1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sure is. Senator. 4 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: You mentioned that I know that you want to let 5 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: law enforcement take the lead here, but you just mentioned 6 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: that you believe that this individual had some kind of 7 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: grievance not even related to the school. 8 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you can share? Not really. 9 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 4: I just think that they have to get to the 10 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 4: bottom of this. As you know, with these scenes from 11 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 4: covering so many of them, that they'll be rumors and 12 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 4: then they're not true and then you figure it out. 13 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 4: But I think this image of this gunman shooting through 14 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: these windows, picking off these kids while they're praying is 15 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 4: something that's going to be with people for a long 16 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 4: time when you think about guns and you think about 17 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 4: as the mayor said, thoughts and prayers just aren't enough 18 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: here right now because these kids were actually praying. 19 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to listen to that. 20 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: I want to share with you how twisted that is. 21 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: This is what that was? 22 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 5: His name? 23 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: Brad Krossenstein? Is that his name? Brad? I don't know. 24 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 6: His name might as well be scumbag McGee. Brian Krassenstein, 25 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 6: who put out immediately after this a church just got 26 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 6: shot up. A praying isn't working? Tony Katz. Tony Katz 27 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 6: today me for a moment to share a story. First, 28 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 6: some background. The background is that there was a shooting 29 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 6: that took place at a Catholic school in Minneapolis. This 30 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 6: is the Annunciation Catholic School. It was during mass Seventeen 31 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 6: children shot. Two have been killed. Seven at last counts 32 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 6: were in serious condition at local area hospitals. The shooter 33 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 6: took their own life. There is a tremendous amount of 34 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 6: information about the shooter that's out there on social media, 35 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 6: some from sources I very much trust, including. 36 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: People who are former law enforcement. 37 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 6: When I say I trust them, I do, But holding 38 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 6: to my own standard, I'm waiting for some other confirmations 39 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 6: before i start getting into who I believe this shooter is. 40 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 6: The senator that you just heard there, Amy Klobachar, who 41 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 6: has already come out and said, well, this is about guns. 42 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 6: She doesn't know what this is about out, But when 43 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 6: you are a progressive and you are so twisted, you'll 44 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 6: say anything which leads us to again what it is 45 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 6: she just said here with the question being asked by 46 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 6: CNN anchored Nanabash. 47 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: It sure is. 48 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: Senator you mentioned that I know that you want to 49 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: let law enforcement take the lead here, but you just 50 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: mentioned that you believe that this individual had some kind 51 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: of grievance not even related to the school. 52 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you can share? Not really. 53 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: I just think that they have to get to the 54 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: bottom of this. As you know, with these scenes from 55 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: covering so many of them, that they'll be rumors and 56 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: then they're not true, and then you figure it out. 57 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: But I think this image of this gunman shooting through 58 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: these windows, picking off these kids while they're praying is 59 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: something that's going to be with people for a long 60 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: time when you think about guns and you think about 61 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: as the mayor said, and prayers just aren't enough here 62 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: right now. 63 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: Because these kids were actually praying. 64 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 6: The level of evil in that statement, the level of 65 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 6: wrong in that statement, the level of a total lack 66 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 6: of soul in that statement, just like Brian Krassenstein, Senator Klobuchar, 67 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 6: there's that leaves you a very special place in hell. 68 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 6: Doesn't leave you the same place as this shooter. Probably not, 69 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 6: but it's just pure evil. 70 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: Prayer doesn't work, I tell you now. 71 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 6: The following story, the extent to which I'm not even 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 6: sure if I'm allowed to tell, but this happened here locally. 73 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 6: It's involved a friend of mine. The story goes that 74 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 6: a young girl the age of five is driving with 75 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 6: her grandmother, who has been in care of the girl 76 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 6: since the girl's mother was killed, and the grandmother gets 77 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 6: into an accident and dies. This has been a reported story. 78 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 6: I'm not sharing any information there that I can't share. 79 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 6: Was it a medical issue or something else, I don't know, 80 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 6: But the force of the accident was so great that 81 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 6: the vehicle itself was absolutely unrecognizable. A local er doctor, 82 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 6: a friend of mine, happened to be driving by and 83 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 6: with the help of somebody else, pulled this girl, amazingly 84 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 6: alive in her car seat out of the backseat. We're 85 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 6: talking about a car that was so absolutely devastated, so 86 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 6: completely torn apart, that the literal front of the car. 87 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: Was touching the girl in her car seat in the backseat. 88 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 6: Because my friend is an er doctor, he understood that 89 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 6: getting this girl out of the car was not only 90 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 6: necessary to be able to check on her. But Lord 91 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 6: only knows the level of impact here and what issues 92 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 6: there may be to the neck, to the spine, etc. 93 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 6: And through his training and through his knowledge and through 94 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 6: his years, was able to pull this girl out in 95 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 6: such a way that today was some weeks later, she's alive, 96 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 6: has the use of her extremities, eating on her own, 97 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 6: fully cognizant, cogent, and the last I knew, neurologically intact. 98 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: When I discussed this story. 99 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 6: With my Rabbi, as this was somebody who belie belong 100 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 6: to my synagogue, a conversation came up that I will divulge, 101 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 6: and I assume my Rabbi won't mind where the line 102 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 6: that was used by God put this doctor, this er doctor, 103 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 6: this friend of mine in the right place at the 104 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 6: right time, to which I responded, I'm not quite sure 105 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 6: how you do that, because where was God? Because this 106 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 6: would be the question for the accident. My Rabbi responded 107 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 6: by saying, nature could cause a health. 108 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Condition that could lead to an accident. 109 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 6: One cannot stop nature, but God can put people there 110 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 6: to help when the moment is necessary. I'm telling you 111 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 6: that is a level of heavy and a thought process 112 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 6: of which. 113 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: Has stuck. 114 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 6: This has been weeks, and I don't think that there 115 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 6: is a day that has gone by that I have 116 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 6: not thought of that. 117 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: You know. 118 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 6: I find myself thinking of Christopher Hitchins often in his 119 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 6: level of intellect and his level of not only well read, 120 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 6: but being able to have a remarkable recall of the data, 121 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 6: and his commentaries on God and how religion makes otherwise 122 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 6: good people do absolutely horrific things. And I have seen 123 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 6: that happen, and I have now seen certainly I shouldn't 124 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 6: say now, but I've seen over the years, and certainly 125 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 6: this commentary. 126 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: The idea of faith in general. 127 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 6: How is it possible that the guy perfectly trained for 128 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 6: the moment was in the place in the time. Well, 129 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 6: it's coincidence. Maybe maybe maybe. What I have found myself 130 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 6: saying about Christopher Hitchens is that I do not know 131 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 6: if he is right in his conversations about religion. But 132 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 6: he ain't wrong in engaging the conversation so openly and 133 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 6: so directly, and so clearly, and with such focus, and 134 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 6: with such historical perspective and accuracy, the likes of which 135 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 6: that the counter so absolutely pales in comparison. 136 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: But I do not know if my Rabbi is so wrong. 137 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 6: That there is a difference between the two things that 138 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 6: accidents do indeed happen, and was and by the way, 139 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 6: I that is a speculation on a health episode. Did 140 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 6: that happen, because they do happen. I only look at 141 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 6: that that story from my rabbi and say to myself, 142 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 6: that is an interesting way to look at it and 143 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 6: has given me pause. 144 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: As I said every day since. 145 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 6: What I absolutely know is that the commentary of Amy 146 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 6: Klobuchar is not that of the intellectual. It is that 147 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 6: of the person devoid of any level of decency. 148 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Prayer doesn't work. 149 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 6: That has nothing to do with the situation here, nothing 150 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 6: to do with the situation. 151 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: You know, it could have worked. 152 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 6: Armed guards, maybe armed guards on the campus in that 153 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 6: spot could have stopped a shooter from shooting. Or we're 154 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 6: gonna find that there was no security at this church. 155 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 6: We're gonna find that nobody in the church was carrying 156 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 6: a firearm. Maybe that could have worked. Are we going 157 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 6: to find that the shooter stole the weapon? Are we 158 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 6: gonna find that the shooter lied like Hunter Biden did 159 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 6: to obtain the weapon? In this case, three weapons a rifle, shotgun, 160 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 6: and a pistol, all of which were used according to 161 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 6: the police reporting. 162 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have an answer for you yet. 163 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 6: But the idea that because this happened during mass prayer 164 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 6: doesn't work is so criminally insane, is so diseased and 165 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 6: so twisted and so lost and so broken of a 166 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 6: thought that one wonders how somebody could put it out 167 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 6: there when I can point you to person after person 168 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 6: after person who will tell you that the prayer works. 169 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: They believe it. They believe it. 170 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 6: They will tell you that people who have been sick 171 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 6: were now not sick, that prayers from one side of 172 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 6: the world are felt by people on the other side 173 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 6: of the world. This isn't based on anything what Amy 174 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 6: Klobuchar the Center is saying other than how can I 175 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 6: most effectively turn a screw? How can I most effectively 176 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 6: be dismissive? These people deserve to lose every election. These 177 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 6: are not good people. Whether it's Amy Klobuchar or Brian krassensein, 178 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 6: this is diseased. I have sources that I know, like 179 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 6: and trust that are explaining to me who this shooter is. 180 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: But I'm still waiting. 181 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 6: I won't share it on my own show where my 182 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 6: name sits on the shingle, because my responsibility to you, 183 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 6: I believe is so great that while it would be 184 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 6: easy to do. I'll let other people decide to be first. 185 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 6: I will make sure i'm right. Amy Klobachar doesn't hold 186 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 6: the same standard. Thank god. I am not like Amy Klobachar. 187 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 6: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. So 188 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 6: there's talk of putting the first Lady, Milania Trump, on 189 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 6: the cover of Vanity Fair, and the people over there 190 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 6: Vanity Fair are saying, I will walk out the mother 191 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 6: blanking door and half my staff will follow me. Well, 192 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 6: all right, if you want to walk out the door 193 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 6: and half your staff is going to follow you, because 194 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 6: you might put the first lady on the cover, like 195 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 6: you've done with Joe Biden, like you've done with Michelle Obama. Bye, 196 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 6: what is it? What does it matter to us if 197 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 6: you walk out the door or not. What kind of 198 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 6: person at this stage of the game is thinking that 199 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 6: there's an issue here? Trump's popular, Milani is popular. She's 200 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 6: also fashioned in a lot of ways to a lot 201 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 6: of people, and has been involved for years. She is 202 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 6: perfect for Vanity Fair. Why won't you put it on 203 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 6: the cover? Because Trump is a death spot. We are 204 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 6: not going to normalize this death spot and his wife 205 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 6: We're just not going to do it. 206 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: We're going to stand for what's right. 207 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 6: Oh well that's weird, Tony Kats, Tony Katz today, good 208 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 6: to be with you. 209 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: They will sell a tremendous amount. 210 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 6: Of of magazines, and everybody knows it. 211 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: What they will do. 212 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 6: Is somehow upset the left because the left wants to 213 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 6: deny what is happening. Isn't that exactly the story here 214 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 6: that they don't want to put Malania Trump on a 215 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 6: cover because it might make Donald Trump look normal or human. 216 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 6: And when the goal is to dehumanize so bad things happen, 217 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 6: you gotta. 218 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: Say that he's a threat to democracy. You gotta say 219 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: he's a threat to whom. 220 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 6: You gotta say he's a threat to this, he's a 221 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 6: threat to that, and that way, this call for the 222 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 6: lone wolf leads somebody to shoot him, Thank goodness. 223 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: Only in the ear. 224 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 6: But if you put her on the cover, someone might think, well, 225 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 6: she seems lovely enough. I guess he's not the devil. 226 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 6: That's not good enough. So that's why they don't put 227 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 6: him on the cover or her on the cover. But 228 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 6: if you're going to discuss who is fashion, Michelle Obama 229 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 6: has nothing on Malania Trump. And I would argue that 230 00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 6: Michelle Obama's first lady, you could you could at least 231 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 6: say that she presented something to a portion of America 232 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 6: that they had not seen. 233 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: You can, you can easily make that argument. Yeah, I 234 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: didn't say you liked her. 235 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 6: And she has been outside of of of of the 236 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 6: White House and over the last few years, I mean. 237 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: Seemingly. 238 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 6: Hateful rather hateful of her time in the White House, 239 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 6: the ability to be in this position. And it has 240 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 6: really shown in this podcast of hers that has gone nowhere, 241 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 6: and it's you would think it would have gone, you know, 242 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 6: in such in such great ways because of her name. 243 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 6: I d she's damaged herself. She was more popular than 244 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 6: Barack Obama, whom, by the way, has damaged himself greatly. 245 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 6: Milania Trump is popular. It's not really deniable. Milania Trump 246 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 6: is in many ways more popular than Donald Trump. 247 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Come on, what are we all pretending? Of course she is. 248 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 6: She sends a letter along with the President to give 249 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 6: to to Vladimir Putin stop killing the children. 250 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: And it's the view that's excoriating her for it. 251 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: What else? 252 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 6: What else is the first lady going to do? She's 253 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 6: trying to make a personal appeal. She's utilizing her pulpit 254 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 6: to be able to do just that on a human level. 255 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: What's the problem, what's the issue? That's right? 256 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 6: You can't like it or approve of it, or even 257 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 6: appreciate it because you can't view her as human because 258 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 6: if she's human, then Donald's human and you can't. 259 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: So it goes. 260 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 6: Do I think Benedy Fare will do it. I think 261 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 6: they will because it's going to create controversy. They're gonna 262 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 6: sell magazines. I don't know if they'll lose a sponsor. 263 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 6: They might lose some some subscriptions. 264 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: But hey, yeah, even the Washington Post survived it. 265 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 6: John Justice is a radio host out of Minneapolis. 266 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: He's got the latest on the shooting. There, keep it here. 267 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 6: It's Tony Kats Today. So we have this shooting in 268 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 6: Minneapolis at a Catholic school. Two children dead, seventeen injured. 269 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 6: At last report it was seven at local hospitals. That 270 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 6: number could have gone up. Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, 271 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 6: Good to be with you. John Justice joins me right now, 272 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 6: a radio host on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven 273 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 6: thirty FM one oh three point five in Minneapolis does 274 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 6: a morning show there. We've known each other coming up 275 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: in radio for years, and you had just gotten off 276 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 6: the air, heard about this story, and immediately for your 277 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 6: local audience, preempted your programming, got back on the air. 278 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: Walk me through it. John. 279 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 6: We've heard from your mayor, Jacob Pray, we heard from 280 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 6: your police chief Brian O'Hara. Give us the latest as 281 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 6: you know of what's going on there in Minneapolis. 282 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: Well, if you'll allow me, we do have a suspect 283 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 5: who's been identified according to Alpha News. If you'd like 284 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 5: me to share that with your with your audience. 285 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 6: We will get to that in one second. I've been 286 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 6: holding off because I wanted the confirmation. I have no 287 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 6: problem with you giving it occcene sources I know like 288 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 6: in trust with this, but I really wanted to make 289 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 6: sure I had it. So let's start with the what 290 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 6: happened as you heard it and what as we. 291 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: Know right now. 292 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: So we were in the middle of doing the show, 293 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 5: and almost instantly, right around eight thirty five, I began 294 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 5: to hear from my listeners, who know people contacting me 295 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 5: online through x that they were getting reports of multiple 296 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 5: whole law enforcement agencies descending on an undisclosed location in 297 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 5: south of Minneapolis. And I want to stress that we 298 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 5: had spent the show, a portion of the show talking 299 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 5: about a separate mass shooting event in which some six 300 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 5: or seven people were shot yesterday in the afternoon. I 301 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 5: think that resulted in one depth, but they were calling 302 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 5: a mass shooting. So we had a circumstance already where 303 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 5: law enforcement, which has already stretchedin in Minneapols because we 304 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 5: don't have nearly enough cops, were already stretched spin. So 305 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 5: there was a lot of sort of confusion when the 306 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: reports first started coming out, because we were already talking 307 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: about a mass shooting. And then I began getting the 308 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 5: reports of what we ended up the gearing, and that 309 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 5: was some twenty individuals involved in the shooting. And it 310 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 5: was probably shortly after nine o'clock, Tony, that we began 311 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 5: to really get the details of this taking place at 312 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 5: a Catholic school during a mass And you know, since then, 313 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 5: you know, as the reports have gone on, we now 314 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 5: know that you know, some twenty children were injured. We 315 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 5: know for sure, at least the last that I saw, 316 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 5: three individuals were dead, two children, and also the shooter 317 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 5: from a self inflicted gunshot wound, but there are some 318 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 5: eleven to twelve children that have been going through various 319 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 5: procedures at two different medical facilities in Minneapolis. Its just, 320 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 5: you know, it's one of those situations where you're in 321 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 5: the middle of reporting this stuff and it takes a 322 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: little bit of time because you're in the think of 323 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: it to really, you know, allow the gravity of what's 324 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 5: transpiring to hit you. And that's kind of where I 325 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 5: am right now, moving off of the radio broadcasting aspect 326 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 5: of it, and now really come into grips with just 327 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 5: how horrific this this event event is. It's just an 328 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 5: unbelievable tragedy. 329 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 6: Talking to John Justice, Minneapolis radio host on Twin Cities 330 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 6: News Talk, we had had the number at seven in 331 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 6: terms of those in local hospitals. 332 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: That number has gone up. 333 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 6: Was there anything from your chief Ohio there regarding security 334 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 6: at this church. 335 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Did anybody have anything to say? 336 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 6: Is there any knowledge about whether or not is this 337 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 6: a campus that has gates? 338 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: Was this a campus that. 339 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 6: Had any level of security on it, or was it 340 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 6: just a church in a neighborhood that was particularly sought after. 341 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 5: My understanding is the latter that just this was an 342 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 5: Annunciation Catholic Church combination school, and it was what you 343 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 5: would typically find of a Catholic school and church. My 344 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 5: understanding is that it was wide open, and from what 345 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 5: we know of the detail so far, this shooter certainly 346 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 5: took advantage of that, starting his attack outside, shooting through 347 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 5: the glass stained windows of the chapel of the church 348 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 5: or the map, that's what was taking place before. Again, 349 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 5: my understanding this is all fluid. Before entering the back 350 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 5: of the church and continuing his attack, he had three 351 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 5: different weapons on him at the time, and from all 352 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 5: the reporting that we've seen, he was unhindered in taking place. 353 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, I just found out that 354 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 5: I live about twenty minutes about nineteen miles north of Minneapolis, 355 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 5: but I kind of in the suburbs of an area 356 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 5: called Blaine. I just found out as I got home 357 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 5: that we have a young couple across the street that 358 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 5: we're friends with. We you know, spend time with them, 359 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 5: We go walking with their dogs. The young wife, she 360 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 5: worked at this church and school, left Minneapolis a few 361 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 5: years ago because of the increase in crime, and her 362 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: mother still works at this at this location. So I mean, 363 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 5: talk about hitting close to home. But my understanding to 364 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 5: your initial question there, Tony was Yeah, it appears from 365 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 5: from what I know that this was this this was 366 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 5: a vulnerable location that didn't have any security. 367 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 6: We had already heard from the mayor, Jacob Frey, who 368 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 6: said prayer doesn't work right, these kids were praying. 369 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: You had your your Senator Amy. 370 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 6: Klobuchar going on CNN saying exactly the same thing. And 371 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 6: I will get to that at another time with you, 372 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 6: uh for for commentary and how min A sotain see that? 373 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 6: But you have data on who this suspect is. As 374 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 6: I said, I have sources I know, I can trust 375 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 6: people we both know together. We've been in conferences together, 376 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 6: and we've spoken to who have been sharing this information. 377 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 7: Uh. 378 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 6: John Justice, radio host from Minneapolis there heard every morning 379 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 6: on Twin Cities news Talk. 380 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about the alleged suspect. 381 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: So let's collin with without the news. She comes on 382 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 5: my she's actually all my show this morning and joined 383 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 5: me when I continued the live broadcast with the reporting. 384 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 5: She does fantastic quark. So I trust sharing this. But 385 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 5: multiple sources are confirming that this Robin Westman is the 386 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 5: gunman in the mass shooting at the Annunciation Catholic School. 387 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 5: It appears that Robert has has has changed his name 388 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 5: to Robin. His mom was the teacher at the school itself, 389 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 5: and he's posted what is being shared wildly online which 390 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 5: is impliquately taken down, but there is a manifesto and 391 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: a video where he lays out his intention with great 392 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: specificity online for everybody to see. He targeted the school 393 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 5: specifically has anti Christian statements based off of the statements 394 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 5: that he made. Assuming this alleged individual is indeed the shooter. 395 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 5: And I'll tell you, Tony, when I go on the 396 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 5: air on my show tomorrow, I'm gonna have a lot 397 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 5: to say because there has been a lot of anti 398 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 5: Christian senate here in Minneapolis, in Minnesota specifically with a 399 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 5: lot of pundits that have been attempting to use Vance Velter, 400 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 5: who of course was the shooter in the attempted assassination 401 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 5: and assassination of the lawmakers here back in June. They 402 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 5: have been really writing many anti Christian articles or the 403 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 5: course of the past two weeks trying to you know, 404 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 5: if you have your anti Semitism, we know about that, 405 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 5: but there is a vein of an anti Christian mentality 406 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 5: that's been professionally faller in Minneapolis. 407 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: For to you, it is not a vein. 408 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 6: It is absolutely something that has mainstreamed and it has 409 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 6: existed for four years. Talking to John Justice, radio host 410 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 6: out of Minneapolis, people that we know, radio host Rob 411 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 6: o'donald out of Pennsylvania who spends his time in New 412 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 6: York law enforcement as a detective. There was not only 413 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 6: showing have we seen other people posting this manifesto which 414 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 6: is allegedly written in a small red spiral notebook, but 415 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 6: photos of the magazines utilized because there was a rifle, 416 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 6: there was a shotgun, There was a pistol with notes 417 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 6: written on the magazines, allegedly one saying killed Donald Trump, 418 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 6: one saying ha ha things like that, and possibly a 419 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 6: map of or a drawing of a rendering. 420 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: Of the church, the pews, et cetera. 421 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: Have you seen this? 422 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 6: Has anybody in Minneapolis law enforcement or others have been 423 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 6: able to confirm this? 424 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 5: It is this, this manifesto. I'm actually looking at it 425 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 5: right now as we speak online. That was the video 426 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: as rolling as we were as we were talking. When 427 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 5: I pulled this up from the posting from Liz Collin. Yes, 428 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 5: this manifesto is absolutely attached to this Robin Westman. And 429 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 5: according to Liz Collins sources, and I spoke to her 430 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 5: just before I talk to you because I wanted to 431 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 5: make sure as well, just like you, that you know, 432 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 5: we're talking about information that's credible. You know, she has 433 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 5: had multiple sources inside of law enforcement. Her husband, Bob Carol, 434 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 5: used to be a president of the police, the Minneapolis 435 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 5: Police Officers Union in Minneapolis. So, yes, this has been 436 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 5: attached to this particular individual, and it comes on the 437 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 5: heels of the commentary from Governor Tim Walls. You know, 438 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 5: earlier this week. I don't know if you saw that 439 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 5: taking place at this DNC convention in Minneapolis that is 440 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: still ongoing this week. The level of rhetoric that's out 441 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: there is stunning, especially in the wake of what we're 442 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 5: now what we're now seeing with this potential shooter in 443 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 5: this strategy. 444 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 6: So the DNC, which has happened their summer conference there, 445 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 6: they've been adding rules to their platform. They did end 446 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 6: the conference early because of this shooting. But as you 447 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 6: give us the information about this alleged shooter, this is 448 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 6: a conversation of a man who thought and wanted to 449 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 6: describe himself as a woman, going back to twenty twenty 450 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 6: allegations that that's when a name change tried to happen. Here, 451 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 6: you have your Senator Amy Klobachar, You've got your mayor, 452 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 6: You've got others on the political left who want to 453 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 6: immediately talk about guns, only talk about guns. And I'm 454 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 6: not going to argue that a gun wasn't used here 455 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 6: to do something horrific, but rather, will there be in 456 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 6: Minnesota a conversation about the so called trans community, mental 457 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 6: health and what's happening, because this isn't the first instance. 458 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 5: No, I listen, I certainly will be having that conversation. 459 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 5: I do not have much faith in the rest of 460 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 5: the medium here in Minneapolis, here in Minnesota to have 461 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 5: that conversation beyond those you know, those outlets like myself. 462 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 5: But no, this is going to be ignored and it 463 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 5: shouldn't be. When you have Governor Tim Walls earlier this week, 464 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 5: you know, using dehumanizing language. I'm going to go there 465 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 5: on President Donald Trump when he says that same sitting 466 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 5: in the White House, when he continues to call Republicans fascists, 467 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 5: and this is an individual who in the wake of 468 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: the shooting of Melissa Hortman, the lawmaker back in June, 469 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 5: who he was friends with when he took to the 470 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 5: to the podium in the wake of that of that 471 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 5: shooting during that press conference, and Governor Tim Walls said 472 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 5: we need to do better. He says, we need to 473 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 5: tone down the rhetoric, we need to act on our 474 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 5: better graces. He used Melissa Hortman as the example that 475 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 5: we should all emulate. She was at good person. I'm 476 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 5: not saying that at all, but every single time Governor 477 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: Tim Walds has had the opportunity, he's shown the exact opposite, 478 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 5: you know, in the level of rhetoric that he spews 479 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 5: whenever he gets behind a microphone, and that is certainly 480 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 5: now even more egregious in the wake of this horrific, uh, 481 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 5: this zerific event taking place. But no, I don't I 482 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 5: don't expect a deep conversation over the background of this individual. 483 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, I expected the media here 484 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 5: in Minneapolis and Minnesota is going to do its best 485 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 5: to bury this aspect of this alleged shooter as quickly 486 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 5: as they can. 487 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 6: John Justice from Twin Cities News Talk in Minneapolis I 488 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 6: appreciate you taking the time to be with us much 489 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 6: more to get to you guys. 490 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: Keep it right here. I'm Tony Kats. This is Tony 491 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: Kats today. 492 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 7: A break and trust between police and community, especially with 493 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 7: new federal partners in our community. We know having masked 494 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 7: ice agents in the community has not worked. In national 495 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 7: guards from other states has not been an efficient use 496 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 7: of those resources. What still needed in the city. We're 497 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 7: going to continue to need more police. We continue to 498 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 7: need more prosecutors, more judges, more effective prevention programs, and. 499 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: So the federalizing isn't working. But you need more police. 500 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: That's the mayor of DC, Muriel Bowser. 501 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 6: I'm not quite sure how you make that argument, Tony Katz. 502 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 6: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you, and I'll 503 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 6: get into more of that on the show about what 504 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 6: is and isn't effective. But why the political left, why 505 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 6: they continue to be opposed to the idea of safety 506 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 6: and security every single time. They're on the wrong side 507 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 6: of everything. But really quick, it will be for many people, 508 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 6: and certainly we're gonna get more information. I will still 509 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 6: wait for more information to come out. I have long 510 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 6: known John Justice. He is a good good guy, and 511 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 6: I trust that what he brought to the table here 512 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 6: was the very best reporting that he had sourced reporting. 513 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 6: I will continue to do that. I probably won't get 514 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 6: into it for the rest of the show, and I'll 515 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 6: come back to it tomorrow. But people are going to 516 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 6: say that you can't talk about this if, indeed, as 517 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 6: we see it from all this information, that this shooter 518 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 6: was transgender, and you can't say that about this group 519 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 6: of people. 520 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: You can't. Yes, we can. And as we get all. 521 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 6: The information together, we now if everything does play out 522 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 6: as we believe it to be right now, because these 523 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 6: things do change, you know, one's a data points us 524 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 6: a connection, three is a yeah, others will be afraid 525 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 6: to have this conversation in very direct tones. 526 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: We will not be those people. We can't be those people. 527 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 1: We've got a problem. 528 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 6: And the progressive wants to say the problem is guns, 529 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 6: and I put forth to you that is not the problem. 530 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 6: As a gun owner, I am not the problem. Find 531 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 6: everything at Tony kots dot com radio show so much 532 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 6: more to get to guys. Glad you're here. 533 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats Today.