've learned a lot even by being on the show

1864
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 10: with Doctor Edmunds and the timeline of Christmas. And now

1865
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 10: i'm you know, I have to tell our people, you

1866
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 10: know that that December twenty fifth is not the day,

1867
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 10: and and there's a lot of a lot of our

1868
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 10: Christian events and on the Christian calendar that align with

1869
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 10: Pagan events, and and and why that is at times.

1870
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 10: But I think the important thing for me in highlighting

1871
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 10: the details is explaining the stories, explaining the characters, and

1872
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 10: then helping people to sort through the differences in the

1873
01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 10: narratives that we're that we're able to read and put

1874
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 10: together to understand that God orchestrated all of these pieces

1875
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 10: to ensure that Christ was born. Then you have all

1876
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 10: types of artistic renditions that put everybody together and and

1877
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 10: and and all of that at the same time and

1878
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 10: in the same room. The manger one one translation says,

1879
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 10: when they entered the house, they saw Mary with the baby.

1880
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 10: And the question has come up, why you know, I

1881
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 10: thought he was in the stable, and and and how

1882
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 10: could they enter the house? And again, the all of

1883
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 10: the details of that timeline are not described in the

1884
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 10: gospel accounts, and I think we just have to be

1885
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 10: careful to break them down. And and for me, validating

1886
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 10: the true history of the of the characters, the people involved,

1887
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 10: and the actual event is the most important thing, all right.

1888
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: Twenty four after the top there, I got another tweet

1889
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 1: question from Mark Manheim for you fellas. He says, church

1890
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 1: members claim that Adam and Eve were the first beings

1891
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 1: on earth, when Genesis specifically stated that demons inhabited a

1892
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: dark and evil earth before God said let there be light.

1893
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 1: Is running truth to that statement.

1894
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 4: There's no truth in it at all as it relates

1895
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 4: to the Preadamites. I guess that's what he's referring to,

1896
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 4: being spiritual creatures. Now, however, there was a citizen tree

1897
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 4: of spiritual beings such as angels, malevolent angels in the

1898
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 4: heavenly realm, not the Earth roum. They were within the

1899
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 4: heavenly realm, and those spiritual creatures, angelic creatures were actually

1900
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:05,600
Speaker 4: cast out of that realm because of their desire to

1901
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 4: go beyond and usurp authority over the things of God.

1902
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 4: That is spoken of in biblical scripture in Revelation chapter twelve,

1903
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 4: chapter seven, and also in the Book of unach Uh.

1904
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 4: There were those were espoused, espouse express rather, but they

1905
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 4: were not within the Earth realm.

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01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean, and stop for a second, so are you saying,

1907
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 1: are you saying that he's correct when he says that

1908
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:46,600
Speaker 1: Adam and Eve were not the first persons on this planet.

1909
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 4: To say that they were not within this Those spiritual beings,

1910
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 4: angelic beings were not within the earthly ram. Junans were

1911
01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 4: created within the Earth realm. And so there were no

1912
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 4: pre confused.

1913
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 1: So it was let me just puts sharply as I can.

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01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 1: Where Adam and the the first persons on this planet.

1915
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 4: Yes they were, because this is the earth ram, you see,

1916
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 4: there was the it is the heavenly ram as well,

1917
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:31,960
Speaker 4: within that lineage, within that ah atmosphere.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

1919
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 4: And so before God even said let there be light.

1920
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 4: Before he even said, uh, let the waters be separated,

1921
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 4: before he even said anything consistent with the creation of earth. Uh,

1922
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 4: there was activity within the heavenly Ram.

1923
01:51:56,200 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: So were those in the heavenly Ram the demons as

1924
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:02,480
Speaker 1: he's saying.

1925
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 4: Well, yes, after they had usurped authority over the things

1926
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 4: of God. That's why they were actually vacated, cast out,

1927
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 4: cast down out of the heavenly Ram into the earthly realm.

1928
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 4: And this is what I'm speaking of. When they came

1929
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:32,440
Speaker 4: into the earth ram, man had already been created. According

1930
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 4: to Genesis, chapter two, verse seven, Man had already been created.

1931
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 4: So when they came into the earth realm, that's when

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Speaker 4: the themes began to occur. Maltima the evil, and that's

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Speaker 4: what is spoken of by Enoch, and it's spoken of

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Speaker 4: by John Revelator as well, and it's spoken of in

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Speaker 4: Genesis concerning what these demonic creatures did at that point

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Speaker 4: in time. So that's the point, is my point, embracing

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Speaker 4: what the caller or the person who posed a question

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Speaker 4: is there were no preadamites, meaning that there were no

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Speaker 4: other human beings, no other creatures human that were created

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Speaker 4: before atom. See that that right, there is very important

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Speaker 4: to understand because Europeans basically say that we as black

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Speaker 4: people were Preadamites and we were mud people. That is

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Speaker 4: not true. There were no other human beings prior to Atom,

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Speaker 4: prior to Eve.

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Speaker 1: All right, gotch Hold, there's a bunch of tweets, questions,

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Speaker 1: and folks want to get at you. Brothers. Twenty nine

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Speaker 1: minutes at the top of the family. I hope you're

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Speaker 1: learning some stuff. This morning I was doctor Jay Evans

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Speaker 1: along with Past the Current Man the Faith Brothers, and

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Speaker 1: Kevin has a question for you, because this has been

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Speaker 1: bubbling around on this program for quite a while. Grand Rising, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: you have question for the Faith Brothers.

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Speaker 3: Grand Rising, indeed and Grand Rising gentlemen, Doctor Edmunds, Past

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Speaker 3: the Current, how you guys feeling How you feeling?

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Speaker 4: Excellent?

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Speaker 10: Sir, you are doing very well. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's a pleasure to hear from you, and thanks for

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Speaker 3: joining the program. Last week I was holding up the

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Speaker 3: bloodstained banner for the Faith Brothers. Someone brought up a

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Speaker 3: question is there a God? The existence of God? And

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Speaker 3: I answered, you know from my heart basically you know

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Speaker 3: that one word answer.

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Speaker 2: Yes, How would you answered that?

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Speaker 3: And you know what's the best way to explain the

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Speaker 3: existence of God and how he you know, he the beginning,

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Speaker 3: the end, and He you know, flows through your veins

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Speaker 3: and and through the very frequency in the in the atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: Without quoting the apostles, Creed or something. Either one is done.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well I'll start at least when you pose the

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Speaker 10: question is there a God? I pause a little bit

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Speaker 10: because that could open another line of questioning about how

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Speaker 10: many gods are there. The scripture says there's only one God,

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Speaker 10: and that that God is revealed to us. And I

1974
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Speaker 10: and I know, you know, in my years of pastoring,

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Speaker 10: people want to to know how how that happens and

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Speaker 10: who God is without without a relationship, and I know

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Speaker 10: that from the Hebrews perspect the perspective we're told in

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Speaker 10: the scripture that from Hebrews eleven that if we're going

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Speaker 10: to have faith or anyone who has faith, must believe

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Speaker 10: that God exists. So a part not the difficulty, but

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Speaker 10: a part of answering the question. We have to always

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Speaker 10: integrate faith, and some people want to leave faith out

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Speaker 10: of it. But believing that God exists, the Scripture says,

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Speaker 10: and that He rewards those who earnestly seek him Now,

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Speaker 10: the writer of Romans tells us that God can be

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Speaker 10: known by the things that he's made. So that's another

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Speaker 10: part of the argument. You know, living in southern California,

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Speaker 10: for example, right up against the mountains. As a matter

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Speaker 10: of fact, I've been having trouble with bears lately because

1990
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Speaker 10: they've been coming down and getting in the trash and

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Speaker 10: messing things up a little bit. But and when I

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Speaker 10: look at the mountains, when I have the opportunity to

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Speaker 10: go to the ocean, palm trees, all of God's creation.

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Speaker 10: I was just reading information about the intricacies of an egg,

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Speaker 10: how just an egg has pours in it and it's

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Speaker 10: able to take in and release so that the chick

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Speaker 10: can be born in that twenty one day cycle. All

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Speaker 10: of these miracles and wonders point to not just any

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Speaker 10: type of intelligence or being, but divine and the only

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Speaker 10: God of the universe that could do all of these

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Speaker 10: things with such intentionality, with such intention not only for creation,

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Speaker 10: but for humanity. Who created us, and there's no other

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Speaker 10: creation like man. His prize possession. When he made us,

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Speaker 10: he said didn't just say it was good, he says

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Speaker 10: very good. So all of these elements come in to

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Speaker 10: plage in answering the question, and I'm not trying to

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Speaker 10: skirt around I hope I'm adding pieces. Who would love

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Speaker 10: to hear Doctor Edmund join in on that. But it's

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Speaker 10: more than just that answer has a lot of pieces

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Speaker 10: to it to begin to and I and I and

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Speaker 10: I believe that As a pastor, I try my best

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Speaker 10: to walk with people as they discover God and how

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Speaker 10: how great our God is more than just a one

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Speaker 10: word answer or or. But it will take a life

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Speaker 10: time and beyond to know God in his fullness. We

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Speaker 10: can't even we won't, we won't be able to accomplish that.

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Speaker 10: But He reveals himself to us in in the ways

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Speaker 10: that the scripture says it. And I believe through scripture

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Speaker 10: and through personal encounters with him. You know, I have

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Speaker 10: been through so many things in life that I know

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Speaker 10: that it had to be my God who's brought me

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Speaker 10: through and carried me through and kept me in the

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Speaker 10: midst of them all I've shared, I've shared a lot

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Speaker 10: of my story on this show many times, but all

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Speaker 10: of those encounters have validated in my heart that God

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Speaker 10: is real. Along with the scripture and historical accounts of

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Speaker 10: even of creation, that we've talked about today.

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 3: And it's the spirit that makes that real, that makes

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Speaker 3: it manner inside of our hearts and.

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Speaker 10: Our very being, which absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Doctor Edmunds, how would you define that?

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Speaker 4: Well? I think anytime that question is asked, as I

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Speaker 4: say to my students and those who are teach, that

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Speaker 4: interrogative is answered with an interrogatives, and someone says.

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Speaker 5: Who is God?

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Speaker 4: Is there a God? Then it should be answered with

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Speaker 4: an interrogatives, and that interrogative it is do you believe

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Speaker 4: that there is something greater than you? And the answer

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Speaker 4: is either no or yes. And then the next question

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Speaker 4: that is coos, who do you say it?

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Speaker 7: Is?

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Speaker 4: What do you call it? And the word god actually

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Speaker 4: in the Greek is theoths. That's where we get out.

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Speaker 4: We're theology from the study of God Theoths. So who

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Speaker 4: do you call God? You know, the Buddhists have a

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Speaker 4: different perspective, just as the Hindus who say that they're

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Speaker 4: over three hundred and fifty thousand gods. So who do you?

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Speaker 4: Who do you call God? Now, let's talk about if

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Speaker 4: you say no, I don't believe that there is a God,

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Speaker 4: or I don't believe that there is something greater than myself.

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Speaker 4: If one is placed themselves in that position, then the

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Speaker 4: experience of life for them is quite different from the

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Speaker 4: experience of life of one who actually believe that there

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Speaker 4: is something greater than them, because it expands into other

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Speaker 4: areas relative to If there's something greater than you, then

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Speaker 4: that means what is done by that which is greater

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Speaker 4: than you supersede what can be done by yourself.

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Speaker 3: Take a beat on that past the admins. We've got

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Speaker 3: promotional considerations to do. Don't lose that, don you know

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Speaker 3: we're jumping at the bits to hear the rest.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely twenty three away from the top down. Kevin Bove

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Speaker 1: this question. I see Johnny's call. He started all this

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Speaker 1: Johnny in Long Beach, California. Doctor j Evans past the

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Speaker 1: current man, and I guess we're talking about a god.

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Speaker 1: Now we know what the season is. But people asking

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Speaker 1: this question, they've been asking this for quite a while.

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Speaker 1: Is there a God? How can you prove to me

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Speaker 1: that there is a god? People want to know, And

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Speaker 1: we'll let doctor Edmunds finish his response when we get

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Speaker 1: back family, you two can get in on this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Hit us up at eight hundred four five zero seventy

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Speaker 1: eight seventy six, and we'll take a phone calls next

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Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning. Coming up later after the Faith Brothers,

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Speaker 1: doctor Saber his son Abdullah will join us. And tomorrow

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Speaker 1: we're going to hear from the Master Teacher himself, Brother

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Speaker 1: Ashua Quasi. Also Chairman Fred Hampton is going to be

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Speaker 1: with us and the Nubian Leadership Circles Sadiki come on,

2080
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Speaker 1: we'll check in as well. So if you are in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: make sure you keep your radio locked in tight on

2082
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Speaker 1: ten ten w WELB or if you're in the DMV,

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Speaker 1: we're on fourteen fifty WOL. All right, the question about

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Speaker 1: and this is where for the Faith Brothers doctor j.

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Speaker 1: Edmonds and past the current man there is the discussion's

2086
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Speaker 1: be going on here for a quite a few days

2087
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Speaker 1: about if there's a God and can you prove that

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Speaker 1: there's a God? So people say God is within you,

2089
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Speaker 1: there's no physical God. So doctor Edmans was on the

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Speaker 1: was in the middle of explaining to us responding that

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Speaker 1: question from Kevin. So doctor Amazon, as you finish your.

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Speaker 4: Thought, sure, so bios which means that which cannot be

2093
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Speaker 4: seen that is greater, that is within itself, inherent within

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Speaker 4: one's own decision concerning their perspective of the world of

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Speaker 4: what they see. That's why it's important to pose that

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Speaker 4: interrogative to each individual who asks is there a God?

2097
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Speaker 4: Do you believe that there's something greater than yourself? And,

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Speaker 4: as I said before, if the answer is no, then

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Speaker 4: it points out that person's perspectives as it relates to

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Speaker 4: who God is. That means that in their view there

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Speaker 4: is no God. That if that answer is yes, well

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Speaker 4: what do you call? Who you call that which is

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Speaker 4: greater than yourself? I think it's important to know that

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Speaker 4: each individual has a perspective relative to that which is

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Speaker 4: greater than themselves if they've chosen that particular answer. But

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Speaker 4: even yet, still those who said, I don't even believe

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Speaker 4: that there's something greater than myself and to be called God? Still,

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Speaker 4: when you delve into the explanation relative to cause, meaning

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Speaker 4: that well, how did these things around you? How did

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Speaker 4: they appear? How did you appear? What is the origin

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Speaker 4: of yourself? From an anthropological standpoint, I think it demands

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Speaker 4: deeper questions, just so as it the same with those

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Speaker 4: who said yes, I believe there's something greater than I. Well,

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Speaker 4: the question remains, well, who do you call that? What

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Speaker 4: do you call that? Where is the existence of that?

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Speaker 4: It reminds me of a biblical scripture when Jesus had

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Speaker 4: worked all of the miracles, healed the sick, gave sight

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Speaker 4: to the blind, raised the dead, did all those things,

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Speaker 4: and so his disciples actually came to him and said

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Speaker 4: that some say you are a prophet, some say you

2121
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Speaker 4: are soup sayer, some say that, and he stopped them.

2122
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Speaker 4: He said, who do you.

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Speaker 8: Say I am?

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Speaker 4: That's the same question that is posed with a person

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Speaker 4: asking is there a God or saying they don't believe

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Speaker 4: that there is a god, or they do believe that

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Speaker 4: there's something greater than them. Well, who is that?

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Speaker 1: And right there, uh doctor, just a bunch of folks

2129
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Speaker 1: are trying to get to your fellow. It's this question.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Kevin posed that we have been having this discussion quite

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Speaker 1: some days, and they said they're waiting for you guys

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Speaker 1: to come on to explain.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: The person who started all of this was Johnny calling

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Speaker 1: from Long Beach out in California. He's on my four.

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Speaker 1: So Johnny, first, what you start this and do you

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Speaker 1: have a question. Do you want to pose a question

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Speaker 1: out of the faith brothers?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, my question would be to them. Is when

2141
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Speaker 5: I started off by saying, it's like, why do you

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Speaker 5: believe in God?

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Speaker 4: Well, that is a great question, and that interrogative deserves

2144
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Speaker 4: an answer. I believe and that which is greater than myself,

2145
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Speaker 4: and that the name God has been assigned to that.

2146
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Speaker 4: I believe that because the essence of who I am,

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Speaker 4: my very makeup, which is that which I can see

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Speaker 4: and that which I cannot see, brought me to the

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Speaker 4: conclusion that I am not that which I see. I

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Speaker 4: am that which I cannot see. In other words, this

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Speaker 4: body is just for motivation to get around on this planet.

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Speaker 4: So I believe that there's something greater than myself. So

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Speaker 4: I want to examine that. And when I began to

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Speaker 4: examine the things that are right before our eyes, that

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Speaker 4: are greater than that which deserves even an explanation. How

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Speaker 4: did a tree become a tree? Or how did man

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Speaker 4: that which can be seen populate? Did it begin evolutionary?

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Speaker 4: Did it begin with a paramecium or in a meba

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Speaker 4: of one cell evolutional type cycle? How did that happen?

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Speaker 4: Investigating those particular things bring us to the conclusion that

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Speaker 4: that which cannot be seen is greater than that which

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Speaker 4: can be seen. In fact, that which can be seen

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Speaker 4: came from the catalyst, which is that which cannot be seen.

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Speaker 4: How do I interpret that? I must look at that.

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Speaker 4: If that which cannot be seen is greater than that

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Speaker 4: which can be seen, then what is that?

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Speaker 7: Who is.

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Speaker 5: I had to follow up on that, sir. It's like

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Speaker 5: in that of what we have done, what some of

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Speaker 5: us have done, is like we have remove this stuff

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Speaker 5: about slavery. However we kept the most important thing that

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Speaker 5: was about slavery, Christianity.

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 7: Could it?

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Speaker 5: Could it lie in that the Christianity is the culprit

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Speaker 5: and not about It's not about God, It's about Christianity

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Speaker 5: and what and what that that that particular religion has

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Speaker 5: done to us as a people that we believe in something.

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Speaker 1: Yet, and before you respond, let me tie this in, fellas,

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Speaker 1: because we disgosed A bunch of folks want to got

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Speaker 1: questions for you. So here's a tweet that if you

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Speaker 1: can answer both Johnny's questions this tweet. The tweeter says

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Speaker 1: for the faith brothers not being a fierce to myself.

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Speaker 1: How many people does it take praying to God before

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Speaker 1: the results of seeing Part two? We as black people

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Speaker 1: have been praying for freedom and self determination, yet here

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Speaker 1: we still are. Is your God or is the God

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Speaker 1: ignoring our plight? So I'll let you answer about those questions.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me take the first one.

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Speaker 7: Uh uh.

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Speaker 4: First, have initial seriatum from getting point by point that

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Speaker 4: which circles and surrounds Whether or not Christianity or any

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Speaker 4: other spiritual persuasion is used as an instrument to either

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Speaker 4: raise up or put down, to either oppress or to

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Speaker 4: release a people. That is very common when it comes

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Speaker 4: now to a society or a civilization that is built

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Speaker 4: around supremacy. We must understand that it is not Christianity

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Speaker 4: that oppresses a person. It is the people behind that

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Speaker 4: which is put forward in the guy of Christianity that

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Speaker 4: oppresses of people, meaning that Christianity is simply that which

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Speaker 4: is centered around Christ crystal that within itself, the tenets

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Speaker 4: itself are not centered around oppressing a people. But it's

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Speaker 4: the people you're centric who actually took that and they

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Speaker 4: used that to set forth supremacy. And that's the result

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Speaker 4: of the tool that was used. It's not the tool,

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Speaker 4: it's how you use it. It's just as if you

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Speaker 4: have an hammer. You can use a hammer to destroy someone,

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Speaker 4: or you can use it for its privilese to drive

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Speaker 4: a nail. So the very same thing is and play here.

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Speaker 4: When it comes down to Christianity or Hinduism, Buddhism or Judaism,

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Speaker 4: the very same thing is in play here. It is

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Speaker 4: the people who malevolently took that to oppress. Now what

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Speaker 4: caused them to do that? It is that which cannot

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Speaker 4: be seen, the spirit within them that caused them to oppress.

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Speaker 4: As Elaia Mohamad said, it is a devil within the people.

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Speaker 4: Those people, that thing which causes one to hate someone else,

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Speaker 4: to oppress someone else. That did not just derive from

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Speaker 4: an individual, but that came from a thought that was

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Speaker 4: planted by that which cannot be seen. The thought is

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Speaker 4: nothing more than encapsulated information you choose to mentally that

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Speaker 4: that is just who placed that thought. There see that

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Speaker 4: which cannot be seen, which has malevolent aspirations. Well, on

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Speaker 4: the other side of that, that is that which cannot

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Speaker 4: be seen, which does not have malevolent aspirations, which has

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Speaker 4: been good for the people. Now to break that down.

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Speaker 4: We have to get into separating the flesh from the spirit,

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Speaker 4: separating that which can be seen from that which cannot

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Speaker 4: be seen, and embrace that you see so.

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Speaker 1: All right, and a whole nothing like that, because we

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Speaker 1: still got a whole bunch of folks that if he

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Speaker 1: showed upon the answer fellas, I'll appreciate it. Cliff calling

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Speaker 1: from Connecticut. Cliff is online six. Cliff, your question real

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Speaker 1: quick for the Faith brothers.

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Speaker 11: Get to the Faith brothers and thank you for thinking

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Speaker 11: about called grand rising to the brothers. Are we the

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Speaker 11: only existence in this on this planet? And then if so,

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Speaker 11: if you do believe that there's other beings, then are

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Speaker 11: they good?

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Speaker 5: Bad?

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Speaker 11: Or do they even exists? According to your belief?

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Speaker 4: Well, and in actuality, we are not the only beings

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Speaker 4: within this earthram or this cosmos itself. There are spiritual beings.

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Speaker 8: They are beings.

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Speaker 4: As I said, I think one of the callers on

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Speaker 4: the last show, when who ask about aliens, anything that

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Speaker 4: is different from the inhabitants one regards as an alien.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be, you know, a person from

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Speaker 4: space or what have you, but it simply means that

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Speaker 4: which is different. Menamorphically that which is different prospiracy or

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Speaker 4: from an anthropological standpoint, Yes, there are other beings and

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Speaker 4: that's what we've been talking about. We've been talking about

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Speaker 4: the forces of darkness and the forces of light, and

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Speaker 4: that's what we want to expound on to actually identify

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02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:13,840
Speaker 4: those particular forces and say, do you yourself believe that

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Speaker 4: there's something greater than you? And which and in which

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Speaker 4: manner you see to embrace that. And that's where the

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Speaker 4: understanding about life itself as it relates to the mansipestation

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Speaker 4: of life, that's where the understanding comes in. Who are you?

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Speaker 1: What do you find away from the top, doctor Evans,

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Speaker 1: because we're come up on the right, but Christians calling

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Speaker 1: for malibuish online five Christian Christian, you have a question

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Speaker 1: for the faith brothers.

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Speaker 7: Thank good morning, gentlemen. And the need started this thing

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Speaker 7: and they have three sons, So how did the other

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Speaker 7: people get here? If you take out incest, which is

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Speaker 7: the abomination of God, that can't be the reason. So

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Speaker 7: where all their females come from?

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Speaker 4: That's the first question.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you asked that question because we did

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Speaker 1: get a tweet asking about that question about Adam and

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Speaker 1: e Where did they get their wives. So I'll let

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Speaker 1: it we call it. We got about a minute. If

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Speaker 1: one of you faithful is going to respond that I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, the Lord had said to Adam and

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Speaker 4: need to be fruitful and multiplied. The ones that were

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Speaker 4: mentioned came and Able and his brother Sat and those

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Speaker 4: within the land of Nod those were children actually that

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Speaker 4: had actually been born. And you have to understand that

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Speaker 4: time had elapsed between these scenarios that we're reading about.

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Speaker 4: And so when we see the geniality as to what

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Speaker 4: occurred in the Land of Nod between Cain taking a

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Speaker 4: wife there and we see his genialogy there the people

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Speaker 4: that those which came from from him and his wife,

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Speaker 4: and then we see the genealogy of those who came

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Speaker 4: from Set and his wives his wives, then we understand

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Speaker 4: that that was the population. But that's how it started

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Speaker 4: relative to that, and there were more that were born

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Speaker 4: to Adam and Eve than just came and Able and Set.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me see him stuff a real quick. We

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Speaker 1: got about ten seconds. But are you saying that we're

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Speaker 1: all des sentants of Adam and Eve? Every planet?

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Speaker 4: Yes, and genes seven and even within the out it

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Speaker 4: an uncertain terms.

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Speaker 1: Hold authorry. Then we got to step aside for a

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Speaker 1: few months so our stations can identify themselves. Down the line,

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Speaker 1: We've got a whole bunch of folks who want to

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Speaker 1: speak to the Faith brothers. I'll tell you I We'll

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Speaker 1: just take one more call in the because we got

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Speaker 1: h we got doctor Saby's son Abdul standing by family.

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Speaker 1: You want to join this conversation with the Abdul reach

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Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy

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Speaker 1: eight to seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

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Speaker 1: next and grind Rising family in thanks for rolling with us.

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Speaker 1: Are so many questions for the Faith brothers here uh

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Speaker 1: and moment tailor, we're gonna speak with brother Abdul Abdul Bohman.

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Speaker 1: He's the son of doctor Sabie. But first let's rap

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Speaker 1: with the faith through that. Though Reggie has a question.

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Speaker 1: Reggie's on calling for Maryland is online six. Reggie grand Rising,

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Speaker 1: your question for the Faith Brothers, great riding.

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Speaker 5: I want to I just wanted to make a statement

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Speaker 5: about as far as when you when you walk and

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Speaker 5: you dabble with the Book of Enoch, people are so

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Speaker 5: confused because you don't make it plain. In the Book

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Speaker 5: of Enoch will bring you to who know God very fast.

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Speaker 5: It only takes about ten minutes. And you see in

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Speaker 5: the Book of Enoch, God was called all that that

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Speaker 5: was revealed to Enoch. And if you look up the

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Speaker 5: definition of Era that it says father of all creation.

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Speaker 5: Why don't we hear you guys saying that? And then

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Speaker 5: why don't you tell the people when you say we

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Speaker 5: don't know basically who we are and it's only one

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Speaker 5: it's only one God. That is not true. The eighty

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Speaker 5: second chapter of Psalms six verses, ye are all God,

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Speaker 5: go children of the Most High God. You brothers can

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Speaker 5: in the confusion very quick if you deal with the

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Speaker 5: real scriptures that explained that. And lastly, we had to

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Speaker 5: be born out of incests. You guys won't tell that truth.

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Speaker 5: There's no way the earth was populated without incests. You

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Speaker 5: gotta become real. This is why the people are confused.

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Speaker 5: I'll leave it right there.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a good observation. And I think the last

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Speaker 4: statement that I made was basically, there were more children

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Speaker 4: born because God said be fruitful and multiplied. They were

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Speaker 4: born of each other. And that which we consider as

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Speaker 4: incense was not incense. We got to remember, also, sir,

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Speaker 4: that Adam was not born as a babe. He was

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Speaker 4: born as a grown man, not born, but created. According

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Speaker 4: to Genesis chapter two, verse seven, he was fully ready

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Speaker 4: to go. He was one hundred and thirty five years

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Speaker 4: old when he actually fathered. Said, But the children that

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Speaker 4: they've had in one hundred and thirty five years, they

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Speaker 4: began to actually inter twining with each other and become

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Speaker 4: fruitful and multiply as well. So it is quite obvious

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Speaker 4: that what we call in says was that which was

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Speaker 4: done at that point in time. But God had given

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Speaker 4: his grace on that as it needs to be too

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Speaker 4: fruitful and MULTIPLI let me get to your other question

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Speaker 4: concerning the Book of Eenoch. I understand what you're saying,

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Speaker 4: era of that, and I understand relative to the question

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Speaker 4: of the name of God, that was that which was

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Speaker 4: given by sem Yazi. Sem Yazi in chapter seven of

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Speaker 4: the Book of Anoch appeared as the leader of those

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Speaker 4: angels which came into the earth realm to actually take

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Speaker 4: the women who were beautiful and were born of the

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Speaker 4: human creation, to take them to have children by them.

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Speaker 4: Sem Yazi and those which came with him actually referred

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Speaker 4: to God by that name, just as if you're utilizing

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02:22:43,840 --> 02:22:51,280
Speaker 4: another language, say Hebrew for instance, and the word Allah

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Speaker 4: God in similarity is different from elulum, which means God

2361
02:22:57,640 --> 02:23:02,800
Speaker 4: in plurality. The same thing applies here if you read

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Speaker 4: chapter seven. And this is something that I do speak

2363
02:23:09,200 --> 02:23:14,600
Speaker 4: to my students I teach, and in my renderings, I

2364
02:23:14,800 --> 02:23:18,600
Speaker 4: always bring them back to those things that you were

2365
02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:27,160
Speaker 4: speaking about, and that is the disclosure concerning those beings

2366
02:23:27,560 --> 02:23:31,320
Speaker 4: that were angelic within themselves that were mentioned not only

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02:23:31,360 --> 02:23:34,640
Speaker 4: in the Book of Enoch, but the book of Josha

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02:23:34,959 --> 02:23:41,240
Speaker 4: and also within Genesis itself versus I'm sorry Chapter four

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02:23:41,320 --> 02:23:45,920
Speaker 4: and five. The question is, Sir, I think the main

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02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:54,119
Speaker 4: question is where did we as humans? Where did we

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02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:58,080
Speaker 4: come from? As it relates to our geniality at this time.

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02:23:58,760 --> 02:24:06,280
Speaker 4: We know that the settlement of the arc on Arabat Araraq,

2373
02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:12,640
Speaker 4: not Arabat Ararat. We know that that settlement there the

2374
02:24:12,760 --> 02:24:17,440
Speaker 4: humans were only there were only eight that was nor

2375
02:24:17,560 --> 02:24:22,320
Speaker 4: his wife history sons sham Ham and Jafat and their wives.

2376
02:24:23,240 --> 02:24:27,959
Speaker 4: So that means that we who exist now, if we're

2377
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:36,359
Speaker 4: inclined to embrace at the creation and not the evolution.

2378
02:24:36,680 --> 02:24:39,879
Speaker 4: It will lead us into the common analyzy that we

2379
02:24:40,000 --> 02:24:43,320
Speaker 4: have as human beings. So it is not the physical

2380
02:24:43,400 --> 02:24:46,640
Speaker 4: part of us that causes us to act. It is

2381
02:24:46,760 --> 02:24:50,800
Speaker 4: that which cannot be seen which causes us to act.

2382
02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:56,240
Speaker 4: Either that force is malevolent, either that force is for good,

2383
02:24:56,400 --> 02:25:01,119
Speaker 4: And that's what we focus on. That's what focus on.

2384
02:25:00,560 --> 02:25:08,879
Speaker 4: It is one thing to know something, but it's another

2385
02:25:08,959 --> 02:25:14,200
Speaker 4: thing to understand what you know. There are numerous people's

2386
02:25:14,240 --> 02:25:22,480
Speaker 4: philosophies scholars that know. But understanding what you know and

2387
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:28,519
Speaker 4: being utilizing wisdom and dispensing what you know and understand,

2388
02:25:29,400 --> 02:25:31,720
Speaker 4: that's the key. That's where we're trying to get at.

2389
02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:36,120
Speaker 4: We all learning, we all seekers. And that's why I

2390
02:25:36,160 --> 02:25:42,640
Speaker 4: don't dispel any any any teachings. I examine teachings whether

2391
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:43,560
Speaker 4: it's I.

2392
02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:45,879
Speaker 1: Really got to look at these issues with an open mind,

2393
02:25:45,920 --> 02:25:48,000
Speaker 1: it fell that's what I'm telling you. Just gotta have

2394
02:25:48,040 --> 02:25:50,240
Speaker 1: an open mind. It's it's some closing mind on something

2395
02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't believe you just turn off. You've got to

2396
02:25:52,920 --> 02:25:55,080
Speaker 1: have an open mind because there may be a kernel

2397
02:25:55,080 --> 02:25:58,360
Speaker 1: of truth in whatever they're saying. So please don't get

2398
02:25:58,360 --> 02:26:01,080
Speaker 1: closed to buying on any issue. It's not like a

2399
02:26:01,120 --> 02:26:03,080
Speaker 1: sports team. You don't like the Lakers, You're not gonna

2400
02:26:03,080 --> 02:26:05,920
Speaker 1: watch when they play. You only like the Knickson No,

2401
02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:10,680
Speaker 1: it's just have an open mind. Anyway, way a time

2402
02:26:10,720 --> 02:26:13,240
Speaker 1: Before we go though, Uh, I want to get past

2403
02:26:13,280 --> 02:26:15,360
Speaker 1: the coen a man a chance that tell us how

2404
02:26:15,400 --> 02:26:18,080
Speaker 1: folks can help our brothers and sisters out in Altadena, Pasadena.

2405
02:26:18,080 --> 02:26:18,840
Speaker 1: How can they get to you?

2406
02:26:19,400 --> 02:26:19,760
Speaker 2: Pastor?

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02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:22,879
Speaker 10: Yes, thank you so much. If you would like, if

2408
02:26:22,920 --> 02:26:26,320
Speaker 10: you would like to continue to help us serve this

2409
02:26:26,400 --> 02:26:28,800
Speaker 10: community it's been devastated by the fire. You can just

2410
02:26:28,840 --> 02:26:33,280
Speaker 10: go to our website directly Pasadena Church dot com and

2411
02:26:33,400 --> 02:26:35,760
Speaker 10: on that front page there's a tab that talks about

2412
02:26:35,800 --> 02:26:39,280
Speaker 10: the eat and fire relief. Any type of support you

2413
02:26:39,360 --> 02:26:44,760
Speaker 10: get through that goes directly to the distribution that we're

2414
02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:50,240
Speaker 10: doing every Saturday, and anything beyond that helping families to

2415
02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:55,720
Speaker 10: be restored. And we appreciate any contribution any amount. Passenachurch

2416
02:26:55,760 --> 02:26:57,760
Speaker 10: dot com and you can find me on there as well.

2417
02:26:58,040 --> 02:27:01,080
Speaker 10: Pastor Kerwin at Pasadena Church dot com if you'd like

2418
02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:01,800
Speaker 10: to email me.

2419
02:27:02,920 --> 02:27:05,080
Speaker 1: And doctor haven't I say want to count this question

2420
02:27:05,120 --> 02:27:06,600
Speaker 1: about God? How they can reach you?

2421
02:27:08,080 --> 02:27:08,200
Speaker 5: Uh?

2422
02:27:08,720 --> 02:27:13,600
Speaker 4: The Edmunds Group Global at gmail dot com. They can

2423
02:27:13,640 --> 02:27:16,640
Speaker 4: reach me there. And Pastor Manning is so good to

2424
02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:17,680
Speaker 4: hear you boys.

2425
02:27:19,000 --> 02:27:20,520
Speaker 5: Thank thank you, thank.

2426
02:27:20,400 --> 02:27:23,160
Speaker 4: You, failure. How good it is to hear your boys.

2427
02:27:23,200 --> 02:27:26,520
Speaker 4: And I wanted to hear you Opine a little bit

2428
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:30,959
Speaker 4: more there and your knowledge that you bring is so

2429
02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:33,480
Speaker 4: rich and I just really appreciate you.

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02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:36,720
Speaker 10: Just wanted you to do that, sir, the feelings meet you,

2431
02:27:36,840 --> 02:27:38,280
Speaker 10: my friend. Thank you so much. Brother.

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02:27:39,040 --> 02:27:42,320
Speaker 1: All right, fellas we talk to you guys next twenty six.

2433
02:27:42,360 --> 02:27:45,720
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing your thoughts with that. Absolutely all right, family,

2434
02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Let many have the top. Let's go over to a

2435
02:27:48,440 --> 02:27:52,119
Speaker 1: brother Abdul. Grand rising, Brother Abdul, welcome to the program.

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02:27:52,240 --> 02:27:52,920
Speaker 1: Thanks for being saying.

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02:27:52,959 --> 02:27:56,080
Speaker 12: Hey, it's a pleasure of being on your program again, Carl,

2438
02:27:56,680 --> 02:27:58,240
Speaker 12: and hello to everyone out there.

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02:27:58,720 --> 02:28:00,000
Speaker 4: Good day to all of you.

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02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:03,080
Speaker 1: And let me just say this, Brother Abdul is doctor

2441
02:28:03,160 --> 02:28:07,200
Speaker 1: Sabe's son and he's caring on doctor Sabe's legacy. We're

2442
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:08,959
Speaker 1: going to talk about that, but let's just get this

2443
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:10,920
Speaker 1: stuff out of us on the internet. About you one

2444
02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:13,120
Speaker 1: of your brothers, just explain, give us an update. What's

2445
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:13,680
Speaker 1: going on with that.

2446
02:28:14,680 --> 02:28:18,680
Speaker 12: Well, you know, my brother Victor, he was from Hondudas

2447
02:28:19,400 --> 02:28:25,240
Speaker 12: and he wasn't you know, he didn't become legal here.

2448
02:28:25,360 --> 02:28:28,840
Speaker 12: You know, he was working on his legalization, but in

2449
02:28:28,840 --> 02:28:29,680
Speaker 12: the process of.

2450
02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:33,959
Speaker 5: That he had came here, then left and.

2451
02:28:33,920 --> 02:28:36,959
Speaker 12: Tried to return back into the States to finish handling

2452
02:28:37,040 --> 02:28:40,519
Speaker 12: his business and that's when he was caught and detained.

2453
02:28:42,160 --> 02:28:46,240
Speaker 12: So as of now, he's still detained inside of that

2454
02:28:46,360 --> 02:28:52,000
Speaker 12: detention center in Texas. So he's been communicating off and on,

2455
02:28:52,160 --> 02:28:54,959
Speaker 12: but he's doing all right. But you know, with those

2456
02:28:55,000 --> 02:28:57,400
Speaker 12: detention centers, you know, there's all kinds of stuff goes

2457
02:28:57,440 --> 02:29:00,200
Speaker 12: on and there's a very bad place, and you know,

2458
02:29:00,320 --> 02:29:04,160
Speaker 12: we just hoping that he's you know, they they deport

2459
02:29:04,200 --> 02:29:06,840
Speaker 12: him back to Honduras where he can get back to

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02:29:06,879 --> 02:29:07,560
Speaker 12: our family.

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02:29:07,840 --> 02:29:10,160
Speaker 4: So that's what we're just waiting on that.

2462
02:29:11,680 --> 02:29:14,320
Speaker 1: Because I know there's a legal effort online to to

2463
02:29:14,800 --> 02:29:18,200
Speaker 1: help him, and people are you know, people are offering

2464
02:29:18,280 --> 02:29:21,280
Speaker 1: ideas and even sending money because I think you set

2465
02:29:21,360 --> 02:29:23,800
Speaker 1: up a GoFundMe, you know, help him get out of

2466
02:29:23,800 --> 02:29:25,520
Speaker 1: there so at lest you go back to ons.

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Speaker 12: So well, the thing is about that, Carl, you know,

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02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:36,600
Speaker 12: you you can't really do anything about that because once

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02:29:36,600 --> 02:29:39,560
Speaker 12: he was detained, you know, they have their own legal

2470
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:41,199
Speaker 12: process with the FEDS.

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02:29:40,840 --> 02:29:42,680
Speaker 4: And you know we can't.

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Speaker 12: We have we have attorneys, but none of the attorneys

2473
02:29:46,959 --> 02:29:49,600
Speaker 12: are allowed to go inside a none of the detention

2474
02:29:49,760 --> 02:29:56,920
Speaker 12: centers because the judge put this UH sanction on immigration

2475
02:29:57,080 --> 02:30:01,760
Speaker 12: attorneys about a month or so ago. No immigration attorney

2476
02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:04,720
Speaker 12: can step inside of any of those detention centers, so

2477
02:30:04,760 --> 02:30:07,840
Speaker 12: you don't know what's going on. He can't have legal representation,

2478
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:11,880
Speaker 12: so you know, that's what that is. And as far

2479
02:30:11,920 --> 02:30:14,959
Speaker 12: as trying to get him out with an attorney and

2480
02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:16,800
Speaker 12: trying to collect funds.

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02:30:17,440 --> 02:30:20,199
Speaker 4: That's that's you know, you can.

2482
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:22,520
Speaker 12: Try to do it, but all the money you collect

2483
02:30:22,680 --> 02:30:25,040
Speaker 12: is going to be you know, no effort unless you know,

2484
02:30:25,120 --> 02:30:27,680
Speaker 12: give the money to him once he comes out to

2485
02:30:27,800 --> 02:30:30,039
Speaker 12: help him, you know, get back on his feet. But

2486
02:30:30,200 --> 02:30:32,920
Speaker 12: you know, we we we here to help him, you know,

2487
02:30:33,040 --> 02:30:36,959
Speaker 12: restructure himself once he is out of that detention center.

2488
02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:40,840
Speaker 12: But you know, like I had made a few calls

2489
02:30:40,879 --> 02:30:43,000
Speaker 12: and I spoke with some of the high power attorneys

2490
02:30:43,000 --> 02:30:45,480
Speaker 12: here in LA and basically all of them told me

2491
02:30:45,560 --> 02:30:48,200
Speaker 12: the same thing. There's nothing they can do. And then

2492
02:30:48,280 --> 02:30:51,760
Speaker 12: if he was caught here, you know, going through trying

2493
02:30:51,800 --> 02:30:54,280
Speaker 12: to get here you know, illegally, they look at him

2494
02:30:54,320 --> 02:30:58,760
Speaker 12: as an illegal immigrants. So he and with Trump, you know,

2495
02:30:59,040 --> 02:31:02,400
Speaker 12: he made it. It's against the law if you're in

2496
02:31:02,400 --> 02:31:04,520
Speaker 12: a legal immigrant and trying to get back into the

2497
02:31:04,640 --> 02:31:07,680
Speaker 12: United States. You know, they tell you that they wanted

2498
02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:11,120
Speaker 12: you to self deport. So if you don't self deport,

2499
02:31:11,440 --> 02:31:14,440
Speaker 12: you know, they was offering you one thousand dollars a pleae,

2500
02:31:14,920 --> 02:31:18,840
Speaker 12: a free you know, plane ride, free plane trip back

2501
02:31:18,879 --> 02:31:21,720
Speaker 12: to where every country you come from, and you can

2502
02:31:21,760 --> 02:31:25,080
Speaker 12: apply for your citizenship wherever you know there or how

2503
02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:29,000
Speaker 12: you're gonna you know, do it. But you know, if

2504
02:31:29,000 --> 02:31:32,040
Speaker 12: you don't self deport, then when they catch you, it's

2505
02:31:32,080 --> 02:31:36,000
Speaker 12: a whole another problem. Well, I don't know if they

2506
02:31:36,040 --> 02:31:38,920
Speaker 12: run that commercial out there where you are, but in

2507
02:31:39,080 --> 02:31:42,000
Speaker 12: La they kept running that commercial over and over about

2508
02:31:42,040 --> 02:31:45,040
Speaker 12: with ice. And you know, you can self deport, but

2509
02:31:45,120 --> 02:31:47,360
Speaker 12: if you don't, then if we catch you, it's gonna

2510
02:31:47,360 --> 02:31:51,879
Speaker 12: be a problem. So he ran into that problem.

2511
02:31:52,000 --> 02:31:55,160
Speaker 1: Well, let's hope he figures it out and what it's

2512
02:31:55,480 --> 02:31:57,959
Speaker 1: done though, do let's put a face on this immigration

2513
02:31:58,040 --> 02:32:01,320
Speaker 1: problem because we always say, you know, they don't look

2514
02:32:01,400 --> 02:32:03,680
Speaker 1: like us. It it's like somebody different, you know, they're

2515
02:32:03,680 --> 02:32:06,280
Speaker 1: not coming for us, and then we believe you're going

2516
02:32:06,360 --> 02:32:11,119
Speaker 1: after the rapists and the terrorists in the country illegal.

2517
02:32:11,320 --> 02:32:13,200
Speaker 1: But now it puts a different perspective on it.

2518
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:15,920
Speaker 4: That's why I'm yeah, you know, and.

2519
02:32:16,480 --> 02:32:18,680
Speaker 12: My brother he's not a rapist, he's not a criminal.

2520
02:32:18,800 --> 02:32:21,880
Speaker 12: You know, he was having he had a successful business here,

2521
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:25,560
Speaker 12: his bo lingal products out here, and he was doing

2522
02:32:25,640 --> 02:32:26,279
Speaker 12: quite well.

2523
02:32:26,440 --> 02:32:27,600
Speaker 4: You know. He's a part of.

2524
02:32:27,560 --> 02:32:33,440
Speaker 12: The addition to the healing family, to our family, you know, healing.

2525
02:32:33,680 --> 02:32:36,000
Speaker 4: So he wasn't doing anything that was criminal.

2526
02:32:36,520 --> 02:32:38,879
Speaker 12: The only thing they looked at us being criminal is

2527
02:32:38,959 --> 02:32:43,120
Speaker 12: him coming here illegally and he got caught. But you

2528
02:32:43,160 --> 02:32:48,880
Speaker 12: know it's it's illegal immigrants of all races here. You know,

2529
02:32:48,920 --> 02:32:51,160
Speaker 12: you just can't look at the people from Hundud this

2530
02:32:51,240 --> 02:32:53,080
Speaker 12: because you know, my father's from hond this and he

2531
02:32:53,200 --> 02:32:55,520
Speaker 12: was born in Hondas and I have a couple other

2532
02:32:55,600 --> 02:32:59,960
Speaker 12: brothers and sisters in him Doas also before my dad passed,

2533
02:33:00,560 --> 02:33:02,360
Speaker 12: he had a couple of more kids out there.

2534
02:33:02,680 --> 02:33:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but anyway, you.

2535
02:33:05,320 --> 02:33:08,200
Speaker 1: Know, just so yeah and hold up thought right there,

2536
02:33:08,480 --> 02:33:10,240
Speaker 1: brother Abdula, because we got to step aside for a

2537
02:33:10,280 --> 02:33:12,400
Speaker 1: few months. We'll come back though, let's talk about what

2538
02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:15,080
Speaker 1: you're doing, because you're carrying on your dad's legacy as

2539
02:33:15,120 --> 02:33:19,600
Speaker 1: they and before you know, when I told people come

2540
02:33:19,640 --> 02:33:23,240
Speaker 1: on there, so the sister with lupus asked me to

2541
02:33:23,280 --> 02:33:26,359
Speaker 1: ask you if there's anything can be done for loopers,

2542
02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:29,360
Speaker 1: and then I told another person wanted to know about dementia.

2543
02:33:29,760 --> 02:33:32,600
Speaker 1: So I'll let you answer those questions. And family, you.

2544
02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:36,520
Speaker 12: Got that, yeah, because I put with people with you know,

2545
02:33:36,560 --> 02:33:39,000
Speaker 12: with dementia and lupis, so yeah, I would love to.

2546
02:33:39,520 --> 02:33:41,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's stay the brad we come back on

2547
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:43,280
Speaker 1: which you do that? Seventeen minutes after the top of

2548
02:33:43,280 --> 02:33:45,440
Speaker 1: they our family, I guess it's Abdul Bowman. This is

2549
02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:48,080
Speaker 1: doctor Sabie's Sunday. Those you know the story of doctor

2550
02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:50,879
Speaker 1: Sabie got a question of health challenge. This is Abdul

2551
02:33:51,360 --> 02:33:53,440
Speaker 1: carrying on his dad's legacy. He's the person you can

2552
02:33:53,440 --> 02:33:55,280
Speaker 1: talk to right now and you can reach him at

2553
02:33:55,280 --> 02:33:58,480
Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six

2554
02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:01,160
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls next. Grand Rising family,

2555
02:34:01,200 --> 02:34:03,160
Speaker 1: thanks for rolling with us on this Wednesday morning with

2556
02:34:03,200 --> 02:34:05,960
Speaker 1: our guess that brother Abdul Abdul Bama, that doctor sab

2557
02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:07,760
Speaker 1: his son thoughs you know his dad and you know

2558
02:34:07,800 --> 02:34:09,840
Speaker 1: what is that as well? Abdula is not Karen on

2559
02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:12,800
Speaker 1: his dad's legacy. He's a now a healer. And before

2560
02:34:12,800 --> 02:34:14,280
Speaker 1: we left out, I told him about when I told

2561
02:34:14,280 --> 02:34:16,880
Speaker 1: folks it was you were coming on abdul h two

2562
02:34:16,959 --> 02:34:19,039
Speaker 1: questions to ask me, two different people, and one was

2563
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:20,000
Speaker 1: about loopas.

2564
02:34:21,760 --> 02:34:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was lupas. You know how I treated lupas.

2565
02:34:24,920 --> 02:34:29,480
Speaker 12: In fact, Shaquille O'Neil big Shaq contacted me about his

2566
02:34:29,600 --> 02:34:33,520
Speaker 12: sister who was dealing with lupas about a little close

2567
02:34:33,560 --> 02:34:36,200
Speaker 12: to a year ago, and he asked me could I

2568
02:34:36,280 --> 02:34:38,920
Speaker 12: possibly help her because he knows. When I was working

2569
02:34:38,959 --> 02:34:43,240
Speaker 12: on my dad's documentary with Nick Cannon, I helped Nick Cannon.

2570
02:34:43,560 --> 02:34:46,200
Speaker 12: You know, I made him better because he was really sick.

2571
02:34:46,240 --> 02:34:48,640
Speaker 12: He had called me into his officers like dude, you know,

2572
02:34:48,720 --> 02:34:52,040
Speaker 12: almost died, you know, about a year ago. This is

2573
02:34:52,080 --> 02:34:54,480
Speaker 12: a few years ago when we worked on a documentary.

2574
02:34:54,920 --> 02:34:57,080
Speaker 12: So I told Nick that I didn't hear nothing about

2575
02:34:57,120 --> 02:34:59,360
Speaker 12: it because I don't really follow the tabloids and all

2576
02:34:59,360 --> 02:35:02,200
Speaker 12: the other stuff. But anyway, while we were shooting my

2577
02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:06,400
Speaker 12: dad's documentary, he was taking my products and I have

2578
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:11,000
Speaker 12: a picture of me and Nick together, and Nick had

2579
02:35:11,240 --> 02:35:14,200
Speaker 12: gained his weight back, he had buffed up. He was

2580
02:35:14,240 --> 02:35:17,920
Speaker 12: doing really really well, still doing well. And you know,

2581
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:21,320
Speaker 12: when a man has loopis, it's hard for him to

2582
02:35:21,440 --> 02:35:24,560
Speaker 12: have conceive any type of children because his sperm count

2583
02:35:24,680 --> 02:35:28,879
Speaker 12: is really low and his body is weak. So after

2584
02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:32,600
Speaker 12: Nick became well, well you see what happened, Nick had

2585
02:35:32,640 --> 02:35:33,959
Speaker 12: But I what twelve kids?

2586
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:34,280
Speaker 2: Now?

2587
02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Oh your responsible for that?

2588
02:35:37,800 --> 02:35:38,400
Speaker 5: Huh?

2589
02:35:38,920 --> 02:35:41,080
Speaker 1: Increasing the population with Nick Cannon.

2590
02:35:41,400 --> 02:35:43,760
Speaker 5: I said, I said, as long as you get out

2591
02:35:43,800 --> 02:35:45,560
Speaker 5: there and have them, but don't name none of them,

2592
02:35:45,640 --> 02:35:50,640
Speaker 5: none of them after me, We're good. But anyway, wow, yeah,

2593
02:35:50,840 --> 02:35:54,600
Speaker 5: you know. And along and aside to that, she killed

2594
02:35:54,640 --> 02:35:57,640
Speaker 5: her neil sister, Latifa, she's doing a lot better as well.

2595
02:35:57,840 --> 02:36:00,520
Speaker 5: In fact, she called me last week until that numbers

2596
02:36:00,600 --> 02:36:03,000
Speaker 5: was back in the green and the doctor said that

2597
02:36:03,040 --> 02:36:06,720
Speaker 5: she no longer has lupis. So yeah, I had my

2598
02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:10,119
Speaker 5: formulas work for lupus. Also with dementia.

2599
02:36:12,680 --> 02:36:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, question about dementia, and it seems like we're hearing

2600
02:36:15,800 --> 02:36:17,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people now in our community coming down

2601
02:36:18,120 --> 02:36:19,600
Speaker 1: with dementia.

2602
02:36:21,640 --> 02:36:25,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, with dementia, what happens is well, what I

2603
02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:32,039
Speaker 12: uh from from My perspective and how I've been treating

2604
02:36:32,640 --> 02:36:36,359
Speaker 12: dementia is that you know, when you eat greasy foods,

2605
02:36:37,600 --> 02:36:41,720
Speaker 12: plaque builds up around the brain, you know, anywhere around

2606
02:36:41,720 --> 02:36:45,280
Speaker 12: the brain. And once that plaque builds up, it shuts

2607
02:36:45,360 --> 02:36:46,880
Speaker 12: off the oxygen.

2608
02:36:46,440 --> 02:36:50,039
Speaker 5: Level to the bank brain. So you know, you're not

2609
02:36:50,120 --> 02:36:53,440
Speaker 5: able to be cognizance, You're not able to you know,

2610
02:36:53,879 --> 02:36:58,600
Speaker 5: be focused, and you can lose memory, you can lose balance.

2611
02:36:58,800 --> 02:37:01,039
Speaker 5: You know when you start I messing with the brain.

2612
02:37:01,160 --> 02:37:05,640
Speaker 5: Depending on what area that that plaque has taken effect on,

2613
02:37:06,320 --> 02:37:09,600
Speaker 5: then you're going to have problems. But the products that

2614
02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:12,320
Speaker 5: I have, what it does. It goes in and start

2615
02:37:12,400 --> 02:37:15,880
Speaker 5: removing the plaque from the brain, and it's starts to

2616
02:37:15,920 --> 02:37:19,800
Speaker 5: get your body all healthy, from your stomach, from your testino,

2617
02:37:20,320 --> 02:37:23,520
Speaker 5: from your heart, liver, kidneys.

2618
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:27,720
Speaker 12: It started to treat everything and start to have everything

2619
02:37:28,200 --> 02:37:33,120
Speaker 12: functioning properly again. But as far as dementia and Alzheimer's,

2620
02:37:33,400 --> 02:37:38,360
Speaker 12: in fact, uh, these products have been so successful. Shack

2621
02:37:38,480 --> 02:37:42,520
Speaker 12: called me again with his nephew. His nephew was suffering

2622
02:37:42,560 --> 02:37:46,400
Speaker 12: from Tourette's syndrome. And it's been about a year now

2623
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:49,040
Speaker 12: since I've been working with his nephew, and he no

2624
02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:53,840
Speaker 12: longer has science of Tourette's period none. He's back in school.

2625
02:37:53,879 --> 02:37:57,840
Speaker 12: He's doing really really well. And you know, Shaq, when

2626
02:37:57,840 --> 02:37:59,959
Speaker 12: he was speaking with me, he was like, so these

2627
02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:02,119
Speaker 12: these products, your basic products.

2628
02:38:02,320 --> 02:38:03,600
Speaker 4: It he was just about anything.

2629
02:38:03,680 --> 02:38:06,279
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, shack, because what it does, it.

2630
02:38:06,160 --> 02:38:11,200
Speaker 12: Gives you an interra sular cleansing and inter salar cleansing.

2631
02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:14,959
Speaker 12: That term is meant to be about a washing of

2632
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:17,760
Speaker 12: the cells. You know, it's the complete washing of your

2633
02:38:17,760 --> 02:38:21,760
Speaker 12: whole sular system. So while you're taking these products, if you,

2634
02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:25,119
Speaker 12: you know, change your dietary properly and give your body

2635
02:38:25,160 --> 02:38:27,960
Speaker 12: a chance to rid itself of all the toxins, all

2636
02:38:28,000 --> 02:38:32,400
Speaker 12: the impurities, all excessive mucus out of the body. Then

2637
02:38:32,480 --> 02:38:36,000
Speaker 12: a body become able to breathe taken oxygen again and

2638
02:38:36,040 --> 02:38:39,959
Speaker 12: start to reform new sales through the entire cellular system.

2639
02:38:40,360 --> 02:38:43,320
Speaker 12: You know, your entire selar system. And it has been

2640
02:38:43,360 --> 02:38:45,800
Speaker 12: working over and over and over. In fact, I just

2641
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:50,320
Speaker 12: received a couple of more testimonials from people from a

2642
02:38:50,360 --> 02:38:53,879
Speaker 12: couple of clients last week. One was with a gentleman

2643
02:38:53,959 --> 02:38:57,039
Speaker 12: who had HSV one and two and he told me,

2644
02:38:57,080 --> 02:38:59,800
Speaker 12: after taking my products for four months, you no longer

2645
02:38:59,800 --> 02:39:03,360
Speaker 12: have HSB one and two no longer has it. Then

2646
02:39:03,440 --> 02:39:06,920
Speaker 12: another young lady she had cancer through her body and

2647
02:39:07,760 --> 02:39:10,760
Speaker 12: after taking my products it reversed it. She no longer

2648
02:39:10,879 --> 02:39:14,760
Speaker 12: She went to two pet scans and it shows that

2649
02:39:14,800 --> 02:39:17,920
Speaker 12: she had no cancer any science of cancer throughout her

2650
02:39:18,360 --> 02:39:19,039
Speaker 12: entire body.

2651
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:23,600
Speaker 1: So here for a second, though, brother Ail at twenty

2652
02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:25,160
Speaker 1: six off the top, and we got some folks want

2653
02:39:25,200 --> 02:39:26,840
Speaker 1: to talk you, but does this go back to what

2654
02:39:26,879 --> 02:39:29,720
Speaker 1: your dad said? There's only one disease and it's mucous,

2655
02:39:30,040 --> 02:39:30,600
Speaker 1: So they're.

2656
02:39:30,440 --> 02:39:35,359
Speaker 12: Folgious cue that in the court of laws that mucus

2657
02:39:35,440 --> 02:39:38,400
Speaker 12: was the corprit for a lot of different things. Now

2658
02:39:38,480 --> 02:39:42,280
Speaker 12: as far as cancer, cancer to me is a little

2659
02:39:42,280 --> 02:39:46,560
Speaker 12: different because you know cancer, like when you have cancer,

2660
02:39:46,640 --> 02:39:49,560
Speaker 12: the colon is actually a sowre that just doesn't heal.

2661
02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:52,760
Speaker 12: So the formula that I have was going to start

2662
02:39:52,800 --> 02:39:57,080
Speaker 12: repairing that sword or whatever the cancer may be.

2663
02:39:57,720 --> 02:39:59,280
Speaker 5: And all it does is.

2664
02:39:59,240 --> 02:40:02,279
Speaker 12: Just go in and just start cleansing the body, removing

2665
02:40:02,320 --> 02:40:06,160
Speaker 12: the old cells and revitalizing the body with new cells,

2666
02:40:06,840 --> 02:40:10,480
Speaker 12: so you know, and in doing so, it's start reversing

2667
02:40:10,600 --> 02:40:13,640
Speaker 12: just about any pathology that's out there. I am yet

2668
02:40:13,640 --> 02:40:17,320
Speaker 12: to work with someone that has a pathology or any

2669
02:40:17,400 --> 02:40:20,120
Speaker 12: form of cancer that you know, would be a challenge

2670
02:40:20,160 --> 02:40:23,040
Speaker 12: that I could really you know, show how these products

2671
02:40:23,040 --> 02:40:23,560
Speaker 12: really work.

2672
02:40:24,080 --> 02:40:27,119
Speaker 4: And uh, so far.

2673
02:40:27,200 --> 02:40:29,800
Speaker 12: Everybody's been coming to me with just about any type

2674
02:40:29,840 --> 02:40:33,760
Speaker 12: of pathology has been working. These products have been working.

2675
02:40:33,760 --> 02:40:36,080
Speaker 12: That my father showed me how to formulan put together

2676
02:40:36,520 --> 02:40:39,080
Speaker 12: to actually help people for real and not just do

2677
02:40:39,200 --> 02:40:43,000
Speaker 12: it for monetary gains. Because a lot of people out there,

2678
02:40:43,040 --> 02:40:47,279
Speaker 12: you know, have it just bombarded with people saying doctor

2679
02:40:47,320 --> 02:40:51,400
Speaker 12: Saber approved, and you know, doctor Saber, it's a bunch

2680
02:40:51,400 --> 02:40:52,920
Speaker 12: of AI stuff out there.

2681
02:40:53,080 --> 02:40:54,240
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous.

2682
02:40:54,480 --> 02:40:57,120
Speaker 5: It's ridiculous and a lot of So how do we

2683
02:40:57,160 --> 02:40:58,240
Speaker 5: know which is the real one?

2684
02:41:00,120 --> 02:41:02,600
Speaker 12: What I tell people if their last name isn't bowman

2685
02:41:02,920 --> 02:41:07,959
Speaker 12: bowa and my father's Alfredoboman, that's his actual name, was

2686
02:41:08,080 --> 02:41:12,520
Speaker 12: Alfredoboman aka doctor Savii. I'm a dual bowman. Then my

2687
02:41:12,640 --> 02:41:16,800
Speaker 12: oldest brother out there and Honduras who's running the center

2688
02:41:16,959 --> 02:41:20,840
Speaker 12: the Aousha village along with my sister. He's Alfredo Bowman

2689
02:41:21,000 --> 02:41:24,560
Speaker 12: Junior and my sister side my bowman. So if you're

2690
02:41:24,600 --> 02:41:27,520
Speaker 12: not dealing with a bowman, you're not actually getting the

2691
02:41:27,640 --> 02:41:30,840
Speaker 12: formulists that my father left and that you know, we're

2692
02:41:30,959 --> 02:41:33,600
Speaker 12: using a lot of these people. They hear my dad

2693
02:41:33,640 --> 02:41:36,959
Speaker 12: speak about different herbs and stuff, so they take that

2694
02:41:37,240 --> 02:41:39,560
Speaker 12: and they just try to run with it. But they

2695
02:41:39,560 --> 02:41:42,520
Speaker 12: don't realize when my father speaks on certain herbs that

2696
02:41:42,680 --> 02:41:45,840
Speaker 12: you may mention, like everybody's calling me about the Bontana oil,

2697
02:41:46,480 --> 02:41:50,160
Speaker 12: he just didn't use the Bontana oil alone. He mentioned

2698
02:41:50,160 --> 02:41:53,720
Speaker 12: the batana oil because it's someone douras and that's one

2699
02:41:53,760 --> 02:41:57,119
Speaker 12: of the oils that we use to formulate our hair

2700
02:41:57,480 --> 02:42:01,000
Speaker 12: food oil. But it's just not b by itself. Because

2701
02:42:01,040 --> 02:42:04,240
Speaker 12: if you're gonna use bontana Bontana oil by itself, you

2702
02:42:04,280 --> 02:42:05,920
Speaker 12: can use a coconut oil by itself.

2703
02:42:06,040 --> 02:42:06,760
Speaker 4: You can use an.

2704
02:42:06,680 --> 02:42:08,920
Speaker 12: Olive oil by itself, and all of will be affected

2705
02:42:08,959 --> 02:42:12,240
Speaker 12: in the hair. But we formulate this we with these

2706
02:42:12,320 --> 02:42:16,080
Speaker 12: other oils and herbs. That makes it more powerful. That

2707
02:42:16,240 --> 02:42:20,920
Speaker 12: gives your uh, you know, makes your hair follicules grow quicker,

2708
02:42:21,400 --> 02:42:25,000
Speaker 12: because what it does it unclogs the hair folicles around

2709
02:42:25,280 --> 02:42:28,600
Speaker 12: around your head, around the scalp, and in doing so

2710
02:42:29,320 --> 02:42:33,359
Speaker 12: it brings him more oxygen and allows the hair folicles

2711
02:42:33,360 --> 02:42:37,039
Speaker 12: to grow even faster and quicker. But Bontana oil is good,

2712
02:42:37,080 --> 02:42:39,680
Speaker 12: but it's not gonna do it byself. And I've been

2713
02:42:39,720 --> 02:42:43,320
Speaker 12: having people calling me like all day every day, do

2714
02:42:43,400 --> 02:42:46,560
Speaker 12: I use that bontana oil? But I don't really see

2715
02:42:46,600 --> 02:42:48,840
Speaker 12: no results. My hair is still the same, it's like,

2716
02:42:49,240 --> 02:42:51,920
Speaker 12: and I tell him it's it's because when my father,

2717
02:42:52,000 --> 02:42:54,920
Speaker 12: when he mentioned these certain herbs and things, he's not

2718
02:42:55,080 --> 02:42:58,560
Speaker 12: giving you the complete formula. So people just take whatever

2719
02:42:58,600 --> 02:43:01,240
Speaker 12: he says and run with it. But just so they

2720
02:43:01,280 --> 02:43:04,640
Speaker 12: don't have the complete formu of anything with he steaks on.

2721
02:43:06,120 --> 02:43:08,080
Speaker 1: Right, hold that thought right there. Thirty minutes at the top,

2722
02:43:08,120 --> 02:43:09,840
Speaker 1: and we got a bunch of folks on a question

2723
02:43:09,879 --> 02:43:11,200
Speaker 1: for you, So let's get to them, and let's go

2724
02:43:11,200 --> 02:43:15,400
Speaker 1: to Monte's calling from Pentagon Cities Online. One Grand rising, Monte,

2725
02:43:15,560 --> 02:43:17,919
Speaker 1: you a question for Brother abdual.

2726
02:43:19,080 --> 02:43:25,360
Speaker 4: Brian rising. I'm brother Abdul. How you doing, Monte? I'm

2727
02:43:25,400 --> 02:43:26,480
Speaker 4: doing good.

2728
02:43:26,600 --> 02:43:30,920
Speaker 5: Everything a blessing, okay. But I spoke with you two.

2729
02:43:30,760 --> 02:43:34,440
Speaker 13: Times already, like on the radio and you and I

2730
02:43:34,520 --> 02:43:37,320
Speaker 13: was trying to get some information from my brother. He

2731
02:43:37,440 --> 02:43:40,800
Speaker 13: got like protein in his yen and uh, he got

2732
02:43:40,879 --> 02:43:45,000
Speaker 13: your protein in the year he got a ttp and yeah,

2733
02:43:45,080 --> 02:43:48,000
Speaker 13: you said you can help him, but you know, and

2734
02:43:48,080 --> 02:43:50,959
Speaker 13: then I understand you're real busy. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying

2735
02:43:50,959 --> 02:43:52,199
Speaker 13: to say, if I get them help with my brother.

2736
02:43:53,120 --> 02:43:56,360
Speaker 12: Okay, well, you know you can refer to my website.

2737
02:43:56,360 --> 02:43:58,959
Speaker 12: You could go in order my products on my website. Now,

2738
02:43:59,000 --> 02:44:00,879
Speaker 12: this is what you do, my brother, because I received

2739
02:44:00,920 --> 02:44:03,320
Speaker 12: a lot of phone calls from different people all day,

2740
02:44:03,360 --> 02:44:06,400
Speaker 12: every single day. So if I don't get back with you,

2741
02:44:06,440 --> 02:44:08,800
Speaker 12: please just be patient with me because I'm trying to

2742
02:44:08,800 --> 02:44:12,960
Speaker 12: handle everybody at once. And now I'm now seeing how

2743
02:44:13,040 --> 02:44:15,720
Speaker 12: my father what he was going through, because you know,

2744
02:44:15,760 --> 02:44:17,360
Speaker 12: I used to see him sit up there on that

2745
02:44:17,480 --> 02:44:18,720
Speaker 12: phone all day long.

2746
02:44:18,840 --> 02:44:19,879
Speaker 5: I said, you still on the phone.

2747
02:44:19,920 --> 02:44:21,360
Speaker 12: He's like, yeah, I'm sow on the phone up though.

2748
02:44:21,360 --> 02:44:22,760
Speaker 12: I got a lot of people I'm trying to take

2749
02:44:22,760 --> 02:44:25,680
Speaker 12: care of. Now I'm leaving that what he was doing.

2750
02:44:25,959 --> 02:44:28,920
Speaker 12: But anyway, Uh, yeah, I have something that would help

2751
02:44:28,959 --> 02:44:32,280
Speaker 12: your brother. So, uh, you can call me if you

2752
02:44:32,280 --> 02:44:35,920
Speaker 12: could reach out to me. My number is three two three.

2753
02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:39,280
Speaker 12: I got the number I got. I got three of them. Yea, yeah,

2754
02:44:39,360 --> 02:44:40,040
Speaker 12: I got all three.

2755
02:44:40,400 --> 02:44:42,720
Speaker 4: I only use one. Only only use the three.

2756
02:44:42,560 --> 02:44:45,280
Speaker 12: Two, three five three five number to reach me now

2757
02:44:45,440 --> 02:44:47,920
Speaker 12: if you use the eight one eight text text me,

2758
02:44:48,160 --> 02:44:51,080
Speaker 12: uh your information only on that phone because I'm not

2759
02:44:51,360 --> 02:44:54,360
Speaker 12: you know, I use that phone for text only. But

2760
02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:56,600
Speaker 12: if you need to speak with me, contact me on

2761
02:44:56,640 --> 02:45:00,400
Speaker 12: the three two three five three five eight nine seven

2762
02:45:00,400 --> 02:45:03,080
Speaker 12: to and call me soon as soon as we hang

2763
02:45:03,160 --> 02:45:05,440
Speaker 12: up from the show, and I'll go everything with you

2764
02:45:05,480 --> 02:45:06,600
Speaker 12: and we could get him started.

2765
02:45:07,520 --> 02:45:11,840
Speaker 4: Can I ask you one more question? Yeah, is it

2766
02:45:11,879 --> 02:45:15,800
Speaker 4: a cure or you're gonna be reversed or managed? Man,

2767
02:45:15,840 --> 02:45:18,200
Speaker 4: we're gonna reverse it. We're gonna reverse it, my man.

2768
02:45:18,480 --> 02:45:20,879
Speaker 4: We're gonna have him on the right down and everything.

2769
02:45:21,040 --> 02:45:23,560
Speaker 4: And he still you know, still, you know, he got

2770
02:45:23,560 --> 02:45:26,880
Speaker 4: a lot better, but you know, yeah, Okay, Well, once

2771
02:45:26,920 --> 02:45:29,400
Speaker 4: we're shore taking my products, we'll take it. Yeah, no problem,

2772
02:45:29,440 --> 02:45:34,360
Speaker 4: my brother, But call me, okay, thank you, Yeah, text

2773
02:45:34,400 --> 02:45:35,400
Speaker 4: me and I'll call you back.

2774
02:45:35,440 --> 02:45:38,920
Speaker 5: I promise you. I definitely will thank you.

2775
02:45:38,959 --> 02:45:41,960
Speaker 4: All right, Thank you, Carl, Thank you, sir.

2776
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:43,840
Speaker 1: Twenty it away from the top of our brother Callus

2777
02:45:43,959 --> 02:45:46,920
Speaker 1: is calling us from Waldorf. He's online two grand rising

2778
02:45:46,959 --> 02:45:50,320
Speaker 1: brother call it's a question for Abdul grand.

2779
02:45:50,200 --> 02:45:56,000
Speaker 14: Rising, my dear brothers uh brother Abdul uh dementia and

2780
02:45:56,080 --> 02:46:00,720
Speaker 14: related symptoms are running rampant in the African American community,

2781
02:46:01,760 --> 02:46:08,640
Speaker 14: particularly in Maryland. Here to what extent does a slave

2782
02:46:08,760 --> 02:46:15,320
Speaker 14: so called slave diet contribute to that particular disease I'm

2783
02:46:15,320 --> 02:46:20,600
Speaker 14: talking about, You know, things like pig feet, chidling, smoke man.

2784
02:46:20,680 --> 02:46:24,640
Speaker 12: Think the it contributes one hundred percent to that. And

2785
02:46:24,680 --> 02:46:27,160
Speaker 12: not only that. I was just watching the news Channel

2786
02:46:27,240 --> 02:46:32,000
Speaker 12: nine news last night. What the other culprit is is

2787
02:46:32,520 --> 02:46:37,880
Speaker 12: ultra processed foods. They were showing all these super processed foods,

2788
02:46:37,959 --> 02:46:41,120
Speaker 12: these fake foods. So when you eat this stuff and

2789
02:46:41,240 --> 02:46:44,879
Speaker 12: start clogging arteries, to start clogging the brain and start

2790
02:46:45,640 --> 02:46:49,879
Speaker 12: wreaking havoc on your whole cellular system. Once your cellular

2791
02:46:49,959 --> 02:46:52,600
Speaker 12: system starts to break down, then you're gonna have a

2792
02:46:52,640 --> 02:46:55,879
Speaker 12: problem because you cancer cannivey when your body becomes more

2793
02:46:55,920 --> 02:46:59,800
Speaker 12: on the acidic side. So my products move you from

2794
02:46:59,840 --> 02:47:03,600
Speaker 12: that that cidic side to more other alkaline side. So

2795
02:47:04,440 --> 02:47:07,800
Speaker 12: you know, once you become more on the alkaline side

2796
02:47:07,840 --> 02:47:10,879
Speaker 12: and start ritting the body of all the toxins, all

2797
02:47:10,920 --> 02:47:13,920
Speaker 12: the grease, all the all the garbage, and all the

2798
02:47:13,959 --> 02:47:18,199
Speaker 12: poisons from those ultra processed food along with eating pigs

2799
02:47:18,280 --> 02:47:20,920
Speaker 12: feet and you know, somebody shouldn't beat pork anyway.

2800
02:47:21,440 --> 02:47:23,119
Speaker 5: You know, pork, that is.

2801
02:47:23,080 --> 02:47:26,120
Speaker 12: One of the most dailiest animals that you can. Now,

2802
02:47:26,240 --> 02:47:28,240
Speaker 12: if you go out there and catch a wild boar,

2803
02:47:28,680 --> 02:47:32,560
Speaker 12: that's different. But a pig, a domesticated pig, it doesn't

2804
02:47:32,560 --> 02:47:35,600
Speaker 12: have any sweat glands. So all of that poison is

2805
02:47:35,680 --> 02:47:38,000
Speaker 12: inside of that pig. And when you eat that stuff,

2806
02:47:38,360 --> 02:47:40,360
Speaker 12: you know, your pork chops and all that stuff, it.

2807
02:47:40,320 --> 02:47:41,040
Speaker 4: Doesn't come out.

2808
02:47:41,480 --> 02:47:45,840
Speaker 12: So you you are giving your body stuff that's coming

2809
02:47:45,879 --> 02:47:48,920
Speaker 12: from that pig. That's you know, and a lot of

2810
02:47:49,000 --> 02:47:51,280
Speaker 12: these animals, they don't tell you, a lot of these

2811
02:47:51,280 --> 02:47:53,680
Speaker 12: animals are infected. A lot of these animals are dead.

2812
02:47:53,680 --> 02:47:55,280
Speaker 12: When they go out to go get these animals and

2813
02:47:55,320 --> 02:47:57,640
Speaker 12: slaughter them, they already slaughter they already dead.

2814
02:47:58,040 --> 02:48:00,119
Speaker 4: So if that animal.

2815
02:47:59,720 --> 02:48:02,599
Speaker 5: Would just the cow or the pig or whatever.

2816
02:48:02,280 --> 02:48:06,440
Speaker 12: It is, chicken is diseased, then guess what's gonna happen

2817
02:48:06,480 --> 02:48:08,480
Speaker 12: when you eat it. I don't care if you fry,

2818
02:48:08,600 --> 02:48:12,760
Speaker 12: freaking see it, boil it, bake it. You can't get

2819
02:48:12,800 --> 02:48:16,000
Speaker 12: that out of there. So when you eat that animal's blood,

2820
02:48:16,080 --> 02:48:20,640
Speaker 12: it's gonna intertwine with your blood, and then you're gonna

2821
02:48:20,680 --> 02:48:24,360
Speaker 12: have a problem, that's why. And not just only in Washington,

2822
02:48:24,480 --> 02:48:26,680
Speaker 12: we have it in la I mean if you go

2823
02:48:26,720 --> 02:48:28,920
Speaker 12: into that, all you have to do go inside of

2824
02:48:28,959 --> 02:48:32,200
Speaker 12: a grocery store where you are in your area and

2825
02:48:32,920 --> 02:48:37,560
Speaker 12: watch everybody's body shape in that area, watch what they eating.

2826
02:48:37,640 --> 02:48:39,320
Speaker 5: Look look at the food in their basket.

2827
02:48:39,680 --> 02:48:44,160
Speaker 12: Everybody is basically eating the same exact thing, so they're

2828
02:48:44,160 --> 02:48:48,000
Speaker 12: having almost the same exact problems. And when you go

2829
02:48:48,080 --> 02:48:50,720
Speaker 12: to that doctor, when he looks at you and you overweight,

2830
02:48:51,200 --> 02:48:53,360
Speaker 12: he's gonna run off and tell you, oh, I can

2831
02:48:53,400 --> 02:48:56,119
Speaker 12: see right. You know you have pre diabetic. He tells

2832
02:48:56,280 --> 02:48:58,800
Speaker 12: they get them to everybody who's a little bit overweight,

2833
02:48:59,040 --> 02:49:01,720
Speaker 12: you're pre diabetic or your diabetic, and you have to

2834
02:49:01,760 --> 02:49:05,560
Speaker 12: get on blood pressure medication, which that has been recalled

2835
02:49:06,400 --> 02:49:10,680
Speaker 12: about two months ago. They started recalling that blood pressure

2836
02:49:10,720 --> 02:49:13,960
Speaker 12: medication because they found out with the blood pressure medication

2837
02:49:14,480 --> 02:49:18,080
Speaker 12: it was giving people cancer. So you know you're gonna

2838
02:49:18,120 --> 02:49:21,160
Speaker 12: lose lose situation when you go to that doctor and

2839
02:49:21,240 --> 02:49:23,840
Speaker 12: try to heal yourself of anything. You know, a lot

2840
02:49:23,840 --> 02:49:26,199
Speaker 12: of people put a lot of faith into those doctors.

2841
02:49:26,520 --> 02:49:28,680
Speaker 12: But see, the thing about the doctor is not the

2842
02:49:28,720 --> 02:49:32,840
Speaker 12: doctors of the yester years. No, these doctors are a business.

2843
02:49:32,920 --> 02:49:38,360
Speaker 12: It's about uh, you know, your insurance claim money. That's

2844
02:49:38,400 --> 02:49:39,240
Speaker 12: all they worry about.

2845
02:49:39,720 --> 02:49:39,879
Speaker 2: You know.

2846
02:49:39,959 --> 02:49:41,520
Speaker 5: If you I don't care, if you've been going to

2847
02:49:41,560 --> 02:49:44,160
Speaker 5: your doctor for thirty years, and if you walk in

2848
02:49:44,200 --> 02:49:46,680
Speaker 5: there and say, well, doctor, I no longer have my insurance.

2849
02:49:46,680 --> 02:49:48,600
Speaker 5: I've been coming here for thirty years. Can you help me?

2850
02:49:48,920 --> 02:49:52,000
Speaker 12: He's gonna tell you, and I actually almost promise you,

2851
02:49:52,040 --> 02:49:54,840
Speaker 12: he's gonna tell you, well, go try to get one

2852
02:49:54,879 --> 02:49:57,160
Speaker 12: of you know, some type of insurance that you can

2853
02:49:57,200 --> 02:49:59,200
Speaker 12: come in here where we can treat you.

2854
02:49:59,200 --> 02:49:59,760
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

2855
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,680
Speaker 5: Because it's all about them making money off.

2856
02:50:03,560 --> 02:50:04,520
Speaker 4: Your insurance claim.

2857
02:50:04,640 --> 02:50:08,320
Speaker 12: So and these new these pharmaceutical companies, they use the

2858
02:50:08,400 --> 02:50:11,800
Speaker 12: doctor to experiment on you with their new drugs that

2859
02:50:11,800 --> 02:50:14,200
Speaker 12: they come out with. That's why you have so many

2860
02:50:14,280 --> 02:50:17,400
Speaker 12: people on so many different types of medication, because when

2861
02:50:17,440 --> 02:50:20,320
Speaker 12: one medication doesn't work, they put you on another medication.

2862
02:50:20,400 --> 02:50:22,560
Speaker 12: When you have side effects on that one, then you

2863
02:50:22,600 --> 02:50:25,080
Speaker 12: take this other man and it goes on and on

2864
02:50:25,200 --> 02:50:28,600
Speaker 12: and on. But with my products, what they do they

2865
02:50:28,640 --> 02:50:32,560
Speaker 12: go in and start removing all the excessive waste, start

2866
02:50:32,600 --> 02:50:37,320
Speaker 12: cleansing the blood, start revitalizing the nerve system, so it

2867
02:50:37,400 --> 02:50:40,480
Speaker 12: starts to treat the body from the inside out.

2868
02:50:40,720 --> 02:50:41,400
Speaker 4: Once your.

2869
02:50:42,680 --> 02:50:44,800
Speaker 1: Brother, we got to take a short bag wet. Some

2870
02:50:44,800 --> 02:50:46,280
Speaker 1: folks want to talk to you. But also when you

2871
02:50:46,280 --> 02:50:48,800
Speaker 1: come back, as you mentioned, the doctors, they put you

2872
02:50:48,840 --> 02:50:50,960
Speaker 1: on medication, then you can have to keep on taking

2873
02:50:50,959 --> 02:50:54,000
Speaker 1: the medication. If medication worked, why did you need a refill?

2874
02:50:54,360 --> 02:50:56,600
Speaker 1: Is this the same with you a product that do

2875
02:50:56,640 --> 02:50:59,440
Speaker 1: you still need to keep on taking it after you've

2876
02:50:59,440 --> 02:51:02,000
Speaker 1: been cleansed. I'll let you respond to that. But also, okay,

2877
02:51:02,200 --> 02:51:03,720
Speaker 1: more important, I'll let you talk to the folks who

2878
02:51:03,720 --> 02:51:05,200
Speaker 1: want to who've got issues. They want to talk to

2879
02:51:05,240 --> 02:51:07,600
Speaker 1: you about family. You two can join this conversation with

2880
02:51:07,680 --> 02:51:10,440
Speaker 1: brother Abdulla. This is doctor Sabey's son. Reach out to

2881
02:51:10,520 --> 02:51:13,039
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

2882
02:51:13,320 --> 02:51:15,680
Speaker 1: seventy six and twenty two minutes away from the top day.

2883
02:51:15,680 --> 02:51:18,240
Speaker 1: I will take your phone calls and grand rising family.

2884
02:51:18,280 --> 02:51:20,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for rolling with us on this Wednesday morning. It's

2885
02:51:20,320 --> 02:51:23,160
Speaker 1: a hum day and our guess is Brother Abdul Abdul

2886
02:51:23,320 --> 02:51:26,199
Speaker 1: is doctor Sabee's son is carrying on his dad's legacy

2887
02:51:26,200 --> 02:51:29,199
Speaker 1: of healing people. Doctor Sabees you know, is called the healer.

2888
02:51:29,680 --> 02:51:32,640
Speaker 1: And if you got an issue, a health concern, please

2889
02:51:32,680 --> 02:51:35,280
Speaker 1: give brother Abdullah call. Don't wait for somebody else to

2890
02:51:35,600 --> 02:51:37,920
Speaker 1: think that has a similar issue. Be proactive when it

2891
02:51:37,959 --> 02:51:40,120
Speaker 1: comes to your health. And that number again is eight

2892
02:51:40,200 --> 02:51:43,440
Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. Sean

2893
02:51:43,520 --> 02:51:45,920
Speaker 1: John's reaching out to us. He's in Atlanta, he's online

2894
02:51:45,959 --> 02:51:49,959
Speaker 1: four grand rising Shaw John. Your question for brother abdul.

2895
02:51:51,240 --> 02:51:54,160
Speaker 5: Bayon Roger brother, how you doing?

2896
02:51:54,800 --> 02:51:55,360
Speaker 4: How you doing?

2897
02:51:55,360 --> 02:52:01,240
Speaker 5: Sean John doing great, great show? Three things real quick

2898
02:52:02,640 --> 02:52:09,320
Speaker 5: dot ed reached out the function this dysfunction. Yeah, men,

2899
02:52:10,520 --> 02:52:12,720
Speaker 5: that kind of situation, you know, that kind of come

2900
02:52:12,840 --> 02:52:15,720
Speaker 5: up and down even a situation even as we age.

2901
02:52:16,040 --> 02:52:21,560
Speaker 5: And also floaters in your eye floaters, uh you know,

2902
02:52:21,840 --> 02:52:24,280
Speaker 5: re vision floaters. Can you go with that? And the

2903
02:52:24,400 --> 02:52:28,119
Speaker 5: last one you getting squeezes went in? Uh colon, can't

2904
02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:30,960
Speaker 5: you know? Colon you're Colon for mint special for men.

2905
02:52:31,400 --> 02:52:35,000
Speaker 5: Those top three there if you can go with those, Okay,

2906
02:52:35,440 --> 02:52:37,320
Speaker 5: Now I have treated all three of those what.

2907
02:52:37,440 --> 02:52:38,240
Speaker 4: You just mentioned.

2908
02:52:38,680 --> 02:52:42,320
Speaker 12: Now as far as the floaters, those eye floaters has

2909
02:52:42,400 --> 02:52:45,560
Speaker 12: something to do with your the pigmentation, not the pigmentation

2910
02:52:45,680 --> 02:52:48,360
Speaker 12: but the irish in your eyes and you have to

2911
02:52:48,400 --> 02:52:51,640
Speaker 12: clean your blood, you know, with those eye floaters. Once

2912
02:52:51,680 --> 02:52:54,560
Speaker 12: you start to cleanse the blood, then they will begin

2913
02:52:54,720 --> 02:52:56,680
Speaker 12: to dissipate. You know a lot of people say, well,

2914
02:52:56,760 --> 02:52:59,840
Speaker 12: the eye floaters, they you know, they blame everything on parasites.

2915
02:53:00,360 --> 02:53:02,920
Speaker 5: Parasites, you know, you do. If you're a meat eater,

2916
02:53:03,040 --> 02:53:05,560
Speaker 5: you do have you know, certain amount of parasites in

2917
02:53:05,600 --> 02:53:08,080
Speaker 5: your body. But they're not going to cause everything to

2918
02:53:08,120 --> 02:53:11,600
Speaker 5: happen to you that that's going wrong. But as you

2919
02:53:11,640 --> 02:53:15,000
Speaker 5: start to cleanse your blood, then those eye floaters will

2920
02:53:15,040 --> 02:53:20,400
Speaker 5: go away. And as far as ed uh, your prostate.

2921
02:53:19,920 --> 02:53:23,879
Speaker 12: Gland is bombarded with all types of debris and you're

2922
02:53:23,920 --> 02:53:27,200
Speaker 12: losing blood flows. So circulation is the problem with that one.

2923
02:53:27,640 --> 02:53:30,440
Speaker 12: And I have a product for that, my Male Complete Balance.

2924
02:53:30,920 --> 02:53:34,760
Speaker 12: The Male Complete Balance is designed to go into the

2925
02:53:34,800 --> 02:53:37,680
Speaker 12: mail prostate gland and start clearing out all of the

2926
02:53:37,720 --> 02:53:41,840
Speaker 12: debris and start helping with your circulation. That's very, very

2927
02:53:41,959 --> 02:53:45,720
Speaker 12: very important. And not only that, if you suffer from

2928
02:53:45,800 --> 02:53:48,400
Speaker 12: me D I will while you taking my product, I

2929
02:53:48,480 --> 02:53:51,160
Speaker 12: was hiredly suggest that you walk and that would help

2930
02:53:51,320 --> 02:53:55,040
Speaker 12: you know, with your heart and that would help your

2931
02:53:55,040 --> 02:53:59,640
Speaker 12: blood flow. A lot better your circulation, your circulatory system.

2932
02:54:00,200 --> 02:54:04,640
Speaker 12: So cleansing the colon, my bioelectric cleanse will cleanse and

2933
02:54:04,760 --> 02:54:07,600
Speaker 12: nourish the colon. Not only just your colon, but it's

2934
02:54:07,600 --> 02:54:10,920
Speaker 12: going to remove all the excessive waste out of your

2935
02:54:11,000 --> 02:54:14,160
Speaker 12: larger and smaller intestines. And that has a lot to

2936
02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:17,000
Speaker 12: do with it did as well. Once you start cleansing

2937
02:54:17,040 --> 02:54:20,640
Speaker 12: your abdomen, your upper and lower intestines are removing all

2938
02:54:20,680 --> 02:54:24,720
Speaker 12: the excessive waste out of your body, then the circulatory

2939
02:54:24,800 --> 02:54:28,520
Speaker 12: system is going to start working properly again and you

2940
02:54:28,600 --> 02:54:31,640
Speaker 12: will have that ample blood flow. See that's the problem

2941
02:54:31,680 --> 02:54:35,320
Speaker 12: with people who takes the problem with people taking that

2942
02:54:35,400 --> 02:54:38,360
Speaker 12: biagora and that salles all of that stuff. Your body

2943
02:54:38,440 --> 02:54:41,640
Speaker 12: is clogged, so you know your prostrate is clogged. So

2944
02:54:41,800 --> 02:54:45,480
Speaker 12: they give you this that sialits and that biagraa to

2945
02:54:45,600 --> 02:54:49,760
Speaker 12: have your heart pumping harder to push that blood through

2946
02:54:49,760 --> 02:54:52,520
Speaker 12: your prostate. But you don't want to do that because

2947
02:54:52,600 --> 02:54:54,880
Speaker 12: when that happens, if you have a weak heart, you

2948
02:54:54,920 --> 02:54:57,920
Speaker 12: can't have a heart attack and no but time is

2949
02:54:57,959 --> 02:55:00,520
Speaker 12: going to start damaging the valves around on the art.

2950
02:55:00,640 --> 02:55:02,600
Speaker 12: So you don't want to do that as well. You

2951
02:55:02,640 --> 02:55:06,120
Speaker 12: want to completely clean your prostate gland. That's what you

2952
02:55:06,160 --> 02:55:08,320
Speaker 12: want to do. And I have a package full of

2953
02:55:08,440 --> 02:55:12,879
Speaker 12: males to my complete package that will help you completely.

2954
02:55:13,120 --> 02:55:14,920
Speaker 12: And I had a lot of people, and I'm talking

2955
02:55:14,920 --> 02:55:17,760
Speaker 12: about younger men came to you know that come to

2956
02:55:17,840 --> 02:55:20,879
Speaker 12: me and say, man, I'm only forty, I'm having prostate problems.

2957
02:55:21,040 --> 02:55:22,560
Speaker 12: You know, a lot of times they have to do

2958
02:55:22,640 --> 02:55:24,640
Speaker 12: with the food that you eat. If you're eating a

2959
02:55:24,640 --> 02:55:27,120
Speaker 12: lot of red meat, if you eating a lot of chicken,

2960
02:55:27,440 --> 02:55:30,480
Speaker 12: it's gonna clog your i domen It's gonna clog you intestine.

2961
02:55:30,480 --> 02:55:32,320
Speaker 4: Along with that, it's going.

2962
02:55:32,160 --> 02:55:35,080
Speaker 12: To reduce the flood your blood flow to the prostate,

2963
02:55:35,120 --> 02:55:37,880
Speaker 12: and it's gonna clog that as well. So you want

2964
02:55:37,879 --> 02:55:41,040
Speaker 12: to eliminate as much meat as possible, you know, and

2965
02:55:41,080 --> 02:55:41,840
Speaker 12: with the stuff that.

2966
02:55:41,800 --> 02:55:44,879
Speaker 5: They do now real quick, yeah, real put on this

2967
02:55:44,920 --> 02:55:47,120
Speaker 5: last thing. I know you said with the floaters, So

2968
02:55:47,280 --> 02:55:49,600
Speaker 5: what could I take? I know, people hot towels on

2969
02:55:49,680 --> 02:55:52,360
Speaker 5: my head, I mean my eyes every night, I know,

2970
02:55:52,480 --> 02:55:56,360
Speaker 5: doing your eyes stretching exercises, you know, of course, uh,

2971
02:55:56,440 --> 02:55:58,359
Speaker 5: with with that, I know you said with the floaters,

2972
02:55:58,360 --> 02:55:59,680
Speaker 5: because I know when I went to the doctor that

2973
02:55:59,680 --> 02:56:02,000
Speaker 5: she would well it's not really a cure for It's

2974
02:56:02,040 --> 02:56:04,279
Speaker 5: kind of like, of course, I know you age you agent,

2975
02:56:04,360 --> 02:56:09,080
Speaker 5: but it's always a remedy cause it they don't I

2976
02:56:09,120 --> 02:56:10,440
Speaker 5: know you have the answers. Go ahead.

2977
02:56:10,879 --> 02:56:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2978
02:56:11,440 --> 02:56:15,160
Speaker 12: See with doctors, if they can't go in and do surgery,

2979
02:56:15,320 --> 02:56:18,080
Speaker 12: they always recommend is uncurable. If they can't go in

2980
02:56:18,080 --> 02:56:20,000
Speaker 12: and do surgery, give you a pill to try to

2981
02:56:20,040 --> 02:56:20,360
Speaker 12: heal you.

2982
02:56:20,480 --> 02:56:22,480
Speaker 4: Then they say it's it's incurable.

2983
02:56:22,879 --> 02:56:25,320
Speaker 12: But with the eye floaters, I guarantee my brother, I

2984
02:56:25,360 --> 02:56:29,680
Speaker 12: have this an another product caused the bio energy revitalizers.

2985
02:56:29,920 --> 02:56:33,200
Speaker 12: It will remove the floaters. You will see a decrease

2986
02:56:33,320 --> 02:56:35,920
Speaker 12: after one month after taking these products, you will see

2987
02:56:35,920 --> 02:56:38,360
Speaker 12: a decrease in the floaters. And after being all my

2988
02:56:38,440 --> 02:56:41,560
Speaker 12: products are three months, I guarantee those floaters.

2989
02:56:41,120 --> 02:56:42,119
Speaker 4: Will go away.

2990
02:56:43,240 --> 02:56:44,520
Speaker 2: All right, I will go away with my brother.

2991
02:56:44,560 --> 02:56:47,080
Speaker 12: I have people call me about those floaters all the time,

2992
02:56:47,560 --> 02:56:50,720
Speaker 12: and that's really prevalent in our community as well. But

2993
02:56:50,840 --> 02:56:53,400
Speaker 12: to me, I mean, what I find in my studies

2994
02:56:53,440 --> 02:56:55,600
Speaker 12: is that it comes from the food, all of that

2995
02:56:55,640 --> 02:56:58,200
Speaker 12: stuff and invade your body, man, and start clogging the

2996
02:56:58,240 --> 02:57:02,840
Speaker 12: system and start messing with the Yeah, I hold thought

2997
02:57:02,879 --> 02:57:03,959
Speaker 12: right there, But.

2998
02:57:04,680 --> 02:57:06,560
Speaker 1: He's just got some folks who've got questions for you.

2999
02:57:06,680 --> 02:57:08,920
Speaker 1: Erasing the clock now ten minutes away from the top.

3000
02:57:09,240 --> 02:57:12,800
Speaker 1: Carol's calling us. Carol is in Atlanta online too, Carol,

3001
02:57:12,959 --> 02:57:14,360
Speaker 1: a question for Abdul.

3002
02:57:15,760 --> 02:57:19,480
Speaker 15: My question is Hi, thanks you for cooking my call.

3003
02:57:21,400 --> 02:57:26,199
Speaker 15: Thank you so much. I'm calling because my son has

3004
02:57:25,920 --> 02:57:32,520
Speaker 15: h no cartilage between his hips and his cockst bone,

3005
02:57:33,240 --> 02:57:35,640
Speaker 15: and so it's really his hip bone.

3006
02:57:36,120 --> 02:57:36,600
Speaker 4: All the ca.

3007
02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:41,360
Speaker 15: Cartilages is gone and the only thing they are recommended

3008
02:57:41,400 --> 02:57:42,200
Speaker 15: a surgery.

3009
02:57:42,959 --> 02:57:43,520
Speaker 4: So that's.

3010
02:57:44,840 --> 02:57:49,040
Speaker 15: The many way that cattridge can be reduilt through the body.

3011
02:57:51,360 --> 02:57:52,280
Speaker 4: How old is your son?

3012
02:57:53,879 --> 02:57:56,240
Speaker 15: He's fifty nine or sixty?

3013
02:57:57,600 --> 02:57:58,280
Speaker 4: He's fifty nine?

3014
02:57:58,280 --> 02:57:59,320
Speaker 5: And hum much does the way?

3015
02:57:59,480 --> 02:58:00,520
Speaker 4: Is he is the overweight?

3016
02:58:02,160 --> 02:58:02,360
Speaker 7: Oh?

3017
02:58:02,440 --> 02:58:05,280
Speaker 15: He may? I would stay at least two hundreds of

3018
02:58:05,879 --> 02:58:06,440
Speaker 15: all like that.

3019
02:58:06,879 --> 02:58:13,480
Speaker 12: Two hundreds okay, about about two hundred or so?

3020
02:58:15,240 --> 02:58:18,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think like just to okay, well, I.

3021
02:58:18,120 --> 02:58:20,280
Speaker 5: Just need I just need a general idea of his weight.

3022
02:58:20,360 --> 02:58:23,560
Speaker 12: That's why I ask about his weight because I noticed

3023
02:58:23,640 --> 02:58:25,400
Speaker 12: a lot of people, a lot of men and women

3024
02:58:25,440 --> 02:58:29,080
Speaker 12: that are overweight. They start to suffer from need problems,

3025
02:58:29,080 --> 02:58:30,920
Speaker 12: and they the doctor. When they go into the doctor,

3026
02:58:30,959 --> 02:58:34,320
Speaker 12: the first that they said surgery. Okay, you go and

3027
02:58:34,360 --> 02:58:36,879
Speaker 12: do that surgery is it's not it's gonna make it

3028
02:58:36,920 --> 02:58:41,520
Speaker 12: worse because the problem is he has inflammation. So the

3029
02:58:41,560 --> 02:58:44,280
Speaker 12: products that if he decided, if you decide to, you know,

3030
02:58:44,440 --> 02:58:47,240
Speaker 12: start going on my products, he would have to reduce

3031
02:58:47,320 --> 02:58:51,000
Speaker 12: his meat intake. And you know if he do potatoes

3032
02:58:51,040 --> 02:58:53,320
Speaker 12: and sodas and stuff like that, he would kind of

3033
02:58:53,320 --> 02:58:55,640
Speaker 12: have to cut out all that out. And what happens

3034
02:58:55,800 --> 02:58:58,039
Speaker 12: is once you start taking my products, as he loses

3035
02:58:58,080 --> 02:59:01,840
Speaker 12: the inflammation, the car it's still there, but it's just

3036
02:59:01,879 --> 02:59:05,879
Speaker 12: being suppressed by the inflammation and all the excessive weight.

3037
02:59:06,200 --> 02:59:08,840
Speaker 12: But once you start losing that waist out of his body,

3038
02:59:09,320 --> 02:59:13,840
Speaker 12: then the cartilage is gonna magically appear, which is never

3039
02:59:13,920 --> 02:59:17,160
Speaker 12: in anywhere. It becomes flattened. And so when the doctor

3040
02:59:17,200 --> 02:59:19,280
Speaker 12: sees that, and they take full advantage of people in

3041
02:59:19,280 --> 02:59:21,720
Speaker 12: our community, in a black community, so soon as they

3042
02:59:21,760 --> 02:59:24,080
Speaker 12: see you overweight, the first thing gonna say is you

3043
02:59:24,120 --> 02:59:26,600
Speaker 12: need a knee replacement. Oh you need to hear replacement,

3044
02:59:26,840 --> 02:59:29,039
Speaker 12: When all you have to do is just lose some

3045
02:59:29,120 --> 02:59:32,600
Speaker 12: of the weight. Now, if you're somebody on the slimmer

3046
02:59:32,680 --> 02:59:36,040
Speaker 12: side and have you know, an injury or something like that,

3047
02:59:36,120 --> 02:59:38,600
Speaker 12: and you had, you know, problems with your with your

3048
02:59:38,640 --> 02:59:42,959
Speaker 12: cartilage or your knees. My bio mass, my bio mass

3049
02:59:43,080 --> 02:59:46,480
Speaker 12: is the sea mass, along with three other powerful herbs

3050
02:59:46,480 --> 02:59:50,720
Speaker 12: that helps rebuild the bone and cartilage back into your body,

3051
02:59:51,440 --> 02:59:52,640
Speaker 12: back into naturally.

3052
02:59:52,720 --> 02:59:55,600
Speaker 4: It will help rebuild it. So with your.

3053
02:59:55,520 --> 02:59:57,800
Speaker 12: Son, if he gets started on if you decide to

3054
02:59:57,800 --> 03:00:01,200
Speaker 12: get him selling on my program, I guess guarantee, uh

3055
03:00:01,480 --> 03:00:03,800
Speaker 12: he be if he's on my products for at least

3056
03:00:03,800 --> 03:00:06,640
Speaker 12: three months. I guarantee when you go back into that doctor,

3057
03:00:06,720 --> 03:00:08,800
Speaker 12: if he does everything what I asked him to do,

3058
03:00:09,120 --> 03:00:11,560
Speaker 12: they won't see that anymore. They're gonna say, oh, yeah,

3059
03:00:11,600 --> 03:00:15,280
Speaker 12: well you know he doesn't need that surgery anymore. They

3060
03:00:15,360 --> 03:00:18,360
Speaker 12: always I don't have people call me that. The doctors

3061
03:00:18,600 --> 03:00:21,760
Speaker 12: said that so many times, and I asked, well, what

3062
03:00:21,840 --> 03:00:23,959
Speaker 12: were you doing. The doctors can already see that they

3063
03:00:24,000 --> 03:00:26,280
Speaker 12: lost the weight, so they just said, well, keep on

3064
03:00:26,400 --> 03:00:29,000
Speaker 12: doing what you're doing. And you know you're doing fine now,

3065
03:00:29,640 --> 03:00:32,640
Speaker 12: you know. In fact, a young lady had sent me

3066
03:00:32,640 --> 03:00:37,360
Speaker 12: a testimony, well I reversed. She had cancer her liver

3067
03:00:37,879 --> 03:00:41,720
Speaker 12: and they had masteticized into her bones. After after she

3068
03:00:41,840 --> 03:00:44,360
Speaker 12: was on my products for about six months, it's out

3069
03:00:44,400 --> 03:00:45,920
Speaker 12: her and I can see you that, I can see

3070
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:47,000
Speaker 12: the testimony system.

3071
03:00:47,000 --> 03:00:49,560
Speaker 5: When you are you know, you contact me, you text

3072
03:00:49,600 --> 03:00:53,160
Speaker 5: me your name and it reversed out of her liver

3073
03:00:53,440 --> 03:00:54,640
Speaker 5: and out of her bones.

3074
03:00:55,200 --> 03:00:55,760
Speaker 4: So when she.

3075
03:00:55,800 --> 03:00:59,080
Speaker 12: Went back to the doctor, they they still puzzled. She said,

3076
03:00:59,160 --> 03:01:00,680
Speaker 12: she called me about two We used to go and say,

3077
03:01:00,680 --> 03:01:02,760
Speaker 12: do you know them doctors? That doctor still calling me

3078
03:01:02,879 --> 03:01:05,440
Speaker 12: asking me exactly where was I taking? What was I

3079
03:01:05,520 --> 03:01:08,160
Speaker 12: doing to get it out of her? Out of her bones?

3080
03:01:08,200 --> 03:01:11,080
Speaker 12: Because he said, in the forty years he's been a doctor,

3081
03:01:11,320 --> 03:01:16,039
Speaker 12: he have never ever, ever, ever ever seen cancer extracted

3082
03:01:16,040 --> 03:01:18,119
Speaker 12: from the bones naturally never.

3083
03:01:18,800 --> 03:01:19,480
Speaker 4: All right, hold.

3084
03:01:22,040 --> 03:01:25,160
Speaker 1: And Kelvin is calling from Toronto. Kelvin is online one

3085
03:01:25,480 --> 03:01:29,880
Speaker 1: grand rising. Kelvin your question for Abdul quickly?

3086
03:01:30,320 --> 03:01:32,960
Speaker 5: Can you speak to the thing about the blood type

3087
03:01:32,959 --> 03:01:35,080
Speaker 5: and the diet like some say if you have an

3088
03:01:35,080 --> 03:01:38,000
Speaker 5: old type you should be eating more meat or ate

3089
03:01:38,200 --> 03:01:40,520
Speaker 5: more plant based. Can you speak to that? There a

3090
03:01:40,560 --> 03:01:44,160
Speaker 5: lot of us, you know, you know people everybody has

3091
03:01:44,160 --> 03:01:47,000
Speaker 5: their own theories about different things. My brother, you know,

3092
03:01:47,160 --> 03:01:50,360
Speaker 5: for me, you know, for me, I treat everybody, you

3093
03:01:50,360 --> 03:01:52,800
Speaker 5: know my products. They go and they start cleansing the blood.

3094
03:01:53,160 --> 03:01:55,520
Speaker 5: They go in and start removing all the toxins from

3095
03:01:55,560 --> 03:01:59,480
Speaker 5: out of the body. They start to remove the old

3096
03:01:59,560 --> 03:02:03,640
Speaker 5: cells and we vitalize nobody with new cells and doing so,

3097
03:02:04,240 --> 03:02:07,160
Speaker 5: I don't care what blood type you are, is gonna

3098
03:02:07,200 --> 03:02:07,879
Speaker 5: hear your body?

3099
03:02:07,959 --> 03:02:10,400
Speaker 12: I don't care. And we can do a challenge right

3100
03:02:10,440 --> 03:02:14,160
Speaker 12: now on Carl Nelson's show. Somebody can call me after

3101
03:02:14,200 --> 03:02:17,640
Speaker 12: this show with any type of pathology and I would

3102
03:02:17,680 --> 03:02:20,520
Speaker 12: love to work with somebody with cancer. And so after

3103
03:02:20,560 --> 03:02:23,200
Speaker 12: I treat you for three months straight, I want you

3104
03:02:23,240 --> 03:02:25,200
Speaker 12: to go back on the Carl Nelson's show and you

3105
03:02:25,280 --> 03:02:27,840
Speaker 12: tell him your results, and we're gonna, you know, We're

3106
03:02:27,879 --> 03:02:31,040
Speaker 12: gonna put all this stuff, bring all this stuff to lights,

3107
03:02:31,080 --> 03:02:33,200
Speaker 12: you know, and we can do a challenge right now.

3108
03:02:33,480 --> 03:02:34,400
Speaker 4: I'm open for it.

3109
03:02:35,120 --> 03:02:36,480
Speaker 12: If you want to call me and say I do

3110
03:02:36,520 --> 03:02:38,280
Speaker 12: I have cancer, I have process, I have calling, I

3111
03:02:38,280 --> 03:02:41,680
Speaker 12: have liver, I have kidneys, whatever it is, let's get it.

3112
03:02:41,959 --> 03:02:44,160
Speaker 12: And I'm gonna show you the power of these products.

3113
03:02:44,160 --> 03:02:46,440
Speaker 12: And with my father what I have learned my father.

3114
03:02:46,720 --> 03:02:49,280
Speaker 12: Right now, I'm sixty four years old, and you know,

3115
03:02:49,360 --> 03:02:51,600
Speaker 12: I've been studying with my dad when I was fourteen.

3116
03:02:52,080 --> 03:02:53,680
Speaker 12: I remember he used to say, I'm dude, we go

3117
03:02:53,720 --> 03:02:55,280
Speaker 12: into the forest. I said, man, we ain't going to

3118
03:02:55,320 --> 03:02:58,000
Speaker 12: no forest. Man, it's Saturday after. I'm gonna go out

3119
03:02:58,000 --> 03:02:59,720
Speaker 12: there and ride my bike with my friends. He said, no,

3120
03:02:59,760 --> 03:03:01,240
Speaker 12: you're not. We're going to the far as. We're gonna

3121
03:03:01,240 --> 03:03:02,480
Speaker 12: go look at for berger. We're gonna look for this,

3122
03:03:02,480 --> 03:03:04,760
Speaker 12: We're gonna look for that. I said, okay, but you

3123
03:03:04,760 --> 03:03:06,480
Speaker 12: know I used to bring my friends with me, so

3124
03:03:06,640 --> 03:03:09,400
Speaker 12: I wasn't up there just witing running around as far

3125
03:03:09,440 --> 03:03:11,880
Speaker 12: as by myself. But yeah, I've been studying under my

3126
03:03:11,959 --> 03:03:14,720
Speaker 12: dad a long long time, and you know, I watched

3127
03:03:14,760 --> 03:03:16,720
Speaker 12: his methods. He taught me his methods. I was out

3128
03:03:16,720 --> 03:03:19,080
Speaker 12: in Honduras where he showed me all the different plans

3129
03:03:19,120 --> 03:03:21,440
Speaker 12: to use. In fact that we grow a lot of

3130
03:03:21,440 --> 03:03:23,880
Speaker 12: the herbs out there in Honduras, a lot of them

3131
03:03:24,240 --> 03:03:27,119
Speaker 12: they're not prebby to the United States. Because I don't

3132
03:03:27,200 --> 03:03:29,120
Speaker 12: use any herbs here from the United States because I

3133
03:03:29,120 --> 03:03:31,360
Speaker 12: don't trust them. I don't know if they sprayed or

3134
03:03:31,400 --> 03:03:34,320
Speaker 12: in anything, or what they have done. I just don't

3135
03:03:34,320 --> 03:03:37,000
Speaker 12: trust it. So the ninety percent of the herbs that

3136
03:03:37,080 --> 03:03:39,520
Speaker 12: I use are not from this country. It's not it's

3137
03:03:39,560 --> 03:03:42,840
Speaker 12: outside the United States, and the formula that he showed

3138
03:03:42,879 --> 03:03:44,760
Speaker 12: me how to use these different herbs. He showed me

3139
03:03:44,800 --> 03:03:47,400
Speaker 12: like two different types, two different herbs I mean, I'm sorry,

3140
03:03:47,440 --> 03:03:49,879
Speaker 12: two hundred different nerves, and he showed me how to

3141
03:03:49,959 --> 03:03:54,880
Speaker 12: use them in different combinations to combat different pathologies. Now

3142
03:03:55,040 --> 03:03:57,200
Speaker 12: I took it to a whole nother level because I

3143
03:03:57,240 --> 03:04:01,200
Speaker 12: was the electrical engineer, and I learned that, you know

3144
03:04:01,240 --> 03:04:04,480
Speaker 12: what electricity is. He also and my father he always

3145
03:04:04,480 --> 03:04:06,720
Speaker 12: talked about, you know, the earths are electrical.

3146
03:04:07,200 --> 03:04:08,080
Speaker 4: So what I did.

3147
03:04:08,440 --> 03:04:11,040
Speaker 12: I formulate these herbs and I use the method that

3148
03:04:11,160 --> 03:04:17,760
Speaker 12: I that I invented called bio electric heat infusion bio

3149
03:04:18,040 --> 03:04:22,160
Speaker 12: electra heat infusion, and what that is. I take all

3150
03:04:22,200 --> 03:04:25,040
Speaker 12: the herbs that he showed me, the commination of the herbs,

3151
03:04:25,120 --> 03:04:27,640
Speaker 12: so I put them through a process and it heats

3152
03:04:27,680 --> 03:04:30,400
Speaker 12: these herbs up to a certain temperature and then doing so,

3153
03:04:30,920 --> 03:04:34,400
Speaker 12: when you take these herbs from your body, temperatures ninety

3154
03:04:34,440 --> 03:04:36,800
Speaker 12: seven point six, ninety six point seven up around there.

3155
03:04:37,879 --> 03:04:40,920
Speaker 12: So when you take these products, when they dissolve into

3156
03:04:40,959 --> 03:04:44,440
Speaker 12: your body, then it's going to activate them all over

3157
03:04:44,520 --> 03:04:46,520
Speaker 12: again from the heat inside of your body.

3158
03:04:46,840 --> 03:04:47,200
Speaker 5: Boom.

3159
03:04:47,280 --> 03:04:49,520
Speaker 12: So that's why these herbs worked that the way they do.

3160
03:04:49,920 --> 03:04:53,360
Speaker 12: Where my dad was feeling people and six months, I'm

3161
03:04:53,400 --> 03:04:56,360
Speaker 12: healing them in three months using that method. And right

3162
03:04:56,400 --> 03:04:58,920
Speaker 12: before my dad passed, I had went over that method

3163
03:04:58,959 --> 03:05:00,760
Speaker 12: with him, so he said, I do. When I come back,

3164
03:05:00,800 --> 03:05:02,879
Speaker 12: we're gonna do it. But you know, when my dad

3165
03:05:02,879 --> 03:05:06,680
Speaker 12: had left her doers, he never came back. So I started,

3166
03:05:06,840 --> 03:05:10,760
Speaker 12: I went under, started doing that method and with the tonics.

3167
03:05:10,760 --> 03:05:13,520
Speaker 12: He showed me this right before he passed, he had

3168
03:05:13,600 --> 03:05:16,879
Speaker 12: this t ting tonic. So I took that tea ting

3169
03:05:16,959 --> 03:05:17,520
Speaker 12: tonic to.

3170
03:05:17,520 --> 03:05:18,920
Speaker 5: A whole other level.

3171
03:05:19,360 --> 03:05:22,560
Speaker 12: So all the herbs he was using for that tea

3172
03:05:22,640 --> 03:05:25,280
Speaker 12: ting tonic, I put him through that same process. And

3173
03:05:25,280 --> 03:05:29,160
Speaker 12: I'm telling you, when people take that tonic, they say

3174
03:05:29,240 --> 03:05:31,520
Speaker 12: I do as soon as I took it, three to

3175
03:05:31,680 --> 03:05:35,920
Speaker 12: five minutes later. That energy because once that blood heat

3176
03:05:36,000 --> 03:05:39,000
Speaker 12: up once, once your body heat up that that that

3177
03:05:39,120 --> 03:05:42,840
Speaker 12: tonic and goes into your blood stream, then it's going

3178
03:05:42,920 --> 03:05:45,880
Speaker 12: to activate it all over again, bow and you're gonna

3179
03:05:45,879 --> 03:05:48,760
Speaker 12: have the energy. That's how I was able to extract

3180
03:05:48,800 --> 03:05:52,400
Speaker 12: that uh, that cancel from that lady bone marrows and

3181
03:05:52,440 --> 03:05:55,200
Speaker 12: out of her liver because these herbs went in and

3182
03:05:55,240 --> 03:05:59,840
Speaker 12: started being souper effected quickly, you know.

3183
03:05:59,680 --> 03:06:02,040
Speaker 1: That duel, because we're just about flat out of time.

3184
03:06:02,160 --> 03:06:04,959
Speaker 1: You have too minutes the top down. So before we

3185
03:06:05,080 --> 03:06:07,760
Speaker 1: let you go there, how can folks reach you? If

3186
03:06:07,840 --> 03:06:10,600
Speaker 1: you have a website email address over my website.

3187
03:06:10,720 --> 03:06:14,440
Speaker 12: My website is son up Save the La S O

3188
03:06:14,840 --> 03:06:21,160
Speaker 12: N O F S E B I LA dot com

3189
03:06:21,560 --> 03:06:24,880
Speaker 12: and you can reach me at three two three five

3190
03:06:25,000 --> 03:06:28,600
Speaker 12: three five eight nine seven two. But please text me

3191
03:06:28,879 --> 03:06:31,200
Speaker 12: because I get a lot of calls there so and

3192
03:06:31,240 --> 03:06:32,840
Speaker 12: it may take me a minute to go through each

3193
03:06:32,879 --> 03:06:34,879
Speaker 12: and every one of those texts, but I promise you

3194
03:06:35,120 --> 03:06:39,280
Speaker 12: I will answer that text three two three five three

3195
03:06:39,400 --> 03:06:42,600
Speaker 12: five eight nine seven two. I have to come back

3196
03:06:42,640 --> 03:06:44,320
Speaker 12: on your show again, Carl. Well have a little bit

3197
03:06:44,360 --> 03:06:47,080
Speaker 12: more time because I know you have questions and stuff like.

3198
03:06:47,080 --> 03:06:49,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could get to a bunch of folks. Thank you, Abdulla,

3199
03:06:49,600 --> 03:06:50,920
Speaker 1: and thank you for what you do, and thank you

3200
03:06:50,920 --> 03:06:52,720
Speaker 1: for continuing your dad's legacy as well.

3201
03:06:52,840 --> 03:06:53,400
Speaker 4: No problem.

3202
03:06:53,640 --> 03:06:54,840
Speaker 12: You know I love it and you were there in

3203
03:06:54,879 --> 03:06:57,280
Speaker 12: the beginning. You were the first radio station in LA

3204
03:06:57,360 --> 03:06:59,480
Speaker 12: that I had him on. So I thank you for

3205
03:06:59,520 --> 03:06:59,760
Speaker 12: that one.

3206
03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:02,080
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, folks, And that with that class

3207
03:07:02,160 --> 03:07:04,680
Speaker 1: is dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy. It

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Speaker 1: will see you tomorrow morning, right here in Baltimore on

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Speaker 1: ten ten WLB and in the DMV on fourteen fifty

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Speaker 1: WOL