1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: It's never the law, it's never the act. It's the 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: cover up. Oh okay, you know that's the famous thing, right, 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: you know. It's never the crime. It's the cover up 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: that gets people in trouble. And boy, howdy, look, if 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: you're telling the truth, you never have to remember it, 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: right yeah, because it comes natural to you. It's kind 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: of a Casey show. I'm Rob That's Casey. And the 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: big story yesterday was, of course, we had Aaron Sheridan, 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: a former senior advisor to the Lieutenant Governor Mica beck 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: With on our program who described in great detail seeing 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: the artificial pornography artificial intelligence pornography being shared in the 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor's office. Correct, And I think the two major 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: takeaways from that from her allegation, other than seeing it 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: and being shared in a fashion, who was sharing it? 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: She claims the two individuals identified in the Labyanco piece 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: Tom Mobianco, the freelance writer who broke this story. But 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: it was that those two individuals claimed that the according 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: to her, that the Lieutenant governor knew about it, and 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: that she reported it the day after to Shay Ellis, 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Micah Beckwith's chief of staff. Right now, people it's fascinating 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: to see a part of this, and it happens in 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: politics a lot, is that we get so invested in 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: people that we will never believe anything bad about them, 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: Like there's some mental block where we just don't allow 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: ourselves to believe, because then we would be we would 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: be flawed, we would be admitting our own flaws. And 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: so many people, especially with politics, there's such an emotional 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: investment in people, they just simply can't bring themselves to 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: believe that. 30 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: Well, you see with Donald Trump all the time. 31 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: And when you take what Aaron Sheridan told us, it's 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: one thing for her to tell it to me, like 33 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, offline source whatever. It's another thing for her 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: to tell stories to even to law enforcement. It's a 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: third thing to go on these public airwaves in great 36 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: detail with her name behind it and tell the story right. 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: And then she told essentially and even much greater detail 38 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: to Abduel, which some very interesting things came out of 39 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: that as well, because he went further than just what 40 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: our thing they had the time. Yeah, our focus was 41 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: just this artificial intelligence video allegedly being shared, but the 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: two so you have to after hearing that yesterday as 43 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: a reasonable person, not some loyalist to one side or another, 44 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: not somebody who hates or loves politicians. But you, as 45 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: an individual freethinker, if you heard that interview yesterday, to 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: say to yourself, either this woman is a absolute narcissistic, sociopathic, 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: path logical liar, somebody who's never sought the spotlight, somebody 48 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: who's never run for public office, that this woman is 49 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: a level that she needs to be institutionalized, or she's 50 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: telling you the truth right. 51 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: This is a state employee, someone who doesn't have broadcasting training, 52 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: who or. 53 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't want it, doesn't want the spotlight. 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 2: Not a media personality. 55 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: And I just I think you got to make a 56 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: giant leap in the level of detail in which she 57 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: described that yesterday with her name on it, described it 58 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: to a duel that and you know has cooperated fully 59 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: with the authorities, that this woman, there's just I just 60 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: can't see what would be in it for her to 61 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: have made it all up. It's caused her all sorts 62 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: of grief, all sorts of drama, all sorts of legal expenses. 63 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: She's had to have legal counsel as she's part to 64 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: sipated with law enforcement. Why would that person do it, okay, 65 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: So then it becomes the pivot, right because when you 66 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: say that, a lot of people got to go, well, 67 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: you know what, you're right? Then the pivot is what 68 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: this isn't even a big deal. I can't even believe 69 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: it's a thing, okay, But the fact is the Indiana 70 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: General Assembly thought it was a big enough thing that 71 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: they passed a law about it. So if you don't 72 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: like that, take it up with them. And to me, 73 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: it isn't even the thing. It's the pattern of deceptive, 74 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: dishonest behavior from the Lieutenant governor, which we have laid 75 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: out in irrefutable fashion time after time after time after time. 76 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: So it comes to today in which Tony Katz reached 77 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: out to the Lieutenant governor about Aaron Sheridan's statements yesterday 78 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: on our program. And remember, like we said, if you're 79 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: telling the truth, you never have to remember anything because 80 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: it's the truth, and it's usually not the act. It's 81 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: the cover up that gets people in trouble. So here 82 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: is what Micah said to Tony Katz, and he I 83 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: think revealed this on his program this morning. He said 84 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: we could share the quote. Here's what he said, and 85 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: this is the quote verbatim. I don't like you. That's 86 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: how he started his answer to Tony Katz. 87 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: I don't like you. 88 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: How pastoral of you, Micah. I don't like you. You're 89 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: incredibly arrogant, and I think you just like to hear 90 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: the sound of your own voice. That was how he 91 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: started his quote to Tony Katz about artificial intelligence pornography 92 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: allegedly being shared in his office. I don't like you, 93 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, unlike us because I had the source has 94 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: been way more on the side of Micah on this, 95 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: I think until yesterday when somebody came out and put 96 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: their name behind it and said, but Tony Katz is 97 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: totally defended him on this, and that's how he greets him. 98 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: I don't like you. But all that to say, I 99 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: appreciate you reaching out and asking. I don't like you. 100 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for asking, Thanks for asking. No, the video does 101 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: not exist. I never saw it, nor did I ever 102 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: laugh at it or even the idea of it. I would, 103 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: in all caps, fire anyone immediately if that kind of 104 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: crap was ever happening in my office. And this is important. 105 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Here we go. The very first time I even heard 106 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: of the alleged video was late summer when the reporter 107 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: reached out to me saying he talked to Aaron about 108 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: this video. Okay, that's very important. This quote is very important. 109 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it to you again. The very first 110 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: time I even heard of the alleged video was late summer, 111 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: when the reporter reached out to me saying he talked 112 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: to Aaron about this video. Now, Tom Labianco is a 113 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: national reporter, He's been at this for a very long time. 114 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: And I read that and I thought there is zero way. 115 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: Leabbianco called him and was like, Hey, Aaron Sheridan told 116 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: me this. What say you? 117 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, He's not going to reveal his source. 118 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: So I reached out to Tom and I said, hey, Tom, 119 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: here's Micah's quote. Is this accurate? Did you reveal Aaron 120 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: Sheridan as a source? And did you tell tell Micah 121 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: that when you reached out about the story. Here is 122 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: Tom Lobbianco's quote that he said we can repeat on 123 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: this radio program. 124 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: Sure. 125 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Micah Beckwick told me he learned about the deep fake 126 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: video from a treasurer's office employee. Now he names the person. 127 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: We're not going to name this person. Here but this 128 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: person was working in the State Treasurer's office at the time. 129 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: Let me repeat that. Micah Beckwittt told me he learned 130 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: about the deep fake video from a Treasure's office employee. 131 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: When I spoke to him for the story, I never 132 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: told him how I learned about the deep fake porn 133 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: his staff watched. I don't know why he's making stuff up, 134 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: but I'm used to that. At this point. I'm still 135 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: waiting for the results of his internal investigation, which I 136 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: filed a public records request for. So, as we've told 137 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: you on this program, you can either believe the person 138 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: who has nothing to gain by any of this. She's 139 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: admitted by her telling her story she will probably never 140 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: ever be able to be hired in state government ever again, 141 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: it's cost her great financial and personal sacrifice, and has 142 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: no history of lying whatsoever. Or you can believe this 143 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: guy with everything to lose, who we on the program 144 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: have caught in one lie after another and at best, 145 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: at best giving him every benefit of the doubt. They 146 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: were statements that were completely inconsistent with the facts as 147 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: we know it. And here is another one in which 148 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: Tom Labianco, the reporter, is telling us what Micah told him, 149 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: and he's the complete opposite of what he just told 150 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. 151 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's two different names. Who did he actually 152 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: hear about this from? He's claiming you heard it from Aaron? 153 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: And how many times do you have to be caught 154 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: in lie after lie after life before you see this 155 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: isn't innocent. This isn't just some guy who got confused 156 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: one time. Okay, sure, maybe even two. But from this 157 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: event to how he ended up at Game three of 158 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals with Diego and a high profile known felon, 159 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: this guy cannot tell a consistent, coherent, verifiable story. You 160 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: decide who's telling the truth. 161 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: It's Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three u IBC. 162 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So Brawn is threatening to pull the license of 163 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: teachers related to their online conducts re guarding the assassination 164 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk. 165 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, he emphasized that educators are held to a higher 166 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: standard due to their influence over youth. 167 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So, Braun obviously is the governor of the state 168 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: of Indiana. I should clarify that. I assume most people 169 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: know that, but maybe not right. Mike Braun is the 170 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: governor of the State of Indiana and Indiana Capitol Chronicle, 171 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: amongst others, have this big article about how there are 172 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: teachers who have allegedly, you know, put things up that 173 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: are just you know, celebrating in line with other people 174 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: who have made horrendous statements online. But the death of 175 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, many of those people have been their employers 176 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: have been contacted, they've been fired from their jobs, and 177 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: now the governor is coming out and threatened to do 178 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: the same to these people through revoking their teaching license. Now, traditionally, 179 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: license revocation from a teacher not firing you from a 180 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: position at the school. We're not talking about this. We're 181 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: talking about like pulling your license, which would greatly limit 182 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: your ability to or not just out and out stop 183 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: your ability in most cases to get a teaching job 184 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: right anywhere. This is Previously, license revocation has related to 185 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: criminal behavior, like you know, you're convicted of a crime 186 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: and we can't have you in the classrooms. 187 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, criminal acts or serious miscontact. 188 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Right, So the question is what is the line to 189 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: get for online commentary on the death of Charlie Kirk, 190 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and why does braun arbitrarily 191 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: get to the side that like what like what statement 192 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: is the tipping point? And how do you know it? 193 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: Is it like what you know? Supreme Court Justice once said, 194 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: I can't define pornography, but I know it when. 195 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: I see it. 196 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: Like, where are we at with this? And is this 197 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,479 Speaker 1: how we want to police educators? 198 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: So Indiana law allows license revocation for immorality, misconduct, and 199 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 3: office and competency willful neglect of duty. The term immorality 200 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 3: is undefined, so that leaves room for some interpretation. Yeah, 201 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 3: you're saying, if you are celebrating violence, is that immoral? 202 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: And well, and I would tend to say yes. However, 203 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: this is where I get very hesitant on this, especially 204 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: when you have people like Pambondi, the Attorney General for 205 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: the United States, coming out threatening to crackdown on people. Look, 206 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: I said very clearly, very specifically that these people who 207 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: are celebrating online violence no sympathy for him. You're going 208 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: to be stupid enough to put it on the internet. 209 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: You run the risk of people the you know, society 210 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: policing itself, and if your employer, if you're not worth 211 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: the juice, is not worth the squeeze out of here, 212 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: and I don't have any sympathy for those people. Yeah, However, 213 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: I've also said that I think that politicians who are 214 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: using Charlie Kirk's assassination for political benefit, Ie people are advocating, oh, 215 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: we must now redistrict. It's also gross, right, So am 216 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: I in the speech police category? Am I potentially going 217 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: to run a foul because I've been critical of people 218 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: who are using Charlie Kirk's assassination for political benefit, Like 219 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: where is the line? 220 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 3: Well, that's the problem. The target is moving, isn't it 221 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: in real time? In real time and every day? 222 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: Right? And so that is And look, these are state employees. 223 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: I mean they're government employees. They're employed by the school district, 224 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: but they're you know, the public retirement system, et cetera. 225 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: They are paid by taxpayers. So you see what I'm 226 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: struggling with, Like, I don't I don't have a problem 227 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: with somebody is advocating for violence on the internet as 228 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: a state employee, Hey, you're out of here, or you know, 229 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: as a public employee, you're out of here. But what 230 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: is the line of which we are willing to tolerate? 231 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: Can you be critical of Charlie Kirk in any shape, 232 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: form or fashion without running the risk of potentially being 233 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: fired for doing so. 234 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: No, I think that's that is the risk. 235 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: You're going to face consequences for that. So you have 236 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: to determine, as you put something out on the internet, 237 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: is it worth it? 238 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: Am I standing behind this statement enough to lose my job? 239 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Well? And so that's the become full circle in this 240 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: How bad do you need to be seen on the internet? Right? Like? 241 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: You and I joke about this all the time. There's 242 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: a million things I'd love to say on this radio 243 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: program that if I had my own podcast separate of 244 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: our employer, I would absolutely say. But I also recognize 245 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: that I am a reflection of my employer. And while 246 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: they give me a lot of leeway and they're very 247 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: kind and stand behind me, after almost twenty five years 248 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: in this business, I know where the line is of 249 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: what they wouldn't stand behind, and I don't ever cross it. 250 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: You walk right up to it. 251 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: But I know that's part of being a highly trained professional, 252 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: right is knowing where that is and not and not 253 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: crossing it. And so I don't need to be seen 254 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: on the internet up to risk losing my job. And 255 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: if I can figure it out, then educators, people who 256 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: are dealing with kids every day should be able to 257 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: figure it out too. So I kind of to de 258 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: fall to. I don't really have any sympathy for them either, 259 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: other than I want to know where the line is, 260 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: because we're getting once we have the government involved, we 261 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: get very close to thought police stuff. See you see 262 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: where it's like this whole it's the Dave Mason song 263 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: right like it's like it's it's the land of confusion here. 264 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: That's genesis. 265 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: That's genesis, thank you. 266 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: It is. 267 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: It's an intersection of free speech, free speech and professional 268 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: standards and also public accountability. I think we're all working 269 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: through this together in real time because it's moving, and are. 270 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: We done with when it's the death of Charlie Kirk, 271 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: are we over and done with it? Or what is 272 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: the next thing that then we will say, you can't 273 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: be critical of blank and and so I just think 274 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: it's a broader conversation, and you hit the nail on 275 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: the head, casey. The problem is it's moving in real time, 276 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: the standard, the whatever, and when things are moving in 277 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: real time, they can move really fast. 278 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: Yes they can, and that line moves. 279 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: But somebody also made a good point, and I think 280 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: this is fair. Cancel culture is digging up a tweet 281 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: from when somebody was sixteen years old or some statement 282 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: somebody made, you know, when they were, you know, twenty 283 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: years old, you know, ten years on, and trying to 284 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: get them fired because of that. This isn't that is 285 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: not happening here. 286 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: This is consequence. 287 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: This is this is yes, yes, that's right. This is 288 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: different because it is statements people as adults are making 289 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: in real time. So just don't give people a reason 290 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: right now until we figure out where it's at, where 291 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: the line is. 292 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: And that's that's also scary as well, because now what 293 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: you're you're silencing yourself. 294 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: Well but if you really want your job, I silence 295 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: myself every day, Casey, every day. You know who should 296 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: never be silenced is the great Jarrett Lewis, newsman extraordinary. 297 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: He's up next on ninety three WIBC. 298 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 4: Dirty D yay go oh, dirty dyay go oh, dirty 299 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 4: D go oh, dirty D yay go oh. 300 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: So you know it's bad when we got to be 301 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: team Destiny, Wells. 302 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: Gotta give her props for this one. 303 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's Kettley Casey so I'm rob. That's Casey. 304 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: Diego Morales is the Indiana Secretary of State. Our nickname 305 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: for him is Dirty Diego because he's a dirty, rotten, unethical, 306 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: corrupt individual and he regularly just uses and abuses that 307 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: position for his own benefit. See a mysterious ten day 308 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: trip to a foreign country, in this case India, going 309 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: with a guy with an eighty thousand dollars contract with 310 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: his office where he won't tell you what the guy does. 311 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: And that same guy that is bragging about selling visa 312 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: access in the same city that Diego met with the mayor, 313 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: according to the Indie Star. And then when Diego gets 314 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: asked too for his trip to India, he won't tell 315 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: you and then comes up with some ridiculous story that 316 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: he paid the money back but won't show you any 317 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: proof of that. That seems to check all those boxes 318 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: I just described, right, And that's just one example. So 319 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: we have a creed on this show, you know, a 320 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: life mission if you will that at any and all 321 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: opportunities to crap all over Diego Morales, the Secretary of State, 322 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: we will absolutely take and exploit that opportunity. 323 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: And in this case, he gave us the opportunity. 324 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, well you open the door. Because Diego has 325 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: had some questionable hires, paying some questionable money for those 326 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: hires in his office. And his excuse when he gets 327 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: pressed on it, whether it's his brother in law others, 328 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: is I hire the best, right he pounds his to 329 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: I hire the best in my office. So when the 330 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: best makes a ridiculous mistake, we're going to point out 331 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: how the best the taskers aren't getting their money for 332 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: the best. So, so Destiny Wells Is I've been a well, 333 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, how would we describe her on this show? 334 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: We've taken our opportunities to point out how ridiculous she is. 335 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: She's a at least a two time failed candidate for 336 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: public office. She lost resoundingly running against Diego in twenty two, 337 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: and then lost resoundingly running against Todd Rokita in twenty four, 338 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: and then she tried to become the Democrat state Party 339 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: chair and lost that one too, So she's one loss 340 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: away from becoming the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, politics and government. 341 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, the Buffalo Bills lost four 342 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: consecutive Super Bowls in the nineties. But in this case, yeah, 343 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: she was spot on and pointed out how ridiculous Diego 344 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: and his staff actually are. 345 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: So yesterday, the Secretary of State, Diego Morales posted Happy 346 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: seventy eighth birthday to the US Air Force, thank you 347 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: for protecting our country. That's nice, yes, but there's a 348 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: picture attached. In the picture, it's got some graphics. It 349 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: says happy birthday US air Force, and there is a 350 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: picture of a plane. On the bottom there's the Secretary 351 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: of State seal Oh, and then of course it has 352 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: his name, Diego Morales, Indiana Secretary of State. Is this 353 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: happy birthday message to the US Air Force was brought 354 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 3: to you by Indiana Secretary of State? 355 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: So wait, wait, like he was a member of the 356 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: air Force. Is that why he's No, it's it's just 357 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: a picture. He's just trying to get you to think 358 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: that he's somehow engaged with the US Air. 359 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: Force, just wishing them happy birthday. 360 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: You know, manipulation is a strong word, but he's trying 361 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: to get you to think he's trying to associate his 362 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: name with the Air Force. 363 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: So Destiny Wells, who recently updated her profile pick by 364 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: the way, Oh, I don't know if that means she's 365 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 3: about ready to announce another run for something, but she 366 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: commented that's a retired Tomcat like top gun dude as 367 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: in dot dot Dot Navy the best. 368 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: Can't even post the right picture on Twitter. 369 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 3: Apparently this isn't the first time this has happened with 370 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: our elected officials. Todd Roketa made a mishap similar to 371 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: this when he was wishing the US Navy Happy Birthday 372 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: back in twenty two and his picture was featuring Russian warships. 373 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Well. No, in fairness to roked a lot of times 374 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: he can't keep people more than six months because he's 375 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: such an ass to work for, which has been laid 376 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: out in Politico and other places. But in the case 377 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: of Diego, this is especially agreed just because he always 378 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: touts his military. He's in a military Well, there's a 379 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: photo of him appearing to be in the military now. 380 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: His Wikipedia page claims quote he was enlisted in the 381 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: United States Army in two thousand and seven, where he 382 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: was on active duty for three months. In eighteen days, 383 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: he transferred to the Indiana National Guard, but did not 384 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: complete the eight year commitment. So, as someone who's so 385 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: proud of their military service and brags about it all 386 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: the time. By the way, has anybody ever seen a 387 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: military photo of Diego other than that one photo? Is 388 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: any I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm just asking 389 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: as any person. You can contact us at Robin Kendall 390 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: on two Twitter, rob at WIBC dot com if anybody's 391 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: seen a military photo of because you know lots of guys. Yeah, like, 392 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: for example, my neighbor, Firement Scott, was a decorated member 393 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: of the military. He showed me all sorts of photos 394 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: of him in combat and with his troops and all 395 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: sorts of things. Has anybody ever seen those photos of 396 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: Diego Morales, which would be pretty commonplace for someone who 397 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: has served in the military. 398 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: What was it was? Three years? 399 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: No, three months and eighteen days according to Wikipedia page. Now, okay, 400 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: so my question is for somebody who is so proud 401 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: of their military service and such a military expert, and 402 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: who I hired the best? 403 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: Right? 404 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say this is probably someone 405 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: on his staff, but. 406 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: He hires the best. 407 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: Who put this picture up? 408 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: Now? What happened to the best? Because now, as a 409 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: member of the military, a decorated, esteemed member of the military, Diego, 410 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: no doubt you would be enraged that someone would make 411 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: such an egregious mistake. I'd love to know what happened 412 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: to the best for this huge faux pas. 413 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: The best made a mistake. 414 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: We be smirching our military across the greater fruited plane. 415 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: You want to know what happened? Nothing? Nothing, because nothing 416 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: ever happens anyway, What else are we talking about it? 417 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: The sentiment is true, though, Happy seventy eighth birthday to 418 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: the US Air Force. 419 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: All right, talk to me about these voter centers. 420 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So vote centers have come about. I think the 421 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: really big cume popular for the last ten years in 422 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana because what our state recognized is, 423 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: especially in the low turnout elections, we have what they 424 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: call vote precincts. Right. You remember in your town, you 425 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: vote at this church or that rec center whatever, and 426 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: you have to pay people to man all of these locations. 427 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: And you know, you may have a municipal election where 428 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: a thousand people vote and you got ten centers, and 429 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: you got five people at every vote center. It's like, 430 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: do we really need fifty paid employees to manage, you know, 431 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: an election where one thousand people are participating. So what 432 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: they did is they went to these idea of votes center. 433 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: A lot of counties have gone to these idea of 434 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: vote centers because you put everybody at one hub. So 435 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: instead of having ten locations in your community, you might 436 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: have one larger place with just three places where you 437 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: could two vote centers or three vote centers in a community. 438 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: And you have to have a lot fewer people manning 439 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: the polls. You have to have a lot fewer workers. 440 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: It is a huge saving to the taxpayers. And what 441 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: they've also started doing is, let's you know, I live 442 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: in Brownsburg, but the vote centers will contain every ballot 443 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: in your county, so you walk in, I could go 444 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: to Plainfield. They've got a vote center there. They got 445 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: one in every town in the county. Show your ID. Okay, 446 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: Rob Kendall, you live at SO and so, here's your ballot, 447 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: and it will match the ballot perfectly, and that ballot 448 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: is tabulated the same as it would be anywhere else. 449 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: It's a great idea if you actually give a dam 450 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: about the taxpayers. I don't want to save the money, 451 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: but it also would make it easier to vote because 452 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: people can stop in anywhere anytime, and a lot of 453 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: places see Hamilton County don't want that because they depend 454 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: on low voter turnout. 455 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: So as of right now, sixty eight of Indiana's ninety 456 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: two counties have adopted the vote center model, and a 457 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: survey show that sixty percent of the people do support 458 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: the vote center model, except for like you mentioned, in 459 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: Hamilton County, their election board failed to reach the unanimous 460 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: vote required to adopt the county wide vote center models. 461 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: So they're not going to be doing that then, right. 462 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: So it generally takes a unanimous vote to move items 463 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: forward on anything related to elections in a county. The 464 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: elections are generally in the state of Indiana. While there 465 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: are state requirements voter ide et cetera, the counties administer 466 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: their own elections and there is one person from each 467 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: political party on the three person board, and any of 468 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: the parties would have veto And so in this case 469 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: there at Publicans because they don't want these vote centers 470 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: in Hamlet County because it would make it easier for 471 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: people to vote, and they depend on because they're so 472 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: poorly governed, and the Republicans so poorly governed, the more 473 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: people would turn out, the worst it would be for them. 474 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: That They don't want these vote centers, and they want 475 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: you to just keep paying out the ass for these 476 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: municipal elections that nine people vote. 477 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: In Delaware County. They recently approved the switch to the 478 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: vote center model. It is Kendally Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 479 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: Those National Republicans, it's like, you know the old thing. 480 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: Pay no attention to what the hand is doing up here. 481 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: You got to pay attention to the hand under the table. 482 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: Right, don't look over here. 483 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: And Indiana is learning the hard way. Now we're totally 484 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: subservient to these people. Our governor Mike Brown has admitted 485 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: he's petrified of the Trump administration. 486 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: Well there will be consequences if we don't redistrict. 487 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: Well, there just were big consequences. And you know, these Republicans, 488 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: in the National Republicans, they always espouse these ideas of 489 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, limited government and low taxes and making people 490 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: go to work and the execution. They're good at taking 491 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: their reservation and they're just not gold as Seinfeld once said, Uh, 492 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: and this is just another example, and this is what 493 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: always blows my mind. Why people are just just no 494 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: matter how many times they get screwed, they just keep 495 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: just give it to me again, right, give me some 496 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: more of that. They just won't accept. These Republicans are 497 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: just such rotten, disgusting liars that it is not what 498 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: they say, it's what they do. And what they do 499 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: is they just lie and screw you over time and 500 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: time and time again. So here's what we're talking about. 501 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: So the state of Indiana has a crisis related to Medicaid, 502 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: and you can think, uh, locked governor, lockdown McGee. The 503 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: predecessor Eric Holcom, who maliciously at this point, I will 504 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: say and and and I mean he was in a 505 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: predatory fashion, wanted you to believe he could shut our 506 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: society down and you wouldn't any ramifications of that because 507 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: he put his power pants on. And obviously they figured 508 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: out wolf people are impacted to a certain level, they 509 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: won't stand for it. And so they gave away as 510 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: many quote unquote freebies as they possibly could to try 511 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: to deflect the damage he and other people were doing 512 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: to our our state. And one of those was they 513 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: enrolled a massive amount of people on Medicaid, Healthy Indiana, 514 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, to try to make 515 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: you believe that he could you could lose your job 516 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: but you wouldn't have any you know, health ramifications, insurance, 517 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: et cetera. Obviously, lose your job, you lose your insurance. 518 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: But hey, we got you. It's good. Don't worry about 519 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: Everything's could be fine. And so they dumped all these 520 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: able bodied people who should have been out working because 521 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: COVID for ninety percent of the population would have been 522 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: it was a mere nuisance. Right, Hey, I got the thing. 523 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm sick for a week. I'll be you know, I'll 524 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: be back. 525 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: Right. 526 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: That's ninety percent of people that were fine, kind of 527 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: like the flu. Yeah, right, right, casey. And so what's 528 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: fascinating is, you know, and there were certainly people who 529 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: were at very high risk, people who tragically passed away, 530 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: but we basically identified those people about three weeks in. 531 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: And those people should have taken precautions. In the rest 532 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: of us who got COVID and were fine, just could 533 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: have gone about our you know, merry lives. And so 534 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: Indiana dumped all these able bodied people onto the medicaid rules. 535 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: And now they've not only had to pull those people 536 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: out off or try to, but they they've reached a 537 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: financial crisis point as a part of this because they 538 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: don't have the money to pay for all these people 539 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: to be on this thing. Now that the federal bribery 540 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: is such a strong word, the federal subsidies have changed 541 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: and have limited, and so they have come in and 542 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: they attempted to say, hey, starting next year, we're going 543 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: to make huge changes to who's eligible and how you 544 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: can get on, which should be right in line with 545 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: spoused Republican principles. Hey, fatty, get off the sofa and 546 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: go to work. If you can walk, if you can lift, 547 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: if you can participate, if you're not disabled, then go 548 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: to work and get your insurance through an employer. 549 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the work requirements were set to begin in July 550 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: of twenty six, but now there have been some delays 551 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: and it's not going to happen into what twenty seven, right, 552 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: So what. 553 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: The federal government came in and says, ah, you're trying 554 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: to be too accountable. Now, you might ask yourself, now, 555 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: why would a Trump administration, a Trump federal government come 556 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: in and say, no, you're trying to be too accountable. 557 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: You're trying to make people go to work and earn 558 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: a living. You can't do that. And the answer is 559 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 1: what happens next? To your casey, there's a midterm election, 560 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: and the Republicans in Washington, Donald Trump at all, don't 561 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: want people losing the freebies before they go vote in 562 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: the midterms because they don't actually care about accountable government. 563 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: They don't actually care about getting spending under control. Guess 564 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: what you're about, that's right, And they know, especially if 565 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: they're about to screw the maps and screw you with 566 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: these new maps, they want these congressional seats and they 567 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: do not want pissed off people. So once again the 568 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: Republicans approved. You can't believe a damn word that comes 569 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: out of their mouth that you gotta look at the actions. 570 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 3: Medicaid spending in Indiana projected to grow from two point 571 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: one billion in twenty seventeen to nearly five billion by 572 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. 573 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: You know it's the next hour we'll get it is. 574 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: I had a long conversation last night with a friend 575 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: who has worked many, many years in state government, and 576 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: he made a great point about why we keep getting 577 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: such rotten people and rotten policies running our local governments, 578 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: running our state governments, the federal government. And I was 579 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: taken aback when he told me this. I thought, boy, 580 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: you are absolutely correct about this. But it's like this 581 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: conversation we keep having where everybody wants to make us 582 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: out to be the bad guy for pointing out what 583 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: you're elected officials are doing. We didn't do this, we wholeheartedly. 584 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't mean to speak for you, Casey, but I 585 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: you agree. We should absolutely have every able bodied person 586 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: who can work going to work. And we support Indiana 587 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: doing whatever they can getting those people off the dole 588 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: and going to work and earning and paying their own way. 589 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: And yet the Republicans in Washington are preventing that. But 590 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: I guarantee you there's somebody mad at me right now 591 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 1: because I was critical of Donald Trump. I guarantee you 592 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: some person got mad and turned the radio off because 593 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: I told you the truth about what Trump is doing. 594 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: State Budget Committee's going to reconvene in late October to 595 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: continued discussions. 596 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: Those are the next steps. You're listening to Kendall and Casey. 597 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: It is ninety three wibcs