1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: You were listening to the Best of the Fan morning 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: the Fan. 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: It's not enough that we bring you Kevin Bow and 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: James Boyd every day. It's not enough that we have 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: Caleb Zuver in here when Mark Dyton is happily sleeping 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: in after a Bears win somewhere in Florida. It's not 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: enough that we do all those things. Let you hear 9 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: Josh Downs a little while ago, but we're gonna have 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Alex Golden at eight thirty to talk about the Pacers 11 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: and what they have coming up this season, as it 12 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: was their first preseason game into year last night. And 13 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: then Zach Keifer's gonna stop by one of the one 14 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: of my favorite writers over at the Athletic Gonna be 15 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: here at nine o'clock. Saw him milling around James in 16 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: the press box at the football game on Sunday with 17 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: the Colts. 18 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I told him to stay away. Every time he comes, 19 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: weird things happen. So if you're. 20 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: Blaming him for the for the crazy. 21 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: Things, absolutely, then you all don't understand the backstory. I've 22 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 3: said this many times. When I joined the Colts beat, 23 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: he was my co beat writer. He told me, hey, James, 24 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: the team is pretty stable. Frank Reich is great. Nothing 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: really ever happens with this team is gonna be a nice, 26 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: smooth entry to the NFL. And then twenty twenty two happened, 27 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: and we all know that was a disaster. And I 28 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: told him, you're a liar, You're a fraud. You bamboozled me. 29 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: So no, I have beef with Zach Kiefer forever because 30 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: of this, But no, great guy. I'm glad that he 31 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: was at the game Sunday, the phenomenal I think piece 32 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: this morning they could post on the Athletic about Daniel 33 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: Jones and some of the backstory there, and really he 34 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 3: got a chance to talk to Jason Garrett, his former 35 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: be offensive coordinator with the Giants, and so check that out. 36 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: A lot of insight there. Zach's always all over that stuff. 37 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: But good to see him, and certainly he was saying 38 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: as much as I was, very weird, but good times 39 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: for these colts who are five and one. 40 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, we've been talking a lot about 41 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: who's been most viable player whatever. We're only six games in. 42 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: But the more I think about it, you talk about 43 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. He's just made everything work. He's made everything go. 44 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: Does he do crazy things like Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen, No, 45 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: but you know what, he's doing everything really well, Kevin, 46 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: and he's moving the chains. 47 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: James, did you come up cross any quarterback name in 48 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: your research yesterday that you think Colts fans would not 49 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: immediately tell you you're an idiot that player sucks. 50 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: I think the biggest one probably Taylor Heineke. I feel 51 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 3: like Colts fans have a healthy respect for him, especially 52 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: if you remember. 53 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 5: They at him, but now they would be with him exactly. 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: They remember the game that he actually won here in 55 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: Lucas Oil Stadium a couple of years ago. 56 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 4: But I think he's beating the Colts twice right Atlanta 57 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: in Atlanta, good point years ago in Washington. 58 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: So the game that you bring up again familiar with him. 59 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: I do think he could be like a spot starter 60 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: for you. Certainly don't want to get him the Keys 61 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: of the French Eyes by any means, but he's a 62 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: good player. He's someone that that I think that they can, 63 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: you know, sleep a little easier if he ends up 64 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: being your back up. 65 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 66 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 4: So the question for me comes down to this, are 67 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: you going to try and trade for a quarterback somewhere 68 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: around the league? That would you would think lead to 69 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 4: a little bit more of a Oh okay, I kind 70 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: of like that move like that, you know, would be 71 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 4: a little bit of a whatever higher Can I interest 72 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: you in Russell Wilson? Well, yeah, Jamis Winston. 73 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: Jamis is on a two year deal, so I don't 74 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: think that would really happened. But like, who would you 75 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: trade for? 76 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: Well, you know, again some of these guys that maybe 77 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: don't h immediately, like why would Kansas City. 78 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: Like I know they wouldn't give him up? 79 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 4: Like, you know, somebody asked me about Jimmy g in 80 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: the Text show. It was like, well, you know, Matthew 81 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: Stafford's back, Why are the Rams gonna do that? 82 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: So it's funny, like, you know, it's kind of hard 83 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: to get a good player for cheap. Well that is 84 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: that's basically what I was going through yesterday, like, oh, 85 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 3: this guy's pretty good. Wait, that would cost a little 86 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: bit more than what I'm willing to give up. 87 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: And I'll keep on coming back to this as well. 88 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: You know, when Michael Badsley was signed last week, it's 89 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: you know something that boiled down to what probably Colts connections, right. 90 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: I mean, Michael Badgley had kicked with Luke Rohods and 91 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: Rico bertso Sanchez. Michael Badgley had been with Shane Stikeen 92 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 4: for three years and the Chargers, so you know when 93 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: you say Taylor Heineke, there are some Colts connections a 94 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: little bit. First off, Shane stike and saw him opposite 95 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: in the NC East for a couple of years. I 96 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: do think that matters. I think Shane Syken watching film 97 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 4: of you in a rather intricate way for a couple 98 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: of years would matter. Also, you know he beat the 99 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: Colts twice, so Chris Ballard obviously seen that firsthand. Couple 100 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: other names just to throw out there, and again some 101 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 4: of these might make you puke, but Colts connections. A 102 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: guy that's been kind of a longer backup in Jacksonville 103 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: for a while with CJ. Bethard from Iowa. Jim Bob Cooter, 104 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: the Colts offensive coordinator, was in Jacksonville for a year. 105 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: Bethard currently is on the Lions practice squad, so you 106 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 4: would need to sign him off the practice squad to 107 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: your active roster, which is something we see happen. The 108 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: Colts did it a few weeks ago with a linebacker 109 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 4: from Dallas, Easton Stick. He is part of that North 110 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 4: Dakota State tree, if you will, of quarterbacks. He was 111 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: actually a draft pick of the Chargers when Shane Steichen 112 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 4: was with the Chargers. He's currently on Atlanta's practice squad. So, 113 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: you know, again, a couple names I don't know about 114 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 4: Desmond Ritter. You know, he did spend a few days here. 115 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 4: It was a mini camp tryout back in mid June. 116 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: You know, would that I don't want to pretend like 117 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: he got very deep into the Colts playbook when he 118 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: was here for a few days, But clearly the Colts 119 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: were curious about him in the summer. Would they be 120 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: you know, curious about him again here in mid October. 121 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: So those are just a few of the names that 122 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 4: connection wise, I think you throw out there. 123 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also people want to know, you know, with 124 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: trade deadline coming up, and we talked about it a 125 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: little bit yesterday, is there pass rush help out there? 126 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: And I know everybody wants to go swing big and 127 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: what's Max Crosby doing? But I don't know that a 128 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: they could afford Max Crosby or if he's even available, 129 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: and what that would even possibly take. But what are 130 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: some of the realistic options? Is there a Bradley Chubb 131 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: that might be a guy that's available that has shown 132 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: the ability to put pressure on quarterbacks and could be 133 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: had for less than certainly what a Max Crosby is, 134 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: or we're talking about just people that could help out 135 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: a little bit, James, is that even a possibility right now? 136 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: I think you certainly should entertain it. But yeah, as 137 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: far as Max Crosby, No, they're not going to trade 138 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: for Max Crosby. He just signed a huge extension. He 139 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: costs a lot of money, and he's also been like 140 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: loyal to a fault I would say to the Raiders, 141 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: who are god awful. So no, that does not seem 142 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: realistic at all, even in the slightest I guess the 143 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: name that and I'm not saying this is even a 144 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: real thought. But social media has ways of bringing up names, 145 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson being one of them, and him being on 146 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: a one year deal with the Bengals. The Bengals stink. 147 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: He's also aging, so would you make a move for him? 148 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: But the thought there is that you're doing that literally 149 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: just just cash in for this year, because then he 150 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: would become a free agent afterwards. I would not necessarily 151 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: want to trade for him and give him a bunch 152 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: of money because he's an older player. So yeah, that's 153 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: an idea as well. But yeah, I do think the 154 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: next couple weeks will kind of inform a lot when 155 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: it comes to what the Colts might do. Because if 156 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 3: you look up after the next two games and you're 157 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: seven and one, do you say, hey, this is our 158 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: shot to do something special this year, because then you 159 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: go from being a feel good story. So wait a second, 160 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: we're a pretty good team. And even if you're six 161 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: and two, you know, heading into your last game before 162 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: the bye week, you know, going overseas to face the Falcons, 163 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: who had a pretty good game yesterday. I think that 164 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: certainly is a conversation that garners more validity than I 165 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: think before. 166 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: It's honestly something where I could probably talk myself into 167 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: a trade at three different positions in the defense. I 168 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: could talk myself into pass rusher. Certainly, I could talk 169 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: myself into a linebacker upgrade and corner given the depth there. 170 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: So you know, three weeks from today is a trade deadline. 171 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: Do you do something right now? Do you sit back 172 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: and wait again? Are you investing in a draft quarterback 173 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: wise at all into trying to find a backup here? James, 174 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 4: you got this from Thomas. Thomas goes, what's wrong with 175 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: Riley Leonard? It's a four week backup job? Come on, 176 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: do you think do you view it in that light 177 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: like it's fine? You got Riley Leonard? He led Notre 178 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: Dame to the national title last year. Do you see 179 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: him in the preseason game against Cincinnati? 180 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: No, I'm not with that at all. A lot of 181 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: players look great in the preseason. I mean, to be honest. 182 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 3: Bringing back Jason Bean, I mean, Sam Ellinger is probably 183 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: a name we could throw out there as well, someone 184 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: who knows Shane and it has proven to be a 185 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: very professional quarterback in this league. But no, I do 186 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: not think that is a smart tactic, mainly because and 187 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: not to be like bogus, but when you get to 188 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: the NFL, I truly do not care who did in 189 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: college anymore. I mean, great, you led Notre Dame to 190 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 3: the national championship. Will Howard won the national championship. Neither 191 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: one of them are starting quarterbacks in the NFL, and 192 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: no one thought that when they left college. So yeah, 193 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 3: could he be a spot starter someday? Yes, I just 194 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: think that you're putting too much on the guy fresh 195 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: out of the gate. That to me is just not wise. 196 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: And it's funny because we did a story yesterday on 197 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: the IR injury update with Anthony Richardson and someone on 198 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 3: our editing staff must be a Notre Dame person or 199 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: most be a big, big ry Leonard fan, because they 200 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: put in like this random paragraph about he was like 201 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: preseason all ACC. And I went back and was like, 202 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: who cares? Cut that out? Like, yeah, we can mention 203 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: the National championship part that I think is significant, but 204 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: like preseason all ACC, good leader, whatever, can he play 205 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: football in the NFL. He's not proven to do that. 206 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: I don't think you should do, like just throw it 207 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: to him if you can find someone who's at least 208 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: done it relatively well or in a spot here or there, 209 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: I mean, has some experience in that department. 210 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: And I think the question becomes this, if you look 211 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: at the Colts schedule upcoming here the rest of the 212 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: way I was looking at it last night, I want 213 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: to say, of the eleven teams you have left, eight 214 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: are currently at five hundred or better. So eight of 215 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: the eleven right now are a five hundred football team. 216 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: More better, if you look at the three games you 217 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 4: would play to teams below five hundred, two of those 218 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: three are Houston, which I don't think we look at 219 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: Houston as like laughing stock bad. 220 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: Right, No, we probably think that they're gonna be at 221 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: least a nine to eight team before the season's over. 222 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: Well, and again, if CJ. 223 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: Shrout's healthy, like, it's still very competent, even if they 224 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: aren't necessarily their record wise, and who knows, maybe they're 225 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: now starting to find a little bit of their groove 226 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: they had to buy this past week. So the schedule 227 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: is undoubtedly getting tougher. And you know, do you view 228 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 4: it as Hey, if Daniel Jones were to be lost 229 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: for three to four weeks, does a quarterback move Let's 230 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 4: let's call it four weeks? If Riley Leonard's is gonna 231 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: go one and three? Does the backup quarterback the other guy? 232 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 4: Could that guy go too? 233 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 2: And two? 234 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: And is that the difference between winning the ANFC South 235 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: and not? Man, I know, we're kind of getting into 236 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 4: the weeds a little bit here. But I think that's 237 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: how you have to view it of is that player 238 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: going to is one game going to be the difference? 239 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: And when Jacksonville's sitting there one game behind you right 240 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: now in the division, you still have two more games 241 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 4: with them down the stretch. I think these are all 242 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 4: conversations that the Colts have to have inside of their 243 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: building today and we'll see how it exactly plays out. 244 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: One last one for you. Wes tech sin at two three, nine, 245 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: ten seventy on the fan text line says Sam hell 246 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: is Sam Howell is Philadelphia quarterback three? Maybe he's cheap? 247 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: Is that a guy you'd look at? 248 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: They always trade, so perhaps that is somebody to take about. 249 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: I think what Tamer m Key's all over there as well. 250 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, it just comes down how do you want 251 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: to pursue it. Do you want to be very cheap 252 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: and say, hey, just get me somebody that I don't 253 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: have to spend too much money on who's a free 254 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: agent or I could pick up off of a practice squad. 255 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: Or do I want to invest a little bit more 256 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: there to be a little more sure of myself in 257 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: case anything happens to Daniel Jones, which Lord have mercy. 258 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: Let's not even speak those words. 259 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and the people that are texting in and 260 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: talking about that, we really need to spend all this 261 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: time and energy thinking about a backup quarterback for a 262 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: team that's five and one, Yes, because what happens if 263 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: Daniel Zones even has to miss a half or a 264 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: game and a half or something like that. Every win 265 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: is going to count for a team that all of 266 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: a sudden has designs on doing something special this year. 267 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 4: Kevin, We'll see too if the Colts bring that player 268 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: right away onto the fifty three manters oster. The Richardson 269 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 4: news yesterday to IR they brought in a undrafted I 270 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: think corner safety from the sounds of it, Ruben Lowry 271 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: who played in Baltimore this year, undersized but super smart dude. 272 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 4: And we'll see exactly how he fits. So clearly they're 273 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 4: trying to churn even more corner They continue to work 274 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: out corners, They continue to work out veteran corners. But 275 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 4: that was the roster move yesterday. For those that did 276 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: see Richardson d aged reserve. The Colts filled it, but 277 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: not with the quarterback, with a kind of a corner safety, 278 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 4: so again that will play out today exactly what they 279 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: do at quarterback. They could just go practice squad and 280 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: you know, bump that guy up a couple of weeks 281 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: and then you know, kick the can down the road 282 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: for a bigger decision there. 283 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you say you undersize it. What is he like 284 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: five ninety two four or something? 285 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: But I want to see Tennessee Chattanooga comes to mind 286 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: of where he played collegiately, put up some big time numbers. 287 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 4: Uh mechanical engineering degree ro OTC. I mean, sounds like 288 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: a really smart individual, but undersized and was playing but 289 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 4: played a ton of snaps for Baltimore a few weeks ago. 290 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: Obviously Baltimore really banged up, so uh, any move at 291 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: corner safety right now, particularly corner right now, I don't 292 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: gloss over because they need corners. 293 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 5: So who knows if this guy could get up to 294 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 5: speed as quickly as Sunday. 295 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: Maybe you just hope you keep bringing people in. Somebody's 296 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: gonna stick and it's gonna work out. Because like we said, 297 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: loved Jacoby Brissette, but man, he looked awfully good against 298 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: the cult secondary this past week. And I don't know 299 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: how much that was just Jacoby on a day and 300 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: how much of it was just there needs to be 301 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: some work done in that secondary. 302 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: Jeff is saying, Jacoby, you should have just kept your 303 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: bags here. Okay, let's just make the tray for him 304 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 3: and everyone. Great. I'd be happy with Kobe is the 305 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: backup quarterback, I know, but again, like I said, then 306 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: it costs a lot of things, you know, to go 307 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: get him. So yeah, I think the options have to 308 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: be a little bit, you know, lower, The expectations had 309 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: to a little bit lower on who they bring in. 310 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So that's what's happening with the cults. 311 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: The Pacers played last night. Let's give you all the 312 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: details on everything else you need to know. We call 313 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: it the morning check, James. So the culture off today 314 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: and we'll just keep an eye on whether or not 315 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: they bring quarterbacks in or take a look at that 316 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: market today. 317 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that is certainly the big news after Anthony 318 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: Richardson went on IR yesterday due to an orbital fracture 319 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: he sustained due to a stretching injury he had in 320 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: the locker room before the game Sunday. And just to clarify, 321 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: it wasn't the band. He had the band attached to 322 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: something in the locker room and that something broke and 323 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: it recoiled to hit him in the face. And so 324 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: people who are like, ha ha, how did that happen? Like, man, 325 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: imagine someone just throwing a baseball full speed at your 326 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: face Like that is essentially how it happened. Very fluke thing, 327 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: very unfortunate for him. But just to clarify there for 328 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: people who are who thinks it is just like, you know, 329 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: this guy's made a class, Like no, man, you get 330 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: hitting the face that hard, anybody's face is gonna break. 331 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: We'll get more information on a bunch of things later 332 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: on this week, Kevin, how close were we to get 333 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: in Kenny Moore of the second back last week? 334 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: He was doing some field work when we were out there, James, 335 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: I think I was Friday. He was doing some lateral 336 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: field work. But still he is yet to practice and 337 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: it's now three straight weeks, nine practices. 338 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 5: Total, three games. 339 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: I would you know it is three days enough of practice? 340 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 4: Is this an injury that was more severe to where 341 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: you'd want multiple weeks? If you go just basically based 342 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: off of they didn't put him on injury reserve, then 343 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: Sunday he should be back. That would be his fourth 344 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: game that you know he would miss. So it's a 345 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: big one because you know, I think you're facing the 346 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: Chargers team that has some definite injury issues, but they 347 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: could be getting a little healthier at wide out and 348 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: we know what Justin Herbert can do, so obviously that'll 349 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: be a big one to watch this week. And by 350 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: all accounts, the Colts didn't have anybody get hurt in 351 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: the game. We'll see how that plays out tomorrow practice, 352 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: but it was before the game or pre game. Everybody's 353 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: going to start wearing bubble wrap and all their helmets 354 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: during all the pregame routines. 355 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: Now two games on Monday Night Football. Last night, Atlanta 356 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: Falcons beat the Buffalo Bills twenty four to fourteen. Bishn 357 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: Robinson ran wild one hundred and seventy yards and eighty 358 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: one yard touchdown scamper six catches sixty eight yards. Josh 359 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: Allen struggled a little bit, just one hundred and eighty 360 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns passing, but also two interceptions, and 361 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: they just couldn't get it going against the Falcons, who 362 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: have improved to three and two right now and after 363 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: the game, James Michael Pennix said, this team is legit. 364 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: Don't go to sleep on the Falcons quite yet. We 365 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,479 Speaker 2: start paying attention to them in the NFC South. 366 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: I feel like they're always right there. That division kind 367 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: of stanks year in and year out, so they always 368 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: have a chance to kind of be in the mix. 369 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: And so yeah, going from being losing thirty to nothing 370 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: to the Panthers to what they did last night certainly 371 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: feels the vibes feel a lot different in Atlanta right now. 372 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: Jake Mudy hit a thirty eight yard game winning field 373 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: goal as time expired and the Bears win in Washington 374 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: twenty five to twenty four. Mark Dyton happy doing his 375 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: happy dance somewhere. But a nice revenge game for the 376 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: Bears who gave up that crazy play in the loss 377 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: to the Commanders a year ago. Kevin, people remember that one. 378 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Mark Dyton, I guess I heard that he 379 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: got another week of vacation once that field goal went 380 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: in last night, So Caleb will need you for another 381 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: week here, Jeff. Jeff just signed off on five more 382 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: days from Mark Dyton to go to Disney World. 383 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: It's no problem with me. Yeah, you work here for 384 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: a long time. You just start racking. Apparently Mark has 385 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: two hundred and fourteen PTO days. I don't know. I 386 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: don't even know how that works. 387 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 5: Let's have the right last name with some people in 388 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 5: this building. 389 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: That's it, all right. The Indiana Pacers at home last 390 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: night at the field House. They lose to the Spurs 391 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: one twenty four to one oh eight, a meaningless preseason 392 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: game except for the fact that Benedict Matherin we already 393 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: know can score in bunches. James went off for twenty 394 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: seven in the first half, thirty one for the game. 395 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 2: They did lose. But that's man. If Benedict Matherin can 396 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: become instant scoring on a consistent basis, pretty interesting things 397 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: happening for the Basers. 398 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I would say that he's been proving himself as 399 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 3: a scorer since he got in the NBA. He can 400 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: score the best of them. It's just the other things 401 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: I know. Listening to the halftime show, Yeah. On Fantom 402 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 3: Sports Network, Rick Carlos talked a lot about how they 403 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: believe he's gonna have to draw some of the bigger 404 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 3: defensive assignments this year, especially on the wing, considering that 405 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 3: you don't want to put a lot of that on 406 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: Andrew Nemhard as a lead guard. So I'm curious to 407 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: see how Benedict embraces that part of his game because 408 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: he has the physical tools to do it. But yeah, 409 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: I think the bread and butter at the end of 410 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 3: the day will always be him scoring the basketball. Does 411 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: that in his sleep, and you know, if he scores 412 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: at that raid, he'll be looking at a nice extension 413 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: at some point, I would imagine. 414 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: You know, James, I saw that clip with Rick Carlisle 415 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 2: at half time last night too. I thought it was 416 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: very interesting in the middle of that when he was 417 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: talking about the defense that Maverin's gonna have to play. 418 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: He said early in games, which made me believe that 419 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: you give him a lot of that defensive work early 420 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: in the game, but when it comes crunch time, maybe 421 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, now you switch back to your 422 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: defense of lockdown with them heart something like that. 423 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll see certainly something to keep an eye on. 424 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, like you pointed out earlier in the show, 425 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 3: the Sinners were bad, and I'm looking at a stats 426 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: like the little what is it the play by play 427 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: tracker from the third quarter yesterday. Here is what Isaiah 428 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: Jackson did in the matter of three seconds, personal foul, 429 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 3: personal foul, personal foul. Pacers called time. 430 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: Out the four centers, uh is Say Jackson, Jay Huff, 431 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: Tony Bradley, James Wiseman collective last night, No, none. 432 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 3: Of that's good Man had three fouls, none of literally 433 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: three seconds. 434 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 4: Like that'sugh thirty seven preseason minutes for Isaiah Jackson, nine fouls, 435 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 4: and I don't think Jay Huffs would much better in 436 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: terms of defending without fouling. 437 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: So I knew they were taking a step back without 438 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 3: Miles and this is just kind of, you know, reafforsting 439 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: that a little bit early. It's early for them as well, 440 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: but like they should. 441 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: Rai Smith's behind the bench last night, I thought anything 442 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: anything left in the tank? 443 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the six minutes, six minutes, he ain't even 444 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: got that. 445 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: I'll just take defending without falling asking for a hook shot. 446 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: Pacers will finish up their preseason schedule Friday night in 447 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: San Antonio, and then they get ready to once again 448 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: play the Oklahoma City Thunder, who they just played like 449 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: every other game, now, don't they there you go, Yeah, 450 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: all right, So Major League Baseball last night, the American League, 451 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: National League Championship Series both took place Game two of 452 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: the ALCS. The Mariners got the hitting clubs at club 453 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: the Toronto Blue Jays ten to three. Julio Rodriguez Jorge 454 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: Polanco each had three run home runs, Josh Naylor hit 455 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: a two run shot and they get the win there 456 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: to take a two games to none of the Brewers 457 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 2: two to one, and Blake Snell eight innings, no runs, 458 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: one hit, no walks, ten strikeouts. I think that's pretty 459 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: good right there. James, especially in that spot not bad. 460 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: A lot of pressure in those spots and he showed up. 461 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and later on tonight, Game two of the National 462 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: League Championship Series starts at eight oh eight. The ALCS 463 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: is off as they traveled back to Seattle to Mariners 464 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: with the two games to none lead. High school rankings 465 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: are out this week from the USA today. Not much 466 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: change amongst the top teams and six A. It's still 467 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 2: Brownsburg number one, New Palace number one in five A, 468 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: Bishops Chichard number one in four A. Top ranked teams 469 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: in three A, two A and one A are Evansville Memorial, 470 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: Adam Central, and Springs Valley, respectively. So anything else you 471 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: guys want to throw in. I know there was a 472 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: firing yesterday James in the National. 473 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 5: Football Larry Birds, Springs Valley. 474 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 3: I would not know, honestly shout out, but as far 475 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: as the firing goes, yeah, Bryan Callahan is out for 476 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: the Titans and Kevin. I'm not surprised by the move 477 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 3: at all. Honestly, when you lose. 478 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 5: Why the hell. 479 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: They're regretting that. It felt like a power struggle at 480 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: the top, like thunder joke. 481 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: They are, and they're setting themselves up to be in 482 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: this position again in a couple of years. I don't 483 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: know how can Ward develops now, We'll see, but I 484 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: think maybe the destraw that broke to Campbell's back. And 485 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm not in Tennessee, but here in Callahan's comments last 486 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: week about you know, hey, everyone's got to get better. 487 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: We want to see some progress, and he'd like pointed 488 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: out cam Ward and was like he needs to get 489 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: better news, I'm like, man, you don't want to start 490 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: coming at your first round pick, your number one pick. 491 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you're the guy who supposed to be developing him. 492 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 3: So now he's out of a job. 493 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 4: And by all accounts, Bran Callahan was pretty deep as 494 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: a finalist here in Indy, which you know, is kind 495 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: of crazy to see how obviously all that's played out. 496 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: Purdue number one in the preseason poll for college basketball. 497 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 4: First place votes go to Matt Painters bunch Houston second 498 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 4: with sixteen first place votes, Florida eight, Yukon two. There's 499 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: your top four there. Matt Painters already said, feels like 500 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 4: the depth, that's what's a little different about this Purdue 501 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 4: team and why he feels like this is indeed the 502 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 4: best national title contending team he has had of they 503 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 4: could withstand something that you know, maybe prior years they 504 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 4: had a little bit of a smaller margin for air 505 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: other Big Ten teams in Michigan seven, UCLA Twelvellis seventeen, 506 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: Michigan State twenty two, the Badgers at twenty four. Indiana 507 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: got oon vote, and if you add all that up, 508 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: that would be the forty third place team in the nation, 509 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: the Hoosiers with Darren Devrees. 510 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: I'm still not used to. I know it's been a 511 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: while now, I'm still not used to UCLA, USC Oregon 512 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: in the Big Ten. I'm just not there yet. 513 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm used to Rutgers being the 514 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 5: big time. 515 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 2: It's been it's been a nice You're right, I'm still 516 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: not used to the Chargers being in La. 517 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: Bouz saying it's been a while for both of those things. 518 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 2: Guy Uh, Kevin and Ires slow to come around on 519 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: some things, James, That's all it is. 520 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: Get what the Times. 521 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: The Times will feature Alex Golden, who setting the pace 522 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: as one of the leading podcasters when it comes to 523 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers and kind enough to join us with 524 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: his unique perspective. Coming up in a moment here. We'll 525 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: also have the Pacers playback for you, debuting is we 526 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: continue on on a Tuesday morning. It's ninety three five 527 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: and one oh seven. Pacers have two seconds to get 528 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: a shot. 529 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 6: And Matherin concludes a brilliant first half with a three 530 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 6: from out near the left hash mark. 531 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: He made every shut in this head. Believe it the 532 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: way for the Pacers With thirty one points Time for 533 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: our Pacers playback after every game, presented by C and 534 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: J Water, the official water treatment partner of the Indiana 535 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: Pacers cnjwater dot com. James, he was terrific last night, 536 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: thirty one points in all slowed down in the second half, 537 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: didn't play a ton there, but he could not miss 538 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: in the first quarter of last night's basketball game. 539 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: Hey is what he does, man bucket getter, special guar. 540 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, and so we'll keep an eye on 541 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 2: him as the preseason rolls on. The Spurs did win 542 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: one twenty four to one oh eight. And here to 543 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 2: tell us more about that, one of our favorite guests 544 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: joining us on the Payless Lickers Hotline. That, of course 545 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: would be the one the only Alex Golden. Good morning, Alex. 546 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: How was your preseason extravaganza last night? 547 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: It was a little bit more entertaining than I would say. 548 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: It's still it against the thunder or I should say 549 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: the okase he Blue since they didn't bring ten of 550 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: their guys. 551 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 7: But yeah, it was. 552 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: It was good to see some of the starters play 553 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: more more minutes and we saw one Viniyama eve been 554 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: playing in the fourth quarter, so a little bit more 555 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: of a competitive game to kind of get a better 556 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: evaluation of what this team looks like. 557 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 5: Alex, what the hell do you do at center? 558 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 4: It's been fouling and fouling and fouling and not scoring 559 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: or rebounding much. 560 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: It's not been good. 561 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 7: Kevin I'll tell you that. 562 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: And I think Facer fans, while they are not happy 563 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: that Miles Turner left for Milwaukee and feel like things 564 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: could be better without him, I think they might be 565 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: wishing Miles Turner was still in this cross. I mean, 566 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: you got to give a little bit of you know, 567 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: context here with just Wiseman and Jackson coming back from injuries. 568 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: Jay Huff really has not been a part of this 569 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: system at all, and when he played with the starters 570 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: last night, ran into Siakam at one point, just didn't 571 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: really know what to do. Him and Mathurn we're having 572 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: conversations be. 573 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 7: Where he's supposed to be at. 574 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: So I think it's all just a learning curve. It's 575 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: still really early, so don't want to write them off 576 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: completely yet, but I think this is a big year 577 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: for the Pacers to see if they have anything at 578 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: center with this. I would first three games, a player 579 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: that's probably looked the most consistent is the guy that's 580 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: probably gonna get cut, and that's Tony Bradley. So I 581 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: just I have not been impressed, and the fouling has 582 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: been an issue for me, and just the floor space 583 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: and that they're used to with Turner, they don't have 584 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: that anymore, Jay huff O four from three in the 585 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: preseason so far. So yeah, it's it's not been great, 586 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: But I think they just have to give it some time, 587 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: give us some chemistry, maybe something to play out. Right now, 588 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: I am not overly impressed. 589 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 4: If they played a real game tomorrow. By the way, 590 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: Alex Golden setting the pace a great listen for Pacers 591 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 4: fans out there his podcast, He's with us here on 592 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: the Paylostickers top line. If they played a real game tomorrow, 593 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 4: would their best lineup be Obie Topping at the five? 594 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: Kind of small ball like we saw a little bit 595 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. 596 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean they did that a little bit 597 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: last night too. The Spurs were playing some zone and 598 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: they went to Obi top and at the five, and 599 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: the Pacers I think were like a plus two and 600 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: like three and a half minutes of that group together. 601 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: So we might get to some point in the season 602 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: where it's just like, you know what, start Obi Topping. 603 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if they're really trying to win games and 604 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: things like that, it's going to make a huge difference. 605 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: But one thing to me that really plays a huge 606 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: factor in just the centers and how they will all 607 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: be utilized. Is not having TJ McConnell right now. TJ 608 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: McConnell does so much for that center position with his 609 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: ability to get into the paint and push pace. So 610 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: I think as you have a new point guarding camera, 611 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: pign trying to learn things a little bit, it is 612 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: kind of like stagnating the offense and what they're trying 613 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: to do. So yeah, I just think not having McConnell 614 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: is going to be a huge impact for a lot 615 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: of what this team does. But overall, I just yeah, 616 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: they they. I think Obi Topping is clearly the best 617 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: you know, starting center at this point on the roster. 618 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: Alex, what has been your impression of Jaris Walker so 619 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: far throughout the preseason? And I know kind of up 620 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: and down last nine to five turnover is not great. 621 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: But if we're looking at steps you want to see 622 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 3: the Pacers take out imagine a big part of that. 623 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I think we've seen more good stuff 624 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: from Jariffs and bad stuff throughout the preseason. I wasn't 625 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: overly impressed with his first game against Minnesota, thought he 626 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: had a nice shooting game against Minnesota, and then if 627 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: you look at his performance against OKC. I thought that 628 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: was probably one of his better ones, almost out a 629 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: triple double in that game, and then last night he 630 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: had a really really strong third quarter, and then in 631 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter they threw him out there with a 632 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: random group and had him playing some point guard at 633 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: one point. 634 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 7: So for me when it comes. 635 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: To jars Walker, I just want to see him play 636 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: with a consistent level of course and not take plays off. 637 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: We've seen some bad passes, we've seen some not getting 638 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: back on defense and things like that. But if he 639 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: can just play the right way, play good defense, fit 640 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: into the system, take the open shots when they're there, 641 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be great. He had a move on 642 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: Saturday against OKC that looked very Pascal Siakam esque in 643 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: the second quarter. And if he can do more things 644 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: like that, quick decisions when he gets to basketball, like 645 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the basket, I'm gonna score 646 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: versus let me wait and think about this for a second. 647 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: I think that's going to help him as well. 648 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: Alex, Just before you came on, we were talking about 649 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: some things that Rick Carlisle said during the halftime of 650 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: last night's broadcast regarding Benedict Matherin and what his role 651 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: might be and what the guard position is going to 652 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: look like without Tyrese Hollim Burton, and the fact that 653 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: that maybe Mathern takes on a few more defensive responsibilities, 654 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 2: certainly at the beginning of a game, and in addition 655 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: to some of the scoring. What his role looks like 656 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: coming into this season. 657 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna be They're gonna need a lot of 658 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: Matherin and a lot of good Materron for this team 659 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: to have any success because Matherin obviously at the two 660 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: guard right now, you're so thin that Kayl and Peter, 661 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: a guy on a two way contracts your backup. So 662 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: they just really need him to step up and do 663 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more. We know he can do a 664 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: lot of stuff offensive. I don't think that's ever gonna 665 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: be a problem for him, But defensively, I think that 666 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: they're getting him some reps. If you look at the 667 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: first game against Minnesota, he was guarding Anthony Edwards. Is 668 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: the second game against the Thunder, he was guarding Case 669 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: and Wallace. So they're having him guard some of the 670 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: better guards out there just to try and see what 671 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: he can do. And I think he's a better on 672 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: ball defender than he is an off ball defender, because 673 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: he gets lost a little bit playing off ball, but 674 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: on ball he's a little bit more locked in and engaged. 675 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: He just has to learn how to navigate those screens 676 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: and fright through that. But I think he's gotten better 677 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: and then offensively, one thing that maybe doesn't stick out 678 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: in terms of like stats or anything like that, but 679 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: one thing I've noticed is his passing has looked better. 680 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: One of the first plays against the Thunder on Saturday, 681 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: he threw a great bounce pass lead passed to Isaiah 682 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: Jackson as the ball was swinging around and Jimmy boot 683 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: six teams aboff the bench starts clapping because it was 684 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: a great pass, and so they want to see him 685 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: do more of that. We know he can score the 686 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: basketball last night eleven to twelve for thirty one points, 687 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: like unbelievable twenty three minutes of play, So we know 688 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: he can do that. But just those quick reads and 689 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: then playing better defense, I think that's gonna be his role, 690 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna play probably close to thirty 691 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: thirty two minutes tonight. 692 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: Alex Is Pascal Siakam like Steph Curry now because he's 693 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: just knocking down threes that are extremely high rate. Shot 694 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: it at thirty eight percent last year, career high. But 695 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: what do you say from him to, you know, take 696 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: the reins more offensively. Now it's Tyry Saliburton is not 697 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: going to play this year. 698 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just got to see more of a heavy 699 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: dose of Fiakam than we've seen in the last two seasons. 700 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: I feel like last year a lot of times we 701 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: would see in the regular season Pascal have a really 702 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: strong half in the first or second half, but it 703 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: was never like the entirety of the game. And I 704 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: think we have to do the Pacers have to do 705 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: about getting him more involved throughout the entirety of the 706 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: game where they can really just force feed him to basketball. 707 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean not overly do it, right, They still gonna 708 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: play it in their system. But like you said, he's 709 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: shot the ball incredibly well since coming here. He's really 710 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: worked on a shot and I feel like he's gonna 711 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: make it more than he's gonna miss it when. 712 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 7: He pulls it. 713 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: And then just his ability to use that footwork. There 714 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: was a great play last night early in the game 715 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: when he had Victorimaniyama on him, and seven foot five freak, 716 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: and you know he uses his footwork to create enough 717 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: space and get a jump over him. That's how special 718 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: of a talent Pascal Siakami is. So he's gonna have 719 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: to take the reins. And I mean he might need 720 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: to score close to twenty five points a night for 721 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: this team to really consider themselves the playoffs team. 722 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: Alex, after he made that shot a fotog, make sure 723 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: you send that to me right away immediately, because I mean, 724 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: you see all the other weird plays that happened throughout 725 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: that game, like how about the putback from Wimby in 726 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: the paint on Jay Huff where he barely what what 727 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: are we doing? Well, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. 728 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: He walked by me three times last night back by 729 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: the media area, and I literally was just shocked. I 730 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: couldn't I couldn't believe what I was seeing. And I 731 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: actually tried to take a picture of him as I 732 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: was like walking into the media room. We were coming 733 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: up the elevators, he was coming down the hallway. I 734 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: tried to take a picture of him and be sneaky 735 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: about it. He caught me and smiled at me. So 736 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty embarrassing. But it's just like, this guy is 737 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: such a freak. It's crazy, like that boot back duck, 738 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: like you're mentioning. 739 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 7: I don't even think he jumped, so he didn't. 740 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: He's like playing on a little tyke's basketball goal and 741 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: everybody else's. 742 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is you and your son, this is this 743 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: You're showing him how to do things, and I'm like, 744 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: this is a grown man out here just sunning the Pacers. 745 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: So I still have my Whimby the Indie shirts somewhere 746 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: in the basement. Uh, you know, I'm still still pushing 747 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: for that. You know, in an alternate reality, I think that. 748 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: Would have been a second favorite team to go to. 749 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he likes the Pacers, so it was I 750 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: think the Pacers were one lottery ball away from getting 751 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: the number one overall picking. 752 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 7: That year's draft. 753 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: So just a little bit more heartbreak for me. But yeah, 754 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle, I thought he was just hilarious talking about him. 755 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: Said you just watching disbelief. 756 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 7: That's the scouting report. 757 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: And he said, I'm glad he's in the West. 758 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: Man oh Man twice a year is all. But they 759 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: will see him Friday night in their final preseason game. 760 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: That'll be in San Antonio. Alex, thanks for spending time 761 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: with us this morning. As always, we appreciate you. 762 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime, guys, thank you so much. 763 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: You can listen to Alex on setting the pace where 764 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: you can find that anywhere you can get podcasts, certainly 765 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: on Spotify as where I usually go to get it 766 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: as well. That's a look at the Pacers losing last 767 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: night one twenty four to one O eight to the 768 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs. Again. Benedict Matherin had thirty one points, 769 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: Andrew Nembard was eleven points, eight assists and a big 770 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: zero for the four setters, Jackson Huff, Bradley Wiseman. Oh, 771 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: freaking and a lot of fouls too, especially when PACER's 772 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: playback presented by CNJ Water, the official water treatment partner 773 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: of the Indiana Pacers cnjwater dot Com. All right, let's 774 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: check the gay guest line right now, the Payless Liquors 775 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: hot line, and Zach Keifer from the Athletic is standing 776 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: by it. Talk to us and Zach, good morning, Thanks 777 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: for being here on a Tuesday. Always good to hear 778 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: from you. We were just talking about this as you 779 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: came on. Is it possible we've seen the last of 780 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson with the Indianapolis Colts. 781 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 6: I think that's a totally fair question, Jeff. I hadn't 782 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 6: really thought about that, and it's really unfortunate that this 783 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 6: is the incident that sort of spurs that question. First off, 784 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 6: I hope he I hope he's okay. This sounds like 785 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 6: a really strange, weird accident that happened in the locker 786 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 6: room before the game. But I do feel like this 787 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 6: team is starting to realize that their quarterback is Daniel Jones, 788 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 6: and maybe everything falls apart at the end of the season, 789 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 6: but it certainly seems like Daniel Jones is going to 790 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 6: be the quarterback beyond twenty twenty five. 791 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 3: So I do want to say, Zach, thanks joining the show, 792 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: and thanks for ruining my life like you always seem 793 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: to do when you come around. Things got a little 794 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: weird there for us in pregame, but I do know 795 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: that you were stopping by not only for the game, 796 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 3: but more or so to get a little more insight 797 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: on Daniel Jones how he's wired. You basically told him 798 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 3: after the game he has no life, and he kind 799 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,959 Speaker 3: of grinned at you. But reading through your story. This morning, 800 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: you had a chance to catch up with Jason Garrett, 801 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 3: who gave us a lot of you know, sort of 802 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 3: I think insight that I hadn't heard of publicly. So 803 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 3: can you give us I guess not to give away 804 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: your story, but give us a couple of cliff notes 805 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 3: there on what you learned from Jason Garrett about Daniel 806 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 3: Jones and why that's helped him here Indianapolis. 807 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 7: Yeah. 808 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 6: So you guys are not going to believe this, but 809 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 6: when you're trying to find something interesting about Daniel Jones. 810 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 7: It's really freaked hard. 811 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I put this in the lead of the story, 812 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 6: but I asked like two or three of the vets 813 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 6: on the team, like, can you tell me something interesting 814 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 6: about this dude? And I got a lot of blank scares. 815 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 7: And that's not to say. 816 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 6: That Daniel Georges is super, super boring, but even he 817 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 6: said in his press conference, like I don't do a 818 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 6: whole lot besides this stuff, and this stuff would be 819 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 6: right now running the best offense in the league, the 820 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 6: highest scoring offense in football. 821 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 7: But pivot to Jason Garrett. Yeah, like I learned a 822 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 7: little bit from him. I don't know if he was the. 823 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 6: Right fit in New York. And I know that Eli 824 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 6: was his predecessor. And Eli was the guy who never 825 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 6: gave any good quotes and was super stoic and was unflappable, right, 826 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 6: and he won the two Super Bowls, one of which 827 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 6: he won right down the street at Lucas so Oil. 828 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 6: But with Daniel Jones, you know, I got the story 829 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 6: of him like taking the ferry across the Hudson River 830 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 6: and then renning an e bike to ride into New 831 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 6: York City when he would go to dinner with people, 832 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 6: and it just seems like the most opposite thing you 833 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 6: would think of the New York Giants quarterback. And I 834 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 6: just don't know if his personality meshed with New York 835 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 6: as well as some others would maybe Jackson Dark who 836 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 6: seems to be really embracing the spotlight there, and they 837 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 6: seem to be have something going there in terms of 838 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 6: a spark. But honestly, like in talking to Daniel Jones 839 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 6: and the talking to Jason Garrett and talking to people 840 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 6: in New York, it just feels like. 841 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 7: Indiana is more his speed. And there's nothing wrong with that. 842 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 7: It's my speed too. 843 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 4: Can Zach Keeper from the athletic who with the sea 844 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 4: on the Payloss Slickers sideline. The latest Daniel Jones might 845 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 4: be the most vanilla QB in the NFL and a 846 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 4: perfect fit for the Colts. 847 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: More chocolate. 848 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 4: It's a great read up on the well Halloween right now? 849 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 4: You know what's his favorite Halloween candy? 850 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 5: We could go there? 851 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 2: Cookies are brownies? 852 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: Right? 853 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 7: Yeah? 854 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 3: Which one? 855 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: Zach Verry broke signetti at him, Zach Keefer, do you 856 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 4: have a favorite cookies or brownies? 857 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 7: Cookie? 858 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 5: Zach? 859 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 2: You're invited Saturday afternoon and watch some football. We'll call 860 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: it good. 861 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 4: There's the reason why Zach looks away he does and 862 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 4: runs as fast as he does. You know he's not 863 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 4: enough brownies out there, uh, Zach. It almost seems like 864 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 4: when you say perfect fit for the Colts, I immediately 865 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: go to Shane Psychin and just how he's wired. He 866 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 4: is psychotic from a preparation standpoint, I would argue, and 867 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 4: I think Daniel Jones meets him at that level. 868 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 5: So yes, you know, living in. 869 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 4: More of a quaint city and whatever part of town 870 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 4: and all of that, and the speed of Indie I 871 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 4: would agree with. It also seems like the marriage from 872 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 4: a head coach, play caller fits exactly what he was 873 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 4: looking for as well. 874 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 6: You know what, I went back to KB, you're dead 875 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 6: on and this this really hit me on Sunday as 876 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 6: I was listening to Spike and talk about the preparation 877 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 6: they do, and then Daniel Jones talk about it when 878 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 6: we have Shane Steiken back in twenty twenty three, what 879 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 6: he wanted in the quarterback because we knew they were 880 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 6: gonna draft one. The first thing he said was obsession. 881 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 7: I want a quarterback who's obsessed. 882 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 6: And that hit me more and more as we got 883 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 6: through the Anthony Richardson era, which TDD at this point, 884 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 6: but it feels like Jones is that guy. I mean, 885 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 6: he's calling out plays from the Panthers Week two game 886 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 6: the night before they played the Cardinals on Sunday to say, hey, 887 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 6: let's watch this clip from a month ago because we 888 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 6: might see this look and it just seems like that's 889 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 6: more of Shane Stikeen's style. Why, because that's who Stikeen was. 890 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 6: I mean, Stikeen was the teenager in high school who 891 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 6: would skip out on the parties to sneak into the 892 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 6: stadium to throw to his receivers. I mean he wants 893 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 6: an obsessive guy. Why did he have so much success 894 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 6: in Philly because Jalen Hurts is like that. He's all business, 895 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 6: he's all football, and he's locked in. And it just 896 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 6: feels like Staken may have finally found the perfect fit 897 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 6: for him in Indianapolis. He had some success with Gardner Minshew, 898 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 6: But it just feels like, like you mentioned, obsessive psychotic. 899 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 7: I mean, that's Psiching, right. He is all ball. 900 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,479 Speaker 6: Everyone I talked to in the league has the same 901 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 6: description of the same psychic. He's all ball, there's nothing else. 902 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 6: And it just feels like Daniel Jones is the perfect 903 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 6: quarterback for that. And I don't want to omit the 904 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 6: fact that he's got maybe the best young tight end 905 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 6: in football. He's got a running back, he's playing like 906 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 6: an MVP. The line is balling out, and the receivers 907 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 6: have been really good. Reggie Wayne deserves a lot of credit. 908 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 6: Josh downs with a tremendous touchdown, Alec Pierce that back 909 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 6: sort of turning away from him, fingertip grabbing the red zone. 910 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 6: I mean, like that unit, it's to some of the parts. 911 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 6: It's certainly not Daniel Jones carrying this thing. But I 912 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 6: think Shane Stikeen's that good that he can get the 913 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 6: most out of a quarterback like Daniel Jones and have 914 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 6: the highest scoring offense in the league. 915 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 3: Zach, when you were there in person, perhaps what impressed 916 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 3: you the most about the way the Colts offenses operate, 917 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 3: especially against an Arizona defense coming into that game that 918 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 3: ranked fourth in the league in points alout. 919 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I go back to this, I go back 920 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 6: to the best offenses make it easy on themselves, Right. 921 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 7: So I travel around lot, I watch a lot. 922 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 6: Of these offenses in training camp and then in the season, 923 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 6: and you get a feel for how easy they're making 924 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 6: it on themselves. Are they putting themselves in third and 925 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 6: nine and they putting themselves in third and two? You know, 926 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 6: the Colts are averaging the most first downs per drive 927 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 6: of any offense in football. This is the polar opposite 928 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 6: of last year. This is the polar opposite. And I 929 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 6: don't mean to pile on Anthony Richardson because everybody wasn't blame, 930 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 6: but look, they made it so difficult on themselves last year. 931 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 6: They couldn't make the layoffs, they couldn't complete easy passes 932 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 6: over the middle, and they couldn't do the things that 933 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 6: sustain drives. The Colts had the shortest time up possession 934 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 6: per drive last year. 935 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 7: You guys know why. You watched all the games, right, 936 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 7: three and out. 937 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 6: Three and out, three and out, third and eleven, third 938 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 6: and twelve, third and nine, and they just didn't have 939 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 6: a quarterback who was accurate enough to complete those passes. 940 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 6: Jones is certainly more accurate than Richardson, but he also 941 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 6: is getting them in better situations. I'm pretty sure the 942 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 6: touchdown to Taylor was a check. So it's just those 943 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 6: little things that add up that make it easier on 944 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 6: your offense. And to your question, James Arizontal, it was 945 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 6: a difficult defense. They were tough, and it looked like 946 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 6: the Colts are having some trouble getting the ball consistently 947 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 6: down there, but they just kept finding a way. They 948 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 6: have a lot of answers and the quarterback has a 949 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 6: lot of answers, and I think you put that together, 950 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 6: it's really fun to watch them really click, because this 951 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 6: offense has not clicked like this since I mean, I'm 952 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 6: not even gonna say twenty twenty one, because the quarterbacks 953 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 6: faded down the stretch and nobody wants to talk about that, 954 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 6: but it's a little bit like the Philip Rivers offense 955 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty, which I have a soft spot for 956 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 6: because it was so fricking fun to watch him throw 957 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 6: that throw that offense out there and just throw with anticipation. 958 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 7: And so this office is for real. 959 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 6: They have a lot of answers, they have a lot 960 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 6: of balance, and Shae Stiken really deserves a lot of 961 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 6: credit for what he's doing with this group. 962 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 4: Zach, I want to take it in a different direction 963 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 4: here before we let you go, and again appreciate your 964 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 4: time here on this Tuesday morning. I said it to 965 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 4: you in the press box on Sunday. You need to 966 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 4: write the Kurt Signetti feature. I know some people have 967 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 4: attempted it, but no one's a future writer like you. 968 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 4: It's your alma mater. Someone's got to write that story 969 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 4: because it's one of the best coaching jobs pro college. 970 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 5: You need to do it. Sorry to put work on 971 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 5: your plate, man. 972 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 6: I don't think I'd have a shred of objectivity if 973 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 6: I did that story, because I'm having as much fun 974 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 6: with AYU football I think as anybody. 975 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 7: And I was arguing with my friends the other day 976 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 7: and I'll throw this to you, guys. 977 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 6: Is it the best hire that they've made since Bob Knight, 978 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 6: since Jerry Yegley. I mean, it's it's hard to argue 979 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 6: with that. You just don't see this in college football, 980 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 6: what he's done in such a short amount of time. 981 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 6: But I think it's up there with one of the 982 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 6: best hires in that school's athletic history. 983 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 4: Zach and my four years there, which I think overlapped 984 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 4: a little bit with you. They won three Big Ten 985 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 4: football games in four years. They gave up eighty three 986 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 4: points in a football game to Wisconsin, Like, go there. 987 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 4: Those are my football memories. 988 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's my football memories. Are people not leaving the 989 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 6: tailgates because there was no point, sure, that's what it was. 990 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 6: That's what it was, Or leaving the game after the 991 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 6: first and second quarter because that's what it was. 992 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 7: And he's completely changed it. 993 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 6: He's cocky, he's arrogant, and I'm here for every minute 994 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 6: of it. 995 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 2: You know, he's down of business when he puts those 996 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 2: hands on the hips and he's got that look on 997 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: his face like something bad's about that into the other team. 998 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: I like that he's got a side. 999 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 6: We were watching him during the Illinois game, we went 1000 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 6: down and had some pretty good seats, and I mean 1001 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 6: the game was a little tight early in the first 1002 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 6: early James early in the game. 1003 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 3: But if you went to the bathroom and came back, 1004 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 3: they were down thirty. But you're saying he. 1005 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 6: Was He was away from the coaches most of the 1006 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 6: game with his hands on his hips, just glaring at 1007 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 6: the field. And then you watch the game and they 1008 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 6: are just punishing them upfront, I mean absolutely destroying the 1009 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 6: alignis offensive line and Signetti doesn't even act like he's face, 1010 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 6: doesn't even act like you've seen anything happening out there. 1011 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 7: It was amazing. 1012 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 6: I mean it was We're talking about one of the 1013 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 6: greatest beatdowns I've ever seen him from. 1014 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, right enough, get him off the airwaves, 1015 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 3: all right, Zach? That was facts. No, I agree, man. 1016 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 3: After seeing that is why I picked them against Oregon. 1017 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, you beat a team like that by fifty 1018 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 3: who for the following Illino WHI came back and beat 1019 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 3: usc They're not some scrub team. They just did I 1020 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 3: use on a different level this. 1021 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 7: Year, What a different world we live in. The Colts are. 1022 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 6: Rolling the Indiana Who's just football team is rolling. It 1023 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 6: feels like it feels like we're st money right now 1024 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 6: or something. 1025 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 3: Hey, this is a good living, so Zach will let 1026 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 3: you get out of here. Man, thanks for stopping by 1027 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 3: the game. I'm sure I'll see you around. But uh yeah, 1028 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 3: get started on that signetty piece. We're not asking for 1029 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 3: objectivity anyway. Just be objectively fun in the piece. 1030 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 7: How about that sounds good? Thanks guys, I'll be listening, Zach. 1031 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: All I know is I have several family members that 1032 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 2: occasionally make a batch of cookies for me. You're invited 1033 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: next time. 1034 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 7: Man, you're the man I'm in. I mean, I stay 1035 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 7: away from those brownies though, I'm in. 1036 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, all right, sounds good. Zach Keith for the 1037 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: athletic joining us here on the Payless Liquors Hotline.