1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this Rod Bray Mike braunfeud is just 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: getting better by the second. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: So all for Legislative Caucus leaders. They're meeting at the 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Chamber of Commerce's annual Legislative Session preview tomorrow ORG Day, 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: so they're determining what the priority is going to be. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: They say that medicaid is going to dominate the twenty 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: sixth sessions. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: Okay, real quick, I just want to. 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Set this up for everybody before we get into this, 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: because the pro tim of the Senate, like our governor, 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: is just coming off so bad in this. Like what's 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: the old saying. You got to know when to hold 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: them and wind to fold them, and know. 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: When to walk away and when to run. 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: Like it's over right. 16 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: I believe it was the Kenny Rogers well, but I 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: also believe it was the poet and philosopher Marshall Mathers 18 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: who once said about Moby, you're too old. 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: Let go, it's over that's true. 20 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: Like Braun does not seem to understand who's in charge 21 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: of this situation here, and it's hilarious. This couldn't happen 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: to a nicer guy. But so tomorrow is what they 23 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: call organization and that is essentially the official beginning of 24 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: the upcoming legislative session. Now, in the most government thing ever, 25 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: they start the session and then they don't work for 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: a month two months. Basically, they don't come back till 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: the first of the year. But org Day is sort 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: of the day where everybody comes together. They kind of 29 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: the leadership lays out, here's the things we're going to 30 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: try to address, our big ticket items. New people, if 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: they do exist, they get acclimated to the building. 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: It's generally a very. 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's to the media whatever, the people in 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: the state House, it's kind of a big deal. But 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: the public at large, they have no idea what's going on. However, 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: and this lunch thing you're talking about today is sort 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: of with the chambers where they kind. 38 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: Of give a preview to what they're going to talk 39 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: about at Orgay. 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: However, now with this rift over redistricting and Rod Bray 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: that the leader of the Senate saying the votes are 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: not here, We're not coming back December first. We'll see 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: you guys. Now he said what the first of January. 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: Rod Bray says that he still expects the Senate to 45 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: begin work on January fifth, for his announcement on redistricting. 46 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: Okay from Friday, after. 47 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: Stall all the huffing and see this is what it dies. 48 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Rod Bray came out and said this thirteen minutes ago. Nope, 49 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: we're meeting on January fifth. 50 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: All right, So for all the huffing and puffing, what 51 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: we've been telling you now for months, the DC DRAINO, 52 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: all those online people, they don't care at all. You're 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: just wasting your time. We found this out the hard way. 54 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: We had tens of thousands of people actually live in 55 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: this state begging these guys to do something, and they'd 56 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: made up their mind what they were gonna do, and 57 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: they did it right. So we were trying to tell 58 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: you from our misery, learn from it that, especially when 59 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: it's some guy who lives in Florida or wherever these 60 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, internet influencers are, this is a complete waste 61 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: of your time barking at these guys on redistricting. They're 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: gonna do what they want to do, and clearly they're 63 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: not hearing from enough people in their districts that want it, 64 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: and so they're gonna go forward with the what the 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: leadership wants. So that is Bray his way of sticking 66 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: both of his middle fingers right in the face of 67 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: the d C Draino's of the world and saying, hope 68 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: you had fun wasting your weekend screaming at us. 69 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: We're not coming back in December. 70 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Bray said seventeen minutes ago. Nope, Senate expects 71 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: to begin work on January fifth. Now, thirteen minutes ago, 72 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: Governor Braun tweeted out saying he just had a great 73 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: call with President Trump. 74 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: The way, so this is as we laid out to 75 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: you last hour. Trump called him all sorts of stuff 76 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: in that tweet, he being Braun and now Braun's response is, 77 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: thank you, sir. May I have another Yes. 78 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: I'll clean up my room. I promise, yes, Dad, I 79 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: took the trash out. You have to a fishwasher. I'll 80 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: clean up my room now. So Braun said he had 81 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: a great call with President Trump. I told him I 82 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: remain committed to standing with him on the critical issues 83 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: of passing fair maps in Indiana to ensure the Mega 84 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: Agenda is success in Congress. I'm still with you, drew Up, 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm still with you. Indiana state legislators must show up 86 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: for work and take a public vote for fair maps 87 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: to count of the jerrymanderin in California and Illinois. But 88 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: the Indiana State Senate is hiding behind closed doors. Oh 89 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: and refusing to even bring redistricting to a vote. 90 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 4: Who fight, Yeah, fight. 91 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: Hoosiers deserve to know where their legislators stand and expect 92 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: them to show up for work, not walk out and 93 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: hide in the dark. 94 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: Boy, he's a real billy badass on this one. 95 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: Isn't it When Trump tells him to be one. 96 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, when it came to what he is doing, this 97 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: is and this is Braun is so well, look bronze 98 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: and bronze, out of touch, delusional old man. But and 99 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: and by the way, let me say this publicly because 100 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: I said it on social media. 101 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: How after this Mike Braun's. 102 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: Chief of staff, Josh Kelly still has a job is 103 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: beyond me. They totally blew it on property taxes the 104 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: session this pastor was a disaster. His administration is a 105 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: dumpster fire. You got the Jennifer Ruth Green stuff, all 106 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: this other stuff going on, and now this and Josh 107 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: Kelly is the guy who has been you know, has 108 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: been basically the maestro. He is the chief of stat 109 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: right and how he is still employed is beyond me. 110 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: But that tells you a lot about Braun that he's 111 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: allowing that guy to stay in this in this leadership position. 112 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: But the this is if if Braun. 113 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: This is literally what Braun is doing right now with 114 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: redistricting is what we were begging him to do with 115 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: property taxes. 116 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: Right except he's willing to fight for Donald Trump. He's 117 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: not willing to fight for you, taxpayer. 118 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: And what Josh and Braun and the rest of the 119 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: good Time Fun gang and the Braun administration don't realize 120 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: is this is why people hate you. 121 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: Guys, because you won't fight for us. 122 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: You're coming off you and these lawmakers like Liz Brown, 123 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: that you are total frauds, your total phonies when it 124 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: comes to helping the party or helping yourself. Liz Brown 125 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: is a state senator from Fort Wayne who now has 126 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: a primary and has suddenly found the strength of nine 127 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: conservatives and liberty minded people plus two despite spending years 128 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: being a complete establishment hack. And she's all in on 129 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: redistricting and what she called what cowards people who. 130 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: Won't show up to vote, cowards of America. Well, she 131 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: took the old crossroads of America state sign and crossed 132 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: out crossroads and cowards. So she's insulting who's your. 133 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is a person that was a total 134 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: institutional establishment hack and now because she has a viable 135 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: primary challenge, that she's in fear for her job, that 136 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: she's suddenly become madam power pants, madam tough guy over here. 137 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: And so but the point is, as it relates to 138 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: the governor and Josh Kelly and whoever else is advising 139 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: him this, people see this, and whether they're for redistricting. 140 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: Or they're not, Look, the bottom line is this is 141 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: totally an act. 142 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: Of subserviency to Donald Trump, and it's your doing this 143 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: because Trump wants you to do this, and. 144 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: People see this. 145 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: Look, there's gonna be hardcore Trump supporters who are all 146 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: in on this and think you're great, But it's not 147 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: where the public is. Clearly, poll after poll after poll 148 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: after pole shows this to you, and the public town 149 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: halls show this to you, and people look at this 150 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: and go, I can't afford to live in my home, 151 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: or I'm fearful that within a few years I won't 152 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: be able to afford to live in my home. And 153 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: you told me to kick rocks when it came to 154 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: standing up to these people and you'll fight on this, 155 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: You're just making it worse. 156 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: We have to talk about this part. Governor Brown says 157 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: the Indiana State Senate is hiding behind closed doors and 158 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: refusing to even bring redistricting to a vote. Hoosiers deserve 159 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: to know where their legislators stand and expect them to 160 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: show up for work, not walk out and hide in 161 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: the dark. Because you had somebody like Jacob Stewart, friend 162 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: of the show from Indie Starr, who said they need 163 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: to go show up and I need to go on 164 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: record and say where they're stand. But then you have 165 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: to consider that Bray is saying, Hey, we don't have 166 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: the votes. Why would we cost taxpayers money to show 167 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: up and do something that I know is going to 168 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: fail anyway. 169 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, in a weird way, he is trying to save 170 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: Braun from himself. 171 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: Correct. 172 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: But what's fascinating to me, and we like Jacob and look, 173 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: people disagree all the time that are friends. The legislature 174 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: kills legislation all the time. 175 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: So some stuff doesn't even make it out of committee. 176 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: Right, or that doesn't even get to committee that the 177 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: public would be for or supportive of because they don't 178 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: want it. This is an exercise. And Jacob knows this. 179 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's spent years working in the in 180 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: the Senate. This is no different than what they do 181 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: on stuff all the time. And by that standard, why 182 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: why did they go beyond closed doors and gut Senate 183 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: Bill one? Then the property tax bill? Why didn't we 184 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: get an up or down vote on Braun? Why wasn't 185 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: Braun demanding that? Why wasn't Braun using this tough language 186 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: then saying the public demands an up or down vote 187 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: on my proposal a property tax reform. 188 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: He didn't do any of that. 189 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: He went to these goofy, pointless fireside chats that didn't 190 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: motivate or move anybody, Like, I get what Jacob's saying, 191 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: and that would be interesting to know. 192 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: But this is this is standard operating procedure for these guys. 193 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: So there's gonna be some sort of protest tomorrow, which 194 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: will be fascinating to see. Right, Like, there's a some 195 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: rally at eleven day, not. 196 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 2: Only in a protest, they're calling it a rally or 197 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: a round table. 198 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, at eleven am tomorrow at the status. Now, when 199 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: we got off the air. I'm gonna go over there 200 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: because I want to see how many people will, to 201 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: my face, come up to me and go Having two 202 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: more Jennifer Ruth Green's or Jefferson Shreeves in Congress will 203 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: change my life for the better. I want somebody to 204 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: come up and say that to me. If this thing 205 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: is still going on, I'm gonna go over there after 206 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: we get off the air, because I want somebody, without laughing, 207 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: to say that to my face. 208 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: Is it inside or outside of the State House? They 209 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: don't say. 210 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 211 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just says eleven am Rally State House Rotunda. 212 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: Oh inside, I guess yeah. And they encourage everybody to 213 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: wear red. 214 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: You have so they'll be mistaken for the angry red 215 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: shirt teachers. Yeah sure, Oh my gosh, I love all 216 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: of this that Bron deserves. Everybody. 217 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: They're gonna do that on ORG Day tomorrow. 218 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: Well, that's why they're doing it, right. They're all gonna 219 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: be there. But it's over. Like it's done. They've already 220 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: made their choice, the same way they screwed us on 221 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: property taxes. 222 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: It's over. 223 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: But for some reason, Bron will fight on this, but 224 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: he would not fight on property taxes. And that's the takeaway. 225 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: If one thing, it'd be one thing if Broun said 226 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: came in and came out and said, hey, look. 227 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: I tried, it didn't work. 228 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: I've already set the bar of I'm totally subservient to 229 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: the General Assembly, as they did on the signature issue 230 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five session. 231 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: No, he said he just had a great call with 232 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: President Trump and told him that he remains committed to 233 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: standing with him on critical issues of passing fair maps, 234 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: which they just did allegedly, yeah, few years ago. 235 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: This is great. 236 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: This is just everything I just can't just couldn't happen 237 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: to better, nicer people and good. I hope Bron keeps 238 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: it up. I hope he keeps it well. He doesn't 239 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: know how to run a Twitter account, or he's not 240 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: typing those press releases, but who is ever doing it? 241 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: You're doing it as horrible as you possibly could. It 242 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: is fabulous for our show. Please keep it up. 243 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 244 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: One of my guys, Jacy is shooting fire and making sense. 245 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: And I told you we've got to address this because 246 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: I think he is spot on. 247 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about the keyboardist from Styx. 248 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the guy who wrote and sang most 249 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: of these songs for Styx when Styx was a real band. Yes, 250 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Dennisty Young, Babe, Lady, Best of Times, Come Sail Away. 251 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: Not quite all of the Styx hits were Dennisty Young, 252 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: but the vast majority of the songs people associate with 253 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: the band. He was the writer and the lead vocalist, 254 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: and as you said, third, a distant third, he was 255 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: also the keyboard player. Sure, yeah, Billy Joel was also 256 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: the piano player for Billy Joel, Right, yes, thank you. 257 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: Anyway, So they had a. 258 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Tumultuous breakup, and then those guys sticks the band Sticks, 259 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: Tommy Shaw, James Young and then Dennis Young went their 260 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: separate ways. They still to this day can't stand each other. 261 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: I was telling you I got down that I was 262 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: reading this article we're going talk about here in a second, 263 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: but down the YouTube rabbit hole last night, which is 264 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: a dangerous place to be. Now, they replaced Young with 265 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: a guy named Lawrence Gowan who sounds exactly like the 266 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: Young like I mean, I mean, they like clearly they 267 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: got a guy who there and he plays the keys 268 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: and they were trying to you know, Ringham at the 269 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: wheel right, and it's this Lawrence Gowon dude, James James 270 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: Young and Tommy Shaw are doing an interview with Dan 271 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Rather and they're talking about the breakup with Sticks. And 272 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: I had not seen this interview before, and I knew 273 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: it was tumultuous. But they hate Dnnisty Young. I mean, 274 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: they weren't sugar coating. And this has been twenty years 275 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: or more now than these way long more than that 276 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: not it's been close to thirty years. These guys have 277 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: been broke up. I think this interview was, you know, 278 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: maybe seven to ten years ago. I mean, they hate 279 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: this guy. So all of that being said, Dennisty Young 280 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: still writes, tours, performs on his own. He does the 281 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: music of Sticks, and he is in the news now. 282 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: A whole bunch of websites, People Magazine, New York Posts, 283 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: all many major websites have posted this that Dennis D. 284 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: Young just went off on the Rock and Roll Hall 285 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: of Fame and it's fabulous. 286 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: What he said. He's so right. 287 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was blasting the Hall of Fame for inducting 288 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: artists too late. After many were ill or deceased because 289 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: you're waiting too long. 290 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: Well, the big one was this year Bad Company went 291 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: in and just a string of hits in the seventies 292 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: and eighties, and Paul Rogers is the legendary frontman, or 293 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: was the legendary frontman for Bad Company. He was free 294 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: of several other groups. He was so great that when 295 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Queen finally decided to get back together, Paul Rodgers for 296 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: about five years, you know, nobody could be Freddie Mercury, 297 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: but he was the guy that they picked to lead Queen. 298 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: And Paul Rodgers suffered I believe a series of strokes, 299 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: maybe ten years ago. He is mobile, he's alive, he 300 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: does videos, he talks, he's very he appears very frail. 301 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: He was once this very fit, energetic guy, but he 302 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: could no longer he could no longer perform, so to 303 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: the point when Bad Company finally went in the Rock 304 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame, he was incapable of being 305 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: there as a part of the ceremony of the live performance, 306 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: et cetera. 307 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: And de Young's making the case. 308 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: He goes, wait a second, Bad Company's been around for 309 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: fifty years. There's nothing they've done. The past twenty years 310 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: that would warrant them. Oh, man, I can't believe they 311 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: did this that got them in. Why did you wait 312 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: so long? And why are we putting some of these 313 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: these rappers and R and B people, Why are they 314 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: getting in? And these great rock groups like Sticks are 315 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? 316 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: Right, And he went on to say, you know, change 317 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: the name, you've lost your mission. He mentioned artists like 318 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: Joe Cocker and Warren Zevon as examples of musicians that 319 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: were inducted in decades after their prime. He said that 320 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's mission statement on 321 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: eligibility was a ruse and a joke used to justify 322 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: their personal biases. Well, part of me says, is he 323 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: a little bitter about this because his band isn't in it? 324 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: And is he looking at the Rock and Roll Hall 325 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: of Fame to get Shaw and DeYoung back together in 326 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: the same room. 327 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: Well, well, here's the thing. I don't think Sticks would 328 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: allow him to perform. Like I was pondering this last night, 329 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: I was watching these videos. I don't think because the 330 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: way I understand it is that Dennis de Young has 331 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: the rights to use the thing saying the music of 332 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Sticks and then Sticks the band exists separate from him now, 333 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: so they could just totally cut him out right, and 334 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: they may very well do that. I think it's a thing. 335 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: You know, we always joke You and I were talking 336 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: about this last night. We always joke about me and 337 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: the Sagamore or the Wall Bash, and it's a great 338 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: bit for our show, and it's very funny. 339 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: And the same thing with the High School of Fame. 340 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I'm under no delusion that any governor is 341 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: ever going to go We love loved Rob Kendall to 342 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: the point where here's the Sagamore or the Wall Bash. 343 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: Right, you get that award or you get into the 344 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: Brownsburg Hall of Fame. Is it really going to change 345 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: anything in your life? Is it going to make anything better? 346 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: But they've deluded. The point is they've deluded with the Sagamore. 347 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: They've given it to so many just people who Sagamore 348 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: or the Wall Bash used to be our state's highest award, 349 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: given to people who give distinguished service. I have a 350 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: very dear friend who spent forty years working in the 351 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: Department of Corrections. He was a legendary local high school 352 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: soccer coach, build a soccer program up, and that's a 353 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: certain person that would get this award. Look, you've given 354 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: decades of your life to helping the community and helping 355 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana. And it used to be those 356 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: are the people that would get the awarded. Now just 357 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: like politicians and donors, and they just hand them out 358 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: like candy. It doesn't mean anything anymore. They've diluted the thing. 359 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: And the same thing's. 360 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: True with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You 361 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: get in, so what right? 362 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: Well, So that leads me to the question, why does 363 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 2: Dennisty Jung need the museum to validate his worth. He's saying, 364 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: you're waiting too long. My band should be in. Why 365 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: does he care? 366 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: Well, sometimes you if you're their craft, I think yeah, 367 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: I think it's something enough if you've given your life 368 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: to something and you see something that once upon a 369 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: time had real meaning and there was a real honor. Look, 370 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame is becoming this too. There's 371 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: all these guys who are pretty good players, but they 372 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: certainly weren't Hall of Fame worthy. Who are in now 373 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: that they let in in? These veterans committees et cetera. 374 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: And when you say because, I don't think any person 375 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: would dispute. In the late seventies and early eighties, Styx 376 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: was arguably maybe the most famous rock band on the 377 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: Planet's certainly one of them, along with the Foreigner and Journey, 378 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: And I mean, they're all kind of in that soup together. 379 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: And you say we were the upper echelon, we were 380 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: the tippy top. We were the best, and that should 381 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: be recognized, that should be and there should be a 382 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: queue Hall of Fame for the best of the best. 383 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: And you're letting all of these other people in, and 384 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: then these people who really deserve it aren't in. I 385 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: think if I were him, I would be pissed off 386 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: about that. I would be upset about that. 387 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: So the inductees this past year included Bad Company, Chubby Chucker, 388 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: Cyndy Lauper, Joe Cocker, Outcast, Outcast, sound Guard, Hey yeah 389 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: in the White stripes, Hey yeah, got in before? 390 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: Say yeah, I got in before. 391 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: Sticks I ever tell you that when I was in 392 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: seventh grade, James gave me a forty five five of Styx. 393 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: James in the lunch room. 394 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: Oh your boyfriend? Was that your boyfriend? 395 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: He was? He liked me. Oh, he gave me a 396 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: forty five. 397 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: Of whate oh babe. 398 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: But then when you listen to the lyrics of that 399 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: Babe I'm leaving. 400 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: Well, really, it's a song sure for his wife about 401 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: how lonely it is to be out on the road 402 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: without her. 403 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: I think James in the seventh grade was on the road. 404 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh sorry, And now there's James calling you. 405 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: Now he heard his name. 406 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: He's calling you. 407 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very upset, as he should be. And by 408 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: the way, we got to get to a break. But 409 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: just remind everybody that if the guy who wrote and 410 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: sang most of the songs is not in the band, 411 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: it is not that bad. 412 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: It's Kenderlly Casey, It's ninety three, WIBC. 413 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 5: The old Man Rock among his dreams, Prisoner of the Ford. 414 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 5: The lady says at the end of the tunnel. 415 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: Oh fascinating how people with six figures are filling the. 416 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: Pinch of inflation. 417 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: Yes, everyone is, but before that, some people are often 418 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: fascinates Kennlly Casey, Show and Rob that's Casey about the 419 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: insider Baseball Kevin I got on a little back and 420 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: forth about John Fogerty during the during the break and 421 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: we were talking about I don't know how we got 422 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: on this, but I. 423 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 5: Was telling you about how I saw CCR a few 424 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 5: years ago at the State Fair and how they're not 425 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 5: really CCR because John Fogerty that's right. 426 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, the guy is not there. Yeah, he's gone. 427 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: And I would say John Fogerty is fascinating because he 428 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: was this. 429 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: You know. 430 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: Obviously CCR was this massive juggernaut in the early seventies 431 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and then he I mean he didn't quit quit, but 432 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: he basically sort of disappeared and then re emerged with 433 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: that center Field album in the mid eighties, and he 434 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: ended up big part of all that was he ended 435 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: up in court with this. I think it was his 436 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: old record company. They sued him because he was sounding 437 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: too much like him so as I recall, and then 438 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: he had to like play guitar and the witness stands 439 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: of a judge. Yeah, the judges basically like, well that's 440 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: the way you sound, dude. 441 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, go home. 442 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: And we were talking about how great that Centerfield album was, 443 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: and there's a song on that album. Centerfield was obviously 444 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: the hit, and then Old Man down the Road and 445 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Girls, but there's a song called I 446 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 1: Saw It on TV in which he John Fogerty is 447 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: what he's eighty years old now or something that he was, 448 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, coming of age in the nineteen fifties and sixties. 449 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: And the song is all about all the great stuff 450 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: that was on TV when he was growing up and how. 451 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: It shaped his his worldview and mind. 452 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: And it's a look back in the nineteen eighties at 453 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: all these great things that were on TV. And I 454 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: told Kevin, I said, you have to listen to that song, 455 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: and so he came in with a little I Saw 456 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: it on TV as the music. 457 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, John Fogerty watching TV when they used to sign off, 458 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: that's play the national anthem and go off the air. 459 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah. You know. 460 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: When I own my radio station in North Carolina, know 461 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: it was an a It started as an AM daytimer. 462 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: Because I'm an incredible businessman, I got it. I got 463 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: an FM translator to go along with it. But as 464 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: it as a daytimer radio station, I to power down, 465 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: power on, and ABE had to sign on and sign 466 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: off every day. 467 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: That was a big deal. To sign on. I was like, 468 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 3: what decade are we living in? 469 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: To take those meter readings to make sure you weren't 470 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: transmitting and higher power than what you were. 471 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: A lot of it was a bygone era. Hardly this 472 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: industry isn't doing better than what it's doing. 473 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's automated now, Kevin. You don't have to 474 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: take readings, do you No? Yeah? 475 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean by the time. 476 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: So when we first bought the radio station, because I 477 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: ultimately got a transmitter that could do all that stuff, 478 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: but we still had the one with the tubes. Yeah, 479 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: Like you would turn the thing on in the morning 480 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: and it would literally go wah, and it. 481 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: Looked like you were taking the barometric pressure reading it. 482 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: It's like something's gonna. 483 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: Blow up in uh. 484 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: Anyway, So there was a news nation had an article 485 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: and I think this stems out of a whole from Harris. 486 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a Harris poll survey. 487 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: Saying how saying like how pinched people earning six figures 488 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: are feeling? 489 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they said nearly one third of six figure earners 490 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: describe themselves as financially distressed, and about two thirds of 491 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: high earners do not consider themselves wealthy even though they 492 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: make over one hundred thousand dollars annually. 493 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: My mom and I were having this conversation the other 494 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: day about the idea of a six figure earner, And 495 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: what is interesting is the number is largely relevant to 496 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: when you were earning, because in this article they said 497 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: six six figures, one hundred thousand dollars is equivalent twenty 498 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: years ago, you'd have been making one hundred and seventy 499 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: You would have to make one hundred seventy five thousand 500 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: dollars today to have made a hundred thousand is the 501 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: equivalent of one hundred thousand dollars twenty years ago. Yes, 502 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I butchered that beyond belief. Let me 503 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: try that again, one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars today. 504 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: If you've made one hundred and. 505 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: Seventy five thousand dollars today, your buying power is the 506 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: equivalent of making one hundred thousand dollars twenty years ago. 507 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct. That was an economist from Coomerica Bank 508 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: who said that. 509 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: So while one hundred thousand dollars may sound like a 510 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: lot of money, it is simply not anymore. 511 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: Well, inflation's obviously eroding your purchasing power. They said that 512 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 2: many of these six figure earners report being in survival mode. 513 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 514 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: And they're relying on credit cards for everyday expenses. That's 515 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 2: the case. You're just not budgeting properly. Yeah, you're spending 516 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: on unnecessary items. 517 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, like a household with a two 518 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars income is not rich by any stretch 519 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: of the imagination. But you also should not be in 520 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: survival mode. If you've got a household income or of 521 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars or an individual making one hundred 522 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you should be able to live a I'm 523 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: not saying even upper middle class, but a somewhat comfortable 524 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: middle class existence if you have any sort of financial 525 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: literacy or restraint whatsoever. 526 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: Well, some point, it sounds like some of these people 527 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: got themselves into a mortgage which was out of their reach. 528 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: Now, well, I think that's I think that's. 529 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: The big part, right, is people. 530 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: People have not adjusted their buying, their spending, their financial 531 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: habits with the reality that has faced them of the 532 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: necessities climbing. 533 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: And cost That's true. 534 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a time where you could get 535 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: away with, hey, I'm maybe a little higher on my 536 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: car than I should be, about a little nicer car 537 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: that I probably shouldn't that's going to pinch me a 538 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: little bit. 539 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: Or maybe the same thing could. 540 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: Be said true with your house, but you could get 541 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: around that because food and living in general wasn't unaffordable. 542 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: Of high earners say that they are one expected bill 543 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: away from financial chaos. 544 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 3: That's that. 545 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: Are you supposed to have three months of an emergency fund? 546 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: Three months salary in savings equivalent into an emergency fund? 547 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: That's that's on the person I get, And look, everybody 548 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: is feeling the pinch of inflation, and it's ridiculous and 549 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: you shouldn't. But if you're earning one hundred thousand dollars 550 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: a year, or you're in a household with a two 551 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars income, you you should be able to 552 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: live several months, numerous months if you lost a job 553 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: and one bill while it might sting, and it might 554 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: put a dent in your like you know your your 555 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: your refrigerator goes out, it's I experience, or you're you 556 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: know you need a car repair or any new breaks 557 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: like me like now, look, you bought that jeep. We 558 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: warned you, We told you the jeep that was your 559 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: own doing we told you know, it's twenty eighteen. 560 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: We've been around for a few years now, new breaks. 561 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: But didn't you just put a good jillion dollars into 562 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: that car? 563 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? I did. 564 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: And they didn't fix the brakes. 565 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: Well they weren't. 566 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: It wasn't part of the deal. 567 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: The paths weren't worn down back then. Yeah. 568 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: You ah, Now you got to take some level of 569 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: accountability in all of this. That maybe it's you if 570 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: you're earning six figures and you're in that big of 571 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: a financial strain. 572 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: There's also a big geographic difference. I mean, a six 573 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 2: figure salary in New York City's not going to go 574 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: as far well, you're right somewhere in the Midwest. 575 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your poverty level. If you're earning one hundred 576 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: thousand inside of New York City itself, that's. 577 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: Nothing, right, So you have to take that into consideration 578 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: when you're looking at this pole. I know, I was 579 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: recently having a conversation with my daughter. She was trying 580 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: to determine what to get her roommate for her birthday, 581 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: and she threw out a few suggestions, and I said, 582 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: you know, things are kind of expensive right now. You 583 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: really should consider something that she can use. It may 584 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: not be the funnest thing to get her, but a 585 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 2: gas card, yeah, needs a lot. Yeah, or maybe food. 586 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: It's not quite it's fun, but it'll get used. 587 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: That's right. 588 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have little life lessons. 589 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: And she said, thanks sir, I'm going to ignore that 590 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: in the order it's received. 591 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: No, she said, yeah, you're right, that's a good idea. 592 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: Oh good, she listens to you sometimes. Hammer's going to 593 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: join us next. It's ninety three WIBC. 594 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: Jason Hammer, one half of the Hammer and Nigel Show, 595 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: joins us. 596 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: Now Hammer, Hello, it's not. 597 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 4: Quite Festivus yet. 598 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 599 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 4: But to quote George Costanza's father, I got a lot 600 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: of problems with you people. Now you're going to hear 601 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: about it. 602 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: Great. 603 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: So I am one of the few, at least on 604 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 4: your program here that was all right with the idea 605 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 4: of redistricting. Was it the greatest thing since sliced bread? 606 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 5: No? 607 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 4: Was my life going to change substantially? 608 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: No? 609 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: And to your credit, Rob, I wish we saw this 610 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 4: level of gusto when it came to property taxes. All 611 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: of that's true. But I live in Marion County, Okay. 612 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 4: I'm an Indianapolis guy. My rep at a national level 613 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 4: is Andre Carson. So if I get the opportunity to 614 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: fire that clown, and I get what you're saying, you're 615 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 4: just gonna get replaced by a Jefferson Shreve. You're probably 616 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: right because that guy, much like Flounder, he's a real zero. 617 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: But I feel like you have to at least try 618 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 4: because I've seen the Andre Carson movie and it sucks. 619 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: It's horrible. So if given the opportunity to replace Andre 620 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 4: Carson or that dor Cup North Frank Mervan, I'm okay 621 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: with it. It's not the end of the world for me. 622 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: Like it's not a hill that I'm willing to die on, 623 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: per se. But I'll be all right if Andre Carson 624 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 4: got bounced out and asked for you, Casey. So you 625 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 4: opened up the show to that being real smug about this. 626 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 4: Like we were talking, you guys were talking about Senate 627 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: Pro Temp Rod Bray, and you were kind of laughing 628 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: at how some people might call him a Ryan. I'm 629 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 4: some people, right, and you seem very smug about that. 630 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 4: Oh that's how it came off. Sorry, because let me 631 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 4: go down a laundry list of reasons why people like 632 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: myself had a problem with that. And number one, this 633 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: is the same dude who screwed you on your property 634 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: tax bill. So it's not Braun, it's not beck With. 635 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: They had a hand in it. But this is the guy, right, 636 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 4: This was your show's signature deal. There was an amazing rally. 637 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: You got people to show up, people who don't normally 638 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: do this type of thing, and it was loud and 639 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: it was rowdy. And you know what Rod Bray did. 640 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: He had a mariachi band and he was pissed off 641 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: people were wearing green and he did not come by 642 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: to give you. 643 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: Guys, he tells his people not to wear green. 644 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 4: He came on St. Patrick's there and he came by. 645 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry he did not come by to give you 646 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: one ounce of his time. So that's what he thinks 647 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: of you. Like if I were you two, I'd be 648 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: more pissed off at him than anybody. Okay, So that's one. 649 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 4: Number Two, he was against constitutional carry for so long. 650 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: The only reason that butt Sniffer changed his mind was 651 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 4: because allegedly the NRA broke off a phone call and 652 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: said to be a shame if the funding stopped. Oh 653 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, Holy Lord, he saw the light. 654 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 4: It's funny how that works out. It's almost like that 655 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: guy in his elite team of butt sniffers around him 656 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: only care about money. So there's that. And then also 657 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: when given the opportunity to fight back and fire Andre 658 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 4: Carson and fire Frank Mervan, he sat in the corner 659 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 4: and did nothing. And I get it. If it were 660 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: Jefferson Shreeve, he'd probably do the same thing. Some of 661 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 4: these Republicans are zeros, but don't get smug and people 662 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: acting like this dude is a rhino because he's been 663 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: against three of the biggest things that I care about 664 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 4: in the last five years. 665 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: So you're saying he is a rhino, he needs to 666 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: be primary. 667 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 4: Well, it's three years. I mean, it's three years down 668 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: the road. But some of us were hating this clown 669 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: before it was cool. People got so like humors just 670 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 4: out these days. Remember in Missus Doubtfire, where he goes 671 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 4: through all the voices when he goes to meet with 672 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: the at the employment place and he does all the 673 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 4: voices and she just looks at him and goes, do 674 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 4: you consider yourself to be funny? Like I posted that photo, 675 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 4: I changed my profile picture to Rod Braid. By the way, 676 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 4: people are freaking out because every time I comment on 677 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: somebody's post, they think it's Rod Bray bringing the smoke. 678 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 4: I'm just being funnier, and people are you've you've sold out. 679 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: You're a you're a you're a whatever, a boot liquor 680 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: or whatever the name was, Like it's funny, it's humorous, 681 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: Like nothing's funny anymore. I'm sorry for trying like just 682 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: it's all I'm with you. Rod Bray is awful. I 683 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: don't dispute that he's totally fact. 684 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 4: That he is in this position of power, like he's 685 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: the captain now and he's been the captain right, doesn't 686 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: matter who the governor was. He's calling the balls and 687 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 4: strikes here. The fact that we as a state have 688 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: allowed this just Needle Wiener to become the guy that 689 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 4: maybe that's an US problem. Maybe that's a voting problem. 690 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 2: So do you I think that they should go and 691 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: meet and vote anyway he's saying they don't have the votes. 692 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 4: Like, on one hand, don't waste the money if you 693 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: don't have it. 694 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: But I would like to see on record, on the. 695 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 4: Record, just curiosity because I don't believe these polls that 696 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 4: say it was overwhelmingly unpopular. 697 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 3: Every one of them, they're all in. 698 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: The tank, just like just like Kamala was supposed to 699 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: be right there neck and neck with Trump, every one 700 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: of them. 701 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: Well, statistically where the country it was like what a 702 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: percentage point separated? I mean it was neck and neck. 703 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: Let's see. Okay, Like, so that's what I'm saying. Maybe 704 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 4: it is, maybe it isn't, But I'm not buying for 705 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 4: a minute that like it looks like Satan bad, you know, 706 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: Satan good poll. I don't think it's that way at all. 707 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 4: I think it's closer than you guys think. 708 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Okay, but Braun does the horrible in all this that 709 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: he folded on property taxes, and he's like moving heaven 710 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: and earth to try to get this thing through. 711 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: Scheduled to join us tomorrow at five. 712 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 4: Oh six oh in studio or day, so we'll see 713 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 4: what happens. 714 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 5: Uh. 715 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 4: He was scheduled to join us before all of this 716 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 4: went through. He's never canceled in appearance on our show. 717 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: So we look forward to having the governor in here tomorrow. 718 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: The invite still stands. Hopefully we'll have some thoughts on 719 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 4: all of this stuff. 720 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: Going on here. 721 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: If I slide a paper over to you with a 722 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: few thoughts on them, when you pass them along to him. 723 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: I will do that. 724 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: Well. 725 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 4: How the last time we had the Lieutenant Governor on, 726 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: I played your question, did I not? 727 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna write a memo. I think 728 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: that's what I'll do. If I write a memo, will 729 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: you pass it along? 730 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh? 731 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's what everybody loves, reading long, long, long 732 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 4: things on social media. 733 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: He's a sharp It'll be great, like a Limitarian and 734 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: you're coming out. 735 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: It'll be great. When I did the do remember he 736 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 3: loved that. 737 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: He said he put it on his fridge or something, 738 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: didn't he People love. 739 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 4: Reading long, long, long, long long. 740 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 3: Put a sticker on it like I did the last one. 741 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: What's coming up today? 742 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 4: We'll continue this conversation. We're going to get a decision 743 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: from the prosecutor in that Westfield Whitetown shooting. Whatever it is, 744 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 4: Guy Ralford scheduled to join us. 745 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: Thanks Hammer. It is Kenderlly Casey. It's ninety three uy 746 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: B C.