1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,279 Speaker 1: Well, Tony says, we got to do it. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 2: Well, then if Tony said we have to do it, 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: we have to do it, then what do we have 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: to do. 5 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: I was only kind of thinking about doing it, yeah, 6 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: and then Tony said a few minutes ago, we have 7 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: to do it. 8 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Tony has spoken it's kind of a Casey show. 9 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm rob that's Casey. Now. Yesterday we had floated the 10 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: idea of since I was very rudely banned from the 11 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: Hendricks County Lincoln Day dinner because they don't want Diego 12 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Morales getting asked again who paid for India? Because the 13 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: guys and out of control, corrupt, unethical goof who can't 14 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: keep his story straight and can't well can't lie very well. 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: They were very worried about another episode like we had 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: in Clay County where I humiliated him in front of 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: everyone and his arms were flailing in the dry mouth 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: that he was shouting, and then when he was so 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: flustered when he got up to give his own speeches. 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: I paid for India. 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: I did it, and people are like, what the hell 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: is this guy talking about? So they desperately didn't want that. 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: They didn't want Micah if he's there getting asked how 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: he ended up at Game three of the NBA Finals 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: with the high profile known felon They don't want of 26 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Craig Haggard. He's there asking getting asked why he lied 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: to our audience about restricting et Center stoner. So they 28 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: just banned me from the event. 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Rather than deal with the truth, they just say you're 30 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: not welcome. 31 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean again, it's not like you're dealing with some 32 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: guy who's got you know, multiple, you know, felonious convictions. 33 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm not listed in any post offices that I'm aware. 34 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: I just similarly would politely ask, as I did with 35 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: Grifters r Us the Secretary of State a month ago 36 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: or a few months ago, who paid for your trip 37 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: to a foreign country and what did you do there? 38 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: But the Republicans, because they as a party are so 39 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: corrupt and they know what these people are, and instead 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: of dealing with it like any decent person wouldn't say 41 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: you're a disgrace, you're out of here, they say, no, no, no, 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: we'll ban the guy who might ask the question. They 43 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: also don't want me getting attention because I know if 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: I go to this thing, I'll be the center of attention. 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: And they don't want that, so they put the band 46 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean, which is fine, they can do that whatever. 47 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: But but the suggestion was then made, Hey, you ought 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: to have your own Lincoln Day dinner. 49 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: Isn't it interesting that you become the problem rather than them? 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: But in their eyes, in their eyes, you're the problem 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: but versus addressing the truth. 52 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: But it's not surprising, Casey, because this is who they are. 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: They know what they are, they know what they're mad 54 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: about there even they're not even mad that people know. 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: They're mad that someone with the platform has the ability 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: to tell people what they are. That's what angers them. 57 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: And Tony was right, Tony and was very nice of 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Tony Yemion at the end of his show today and 59 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: we had a little back and forth about this, and 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right. All they had to do was just 61 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: let me go, tell diego, don't show up. 62 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: Right. 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: Or you don't even know for sure he was going 64 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: to be there. 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: No, it's my understanding he was going to be there, 66 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: but just tell him, don't show up, let me go. 67 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: There's one hundred or two hundred people or whatever it 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: is there. They already all have an opinion on me, 69 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: and what's going on anyway, they all know, and if 70 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: he's there, let me ask the question, let him not 71 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: give an answer again, let him embarrass himself. We'll come 72 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: on and chuckle about it on Monday and then we'll 73 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: move on. But by banning me, they. 74 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: Made it worse. 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: They've made it a massive story. So thank you. And 76 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: now Tony says, hey, this is a phenomenal idea. You 77 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: gotta have a Lincoln Day dinner right. Sounds like a 78 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: lot of work. 79 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: Though, it does, but I think it's being received very well. Well, 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: it is the idea of it, but I don't I. 81 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: Don't want to have to do any work, so I'm 82 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna put you in charge. 83 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: You're done there, Hey, I'm a good party planner. 84 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 5: Now. 85 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: We have talked about parting, particularly with our Paladi reporter 86 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: as well, so I don't know, you kick around some 87 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: things here and figure out if we want to do 88 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: this or not. I told Tony nothing this weekend, though 89 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup is this weekend, so I'm out, So 90 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: it'd have to be at least Monday before I started 91 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: actually putting on. And I've got to stop by the 92 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Arby's today to find out what their catering prices are 93 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: because my goal with this, because these Lincoln Day dinners 94 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: they're always so expensive, sure that regular people a lot 95 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: of times can't afford to go do it. I'm the 96 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: cheap Yeah, I want to like, like me, you know, 97 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: twenty five, thirty forty dollars whatever, and instead of some 98 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: rubber chicken dinner you don't like anyway, let's do Arby's. 99 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: It'll be less expensive. Yeah, and we'll do it that. 100 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: Way rather than cocktails. 101 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: Let's just go yeah, beer budget, it'll be, it'll be, 102 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: it'll be Arby's. And you know you're coming for the 103 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: speeches anyway, right, Yes, Carl. 104 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: Had mentioned Tony's producer. Hey, if I have tickets to 105 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: the Lincoln Day, should I just take Rob? 106 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: What are they gonna do block him from entering? 107 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: We I here's the thing. I really didn't want to 108 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: go because they're so boring. Right, But isn't it crazy 109 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: that like two months ago, when I talked to that 110 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: guy Phil Clay, who's the chairman of the republic Can Party, 111 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: I knew that little two face he was going to 112 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: get squirrels, was gonna do it. Even though it's all 113 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: we're cool, man, it's all it's all fine and blah blah. 114 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: It was like, I know what that guy is gonna do, 115 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: and I started planning for this then, and they did 116 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: exactly what I knew they were gonna do. 117 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: You always say you know them better than they know themselves. 118 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so thank you to Phil and the rest 119 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: of people there for doing exactly what I knew you 120 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: were gonna do. W It's worked out flawlessly, and now 121 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people have seen exactly what you 122 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: guys are and how you operate. And so in theme 123 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: of that, I think at ten o'clock, I'm going to 124 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: give a sample of the Lincoln Day speech I would give. Okay, 125 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: now it'll be an abbreviated version, because we're not going 126 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: to take up, you know, the fifteen or twenty minutes. 127 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: But I'll give up an abbreviated Lincoln Day speech, like 128 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: if we did have the Rob Kendall Lincoln Day event 129 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: of what you a little, it'd be a lot more animated. 130 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: I might use some more colorful phraseologies I can't use 131 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: here on public airwaves. But we'll do that at we'll 132 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: do that at at ten o'clock. If that' have a theme, yes, yes, 133 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: truth and honesty. 134 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: Well you've got something to say. 135 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: About that, okay. So in the meantime, there is a 136 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: lot going on. Why don't we go ahead and take 137 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: a break, sure, because the governor did something so ridiculous yesterday. 138 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: Well he did two things that were so ridiculous yesterday, 139 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: and I want to make sure we can get to 140 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: both of them in the next segment. 141 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: It's coming up from ninety three WIBC. 142 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: Okay, So the governor did something so ridiculous, well, two 143 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: things even by his own standards, yesterday. But there could 144 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: be a job in the future for you. So we're looking. 145 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Let's try to work through this here for seconds, Kenel 146 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: and Casey show. I'm Rob, that's Casey. So the Governor, 147 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: Mike Brown came out and he has formed or named 148 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: people to a committee who will decide the three vacancies 149 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: on the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission. 150 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: Correct, it's a nominating committee. 151 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: And these are the people who either approve or tell 152 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: the utilities to kick rocks when they come to them 153 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: asking for rate increases. Now what's hilarious out of this 154 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: is one of the people who was named is Suzi Javoroski, 155 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: the Energy Secretary. 156 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: Correct. 157 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: So the governor has come out. Now, now this is 158 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: the hypocrisy or whatever you want to call it of 159 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: this guy. So in the session he signs a bill 160 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: that everybody acknowledged will force users, consumers to pay more 161 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 1: for utilities. This doctor Frankenstein SMR Small Modular Reactor Bill, 162 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: which allows utilities to recoup eighty percent of their cost 163 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: on technology for nuclear whether the technology works or not. 164 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: So everybody is acknowledged this is over the long term 165 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: going to ports people to pay more for utility bills. 166 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: People begged him not to sign it, people told him 167 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: what it was. He signed it. He took both of 168 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: his middle fingers and he stuck it in the state's face. 169 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Now he comes out and goes, oh, man, I'm so 170 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: concerned about the cost of utilities. Somebody better do something 171 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: about this. We got to point new people to the. 172 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: I U r C. 173 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: And the person he puts on this committee is Susie 174 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Javoroski as Energy Secretary, who just last week went to 175 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,479 Speaker 1: an event and said, these energy companies and energy projects 176 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: companies and tech companies, ye should consider suing or should 177 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: sue these municipalities who string them along. To me, some 178 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: of us, who go through the process properly, who allow 179 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: people to have their voice, elected officials, who make decisions 180 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: after they've heard all the facts from all the people. 181 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: She wants these companies to consider suing the municipalities. That's 182 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: who Mike Brawn says is going to be in charge 183 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: of picking the bial for this commission. That he says, 184 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: all these got to be advocates for the consumers. And 185 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: he's now said by appointing her to this positions like 186 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: he's hiding her in a corner. Some I'm like, oh 187 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's so embarrassing. I can't I'm appalled you 188 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: would say that we got to discipline her, put her 189 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: in a timeout. No, he's proud of her. It is 190 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: now apparent the Broad Administration's official position is that if 191 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: municipalities stand in the way of these energy companies or 192 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: these data centers or whatever, then they should be sued. 193 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: That's now apparently the official position of the Broad administration 194 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: based on he didn't fire her, he didn't discipline her, 195 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:41,359 Speaker 1: he didn't condemn her. He's putting Susie Jaborowski, the Energy Secretary, 196 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: on this commission to decide who will decide utility rates 197 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: going forward. 198 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, with electricity costs already a concern for residents, 199 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: major tech companies will need to shoulder financial responsibility, this 200 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: in regards to data centers. So is he going to 201 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: change the SMR bill? Is he going to rewrite? Call 202 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: the session back in say oh wait a minute, we 203 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: got to fix this. 204 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: Is that? What's gonna happen? 205 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Do you think he even knows what's going on? Casey, 206 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: I think he knows. 207 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: He's got to fill these positions. Applications open yesterday to 208 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 4: join the i u r C. 209 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: And he said that he. 210 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 4: Is seeking entrepreneurial candidates and they have to be objective 211 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: and fair. They have to bring objectivity and fairness to 212 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 4: the table this to protect rate payers. What. 213 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: No, No, that is no. We've already had similar words 214 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: multiple decades. Essentially a rubber stamp from the i u 215 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: r C. Not in fairness, but in the side of 216 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: the utilities. No, I'm not interested in fair I'm not 217 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: interested in above board. You know what. I want somebody 218 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: who's gonna tell the utilities to take to take their 219 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: rate increases and tell them right where to stick it. 220 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: I want somebody that's on my side for once. Because 221 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: nobody in the government's ever on my side. I'm not 222 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: interested at all in fairness, Casey. 223 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: So the committee will make the recommendations, but the final 224 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: decision rests on Governor Brawn. Indiana is one of four 225 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 4: states where utility regulators are appointed solely by the executive 226 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: with no legislative confirmation. So you've got this committee and 227 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: they met their recommendation to the governor, and then the 228 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: governor rubber stamps it or he says no. Now, the 229 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 4: applications are due by October fourteenth, Rob, I happen to 230 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: have the application in front of me. 231 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: You're interested, Well, why would I not go through this process? 232 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 4: No? 233 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: I love this, though. I just want to make sure 234 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: we're saying this out let you, Casey Daniels, are considering 235 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: applying for this one of these open positions. Yeah, I 236 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: love this. 237 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 238 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: So the application is just general background, your name, employment, university, 239 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: any college degree that's right, your birthday. 240 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: Answer, relationships with utilities. 241 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: They want to know if you or anybody in your 242 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: immediate family has worked for any. 243 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: Of the utilities. But then we get down to question 244 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 2: number F. 245 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: Oh, question number F very good, Yeah, question number I 246 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: see what they Question number fight. 247 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Please identify any persons or organizations who you might 248 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: who might oppose your appointment to this position. Please identify 249 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: any persons who might oppose your appointment. 250 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: Well, how about the governor himself? 251 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: And then g If you've taken a visible role in 252 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: matters of significant public interest or controversy, please describe the circumstances. 253 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: Does it ask for references? Is there a reference section? 254 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: I haven't gotten down that far. You have to provide 255 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: a written statement. 256 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: But yes, have I take a visible role in any 257 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: matters of significant public interest or controversy? 258 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: But why wouldn't they want that? 259 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: Please describe the circumstances. 260 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: I'm just want to put governor, you were there, come 261 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: back to that for a second. 262 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you want that? Because that's what this is? 263 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: What was the phraseology? Have you taken any roles in 264 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: what were the words? 265 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: Taking a visible role in matters of significant public interest 266 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 4: or controversial? 267 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Okay, that's exactly what. This is significant public interest and 268 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: it's controversial. Who's ever going to be on this board 269 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: is going to be thrown into matters of significant public 270 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: interest and controversy? If you haven't done it, I don't 271 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: think i'd want you on this board because we need 272 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: people with stones. Well you're a woman, so whatever the 273 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: woman equivalent of stones is, casey, I don't know, but 274 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: whatever that is. We need men and women who have 275 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: said enough is enough. We're sick of these utilities buying 276 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: and selling, our politicians getting basically whatever they want. And 277 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: we are in charge now and you're done here, and 278 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: they are handling The consumer advocate is handling it perfect 279 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: with this AES rate request. In what she is saying, 280 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: not only should the rate request be denied, but now 281 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: anytime one of these utilities come back for rate requests, 282 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: we're going to try to get because you've opened the door, 283 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: we're going to try to get their rates repealed. That's 284 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: how this has got to be handled. The people got 285 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: to put themselves back in charge. You got to put 286 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: the politicians in a corner. And we need some people 287 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: who are not screwed around to be on that board. 288 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, for the sake of transparency. If Governor 289 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: Brown means anything of what he says, yeah, he should 290 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: put someone like me or you on this board. 291 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: We would be the one loan voice. 292 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: Now, the application does ask for a list of both 293 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: professional and personal references. 294 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: Please, Can you please list me as one of your references, no. 295 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: More than three of each. Can you speak to my character, 296 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: abilities and reputation totally? 297 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Okay? 298 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: You know who else is on this nominating committee? 299 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Who's that? 300 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: Jim Merrit? 301 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Oh, our buddy Merritt, and he's go be with us 302 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: next yees. 303 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask him about it real quick. 304 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: Before we go to break. Can we play this clip 305 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: speaking of the governor doing something ridiculous? He was on 306 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: with Gary Dick yesterday inside Indiana Business. Gary's been around forever, 307 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: a very respected member of the media, and he got 308 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: asked about his administration, like the first nine months of 309 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: his administration, and then I forget exactly how this happened, 310 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: but somehow it peels off into an answer about COVID. 311 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: And everybody needs to hold on to their seats or 312 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: steering wheels or wherever you may be, because get a 313 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: listen to this. 314 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: Been in office now nine months your assessment on the 315 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: state of the Indiana economy. 316 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 5: So the state of our Indiana economy was always good 317 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 5: relative to our peer group of Midwestern states, and that's 318 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 5: because we're an enterprising state. We got an excellent business climate, 319 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: and then you're always dealing with issues that come to 320 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 5: an impact you maybe from Afar. Let's just go back 321 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: to say COVID. You know, I was a government shutting 322 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 5: down business that impacted every state differently for a short 323 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 5: period of time until they had their hands around what 324 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 5: it really was. Indiana probably navigated through that, you know, Okay, 325 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 5: some businesses, you know, were maybe overly cautious with it, 326 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: and I think they regret that now. I mean, some 327 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 5: of the things we had to do to get our 328 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 5: kids educated, but that's hindsight. We went came through all that. 329 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so we needed did Okay. 330 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: There's so much to unpack with this clip. 331 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: In Mike Braun's eyes, a million people being put out 332 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: of work, tens of thousands of businesses being shut down, 333 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: by the way, idiot, they didn't shut down on their own. 334 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: They did it because Holcomb made them do it. 335 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: Some businesses were overly cautious. Holcome shut it down. And 336 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: then he goes on to say that we had to 337 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 4: do what we had to do to get our kids educated. Hello, 338 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: my kid didn't have a graduation. One day, she was 339 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: in school the next day. She never went back. And 340 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 4: the question was what is the state of Indiana's economy current? 341 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: And what does the governor say? 342 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: He says was always good. 343 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: He goes right into the past. Now we're asking you 344 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: about today. Dude. Look, can I call the governor? 345 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 4: Dude? 346 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: I just did the camera angle? By the way, is 347 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: really bad on it too. 348 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, like you know, it's like way up 349 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 4: high looking down on them. Somebody should have done something 350 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 4: about that. 351 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: You do have to wonder what planet he's living on? 352 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: One and two, You do have to wonder does he 353 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: even remember that the states only shut down because you 354 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: and your goon Republican friends bribed them with trillions of 355 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: dollars good money? 356 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 357 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: Lo, what planet is this guy even living on? 358 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: He says, we're equal to other states? 359 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 5: Really? 360 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 4: Did Ohio have a two billion dollars swordful? How about Michigan? 361 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: How about Illinois? I don't know the answer to that. 362 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: But he was being asked about the current state of Indiana. 363 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: Couldn't answer it. 364 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So when we come back, speaking of people who 365 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: can't answer things, Jim Merritt's gonna be with us. Nobody 366 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: knows the Indiana Senate better than him, and we are 367 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: going to try to make sense of that interview Jim 368 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: Schella did with Rod Bray, the pro TIM of the Senate, 369 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: in which he essentially refused to answer anything about redistricting. 370 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: And we'll let you ask Merritt if he'll nominate you 371 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: for the iur me if. 372 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: He'll give me the thumbs up. Yeah, it's coming up. 373 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: It's ninety three wibcstre. 374 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm thinking bad baby you. That Jim Shella interview with 375 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: the pro tim of the Senate was fascinating. Nobody knows 376 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: the Indiana cent better than this guy. Let's try to 377 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: make some sense of it. Let's get a Casey's showing 378 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: Rob case He's here. Look who it is, Robert thirty 379 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: years in the Indiana Senate, the great Jim Merritt. Hello, Hello, 380 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: ocase we talked about this, Casey and I did. I 381 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: think on Monday we talked about this, this fascinating piece 382 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: in the IBJ by Jim Shalla, former longtime WISH TV reporter. 383 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: By the way, you and I were talking about this 384 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: in state House happenings. I miss the days where there 385 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: were like the mega personalities and the media who were 386 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: just in the in and around the state House every 387 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: day and. 388 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: There were some iconic people in that core. 389 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously I'm a big personality. We had. 390 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: There are other people a big personals, but they're not 391 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: in the state House. I'm not in the state House. 392 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: Every day info I get is people giving it to me. 393 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: It's not you know, I'm not knocking on doors. And 394 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: guys like Jim Schella were larger than like like growing 395 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: up watching him and he just felt like somebody. 396 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and you know these newsmen and some of 397 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: our listeners, and good morning to everybody. Some of our 398 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: listeners will remember Ed Zigner who wrote for the Indianapolis 399 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: News and Gordon Ingohard who wrote for the Louisville Courier Journal. 400 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: Actually had somebody in Annapolis writing for Kentucky Indiana and 401 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: and uh, and he lived a couple of streets away 402 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: from me, and so it it it it. It was 403 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 3: a different time where the media and they would be 404 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: on the floor of the Senate wandering around just having 405 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: conversations with people about what was going on, and they 406 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 3: knew everything, and uh, they would actually honor off the record, 407 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: and uh, and there was a lot of off the record, 408 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: but uh, that is different today. There really isn't many, 409 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: if any, really deep seated people in UH embedded into 410 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: the state House. 411 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: So Jim Schella is still, you know, doing some media 412 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: these days. You're retired from from WISH TV. But one 413 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: of the things he does is I think he works 414 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: with our old pal Robert Vaine, who does the Leaders 415 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: and Legends podcasts outstanding podcasts. Yeah, by the way, and 416 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, I hate to bragg on myself, but Vaine 417 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: told me at one point my episode was like the 418 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: most I don't let it episode. I don't doubt that, 419 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: not because I'm the most famous, but I just think 420 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: people are like, what is he going to say? 421 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 3: What is he going to say? 422 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: And so I don't know if I still am. He's 423 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: interviewed people far, far more famous than me anyway, So 424 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: Shella now is a part of that. But he also 425 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: does a column for the the IBJ yes Indianapolis Business 426 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: Journal correct And in this column he was talking about 427 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: an interview he did for the Leaders in Legends podcast 428 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: with Rod Bray, the pro tim of the Senate, and 429 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: he ended up asking him some questions about redistricting, and 430 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: I just want to read these to our audience. I 431 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: know we talked about the other day, but I want 432 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: to get your take on it, because you know the 433 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: Senate so well. So he goes me, me being Shella, 434 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: do you have a position on redistricting? Bray? We've heard 435 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: the ask and we are considering it. Me, do you 436 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: know what a decision will be made? Bray? We have 437 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: heard the ask and we are considering it. Shella then 438 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: goes on to write, his body language is more telling. 439 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: He recoiled like he wanted to curl up in a ball. 440 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: It was clear that he would repeat his can't answer 441 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: to any follow up question. So I moved on. You 442 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: spent thirty years in the Indiana Senate. You rose to 443 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: the level of number two in the Senate. What was 444 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: going on with that? And how do we have a 445 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: policy that's being considered that's apparently so bad or unliked 446 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: by the people that this guy being Rod Bray, the 447 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: leader of the Senate. Now he won't even answer the question. 448 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: Well, you and I both and Casey, I'm sure she's 449 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: here as well, that this, Hello, Casey, this is a 450 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: bad idea. And Sam Bray knows it's He's been in 451 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: the White House, the Vice President's been here. His caucuse 452 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: seemingly we don't know because they meet in private, but 453 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: this is that they know it's a bad idea. They're 454 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: hearing from their constituents. They they're very proud of the 455 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: maps they drew in twenty twenty one. And I would 456 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 3: imagine Sinner Bray. I've not talked to him about this, 457 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: but I would imagine that he would much rather have 458 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: those words back and uh and and uh and and 459 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: for our audience. Uh. This was cleared with the Senate 460 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: that uh, this was going to be asked. And so 461 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: I think at the forefront section of the ib J 462 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: is very good. They have it maybe once a month, 463 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: and Shella does right for it and h and he 464 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: Shelle is a straight shooter. It's it's unfortunate. It's a 465 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: situation where the Senate and the House of Representatives look 466 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: like they're playing out the clock. And uh and and 467 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: they don't have consensus in their in their caucus. And uh, 468 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: I think it was uh uh. I think again. I 469 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: think if Santa Bray had it over again, he probably 470 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 3: responded differently. And it's been reported that the Speaker of 471 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: the House of Representatives was asking a in a public 472 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: forum somewhere about it. And he said, you'll have to 473 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: talk to the governor. 474 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me let me read this, because I think 475 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: this is fascinating how they they being the generals simply 476 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: just don't They don't want any part of this, like 477 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: not even it's brave or any questions. 478 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 5: No. 479 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: Sheela described Bray's appearance on the podcast. So this again 480 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: from Jim Sheeller from Wish tv dais Before the podcast, 481 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: Vain and the communications person for Bray spoke and agreed 482 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: to avoid the topic of redistricting. Vain in turn asked 483 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: me to avoid it. I said no, journalistic ethics would 484 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: not allow it. Vain tells me that he informed a 485 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: Bray camp he would not guarantee I would follow their wishes. 486 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: They don't even like they're telling people in these you know, 487 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: when you request an interview, it's usually hey, what do 488 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: you want to talk about? Blah blah blah blah blah 489 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: blah blah. Well, at some point that had to come up, 490 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: and they go, whatever, you do, no questions about redistricting. 491 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: That tells you how bad these people know. What they're 492 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: what is being proposed actually. 493 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 3: Is Yeah, it's telling you that that the leaders are 494 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 3: being It's like getting caught in an elevator door. I mean, 495 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: both both sides are hitting you, and you're getting squished. 496 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: And uh and and like I said, I think Center 497 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 3: Barry probably would react differently if he had to do 498 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: over again. But it is symptomatic or emblematic of the idea, 499 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: symbolic of the idea that that uh, their constituents. I mean, 500 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: we saw someone toe in nine thousand signatures against against 501 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: the situation to the governor's office. And and the governor 502 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: is getting pushed. Uh. The federal government has strings, which 503 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: is age old that that most of the time the 504 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: federal government does not pull those strings. But uh, with 505 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 3: the personality like the president and now the vice president 506 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: pushing the governor pushing the legislature, there's just an incredible 507 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: amount of pressure out there to have this and uh 508 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: and and as I say it, the legislature right now 509 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 3: is trying to play out the clock. 510 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 4: So you mentioned the federal government. About a week ago, 511 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: Governor Brawn alluded to consequences if redistricting didn't happen, and 512 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: then just yesterday reportedly he said, I really wouldn't expect 513 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 4: that that would probably occur. So I guess the question 514 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 4: is what federal benefits are conditional on partisan maps. 515 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I don't know because I'm not 516 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: in the meetings, but i will tell you that when 517 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: the federal government decided that on highways you have to 518 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: have fifty five miles an hour speed limit, and if 519 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: you didn't have that, if you wanted to, if the 520 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 3: state wanted to have six or sixty five, then they 521 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: would have purse strings on moneys that they would send you. 522 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 3: And so that's an example of the push from the 523 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: federal government because of a policy they wanted. Now, there 524 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: are a variety of ideas, there are a variety of policies 525 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: and benefits the federal government can give Indiana right now 526 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 3: that are are beneficial to our state. And I'm certain 527 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: that the leaders of the state, of the governor and 528 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: the legislature do not want to sacrifice that support from 529 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 3: the federal government. That is the pressure, that is the push. 530 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: I mean, there's always the thing, but then there's the thing. 531 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: And it's like me getting banned from the Hendricks County 532 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: linka day that does you know whatever, But the thing 533 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: is you're exposing who you are that you don't want 534 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: these politicians who you know are so corrupt and unethical 535 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 3: to be asked questions. 536 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: That's the thing in this case. The thing is they're 537 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: telling you who Donald Trump and his administration actually are. 538 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: That they're so petty that if you don't do bad 539 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: public policy policy that doesn't fit for our state, we 540 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: will try to screw you, or we're worried we're gonna 541 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: screw you. They're really telling you who the people in Washington, 542 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: d C. Running this country are. That's the thing. 543 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and this has been seen from the Trump 544 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: administration across the world, from stopping wars to the tariff 545 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: to everything. It's it's all about power and meaning force 546 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: to get their their point of view or their or 547 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 3: their policy push to success. And and then then it's 548 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: all about a show that that this is our our 549 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 3: point of view, this is our position, and this is 550 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 3: what we the ends of the of the of the 551 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: earth that we will go to get our way. 552 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Merrett, before we let you go, we start a 553 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: program with this Casey is desperate for a second job, 554 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: and you are now on this i U r C 555 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: nominating committee, and we want to know what's involved with 556 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: being on the commission, because we're sick of the utility 557 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: rates going up. So Casey, now is your opportunity to shine. Yeah, 558 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: find out whatever you want from merrit so that you 559 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: can be the leader in the clubhouse to get on 560 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: this board. 561 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Jim So. 562 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: Governor Brown said that he's seeking people with entrepreneurial spirit 563 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 4: to fill these three vacancy. So what are you looking for, 564 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: mister nominator. 565 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the India Utility Regulatory Commission Nominating Committee and 566 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: I've served on it since I stepped away from the 567 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: Senate in twenty twenty. I'm Senator Bray, the President of 568 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: the Senate's appointee point. And what what I'm looking for, 569 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: and what I've always looked for is somebody that is 570 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: quite knowledgeable about utility issues, about energy issues. And you know, 571 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: in previous times we have had a hard time finding 572 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: or getting people to apply there. There has always been 573 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: maybe two or three nominees for an open vacancy and 574 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: uh and there have been several and and this time 575 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: we'll have three, including the chairman's leaving in December. And 576 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: so what I'm looking for is somebody that can listen 577 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: to all corners, listen to all and there are a 578 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: lot of voices out there when it comes to energy issues, 579 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: as well as recognizing the fact that we need all 580 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: the above strategy in this state, that being wind and 581 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 3: all in solar and nuclear and coal, and also that 582 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: has a real interest in hearing from the public. We 583 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: all talk about rates, but we also need the federal 584 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: government to participate in taking kind of the onus of 585 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: off of the off of state government so that we 586 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: can flourish. We can have different ways to offer power. 587 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: Okay, So the Secretary of Energy said that a lot 588 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: of people have expressed interest. No decisions have been made yet, 589 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: and applications are due by October fourteen. 590 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: And I think you ought to apply. I think everybody 591 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: who has an interest in the future of utilities and 592 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: power should have a position, because energy is the most 593 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: important issue right now of our time. 594 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: All right, well, we're going to expect a good word 595 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 4: from you then, yes, okay, all right, it is Kennelly Casey. 596 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: It's ninety three WIBC. 597 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: Okay, you've got some breaking news. I'm sure that the news. 598 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: We'll get to this here in a few moments of 599 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: the love. Right now. What's going on? 600 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a shooting that took place at a 601 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 4: Texas ice facility, there was a sniper allegedly firing from 602 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: a rooftop. He later died from a self inflicted gunshot. 603 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 4: This is according to Fox, and the DHS Secretary Christy 604 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 4: Nome confirms that there have been multiple fatalities and injuries. 605 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: And as you mentioned, I'm sure the news will cover 606 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: that at the top of the hour. 607 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and as information comes in on this verified information, 608 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: we'll get you up to date on that throughout the 609 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: course of the program today. So again, I'm sure the 610 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: news will have more information coming up here in just 611 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: a few moments on that horrible shooting that took place 612 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: in Texas. And again it sounds like the alleged gunman 613 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: is has been taken out, so we'll get you more 614 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: as the as news comes in. All Right, some good 615 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: news people are lining up Casey to help me with 616 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: the proposed Rob Kendall Lincoln Day dinner. If you've missed this, 617 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: there's been an outcry of rage at the Hendricks County 618 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Republicans for banning me from their Lincoln Day dinner because 619 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: they knew I was going to ask politicians in a polite, 620 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: law abiding fashion questions that they don't want to answer 621 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: in the party doesn't want to answer, like who paid 622 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: for your mysterious ten day trip to India and don't 623 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: say I did it with the Indiana Secretary of Saint 624 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: Diego Braus. So instead of just holding the politicians accountable 625 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: and saying, you know what, Rob's right, you really should, 626 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, be honest and trustworthy and transparent, they just 627 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: banned me from the event. And now they've created a 628 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: monster because people have said you, including Tony Katz this morning, 629 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: who said Rob must host his own Linked Day. I said, okay, 630 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: I'll consider it. Now I have somebody reaching out, tons 631 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: of people reaching out, but somebody who has a lot 632 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: of experience planning political events for Governor Daniels amongst others, 633 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: that I will organize this for you. So look, I 634 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: gotta get a few days to give my head around this. Sure, 635 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup starts Friday, so no thinking between Friday and 636 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: Sunday evening. But I'm off Monday too, so Maoby, I'll spend. 637 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: A great Monday afternoon time Monday put. 638 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: All this together. Speaking of which, the Lincoln Day when 639 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: we come back, I'm going to give an abbreviated version 640 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: of a Lincoln Day speech that might entice people to say, 641 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: want the I want the hardcore version. I'm willing to 642 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: pay to see the hardcore version. I'll give a I'll 643 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: give this sort of speech. I'd give it the hinders 644 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: Kenny Lincoln Day if I were allowed to attend, if 645 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: they actually cared about things like freedom of speech. 646 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: I did get day preview of the speech, and you 647 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 4: have one line in there that I absolutely love, so 648 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: I really want you to put some emphasis on it. 649 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: Truth and honesty is the theme of the speech. We'll 650 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: talk about it coming up next. 651 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: Kennie Casey ninety three W I B C.