1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel show. President Donald 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Trump talking about a lot of things. This is, i believe, 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: late yesterday during this show from the Oval Office. Right, 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: He's sitting behind the resolute desk. 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: Could you imagine Joe Biden doing this, by the way. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no. 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: And the old man here does it all the time. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 3: I think. 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: I think the old man has had more cabinet meetings 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: in public over the past year than Joe Biden did 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: in his entire four years as president. 12 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: But this is the last one, doctor Jill led remember. 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, right, but this is not this is not 14 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: a cabinet meeting what we're talking about. This is him 15 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: in the Oval Office. And just a side note, there 16 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: was like a rumor that Donald Trump removed the resolute 17 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: desk from the Oval Office, which is, you know, one 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: hundred fifty years old. Several presidents of views that that 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: was a total, total rumor and not true at all. 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: But anyway, Donald Trump talking about a lot of things yesterday. Again, 21 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the most transparent and open president to take questions that 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. Right, you might not 23 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: like his answer, Oh no, no, I'm not saying you 24 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: don't have to like him or like him or the answers, 25 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: but he's no Joe Biden was no Donald Trump. No please. 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: Biden couldn't do a chopper presser. 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 4: He tried once and they said, you know what, just 28 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: just go sit down, go fall up the stairs, get inside, 29 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 4: and let's not do this again. 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: Donald Trump yesterday, Now this was. 31 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: Before we found out that the partial government shutdown would 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: come to an end today, but sounded like he was 33 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 4: optimistic for it yesterday. 34 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 5: Well, I smoked with Speaker Johnson, I spoke with Leader 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 5: Thun and I thank you are pretty close to a resolution. 36 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 5: You know, we were at five point six percent GDP 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: and we lost a point and a half because of 38 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 5: the forty two day shutdown, thinking that we would have 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 5: been at seven. Nobody was so at number like seven, 40 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 5: and I think Howard probably a point and a half 41 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 5: was the number. 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: One four and a half for the shutdown, exactly right. 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 5: And it's very bad for our country. But despite that, 44 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 5: we have the highest numbers we've ever had. 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 4: And I think that's interesting to point out. The reason 46 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: we played this SoundBite is listen to what that government 47 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: shutdown did in terms. 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: Of the economic number. It was a point and a 49 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: half difference. 50 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: Well, that's a big difference when you're dealing with is 51 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: the economy working, is the economy not. It's a lot 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: easier to fix the economy when everything's open. I know, 53 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: we kind of joke all the time, don't threaten me 54 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: with a good time. If you want to stay closed, 55 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 4: stay closed. My life isn't going to change. But in 56 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: terms of the economy as a whole, it went down 57 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: by a point and a half during that shutdown. So 58 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: that's why I think the old man was a little 59 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: bit more open to having Jahan fire up the negotiations 60 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: and trying to fix this thing this time around. Something 61 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: that I am in favor of anybody that is in 62 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 4: favor of law enforcement should be body cams ordered by Christinome. 63 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: For us, they generally tend to be good for law 64 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: enforcement because people can't lie about what's happening bingo. So 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: it's generally speaking, I think eighty percent good for law enforcement. 66 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: But if he wants to do that, I'm okay with it. 67 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: We've said this how many times, like for all the 68 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: folks that are anti police, defund the police, defund eyes. 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: We want transparency. Body cams on. 70 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 4: Officers bail them out of more left wing bull crap 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: than anything else. 72 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: Go back to the George Floyd situation. 73 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 4: Here in Indy, there was the dray Sean Reid story, 74 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: and originally we were peddled a story of the police 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: just gunned down an unarmed kid. But the real reality 76 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 4: is based on the body cam that we saw from 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: the police, who did a great job at that press 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: conference going frame by frame. This was an idiot that 79 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: not only had the weapon on him, was in a 80 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: high speed chase with police, and that's how we met 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: his maker. 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: And this is a different rabbit hole we could go 83 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: down for a different day. The family of dray Shawn 84 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Reid still got paid. If I'm not mistaken. 85 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: By the City of Indianapolis, they shure as hell did. 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: Good Lord dray shown Reed tried to murder a police officer. 87 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: We were several, Yeah, we were alled to believe this 88 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: was supposed to be some sort of racially motivated attack, 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: even though basically everybody in the story was black. Here, 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 4: black police officer, black suspect right, and the bodycam footage 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 4: and the video the truth s. I'll shet you free. 92 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: And that's why I think Ice needs to wear these. 93 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: I'm in favor of this. Uh talked a little bit 94 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: about the Epstein files. 95 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 5: I mean, other than Bill Glennon and you know, Bill Gason, 96 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 5: lots of people that have there are a lot of 97 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 5: questions about it, but nothing on me. But it was 98 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 5: even sort of better than that because they found that 99 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein and this Lesbank writer named Michael Wolf were conspiring, yeah, 100 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: against Donald Trump to lose the election. 101 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: So Epstein was confir with a writer for me to. 102 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 5: Lose the election. So right there, you know that I 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: had nothing to do with this guy. But yeah, it's 104 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 5: a terrible thing, the amount of time that's being wasted. 105 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 5: You know, when Epstein was alive, like ten years ago, 106 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 5: nobody cared about it. But they're only doing it. But 107 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 5: now it's really hitting back in them because Bill Gletton 108 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 5: is such a big part of it. 109 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 4: So how many times do we have to say this? 110 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: If the Democrats had anything on Donald Trump that was 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: legit about Epstein and sex with girls, don't you think 112 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 4: they would have used it during the last presidential election. 113 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: Was never even on the island. And that's something that 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Noah, the host of the Grammys, the no talent 115 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,119 Speaker 1: host that doesn't have a job right now, intimated during 116 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: the Grammys. I don't know if he was joking or 117 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: being serious, but pretty much said, yeah, Trump was on Epstein. No, 118 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: never any proof, never any evidence of that never happened, 119 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: And Trump tweeted out in social media. We didn't get 120 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: to it yesterday, but Trump tweeted out on social media, 121 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm coming after you legally, right, Okay. 122 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 4: If you're going to call me a pedophile, I'm coming 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 4: after you legally. 124 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: Which maybe that's what needs to happen. 125 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: Like I hate that we're so into legal stuff in 126 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: this country, But for the Jimmy Kimmels of the world, 127 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 4: for the Trevor Noah's of the world, if you just 128 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: want to pedal bull crap and not use the word allegedly, 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 4: then maybe you need to meet some law Maybe you 130 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 4: need some lawyers in your life. Last one, here President 131 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 4: Trump talking a little bit about the relationship between the 132 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: United States and Cuba. 133 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: Failed nation now and they're not getting any money from Venezuela, 134 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: and they're not getting any money from anywhere. It's a 135 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: failed nation. Mexico is going to cease sending them oil. 136 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: So I'd like to. 137 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: Take care of the people that are here from Kumba. 138 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: You know, we have many people that came from Cuba, 139 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: that were thrown out of Cuba, that fled Cuba. They 140 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: came over in rafts, they went through shark infested waters. 141 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: I don't know how they did it, and it was 142 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: many years ago. Many would like to go back, men 143 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: would like to at least visit their relatives. And I 144 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: think we're at a pretty close but we are dealing 145 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: with the Cuban leaders right now. 146 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: Dealing with the Cuban leaders, meaning we're telling them what's 147 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: going to happen and we're hoping they comply. 148 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Really no need to negotiate with those with those quote 149 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: unquote leaders of a field state, right, you know. 150 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: And again, talk to Jerry Lopez, whose family came over 151 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: from Cuba, a fillent host here at WIBC Indie Spanglish. 152 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Talk to him about what it's like in Cuba. 153 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: And yet you've got all these young, you know, gen 154 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: z folks in New York that think socialism and communism 155 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: is cool. 156 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: We want our mayor to be that way. We want 157 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: the government to. 158 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: Be that way. 159 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: Don't all right f around and find out all you're 160 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: hearing complaints. 161 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: Let him find out, Hammer, Let him find out. 162 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: Have you seen the streets of New York, the trash 163 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: that are just piled up, the fact that the snow 164 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: was still there from the previous storm. Like, there's more 165 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: to being a mayor than just your political perspective. You 166 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: got to do a little nuts and bolts. You got 167 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: to clear the streets and take out the trash. And 168 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: already Man Dommi's having a hard time with that in 169 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 4: New York. 170 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: We'll see how this plays out. It's the Hammer of 171 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Nigel Show.