1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: It's the Hammer of Nigel show. My name is Nigel. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: We'll go straight through the hotline. Bring on brightbart News 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: sports editor Dylan Gwynn, one of our favorites, one of 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: the best, so much I want to get to like 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: with the Olympics of the men's hockey and then the 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, we got the March Madness coming up, and 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: maybe pick your thoughts up nationally for the Colts. But 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the passing of legend Lou Holtz, the iconic college football coach. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: What does it mean to you? What is his lasting 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: legacy and what do you remember about coach? 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: Well, it is Greaty and all of you guys again 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: as always as a Notre Dame fan, a lifelong Notre 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Dame fan. Wow, you know personally my time to coach 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Holts in my age group. I'm forty nine years old too. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: My glory, my glory years are not the era Parsigian 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: years or anything certainly that preceded that. My glory years 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: of the Lou Holtz years. And this is you know 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: this last time the Notre Dame ember won a national 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: championship was under Lou Holtz. So I mean, I you know, 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: I have a very strong draw to him in terms 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: of that he certainly, you know, he was he was 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: the coach for the best years that I ever had 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: as an Irish fan. And you know, obviously times are 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: pretty good now too, and hopefully getting better. But up 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: until now, you know, Coach Holtz has been the one 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: that I've automatically linked to all that success that Notre 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: Dame had when I was growing up and what helped 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: make me a fan. But when you look at the 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: outpouring of comments and words and things that people are 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: writing and saying about Coach Holtz right now, it is 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: really impressive, and I think striking how little of it 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: has to do with football. You know, obviously he was 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: a great coach. Obviously he won Coach of the rwards. 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: He's in the College Football Hall of Fame, he won 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: a national championship, He's done all these incredible things with 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: his career. His overall coaching record was incredibly impressive. But 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: nobody's talking about that. What are they all talking about. 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 2: They're all talking about who he was as a man. 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: They're all talking about the advice that they gave him. 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: Mike Greenberg from ESPN had a great, great tribute to 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: Coach Holtz yesterday, he said, you know, he was hosting 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Sports Center on ESDN. Coach Holts was going to be there, right, 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: he was super excited to meet the coach and all that. 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: And they ended up talking and he told him about 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: his baby that was going to be born soon, his 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: first child, and Coach Holds put a finger in his 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: face and said, you listen to me, young man. The 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: best thing you can do for that kid is show 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: him every single day how much you love his mother. 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: And he just walked away. And that was it. And 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: that and that, you know, such a powerful message, really 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: really powerful message. And and and you know, Mike Greenberg, 53 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: somebody who obviously made a career out of sports, You 54 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: think he'd have some sports related stories to talk about 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: with Coach Holds. No, it was all personal. It was 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: all about, you know, this tremendous life advice that he 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: gave him. And and honestly, Greenberg's not alone. You look 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: at the other tributes out there from people in the media, 59 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: and I don't know, I don't know who can pull 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: this off nowadays because normally, you know, we live in 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 2: such a partisan environment, right, yes, you know, you've got 62 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: politicians politicians hate hate people, media hates people, people hate 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: the media, back and forth, vice versa. All this stuff, 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: but all of them together, politicians, media fans, athletes, everyone 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: is basically just sharing these personal anecdotes from from coach Holtz. 66 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: The times that he picked him up when they were down, 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: when they were about to give up, and he talked 68 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: about of it when they had just lost a job, 69 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: and then he, you know, put in a word for 70 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: them somewhere else, and they and they got they got 71 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: a leg up somewhere else, and and and so little 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: of it has to do with football, which is just 73 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: I think it speaks to the character of the man 74 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: and who he was as a person, and as great 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: as a football coach. I mean, look, he would deserve 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: living on in everybody's memory purely as a football coach. 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: But the fact that the outpouring of support and love 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: for him today is completely centered around who he was 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: as a person, I think it just speaks volumes about him. 80 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could hear. We interviewed him in twenty twenty, 81 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: about eight weeks after he lost his wife, and I 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: could just hear the paint his wife was the first 83 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: thing he mentioned during our interview, and then we went 84 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: on to talk about a coach. We'll speaking with Dylan 85 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: gwyn by the way, Bright Bart News sports editor, talking 86 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: about the passing of Lou Holtz, amazing iconic football coach, 87 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: college football coach. Then we talked about his relationship with 88 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and he had just won or it had 89 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: been awarded the Medal of Freedom honor from Donald Trump, 90 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: and that was an amazing moment in his life. 91 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: I think, oh, for sure, he wasn't. 92 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: And he wasn't afraid to speak his mind and vocalize 93 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: his support for the administration. 94 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: Either. No, he was not. He was not afraid at 95 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: all to say that, and he wasn't afraid to and 96 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: things having not even to do necessarily with politics, but 97 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: things having to do with religion. I mean, remember he's 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: the one who got up there and called Joe Biden 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: a Catholic in name only. You know, he was not shy, 100 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: and that's what you know, one consistent thread throughout all 101 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: the Lou Holts commentary, you know, is that he wasn't 102 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: shy about anything. I mean, he would he would tell 103 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: you exactly. You never had a guess where Lou Holtz 104 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: stood on an issue. I mean he would, he would, 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: he would be out there immediately and in person, and 106 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: everybody knew about it. And another thing that really just 107 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: kind of cracks me up. I saw this video today 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: and I had forgotten about this, but just how competitive 109 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: he was. There was a there was a skit they 110 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: were doing on ESPN where you know, he was debating 111 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: Mark May, who was his old broadcast partner, and they 112 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: had they had to pretend like they were in a courtroom, 113 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: right and there was another guy acting as a judge, 114 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: and they're having this very legal argument, like you know, 115 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: they're arguing sports, but it's all this you know, overruled, 116 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: I object and all and Coach Holtz screams it, puts 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: his hands up in the air and he's like, you're 118 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: out of order. He looks and I mean not sincerely. 119 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: You know, he wanted him to know that he was serious. 120 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: This was no longer a game to him than whatever 121 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: whenever they were debating, was no longer a game. He 122 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: called him out of order and stormed off the set. 123 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: I mean just what He's like, I'm done with this 124 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: and I'm never doing it again. Oh wow. So but 125 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: he had that, he had that Jordanesque quality where he 126 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: wanted to win every little thing like there was no 127 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: at every level competition. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no no 128 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: competition too small, you know for coach Holtz, Like if 129 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: he wasn't a competition, he was going to bring it 130 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: because he wanted to win it. And if he wasn't 131 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: winning it, or if he didn't like the way it 132 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: was going, you're going to find out about that too. 133 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: We're speaking with Bridbart News Sports editor Dylan Gwyn about 134 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: the passing and the legacy of coach Lou Holtz. Of course, 135 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: one Notre Dame of championship in eighty eight that happens 136 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: to be Dylan's favorite team was in the Heyday There, Hey, 137 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: real quick before we let you go, Dylan, we're about 138 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: a week removed from the Olympics, otherwise forgettable Olympics except 139 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: for the men's and the women's hockey team beating the Canadians. 140 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: Your thirty thousand foot perspective, as Breibart's News Sports about 141 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: what you saw at the Olympics this year one of the. 142 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: Greatest moments I've ever seen as a sports fan in 143 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: any sport. Hockey is not my favorite sport. I love it. 144 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: I do watch it a lot as much as I 145 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: can I would say it's probably third on my list, 146 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: which is probably higher than most Americans have it. But 147 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: you know what, despite that, everybody watched that game. The 148 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: ratings for it were through the roof, the viewership was 149 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: through the roof. It was record breaking, and it was 150 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: an incredible moment for this country because I really believe, 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: you know, Canada, you know is great. They're great, that's 152 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: a great hockey both the men's and the women's. The 153 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: fact that our guys and gals were able to go 154 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: up there and and just take care of business and 155 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: and and defeat them, you know, it's an I I 156 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: really it's it's it's it's our miracle on ice moment. 157 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: I think for this generation, I'm not putting it on 158 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: the level of the Miracle on Ice because that was 159 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: even more shocking than obviously what happened in this Winter Olympics. 160 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: But I think for this generation this is going to 161 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: go down as one of the moments that, like Mike 162 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: Mike Tarico said at the end of the broadcast, if 163 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: you have a dream in your heart, if you have 164 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: something you want to do, go out there and do it, 165 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: because anything is possible. And the men's and women's Olympic 166 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: hockey team proved that because they went out there with 167 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: a deck stacked against them in every single way. Canada 168 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: is super good, and they beat them at their own game. 169 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: That's Canada's number one game. It gets all of their 170 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: best athletes. Everything else is a distant second. It's the 171 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: complete opposite of what we have here in the US, 172 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: and yet we went out there and beat them, And 173 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: I think that's the real message. This country and everyone 174 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: in it can do anything that they set their minds to, 175 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: and that's certainly what I take from it. 176 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Dylan, what are you working on at brightbart dot. 177 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: Com right now? Well, we were obviously covering a lot 178 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: lot of what's going on with with with coach Holtz 179 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: and and things like that. But we're we're tuning up 180 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: for this World Cup. Now, you know the World Cup? Yes, yeah, 181 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: is a Ron gonna play? I mean, you know, this 182 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: is this is this is one of the big questions 183 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: is out there right now. There's obviously a very tense 184 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: international climate and here we are about six weeks away 185 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: from the start of the World Cup. I think that 186 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: adds a heightened sense of anticipation and intrigue uh to 187 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: the whole thing. We're talking about that, and we've got 188 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: an NFL offseason with some pretty big moves being made, 189 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: including the Colts quarterback game. Yeah, that's a transition. 190 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: Tag Alec Pierce is a free agent. That's a whole 191 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: separate discussion for another time. I wish we had time 192 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: for it. Dylan Gwynn, Breitbart Sports Editor, thank you. Have 193 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: a great day, you two guys to Hammer and Nigel Show.