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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show. Hello, my

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Speaker 1: name is Nigel. Ethan Hatcher is in for Jason Hammer.

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Speaker 1: Without further ado, Ladies and Gentleman, legal stuff.

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Speaker 2: Crime punishment, judges, legal stuff.

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Speaker 1: Brownsburg School Corporation agreeing to pay over half a million

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Speaker 1: dollars to this former music teacher who resigned after refusing

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Speaker 1: to call transgender students by their preferred names and pronouns.

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Speaker 1: The district agreed to pay six hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 3: Thousand dollars and Ethan.

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Speaker 1: Retrain senior staff there at the Bradsburg School Corporation on

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Speaker 1: religious discrimination. First of all, I'm going to go out

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Speaker 1: on Lemon's say, I kind of think this is hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I love it. No, I'm not calling him her and

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Speaker 1: her a hymn, all right, I'm not doing it. And

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Speaker 1: they gave him six like, despite favorable rulings one after

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Speaker 1: the other to the Brownsburg School Corporation, they finally just

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Speaker 1: said we're settling this for six hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Well, because the Supreme Court ultimately ruled against indirectly the

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Speaker 2: Brownsburg School Corporation because they handled a similar case and

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Speaker 2: ruled in favor of the person asserting their religious freedoms.

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Speaker 2: I think, on the one hand, yeah, it's hysterical that

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Speaker 2: the school corporation is getting smacked down. On the other hand,

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Speaker 2: it's not funny at all because you and me are

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Speaker 2: ultimately or the taxpayer somehow are ultimately paying for this.

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Speaker 2: I think it should come straight out administration. If you're

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Speaker 2: behind the administration that started pushing for all this woke bullpucky,

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Speaker 2: then it should come out of your pay to have

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Speaker 2: to settle this lawsuit because you wanted to get cute

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Speaker 2: by half and push all this woke crap infringing on

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Speaker 2: religious freedoms and insisting that it was somehow discriminatory to

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Speaker 2: refer to students by their given name, not even their

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Speaker 2: first name, by their surname.

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Speaker 1: That's not that's not discrimination. Here's the bigger question. Here

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Speaker 1: is something I want everybody to answer. You can do

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Speaker 1: it on the chat. We're live on YouTube. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Hammer always likes to pump up our YouTube numbers. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to a hundred.

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Speaker 3: Likes, all right. So I don't know what we're at.

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Speaker 3: I have I have no idea where right me.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm gonna refresh this yere. We are all right,

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Speaker 1: we need a hundred. We're halfway there.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: The question I want to pose is, yeah, now, I

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Speaker 1: don't want any of that stuff in schools. I don't

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Speaker 1: want any of the pronouns or any of that, you know.

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Speaker 1: But in regular life, if you have an acquaintance or

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Speaker 1: a friend that has a kid that is having confusion,

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Speaker 1: gender dysphoria is a real thing.

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Speaker 3: It's rare.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to capitulate to like in a social setting. Rather,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about schools. I'm not talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: woke policies. I'm talking about being a just a friend

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Speaker 1: to some other friends and referring to their kids as

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Speaker 1: a he him when they are a she her? Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Do you know what I'm saying? Like?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be a I would say if

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Speaker 1: I r if, I don't know that this would ever

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Speaker 1: happen to me because it's so rare ethan.

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Speaker 3: But if I had somebody and said, hey, this is my.

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Speaker 1: Daughter Jenny, but it was really their son Dave, and

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Speaker 1: they were, you know, eleven years old or ten years old,

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Speaker 1: would I call them Jenny or Dave?

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Speaker 3: Would I say?

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Speaker 1: And I want to believe that I wouldn't be a

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Speaker 1: jerk about it and call them by what they preferred

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Speaker 1: in a social setting. Does that make sense to you?

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Speaker 2: That makes sense to me. If you are asking nicely

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Speaker 2: and asking me to be polite, and you are not

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Speaker 2: forcing me to comply or attempting to guilt trip me

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Speaker 2: in any way compelled speech, then I may choose to

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Speaker 2: behave in a polite manner. Now I would also likely

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Speaker 2: talk to my friend with sincerity about not coddling mental illness,

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Speaker 2: you know the the risks that are associated with that,

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Speaker 2: and we would probably be having a long discussion along

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Speaker 2: those lines. But if you are asking me nicely to

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Speaker 2: be polite and refer to you as a name that

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Speaker 2: you wish to be identified as, then I would at

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Speaker 2: least consider reciprocating in kind. But if you are compelling

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Speaker 2: my speech, all all games are off. This is already

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Speaker 2: a tall ask, Nigel, because I have a problem. It's

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Speaker 2: it's I have a problem with ki as it is.

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Speaker 2: So if you're you're asking me to also accommodate their

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Speaker 2: mental illness on top of that, man, that's a that's

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Speaker 2: a tall, tall lead.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to lean in to that illness if

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Speaker 1: you're the parents, but if you're just somebody that's like

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Speaker 1: and then somebody inevitably is going to say, well, what

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Speaker 1: if their kid prefers to be identified as a cat?

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Speaker 3: Would you me out at them? Where's the line? I

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Speaker 3: think there's a distinct difference, though. I think there's a difference.

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Speaker 2: I mean, have you you've surely seen some of these

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Speaker 2: kids running around with like the foxtail the yeah, oh.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean that was the Democrats answer on the

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Speaker 1: State of the Union address was furries on stage?

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Speaker 3: Right? Remember that was it? Really? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like at the same time Donald Trummers said they're speaking

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Speaker 1: one of the there was like frogs on stage and

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Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 2: I understand or something different than the furries though the

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Speaker 2: frog some other leftist symbol. But yeah, whatever, Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: it's all insane.

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Speaker 1: That's our take six hundred and fifty thousand dollars to

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Speaker 1: the guy that resigned in Brownsburg usure.

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Speaker 3: Last name Cluge, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, So he resigned and then he tried

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Speaker 1: to rescind his resignation. It was a whole big drama thing.

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Speaker 1: But all you need to know is that taxpayers made

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Speaker 1: this guy six hundred and fifty thousand dollars and I

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Speaker 1: say he probably damn well deserved it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably he won the legal lottery legal stuff.

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Speaker 1: You sent me this clip of artist Billy Eilish. I

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Speaker 1: forgot to look up. Can you look up her?

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Speaker 4: Kurt?

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Speaker 1: Look up how much Billie Eilish is worth? Like her

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Speaker 1: net worth? I know, I mean, it's it's on the internet.

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Speaker 3: But she was sixty million, isn't she? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's look it up. And the reason I'm asking

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Speaker 1: is this clip he sent me. I was like, what

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Speaker 1: is she talking about? She's accepting some of fifty a million.

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Speaker 3: I was close fifty to sixty million. BILLI islands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was the one spouting off at some

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Speaker 1: awards show at the Grammys maybe about stolen land.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's illegal on stolen land?

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Speaker 3: Is that what it was?

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Speaker 1: She's on some tribal ground, on some tri Yes, she

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Speaker 1: hasn't learned her lesson just to keep her mouth shut

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Speaker 1: about stuff she doesn't know about. This is her accepting

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Speaker 1: get award recently and talking about, for some reason being

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Speaker 1: a billionaire.

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Speaker 3: Because there's a bunch of billionaires in the room.

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Speaker 4: Love you all, but there's a few people in here

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Speaker 4: that have a lot more money than me. And uh,

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Speaker 4: if you're a billionaire, why are you a billionaire?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 4: No hate, but yeah, give your money away. Shorty's love

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Speaker 4: you guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: So she's doing the Bernie Sanders thing when Bernie Sanders,

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Speaker 2: after he became a millionaire, stopped calling out the millionionaires

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Speaker 2: and billionaires, and.

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Speaker 3: Then it just became the billionaires that are really a problem.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the millionaires aren't the problem.

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Speaker 2: Billionaires not a problem anymore now that I'm only saying

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Speaker 2: those a millionaires, it's only the billionaires that are a problem.

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Speaker 2: What Billie Eilish look a gorgeous woman, but all the

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Speaker 2: brain matter has clearly drained.

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Speaker 1: Cares There's there's a million gorgeous women. Who cares if

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Speaker 1: what she looks like, she's an idiot, I mean, a

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Speaker 1: raving lunatic. Give away your money.

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Speaker 3: Why why are there even billionaires? Am I reading that?

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Speaker 3: Look like?

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Speaker 1: Why are there billionaires? Because there's damn smart, talented people

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Speaker 1: that know how to make money in this country, I think,

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Speaker 1: and make a lot of money for other people in

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Speaker 1: this country, and employ a lot of people in this country.

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Speaker 2: I think Amazon provides much more good in this world

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Speaker 2: than Billie Eilish does.

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Speaker 1: And she has no idea what the billionaires in the

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Speaker 1: room do on a charitable.

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Speaker 3: Tip, you know what I mean? She has no clue.

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Speaker 1: What billionaires that specifically she was talking to in that

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Speaker 1: room do for charity. Okay, you don't know what somebody else,

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Speaker 1: no matter how rich somebody is, you don't know what

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Speaker 1: they're doing privately to give.

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Speaker 3: Oh the guy's so rich, how could you spend so.

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Speaker 1: Much money on a you know, three hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: tesla when they're starving children. Well you might not know it,

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Speaker 1: but you know people give money to charity too, you know.

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Speaker 1: Fair point just saying and probably more than a billion,

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Speaker 1: like it's be worth sixty million dollars and saying being

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Speaker 1: worth sixty million dollars, looking at people in the eye

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Speaker 1: and saying sixty million dollars. It's say, uh, you know

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Speaker 1: you got more money than I do. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of money, but you have more money

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Speaker 1: than I do, and you should give it away. You

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Speaker 1: do with your money what you want.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: I would like to think if I had that much money,

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Speaker 1: I'd be a good steward of said money.

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Speaker 3: You want to give all your money way. You first

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Speaker 3: be the hammer in Nigel Show